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In hats and outerwear: the preparation of future calculations of the Neptune DBK was shown in Ukraine

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The press service of the Naval Forces of Ukraine reports on the training of personnel who will operate the coastal missile systems "Neptune". The problem is that at the moment, even the Ukrainian Navy does not really know how many of these DBKs and when exactly they will enter the troops. Therefore, the training of military personnel is carried out "according to rough estimates."


Reportedly, future operators of the Neptune DBK are being trained to work with an automated situational awareness system. It, as noted, will allow coastal artillery officers to make decisions in a timely manner, receiving data on targets in a dynamic battle environment.

From the press service:

This significantly increases the effectiveness of the use of the complex.

Captain 1st Rank Vladimir Zakharchenko said that much attention is paid to "the possibilities of interaction with similar NATO systems." According to him, at the moment, the trained servicemen are tasked with mastering the skills of ensuring interaction between heterogeneous sources of information about the operational situation.

Frames with the preparation of calculations were shown in the photo:



It is stated that the system was "developed jointly with NATO specialists." One gets the impression that now in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, any direction of activity must be somehow linked to NATO, otherwise the implementation of the ambitious program for the transition to NATO standards will be called into question. In such a situation, it comes to curiosities, when even during the delivery of modernized tanks The T-72 is said to be "following NATO standards."



In the photo you can see the preparation of future calculations of the Neptune DBK. The press service of the Navy decided to retouch the images on the monitors, apparently believing that it contains "secret information".

Comments of Ukrainian users to the publication of the Ukrainian Navy:

Why are they wearing hats and outerwear?

If there is no warmer place, then put at least a heater. Or are such standards in NATO?
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The Ukrainian Navy
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 26 February 2021 16: 42
    +10
    Indeed, they are dressed as if the room temperature is below zero. Apparently there is such a NATO standard regarding getting used to frost or mowing under penguins.
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 26 February 2021 16: 46
      +19
      More fun that the preparation is "by rough estimate" belay I immediately remembered the anecdote:
      Petka and Vasily Ivanovich swim across the river, and after them the whites shoot.
      Petka says:
      - Vasily Ivanovich, throw your suitcase, we will be lost!
      - I can't, Petka, there is a plan to capture Paris!
      They float on. Petka says again:
      - Vasily Ivanovich, throw your suitcase, we will be lost!
      - I can't, Petka, there is a plan to capture Paris!
      Finally they crossed the river, and Chapaev opens a suitcase full of potatoes. He takes one in his hand and says:
      - For an EXAMPLE, this is the Eiffel Tower ... laughing
      1. hirurg
        hirurg 26 February 2021 16: 54
        +8
        The problem is that at the moment, even the Ukrainian Navy does not really know how many of these DBKs and when exactly they will enter the troops. Therefore, the training of military personnel is underway "By rough estimates".
        It was because of this preparation that they shot down passenger planes.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 26 February 2021 17: 07
          +6
          Quote: hirurg
          It was because of this preparation that they shot down passenger planes.

          Airlines friendly with their heads have not been flying through Ukraine for a long time. No.
      2. Alien From
        Alien From 26 February 2021 16: 55
        +1
        Dragging the wounded Vasil Ivanych Petka, Vasil Ivanych Petke: give it up, you can't drag it .... Petka threw it ... but damn it, not me, but a rifle)
      3. Installer
        Installer 26 February 2021 17: 58
        +2
        Petka with Vasily Ivanovich are flying in an airplane. “Petka devices? Eight. What is eight? And what about the instruments? "
      4. frruc
        frruc 26 February 2021 18: 20
        +3
        ... as noted, will allow coastal artillery officers to make decisions in a timely manner, receiving data on targets in a dynamic battle environment ...

