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"Berlin hopes to find a compromise": Germany is considering four options for action on Nord Stream 2

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"Berlin hopes to find a compromise": Germany is considering four options for action on Nord Stream 2

The German government is exploring four options for the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline under construction in order to find a compromise with the United States. This is reported by the Handelsblatt edition.


According to the newspaper, several options are being considered in Berlin that will allow the completion of the gas pipeline. Among the proposed options is a scenario involving the use of some kind of "shutdown mechanism", i.e. cessation of gas supply in case of stopping the transit of gas by Russia through the territory of Ukraine. Under this option, Russia refuses to use the gas pipeline as "weapons"against Ukraine, and the US is allegedly refusing sanctions against Nord Stream 2."

The second option provides for freezing the construction of the gas pipeline during the negotiations between the United States and Germany. The State Department proposes to create a joint commission, which will include not only representatives of the United States and Germany, but also other European countries. The commission will have to study all the pros and cons of the construction and make its decision.

The third option provides for the provision of investment assistance to Ukraine in order to "soften" Washington's position on the gas pipeline. It provides for the infusion of investments into the energy sector of Ukraine, followed by closer cooperation.

The fourth option suggests continuing construction despite all countermeasures to the project. However, this option has many opponents who fear a deterioration in relations with the United States.

Meanwhile, German political scientist Alexander Rahr said that Ukraine, in alliance with Poland, is trying to provoke a conflict between the United States and Europe with Russia in order to stop the construction of the gas pipeline. He called it Kiev's "huge mistake."

According to him, Joe Biden's US is trying to negotiate with Europe, while Ukraine is acting directly, brazenly, like under Trump, trying to provoke scandals or conflicts, thereby interfering in European energy security policy.
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  1. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 26 February 2021 13: 56
    +13
    It freezes - so they will forget about any USA and Ukraine.
    It is significant that the Americans did not manage to heat their own TExas with LNG, what are the guarantees of LNG supplies to Europe ...
    And Ukraine - it's time to turn off ... Their GTS is worn out to the extreme. And such a shutdown will allow to end disputes about the existence of this state as anti-Russian, since there will be nothing else to take in it, since the transit will run out of dollars.
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 26 February 2021 14: 27
      -5
      Spring is in a couple of days, and the heat will come in two weeks, so that until the next cold weather they can calmly freeze construction.
      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 26 February 2021 14: 30
        +5
        With such unpredictable weather, summer may not be as warm as expected in the EU. hi
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 26 February 2021 15: 08
          +5
          Quote: mojohed2012
          With such unpredictable weather, the summer may not be so warm

          Not so warm is not scary, as very hot. Heat, like frost, are consumption peaks,. after 2018, power engineers probably drew conclusions from block stops due to the heat, but for Germany and others it is dangerous if the peak in demand coincides in time with a decrease in the output of wind farms, and this was ... Europe heat in 2018, Japan - 2019. The last example - California - 2020 - power outages, which were again accused of "green" energy ....
      2. credo
        credo 26 February 2021 15: 10
        +3
        Quote: Canecat
        Spring is in a couple of days, and the heat will come in two weeks, so that until the next cold weather they can calmly freeze construction.

        If Germany makes concessions to the United States, it will only aggravate its position, because in this case, not the United States, but Ukraine (at the direction of the United States) will regulate the valve in the direction of Germany and Western Europe, receiving payments from both Russia (for transit) and with the EU for maintaining the GTS in working order.

        It can be seen that the United States is holding Germany for a causal place, forcing the latter to spin as if in a frying pan in an attempt to please Uncle Sam.

        How imprudently the USSR transferred the coast of the Baltic Sea and the region of Vilna, respectively, to Poland and Lithuania. If there were now the Kaliningrad region from the Pskov region to the borders of Germany, we would not know the problems. It can be seen that strategic thinking was not held in high esteem in those years and was replaced by the concept of building a socialist camp. Descendants are now disentangling.
        1. mojohed2012
          mojohed2012 26 February 2021 15: 23
          +1
          They hold it tight because a large contingent of American troops is stationed in Germany.
        2. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 26 February 2021 19: 49
          0
          Russia is also trying to find a compromise with Europe, but it turns out badly. And with the United States, Russia will never have it because of the unacceptable American condition: to kneel down (the Europeans, by the way, want the same thing). I wonder how Germany and the United States will come to terms ... lol
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 26 February 2021 16: 25
        +1
        Quote: Canecat
        Spring is in a couple of days, and the heat will come in two weeks, so that until the next cold weather they can calmly freeze construction.

