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The US Air Force called the timing of the start of large-scale tests of a combat aircraft laser

The US Air Force called the timing of the start of large-scale tests of a combat aircraft laser

The first large-scale tests of the aircraft combat laser, intended for the 4th generation fighters of the US Air Force, will be carried out in 2024. Reported by C4ISRNET.

According to the publication, the research laboratory of the US Air Force will soon receive one of the key aircraft laser systems, two other developers should provide in July this year. Details of the tests are not provided.

Work within the framework of the Self-Protect High Energy Laser Demonstrator (SHiELD) program started after the US Air Force command considered the existing aircraft protection means insufficient and proposed to develop laser systems for the destruction of attacking aircraft in addition to the existing electronic warfare systems and heat traps. missiles.

American companies Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Boeing are involved in the development of the laser. Lockheed Martin is responsible for the development of the laser module, Northrop Grumman is creating the control system, and Boeing is the container in which the combat laser will be placed.

Earlier, the US Air Force reported that the laser installations developed under the SHiELD project should receive the F-15E, F-15C, F-15EX Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon of the US Air Force, as well as, possibly, the A-10C Thunderbolt II attack aircraft. Aircraft of the fifth generation F-22 and F-35 will not be equipped with this system, so as not to harm the Stealth system installed on them.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 25 February 2021 13: 56
    laser systems to destroy missiles attacking the plane.
    and not bluffing the Yankes?
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 25 February 2021 14: 16
      laughing Judging by the "minuses", they say no. Although ... What you cannot say, you cannot tell what to grab a piece of the budget pie.
    2. ximkim
      ximkim 25 February 2021 14: 26
      Most likely they are not bluffing.
      1. VO3A
        VO3A 25 February 2021 15: 18
        Will there be a source of electricity nearby on Boeing? Nobody canceled the laws of physics, gentlemen!
        It is necessary to study better at school, then there will be no such questions ...
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 25 February 2021 16: 08
          Drive from the aircraft engine shaft.
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 25 February 2021 17: 36
            Well, I just saw the light! Thank ! And what are the additional generators installed there?
            And the regular engine will not stall when the laser is "pumped" in the reusable mode?
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 25 February 2021 19: 08
              Will not. Power reserve is large smile
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 25 February 2021 19: 48
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Drive from the aircraft engine shaft.

            Alexey, I don't want to upset you, but the power take-off shaft will break from overload. wink
        2. eklmn
          eklmn 25 February 2021 16: 49
          If it is impossible in Russia, this does not mean that it is impossible at all.
          Airplane engines generate enough electricity to charge radar batteries, but there is no room for batteries in the aircraft themselves. That is why we created a laser pendant. It also contains the battery. To create a relatively small battery for a 150kW radar was a problem, but it was dealt with.
          Compare this with a 50kw Russian laser on a 5 axle trailer.
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 25 February 2021 17: 40
            You ask yourself crazy questions and answer yourself the same way !!! Will he shoot every 5 minutes? No need to voice nonsense! Teach physics ...
            1. eklmn
              eklmn 25 February 2021 18: 48
              No need to voice nonsense! Teach physics ...

              The charging speed of batteries does not depend on physics from textbooks, but depends on the physics of materials for capacitors. If Russian scientists have not created such, this does not mean that everyone is stupid ...
              1. VO3A
                VO3A 25 February 2021 21: 27
                You are still inadequate !!! What will you charge these capacitors on board the aircraft? Do you have any idea how this device works?
                You do not engage in profanity aloud ...
    3. credo
      credo 25 February 2021 14: 40
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      laser systems to destroy missiles attacking the plane.
      and not bluffing the Yankes?

      On the one hand, you may be right.
      By hiding the true goals of your development, your opponent (s) should be misled, fearful and wasted, and in your vassals and "partners" to maintain the belief that you are the most successful, powerful and progressive.

