Soviet artillerymen decided to heat the charges: on the battles of the 1950s for islands in the Taiwan Strait

In the 50s of the last century, the first acute phase of the conflict between the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China (Taiwan) began. In August 1954, Beijing began to talk about the need to liberate Taiwan, as well as the islands that are in the Taiwan Strait. At that time, there was a military contingent of the Republic of China on the islands, which was not recognized by the official authorities of the PRC.

In January 1955, Chinese bombers attacked the Dachen and Yijiangshan Islands, where the enemy's artillery positions and command posts were located. Then Soviet military advisers helped to prepare the operation on the islands. The USSR got involved after the capture of the Soviet tanker Tuapse by Taiwanese troops.

In 1958, a new phase of the conflict began. At the same time, the United States tried with all its might to show China its readiness to intervene in the conflict in such a way that it is the PRC that will suffer first of all. It came to open threats to tactical nuclear weapons.

The year is 1958. Soviet artillery - the artillery of a country that at that time was a military ally of China - was stationed on the mainland coast of the Taiwan Strait. Artillery held back Taiwanese warships, which repeatedly tried to approach the coast of the PRC. In turn, the Taiwanese army decided to use 203-mm long-range guns. The "Soviet-Chinese" forces had at their disposal the 130-mm M-46 cannons manufactured by the factory # 172. As a result, it turned out that the Taiwanese side has an advantage. The shells fired from Soviet cannons did not reach the enemy positions for about 3 km. I had to go for a trick. They decided to ... heat up the charges.

Before use, the Soviet artillerymen warmed up the charges. So what happened in the end?

This is described in the material of the channel "Truth of Life":

Comments

[mark1]

Probably not the shells were heating but the charges ...

[figwam]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Probably not the shells warmed up and the charges.

Gunpowder was heated and dried

[Mavrikiy]

[quote =Mavrikiy] Probably not the shells, but the charges. [/ Quote]

Quote: figvam

Gunpowder was heated and dried

The quote is not mine, sort it out .... Watch the movie, the charges warmed up to 42 degrees. Wet gunpowder? Doubtful. Although the charge drying procedures are provided in the manuals, they are not amazing!

[figwam]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Watch the movie, the charges warmed up to 42 degrees. Wet gunpowder? Doubtful.

The charges are composed of gunpowder that has been heated.

[Maz]

Bayan of ten years range, in the original source it is much more interesting written and the name of the rationalizer - the Soviet adviser is indicated

[Vadim Ananyin]

Give me a link if it doesn't bother you! Thank !

[Vadim Ananyin]

If so, which is perfectly acceptable, then that advisor was a great specialist.
Experience and knowledge cannot be spent on drink, so the Soviet school is not the worst and maybe the best in fact.

[Titus_2]

Now you can add to your phrase .... was the Soviet school, unfortunately, they did not save nifiga.

[Vadim Ananyin]

I agree, we have profited a lot, and even in something that is not replenished.
Which by the way does not please.

[The leader of the Redskins]

From the words of a comrade:
At their military department there was a teacher with the rank of lieutenant colonel, an artilleryman. And on some holiday the students saw that he had a "red star" on his uniform!
The order is fighting! And by years, the teacher at the Second World War is young, and in Afghanistan he is old (everyone did not know about Angola and Korea at that time)
Let them twist it after the meal. So he told then that he was a participant in those events and, on a dispute (!) With the local command, undertook to hit the ship, which, knowing our performance characteristics, did not come closer than what was allowed. Warmed charges with gunpowder. After the volley, the batteries got hit and the enemy ship "rolled away". And he won the dispute, and received the order.
For what I bought, for what I sell. I say right away - I have not watched the video.

[Svetlana]

For those who do not have time to watch the movie:
Heated up to 43 degrees Celsius, which increased the muzzle velocity of the projectile by 10%.
At 18:30 on August 23, 1958, when the wind blew in the right direction, a hail of 130-mm shells unexpectedly fell on the chaikanshi positions on the Jinmen Island ("Golden Gate"). Within two hours, 50 thousand of them were produced. The command post, the observatory and almost all the artillery positions were destroyed on the island. 440 soldiers were killed and 1870 were injured, including the future Minister of Defense of Taiwan.

Source: voenhronika.ru

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Svetlana

increased by 10% muzzle projectile speed.

Initial, no muzzle!

Within two hours, 50 thousand of them were produced.