        How the decision was made "in a dynamic battle environment" on the destruction of the scheduled airliner SBI1812 Tel-Aviv-Novosibirsk over the Black Sea in 2001. everyone already knows.
        "Knock him down on x ..!" - how the careless APU shot a passenger Tu-154 ...
        The disaster over the Black Sea, which was forgotten due to the prescription of years, which resulted in the death of 78 from the Tel Aviv-Novosibirsk flight, has not yet found its logical conclusion. Having admitted her guilt, Ukraine did not pay compensation to the Russian airline Siberia in the amount of 15 million dollars, limiting itself to paying 200 000 dollars for each Israeli and Russian killed. Knock-knocked down, but we will not answer in full - this is in the style of the current policy of Kiev.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 26 February 2021 16: 46
      +3
      The door is wide open. That would not suffocate from fumes.
    3. figwam
      figwam 26 February 2021 16: 49
      +1
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Indeed, they are dressed as if the room temperature is below zero.

      Hazu is dumb ...
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 26 February 2021 17: 01
        0
        They thought they needed to breathe gas ...
    4. Invoce
      Invoce 26 February 2021 16: 50
      +4
      The problem of the incompatibility of the mentality of the Ukrpiteks with the Slavs is that the former want to appear as someone (members of a NATO body, "Europeans", successful businessmen and an influential country). And you just need to BE someone!
      And not to be sold for handouts, so that they would be hired as a junior assistant of a gatekeeper or a janitor in a "democratic" country, with the issuance of a "pindjak" with shiny buttons like a general!
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 26 February 2021 18: 43
        0
        Quote: Invoce
        And not be sold for handouts, to be hired as a junior assistant gatekeeper or janitor in a "democratic" country, with the issuance of a "pindjak" with shiny buttons like a general!
        They cannot not be sold, for this is their essence, their meaning, their being. yes
      2. venik
        venik 26 February 2021 21: 21
        -1
        Quote: Invoce
        want to appear as someone (members of a NATO body, "Europeans", successful businessmen and an influential country). And you just need to BE someone!

        ========
        good
        "To seem or to be?" - that's the question,
        Which time puts a person.
        To be considered someone or to be someone?
        To be brave or to pretend to be brave?
        You sacrificed, created, knew how to love
        Or he only spoke skillfully about it,
        Shy to admit to myself
        What are you striving for: be or sound? ..
        ......
        Easily sound... Very hard be...

        ("Time Machine")
        drinks
        1. seregin-s1
          seregin-s1 27 February 2021 08: 58
          0
          And I remember how I jumped from a 10-meter tower for the first time in school. The platoon was built back to back of the head and led through the tower. I wonder if I was brave or it seemed to me?
          1. venik
            venik 27 February 2021 09: 43
            -1
            Quote: seregin-s1
            And I remember how I jumped from a 10-meter tower for the first time in school. The platoon was built back to back of the head and led through the tower. I wonder if I was brave or it seemed to me?

            ========
            What's that! When we were forced to jump with a parachute (and what the hell did we need it for? request Thank God with two jumps from the "maize" business and ended), so I, for the first time with a fright, tried to "run" into the hatch to jump! Well - the one who released it in time managed to substitute the footboard and push it in the back (otherwise the head could be demolished with the stabilizer!) .... So it flew out the hatch (or into the door?) - "upside down" .... laughing At first I could not understand: how is it that I have a "maize" underfoot turned out ... But then, when the parachute opened ... fellow Kaif !!!
      3. kulinar
        kulinar 26 February 2021 22: 33
        0
        Quote: Invoce
        The problem of the incompatibility of the mentality of the Ukrpiteks with the Slavs is that the former want to appear as someone (members of a NATO body, "Europeans", successful businessmen and an influential country). And you just need to BE someone!
        And not to be sold for handouts, so that they would be hired as a junior assistant of a gatekeeper or a janitor in a "democratic" country, with the issuance of a "pindjak" with shiny buttons like a general!

        Come on...
        Do you never know Russomovskys sip in foreign countries?
        1. Invoce
          Invoce 1 March 2021 08: 16
          0
          Come on...
          Do you never know Russomovskys sip in foreign countries?