      On the other hand, there may be another answer.
      Work is progressing on this or not quite this topic and is going well, and you need to mislead your opponent (s), fear and waste material spending, and in your vassals and "partners" to maintain the belief that you are the most successful, powerful and advanced.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 25 February 2021 14: 43
        Quote: credo
        to maintain the belief that you are the most successful, powerful and innovative.

        And if you don't believe - an enemy and a heretic!
  2. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 25 February 2021 13: 57

    The development team with the body of this laser.

    Lockheed Concept

    1. El Chuvachino
      El Chuvachino 25 February 2021 14: 38
      Beautiful cartoon good
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 25 February 2021 15: 30
      You are so openly orgasmic about American weapons that one gets the impression that if you had any Excalibur at your disposal, you would have arranged a candlelit dinner for him, then a shower together, and then spiers.
    3. dzvero
      dzvero 25 February 2021 15: 36
      Development team

      They will hack down the development at the root - not a single Afro ... And if not a single LGBT person is found, it will be completely oh ...
    4. FrankyStein
      FrankyStein 25 February 2021 15: 54
      If as a means of defense against missiles, then why is the laser directed forward, what if the enemy is behind?
      1. zwlad
        zwlad 25 February 2021 16: 44
        what if the enemy is behind?

        And this is another R&D and under another agreement.
    5. Sergey985
      Sergey985 25 February 2021 17: 14
      Beautiful cartoon. That's what the difference in approach means. We first have a product, then, with the remaining funds, a cartoon. And here it looks like a cartoon first, then with its help they knock out the loot.
    6. eklmn
      eklmn 25 February 2021 23: 03
      A few days ago:
      "The US Army creates the world's most powerful laser weapon."
      (translated by google).
      “The US Army wants to develop a new laser weapon that will be almost three orders of magnitude more powerful than the existing one, but its lifespan will be only marginally shorter.
      The service posted an announcement for the alleged new weapon on the Pentagon's Small Business Investment Research website, calling the weapon a tactical ultra-short pulse laser for military platforms. The army thinks it could simply aim a laser at the drone to damage it and fry its electronic guts.
      Problems with existing lasers? Continuous lasers, often in the kilowatt class, must focus on a single point on a target for a few seconds.
      USPL ultrashort pulsed lasers, however, will change duration to power, producing a pulse of laser energy of 1 terawatt and 200 femtoseconds duration. For context, 1 terawatt equals 1 trillion watts, and 1 femtosecond is equivalent to 1 quadrillion second. Unlike continuous lasers, which simply burn, the military claims USPL systems can neutralize threats through three different mechanisms:
      [] The release of material from the target, the blinding of sensors through the generation of broadband supercontinuum in the air and the generation of local electronic interference used to overload the internal electronics of the threat. The EMP aspect of an army laser is useful as it will help ensure that enemy drones are shot down. Even if the laser does not burn enough material from the drone to cause it to fall, or if the drone relies on sensors that cannot be blinded by the laser beam (GPS), EMP can completely shoot down the drone.
      1. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 26 February 2021 13: 20
        "... The US Army wants ..."
        - that's it - you don't have to read further ...
    7. Charik
      Charik 27 February 2021 00: 01
      And it's all on their knees, they are photographed Negro that Lee
  3. Cowbra
    Cowbra 25 February 2021 13: 59
    It remains to bring the knights of the Jews. On the suspension - and high wave the laser.
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 25 February 2021 15: 10
      It is the Zhidaev ...
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 27 February 2021 07: 35