        They need gazul not only during the heating period. Germany refuses coal and nuclear power in the energy sector, and therefore the need for gas will only increase. The use of liquefied gas leads to an increase in the final cost of a unit of the product produced, and therefore makes this product uncompetitive. In the business of Germany, they are also not suckers, and therefore they will put pressure on the completion of the construction of the pipeline with the allocation of a guaranteed share of its gas market to mattresses. The question is, what market share will the Stars and Stripes request to be booked?
    2. Clear
      Clear 26 February 2021 17: 57
      +6
      "Berlin hopes to find a compromise": Germany is considering four options for action on Nord Stream 2

      In my opinion, Russia will be satisfied with any option.
      Even the cessation of construction. I think that
      ... it is necessary to ensure "the gradual completion of the gasification of Russia by 2024 and 2030. According to the instructions, it is necessary to bring the gasification rate to 83%. It is assumed that the remaining 17% of the country's territory will receive the necessary services using another type of energy."
  2. Tusv
    Tusv 26 February 2021 13: 57
    +8
    And they did not think to consider the fifth option. Pipe to the Kaliningrad Spit, where to build an LNG terminal and tupa at swap prices 10 cents lower than the American trade. Why is it expensive? And from the principle
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 26 February 2021 14: 47
      -5
      Quote: Tusv
      stupid at swap prices 10 cents below the US to trade. Why is it expensive? And from the principle

      buying gas in Europe is not about money ....
  3. Svarog
    Svarog 26 February 2021 14: 04
    +2
    Today I read that the Gulf Stream is getting slower .. which means that instead of the promised warming, it will get colder .. So the Germans need to be even more compromise, otherwise they will freeze.
    1. Destiny
      Destiny 26 February 2021 14: 16
      +11
      The Germans are well-known pragmatists, they will not wash, they will stretch the pipe to themselves, but there is no hope for "green" energy, in Texas they saw what happens when the "windmills" freeze, so no one will refuse gas.
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 26 February 2021 14: 49
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      Today I read that the gulf stream is getting slower ..

      read on the radio?
      Quote: Svarog
      which means that instead of the promised warming, it will get colder ..

      years 300 ... forgot to mention ...
      Quote: Svarog
      So the Germans need to be even more compromise, otherwise they will freeze.

      the FRG has a planning horizon of 5-10 years .... waiting for a change in GDP for another .... just like you, by the way!
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 26 February 2021 14: 55
        -7
        Quote: NEOZ
        the FRG has a planning horizon of 5-10 years .... waiting for a change in GDP for another .... just like you, by the way!

        I am waiting for a change in the political system, not GDP. Will GDP or Navalny or any other liberal..will be exactly the same, and maybe worse. The socialist must pass, only socialism will save Russia.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 26 February 2021 14: 58
          +2
          Quote: Svarog
          only socialism will save Russia.

          is it when a workaholic gets as much as a loafer?
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 26 February 2021 15: 03
            -6
            Quote: NEOZ
            Quote: Svarog
            only socialism will save Russia.

            is it when a workaholic gets as much as a loafer?