          The meaning of the word is not entirely clear "Russomovsky".
          The mentality of the Russian person is different from the mentality of the Anglophile or the Anglo-Saxon (I don’t take other mentality, because there are many, like nationalities smile) by the fact that a Russian person is determined by spirit, attitude ... The son or representative of the African people Hannibal, the arap of Peter the Great was Russian in spirit, and his descendants were Russian ..., Bagration, Barclay de Tolly, Kruzenshtern Ivan Fedorovich is huge the number of people of the Russian soul were not of Slavic blood ... and on the contrary ... I will not enumerate them, there are also quite a few of them ...
          Those who are trying to find happiness abroad - a flag with the Star of David in their hands ... Someone will settle down, someone will sink to the bottom. If it was not in demand in its own country, then no one needs it there either ... But a mass admiration for the "advanced Western" or for the "Western democratic world" is not typical for a Russian person ...
      4. ermak124.0
        ermak124.0 28 February 2021 07: 35
        0
        Yes Yes! Better to be than to seem ...
    5. credo
      credo 26 February 2021 16: 55
      +8
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Indeed, they are dressed as if the room temperature is below zero. Apparently there is such a NATO standard regarding getting used to frost or mowing under penguins.

      You were given their uniforms in the process of study.
      Maybe this is training with going into the field, that's why such an outfit.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 26 February 2021 17: 17
        0
        Quote: credo
        Maybe this is training with going into the field, that's why such an outfit.

        That's right, you always need to wear a hat and a quilted jacket to the vitr.
        1. Gato
          Gato 26 February 2021 19: 53
          0
          you always need to wear a hat and a quilted jacket to the vitru

          Yes, for example, in Texas, everyone is doing this now.
      2. tarakan
        tarakan 26 February 2021 18: 40
        0
        Like a toilet on the street?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 26 February 2021 20: 21
          +2
          Quote: tarakan
          Like a toilet on the street?

          Like, they go to corn.
      3. kulinar
        kulinar 26 February 2021 22: 36
        -1
        Quote: credo
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Indeed, they are dressed as if the room temperature is below zero. Apparently there is such a NATO standard regarding getting used to frost or mowing under penguins.

        You were given their uniforms in the process of study.
        Maybe this is training with going into the field, that's why such an outfit.

        On this occasion, it is not worth joking. Any training of a potential enemy is a nuisance, to say the least.
        1. seregin-s1
          seregin-s1 27 February 2021 09: 14
          0
          Why not joke? If you are already arranging an army photo session, try to make the masks disposable, the wires lit, the tables painted. And why are six phones of dubious origin on one table?)
    6. Terenin
      Terenin 26 February 2021 17: 01
      +6
      It is stated that the system was "developed jointly with NATO specialists." One gets the impression that now in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, any area of ​​activity should be somehow linked to NATO.
      And maybe so. And they will not master NATO and will forget their own.
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    8. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 February 2021 17: 12
      -2
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Apparently there is such a NATO standard regarding getting used to frost or mowing under penguins.

      Rather, for African-Americans, those in Africa wear hats with a quilted jacket.
    9. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 26 February 2021 18: 26
      +2
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Indeed, they are dressed as if the room temperature is below zero.

      Maybe this is not a room at all, but a command vehicle adapted for a training class ...
      1. Holgerton
        Holgerton 26 February 2021 19: 32
        -1
        Don't stop news writers from gesheft.
        If the news is not yellow, then the money from advertising will be much less. And well, just 2 in 1, and the Ukrainians "get wet" and the target audience of "Uryakins" to please)
      2. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 26 February 2021 19: 58
        -1
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Maybe this is not a room at all, but a command vehicle adapted for a training class ...

        Are there such in Ukraine?
        On number 76, the region is the Yaroslavl region.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 26 February 2021 20: 14
          0
          Quote: Bad_gr
          Quote: Lara Croft
          Maybe this is not a room at all, but a command vehicle adapted for a training class ...