How is it in Russian? Rave. 14 pcs / sec., What is this unit, the brigade? Let 100 barrels, in 2 hours, 500 shots per barrel, the barrels go with a screw.

[Svetlana]

Yes, a typo, thanks.

[Svetlana]

I pointed out the source to you. All questions to them.

[ccsr]

Then Soviet military advisers helped to prepare the operation on the islands.

It is unlikely that any of the VO readers now know that the GRU General Staff at that time formed the 9th special radio engineering detachment OSNAZ to work in Taiwan to assist the PLA in the conduct of hostilities. But there are memories of veterans, which of course are difficult to find, and nevertheless, you can familiarize yourself with them.

[Vadim Ananyin]

Osnaz helped in many cases, he served in 84-86 years, I honestly did not know that panoramic indicators were already used at that time, thanks!

[alien308]

The practice of heating powder charges was widespread during the Great Patriotic War. I read in my memoirs that in winter, in order to defeat the German airfield on an island in the Baltic Sea, charges were heated.

[Undecim]

Any sergeant - gun commander knows about the effect of gunpowder temperature on muzzle velocity.

This is from the book "The textbook of the sergeant of the missile forces and artillery".

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Undecim

Any sergeant knows about the effect of gunpowder temperature on muzzle velocity -

And even a private, if there is a hat on his head (not frostbitten)

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Undecim

Any sergeant - gun commander knows about the effect of gunpowder temperature on muzzle velocity.

I've read a more prosaic version of the 130mm cannon range increase! In that version, the "wind rose" was taken into account! To put it simply and briefly, the shells flew with a "tailwind"!

[mr.ZinGer]

Physics is not as friendly as it is, take into account the tailwind when flying the projectile to increase the range ...

[mr.ZinGer]

Who put a minus, maybe with a pencil and paper prove that I'm wrong ?!

[Undecim]

You can prove without a pencil that you wrote nonsense.

[mr.ZinGer]

I agree with the wind.
Got excited.
But use its factor to increase the range ...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: mr.ZinGer

Who put a minus, maybe with a pencil and paper prove that I'm wrong ?!

I didn’t put but added. And to prove .... Will the exam allow you to understand?
The muzzle velocity of the projectile is 930 m / s. in flight it falls, rubbing against the air, guess? Average speed 560 m / s (INET for help. An example is given at (initial speed over 500 m / s - average speed 300 m / s) +/- bast shoe (dad used to say: "do not shoot"). We shoot at a distance of 26 m , barrel rise to 500 degrees, projectile flight trajectory is hyperbole, hence the path flown by the projectile, let it be 45 m (or even more), and its flight time: 30/000 = 30000 s. In the strait, the wind speed is 560-54 m / s, weak breeze. 10 x 12 = 11 m. Of the required 54-594 km, we have a 2-3% increase. Knowledge, and not "how is it, some kind of wind and a shell from a cannon."

[mr.ZinGer]

Come on, you exaggerate over EG that he said stupidity, admitted, but you do not correctly explain the essence of the increase in the range, it is not a tailwind that drives the projectile, but a decrease in the friction force of the projectile against the air, due to a smaller difference in speed.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: mr.ZinGer

Physics is not as friendly as it is, take into account the tailwind when flying the projectile to increase the range ...

Do you understand the origin of your aggressive rhetoric, USE? I passed it with physics on you. And if not in the army, why so far, I was not there either, but I studied military science. And the influence of the direction and speed of the wind on the accuracy of shooting I have, as well as any adequate "defender of the fatherland", although I probably got excited, rather "Soviet". Read carefully, "" Physicist's friend ":

1. The meteorological post of the artillery battalion is intended
for an approximate determination of the meteorological conditions of shooting in
cases when the "Meteo Medium" bulletin is more than 3 hours old or the bulletin is missing.
2. The meteorological post determines the meteorological conditions of firing by measuring ground values ​​of atmospheric pressure, air temperature, wind speed and direction (the speed and direction of the average wind in a layer of 200 m) and the compilation of approximate bulletins "Meteo Medium".

Based on the meteorological data, shooting corrections are calculated and assigned.

[Zaurbek]

One of the amendments that the gunner TXNUMX takes into account is the charge temperature.

[mr.ZinGer]

What nonsense, watch the video again ..
Chukchi is not a spectator, a Chukchi reader !!!

[Alien From]

I join you! I hate videos!) Just read!