        Alien From (Alien From)
        25 February 2021 15: 10

        It is the Zhidaev ...
        They already have them wink
  4. Last centurion
    Last centurion 25 February 2021 14: 21
    Well, what about removing torque from the turbine to the generator, charging the capacitor bank. Energy on board w wagon. Only there was something to save. It would be futuristic. Again, the cooling is full and the outside air and kerosene for you
    1. VO3A
      VO3A 25 February 2021 17: 52
      F16 has one engine, a very bad choice! It looks like a fake ... It is better to install a windmill and solar panels, as in Texas ... and the result is the same ...
    2. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 26 February 2021 14: 07
      "... Energy aboard train wagon ...."
      - Yes hto you told IT? !!!
      In a standard aviation taxiway there are two turbines - one turbine-air blower and on the SAME shaft there is an output turbine-engine located in the output jet stream of the engine. The jet jet turns the turbine-engine (it is made of ceramic and has an operating temperature of the blades of the order of a thousand degrees). And this turbine-engine, mounted on ONE shaft with a turbine-supercharger - through this common shaft - turns this turbine-supercharger, which at the engine inlet compresses the incoming air flow (oxidizer) BEFORE it (in the engine combustion chambers) fuel (kerosene) injected ...
      And therefore, the engine speed is directly related to the performance (and PRESSURE !!!) behind the inlet turbine, and therefore to the FUEL BURNING MODE and the SPEED / POWER of the engine's output JET, which, in fact, consumes "all the energy" of the engine. .. 8-)))
      - SHAFT for all turbines of the engine is ONE !!!

      Not - well, in principle, there are twin-shaft engines - but this is where you need to get low revs - for example, for helicopter propellers. But there between the turbine shaft and the power take-off shaft - there is a REDUCING GEAR REDUCER - with a constant speed reduction ratio (has maximum efficiency). And on the fighter - there is no second shaft! - Iba adding a second shaft with a gearbox means dimensions, weight, and a decrease in the overall efficiency of the motor. And if that shaft is "plug-in", then it further reduces the efficiency and increases the mass and dimensions.
      Yes, you can "forever hang" the rotor windings of an electric generator on the turbine, controlling its power by the current of the stator windings (located in the turbine housing) - but firstly, this is again an increase in DIMENSIONS (by the length of the rotor windings on the turbine shaft), and again an increase in MASS (copper - it is extremely HEAVY). In a word - it will actually be a DIFFERENT (completely NEW !!!) jet engine with a completely new load characteristic - and even dynamically changing in time (when the generator windings are turned on under DIFFERENT loads) - in a word, test it, test and test it! And the new taxiway actually means a NEW AIRCRAFT, which is also tested, tested and tested ...
      - and on an old plane (with a standard taxiway) - such a generator is UTOPIA ....
      For the power (of the order of MEGAWATT) required to pump a 100 kW laser is not at all the power required to power standard aircraft loads (even taking into account the needs of its radar) ... So there is NO "excess power" on board a jet aircraft - NOT !!! And it cannot be, if such "surpluses" were not incorporated at the design stage of the aircraft - and were not proven in the process of testing when working on a test load (in fact, a test MEGAWATT load is still that problem) - you have never tried SCATTER / TRANSFER such power to the environment within the dimensions of an aircraft ... - it will burn, sir ...
      - learn to match!
      1. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 26 February 2021 15: 08
        Chimera of War Laser Mirages
  5. Your stranger
    Your stranger 25 February 2021 14: 23
    Isn't that the one developing a new 4th generation fighter that they want to place a powerful generator in the hull?
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 25 February 2021 14: 26
    Again, a powerful projector will turn out! wassat
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 25 February 2021 14: 27
    Lasers, shmazers ... there are a lot of conversations around and not for the first time.
    Let's wait and see.
  8. Thrifty
    Thrifty 25 February 2021 14: 29
    Every year they scare themselves that it is this year that they will definitely create a combat laser, the years go beyond the concepts, the matter does not move. ...
  9. General failure
    General failure 25 February 2021 15: 23
    Have they dug up this stewardess again?

    After all, ten years ago, they were loudly shouting about "breakthroughs in missile defense" and paving the laser into a huge passenger Boeing.
    But either the breakthrough was not the same, or the wrong thing broke through, but the topic shyly died out.
    And here again ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 25 February 2021 15: 35
      Quote: General Failure
      And here again ...