          Are there such in Ukraine?

          Well, in the SA there were such ...


          Do not imagine the former republics of the Union and their Armed Forces as ignoramuses, it does not paint you ...
          On number 76, the region is the Yaroslavl region.

          What can you say ... the bird "talker" is distinguished by intelligence and ingenuity ...
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 26 February 2021 20: 18
            -1
            Quote: Lara Croft
            Do not imagine the former republics of the Union and their Armed Forces as ignoramuses, it does not paint you ...
            And here the "undergrowth"? The republic's industry may simply not make such machines, and what is left as a legacy will not last forever.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 26 February 2021 20: 27
              +1
              Quote: Bad_gr
              And here the "undergrowth"? The industry of the republic may simply not make such machines,

              And I tell you again, do not write nonsense to the public, my grandmother and two grandfathers knew who to fight with and against whom, it is not the fault of the Ukrainians that their military-political leadership was sold to the Empireists ... this problem is solvable ...
              A modern command and staff transformer was created for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


              https://censor.net/photo_news/3165997/dlya_vsu_sozdali_sovremennyyi_komandnoshtabnyyi_transformer_fotoreportaj?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=408ae85da89a05d972378e4bf92b941da769c91c-1614360190-0-AdmOn2EpFLeIys8-MhUF7PJvSS4X3kPmH2JqUXjl0JSuadAQgblpHD2IRR_5PmRtwEzx55jvdh-GCDgTgYAg1kcGOIyvfjLUxV5l75fryf5TgjlkmE6kAkpUKaNJE3BbBvxazLLppxW2984sV21OcCp1RRRSg1JTDVZmjbAUkxkurqlRhTiDnJQLZPrCFmtQuRbL20Bp7XMGK0BMlNmU4RcYVY5QYlpfsYVfwJknklCUSHErnmB3ryNkvmbyHb5mbJCUaZKnKsbUrBMjirkbdoP1CF09yCgg1t3a5QP_zx7P9kXFHP09fiKlS5nIcxQoe29VmNj6St87V6CnGKjrkbVEtYacYT3PBevuGs4_Z8rK77DlmcWkkjc5QUxn8YDHl4PEt2SGVIeJU2GtAQBuZsPMy2Vc5f_88uD6w-MN5FraJuj8hKbomqwD2MiabjIcHdPrHO8Tjkfz4D3TPNPqGBF75_awHVSnG8kgKM9jWpFx
              1. gjkrjdybr50
                gjkrjdybr50 27 February 2021 20: 06
                -1
                Looks like they brought a hot dog stall. They cook on the sides, and sell them in the middle.
              2. GTYCBJYTH2021
                GTYCBJYTH2021 28 February 2021 10: 22
                0
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Quote: Bad_gr
                And here the "undergrowth"? The industry of the republic may simply not make such machines,

                And I tell you again, do not write nonsense to the public, my grandmother and two grandfathers knew who to fight with and against whom, it is not the fault of the Ukrainians that their military-political leadership was sold to the Empireists ... this problem is solvable ...
                A modern command and staff transformer was created for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


                https://censor.net/photo_news/3165997/dlya_vsu_sozdali_sovremennyyi_komandnoshtabnyyi_transformer_fotoreportaj?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=408ae85da89a05d972378e4bf92b941da769c91c-1614360190-0-AdmOn2EpFLeIys8-MhUF7PJvSS4X3kPmH2JqUXjl0JSuadAQgblpHD2IRR_5PmRtwEzx55jvdh-GCDgTgYAg1kcGOIyvfjLUxV5l75fryf5TgjlkmE6kAkpUKaNJE3BbBvxazLLppxW2984sV21OcCp1RRRSg1JTDVZmjbAUkxkurqlRhTiDnJQLZPrCFmtQuRbL20Bp7XMGK0BMlNmU4RcYVY5QYlpfsYVfwJknklCUSHErnmB3ryNkvmbyHb5mbJCUaZKnKsbUrBMjirkbdoP1CF09yCgg1t3a5QP_zx7P9kXFHP09fiKlS5nIcxQoe29VmNj6St87V6CnGKjrkbVEtYacYT3PBevuGs4_Z8rK77DlmcWkkjc5QUxn8YDHl4PEt2SGVIeJU2GtAQBuZsPMy2Vc5f_88uD6w-MN5FraJuj8hKbomqwD2MiabjIcHdPrHO8Tjkfz4D3TPNPqGBF75_awHVSnG8kgKM9jWpFx