            No..not so, it's exactly like Platoshkin's program. You can familiarize yourself with the site "For a New Socialism". To each according to his work, from each according to his ability.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 26 February 2021 15: 37
              -1
              Quote: Svarog
              "For a new socialism"

              The salary of the president is no more than 10 times the average salary in the country, members of the Federal Assembly - no more than 4 times ...
              those. members of the federal assembly will not be able to buy a one-room apartment in Moscow ???
              any IPshnik from the market in Moscow will earn at the level of the president ???
              ps
              and so on most of the points of the program ...
              1. Pereira
                Pereira 26 February 2021 21: 25
                -1
                Yes Easy. The children of billionaires will sit in such conditions.
          2. olegactor
            olegactor 26 February 2021 15: 06
            +1
            эthen when a workaholic gets as much as a bum?

            this is when idlers are imprisoned for parasitism
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 26 February 2021 14: 58
          +3
          Where will he come from, socialist?
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 26 February 2021 15: 04
            -8
            Quote: Pereira
            Where will he come from, socialist?

            Yes there is already .. Platoshkin for example. And his program is excellent .. Grudinin for the premiere, Platoshkin for the presidency .. You can vice versa .. I do not mind. There are people, there is no unconditional support of the masses.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 26 February 2021 15: 07
              -5
              Judging by the way they drowned Grudinin, they are really afraid of him. Here somewhere I will agree.
              And Platoshkin, they say, got dirty about Pashinyan.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 26 February 2021 15: 10
                -5
                Quote: Pereira
                Judging by the way they drowned Grudinin, they are really afraid of him. Here somewhere I will agree.
                And Platoshkin, they say, got dirty about Pashinyan.

                Yes, dirtying a socialist is a favorite thing of the liberals ... It is not so much the personality (although this is important) that is important, but political convictions ...
            2. Sarboz
              Sarboz 27 February 2021 10: 53
              0
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: Pereira
              Where will he come from, socialist?

              Yes there is already .. Platoshkin for example. And his program is excellent ..

              They are afraid of Platoshkin. Even here they are afraid of him, our "partners" and their henchmen. We were minded with fear. But there are not so many of them.
        3. Volder
          Volder 28 February 2021 09: 25
          0
          Quote: Svarog
          The socialist must pass, only socialism will save Russia.
          There can be no socialism in a market economy, capitalist society. Platoshkin's socialism is an all too obvious utopia.
  4. Cowbra
    Cowbra 26 February 2021 14: 06
    +1
    The options are:
    1) Express full solidarity and full support.
    2) Send to.
    3) Send to.
    4) And we are the army.
    You can even all four at the same time
  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 26 February 2021 14: 08
    +2
    If the Siberian frost falls on Germany, then Germany will begin to freeze, and a letter will come from America (no gas, but you hold on). Probably Germany knows about this. There is something to fight for.
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    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 26 February 2021 14: 23
      +4
      And Aliyev said about the use of Iskander that it was nonsense and anecdote.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 26 February 2021 14: 29
      +4
      Try to ventilate the room after the paint, otherwise the glitches will be even stronger) you need to take care of your health)
      1. hydroy
        hydroy 26 February 2021 14: 36
        +4
        this is botyara)
    3. Pereira
      Pereira 26 February 2021 15: 02
      0
      Aliyev is a liar? Did I understand Emil correctly?
    4. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 26 February 2021 15: 29
      +1
      Oh, so I want to answer, but I already have two warnings.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 26 February 2021 16: 19
        +1
        I also have two and I understand what you are thinking.
        1. Alexander 3
          Alexander 3 26 February 2021 19: 11
          +1
          This will be our code, otherwise the administrator will code us.
    5. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 26 February 2021 18: 25
      +1
      Quote: Emil Mamedoff
      Such a pathetic attempt at refutation is a bunch in your pants, and in the brains of some stupid Patriots.) And your Iskander, the same as you yourself ..

      It is Azerbaijan who has been shitty. You had one smart military man who during the conflict said, "Turkey will help to return Karabakh, but we will lose our state." And yet, yes, your Azerbaijan appeared on the world map not thanks to Ankara, but thanks to Russia, so your enthusiastic farts about the Iskanders only say that you are an ungrateful people with a rudimentary memory and you do not deserve a fate other than becoming a Turkish colony ...
  7. ximkim
    ximkim 26 February 2021 14: 18
    -8
    It's funny .. Russia is trying to build a pipe through which it can be pressed ..
  8. askort154
    askort154 26 February 2021 14: 32
    +1
    The third option provides for the provision of investment assistance to Ukraine in order to "soften" Washington's position on the gas pipeline.