      Star Wars, Jedi, Lightsabers ... wassat
    2. Klingon
      Klingon 26 February 2021 12: 01
      it was a missile defense laser of the same class as Peresvet, bulky and chemical. (although apparently Peresvet is apparently with nuclear pumping) We had a similar topic (is) on the aircraft carrier Beriev A-60
    3. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 26 February 2021 14: 46
      "... paved the laser into a huge passenger Boeing ..."

      - the usual DRUNK of the defense budget of the FSA (fascist states of America).

      The USSR installed a megawatt class CW infrared chemically pumped laser (RD-0600 type) on the IL-76 back in the 70s and 80s ... (the "Skif" program). But there was a calculation to launch this laser into space. In gozmoz - there is NO absorption by the atmosphere.

      So, while President Reagan WAS RUNNED with his "strategic defense initiative" - ​​by 1983 in the USSR (Voronezh Design Bureau of Chemical Engineering) - a combat 600-kilowatt airborne / space laser that went through a full cycle of ground tests had already been developed and practically manufactured. And then it becomes clear why, after the successful test in the USSR of the oxygen-hydrogen rocket Energia with the Buran shuttle, why the head of the US space program then said: this is the PERMISSION from the USSR. " He reddenedly understood - WHAT EXACTLY could put this "Buran" into orbit. RD-0600 weighed only about half a ton and had quite acceptable dimensions - about 2x1.5x0.5 meters.

      And in the atmosphere, and even more so over the sea (ship), combat lasers are UTOPIA (toys). Combat power beam - very strongly absorbed by water vapor, not to mention fog (clouds). 50 meters - the beam power is transmitted quite well, but further - the power losses increase significantly. But the main thing is that in order to damage the target even with the combat power of the beam, you MUST HOLD the beam at one point on the target surface - well, at least for a few seconds.
      - And if the target is covered with thermal insulation, then the required time increases DIFFERENTLY.
      - And if the target also rotates?
      - And if the goal is also HYPERSONIC ?!
      In a word - until you find a target, while you aim the laser beam at it, while you fix its beam on the target ... - then this "target" will knock you down a long time ago ...
      8 - ((
      - and this is materiel!
  10. zwlad
    zwlad 25 February 2021 16: 42
    I would like to see the result of these "combat laser" tests.
    Only now the fight will be zero.
  11. Klingon
    Klingon 26 February 2021 11: 59
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Drive from the aircraft engine shaft.

    in this case, it would be possible to sculpt a laser on any woman-mobile, but I see that this is not so and promising systems of the "Iron Ray" type need an additional module of a mobile power plant with a railway carriage in size to provide energy for a 50 kW laser. And the same car should fly next to the F-16 wassat
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    3. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 26 February 2021 15: 12
      "... in that case it would be possible to sculpt a laser on any mobile woman ..."
      - eight-))
      The 50kW turbojet powered laser powered by 2000s technology is TWO LARGE LOADERS.
      - Well, how - such a "bang-mobile" - suits?
      An even more powerful version of this system, MLTK-50, capable of cutting 120 mm thick steel at a distance of 30 m, was demonstrated back in 2003 at the MAKS air show, which, by the way, is VTB's general sponsor.
      The complex was an installation mounted on a truck and a trailer: on one - the laser itself, on the second - an aircraft engine that supplies the laser with energy. Western experts looked at each other thoughtfully at the sight of MLTK-50. Painfully, she reminded them of something. Yes, in fact, no one especially concealed its true origin. The creator of the "technological complex for the elimination of accidents," which was offered to anyone for 2 million dollars, was ... the concern of air defense "Almaz-Antey", with which VTB has long-term cooperation. Among the promotional materials was a video storyboard in which a laser beam was shot down by a drone. A document titled "Tests of the Effect of Laser Radiation on an Aerodynamic Target" is dated 1976 ...
  12. Charik
    Charik 26 February 2021 23: 57
    But what about F18y-by something