                good good
  2. Dimy4
    Dimy4 26 February 2021 16: 43
    -3
    There was not enough money for a simple potbelly stove from a barrel.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 26 February 2021 17: 05
      +5
      The problem is that at the moment, even the Ukrainian Navy does not really know how many of these DBKs will go to the troops.

      So call the Russian General Staff and ask, "how many missiles are provided for the destruction of our DBKs?" This is the amount you get yes
  3. Insurgent
    Insurgent 26 February 2021 16: 43
    +3
    Muzzled? And get vaccinated, following the example of the leader of the Banderlog?




    Zelenskiy was injected with an Indian vaccine, and his health is still normal ..

    1. frruc
      frruc 26 February 2021 18: 28
      0
      Why do they need vaccinations.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 26 February 2021 16: 45
    +2
    Solitaire was laid out on laptops wassat , since "Nepotun" is not yet available, imitation of training is carried out in words, and the rest of the time they are cut to play on computers wassat
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 February 2021 17: 21
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      since "Nepotun" is not yet available, imitation of training is carried out in words, and the rest of the time they are cut to play on computers

      And I think who puts so many minuses here. And this turns out to be "imitation" for them.
      1. Azef
        Azef 26 February 2021 18: 20
        -4
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And I think who puts so many minuses here. And this turns out to be "imitation" for them.

        Fuck the damned in games ha ha ha
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 26 February 2021 18: 44
          0
          Quote: Azef
          Fuck the damned in games ha ha ha

          Yes, you need to thoroughly clean the stables.
          1. Azef
            Azef 26 February 2021 19: 06
            -1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Azef
            Fuck the damned in games ha ha ha

            Yes, you need to thoroughly clean the stables.

            Yes, and from the "stables" there was only a skeleton .. All plundered
  5. Azef
    Azef 26 February 2021 16: 47
    0
    Naval Forces of Ukraine

    Sounds funny ! And clothes, to see gas for non-payment was cut off by Naftogaz ..
    Shameful in general, ashamed of them ..
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 February 2021 17: 22
      -1
      Quote: Azef
      Shameful in general, ashamed of them ..

      And why be ashamed of them if they have no shame.
      1. Azef
        Azef 26 February 2021 18: 19
        -4
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Azef
        Shameful in general, ashamed of them ..

        And why be ashamed of them if they have no shame.

        Yes, Vlad, there are relatives .. And I feel Russia will then have to rake all this manure, clean it out, disinfect it from parasites .. Is that so?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 26 February 2021 18: 44
          0
          Quote: Azef
          And I feel Russia will have to then rake all this manure, clean it out, disinfect it from parasites .. Is that so?

          Without a doubt.
  6. Crash
    Crash 26 February 2021 17: 12
    +5
    Strange photo. There is only one laptop for the crowd, but telephones (wired?) Are in front of everyone. Do they track targets on the phone?
    1. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 27 February 2021 09: 29
      0
      I understood! Wired telephones are to cut the wires, blame them on saboteurs and do not receive commands to launch. Well, as it was in Crimea ... But why don't I understand three of them.)
    2. gjkrjdybr50
      gjkrjdybr50 27 February 2021 20: 16
      0
      There are classes "... on working with an automated situational awareness system ...", the type of the TAI-43 system (who served, he understood), and a laptop for the commander. He learns to search for goals using Google maps and coordinate them with partners from NATO using soap (this is if Russia turns on Wi-Fi in Crimea).
  7. cniza
    cniza 26 February 2021 17: 15
    +4
    The problem is that at the moment, even the Ukrainian Navy does not really know how many of these DBKs and when exactly they will enter the troops.