    They did not mention the fourth option - who will pay for the repair of the "40 year old pipe", but today it is already determined at 10-20 billion dl. What a sane investor would get into this swamp. Therefore, the only investment assistance to Ukraine in this case will be - do not interfere with her taking this pipe for scrap. They will do it themselves, quickly and with pleasure, under the slogan "Glory to Ukraine".
    1. ximkim
      ximkim 26 February 2021 18: 09
      -2
      For this there is Gazprom, and this is what will pay for the repairs.
  9. hydroy
    hydroy 26 February 2021 14: 35
    +1
    Germany is now like a dog, the owner asks me for a deny, even if Russian gas will warm us))))) Are the Germans not ashamed?
  10. hydroy
    hydroy 26 February 2021 14: 36
    +1
    Although in 1941-1945 the Germans and Japanese were so broken that now they are on their knees in front of the Yankees))))))))))))))))
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 26 February 2021 14: 42
    0
    "Berlin hopes to find a compromise": Germany is considering four options for action on Nord Stream 2

    There is a good saying, about a fish and where you want to sit ... nizya, otherwise it would be short and clear.
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 February 2021 14: 43
    -1
    Well, what compromises can there be with striped lackeys?
  13. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 26 February 2021 14: 46
    0
    The State Department proposes to create a joint commission, which will include not only representatives of the United States and Germany, but also other European countries.

    The State Department, directly without hints, with this proposal, confirms that all European countries are vassals of the United States. Where is this SASHA, and where is this Europe, and what has Sasha forgotten in Europe.
  14. Alien From
    Alien From 26 February 2021 14: 52
    0
    The Germans understand what frost is!
  15. xomaNN
    xomaNN 26 February 2021 15: 21
    -3
    Miller and Putin did not think of a lot of things in Sev. Stream-2. The calculation was for "German friends", and they were like ostriches with their heads in the sand crying
    For the future - LESSON! In any case, Western "partners" are better regarded as NON-friends.
  16. Gorillas
    Gorillas 26 February 2021 16: 01
    +2
    Where are the friends? why aren't they? China - I won't believe it, for the time being, ahhh ... Venezuela
  17. iouris
    iouris 26 February 2021 16: 50
    -1
    Ukraine no longer exists. No compromises are possible. If you want peace, fight. Alas and ah!
  18. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 27 February 2021 11: 44
    -1
    Rosneft decided to stop supplies to two Polish companies, but Poland, which so dreamed of achieving a strategic turning point in diversification and turning its back on Russia, was not happy about this fact. Warsaw was outraged by Moscow's decision to shut off the oil valve, as evidenced by its angry silence. This is the conclusion reached by specialized experts on the pages of Myl Polska. laughing good However, soon Warsaw had a new strategy, which implies "liberation from dependence" and, as a consequence, the loss of advantages. In 2006, the share of Russian Urals oil in raw materials supplied to Polish enterprises reached 95,5%. Ten years later, this figure dropped to 81,4%, and in 2019 it was only 66%. Russian oil has been replaced by a more expensive product from Saudi Arabia. A similar situation is observed in the gas market. Riyadh is a good ally of the best Polish partner, and therefore Warsaw did not have much choice. Meanwhile, in Moscow they have already found a replacement for Polish companies. This cooperation will bring certain benefits to the Russian Federation.
  19. musorg
    musorg 27 February 2021 12: 07
    0
    Berlin hopes, but Russia builds!
  20. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 February 2021 18: 43
    0
    Leave them SP-1 and Turetsky for the whole geyrope. Freeze the rest in that direction. Engage in close gasification of the Russian territory, gas processing in the direction of China. Let the gay Europeans consume LNG from the states, well, at very favorable prices. Well, slowly finish building the SP-2. They will sit on a starvation ration, howl and come running themselves. Sometimes you need to bring your partner to life, shrink a little yourself. We practiced this sometimes in the 90s, when some were insolent. They sold at purchase prices in some places. Nothing, they brought someone to consciousness. The main thing here is to have a stock.