    In the meantime, they bask in the classroom ...
    1. Clear
      Clear 26 February 2021 17: 49
      +5
      Quote: cniza
      The problem is that at the moment, even the Ukrainian Navy does not really know how many of these DBKs and when exactly they will enter the troops.


      In the meantime, they bask in the classroom ...

      And, with the heater, the guys will fall asleep lol .

      Hi, there love
      1. cniza
        cniza 26 February 2021 18: 00
        +2
        Good time! hi

        And if they freeze themselves while sitting ... lol or the lower mind will catch a cold, the commanders need to think ...
        1. Clear
          Clear 26 February 2021 18: 49
          +4
          Quote: cniza
          Good time! hi

          And if they freeze themselves while sitting ... lol or the lower mind will catch a cold, the commanders need to think ...

          If they don’t think, it’s already frostbitten yes
          1. cniza
            cniza 26 February 2021 19: 03
            +4
            And no one will regret them ...
  8. Dimide
    Dimide 26 February 2021 17: 21
    -2
    I read the comments, Petrosyania is straight, and no one pays attention to the fact that: - "The training of personnel who will operate the DBK Neptune has begun." Conclusion: - at the time of receiving the complexes, there will be a trained l / s.
    Laugh on, I love your hat
    1. Katanikotael
      Katanikotael 26 February 2021 17: 41
      0
      for teaching such a complex technique, you can find more comfortable conditions
      1. Dimide
        Dimide 26 February 2021 17: 48
        -5
        In what do you see the discomfort, in pea jackets? The reasons may be the sea.
        And so the room is bright, large, equipped
        1. Katanikotael
          Katanikotael 26 February 2021 18: 07
          +1
          there is only one reason - a disregard for the personnel. This is not a briefing of janitors before cleaning the area, but training in a technique where one mistake can lead to mass deaths.
          1. Dimide
            Dimide 26 February 2021 18: 17
            -1
            I agree with you, but on the other hand, we do not know the reason for being in the room in pea jackets, perhaps they went out to work on the acquired knowledge "in kind". And the frost was decent for Ukraine in February
            1. aleks neym_2
              aleks neym_2 27 February 2021 13: 47
              +1
              They gathered on Novaya Zemlya: to defend Nenka-Ukraine from the insidious foe ...
  9. Cowbra
    Cowbra 26 February 2021 17: 24
    0
    They disguised the pans on their heads
  10. zenion
    zenion 26 February 2021 17: 33
    +1
    It is not necessary to know the exact amount. If there is a shortage, they will be beaten off from the enemy. If there is a surplus, it will go to the market.
    1. Clear
      Clear 26 February 2021 17: 51
      +5
      Quote: zenion
      It is not necessary to know the exact amount. If there is a shortage, they will be beaten off from the enemy. If there is a surplus, it will go to the market.

      The second option (bazaar) is preferable yes
  11. Vyacheslav Borichevsky
    Vyacheslav Borichevsky 26 February 2021 18: 05
    +2
    How to make them ?! Kraz filed for bankruptcy !. The Kharkov enterprise that was supposed to assemble these missiles also defaulted on debt bonds, and filed for bankruptcy !. The motor sich, which is supposed to supply engines for the missiles, is completely inoperative due to the blocking of the counter. Stake in China, and production simply stopped !. And the budget for 2021 does not include money for neptunes! Pure stupid PR for a non-existent !.
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 26 February 2021 18: 58
      -2
      The chassis is from Tatra, the rockets are made by Artem. According to Motor Sich - from the company's website: - "Dear shareholders and employees of Motor Sich JSC
      Regarding the events that are taking place today around MOTOR SICH, we declare the following: the enterprise works stably, in accordance with the legislation of Ukraine, and there are no prerequisites for disruptions in the working rhythm of production. "
      Don't spread fakes
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 26 February 2021 20: 03
        0
        Quote: Dimid
        About the events that are taking place around MOTOR SICH today

        All is well, beautiful marquis, but why lie, then the Ministry of Justice said that it had offered the Chinese to settle the dispute peacefully, the Chinese were surprised at this information and said that this was not the case and all their attempts to resolve the issue in this way were rejected, so investors in a different way than initiating international investment arbitration to reimburse losses incurred as a result of Ukraine's violation of international legal obligations. " So the Chinese may have received another argument in their favor ...
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 26 February 2021 20: 26
          -4
          Go to the company's website in the classifieds section. I have no habit of using unverified information.
      2. Volder
        Volder 28 February 2021 18: 58
        0
        Quote: Dimid
        According to Motor Sich - from the company's website: "Dear shareholders and employees of MOTOR SICH JSC. Regarding the events that are taking place today around MOTOR SICH, we declare the following: the enterprise operates stably, in accordance with the legislation of Ukraine, and there are no prerequisites for failures in working rhythm of production. "
        Motor Sich is doing so-so. In 2019, the number of employees was 21,2 thousand people, and the net financial result was unprofitable. But in 2020, the net financial result turned out to be positive, but the number of employees decreased to 17,5 thousand. Optimization of personnel to achieve a temporary effect is only a postponement of the crisis. Chinese investors left, but new ones did not come. Plus the loss of the Russian and possibly the Chinese sales market. On December 5, 2020, Chinese investors notified the Ukrainian government of going to international arbitration (an attempt to recover $ 3,5 billion from Ukraine). We stock up on popcorn and watch further.
  12. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 26 February 2021 19: 20
    +2
    Apparently, they are sitting in a folding KUNG. And it's cold, so the solarium is now dear. The stoves work to maintain the temperature just above zero so that the phones do not freeze. Let them learn. The missiles will not appear anyway, but the IBD (imitation of violent activity) is in full swing.
  13. Popov I.P.
    Popov I.P. 27 February 2021 10: 40
    0
    Somehow I came across an interview with a foreign instructor who trained Ukrainian soldiers in a training center in Western Ukraine. The fact that training with squads and companies often had to be canceled in the morning due to the hungover or even drunken state of a significant part of the military collective, which does not allow military coordination of divisions, is still a trifle of life and the harsh reality of "the best army in Europe." But if a newly arrived foreign instructor, who does not know the Ukrainian realities and trainees' habits, accidentally undresses on a common hanger, then at best he will be left without the contents of his pockets, and at worst without outer clothing. What country is like an army. Maybe that's why they don't take off their outerwear - because they are stealing, but not a fact. But seriously, this wunderwaffe called "Neptune" (reincarnation of the Soviet X-35 rocket developed in the late 70s - early 80s of the last century) is not yet in combat form and it is not clear when it will be, there is no money ... But the Crimean bridge was already trembling in anticipation ...
  14. aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 27 February 2021 10: 56
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    I read your comments and was surprised: haven't you already seen the simplest truth - the guys are training in the most luxurious conditions of Novaya Zemlya to protect mattress mats from the threat of attack by some small and semi-literate Russia ...
  15. Gogi shapiro
    Gogi shapiro 27 February 2021 20: 27
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    they have not yet learned to walk according to the principle of "hay-straw" !!!!
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 February 2021 12: 35
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    Apparently, they have a hack there, since even the teacher rubs his hands.
  17. Volder
    Volder 28 February 2021 18: 13
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    Independent "Neptune" shot: "miracle zbroy" was left without wheels and missiles - "heart attack" of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine