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Who killed the Russian Empire

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Who killed the Russian Empire
"Down with the Eagle!" Painting by I.A. Vladimirova


February disaster


How did the Russian Troubles of 1917 begin?

From the riots in the capital of the empire - Petrograd (the city received its Slavic name during the patriotic upsurge of the World War). The reason was the food issue. For several days, the supply of cheap black bread, the basic food of the bulk of the common people, was disrupted.

It is possible that this was a planned sabotage, like the deficit in Moscow during the collapse of the USSR. When meat and fish were thrown into ravines, they destroyed, and the counters were empty. So in the Russian Empire, the problem of food security did not arise. Bread and provisions, in general, were in abundance in Russia.

The issue was delivery, communication disruptions. In addition, in speculation by interested parties. That is, targeted arrests and repressions could bring order in this area.

On February 23, 1917, a strike began at the enterprises of Petrograd. Some of the workers took to the streets. And so it began.

The capital rushed. The streets were filled with crowds that poured from the outskirts to the center. Students and female students joined the workers. At first, people demanded bread. Then they began to shout “Down with!”, Demanding a change of power. On February 24, the strike became general.

If there were decisive commanders in Petrograd, such as Napoleon, or General Ming (killed in 1906) and Rennenkampf, who had the appropriate powers, there would be no problem at all. Several combat military units would instantly disperse the crowds of rioters. Saving the empire with little blood.

However, the police department and military forces in the capital were disorganized, deprived of decisive and proactive leaders. As a result, all the actions of the "siloviks", among whom there were obviously "rats", only provoked a further uprising.

At the same time, Tsar Nicholas II was at Headquarters in Mogilev, not representing the scale of the threat. The rate was inactive, since the top generals were a participant in the game directed against the monarch.

And the crowd in the capital got off all the brakes. The police were pelted with stones, pieces of ice, boards, and beaten. The policemen began to kill. Cossacks, directed to help the police, did not act. In some places, they even began to support the crowd.

The crowd smashed shops and wine cellars, brought food and drink to the soldiers and Cossacks. In the evening, police stations burst into flames. The most important archives were destroyed under the guise, and the law enforcement system was soon completely destroyed.

This is how the great criminal revolution began, which accompanies any troubles, and became an important part of the Russian Troubles of 1917-1921.

Controlled chaos


Petrograd plunges into anarchy.

Troops are being taken out into the streets. But these were rear, spare parts, not fired on at the front. The soldiers did not want to go to the front line, they easily succumbed to revolutionary propaganda. The provocateurs began to shoot at the soldiers, they answered, blood was shed. Chaos and blood shocked the untrained recruits. And then revolutionary agitators infiltrated the barracks. They "processed" some of the soldiers, others adopted "neutrality."

On February 27, the mutiny was raised by the units of the Pavlovsky and Volynsky regiments, and other units followed them. Thousands of soldiers poured into the streets since weapons in hand. The few officers who tried to stop the crowd were torn apart. The soldiers united with the workers and smashed the arsenals. The crowd also smashed the prisons. A "catalyst" - experienced criminals and political prisoners, professional revolutionaries - got into the seething masses.

Armed people seized cars, ran with red flags through the streets. Policemen and gendarmes were killed. The rioters flooded the courthouses, smashed the headquarters of the Security Department (gendarmerie) and the Main Military Intelligence.

Priceless archives have been destroyed. On the same day, the tsar issues a decree on the dissolution of the State Duma. Excited crowds immediately flooded to her defense. The elite of Russia demanded that the sovereign abdicate the throne. Old Russia was blown up, destroyed in a few days!

Moreover, the role of the Bolshevik communists in these events is close to zero. During the First World War they took the position of "defeatism" and were defeated as a party. All leaders and activists were in prisons, in exile, or fled abroad. The influence of the Bolsheviks on the people, the capital was practically zero. Lenin, in general, believed that now the revolution in Russia would take place in the very distant future.

White myth


In democratic Russia of the 1990s, a myth was created that the Bolsheviks, the lumpen proletariat and criminals destroyed “old Russia” with its elite - the nobility and officers, intellectuals and merchants, clergy and wealthy peasants. They walked with fire and sword through the flourishing and happy Russia, plundering, raping and killing. They turned the country into a spiritual and intellectual "desert", drove the people into communist slavery. The country was in slavery until 1991.

And then there was the noble White Army, which tragically fought the "red infection". They fought "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland!" lieutenants Golitsyns and cornets Obolensky. Cossacks and peasants also fiercely fought against the red commissars.

There is also a private version of this version, widespread in the ranks of Russian nationalists, who are not familiar with materiel. They say that "Holy Russia" was attacked by Jewish commissars who led the Bolsheviks and other socialist parties and movements. They enjoyed the full support of the "Financial International" and world Zionism. It was they who destroyed “Holy Russia”, massacred millions of Russian people.

The problem is that the real история Russian turmoil does not correspond to these myths. So, the Jews were in other parties, as well as the Freemasons. And the Freemasons, among whom were many influential representatives of the Russian elite, really played an outstanding role in February.

At the same time, our "allies" in the Entente - France, England and the United States - also played an important role, whose diplomats helped to destroy the autocracy and empire with might and main.

The officers were split into several parts.

Some of them became White Guards volunteers, fighting for the interests of Russian and world capital, playing the role of "cannon fodder".

The latter began to help create a new Russian army - the Red, and with it the ruined statehood.

Still others - joined the ranks of various national armies and formations, participating in the dismemberment of Russia.

The fourth were completely demoralized, fled abroad, as they could retained neutrality, or even became bandits.

The Cossacks were divided into red and white.

The peasants, in general, most often fought for themselves. No power, neither red, nor white, nor nationalist (for example, the Ukrainian Directory) was recognized.

"Red partisans" fiercely fought with the White Guards, smashed their rear. And, as soon as the Reds came to their place, they raised an uprising against the Bolsheviks. And then there were the "green", rebels of all stripes, just gangs whose motive was robbery.

The white army did not fight for any king.

On the contrary, its backbone were generals and politicians who took an active part in the abdication of Nicholas II, the fall of the autocracy and the empire.

Revolutionary Februaryists, Socialists, Social Democrats and Western Liberals. Monarchists in the White movement were not honored. They had to hide their views. The monarchist circles were smashed by the white counterintelligence.

That is, both the White Army and the Red Army were two revolutionary armies - February (White) and October (Red). Plus the nationalist revolutionaries, separatists, who fielded hundreds of thousands of fighters. More than white.

And the elections to the Constituent Assembly in 1918 brought the socialist parties (Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, Socialist-Revolutionaries, People's Socialists) 80% of the vote. Therefore, the people no longer gave a damn about tsarism, capitalism, landowners, merchants and priests. The people voted for socialism, the question was which option would win.

World War I detonator


The key factor that undermined the autocracy was the world war. Therefore, our "allies" - England and France, with all their might and involved us in the war. Without a big war, the autocracy and the empire had a chance to gain time and carry out the necessary modernization of the country and society (which was eventually carried out by the Bolsheviks, but already in much worse starting conditions).

And the West, which was trapped in the next stage of the crisis of capitalism, needed "fresh blood." Other people's resources, accumulated wealth, gold, "brains". Territories that can be colonized, simply robbed, made your sales market. Therefore, the West relied on the death and destruction of the Russian Empire in the world war.

Entering the war, as the Japanese campaign (First Russian Revolution) has already clearly shown, was mortally dangerous for the Russian Empire. The best people of Russia understood this.

In particular, the former Minister of Internal Affairs Pyotr Durnovo (Durnovo's Note dated February 1914), Stolypin and Rasputin (therefore they were killed). The war was from a series of unnecessary and incomprehensible to the Russian people.

At that time we had nothing to share with Germany. On the contrary, a strategic alliance with Germany was asking for itself. However, all attempts to create such an alliance were thwarted (in particular, Witte worked). The war with the Germans (in fact, for the Germans) was suicidal, senseless and insane. In the interests of France, Britain and the United States, who dream of the collapse of their main competitors - the German and Russian empires.

Russians were once again used as "cannon fodder". The Russian army, washing with blood, saved France in 1914 and 1916. She did not allow the German corps to take Paris. We defeated the Turkish army in the Caucasus and allowed the British to get into Iraq and Palestine.

At the same time, Russia became a "cash cow" for the Entente. Hundreds of tons of gold were used to buy weapons, ammunition and equipment. The West took the money, but either did not fulfill the orders, or did it very badly, in part. Russia was simply "thrown".

The West and Japan still owe this gold to us, it is just that it is not voiced.

At the same time, the West "thanked" us for our help.

England was not going to give us Constantinople and the Bosphorus, was preparing plans for the revolution and the collapse of Russia. Western diplomats helped the Februaryist revolutionaries topple Nicholas II.

The Russian peasant did not want to fight for Galicia and some straits. They fought for credits from France, for the strategic interests of London and Paris.

At the same time, the war revealed all the contradictions of the fragmented, sick society of the Russian Empire.

The enemies of Russia drowned the Russian army in blood, its personnel core was destroyed. It was the cadre imperial army that stood in the way of the revolution, it pulled the country out of the turmoil of 1905–1907. Instead of the retired cadres, masses of representatives of the liberal intelligentsia became officers and non-commissioned officers. The soldiers (in the overwhelming majority - peasants) were accustomed to blood, violence and wanted peace and land. In doing so, they learned that the rifle gives rise to power.

And the highest generals, together with the grand dukes (relatives of the king), joined the ranks of the conspirators.

Under pressure from the high command, dignitaries and representatives of the State Duma, Nicholas II was forced to yield.

Russian sovereign with the words:

"Around treason, cowardice and deceit",

was forced to abdicate the throne.
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  1. Destiny
    Destiny 28 February 2021 06: 01
    +37
    the people no longer gave a damn about tsarism, capitalism, landowners, merchants and priests.

    All this white bone, blue blood is to blame for bringing the people to their feet ..
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 28 February 2021 06: 04
      +16
      Quote: Destiny
      the people no longer gave a damn about tsarism, capitalism, landowners, merchants and priests.

      All this white bone, blue blood is to blame for bringing the people to their feet ..

      history, spiral, and another round.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 28 February 2021 07: 26
        +18
        Quote: Aerodrome
        history, spiral, and another round.

        History teaches that it does not teach anyone anything
        1. Plastmaster
          Plastmaster 1 March 2021 14: 32
          +1
          Quote: Silvestr
          History teaches that it does not teach anyone anything

          Most likely it teaches. Dump the chests in time.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 28 February 2021 07: 25
      -7
      Quote: Destiny
      the people no longer gave a damn about tsarism, capitalism, landowners, merchants and priests.

      All this white bone blue blood itself is to blame that people brought to the handle ..

      Are you delusional? What has the pen to do with it? There was a demand in all strata of society, the grand dukes, the government, the top generals, the higher clergy, capitalists, merchants-Old Believers, and the liberal intelligentsia has the motto "Always!" A mass was needed not only for implementation, but also to support the "overthrow of the tyrant." Otherwise, the masses will not understand and will side with the Black Hundreds. The people were set up (starved, war), and voila, they say everything is done in his name. The goal set - to overthrow the king, has been achieved.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 28 February 2021 08: 08
        +4
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Old Believer merchants

        belay
        how to understand this?
        Old Believers 'merchants supported the bourgeois revolution, and New Believers' merchants were against? lol
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 28 February 2021 08: 14
          -6
          Quote: Flood
          Old Believers 'merchants supported the bourgeois revolution, and New Believers' merchants were against?
          fool
          All merchants were for the revolution, but the Old Believers gave money for it, i.e. were practically the organizers. request
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 28 February 2021 08: 25
            +3
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            All merchants were for the revolution, but the Old Believers gave money for it, i.e. were practically the organizers

            do you understand what your statement looks like?
            first you write that it was the Old Believers among the merchants who "had a request for revolution"
            then change your position to "all merchants were for the revolution, but only Old Believers paid"
            I don’t know whether to cry or laugh

            there is such an old Russian expression - to erect in vain
          2. andrew42
            andrew42 1 March 2021 11: 30
            0
            Old Believers or Old Believers-? I would like to be specific.
        2. Boris55
          Boris55 28 February 2021 08: 39
          -12%
          Quote: Flood
          how to understand this?

          And you just need to understand. Merchants are social capital managers hired to augment social capital. Tsarism opposed social capital and advocated private capital. Manufactures, factories created with social capital could not be inherited. On this leash, there was a special decree of the king (one of the manager's spoiled sons filed a lawsuit), obliging him to do this.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 28 February 2021 09: 02
            0
            Quote: Boris55
            Merchants are social capital managers hired to increase the capital of public

            the question was about something else
            but thanks anyway
            you wrote with good intentions wink
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 28 February 2021 19: 13
            +5
            Quote: Boris55
            Tsarism opposed social capital and advocated private capital. Manufactories, factories created with social capital, could not be inherited. On this leash, there was a special decree of the king (one of the manager's spoiled sons filed a lawsuit), obliging him to do this.

            how everything has come true now! Ay-yes the king! laughing
          3. Overlock
            Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 24
            +12
            Quote: Boris55
            could not be inherited. On this leash, there was a special decree of the king (one of the manager's spoiled sons filed a lawsuit), obliging him to do this.

            turns out. that EBN is a counter-revolutionary, in our opinion, white! If you continue to argue, then everything. who support the current government, white. And if so, then they are brothers to Denikin, Kolchak, Kappel and the like. Then what are they celebrating the Day of the Red Army?
            1. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 28 February 2021 20: 41
              +4
              Quote: Overlock
              all. who support the current government, white. And if so, then they are brothers to Denikin, Kolchak, Kappel and the like. Then what are they celebrating the Day of the Red Army?

              And they renamed it. So, they do not celebrate the Day of the Red Army.
            2. Matroskin
              Matroskin 1 March 2021 15: 04
              +4
              That's how the discovery, the whites staged a counter-revolution. )) The symbols of the state seem to have hinted for a long time, the rehabilitation of the "white knights", the distribution of the nobility to the leaders of the state and businessmen, the segregation of society, buckets of slop on Soviet power from all cracks, etc.
              In accordance with the amendments made to the Federal Law "On the Days of Military Glory of Russia" by the Federal Law of April 15, 2006, the words "Day of the Red Army victory over the Kaiser's troops in Germany (1918)" were excluded from the official description of the holiday, and it is also stated in the singular the concept of "defender".
          4. Dimide
            Dimide 1 March 2021 12: 30
            +2
            You can clarify, as far as I remember, merchants are the owners, and effective managers are managers, clerks and other hired personnel
      2. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 28 February 2021 11: 19
        +12
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        The people were set up (starved, war)

        In fact, hunger was inevitable. The first food crisis was already in 1914. When the transport of the RI fell into the first collapse. Leaving about 30-35 million tons of civilian cargo to rot at the stations. Well, when, by the end of 1916, the number of locomotives and carriages was reduced by about a quarter, in the seventeenth it was already halved, and the demand for cargo transportation only grew ... The crisis was stupidly inevitable. And the author's thought
        The issue was delivery, communication disruptions. In addition, in speculation by interested parties. That is, targeted arrests and repressions could bring order in this area.

        raises some doubts about the soundness of the mind. Whom to repress then? Carriages and steam locomotives? For falling apart from old age? Well, yes, this is so ... From the spectacle of a public execution of a steam locomotive, or hanging a carriage, you can go crazy for a while so that you forget about everything. lol
      3. atakan
        atakan 9 March 2021 12: 02
        0
        ... Otherwise, the masses will not understand and will side with the Black Hundreds. The people were set up (starved, war), and voila, they say everything is done in his name. The goal set - to overthrow the king, has been achieved.




        Perhaps in the competition for the first place for the destruction of the Russian Empire, these people, of one well-known nationality, win.
        Of course, English, American, German and Japanese money helped them all a lot.
        The great dukes of the Romanov family made a very significant contribution to the disintegration of the empire.
        And the so-called Social Revolutionaries helped to finish off.
    3. Bar1
      Bar1 28 February 2021 10: 32
      -19%
      The people voted for socialism, the question was which option would win.


      Samsonov, what kind of people? It is not necessary to write these nonsense, the Bolsheviks who adhered to the Soviets of Soldiers' Deputies and announced in time the MAIN decree - the Decree on Land and the Decree on Peace. In fact, they deceived the soldiers / peasants, because the Bolsheviks gave the peasants land the opportunity to sell agricultural products by banning the markets.
      And with the hegemon, the Bolsheviks did this, that's what Gorky wrote about the events of January 18th.

      On January 5, 1918, unarmed St. Petersburg democracy - workers, office workers - peacefully demonstrated in honor of the Constituent Assembly ... Pravda lies when it writes that the January 5 demonstration was organized by the bourgeoisie, bankers, etc., and that the Tauride Palace it was the "bourgeois" and the "Kaledinites" who were walking. Pravda is lying - it knows perfectly well that the "bourgeois" have nothing to rejoice at about the opening of the Constituent Assembly, they have nothing to do with 246 socialists of one party and 140 Bolsheviks. Pravda knows that workers from Obukhovsky, Patronny and other factories took part in the demonstration, that workers from Vasileostrovsky, Vyborgsky and other districts were marching to the Tauride Palace under the red banners of the Russian Social Democratic Party. It was these workers who were shot, and no matter how much Pravda lied, it would not hide the shameful fact ... So, on January 5, the unarmed workers of Petrograd were shot. They were shot without warning that they would shoot, they were shot from ambushes, through the cracks of fences, cowardly, like real killers [24]


      those. the Bolsheviks SHOT the workers, as they would later shoot and gasse the peasants.

      Where did the Bolsheviks get such power, after all, in the summer of 17, the Bolshevik party was scanty and generally banned by the VP?
      It is completely incomprehensible to the Bolsheviks that two regiments of the Latvian and Lithuanian nationals joined the Bolsheviks. It was on them that the Bolsheviks relied when they dispersed the Constituent Assembly.
      This is where it is just necessary to deal with these non-Russian regiments, who they are and why they unconditionally obeyed the Bolsheviks.
      1. bk0010
        bk0010 28 February 2021 10: 49
        +4
        Quote: Bar1
        It is completely incomprehensible to the Bolsheviks that two regiments of the Latvian and Lithuanian nationals joined.
        Their place of residence was occupied by Germany, they diverged, like others, they had nowhere to go (by the way, the fact that they were one of the few surviving units that participated in the First World War turned them into a "superpower" of the Civil War, the rest were far from them) , no prospects, but here - a bright future.
        1. Bar1
          Bar1 28 February 2021 10: 58
          -4
          Quote: bk0010
          Their place of residence was occupied by Germany,


          no.
          Germany occupied the Baltic states only by the summer of 18, and these regiments were already in Petrograd at the end of 17 and at the beginning in January 18.
      2. clerk
        clerk 28 February 2021 22: 03
        +5
        ... those. the Bolsheviks SHOT the workers, as they would later shoot and gasse the peasants.
        ... What about "gasing peasants" - that they were driven into gas chambers by whole villages? Or did they fire a dozen other chemical shells from the tsarist release at the armed rebels who had taken refuge in the forest? So at that time, this is a completely conventional weapon used by all the main (including Russian) belligerent armies. What is the fuss about?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 1 March 2021 18: 33
          +1
          Quote: clerk
          So at that time, this is a completely conventional weapon used by all the main (including Russian) belligerent armies.

          Uh-huh ... one chemical war between the invaders and the Reds in the North is worth a lot.
          At that time, OV is just another weaponlike an atomic bomb in the first ten years.
      3. clerk
        clerk 28 February 2021 22: 07
        +11
        .
        It is completely incomprehensible to the Bolsheviks that two regiments of the Latvian and Lithuanian nationals joined the Bolsheviks. It was on them that the Bolsheviks relied when they dispersed the Constituent Assembly.
        This is where it is just necessary to deal with these non-Russian regiments, who they are and why they unconditionally obeyed the Bolsheviks.
        He is like shedding his blood for Russia on the German front - so the regiments of the Russian army, but how to fight for the Reds - so they immediately became non-Russians? "Abram Moiseevich, you either take off the cross, or put on your panties!" (FROM) laughing
      4. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 1 March 2021 18: 31
        +6
        Quote: Bar1
        those. the Bolsheviks SHOT the workers, as they would later shoot and gasse the peasants.

        We have poisoned with these gases, poison and continue to poison the peasants, workers, office workers. entrepreneurs and intellectuals. For in the suppression of the uprising in the Tambov region, shells with chloropicrin were used. Thereby, which is used when checking the fit and performance of gas masks in law enforcement agencies and in civil defense exercises - as the safest of OV.
        The gas company with chlorine that arrived after its inspection was, out of harm's way, sent back - for with such property and personnel, it would have poisoned itself 146% first of all.
      5. Plastmaster
        Plastmaster 1 March 2021 23: 21
        0
        Bitter, still that ..... Revolutionary
    4. Bar1
      Bar1 28 February 2021 10: 52
      -2
      From the riots in the capital of the empire - Petrograd (the city received its Slavic name during the patriotic upsurge of the World War). The reason was the food issue. For several days, the supply of cheap black bread, the basic food of the bulk of the common people, was disrupted.

      It is possible that this was a planned sabotage, like the deficit in Moscow during the collapse of the USSR. When meat and fish were thrown into ravines, they destroyed, and the counters were empty. So in the Russian Empire, the problem of food security did not arise. Bread and provisions, in general, were in abundance in Russia.


      this is MASS MANAGEMENT with a capital letter. When you don’t eat for TWO DAYS, you can kill just anyone. And those who are engaged in such matters know about it. Why historians DO NOT STUDY these facts, who forbade the sale of food in cities, who did it? This is the main question, and by answering it we will find out who is behind all these revolutions.
  2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 28 February 2021 06: 21
    +5
    However, the police department and military forces in the capital were disorganized, deprived of decisive and proactive leaders. As a result, all the actions of the "siloviks", among whom there were obviously "rats", only provoked a further uprising.

    Question to the author - what does the police have to do with it? Accidentally not beguiled with the gendarmerie?

    This is the same as “blaming the Soviet militia for the collapse of the USSR.
    On the subject of "The Collapse of the Russian Empire" there are several interesting works that reflect the role of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the empire. Even after the reforms of 1912, when the operational apparatus was emasculated, in December 1916 alone, the minister of the department received about a hundred reports on the "unfavorable situation." In January 1917, the department applied for permission for enforcement measures at least 16 times, including from His Imperial Majesty. Denied in all cases! So who is to blame for the trouble? By the way, the archives of the sent question are open - study, read, draw conclusions. It is desirable without unfounded accusations.
    1. bandabas
      bandabas 28 February 2021 06: 35
      +1
      Wikipedia. - "For the observation part, the organization and conduct of the political investigation, the conduct of inquiries and other issues, the establishment of the Separate Corps of Gendarmes (provincial gendarme departments, security departments, etc.) were subordinate to the Third Department on June 3 (15), 1826 - August 6 (18), 1880, and then to the Police Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (6 (18) August 1880 - 4 (17) March 1917). "
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 28 February 2021 09: 22
        +5
        Quote: bandabas
        To the Police Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (6 (18) August 1880 - 4 (17) March 1917). "

        This is where the subtlety lies - the police department is not the police of the Russian Empire.
        Even today, the Russian Interior Ministry is closer to the police than in 1917!
        However, the corps of gendarmes, which was mainly involved in the front, cannot be blamed easier than the monarchy.
        The key figure in the collapse of the Empire is the monarch! The principle of one-man management has not been canceled. In 1912, his decrees and volitional decisions killed the operational component of the investigation - "disgusting", "not ethical", etc.
        By the way, the formation of criminology, the criminal investigation department of the Soviet republic in the localities goes back to the tsarist cadres who were thrown onto the street by the Provisional Government.
        1. Obliterator
          Obliterator 28 February 2021 13: 05
          +2
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          By the way, the formation of criminology, the criminal investigation department of the Soviet republic in the localities goes back to the tsarist cadres who were thrown onto the street by the Provisional Government.

          Were they taken to the Soviet militia? Former police officers were denied access to the service, and those who managed to get in at the very beginning were later kicked out anyway. This moment in the tsarist specialist was not just shown in the TV series "Born by the Revolution".
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 25
            +1
            Quote: Obliterator
            Were they taken to the Soviet militia?

            They took him to the Red Army, and then they shot
            1. Obliterator
              Obliterator 1 March 2021 00: 02
              +2
              Quote: Overlock
              They took him to the Red Army, and then they shot

              No, the army and the police are different departments. At some point, army officers even began to be drafted into the Red Army. Someone was then shot, someone, like Shaposhnikov, made a career. Policemen under the Soviets were never particularly favored, and they did not want to see them in the service.
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 28 February 2021 16: 33
          +5
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          The key figure in the collapse of the Empire is the monarch! The principle of one-man management has not been canceled.

          Absolutely in a hole! (from)
          Nicolas ruled the country very badly. He would take as an example Ivan-IV, or Perth-I ...
          The hydra of the revolution had to be crushed, as Bonaparte did in Paris ...
          Our last monarch was weak and worthless. So they overthrew him, and sent the empire down the drain, by the hands of loyal subjects, but not without the help of the then guardians of democracy - England and France ...
          History repeats itself ... Don't let yourself be fooled by chaff again!
    2. 210ox
      210ox 28 February 2021 10: 02
      +13
      Of course, the worthless king is to blame for everything. What a lada he was numbered among the saints. I perfectly understand the Bolsheviks who put him against the wall. Only the only thing is that it was not necessary to kill the children and the environment. It is a crime.
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 28 February 2021 11: 20
        +9
        Only the only thing is that you shouldn't have killed the children

        It’s not a crime. This is the curse of all the children of monarchs. And the main culprit is Britain. Why didn't she take her relative for permanent residence before October 1917?
        1. 210ox
          210ox 28 February 2021 12: 20
          +1
          Who needed it already? Dummy and freeloader. About the children, I don't agree. Yes, and besides them there was also a doctor and a footman.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 28 February 2021 16: 32
            0
            The doctor and the footman themselves remained, as they understood their duty to the employer. There was no time to check how much he needed. Moreover, after the occupation of the city, all the participants in the execution were subjected to repression, who could not escape.
            1. 210ox
              210ox 28 February 2021 17: 56
              +1
              Participants in the execution lived happily for more than a dozen years. Yurovsky, so he was still hiding something to mumble during the "Khrushchev thaw" Sorry, he died at the age of sixty in Moscow. Wrong. But someone there from his team made a career.
              1. Aviator_
                Aviator_ 28 February 2021 18: 08
                +2
                But someone there from his team made a career.

                We ran quickly, so we survived. I read the white papers in the VIZh about the execution of the royal family, all those caught were shot.
              2. 210ox
                210ox 28 February 2021 18: 10
                +2
                I will add. Of the fifteen participants in the execution, only one died a year later. White shot him. Yurovsky died of illness. The daughter and son lived happily, the son even rose to the rank of Rear Admiral.
        2. Obliterator
          Obliterator 28 February 2021 12: 55
          -3
          Quote: Aviator_
          Why didn't she take her relative for permanent residence before October 1917?

          Who would have given her to do this?
        3. Overlock
          Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 28
          +7
          Quote: Aviator_
          This is the curse of all the children of monarchs.

          This is the misfortune of all rulers! Let's remember: Vasily Stalin, Sergei Khrushchev, Galina Brezhneva. The daughter of EBN jumped off, but this is not a regularity
          1. 210ox
            210ox 28 February 2021 20: 42
            +5
            What's wrong with Sergei Khrushchev? Received an excellent education, positions, scientific degree, unscrewed to the States. There he died in his ninth decade. Galina lived as long as she could and died of cirrhosis. Yes, there are millions of such "damned" in the country. They did not die in their youth and the blossoms of youth
      2. Obliterator
        Obliterator 28 February 2021 12: 54
        -4
        Quote: 210ox
        Of course, the worthless king is to blame for everything. What a lada he was numbered among the saints. I perfectly understand the Bolsheviks who put him against the wall. Only the only thing is that it was not necessary to kill the children and the environment. It is a crime.

        They put him against the wall not because he was bad, but because the king. Exactly for the same reason, his children and a bunch of other representatives of the Romanov family were shot - so that the pretenders to the throne would remain. These are all crimes. Holiness in the understanding of the church has different types, and there is nothing strange about the fact that the Romanovs were canonized.
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 28 February 2021 21: 06
          +2
          Quote: Obliterator
          They put him against the wall not because he was bad, but because the king. Exactly for the same reason, his children and a bunch of other representatives of the Romanov family were shot - so that the pretenders to the throne would remain

          Finding a candidate for monarchs is not a problem - when Ruriks ended, the Romanovs were ELECTED for the reign, who were among the founders of the "Russian Troubles" - in fact, the Civil War.
          With the Civil War they entered the Russian government, with the Civil War they left power.
          The order for the destruction of the royal family, no doubt, came from Britain. (Sverdlov and Trotsky had strong ties to London. With Colonel Sidney Reilly, a specialist in dirty business, they worked in the United States in the same newspaper office.)
          Nicholas was persuaded to transport 500 tons of gold and all the jewelry accumulated by the Romanovs over 300 years to Britain.
          After the murder of the Romanovs, the British queen did not hesitate to go out in the, in fact, stolen diamond diadem (there are comparative photos) of the Romanov dynasty.
      3. bk0010
        bk0010 28 February 2021 16: 44
        +9
        Quote: 210ox
        I perfectly understand the Bolsheviks who put him against the wall.
        These are not exactly Bolsheviks. From the states Sverdlov received an order for the murder of the royal family in revenge for not allowing US bankers to enter the Baku oil fields, his people killed the king. Lenin tried to sell the tsar to one of his relatives, but no one took it for free.
        Quote: 210ox
        only the only thing is that it was not necessary to kill children
        The Romanovs began their reign with the murder of the child Maria Mnishek (google "they killed the little thief"), it is quite logical that their reign ended with the murder of their children.
      4. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 28 February 2021 20: 06
        +4
        What a lada he was ranked among the saints. I perfectly understand the Bolsheviks who put him against the wall.
        He is not numbered among the saints, he is numbered among the great martyrs. The Bolsheviks had nothing to do with the execution of the tsar. Read what parties were his killers and organizers.
  3. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 28 February 2021 06: 25
    +2
    Beat the whites until they turn red, beat the reds until they turn white, anarchy is the mother of order, oh, bull's-eye where you roll to me, you won't come back. The imperialist war smoothly spilled over into a civil war, throwing out all the human dregs ... and scoundrels and heroes.
    It was a fun time, I'm afraid that our country runs the risk, under certain conditions, to go the same way again.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2021 07: 31
      +6
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      our country runs the risk, under certain conditions, to follow the same path again.

      Something that is already there:
      1.war - Syria, Caucasus, Donbass
      2. Economic downturn
      3. Growth in the number of poor
      4. Corruption
      5. Degradation of the control system at all levels
      6. Desire to "help" because of the hillock.
      Build these up and voila!
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 28 February 2021 07: 58
        -18%
        Quote: Silvestr
        Something that is already there:

        1. In Syria, with our help, the state of ISIS was destroyed. Only the "liberals" are dissatisfied with this. there they slapped their masters in the muzzles. The last gang was destroyed in Chechnya. The Minsk agreements are still in effect.
        2. In connection with the pandemic, the economic recession is going on all over the world and we are no exception. As for the numbers, we have an average decline of ~ 3%, and in the EU ~ 7%.
        3. The unemployment rate in Spain is ~ 14%. which in no way can be comparable with our indicators ~ 5%.
        4. Corruption is an integral part of capitalism (the original thieves' capital). Defeat Capitalism - Defeat Corruption.
        5. To assess the level of governance in countries, it is enough to look at how the system copes with challenges, such as the coronavirus, and then it turns out that our managers are doing better than the West and the United States.
        6. The desire of the fifth column to put Russia's resources at the feet of the West is still great. They were also encouraged by the rise of Clintonoid Bidon to power in the United States. They are eagerly awaiting handouts in the form of a jam barrel and a cookie basket.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 28 February 2021 08: 39
          +11
          Quote: Boris55
          1. In Syria, with our help, the state of ISIS was destroyed

          Regular fairy tales, who was recently bombed 30 times?
          Quote: Boris55
          Due to the pandemic, the economic recession is happening around the world

          The reasons are not important, the final result is important
          Quote: Boris55
          The unemployment rate in Spain is ~ 14%.

          Why do we need Spain! You better tell us about the product certificate
          Quote: Boris55
          4. Corruption is an integral part of capitalism

          Weak consolation. For corruption, we become academicians laughing
          Quote: Boris55
          To assess the level of governance in countries, just look at how the system copes with challenges such as the coronavirus

          Do not talk nonsense! More than 1 dead doctors and 2nd place in mortality - is it "zrada or peremoga"? laughing
          Quote: Boris55
          The desire of the fifth column to put Russia's resources at the feet of the West,

          This is yes! Ours sell everything to foreign countries, put the West at the feet, and the West is to blame!
          Remind me who is the country's main liberal and who appoints the government, at the same time, how did the main sellers end up in Putin's retinue?
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 28 February 2021 09: 11
            -7
            Quote: Silvestr
            Regular fairy tales, who was recently bombed 30 times?

            Is the state of ISIS there? Not! There are scattered gangs that have become more active since the Clintonoids came to power in the United States.

            Quote: Silvestr
            The reasons are not important, the final result is important

            These are words, and numbers - 3% against 7% in our favor.

            Quote: Silvestr
            You better tell us about the product certificate

            I am against any kind of handout, incl. and certificates, although many of us envy those who live on these certificates (for Welfare) in the United States. California has the largest welfare community, where 72% of migrant residents receive at least one type of social assistance.

            Quote: Silvestr
            Weak consolation. For corruption, we become academicians

            Do you know how many governors in our country take an "academic course" in places not so remote? By governors:
            6 governors - sentenced to real terms
            5 more governors were sentenced to real or suspended sentences for crimes not related to the activities of the governor
            8 governors are currently under investigation
            10 governors escaped punishment due to the expiration of the statute of limitations or due to innocence.
            A total of 29 governors in one way or another met face to face with Themis. And only for 10 of them this meeting turned out to be with a happy ending.

            Quote: Silvestr
            More than 1 dead doctors and 2nd place in mortality

            What puddle do you take such information from?
            In Russia:


            IN USA:

            It is necessary to be vaccinated, and not to listen to Echoes, which themselves have long been vaccinated by Sputnikop, but all the other adherents of their sect are told that our vaccination is "bad" ...

            Quote: Silvestr
            who appoints the government

            "Article 83
            President of Russian Federation:
            a) appoints the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, whose candidacy was approved by the State Duma on the proposal of the President of the Russian Federation, and relieves the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation from office "

            In other words: our chosen ones and their choice is our choice.
            For all other members of the government - read the new Constitution:
            http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_28399/
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 28 February 2021 17: 50
              +11
              Quote: Boris55
              Is the state of ISIS there? Not! There are scattered gangs that

              why on earth is ISIS a state? Do you even know the attributes of the state? Fairy tales are not worth retelling. As gangs were, so they remain
              Quote: Boris55
              I am against any kind of handout, incl. and certificates, although many of us envy those who live on these certificates

              I don't care deeply about America's problems! The fact remains: after 20 years of rule, Putin is thinking about ration cards! If you are comparing, then comparing with one country. And how bad it is to live - with Honduras, salary - with Sri Lanka, And America - for the level of police aggression. Vane
              Quote: Boris55
              Only 29 governors in one way or another met face to face with Themis

              have you met well? How much money was returned to the treasury?
              Quote: Boris55
              What puddle do you take such information from?

              I take the info from the original source. You will roll up your statistics into a tube and blow. According to the results of the work of the department of covid resuscitation, the mortality rate is 75% and this is not the worst department in the city. From 8-00 to 16-00 yesterday, 6 corpses with covid were taken out. I know how Murashko does statistics. Yesterday they locked the computer workers to diagnose "viral pneumonia", and Kovid was strangled by a willful decision.
              Quote: Boris55
              It is necessary to wriggle, and not listen to Echoes, which themselves have long been vaccinated by Sputnikop, but all the other adherents of their sect are told that our vaccination is "bad" ...

              forward! The more people like you take root, the less you will argue with anyone. Vaccines are ALL raw! There are a lot of complications. You are not a camilfo to know this, and you do not need to. People like you are needed as rabbits. Good luck in the pan!
          2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 February 2021 09: 36
            +1
            Quote: Silvestr
            Do not carry nonsense!

            Why are you trying to argue the TV? This fighter with "clitoroidimi" has every phrase - a pearl from the box.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 34
              +10
              Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              This fighter with "clitorideimi" has every phrase

              This is a famous bot! Everywhere he pokes the constitution and laws, which the authorities have long spat upon. And the lord lives in the looking glass
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 February 2021 20: 46
                -1
                Quote: Overlock
                And the lord lives in the looking glass

                Yes, he lives with his head on TV)
                The left hemisphere is Kiselev, the right hemisphere is Shapiro .... well, that is Solovyov. Cerebellum - Skabeeva. The physiology of putinoids is, in principle, primitive)
                1. andrew42
                  andrew42 1 March 2021 11: 39
                  +1
                  Kiselyov / Shapiro hemispheres, Skabeyev's cerebellum - a great formulation! - Well, this is a deliberate choice, hardly a personal trouble of the "repeater". Those who are drowning for the filmed "Rossiyavperde" understand everything perfectly, just pretend to be fools "Why are you not with us?"
        2. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 28 February 2021 11: 58
          +5
          Many things that you said are debatable. But about capitalism is corruption, you are NOT ALL right. For example, in Mexico - capitalism. But corruption is at all levels. From petty bureaucrats, scammers, down to ministers. In the US, ALSO capitalism, but an ordinary citizen does not stumble with corruption NEVER, from the word "Absolutely". The police officer, having slowed you down, will not make money to "forget" about you. If you came to the mayor's office of your village with some kind of petition, your petition will not be "lost", hinting that it would be nice to make a present. Well, the teachers are not engaged in extortion "for the repair of the school" either. I mean, corruption in the United States and Mexico is DIFFERENT. And in Russia, corruption is such that Mexican corrupt officials are jealous of "Here we would be so cleared." And the fact is that in the United States, many are just waiting for someone to catch and show how they are fighting corruption. And, as you yourself understand, no one will cover up a petty official or a policeman, so this link of corrupt officials was diligently thinned out. And everyone knows that the boss dreams of catching a subordinate in bribery and making a name for himself. But the higher you go, the more people will cover you (connections and the fact that you know too much about them too). Although the state governors who have lost their shores sit down too. It's not about capitalism, it's about mentality. There was socialism in the USSR, and bribery and nepotism flourished. There is also socialism in China, moreover, China is a more "peasant" people, with a huge history of corruption and bribery. But the very quick and ruthless landings and executions of the bribe-takers very quickly brought the Chinese back to normal. Moreover, these useful activities continue to this day. The system in China works precisely because the system decided not to "forgive" but to "punish". And this is CORRECT. And in the USSR, corrupt officials, thieves and bribe-takers were not persecuted, in extreme cases they were removed from office and expelled from the party - EVERYTHING.
          1. Alex_1973
            Alex_1973 28 February 2021 13: 01
            +10
            Baron Pardus (Dmitry)
            In the USA, ALSO capitalism, but an ordinary citizen does not encounter corruption NEVER
            In the United States, corruption is not for everyone, but only for the elite, lobbyism is called and raised to the rank of national policy. That is, there seems to be no corruption for an ordinary citizen, but who and what laws are lobbying, ordinary citizens will never know. Otherwise, yes, there is no corruption at the level of a policeman or teacher.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 28 February 2021 19: 19
              +7
              Quote: Alex_1973
              Otherwise, yes, there is no corruption at the level of a policeman or teacher.

              and we just start with them, and
              Quote: Alex_1973
              corruption for the elite

              encouraged, rewarded. The more an official is soiled, the more dependent and controlled he is
            2. Israel
              Israel 1 March 2021 01: 54
              0
              In the United States, corruption is not for everyone, but only for the elite, lobbyism is called and raised to the rank of national policy.

              It would be nice to read the laws on lobbying, and moreover, they still have nuances from state to state, that is, everything is regulated there both at the federal level and at the state level. And if you read all this, you will understand that corruption and lobbying are, to put it mildly, different things. Lobbying is a strictly regulated activity, each step is strictly accountable.
              But the most important thing in the United States and other countries is fighting corruption in a different way, everyone understands that people are inclined to give and take bribes and in Israel this happens, but the problem is to legalize the funds received. If in Russia, as far as I know, this is not a rare case when a relative of the prosecutor (and sometimes the prosecutor himself, but now it seems to be gone) own property worth hundreds of annual salaries. Then in the USA it is necessary to explain to the competent authorities where the funds came from to buy expensive real estate or a car. And if we are talking about the United States, then non-payment or fraud with taxes in the United States is a terrible crime, while in Russia it is a kind of “national sport”.
          2. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2021 17: 58
            +7
            You have tried so hard to refute the thesis about the connection between corruption and capitalism that in the end you proved it. laughing
          3. andrew42
            andrew42 1 March 2021 11: 44
            +2
            In the United States, corruption is highly organized, and is the province of only the highest caste of the American Kaganate. Other "Samaritans" did not come out with their snouts, they cook under the lid of a saucepan, and punish each other strictly, under the control of "chefs" who tug at the budget using the methods of systemic lobbying, that is, "strictly according to the rank" and "who needs a leg."
          4. Bar1
            Bar1 2 March 2021 00: 02
            +2
            Look at the elections. Bedon stole votes from Trump and possibly the presidency, but he won’t get anything for it. Laws are good.
        3. Overlock
          Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 32
          +8
          Quote: Boris55
          Only the "liberals" are dissatisfied with this. there they slapped their masters in the muzzles. The last gang was destroyed in Chechnya.

          They made fun! Pay a bribe to Kadyrov and be proud! And the main thing is the liberal Putin pays!
          Quote: Boris55
          The Minsk agreements are still in effect.

          And according to these agreements, they continue to kill civilians. Are you proud of the blood of innocent children, women, old people? Horror!
      2. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 28 February 2021 11: 12
        -1
        Growing poverty
        If not for the covid, then the Thais in Phuket would now feel like living in Russia as before.
    2. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 28 February 2021 20: 10
      +1
      It was a fun time, I'm afraid that our country runs the risk, under certain conditions, to go the same way again.
      No, hardly. Now they will simply sell it, they will bring in the occupation troops. The army, as in 1917, 1991, will betray everything. We will be genocide.
  4. Private89
    Private89 28 February 2021 06: 31
    +9
    The law has not hardened yet
    The country is noisy, like bad weather.
    She whipped boldly beyond the limit
    Freedom has poisoned us.

    Russia! Lovely land to the heart
    The soul is contracting in pain
    How many years does not hear the field
    Cockerel singing, dog barking.

    How old is our quiet life
    Lost peaceful verbs.
    Like smallpox, pit hooves
    Ranged pastures and valleys.

    Silent stomp, loud groan,
    Squeakers carts and carts.
    Can I sleep and see a dream
    What about the spears on all sides
    Are we surrounded by the Pechenegs?

    Not a dream, not a dream, I see a wail
    With no sleepy gaze
    Like, swimming horses,
    Units are jumping after the detachment.
    Where are they? And where is the war?
    Steppe vody does not heed the word.
    I don’t know if the moon is shining?
    Or did the rider drop the horseshoe?
    Everything is confused ...

    But the gaze understood:
    Home country to the land from the land,
    Flashing with fire and sabers
    The internecine tears discord.

    Russia -
    A terrible, wonderful ringing.
    There are birch trees in the trees, a snowdrop in bloom.
    Where did he come from?
    Have you been troubled by a rebel?
    Harsh genius! He me
    It attracts not according to its figure.
    He did not mount a horse
    And he did not fly towards the storm.
    He did not chop off the shoulders,
    Didn't make the infantry flee.
    He loved one thing in murder -
    Quail hunting.

    For us the hero has become conditional,
    We love those in black masks
    And he is with snotty kids
    In winter, I went for a drive on a sled.
    And he didn't wear that hair
    That pour success on languid women.
    He has a bald head like a tray,
    He looked more modest of the most modest.
    Shy, simple and sweet
    He's like a sphinx in front of me.
    I do not understand by what force
    Has he managed to shake the globe?
    But he shook ...

    Make noise and wei!
    Twist ferociously, bad weather.
    Flush off the unfortunate people
    Shame on jails and churches.

    There was a time of cruel years
    We were nurtured by evil paws.
    In the field of peasant troubles
    Imperial satraps bloomed.

    Monarchy! Ominous stench!
    Feast after feast went on for centuries.
    And the aristocrat sold the power

    Industrialists and bankers.
    The people groaned, and into this horror
    The country was waiting for someone ...
    And he came.

    He is a powerful word
    He led us all to new sources.
    He told us: “To end the torment,
    Take everything into working hands.
    There is no more salvation for you -
    How is your government and your Council "...

    And we went under the screech of a blizzard,
    Where his eyes looked:
    Let's go where he saw
    Liberation of all tribes ...

    And so he died ...
    Crying is annoying.
    The muses do not praise the voice of troubles.
    From the brass barking hulks
    The last salute is given, given.
    The one who saved us is no more.
    He is no longer there, and those who are alive
    And those he left behind
    A country on a raging spill
    Should be chained in concrete.

    For them you cannot say:
    Lenin died.
    Their death did not lead to longing.

    Even harsher and gloomier
    They do his deeds ...

    Sergey Yesenin.
    November 1924, XNUMX
  5. Simargl
    Simargl 28 February 2021 06: 33
    +3
    The capitalists held out in 1917 for less than a year. They have been holding on for almost 30 years ...
    1. Van 16
      Van 16 28 February 2021 07: 41
      +9
      "They have been holding on for almost 30 years now ..."

      The recent 30 years have been sharing what is left of the Union, at 17 they did not have such a bonus ..
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 36
      +11
      Quote: Simargl
      They have been holding on for almost 30 years ...

      if it were not for the Soviet power and its backlog, they would have held out less. Freeloaders and Destroyers
  6. ivan2022
    ivan2022 28 February 2021 06: 36
    +3
    The author listed the facts, but where are the causes of the crisis? In World War II, there were even more problems, but there was no collapse .......
    Of course, the "Russian sovereign" by the name of Holstein - Gottorp during the war with Germany is a class! Here it is, the cause of the collapse.
    For 150 years the country was ruled by the Germans, and the Russian nobles put up with it ... this is not the reason, to be like that .......... - this is fate.
    In the early 90s, the same rake on the forehead as a hundred and a thousand years ago; "Come and rule us" - YES, THIS IS FATE.
    1. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 28 February 2021 21: 14
      -2
      Of course, the "Russian sovereign" by the name of Holstein - Gottorp during the war with Germany is a class! Here it is, the cause of the collapse.
      Ah, again the Jews are to blame for everything !!! Isn't it funny yourself or is it being paid for? Where the Jews are to blame, there is clearly a "Zhidomasson conspiracy." And I saw them, these Zhidomassons. They hide under every bed. You found them !!!!!!!! Here is a sensation !!!!!
      1. ivan2022
        ivan2022 1 March 2021 14: 12
        +1
        Quote: AKuzenka
        Ah, again the Jews are to blame for everything !!

        The ignorant is to blame for everything. Holtstein-Gottorp Oldenburgskie-German dynasty that ruled Russia from 1762 to 1917. IS THIS NORMAL? It was about the German government in Russia.
        I don’t know if it’s funny or not, but the head is not all right with many compatriots. They can't understand a damn thing.
    2. Plastmaster
      Plastmaster 2 March 2021 19: 44
      0
      Quote: ivan2022
      Here it is, the cause of the collapse.

      German .......... offspring and ruled England. Yes, as it were, the Cornitos still remained. And so, I agree. They pissed through Russia and the land, even from those centuries.
  7. New Year day
    New Year day 28 February 2021 06: 40
    +10
    ... Several combat military units would instantly disperse the crowds of rioters.

    A somewhat cursory glance. Was System the crisis, which Lenin clearly described - "the upper classes could not, the lower classes did not want." Further, the author partially described everything and described its reasons for embezzlement, unnecessary war, etc. In today's words, managers
    the bad ones were at the helm.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2021 07: 11
      +9
      Quote: Silvestr
      There was a Systemic crisis, which Lenin clearly described - "the upper classes could not, the lower classes did not want."

      To catch up. Failure to understand the systematic nature of the crisis in either 17th or 91st creates a false impression on both the author and the current government about the possibility of a forceful solution to discontent.
      In such cases, they simply forget that blood generates new blood and after it the old society cannot be
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 28 February 2021 09: 26
        -12%
        Quote: Silvestr

        In pursuit. The lack of understanding of the systemic nature of the crisis, both in 17th and 91st, creates a false impression on both the author and the current government about the possibility of a forceful solution to discontent.

        In 1917, it was unprecedented before cruelty and loss WORLD WAR... At the same time, Russia is a unique belligerent Non-starving country (in Germany, 800 corpses from hunger and there is definitely a more systemic crisis000 and there should be a revolution, but no))

        But even martial law was not introduced, as in other countries, where strikes and protests were severely punished by prison and executions - which was right: during such cataclysms no time for doubt- everything should be aimed at Victory.

        This is what Stalin did in 1941, introducing an iron order without a hint of liberalism: what would have happened after the wild failures of 1941, if everyone knew the truth about them and could freely criticize, speak out and condemn, as in WWI? Moreover, there has never been a drop in the level of 1941 in Russia at all.

        A state of emergency, as in 1941, would have saved the situation in WWI, but they chose greater freedom, alas.

        But in 1991, yes, -WITHOUT any howlus, the completely decayed system collapsed under the weight own her unsolvable problems, and she has been rotting since 1917.

        It is ridiculous to assert an article about meat and products destroyed on a national scale in the USSR in order to cause hunger: it means that NORMAL supplies could not be organized, but hunger is like clockwork and at the same time there is NOT ONE document-order to organize it (otherwise who started organizing it locally?)

        Quote: Silvestr
        the authorities about the possibility of a forceful solution to discontent.

        the dissatisfied need to tear off the fat one from the sofa and go to the elections, create their own parties, circles, agitation, choose their boobies, albats, gozmans. For this they have their Ekhi, Dozhdi, RBK, NG, SNN, VVS and others. Today it is not the Leninist regime with its executions for that.

        А The most disgruntled were now, yes, Muscovites and St. Petersburg residents with iPhones over 100 thousand, represented by Tiktokers, YouTubers, hipsters, haters, facebookers and followers.
        Quote: Silvestr
        which Lenin clearly described -

        lol he clearly wrote that in his lifetime he ... will not see the revolution.
        Quote: Silvestr
        Studied poorly at the university, Lenin should at least have been read

        you yourself do not know him, if you advise this: what came true of his pre-VOR postulates - to dissolve the army and the police, replacing them with the courts .... "the general arming of the people", about workers' control and other nonsense? As a result, he came to ... a normal army, a professor of militia, courts and the NEP.

        but how many millions have died while in the brains of the never-working and uncontrolled loafers something brightened up in the minds of the immutable truths?

        Or do you urge to learn from Lenin that the wildest cruelty in suppressing not just disaffected, and even potential dissatisfied, physically destroying not just enemies, but entire classes, banning all freedoms, newspapers, dissent, processions, parties, which led to 10-15 million victims of the Civil War? And he managed to crush and partially destroy the dissatisfied.

        about who committed February, Stalin clearly wrote in the Short Course: the February revolution was made by the PROLETARIAT at the call and under the leadership of the BOLSHEVIKS
        1. bk0010
          bk0010 28 February 2021 10: 57
          +10
          Quote: Olgovich
          those who are dissatisfied need to tear off the fat one from the sofa and go to the elections, create their own parties, circles, agitation, choose their boobies, albats, gozmans. They have for this their Ekhi, Dozhdi, RBK, NG, SNN, VVS and others. Today it is not the Leninist regime with its executions for this.
          Olgovich, well, show an example, create your own party of monarchists without coordinating with the authorities! Yes, now they do not shoot for this, now, to prevent this, they are imprisoned "not for this." Much easier?
          Quote: Olgovich
          And the most dissatisfied were now, yes, Muscovites and Petersburgers with iPhones over 100 thousand, represented by Tiktokers, YouTubers, hipsters, haters, facebookers and followers.
          That's amazing, right? People have something, they do not want to lose it and are unhappy that the dominant camarilla is pushing the country towards revolution and collapse. Well, how is that, right ?!
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 28 February 2021 12: 32
            -14%
            Quote: bk0010
            Olgovich, show an example, create your own party of monarchists without coordinating with the authorities!

            THIRTY-SEVEN parties exist in Russia, for any, even yours, Gozman's / communist taste.

            YOU personally tried to create your own party and were not allowed to? Not?

            Do not tear her, darling, from the sofa, right?
            Quote: bk0010
            Yes, now they do not shoot for this, now, to prevent this, they are imprisoned "not for this"

            once again, tell us how you were jailed for creating it.

            And yes, WHO is stopping you from creating it underground with appearances, circles, hard labor lol emigration, as before the thief, the same Bolshevik Socialist-Revolutionaries? Once all?

            Again the irresistible attraction to the sofa? lol
            Quote: bk0010
            That's amazing, right? People have something, they do not want to lose it and are unhappy that the dominant camarilla is pushing the country towards revolution and collapse. Well, how is that, right ?!

            these fat hamsters not to lose they want to be afraid, but they want to HAPPY more, but already for the Porsche themselves, so that the Porsche stands at the entrance and a bank card with millions appears out of thin air, and all this is not working.


            show among these, in Moscow, at least one ... peasant. Worker? A soldier?

            And who of them even in Russian army served honestly? Yes, they hate her and despise those who went there.
            1. bk0010
              bk0010 28 February 2021 12: 40
              +5
              Quote: Olgovich
              YOU personally tried to create your own party and were not allowed to? Not?
              Are you trying to sum up the article? Platoshkin, for example, was imprisoned. Kungurov too.
              Quote: Olgovich
              And yes, WHO is stopping you from creating it underground with attendances, circles, hard labor lol emigration-how are the same Bolshevik Socialist-Revolutionaries before the thief? Once all?
              I see you decided to raise your time off the floor?
              Quote: Olgovich
              these fat hamsters are not afraid to lose, but they want to HAPNUT at the freebies more, but already for the Porsche themselves, to have a Porsche at the entrance and a bank card with millions out of thin air appeared, and all this without working.
              Do not judge others by yourself.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 28 February 2021 13: 23
                -11%
                Quote: bk0010
                Are you trying to sum up the article? Platoshkin, for example, was imprisoned. Kungurov too.

                who needs you and your empty chatterbox? lol

                Platoshkin in the "party" .... was there one? belay lol And where are the rest of the party members?

                this is sho for ... there is no such "party" if it exists / does not exist due to the presence / absence of ... ONE person lol
                Quote: bk0010
                I see you decided to raise your time off the floor?

                I am looking at persecution mania.

                but the Bolsheviks were not afraid, yes ...
                Quote: bk0010
                Do not judge others by yourself.

                according to them, tiktoker fighters, I judge: name among them those who served in the army, which they despise.

                I served in the army for several years and built not a house, but a whole small city - in total
                1. bk0010
                  bk0010 28 February 2021 16: 38
                  +5
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  this is sho for ... there is no such "party" if it exists / does not exist due to the presence / absence of ... ONE person
                  There are a lot of such parties: the tsar was overthrown and his whole party bye-bye. It's the same story with Kerensky. In addition, Platoshkin's party is not bye-bye, just all its actions are blocked (unlike the Communist Party of the Russian Federation).
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  I'm looking at the persecution mania.
                  No, familiarity with the current law enforcement. Not so long ago, a group of guys was turned up for much less radical calls than the creation of a militant revolutionary organization. Besides, it will never reach you: I just don't need a revolution right now. And to create a counter-revolutionary organization before the start of the revolution is not even postmodernism.
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  according to them, tiktoker fighters, I judge: name among them those who served in the army, which they despise.
                  No, here I will use your style: stop speaking for everyone, first prove that none of them served in the army, and then we will continue. PS mobilization documents go under the stamp, at least "C", so you again climb into criminality.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 1 March 2021 10: 11
                    -3
                    Quote: bk0010
                    ... It's the same story with Kerensky

                    go to school, ignoramus: Kerensky's party defeated the Bolsheviks in the world's first free national elections and he was elected a people's deputy.
                    Quote: bk0010
                    In addition, Platoshkin's game is not bye-bye, just all her actions are blocked.

                    on the table the facts of blocking, lies. And yes, on the table the number of party members (except for plateoshkin), its documents, organizational documents, an application for registration.

                    What no?

                    when you find, come, yes.
                    Quote: bk0010
                    No, familiarity with the current law enforcement. Not so long ago, a group of guys was turned up for much less radical calls than the creation of a militant revolutionary organization.

                    for much MORE radical calls, the vasalbatsy-gozmans-venekiktovs, etc., write absolutely calmly, chat and do not sit.

                    Quote: bk0010
                    In addition, it will not reach you in any way: revolution I just don't need it right now. And create a counterrevolutionary organization before revolution it's not even postmodernism.

                    what nonsense? belay
                    Quote: bk0010
                    No, here I will use your style: stop speaking for everyone, first prove that none of them served in the army, and then we will continue.

                    where am I talking ... from everyone? belay fool

                    your titoker Kievsky-jumper on the FSB - from Ukraine (in the world Lakeyev and openly gay) -fled from being drafted into the army. Fiercely supported by you and yours.

                    Regarding the attitude of the rest of the fat hamsters to the Russian army, read in their and your social networks, I disdain to poke around in this garbage.
                    1. bk0010
                      bk0010 1 March 2021 21: 02
                      +1
                      go to school, ignoramus: Kerensky's party defeated the Bolsheviks in the world's first free national elections and he was elected a people's deputy.
                      No, this is for you to school, ignoramus. How long did his party last after Kerensky fled? It was about this.
                      on the table the facts of blocking, lies. And yes, on the table the number of party members (except for plateoshkin), its documents, organizational documents, an application for registration.
                      Have you forgotten how to Google? Okay, I'll google for you: Socialist Party of the Russian Federation. The Socialist Party of the Russian Federation was created on the basis of the movement For New Socialism. The founding congress of the party was held on October 17, 2020. The congress was attended by delegates from 53 constituent entities of the Russian Federation, who unanimously voted for the creation of the party. [25] [26] On October 23, 2020, registration documents were submitted to the Ministry of Justice. However, in December 2020, the Ministry of Justice refused to register the party. [27]
                      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/За_новый_социализм#Социалистическая_партия_Российской_Федерации
                      for much MORE radical calls, the vasalbatsy-gozmans-venekiktovs, etc., write absolutely calmly, chat and do not sit.
                      No, the albatsy-gozmans-venekiktovs are yours, they are sitting in the suction of Gazprom, showing the unpleasant snout of the liberal-"crust-bakers", so they are not touched. And you read about the New Greatness case, when the provocateurs, in order to get the next titles, began to conduct provocative correspondence with each other and framed innocent guys, announcing that they were in the same gang with the provocateurs.
                      what nonsense?
                      You will grow up, you will understand.
                      where am I talking ... from everyone?
                      Right here:
                      according to them, tiktoker fighters, I judge: name among them those who served in the army, which they despise.

                      your titoker Kievsky-jumper on the FSB - from Ukraine (in the world Lakeyev and openly gay) -fled from being drafted into the army. Fiercely supported by you and yours.
                      So what? Is he everything? By the way, Zverev, Peskov and Moiseev served in the army, but Baluev, Valuev and Rastorguev did not.
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 2 March 2021 07: 27
                        -2
                        Quote: bk0010
                        No, this is for you to school, ignoramus. How long did his party last after Kerensky fled?

                        this party is the WINNER of the elections, ignorant.

                        Kerensky was elected a people's deputy after the "flight", don’t know.

                        It existed for years, before the physical destruction by bandits in power
                        Quote: bk0010
                        However, in December 2020, the Ministry of Justice refused to register the party. [27]
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/

                        roll up this "source" and there it, yes. submit a document of the denial and the reasons.

                        2 June 2020 year Platoshkin announced that he will lead the party "Alternative for Russia (Party of Socialist Choice) ", which officially registered by the Ministry of Justice. -so how many parties does he have? lol
                        Quote: bk0010
                        And you read about the New Greatness case, when the provocateurs, in order to get the next titles, began to conduct provocative correspondence with each other and framed innocent guys, announcing that they were in the same gang with the provocateurs.

                        this nude, invented by yours, read it yourself. As well as your gozmans.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Grow up, you will understand

                        personal experience? lol

                        Quote: bk0010
                        where am I talking ... from everyone?
                        Right here:
                        according to them, tiktoker fighters, I judge: name among them those who served in the army, which they despise.

                        Russian, look, a foreign language?

                        From the first person (i.e. from me alone) the word is written "I judge". Got it, no?
                        Quote: bk0010
                        So what? Is he everything?

                        read your fighters in your social networks your wolves, zhdanov nalnye and other trash-they did not serve in the army and despise it. platoshkin - also did NOT serve
                      2. bk0010
                        bk0010 2 March 2021 23: 56
                        +2
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        this party is the WINNER of the elections, ignorant.
                        Kerensky was elected a people's deputy after the "flight", don’t know.
                        Well, name this party, what elections did it take part in, how did the fugitive chairman of the interim government suddenly become a deputy and a deputy of what?
                        roll up this "source" and there it, yes. submit a document of refusal and reasons
                        What, a piece of paper? Seriously? Or do you think the Ministry of Justice puts its work on the Internet? The reasons are the most absurd, such as those who created the party had no right to do so, that there are few branches (and those that do exist are not counted), etc.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        personal experience?
                        Timid hope.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        this nude, invented by yours, read it yourself. As well as your gozmans.
                        Eck manages you from the truth. And Gozman is yours, the modern pop Gapon, on the contrary: he was leading, and Gozman is trying to show by his example how bad the dissatisfied, your colleague, also works so that they do not interfere with stealing.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        From the first person (ie from me alone) the word "I judge" is written. Got it, didn't it?
                        It was written about everyone, it came, didn't it?
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        read your fighters in your social networks your wolves, zhdanov nalnye and other trash-they did not serve in the army and despise it. platoshkin - also did NOT serve
                        Well, you are probably supposed to read them, the rest abstain.
                      3. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 3 March 2021 10: 58
                        -1
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Well, name this party, what elections did it take part in, how did the fugitive chairman of the interim government suddenly become a deputy and a deputy of what?

                        I see that you are not able to understand anything the first time: the CP party victorious the world's first national elections to the US, and Kerensky people's deputy from the Saratov constituency
                        Quote: bk0010
                        What, a piece of paper? Seriously? Or do you think the Ministry of Justice puts its work on the Internet? The reasons are the most absurd, such as those who created the party had no right to do so, that there are few branches (and those that do exist are not counted), etc.

                        so do not spread your empty bolt about your speculations, but come with the documents
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Timid hope.

                        yes, yes: "the hopes of the senile are nourished, the elders are given joy" yes
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Eck manages you from the truth.

                        you have no "truth", you have only speculation, hysteria, lies and hysterics
                        Quote: bk0010
                        And Gozman is yours

                        gozmans, albats, you, rozhkins and others - in a single formation, yes
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Well, you are probably supposed to read them, the rest abstain.

                        why don't you want to know their opinion and status regarding military service?

                        yes, because you yourself are perfectly aware that among fatty wrestlers-muscovites who have served in the army cannot be by definition
                      4. bk0010
                        bk0010 3 March 2021 23: 30
                        0
                        I see you are not able to understand anything the first time: the SR party is the winner of the world's first national elections to the US, and Kerensky people's deputy from the Saratov constituency
                        And, so you again started your hurdy-gurdy about the constituent assembly ... I was thinking about something significant.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        so do not spread your empty bolt about your speculations, but come with the documents
                        Your attempts to get out are pathetic. For example, read: https://news-socialism.su/minyust-ozhidaemo-otkazal-v-registraczii-partii-sprf-reshenie-czk-sprf-partii-byt/
                        yes, yes: "the hopes of the senile are nourished, the elders are given joy"
                        Are you saying that you are all ... hopeless?
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        you have no "truth", you have only speculation, hysteria, lies and hysteria
                        What the hell are you talking about? Where did you get all this? I absolutely calmly enlighten you about the real situation in the country and the world. Is it painful to break your stereotypes?
                        gozmans, albats, you, rozhkins and others - in a single formation, yes
                        You do not love your comrades-in-arms, abandon them ... This is not good. Doing one thing.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Yes, because you yourself are well aware that among the fat fighters, cut-off Muscovites who have served in the army cannot be, by definition
                        Again, unfounded generalizations. "What is your evidence"? Links to a couple of ZhZhshechek are not enough, prove them all.
                      5. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 4 March 2021 10: 12
                        -1
                        Quote: bk0010
                        And, so you again started your hurdy-gurdy about the constituent assembly ... I was thinking about something significant.

                        I answered YOUR ignorant question about
                        where the party and Kerensky won AFTER the thief:
                        Quote: bk0010
                        So name this party, in which elections she participated as the fugitive chairman of the interim government suddenly became a deputy and a deputy of which?

                        And these elections became the ONLY significant and popular elections in the history of the country for 70+ years and won them
                        KERENSKY and SR.

                        And your cowards were afraid of popular elections to death and never held them ..
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Your attempts to get out are pathetic. For example, read: https://news-socialism.su/minyust-ozhidaemo-otkazal-v-registraczii-partii-sprf-reshenie-czk-sprf-partii-byt/

                        1. My phrase you quoted was a response to the nonsense about some young tebils, allegedly "closed"

                        2. According to the so-called "the party-Ministry of Justice clearly prescribed-WHAT needs to be done for registration. WHAT is not clear?

                        You just need to tear off the fat from the sofa and work ahead!

                        Shaw, does Zarathustra not allow? lol

                        And yes, who needs to "stop" the next marginals? lol

                        Quote: bk0010
                        What the hell are you talking about? Where did you get all this? I am absolutely calm enlighten you

                        lol Has anyone ever met a psycho who considers himself ... psycho? Not?
                        Think yes.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Are you saying that you are all ... hopeless?

                        learn what "second person" means in linguistics and such questions will not arise
                        Quote: bk0010
                        You do not love your comrades-in-arms, abandon them ... This is not good. Doing one thing.

                        these are all YOUR companions: you say the same thing.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Again, unfounded generalizations. "What is your evidence"? Links to a couple of ZhZhshechek are not enough, prove them all.

                        Why do I need you what .. to prove? belay :

                        Are you ... who, nobody?

                        You are given a well-known FACT, and what it will cause in yours, lol um, yes, absolutely, yes
                      6. bk0010
                        bk0010 4 March 2021 20: 32
                        -1
                        I answered YOUR ignorant question about where the party and Kerensky won AFTER the thief:
                        So-so victory: "the guard was tired" and everyone dispersed. Who would have carried out their decisions if they themselves did not continue elsewhere?
                        And these elections became the ONLY significant and popular elections in the history of the country for 70+ years.
                        Yes? So what is the significance of these elections? What have they influenced, what have they changed? By the way, the winners of these elections clashed with the Bolsheviks, but not at all because of the CA (Rybinsk, Yaroslavl, remember?), Which once again underlines the real "importance" of these elections.
                        And your cowards were afraid of popular elections to death and did not hold them even once.
                        Let me just remind you that these "cowards" defeated everyone. Let me also remind you about the Congress of People's Deputies (where Yeltsin was elected). By the way, are there many elections that influenced something, were held by your beloved Romanovs? The dispersed thoughts should not be offered: there was no more sense from those elections (choose, don't choose reality) than from the communist ones, of which there were many.
                        1. My phrase you quoted was a response to the nonsense about some young tebils, allegedly "closed"
                        Why "ostensibly"? Do you have proof that they were not planted?
                        2. According to the so-called "the party-Ministry of Justice clearly prescribed-WHAT needs to be done for registration. WHAT is not clear?
                        And everything that was written was done. And what's the point?
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        And yes, who needs to "stop" the next marginals?
                        Duc, the marginals are already in power, it is they who are ripping apart the country and persecuting those who want to stop them.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Has anyone ever met a psycho who considers himself ... psycho? Not? Think about it, yes.
                        You would seem to a specialist: drawing conclusions without facts is an unhealthy sign.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        learn what "second person" means in linguistics and such questions will not arise
                        It is clear that you have no critical perception.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        these are all YOUR companions: you say the same thing.
                        No, it's all yours: you are jointly trying to discredit people who are unpleasant for the current camarilla.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Why do I need you what .. to prove? belay:
                        Are you ... who, nobody?
                        The drain is counted.
                      7. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 4 March 2021 21: 26
                        -2
                        Quote: bk0010
                        So-so victory: "the guard was tired" and everyone dispersed. Who would have carried out their decisions if they themselves did not continue elsewhere?

                        the real victory is the people's one.

                        And the "victory" of the guard was defeat countries - see the extinction of the people, coupons for cowards and a geopolitical catastrophe- to 91 year.

                        So there was a victory for the people, but stolen bandits.

                        By the way, most loldeputies members lol vkpbe-were soon killed by their "goods in the fight
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Yes? So what is the significance of these elections? What have they influenced, what have they changed?

                        -the meaning is fateful, they gave a CHANCE to avoid the BATTLE, "to fight" in the Assembly, and not with clubs on the heads, as they chose yours neanderthals

                        -Changed EVERYTHING-the GW slaughter began, cannibalism and corpse-eating.
                        Few?
                        Quote: bk0010
                        By the way, the winners of these elections fought with the Bolsheviks.

                        belay lol
                        yes you are not "copenhagen" at all, it turns out lol : grappled just allies in the US - Left Socialist-Revolutionaries and Bolsheviks, who TOGETHER dissolved the US and could not argue about it in principle, but fought for power.

                        Quote: bk0010
                        Let me just remind you that these "cowards" defeated everyone.

                        belay
                        Yes? And .... WHERE are they, huh? lol Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo where are you?! belay request

                        Ah .... Choy ... you can't see ANYONE! As they splashed, like cockroaches in the light in the kitchen at 91 g, so ... not to be seen until now yes lol
                        Quote: bk0010
                        By the way, are there many elections that influenced something, were held by your beloved Romanovs?


                        в a million times more than "cowards", because there was (remember such an unusual and unfamiliar word for you) CHOICE
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Why "ostensibly"? Do you have proof that they were not planted?

                        у you have no proof their innocence
                        Quote: bk0010
                        And everything that was written was done. And what's the point?

                        did not have.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Duc, the marginals are already in power, it is they who are ripping apart the country and persecuting those who want to stop them.

                        the government has a LEGAL, popularly elected government.

                        Who does not like it, tears off the fat from the sofa, and ahead to the elections and parties, according to the LAW!

                        YOUR rains, ehi, gozmans, rashkovs, you- calmly vilify the authorities and carry whatever they want about it, but no one is closed and does not sit, incl. and yes

                        And, judging by the screams, about the rypress, they should. An .... no belay
                        Quote: bk0010
                        You would seem to a specialist:

                        I don't send you to the specialists, it's useless request
                        Quote: bk0010
                        No, it's all yours: you are jointly trying to discredit people who are unpleasant for the current camarilla.

                        yours, yours: both you and they carry the same nonsense.
                        -word by word
                        Quote: bk0010
                        The drain is counted.

                        lol laughing go to your fat wolf (Zhdanov and the gozmans) and ask how much it cost them from the army to kill
                      8. bk0010
                        bk0010 5 March 2021 20: 00
                        -1
                        the real victory is the people's one.
                        And the "victory" of the guard turned out to be the defeat of the country - see. the extinction of the people, coupons for cowards and a geopolitical catastrophe - by the year 91.
                        So there was a victory of the people, but stolen by the bandits.
                        So the people won!
                        By the way, most of the lol deputies of the lol VKPB members were soon killed by their "goods in the fight"
                        Well, firstly, not "soon", and secondly, "So what?". This speaks of the uncompromising nature of their struggle for the people's happiness.
                        -the meaning of the fateful-they gave a CHANCE to avoid slaughter,, "to fight" in the Assembly, and not with clubs on the heads, as your Neanderthals have chosen
                        -Changed EVERYTHING-the GW slaughter began, cannibalism and corpse-eating.
                        Few?
                        Once again: they (DC) had no strength, none of their decisions mattered. If you had gone through the constituent assembly to the end, nothing would have changed, since those behind whom there was power would have begun to implement their plans, not those of the deputy.
                        yes, you are not "Copenhagen" at all, it turns out lol: it was just the allies in the US that fought - the Left Socialist-Revolutionaries and the Bolsheviks, who TOGETHER dissolved the US and could not argue about it in principle, but clashed for power
                        I am aware that you wrote that the SR won the elections to the US, and Kerensky is a deputy from the SR, so I drew your attention to the fact that the SRs won the elections and, nevertheless, did not oppose the dispersal of the US. Which "confirms" the most important role of the US (sarcasm).
                        Yes? And .... WHERE are they, huh? lol Oo-oo-oo-oo !! where are you?! belay request
                        Ah .... Choy ... you can't see ANYONE! As they splashed, like cockroaches in the light in the kitchen at 91 g, and .... not seen so far yes
                        They handed over power at the request of the people. What are you dissatisfied with? This can only be knocked off yours by revolution.
                        a million times more than "cows", because there was (remember such an unusual and unfamiliar word for you) CHOICE
                        Yes? We list! And there was a choice in Soviet times: to check the box or not is also a choice.
                        you have no proof of their innocence
                        And the investigation had no evidence of their guilt. So what? "Facts are stubborn things, but we are not bastard!" the investigators said and the guys sat down.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Who does not like it, tears off the fat from the sofa, and ahead to the elections and parties, according to the LAW!
                        He gave the same example that people "tore the fat from the sofa" for the election according to the law and they were sent.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        YOUR rains, ekhi, gozmans, rashkovs, you calmly vilify the authorities and carry whatever they want about it, but no one is closed and does not sit, incl. and yes
                        No, only yours, those to whom the government pays for it, calmly revile the authorities. And those who begin to speak the truth at the behest of the soul end up behind bars. Examples are Kungurov, Platoshkin.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        I don't send you to the specialists, it's useless
                        Well, yes: there is no need to treat healthy people.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        yours, yours: both you and they are carrying the same nonsense.
                        -word by word
                        Yes? Give me and their matching quotes, word for word.
                      9. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 6 March 2021 09: 22
                        -1
                        Quote: bk0010
                        So the people won!

                        in the elections, yes, he won, but he lost to a bandit with a club.

                        When you will be so bludgeoned in the gateway, remember that he is right, because he turned out to be stronger.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Well, firstly, not "soon", and secondly, "So what?". This speaks of the uncompromising nature of their struggle for the people's happiness.

                        This suggests that some spiders EATED their own, the same, spiders in the bank.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Once again: they (DC) had no strength, none of their decisions mattered. If you had gone through the constituent assembly to the end, nothing would have changed, since those behind whom there was power would have begun to implement their plans, not those of the deputy.

                        this is your reasoning dunno: the power of the US was recognized by EVERYONE, incl. and the Bolsheviks have not yet committed a crime, having lost

                        NOBODY challenged his power. neither the workers, nor the peasants, nor the state.

                        Only bandits-and thus unleashed a BATTLE with 14 million victims-10% of the country's population
                        Quote: bk0010
                        They handed over power at the request of the people. What are you dissatisfied with? This can only be knocked off yours by revolution.

                        They ROTTED and could not transfer anything - they just ... were gone.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Yes? We list! And there was a choice in Soviet times: to check the box or not is also a choice.

                        eat / don't eat: too ... choice, yes lol laughing
                        Quote: bk0010
                        And the investigation had no evidence of their guilt. So what? "Facts are stubborn things, but we are not bastard!" the investigators said and the guys sat down.

                        sat on proven court crime.
                        Challenge - Today is not your 1937
                        Quote: bk0010
                        He gave the same example that people "tore the fat from the sofa" for the election according to the law and they were sent.

                        Where is the example? He's gone.

                        The fat one is there, on the couch. Or where is the writing from?
                        Quote: bk0010
                        No, only yours, those to whom the government pays for it, calmly revile the authorities. And those who begin to speak the truth at the behest of the soul end up behind bars. Examples are Kungurov, Platoshkin.

                        themselves ... vilify? fool
                        This is what you do, right?

                        by the way, you are not sitting. And why?
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Well, yes: there is no need to treat healthy people.

                        exactly what every indignant patient of special houses says
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Yes? Give me and their matching quotes, word for word.

                        The Camarilla is in power - whose nonsense?
                      10. bk0010
                        bk0010 6 March 2021 22: 17
                        -1
                        in the elections, yes, he won, but he lost to a bandit with a club.
                        You are all confusing: no one knows who won the elections, and the people won the Civil War.
                        This suggests that some spiders EATED their own, the same, spiders in the bank.
                        Yes, you should rejoice: justice has triumphed.
                        NOBODY challenged his power. neither the workers, nor the peasants, nor the state.
                        Yes, because there was nothing to dispute - there is no power without strength.
                        Only bandits-and thus unleashed a BATTLE with 14 million victims-10% of the country's population
                        Yes, the bandits unleashed a massacre against the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks did not need the Civil War, the power was already with them.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Challenge - Today is not your 1937
                        Yes, in 2016 the number of acquittals was 0.36%, and in 1937 - 10.3%.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Where is the example? He's gone.
                        Does your memory fail? I repeat: the fate of the party "For New Socialism" is quite a sufficient example of the effectiveness of registration of non "court" parties.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        themselves ... vilify? fool
                        This is what you do, right?
                        Discredit those on behalf of whom they revile. It's like Hitler fired on his border guards and blamed them on the Poles. Is it clear now?
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        exactly what every indignant patient of special houses says
                        Oh, do you already know everyone there? Noticeable.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        The Camarilla is in power - whose nonsense?
                        The Camarilla in power is not nonsense, but reality. Again, the drain is counted.
                      11. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 7 March 2021 11: 32
                        -1
                        Quote: bk0010
                        You are all confusing: no one knows who won the elections, and the people won the Civil War.

                        PEOPLE won the elections -more than 50% took part in the elections and only ... 5% - in GW

                        Has it come or again ... not? lol
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Yes, you should rejoice: justice has triumphed.

                        for me, yes, it's yours that ate themselves.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Yes, because there was nothing to dispute - there is no power without strength.

                        And with whom did your ... fought for another 20 years (and never won)? belay
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Yes, the bandits unleashed a massacre against the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks did not need the Civil War, the power was already with them.

                        foolYou are generally ignorant- Power was NOT with them: they seized it by force from the VP and the US, recognized by everyone and even by the Soviets.

                        Russia stood up against the usurpers.

                        and yes, almost the whole country SENDED them from the first day: Moscow, Little Russia, Don, Orenburg region, Kuban, Terek, Siberia, Poaolzhye - the GW began
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Yes, in 2016 the number of acquittals was 0.36%, and in 1937 - 10.3%.

                        yes, in 1937, they destroyed everyone who wanted and for what they wanted-troikas, VK, Collegiums, etc. VNEJUDICIAL ANTI-constitutional abomination. It is a pity, you will not get to the top three for its usual 10-minute "analysis" of the case. Will you go to the court of the troika, hypocrite?
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Does your memory fail? I repeat: the fate of the party "For New Socialism" is quite a sufficient example of the effectiveness of registration of non "court" parties.

                        Didn't get it? Follow the instructions of the Ministry of Justice and the next CLOWNS for registering - let them somersault for the amusement of the public
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Discredit those on behalf of whom they revile. It's like Hitler fired on his border guards and blamed them on the Poles. Is it clear now?

                        Polyakov destroyed... Your Gozmans-Albats ... are quietly chatting on. What are you carrying? fool
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Oh, do you already know everyone there? Noticeable.

                        exactly what he says each special home patient
                        Quote: bk0010
                        The Camarilla in power is not nonsense, but reality.

                        It popularly elected legal authority

                        unlike your Albatsev camarilla.

                        once again: you are not sitting. And why?

                        the drain is not counted lol
                      12. bk0010
                        bk0010 7 March 2021 12: 35
                        -1
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        PEOPLE won the elections -more than 50% took part in the elections and only ... 5% - in GW
                        It was not the people who won the elections, but all the crooks who deceived the people. In GV, 5% could not win against 95%. So it was the people who won the GW.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        And with whom did your ... fought for another 20 years (and never won)? belay
                        With all sorts of bandits.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        foolYou are generally ignorant- Power was NOT with them: they seized it by force from the VP and the US, recognized by everyone and even by the Soviets.
                        After the VOSR, they had power, there was no point in starting the Civil War for the Bolsheviks.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Russia stood up against the usurpers.
                        and yes, almost the whole country SENDED them from the first day: Moscow, Little Russia, Don, Orenburg region, Kuban, Terek, Siberia, Poaolzhye - the GW began
                        Again? Okay: we google "the triumphal march of Soviet power", we are enlightened.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        yes, in 1937, they destroyed everyone who wanted and for what they wanted-troikas, VK, Collegiums, etc. VNEJUDICIAL ANTI-constitutional abomination. It is a pity, you will not get to the top three for its usual 10-minute "analysis" of the case. Will you go to the court of the troika, hypocrite?
                        So, on the numbers, there are no objections, good. Previously, there were three, but now the judge makes one sentence, almost always guilty (acquittals are a statistical error). Better now, are you our Pharisee?
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Didn't get it? Follow the instructions of the Ministry of Justice and the next CLOWNS for registering - let them somersault for the amusement of the public
                        You repeat yourself. Well, and I will repeat: all the instructions of the Ministry of Justice were fulfilled, the results of the execution were ignored by the Ministry of Justice.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Polyakov destroyed... Your Gozmans-Albats ... are quietly chatting on. What are you carrying? fool
                        Your gozmans, the Albats did not destroy the Poles (or proofs in the studio), I bear the truth.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        exactly what he says each special home patient
                        How do you know them all, you shouldn't be let out of there?
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        It popularly elected legal authority
                        unlike your Albatsev camarilla.
                        The album is yours, the camarilla is also yours. The nationwide election in 2000 raises no questions, but the latter is doubtful (no, not the result, but the numbers).
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        once again: you are not sitting. And why?
                        Not allowed.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        the drain is not counted lol
                        Count, don't worry.
                      13. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 7 March 2021 15: 53
                        0
                        Quote: bk0010
                        It was not the people who won the elections, but any crooks who deceived the people.

                        crooks: -your ulyanovs-bronsteins: cheated on the elections, for which .... the thief committed and plunged the country into a massacre
                        Quote: bk0010
                        In GV, 5% could not win against 95%. So it was the people who won the GW.

                        95% tried to SURVIVE. The bandits won - for cruelty, cynicism, deceit. ... The numbers are known to everyone but you.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        With all sorts of bandits.

                        you have as many "enemies" as no other country in the world has ever had: show in which country 640 thousand people were shot in peacetime in a year fool 1937 * 38g
                        Quote: bk0010
                        After the VOSR, they had power, there was no point in starting the Civil War for the Bolsheviks.

                        was not, they were sent to Moscow, Little Russia, Don, Orenburg region, Kuban, Terek, Siberia, Poaolzhye - the GV began - just read the REAL history, and not that your comrade, where in 1933 fat wealthy collective farmers flourished, and did not die by millions from hunger, eating corpses, as in the real story.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        So, on the numbers, there are no objections, good. Previously, there were three, but now the judge makes one sentence, almost always guilty (acquittals are a statistical error). Better now, are you our Pharisee?

                        hypocrite, will you go to TROIKA, if you suddenly got there on a denunciation? Without a lawyer, an appeal, a trial, the last word - in ten minutes - to the watchtower?
                        Quote: bk0010
                        You repeat yourself. Well, and I will repeat: all the instructions of the Ministry of Justice were fulfilled, the results of the execution were ignored by the Ministry of Justice.

                        ON THE TABLE official ignorance of accomplishments, liar.

                        No? Come when you find it.
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Your gozmans, the Albats did not destroy the Poles (or proofs in the studio), I bear the truth.

                        Hitler destroyed.
                        but the power of your Albatians is not.

                        Hitch
                        Quote: bk0010
                        How do you know them all, you shouldn't be let out of there?

                        yourself ... don't remember?
                        Yeah ....You released-you and told-see. higher
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        once again: you are not sitting. And why?
                        Not allowed.

                        But what about .... the most severe "repressions" against you, an ardent fighter against the authorities? Or .. a liar, as always

                        In the FSB, yes, write that you are a critic and an implacable opponent of the authorities and demand a change of the regime.

                        I think that you are being "repressed", but not on political grounds, but on medical grounds - to the very house from which you were so recklessly released. lol
                      14. bk0010
                        bk0010 7 March 2021 20: 02
                        -1
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        I think that you are being "repressed", but not on political grounds, but on medical grounds - to the very house from which you were so recklessly released.
                        Okay, already on the third round went, you ignore the facts, you continue to be rude all the time. Conclusion: "the patient" (this is you, if you suddenly did not understand) is stubborn and goes "to the stump" (for treatment).
                      15. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 8 March 2021 08: 52
                        +1
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Okay, already on the third circle we went

                        Yes, it comes to you hard request lol
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Conclusion: "the patient" stubs and goes "to the stump" (for treatment).

                        It was not necessary for me to inform about Your plans to be treated, but, in any case, success in this rewarding, but hopeless business.

                        And also, from March 8, you and all sorts of women's joys! hi
  • Overlock
    Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 45
    +9
    Quote: Olgovich
    I served in the army for several years and built not a house, but a whole small city - in total

    the houses have not collapsed yet?
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 1 March 2021 10: 15
      -4
      Quote: Overlock
      the houses have not collapsed yet?

      ask in Ministry of Defense of Russia, Ukraine and Moldova, as well as in their cities and villages - everything stands and works, yes ... yes
  • strannik1985
    strannik1985 28 February 2021 11: 52
    +3
    about who committed February

    Come on, it turns out the generals - the conspirators were Bolsheviks ??? good
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 28 February 2021 12: 46
      -12%
      Quote: strannik1985
      Come on, it turns out that the generals are conspirators.

      Tell us about the "conspiracy" of the generals - about the meetings of the conspirators in 1916-1917, the dates of the meetings and where, the minutes of the decisions of the conspiracy, its structure, when and what was decided, who was in charge, etc.

      Ahhh, don't you have anything?

      When you find it, come, yes ...

      You Stalin-can refute?

      Again ... no?

      belay
      1. strannik1985
        strannik1985 28 February 2021 12: 57
        +4
        Those. It was not the generals who tried to persuade Nicholas to abdicate? laughing Oh yes, he did it all by himself, made up all sorts of stupid things for himself good
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 1 March 2021 10: 18
          -5
          Quote: strannik1985
          Those. It was not the generals who tried to persuade Nicholas to abdicate? laughing Oh yes, he did it all by himself, made up all sorts of stupid things for himself good

          Quote: strannik1985
          Those. these are not generals at

          WHERE is the conspiracy, lie, I repeat?

          on the table documents about the meetings of the conspirators in 1916-1917, the dates of the meetings and where, the minutes of the decisions of the conspiracy, its structure, when and what was decided, who was in charge, etc.?

          No?

          I'm not holding you back, yes.
          1. Foul skeptic
            Foul skeptic 1 March 2021 13: 33
            +3
            documents on the meetings of the conspirators in 1916-1917, the dates of the meetings and where, conspiracy decision protocols, its structure, when and what was decided, who was in charge, etc.?

            Demanding minutes of meetings is a strong move wassat
            It's common practice for conspirators, of course. lol
          2. strannik1985
            strannik1985 1 March 2021 15: 34
            +1
            WHERE is the conspiracy, lie, I repeat?

            Super! Monarchist covering the people who overthrew the king good
            There is a fact of coercion to abdicate the throne, how the conspirators agreed - orally or with the minutes of the meetings, they talked in the smoking room and went ... no difference laughing
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 1 March 2021 16: 12
              -3
              Quote: strannik1985
              how the conspirators agreed - orally or with the minutes of the meetings, we talked in the smoking room and let's go ... no difference

              so tell me: in what smoking room, closet, corridor, and when, where, WHO, with witnesses, decisions, daily, hourly and minutely.

              Again, no?

              So, to freedom!

              you have already been told: find, come, and do not fool your head before that.
              1. strannik1985
                strannik1985 1 March 2021 16: 19
                0
                Again, no?

                That no? Generals not forced Nicholas II to abdicate the lordmonarchist? Do you deny the facts? laughing
  • New Year day
    New Year day 28 February 2021 17: 36
    +3
    Quote: Olgovich
    during such cataclysms, there is no time for doubts - everything should be directed towards Victory.

    Whom to win? -Nicholas II? Have mercy, did not he do everything with his entourage?
    Quote: Olgovich
    in 1991, yes, - WITHOUT any war, the completely rotten system collapsed under the weight of its own unsolvable problems, and it has been rotting since 1917.

    where did you get carried away! We are talking about RI, what does the USSR have to do with it?
    Quote: Olgovich
    He eventually came to ... a normal army, a professor of militia, courts and the NEP

    Is this a normal army that lost to the White Finns with huge winners?
    Is this a normal army, which in 5 months of the war withdrew to Moscow? Did it take 3 years to get back?
    Are these normal courts, where Meretskov's teeth were knocked out, and Korolev was in Magadan?
    Oxity!
    Quote: Olgovich
    Or do you call to learn from Lenin that wildest cruelty in the suppression of not just dissatisfied

    point this place in my post. You have a fever!
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 1 March 2021 10: 30
      -5
      Quote: Silvestr
      Whom to win?

      the Victory of Russia, if not reached: it was attacked by the German-Auto-Turkish aggressors, as in 1700, 1812,1854, 1945, XNUMX and in dozens of other wars.
      Quote: Silvestr
      Is this a normal army that lost to the White Finns with huge winners?
      Is this a normal army, which in 5 months of the war withdrew to Moscow? Did it take 3 years to get back?

      The Red Army since May 1918 is a normal army with forced conscription, obligatory subordination and titles, and not a voluntary armed half-gang with elected commanders offered by Lenin in April and September 1917.
      Quote: Silvestr
      Is this a normal army, which in 5 months of the war withdrew to Moscow? Did it take 3 years to get back?
      Are these normal courts, where Meretskov's teeth were knocked out, and Korolev was in Magadan?
      Oxity!

      this is an abnormal regime. His institutions are also appropriate for him.
      Okstyte
      Quote: Silvestr
      point this place in my post. You have a fever!

      don't remember yourself already? Here is this fever:
      Quote: Silvestr
      Lenin must it was at least read

  • Overlock
    Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 42
    +9
    Quote: Olgovich
    In 1917 there was an unprecedented world war in terms of cruelty and losses. At the same time, Russia is a unique warring NON-starving country (in Germany there are 800 corpses from hunger and there is definitely a more systemic crisis000 and there should be a revolution, but no))

    So continue your thought!
    Famine in the Volga region of 1921-1922 - mass famine during the Civil War in Russia in the territories controlled by the Bolsheviks. What caused it? According to official statistics, 35 provinces were affected by famine. 5 million died of hunger and your hated Americans helped and saved 11 million people. How did your Bolsheviks sell gold in exchange for grain? You either take off the crosses or put on panties
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 1 March 2021 11: 00
      -3
      Quote: Overlock
      Famine in the Volga region of 1921-1922 - mass famine during the Civil War in Russia in the territories controlled by the Bolsheviks. What caused it? FROM

      not by what, but by whom: the Bolsheviks, their robberies.
      Partly drought.
      Quote: Overlock
      5 million died of hunger and your hated americans helped and saved 11 million people. how your Bolsheviks sold gold in exchange for bread? You either take off the crosses or put on your panties

      belay fool

      Thanks to the Americans, Canadians, Germans, British, etc., for saving the Russians from starvation.

      And the Bolsheviks at that time, collected for the fight against hunger, distributed, ,,, to the Turks and for the world revolution
      Quote: Overlock

      What a deep thought! Explain.

      Again:
      what came true from his pre-VORvsky postulates-to dissolve the army and the police, the courts replacing them .... "universal arming of the people", workers' control and other nonsense? He eventually came to ... a normal army, a professor of militia, courts and the NEP.

      Quote: Overlock
      them, 15 million, only Lenin shot?

      HE started the GW and the atrocities in Russia - there were none before him: hack it on your forehead.
      Quote: Overlock
      Larisa Reisner

      who is interested in this ka? belay
      Quote: Overlock
      And if your monarch manager is a loser, that questions to him. It was not the ballerinas that had to be showered with diamonds, but the state should have been built. His mother had told him before accession to the throne that he would not be able to keep Russia. Mom always needs to listen!

      with this "loser" - in terms of the consumption of food, clothing, housing - the "lucky ones" reached the living standards of the people for 40 years, with ten million victims and suffering of the people.
      And they never caught up in freedom.

      It's just FACTS
      1. Foul skeptic
        Foul skeptic 1 March 2021 13: 36
        +2
        with this "loser" - in terms of the consumption of food, clothing, housing - the "lucky ones" reached the living standards of the people for 40 years, with ten million victims and suffering of the people.
        And they never caught up in freedom.

        Andrey, please name the population in 1940 and 1913 (within the borders of the USSR). I have already asked you, and you ignore my request.
  • Overlock
    Overlock 28 February 2021 21: 13
    +9
    Quote: Olgovich
    but how many millions have died while in the brains of the never-working and uncontrolled loafers something brightened up in the minds of the immutable truths?

    What a deep thought! Explain ...
    Quote: Olgovich
    and even potential disaffected, physically destroying not just enemies, but entire classes, banning all freedoms, newspapers, dissent, processions, parties, which led to 10-15 million victims of the Civil War?

    them, 15 million, only Lenin shot?
    Larisa Reisner: “The small screen that defended Shikhran was completely cut out by the Kappelites. Moreover, they overfished and destroyed all living things that inhabited the station. I had to see Shikhrana a few hours after the raid. Everything bore the features of that completely senseless, pogromous violence, which marked all the victories of these gentlemen. In the courtyard lay a brutally murdered (exactly killed, not slaughtered) cow, the chicken coop was full of absurdly slaughtered chickens. With a well, a small vegetable garden, a water pumping station and living quarters, they acted as if they were captured people, and moreover the Bolsheviks. Guts were released from everything. The animals lay gutted, hideously dead. Alongside this warpedness of everything that used to be a human settlement, the indescribable, unpronounceable death of several unaware railway employees and Red Army men seemed completely natural. Only in Goya's illustrations of the Spanish campaign and Guerilla can one find a similar harmony of trees bent to the side by the dark wind and the weight of those hanged, roadside dust, blood and stones. " Reisner L. Sviyazhsk (August - September 1918) // Proletarian revolution. 1923. No. 6-7. P. 183-184
    And if your monarch manager is a loser, that questions to him. It was not the ballerinas that had to be showered with diamonds, but the state should have been built. His mother had told him before accession to the throne that he would not be able to keep Russia. Mom always needs to listen!
  • Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 28 February 2021 12: 14
    -4
    Almost ANY problems of society can be successfully solved by the CORRECT use of force and other means. For example, attempts to shake China and arrange a Maidan there led to the following: a) Maidan workers were rolled into the asphalt with tanks. b) carried out a colossal purge in society and leadership. c) began to work (not unsuccessfully) to improve the standard of living. Example two. Post-war Germany. Devastation, chaos, corruption and inflation. Anarchists, communists and all sorts of others openly revolt. The government washed its hands, but Freikorps was created, which very quickly shot and hung especially violent protestors (together with those who stood nearby ... they also hung nearby ... as in a joke). I will also remind you of peasant uprisings, strikes, strikes in England and Ireland, and the United States. For example, when in the United States, rebellious miners, together with their families, were shot by the brave American National Guard from machine guns of potato diggers. You know, it helped. There were no more particularly stormy strikes, if only because conditions gradually began to improve. Although VERY gradually. But the memory of the machine-gun fire on the miners and their families was so strong that in the 30s, during the "Dust Bowl" and the depression, there were NO major riots in the USA. Despite the massive hunger and poverty (The Americans still cannot clearly say how many people died from hunger. Like no one counted. ") Although the people had weapons in their hands, they had DOOFIGA. They just understood that NOBODY would stand on ceremony with them. England was even worse. So forceful solutions to problems work. Especially in combination with "gingerbread." streets and to engage in Maidan and ride on the Maidan like baboons will pass very quickly. For example, in the USA already in the 70s-80s, when the Black Panthers movement lost their shores too much, the assembled Panthers were simply burned with a bomb from a helicopter. Without ceremony. - then these "Panthers" were afraid to even sneeze in the wrong way. When the Abkhazians in the USSR asked to be annexed to the Krasnodar Territory, the local head of the District Committee said "Do you want you to be annexed to the Krasnodar Territory? Well, scatter from here, until I attached you to the Krasnoyarsk Territory. "And everything calmed down. Everyone understood that if they vyakut something, they will be attached to Yakutia. Therefore, POWER methods work. But only when if the brow has something to lose. If people all the same knows that he will die of hunger, then he will go to the National Guard with a baseball bat. And if, like the "intelligentsia", it is snickering, that in 1917 that now. head, and naturally all the shit from the head will return to its rightful place in the ass. " Nothing brings a person to a normal state of mind and soul like zvizdyuli from a sergeant in training or zvizdyuly from the police.
    1. bk0010
      bk0010 28 February 2021 16: 47
      +3
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      So forceful solutions to problems work.
      Not always. Take the French Revolution. Or February (where the troops were on the side of the rebels). Here who will take it.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 28 February 2021 17: 19
      +3
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      Almost ANY problems of society can be successfully solved by the CORRECT use of force and other means.

      As part of LAW !!! yes
      And laws should be passed not in the interests of a group of snickering scoundrels, but in the interests of the majority of the country's population. This is what is called democracy: my elected depots adopt the laws I need, and do not buy up to 5 thousand dollars. for the vote.
      On the use of force.
      Enter an emergency or martial law - and act, again - BY LAW!
      About power.
      In Russia, power can be of any kind. Only WEAK it cannot be! And it must act within the framework of the CONSTITUTION of our country.
      Everything is elementary, Watson! (from)
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 28 February 2021 21: 47
        -1
        The law is that the tongue, where he turned, went there. And you can write any nonsense. See Constitution of the Weinmar Republic. Elections are held almost every year. In Britain, it was LEGAL during riots and strikes for the sheriff or someone else to order the people to disperse ONCE. If the people refused, the judge or the sheriff had the FULL right to give the order to shoot-to-kill. The shooting of miners and their families in the United States with machine guns by the National Guard was also completely legal. It is necessary not to blindly act the law, but to achieve RESULTS. "Laws and treaties are pieces of paper that are not worth the ink they are written with." - Otto Von Bismarck. MAIN RESULT. As you know, winners are not judged. "History will favor me as I intend to write it" - Lord Marlborough Winston Churchill.
        Democracy, at the moment - the power of cattle and mediocrity. The average voter cannot balance the family budget. The average voter does not know the difference between Franklin Roosevelt and Theodore Roosevelt and believes that Groucho Marx and Karl Marx are related. The average voter knows neither the history nor the geography of their country. Whom can such a stupid person choose? Elections, elections (we all know who the candidates are) have long turned into a farce, a competition in popularity and the ability to lie and pour slop on the enemy. See Mark Twain, "How I Was Elected to Governor." This is a show, this is a farce. Your deputies are a cut of YOUR society, they did not come to you from Nibiru, they did not come to you on the bayonets of the Wehrmacht, NATO and the IDF. Your thieves and bribe-takers deputies are a cut of YOUR society. What is the pop, so is the parish.
        Democracy works when the level of education has reached such heights that "every cook can run the state." You do not take advice on how to live from some kind of drunk loser? You won't listen to a shoemaker's advice on how to do heart surgery. Why, then, follow the advice of an uneducated cattle on how to rule the state? Why is the voice of a homeless drunk equal to the voice of a neurosurgeon, nuclear physicist or fighter pilot?
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 28 February 2021 23: 53
          -1
          Dmitry, in Israel, apparently, everything is different: as it is written in the Torah!
          But let's talk about the essence of your comments ... (I know that the polite form of address --You-- is written with a capital, not a lowercase letter ...)
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          The law is that the tongue, where he turned, went there. And you can write any nonsense. See Constitution of the Weinmar Republic.

          1. A proverb is good for the "masses", not for the legislator.
          2. The level of lawmaking corresponds to the level of the body adopting such a law.
          3. You would also remember about the "Republic of SHKID" ...
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          It is necessary not to blindly act the law, but to achieve RESULTS.
          This is if you will be allowed to make a SUPERIOR class! For: The law is an expression of the will of the classes that have won the victory and hold the state power in their hands. (Lenin V.I., The agrarian program of social democracy in the first Russian revolution of 1905-1907.) The ruling (ruling) class adopts such laws that provide it with the result ...
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          MAIN RESULT. As you know, winners are not judged.
          We have already gone through this ... So Napoleon, Hitler, Basayev and others thought so ...
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          Democracy, at the moment - the power of cattle and mediocrity.
          But! Are you talking about the Israeli people?
          And we do not have the power of the PEOPLE yet. We have capitalists in power, they own the main property. They pursue their policy through the laws of the state ... For: "Politics is the most concentrated expression of the economy."
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          The average voter knows neither the history nor the geography of their country. Whom can such a stupid person choose?
          Elections, elections (we all know who the candidates are) have long turned into a farce, a competition in popularity and the ability to lie and pour slop on the enemy.
          Fairly, basically ... But ours is somewhat better than in the States or in Ukraine ... In our country, at least everyone puts the ballot into the ballot box, but the Yankees are deprived of this. But they are an example of democracy, exceptional, you have it in general - God's chosen ones !!!
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          Your deputies are a cut of YOUR society ... Your thieves and bribe-takers deputies are a cut of YOUR society. What is the pop, so is the parish.
          ... You are dissembling, dear! This is M.V. Frunze spoke about the Army. There is no need to interpret the words of the commander ... The structure of the SOCIETY and the ELECTIVE body differ significantly: in terms of property qualification, age, gender, educational, nationality, etc. grounds ... And thieves and bribe-takers are caught, deprived of parliamentary immunity and imprisoned.
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          Democracy works when the level of education has reached such heights that "every cook can run the state."

          1. Democracy works when we have national ownership of the subsoil, the means of production, and so on ...
          2. At the expense of the cook Ulyanov got very excited. The cook can cook food, which she should do, preferably - in good faith!
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          Why is the voice of a homeless drunk equal to the voice of a neurosurgeon, nuclear physicist or fighter pilot?

          Because we have universal equal suffrage. And one voter has one vote.
          But the social VALUE of these people is certainly different.
          You are an interesting conversationalist, but I have no time to discuss with you.
          Yours faithfully, hi
          1. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 1 March 2021 02: 48
            +1
            What does Israel have to do with it? I like Israel on a drum and even a tambourine. Together with the Torah and Talmud. I am in the USA. By the way, everything that I said about your "shitty chosen of two or more assholes" applies to us. And the further the more I become convinced that democracy is the power of a stupid cattle, and the law and the constitution are not worth the ink with which they are written, which was shown by the elections in the USA. There is even a show about our voters, the World of Water, where "everyone's stupidity" is openly shown. When Economics students don't know what inflation and denomination are ...
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 1 March 2021 17: 15
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              Quote: Baron Pardus
              Together with the Torah and Talmud. I am in the USA.
              "Well, excuse me, I made a mistake!" (C) laughing
              And this is not surprising: a Jew is in the USA! It's even logical!
              Why a Jew? Because you have to be very "dumkopf" in order not to read your nickname correctly: Pardus = Parvus ... (There was such a swindler in the history of Russian s / democracy ...)
              Second, the do not forget about the many positive statements about DEMOCRACY. yes
              For example:
              -Democracy is the worst of all political systems, but there is no better one. (N. Berdyaev).
              - In a democracy, fools have the right to vote, in a dictatorship to rule.(Bertrand Russell)
              - Democracy - one of the worst conceivable, but the best feasible form of government.(Joseph Levin)
              - Every now and then we hear that democracy is the worst way to run a state, but all other ways that humanity has ever tried are even worse. (Winston Churchill, from a speech in the House of Commons, November 1947)
              So, as they say - whoever is looking for something, he finds it! bully
              1. Baron pardus
                Baron pardus 1 March 2021 18: 55
                +1
                Of course, I understand that for losers to look everywhere, including in their closets and under the bed of the horned-tailed Jewish-Zionist-Masons, this is at least some opportunity to justify their loser. In Russia, this is almost a national sport. But here you are generally mistaken. I am a mishling, and according to Jewish law - generally goy, with a Russian mother :-). Your jab at my callsign, this is an even bigger blunder the Pardus in Russia were called ... LEOPARDOV. As for Churchill's quotes, I will remind you of one more. "There is no anti-Semitism in England because we do not consider ourselves more stupid than Jews." Think carefully about this quote, and think about why you are immediately trying to find out the nationality of your opponent in a dispute. Is it because Sir Winston's expression is 100% applicable to you and you have no other arguments. And about Parvus - this is the first time I've heard. Thanks for the tip - I do. Shitcracies and republics have proven their utter nonviability. And about "nothing was invented better," and what else can Churchill say in a country where ... democracy. In Churchill's quotes, you can generally find dofig of opposites - a politician, sir. Maneuvering and saying what he NEEDS, not what he wants. But his contempt for liberalism and parliamentarism is common knowledge. I draw your attention to the works of Plato, Machiavelli, and the statements of the greatest figures of the 18th and 19th centuries: Frederick the Great and Otto von Bismarck. Read how they treated the liberals, crap and other scum.
                1. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 2 March 2021 00: 24
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                  Quote: Baron Pardus
                  Pardus in Russia was called ... LEOPARDS.
                  There is such a thing. But!
                  Pardus is a common Aryan name. It has survived in Iranian ("Parduka") and in the ancient Indian ("Prdaku") languages ​​and means, in addition to the panther, a motley animal in general.
                  Quote: Baron Pardus
                  for losers look everywhere
                  It is truth too. So you are looking in a foreign land ... because - losers!
                  mishling, and according to Jewish law - generally goy, with Russian mother:
                  But you went with DADDY!
                  I had a subordinate (of a famous Jewish surname), who had a sister - a famous pop singer ... So, the Jewish dad recognized her, but Pashka did not! although he bore his last name and was his exact copy (from the photo).
                  And from communication with you (by correspondence) only one thing follows: you are suffering mental trauma, therefore, you are terribly offended by the "cattle" that you consider all those left behind in your abandoned homeland ...
                  Yes, you are educated (you can feel it in the text and style), but you are ill-mannered. Intelligence in you on a broken penny! But, if you reconsider your credo towards spirituality, tolerance, tolerance ... Then from you, still a young man, maybe something will work out in the end. When you have to strike a balance ... the result of earthly existence. AHA.
                  Somehow, however. yes
                  1. Baron pardus
                    Baron pardus 2 March 2021 19: 50
                    +1
                    Citizen, never play the lottery, you can't guess. This, of course, is none of your business, but I will tell you all the same. We all left (with my grandfather, by the way, also a Jew, concurrently, a retired lieutenant colonel of the border troops and a party member since 1943, and grandmothers) already in November 1991. And it was the grandfather who made the decision to wash away, in January 1991, after another conversation with his former colleagues and still serving friends, he came home and said, “That's it, you have to tick, there will be no sense, it will steal everything, sell it, drink it up and make a mess. can we here without Stalin. We can not. Our brains are so arranged that without Stalin for two generations we degenerate into complete brutes "As you can see, he was right. I can tell you about the conversations that I heard from the parents of my friends and classmates, about "This regime does not value us, that would drive the commies out and live like in America." I can tell you how in the 2nd Grade, in the history lesson, the teacher asked what does the USSR mean? And Sashka Zagorudko said "Shit Dog Forty Times" and almost the whole class neighed, and the teacher, smiling, said "Well, you can't do that." And not a single brute spat in the snout of Sasha for these words. Where was it? Kiev, secondary school 222. Where do you think Sashka heard this "joke"? Do you think he listened to the Voice of America in the 2nd grade? Or Sevu Novgorodtsky from BBS? He heard this from the Rodoks. And for this they did not have ANYTHING. I hate and despise not those who remained, they have already received theirs, and their children will receive even more, these people need to be pitied. I hate and despise those who allowed and arranged the collapse of the USSR, those who opposed the GCHPK - the last chance for the USSR not to turn into a nedogonduras with nuclear missiles (minus, pliz, from this Russia will not turn into a world superpower of which the USSR was). I hate and despise those who glorify the "funny 90s", and "our ideal is Russia of 14 years", who are now stealing, drinking, and urinating in doorways, but "Damned Stalin and the commies" are to blame for everything. I hate those who sat in the huts and waited - who would win to join them. I hate those who jumped for vouchers, although it was clear even to me that they would get lost and thrown.

                    In general, it is difficult for me to be loyal to ANY country where above the capital there is a rag of lowered not even Hitlerites, but their lackeys. Be it the Bandera flag, or the Vlasov one. Find 10 differences. Two anti-communist semi-feudal oligarchs. Neither me, nor my family, nor my grandfather and grandmother needed this America. How do you think my Bate, musician of the Kiev Chamber had to go to the United States and 3 years of washing dishes in niggerskom hospital? And mother, a Russian teacher and a librarian had to go to the USA and alter stinking jeans and dresses for half a year while she was learning the language and not becoming an accountant? Dad and mother continued to study GERMAN at school. My grandfather was fluent in German, and so was his wife. And my Russian grandmother spoke Russian, Ukrainian, Polish and obscene, but not English. Do you think they had to come here and live in "Grandma's House" with the niggers in raione where sometimes shot at night? Did I have to burn the garbage in the factory at night? Yes, we are living well now, thank you. Yes, education is free (thanks to the US Army), yes, a good profession (thanks to the US ARMY), yes, real estate, yes, a good job, in a VA hospital. But for all this, thanks not to America, but to the US Army. And it is not necessary that I served a "potential enemy". I repeat, the country under the flag of lowered Natsik's lackeys is not worthy of respect. Only now I would be better, as I wanted, would have learned to be a paramedic, in the USSR, would have served in the Army as a paramedic, and then at a medical institute, of course, not in Kiev, (with the 5th column written on the face), but somewhere in Krasnoyarsk or else where, but I would have entered, I would have unlearned, and would have lived in HIS country.

                    Yes, the Rodoks opened a business on the wave of real estate trading, made good money and live in a rich area in a 3-storey building and drive Infiniti and Lexus (THEY have achieved this themselves, I have nothing to do with their success). But Dad constantly says that it would be better if he was doing what he loved - Classical music in the USSR, and not went to Infinity in the USA. Mother also still misses school and the library at HOME. We didn’t have a car, we didn’t chase after clothes with "lEybochki" and "firm". Therefore, we had a dacha, and we traveled half of the USSR during my 17 years of life there. From Novgorod to Sochi and Sukhimi, and from Vilnius to Novosibirsk and Krasnoyarsk. The Union would not have collapsed, we looked at a house for ourselves, not far from the apartment where we lived, right on the outskirts of Kiev, right on Bolshaya Okruzhnaya, but HOUSE. It was good for us in the USSR. But all sorts of intellectuals and liberals have dirtied, defiled and destroyed and destroyed OUR country everything that they could. What people like them are doing in the United States. The virus of liberalism boomerang back to the one who released it. Yes, Poetic justice, but damn it, we live here. And I am ready to act under ANY flags if only liberal tolerant cancer is destroyed and burned out. By the way, American liberalism has NOTHING to do with Marxists. They can call themselves whatever they want (there is also a lot of things written on the fence), but what they preach is not Marxism, this is some wildest mixture of hatred for the white race, European culture, social liberalism and anarchism.

                    And my country was fucked up by the generation of my family and those whom they raised. When teachers at school handed out the slops of Solzhenitsin, Rezun and other "exposers" and "patrons" in the form of samizdat to "correct children from intelligent families". But after the phone calls to the right places and samples of samizdat, these "honored teachers" were just scolded, "you can't ruin people's careers." When the youth organization of Ukrainian nationalists "Phoenix", about which I told my grandfather, and he introduced me to whoever I needed, and I not only got samples of literature for them, but also those who distributed it and handed them over, red-handed, these scum were released "well you can't ruin life for young men and women because of trifles, "a couple of people were kicked out of universities and that's it. And thank you for telling me that I am not an intellectual. GLORY ONE, GWAN YU and AMASERASU. I saw how the liberal "intelligentsia" destroyed the USSR from within, and I see how the same liberal intelligentsia is destroying the United States from within. I am ready to sign up for Fry Corps even yesterday (if you know which Fry Corps I'm talking about). I fought with liberal nits to the best of my ability all my life, from my youth. I could not stuff the face of the teacher of literature and the historian, but I reported where I needed to. I could not fight openly at the age of 16 with the guys after the army spreading all kinds of Bandera scum, but I helped whoever needed to get information. It is not my fault that the "above" decided "not to spoil life." In the United States, it is the liberal nits that are destroying the country, any "creative intelligentsia" that is engaged in "tearing off the veils." You see, Abram Lincoln is not worthy of the monument because he did not care about blacks enough "black lives didn't matter enough for him" - as those who renamed the school named after him said. And the founding fathers, the witnesses, were all "male chauvinists and slave owners". Deja vu, but the hand itself is looking for, either PPSh, or Mauser, or Kalash, or M4, or MP40 and MG42.

                    So you, mse, once again hit the sky with your finger. And thanks for the compliment. Call me an intellectual like you, it would be an insult, and so - thank you. Concerning the Aryans with the Hyperboreans and the Reptilians with Nibiru. Yes, I'm Aryan, I've been listening to Aria since 1986. And I still listen :-) with pleasure. Only in the song "You will be given a sign" the last verse is an extra one. And if it's no joke, then I know perfectly well that on the territory of Russia, in contrast to what Ayatollah Gundyaev pretends to be, there was a highly developed civilization, and archaeological finds of megalithic structures proves this. Whether they were "true Aryans" I do not know, but there was civilization on the territory of Russia BEFORE the arrival of Christianity. But this is a COMPLETELY different conversation. Excuse me, it's time for me to go. I'm on duty at midnight.

                    I ask everyone to forgive me for graphomania. SICK. I see that in the USA the same processes are going on as in the late 80s and early 90s in the USSR. After the stolen elections and the provocation with the "storming of the Capitol", there is generally deja vu ... I have already experienced the collapse of my homeland once. For the second time to see the country collapsing around my ears where I built life for myself and my family, there is not the slightest desire, and there is nowhere to run .. Chinese is a very difficult language.
                  2. Boa kaa
                    Boa kaa 2 March 2021 21: 31
                    0
                    Quote: Baron Pardus
                    (Thanks US ARMY)

                    This is your attitude ... For me, the US ARMY is a potential enemy who has declared my homeland an enemy. Therefore, I, without a moment's hesitation, will press the START button of the weapon that I had to unlock a couple of times (like an adult!)
                    Poor Jewish people - smart, cunning, persecuted ...
                    You can be understood, after all, they were brought up and formed as a person in the Union. But everyone has their own problems ... Your family decided to leave some, but got others, American ... overseas! Well, "to each his own!" SO --
                    Good luck in your fight against liberoids on the other side of the planet.
                    Sincerely, Boa.
                  3. Baron pardus
                    Baron pardus 3 March 2021 18: 38
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                    It's funny how Moscow works for you. So it is OK for you to serve the flag of the lowered Natsik lackeys, and to defend the Vlasov or Bandera rag is normal for you, and the US flag is the flag of a "potential enemy"? You see, I received a passport of the USSR, but not a passport of the feudally oligarchic Vlasovism - Russia (since people are Russians, then the country is Russia), where on May 9 the Mausoleum is hung with Vlasov rags, and not a passport of a feudal oligarchic banderostan. (Find 10 differences). My country was killed. From the inside, our own. You can talk as much as you like about the "pernicious influence of the West" and "CIA special operations." The choice was at our top and the choice was at our citizens. Why many whom I knew did not chase but "fyrma with lEybochki", and made a choice to spend money on something more worthwhile? Why in the emigration, when many of us begin life in niggerhude, many of emmigrantskoy made a choice not to touch drugs and does not get in the way of krimialny, although the temptation was, and any dope in niggerhude easily accessible. So it is in the USSR. Both the top and the townsfolk had a choice, but they made the WRONG choice. The country was sold for a parnukha, pEpsyu, beetle and "vouchers". The country perished and some strange pale toadstools of different shades and sizes grew on its corpse. So MY country is dead. And when your overlord moderates, you have the right to serve any overlord. Although you also have a choice to commit suicide at the grave of the overlord (some military and employees of the KGB and other organizations did just that). My country was killed. Serving the murderers of your country is meanness and meanness. To serve under the rag of Natsik's lackeys - even no words - what is it, it is interesting how you will explain it to your ancestors on that track. Well, yes, Odin, Gwang Yu and Amaserasu are your judges. So it's not for you to judge me for joining the US Army. After the fall of the USSR, I am free to serve anyone. Even reptilians from Nibiru, even Autarks, even Marvin the Martian. And not those who are loyal to the Vlasov rag to judge me.
                  4. Boa kaa
                    Boa kaa 3 March 2021 19: 25
                    -1
                    Quote: Baron Pardus
                    So

                    As I understand it, you will not fight against liberoids in the USA ... laughing
                    Because, having served in the US Army (for obtaining American citizenship), you still remain a Kiev Jew! deprived of roots, homeland, former friends and social circle, a safe habitual environment ... It seems that you are mentally unstable ... your dissatisfaction with being pours out into such posts.
                    Therefore, you are trying to offend the interlocutor and his home country, to which you no longer have a relationship ...
                    I am sincerely sorry for you.
                    You are a doctor and you should know: gangrene is dangerous !!! You have cut yourself off from the WHOLE, so rest in peace! in a foreign, not native country for you ...
                    The past cannot be returned. Try to build a better future for yourself ...
                    Amen!
                  5. Baron pardus
                    Baron pardus 3 March 2021 20: 57
                    +1
                    Don't worry about my struggle (Mein Kampf ???) with the Liberals. It continues within the law. Do not engage in psychoanalysis. You do it extremely badly. I want it to be good where I live. I wholeheartedly support "Make America Great" and "Put America First". Let's Make America Great and America Above All. My problems are not with these slogans, with them I agree to all 150%, and I would like to live, if not in the USSR, then in the United States as they were until the hippie liberals began to undermine them from the inside out. My problems are with the fact that the virus of liberalism, which destroyed the USSR from the inside, returned like a boomerang (which, in general, was predictable), and jumped across Geyrop and the States. I have already experienced the fall of my Motherland, and I am not going to see what my country of residence is turning into. It will be necessary, I will vote for Mussolini and Franco at least (Stalin, Mao and Castro in the USA, unfortunately, will not be anticipated from the word AT ALL, at best it will be Mussolini or Franco). I need to sign up for Fry Corps and do what I need to do. However, we are just waiting for the FAS command. "Above America's Cloudless Sky". I'm from the Oathkeepers. Although I do not advertise my affiliation with them (after all, I work for the federal government). I transfer money to certain organizations and groups, I regularly go to "historical reenactments" of a certain type. When there were riots, we organized a self-defense group and went to the "trouble spots" to guard the homes of our group members. When Antifa and BLM started yelling that they would attack houses with American flags, we hung Confederate flags over ours and signed "Welcome" under them. The fall of the USSR was a huge blow for me. Here As well as for the whole family. I think that the collapse of the USSR shortened life for Grandpa Joseph by several years, although he also hung a portrait of Stalin on the wall in the Living Room. Now this portrait hangs in my drawing room. Grandfather Dmitry died in 1989. For him, "perestroika" and throwing mud at the entire history of the USSR was also a heavy blow. It hurt all of us too. And the collapse of the USSR was a tragedy for the whole family. I don't want to go through this for the SECOND time.

                    You stubbornly call me a Jew, although I am a half-breed. Mischling. You are probably trying to offend me so. The psychologist of you is bad. Both grandfathers are members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, both fought on the front lines. Both grandmothers worked the whole life, one at the factory as a control officer, the second at the post office, at the heads of the post office. I am not going to give up my Russian or Jewish half. It turns out funny, for obscurantists - Jews, I'm a goy, since my mother is Russian, and for people like you - I'm a Jew. Well, you and the Orthodox Jews have the same mentality with the Hasidims. Congratulations. Why am I writing here? What should I do? I came home from work, my wife is at work, now I’ll have a little rest, I’ll do some chores for the housework and spatki. I'm on duty at midnight. With my profession, you also did not guess (do not play the lottery), I am something like a paramedic, no longer quite a nurse, but not quite a doctor yet - a nurse practitioner. The US Army is generous, of course, but not so generous as to fully pay the medical school. :-). Yes, and I'm too big gouge to endure the medical institute. By the way, what does the Russian army give its veterans? For more details, pliz. As for liberasto tolerastov, I saw what destroyed the USSR from the inside. I perfectly see the same processes, but those advanced to the point of absurdity, current in the United States, and I know very well what any district turns into when blacks, Arabs or Mexots come there. And I don't like that theater of absurdity and madness into which Europe and the United States are rapidly turning. I do not intend to defend this, but to fight against this by all LEGAL methods - as much as necessary. I was too young to do something to stop the processes that were going on in the USSR. Now I can do something.

                    Where did I offend you, excuse me? Do you have a semi-feudal oligarchy in Russia? Do you have a Vlasov rag over the Kremlin in Russia? Do you not hang the same Vlasov rag Lenin's Mausoleum on May 9th? Those who are in the army do not serve under the Vlasov rag? The Vlasovites were not the lowered lackeys of the Nazis? Where did I insult you? Where are lies and lies? Is Russia different from Banderostan? For me, there are two anti-communist semi-feudal oligarchal countries, above both are rags not even of Nazis, but of lowered Nazi lackeys. You can admire the formidable Sher Khan, but you live under the flags of Tabaki, not Sher Khan :-). Where are the splinters here? True, you know, she is unpleasant. As the wise Chinese used to say Beautiful words are not true, truthful words are not beautiful.
  • mat-vey
    mat-vey 1 March 2021 17: 53
    -1
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    At the expense of the cook Ulyanov got very excited

    And if you read what was actually said there?
    1. Baron pardus
      Baron pardus 3 March 2021 21: 37
      +1
      Why would he read Lenin? Chukchi is not a reader, he is a writer.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 4 March 2021 04: 11
        -1
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        Why would he read Lenin? Chukchi is not a reader, he is a writer.

        There are more Chukchi here than in Chukotka ..
  • Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 28 February 2021 21: 19
    -2
    The lack of understanding of the systemic nature of the crisis, both in 17th and 91st, creates a false impression on both the author and the current government about the possibility of a forceful solution to discontent.
    Colleague. This is how ANY power works. Unfortunately, only the Soviet tried to act differently.
    In such cases, they simply forget that blood generates new blood and after it the old society cannot be
    Can. Look at Western Europe. As it was before the war, so it is now. About 15 years old, they will cancel pensions and vacations. Reduce wages and everything will return as it was before 1945, when the capitalists were forced to share the profits with the workers. There is no USSR, there is no one to look up to. After all, there were pensions from 60 and they were high. And now? Here!
    1. Baron pardus
      Baron pardus 2 March 2021 20: 51
      +1
      What has to do with BEFORE the war? Read the memoirs of Ozzy Osbourne. He quite vividly describes the life of the family of an EXPERIENCED FACTORY WORKER, what his father was and the poverty in which they lived in the "prosperous cradle of democracy" of ENGLAND. You know, it seems to me that even in small towns that were just beginning to rebuild after the war in the 50s and 60s, they lived better than Ozzy lived in England at the same time. And his father was an experienced factory worker. So, after 20 years in the capitalist countries to return there. The process began in the United States since the 1990s. At the university we were openly told in economics lessons that we are the FIRST GENERATION IN US HISTORY, which, as a rule, will never reach the level of well-being of our parents.
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 3 March 2021 11: 17
        0
        May be. I actively studied only the pre-war period on this topic.
        1. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 3 March 2021 21: 21
          +2
          Just read Ozzy's memoir. Great syllable. Very funny, with self-irony and self-criticism. The smartest person (I would not have written such great music and such poetry). It is very informative when he describes the life of his childhood and youth. Father and mother both work. And it’s not the carts in the shops that are pushed but by the workers, in the factories. Father, by the way, tool maker is a tool maker. All lovers of England and all haters of the "rogue Scoop" need to read Ozzy after reading Osborne's book, it is England that turns out to be rogue. By the way, the guys from Iron Maiden and Saxon are talking about the same thing. All of the working families and everyone recalls an almost impoverished childhood.
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 4 March 2021 09: 14
            0
            Thank. I will certainly find and read it.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 28 February 2021 06: 43
    +6
    Now almost the same thing is happening, the people are dissatisfied with the tsar and his retinue, who look at the people with contempt, discontent is growing and, most importantly, the youth is dissatisfied with whom the future is, but the tsar and his retinue are happy, the tsar asks to wait a little longer, and the retinue rests at the resorts and builds yachts for hundreds of millions of dollars.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2021 07: 14
      +8
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Now almost the same thing is happening, the people are dissatisfied with the king and his retinue, who look at the people with contempt, discontent is growing and most importantly, the youth is dissatisfied with whom the future is, but the king and his retinue are happy, the king asks

      The trouble is that the tsar is blind and considers it possible to solve systemic problems by the Russian Guard.
      Studied poorly at the university, Lenin should at least have been read
      1. Destiny
        Destiny 28 February 2021 07: 28
        +19
        Our oligarchs then did not even study at school, otherwise they would have known what became of their colleagues in Byzantium. During the last days of the empire, they did not give a dime for the defense of the city, out of habit they took the last from the treasury, and when the sultan asked: well you so they said, they answered - we saved it for you, the new owner. They executed and fed the dogs. And those who still managed to escape to the west with the loot were greeted by this very west with open arms, just like the Romanian border guards of Ostap Bender. Nothing is their story. teaches.
        1. Pessimist22
          Pessimist22 28 February 2021 08: 10
          +6
          I am amazed by the contempt for their people of a handful of ignoramuses, who, through nepotism and their own venality, have risen one step and begin to teach how to live and how much to work in order to be good, they are too naive to know that the capitalists pay the people from 10 to 19% of their daily earnings , and the rest goes to the yachts and the content of talking heads in the form of officials and any court trash.
          1. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 28 February 2021 12: 22
            +4
            And this "handful" flew to you from Mars? From Nibiru? Are they reptilloids? They were brought to Russia / the USSR by the SS or the Tsakhal? Are they ALL descendants of British / German / Austrian / French / Honduran spies? Not. They are an indicator of society. A slice of society. His gut. Flesh of your flesh. In the same way, much of what the American "elite" allows themselves now, 40 years ago they did not even think about it. They will not understand their own and will fly out of the "inner circle of respected people." And now ... society has changed and the "elite" behaves in a completely different way. Our elite is a slice of our society. Your (or rather, OUR already, since their kids and loot are in the USA and Europe) Elite is also a cut of YOUR society. When society is criminalized to the limit, then the elites will be like that. For example, in the 70s / 80s, despite all the struggle for "civil rights", not a single producer or manager of radio and television would sit down in need next to a "musician" glorifying a criminal lifestyle (gangster rapper), although in 70-80 they ALREADY WERE. Why? Because others will not understand. And now it's easy. It's the same in Russia. You have - AUE, we have teenagers, and young Wiggers.
            1. Pessimist22
              Pessimist22 28 February 2021 12: 58
              0
              I agree with you, this handful, these are the leaders of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the Komsomol, everyone who owns and controls Russia is from them, now I understand about what a bright future they talked about, they issue laws according to which they live better, but they do not care about others, they have notions do not have how the people live.
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 28 February 2021 08: 42
          +5
          Quote: Destiny
          History teaches them nothing.

          Now is the Bendery time, alas
      2. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 28 February 2021 21: 20
        0
        Studied poorly at the university, Lenin should at least have been read
        Lenin's works are available on the Internet. Read on.
  • Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 28 February 2021 06: 51
    +7
    Prior to 1917, a couple of centuries of degradation of the tsarist power with its apotheosis in the form of complete decomposition of state institutions, endless backwardness and decline of industry (especially manifested in the RYA and the First World War), with complete disregard for their own population, naturally led to an explosion and a forceful scenario of changing the rotten regime. Inevitably followed by a couple of years of civil war

    But Russia is not Uganda, the nation has managed to build new government... Which turned out to be better than the previous one. Under her, Russia and the peoples inhabiting it became a symbol of progress and great achievements, on a global scale. The results of the Soviet system were used by everyone living under it and we still use it.

    Now as it was then drive rot in the neck, by any means
    As all historical examples have shown, such a change will be better for the country than continuing to live for decades with thieves and embezzlers who have lost their minds.
    The reasons for the "Troubles of 1917" are the complete squalor of the previous government, over the centuries, especially the 19th century, which brought the country to such a result.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 28 February 2021 06: 58
      -4
      Quote: Santa Fe
      endless backwardness and decline of industry (especially manifested in the RYA and the First World War)
      request
      The market has settled everything. angry "The West has tops, and Russia has roots." (raw materials from us, and cars from Europe)
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 28 February 2021 07: 43
        -1
        Which market, which west

        Already in the first half of the XNUMXth century, calculations showed that the economic efficiency of a Russian serf is four times less than a slave in Haiti. The degradation continued, because the elites and the tsar could not otherwise

        Complete failure of the Crimean War, a disaster

        Widespread poverty, illiteracy and backwardness, society at a dead end
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 28 February 2021 19: 24
          +4
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Complete failure of the Crimean War, a disaster

          decipher the connection between the Crimean War and the 1917 revolution!
          1. Israel
            Israel 1 March 2021 02: 06
            +2
            It is rather an example of the growing degradation of society in the Republic of Ingushetia. The main "brake" was serfdom, and it was abolished too late and the worst variant of abolishing serfdom was chosen.
          2. Santa Fe
            Santa Fe 1 March 2021 03: 32
            +2
            I described the middle of the 19th century, the tsarist power for the last century was moving towards the end and the subsequent turmoil

            They continued to degrade and, together with the elites, the country degraded, they hoped that it would always be so, but no, they reached the red line
          3. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 1 March 2021 07: 35
            +2
            The Crimean War, or rather the zvizdyuli that Russia got from the limited contingent of England and France, was the first bell and showed the utter weakness of the Russian army (and the military industrial complex) and at the same time the weakness of Russian diplomacy. This was the FIRST bell. The second call was the sickly zvizdyuli that Russia got from tiny Japan. That is, if the Crimean was merged to the "advanced European countries", then in 1905 Russia was lowered below the plinth by tiny Japan, itself only recently emerged from the Middle Ages (but practically with universal literacy).
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 28 February 2021 07: 11
      +4
      Quote: Santa Fe
      As all historical examples have shown, such a change will be better for the country than continuing to live for decades with thieves and embezzlers who have lost their minds.

      Kaptsov, are you exactly the same person? Recently they wrote quite the opposite.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2021 19: 41
        +4
        It's just that the wind of public sentiment changes direction. Accordingly, the flagship of the interests of Admiral Kaptsov changes the direction of movement. laughing
      2. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 2 March 2021 06: 03
        -1
        Well I manage to keep opposite points of view in my head

        For example, you can easily justify the uselessness of armor on ships)))
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2021 07: 32
      +1
      Quote: Santa Fe
      the nation was able to build a new government.

      Don't forget about the price! How many millions of lives did it cost
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 28 February 2021 07: 39
        -2
        Well, do you think two hundred years of degradation have passed without result

        Blood, turmoil and mess are the consequences of the rule of kings. Dopraaili until the moment when everything collapsed abruptly and the victims went, justified and no
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 28 February 2021 08: 41
          -2
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Well, do you think two hundred years of degradation have passed without result

          Straight 200 years old? Do you remember the economic growth of the country before the First World War?
          1. clerk
            clerk 28 February 2021 09: 10
            +2
            ... Do you remember the economic growth of the country before the First World War?
            ... It is easier to recall the share of Russia in world industrial production after this stunning growth of 5,7%. Against 6,4% in France, 15-17% in England and Germany, and 35% in the United States.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 28 February 2021 11: 47
              +2
              Quote: clerk
              after this stunning growth - 5,7%. Against 6,4% in France,

              A big difference?
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 28 February 2021 11: 58
                0
                Quote: Silvestr
                A big difference?

                How to count ... the people were four times less than in the Republic of Ingushetia.
              2. clerk
                clerk 28 February 2021 12: 27
                +3
                ... Quote: clerk
                after this stunning growth - 5,7%. Against 6,4% in France, ////// Strong difference?
                Taking into account the difference in population, it is about 4,5 times more in favor of France.
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2021 19: 27
                  +5
                  Well, we still have a chance to jump to the RI level. Cancel the entire social network, introduce a 12-hour working day with a 6-day working week, import blacks in marketable quantities, and even spirituality according to your recipe. laughing So Pobedim!
                  1. clerk
                    clerk 28 February 2021 20: 16
                    0
                    ... Well, we still have a chance to jump to the RI level. Cancel the entire social network, introduce a 12-hour working day with a 6-day working week, import blacks in marketable quantities and even spirituality according to your recipe. laughing Let's win!
                    No more pouring for Karl Marx! laughing
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2021 21: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: clerk
                      No more pouring for Karl Marx!

                      Unfortunately, it is not. He was a genius. I'm certainly smarter than the average man in the street like you. But not a genius at all.
                      1. clerk
                        clerk 28 February 2021 22: 12
                        -1
                        ... Unfortunately, it is not. He was a genius. I'm certainly smarter than the average man in the street, like you. But not a genius at all.
                        Sincerely happy for you - it means you are not hopeless. But in any case - if you meet Napoleon on your walk - say hello to him! wink
                  2. Svarog
                    Svarog 28 February 2021 20: 45
                    +2
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    Cancel the entire social network, introduce a 12-hour working day with a 6-day working week, import blacks in marketable quantities and even spirituality according to your recipe

                    What's wrong with us ..? In fact, we have a 10-hour working day for a long time .. it is not at all uncommon when people work even 12 hours .. and this practically does not affect the salary .. And the 6-day working week has been the norm for a long time. So we are close to the Republic of Ingushetia as never before ... and in all respects ... the industry was also killed, we are becoming a non-agrarian power ... where for thirty years, we could not solve the issue of food security, when to this day dependence on the West is huge. ...
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 28 February 2021 19: 34
              0


              Quote: clerk
              It is easier to recall the share of Russia in the world industrial production after this stunning growth of 5,7%. Against 6,4% in France, 15-17% in England and Germany and 35% in the United States.
              [
              These are your hallucinations!
              Statistics show that from 1861 to 1913, steel smelting in Russia increased 2,2 thousand times, oil production - 14,7 thousand times, coal mining - 694 times, mechanical engineering production - 44 times, chemical products - 4,8 times. In the period 1885-1913, industrial production in Russia grew by 5,72% annually. For comparison: in England - by 2,11%, in Germany - by 4,5%, in the USA - by 5,2%.
              After the introduction of the gold standard, the average annual inflow of foreign investment into Russia increased by almost 4,4 times. The ruble received gold backing, and the phenomenon that is now called the "golden bridge" arose.

              In 1913, 92 million tons of grain were harvested. This indicator was repeated in the USSR only in 1937. In 1908-1912, an average of 72,9 million tons were collected. At the same time, the population increased from 133 to 175 million people (1,32 times). According to this indicator, Russia was three times higher than Germany. Population growth in Russia was the fastest in Europe. GNP doubled over the same period.
              https://finance.rambler.ru/other/43431644/?utm_content=finance_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
              1. clerk
                clerk 28 February 2021 20: 14
                +1
                ... utm_content = finance_media & utm_medium = read_more & utm_source = copylin
                Does this somehow refute the data on the share of industrial production in different countries?
                ... It is easier to recall the share of Russia in world industrial production after this stunning growth of 5,7%. Against 6,4% in France, 15-17% in England and Germany, and 35% in the United States.
                By the way, there are big doubts about 175 million - having called in 15 million people into PMA, Russia has run out of steam.
                1. Overlock
                  Overlock 28 February 2021 21: 02
                  +9
                  Quote: clerk
                  having called 15 million people into PMA, Russia has run out of steam.

                  If you load 200 kg, then you will not fizzle out, but bend. According to Senka hat
              2. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2021 23: 09
                +1
                Quote: Silvestr
                Statistics show that from 1861 to 1913, steel smelting in Russia increased 2,2 thousand times, oil production - 14,7 thousand times, coal mining - 694 times, mechanical engineering production - 44 times, chemical products - 4,8 times. In the period 1885-1913, industrial production in Russia grew by 5,72% annually. For comparison: in England - by 2,11%, in Germany - by 4,5%, in the USA - by 5,2%.

                And by releasing one gravitational machine, the RI would increase the gravitational output by an infinite number of times, because until that moment the gravitational machine was not produced at all. laughing All these manipulations of numbers are for kindergarten. But in reality we have lost wars, an extremely low standard of living of the population and problems that are growing like a snowball, which, as in the current capitalist Russian Federation, were solved a year by a teaspoon, if they were solved at all.
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 1 March 2021 10: 35
                  -1
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  And by releasing one gravitational machine, the RI would increase the output of gravitational machines in an infinite number of times, because until that moment there were no gravitational machines produced at all.

                  As well as vacuum tubes. But for some reason only the lazy one did not make a complaint about poor equipment with communication means and radars .. well, or the one who knows what these radars and communication means are made of ..
              3. Baron pardus
                Baron pardus 2 March 2021 21: 04
                +1
                Fact you are facts, but if not you, twist it this way and that. So, even if you believe, and I DO NOT believe you, let's say I'm gullible (although gullible mishling is nonsense), let's say that RI harvested 13 million tons of grain in 92th year. Okay, I ALREADY believed you. And then I open the map. What do I see? And the fact that in the RI - POLAND (where farming is very well developed, moreover, there are good lands, that is, good harvests) and FINLAND (where farming, regardless of the climate, also takes place). And then I ask, of these, LET'S ALLOW SO 92 million tonnes of grain HOW MUCH was harvested in Poland and Finland? Poland is in no way smaller in size than Little Russia, and the land there is the same, with a better culture of agriculture / farming. That is, the Kingdom of Poland alone collected more than the "granary of Russia" Little Russia. So even if your 92mln ton is NOT nonsense (and I think that it is nonsense), then this is taking into account the territories of POLAND and FINLAND. It is impossible to compare these indicators with 1937, when neither Poland nor Finland was part of the USSR (although these are PRIMARSLY RUSSIAN LANDS, and MUST be part of the USSR or Russia). Moreover. From 1917 to 1922 there was no Civil War on the territory of Poland. (In Finland - it was, we do not mention it). Moreover, thanks to the "genius" Trotsky and the "genius" Tukheschevsky (both Geniuses with the letter "G"), the USSR managed to lose the war to Poland and lose a certain amount of VERY fertile lands. When you compare HARVEST compare the AREA it was harvested with, and don't be like a cheap shuller juggling a ball while playing thimbles. Don't juggle the facts. Yes, there are a lot of fools, about this USE, under the strict guidance of liberals, following Hitler's precepts (Russians just need to be able to sign their name and be able to count to a hundred), but not all are fools. And many can make a liar and a shuller a liar and a shuller. And many people still know how to think logically. The Soviet school took care.
          2. Simargl
            Simargl 28 February 2021 11: 04
            +1
            Quote: Silvestr
            Do you remember the economic growth of the country before the First World War?
            By squeezing all that is possible from the people? I remind you.
            It will be especially cool to remember industrialization before WWI
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 28 February 2021 17: 29
              +4
              Quote: Simargl
              It will be especially cool to remember industrialization before WWI

              and before the Second World War?
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2021 19: 34
                +2
                Yes, of course, the bloody komunyaki are to blame, and not the ruling class of RI that slept through the scientific and technological revolution. Can you tell us how in those conditions it was possible to get by with a little blood?
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 28 February 2021 19: 43
                  +2
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Yes, of course, bloody komunyaki are to blame

                  They fell from the oak!
                  Subject:
                  Who killed the Russian Empire
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2021 19: 46
                    +3
                    And we have that the empire survived to the Second World War? What the hell did you suffer during the era of Stalin's industrialization?
          3. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 28 February 2021 12: 27
            +5
            What the hell is "economic growth"? Where do you get such cool grass? During WWI, Russia could not provide itself not only with aviation and heavy artillery (not quite advanced countries, Italy and Austria Hungary had any problems with this), tsarist Russia "crunching rolls" (that is, blowing winds), even with rifles and machine guns could not provide for herself. Locomotives, cars, ships too. What is the "economic recovery"? Who saw him? Did they write? You also write, as in that joke "My neighbor, he is 87 years old, says that he can 2 times a night" "Not a problem, you say too." There were discussions to equip 1 out of 10 soldiers not with a mosink (which was almost the worst magazine rifle in Europe), but a cane. There were not enough rifles. Purchased by Arisaki and Winchesters. What is the "economic recovery" in the dupu? Do not mix vodka, beer and heroin, if not so glitchy.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 56
              +8
              Quote: Baron Pardus
              Where do you get such cool grass?

              Do you read books?
              Then at least look at the picture

              Quote: Baron Pardus
              During WWI, Russia could not provide itself with anything other than aviation and heavy artillery

              - and this is already inappropriate spending of the budget and corruption. It was necessary to steal less
              1. Baron pardus
                Baron pardus 28 February 2021 21: 19
                +4
                I wonder where you get this nonsense from. Is it written? You write too. Paper, she, you know, will endure everything. In history, I taught ABSOLUTELY differently, that somewhere from the middle of the 19th century, the technical and economic lag of Russia from European countries in ALL industries began. The first bell was when Russia received a zvizdyuley in the Crimean War, okay, there were advanced European countries, France and Britain, who fought against them, albeit with a limited contingent. Then, in Europe, diplomatically, Russia was maneuvered more than once or not twice, the Francophilic marasmatist Gorchakov, not only Bismarck outplayed with enviable frequency. Although no one will diplomatically reckon with a backward country where technology is backward, and science and economics. 27% literacy as for 1914, this is of course an EXTREMELY success. Yemnip in the Bukhara Emirate was higher. Then Russia was hanged by tiny Japan, which itself had recently emerged from the Middle Ages. However, it is not surprising. In Japan, as in China, most of the peasants were more or less literate. In Russia, 27% of the TOTAL POPULATION were literate. What is the "economic breakthrough" for Benin's mother? I repeat - RIFLE could not be done enough. RIFLE. You can say to me "Sikorsky". Well, kwa? There are no engines. And far from advanced Austria and Italy provided themselves with rifles and engines. And Literacy there was above 75%. Do you want to analyze the economic / technical level of a country? Start with a literacy level. A country with 27% literacy (it was higher in the Bukhara emirate) can do nothing but receive lyuli from its neighbors. This has been demonstrated more than once or twice or three times. The nonsense that you showed me is clearly rigged. Now any schizophrenic has been given the right to write, so they write, and the suckers read .: The Russian Empire made an economic breakthrough, Stalin was going to attack Hitler, Stalin personally killed and ate heaps of milen shy, clear-eyed intellectuals. Elvis is alive. Together with Tsoi, but they are hiding ... And the suckers allow themselves to hang noodles on their ears. As PT Barnum said, "A dupe is born every second," he said, "A dupe is forced to part with money very quickly." The yellow press has always sold well. Read less "Tearing off the veils of disclosure."
              2. clerk
                clerk 28 February 2021 22: 41
                +3
                ... Then at least look at the picture
                Great picture, thanks. It is especially impressive in poods. In terms of tons, in 1914 Russia mined 31,73 million tons of coal and smelted 7,73 million tons of pig iron and steel. For comparison - in the USSR in 1940, 165,9 were mined. million tons of coal and smelted 33,2 million pig iron and steel. The poverty of the Nikolaev industrialization in all its glory.
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 28 February 2021 19: 27
          0
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Well, do you think two hundred years of degradation have passed without result

          Before the outbreak of the First World War, Russia broke into the ranks of the world leaders. In terms of production volumes and growth rates, it ranked fifth in the world. In the first place were the USA, followed by Germany, Great Britain and France. It is believed that the pace of development of Russia was comparable to the pace of development of Germany, which, with its economic and military might, sought to take first place in the world.
          Statistics show that From 1861 to 1913, steel smelting in Russia increased 2,2 thousand times, oil production - 14,7 thousand times, coal production - 694 times, mechanical engineering production - 44 times, chemical production - 4,8 times times. In the period 1885-1913, industrial production in Russia grew by 5,72% annually. For comparison: in England - by 2,11%, in Germany - by 4,5%, in the USA - by 5,2%.
          https://finance.rambler.ru/other/43431644/?utm_content=finance_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
        3. Overlock
          Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 51
          +7
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Well, do you think two hundred years of degradation have passed without result

          From what year is the countdown of Russia's degradation? Please clarify. Chatting nonsense.
          In 1913, agriculture in the Russian Empire provided 55,7% of its income. In terms of industrial production, according to P. Bairoch, Russia ranked fourth in the world (USA - 32,0%, Germany - 14,8%. Great Britain - 13,6%. Russia - 8,2%. France - 6,1, 4,4%. Austria-Hungary - 2,7%. Japan - 2,4%. Italy - XNUMX%) and in terms of its growth rate - the first place in the world.
          In terms of GDP, the Russian Empire ranked third in the world, behind only the British Empire and the United States.
          In 1897, the gold ruble was introduced, equal to 2,16 Deutschmarks or $ 0,51. In 1913, Russia's gold reserves covered more than 100% of paper money (while the main military opponents, Germany and Austria-Hungary, had only about 50% gold coverage).
          Well, tell us about the degradation of Russia.
          1. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 28 February 2021 21: 34
            +1
            The number of aircraft engines produced for the entire WWI is ZERO. The country could not provide itself with artillery, ammunition, machine guns, or even rifles. in 1916, they seriously thought about giving out a halberd to every tenth soldier instead of the already awful mosink. We bought everything from anyone that was. Arisaka's rifles are from Japan, which has recently given Russia some sickly people. Winchester M1895 rifles, which the US Army abandoned. (By the way, the rifles themselves are cool, very much appreciated by hunters and amateurs of recreational shooting. The sucky mosinki themselves, almost the worst rifles of that time, chosen because they couldn't make them as simple as scrap, were ordered in the USA. The bottom was pierced. The bottoms were reached when tiny Japan kicked the ass of Russia. And in 1916 the bottom was punched. You can talk about gold, about "Witte's brilliant plans" which were first taken apart by the bones by all and sundry and the plans were, to be honest, so They look at the RESULTS. And what are the results of 27% literacy. We cannot produce aircraft engines. Artillery, too, even ammunition. We cannot even small arms, and not only machine guns, but also rifles. Some of the statesmen of the Republic of Ingushetia visiting England, even before WWI he said, “WE ARE LEFT FOREVER.” I repeat, in England the first METRO started when serfdom was just abolished in Russia. Think about it. oih - a subway was launched in another ... This is about a difference of 200-300 years. Drain everything. The indicator of progress is not tsiferki which "facts are facts, but if not you, twist them this way and that." Economic indicators can be calculated in different ways. In the US, for example, they yell, "The securities market is going up. The economy is growing." Only the securities market is only one, and far from the most important indicator. Main indicators: Unemployment rate, and salary of the average person in the country (as opposed to the Average temperature in the hospital). What are the indicators of progress? Science and technical production. Mechanization per capita. IKS tractors made in Belgium and the same IKS tractors made in Russia are completely different indicators. RI sucked, in all respects, spit it as best they could and as they wanted on all axes whoever wanted. And diplomatically, economically, technically and militarily.
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2021 19: 43
        +2
        What alternative would be better? I'd love to hear your version.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 28 February 2021 06: 55
    0
    Who killed the Russian Empire
    Those who went to school do not have a question. repeat
    1. andreykolesov123
      andreykolesov123 28 February 2021 07: 32
      -1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Who killed the Russian Empire
      Those who went to school do not have a question. repeat

      Crypto-Zionists, the White Guards, fought the Red Semites. Golda Meir is to blame for everything.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 28 February 2021 06: 56
    0
    Any collapse of a society-state is a set over time of a critical mass of mistakes and miscalculations of the previous days, all this tends to accumulate, giving rise to even greater problems. Neighbors always use this inappropriately (at least those whose intelligence analysts are not sick with strabismus and stupidity. The Bolsheviks are in fact in a swept away country where few people have already observed and wanted to adhere to the old order. In fact, they started from scratch to create a new country, society and a minority from a part - having thrown away much of the old world, without clinging to conservatism, succession, namely from scratch, started all over again and from scratch.
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 28 February 2021 09: 26
      0
      Quote: evgen1221
      started all over again and from scratch
      It was in your head that the coordinate system was shifted. We started with destruction. Have you set a zero reference point on a significant date? Or, which is more likely, without any reference to the chronology, put it where it is convenient, carrying out a raider seizure of the "old world" assets.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 28 February 2021 10: 33
        +1
        Did they start with destruction (Bolsheviks) ?. So at that time they had no influence on the detachment of the king and zero. It was the bourgeois who ruined RI, and in fact a series of worsening errors of tsarism, which accumulated and awkwardly corrected led to February. Everything is quite logical. Analogies with 2014 - if the Kremlin did not think that the ambassadors to Ukraine are an honorable exile and rest by the sea, then 2014 would not be famous at all for the Maidan. Some mistakes give rise to others, and so on to a critical mass. And it was the Bolsheviks who built the country from scratch, where at that time nothing according to the old rules did not work and died.
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 28 February 2021 11: 27
          -1
          Quote: evgen1221
          Did they start with destruction (Bolsheviks) ?. So at that time they had no influence on the detachment of the king and zero.
          And there are no soros for today? Did the Bolsheviks in the Social Democratic corps not work to destroy Russia? Didn't make efforts to defeat Russia in WWI, through agitation, incitement to kill officers and desertion? Didn't the Bolsheviks give most of the Republic of Ingushetia with the most developed industrial infrastructure to the Germans? All this and much more is destruction. Denying the obvious makes the argument meaningless.
          1. evgen1221
            evgen1221 28 February 2021 12: 41
            +3
            But weren't the kings people for centuries kept in slavery to serfdom? Having an example of adored and close Europe where slavery was abolished and the results of this step went. Weren't the kings lying on the stove and exporting raw materials instead of widespread processing? Here, too, the Bolsheviks are to blame for all the mistakes of the tsars, apparently since the time of the Donskoy RI crap.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 28 February 2021 13: 02
              -4
              Quote: evgen1221
              Here, too, the Bolsheviks are to blame for all the mistakes of the tsars.
              The Bolsheviks have more than enough of their own mistakes to hang on them all the mistakes of the rulers of Russia. Unless to substitute a question. But destruction was not one of their mistakes, but was the goal: to destroy the weak link in the chain of imperialism in order to ignite the fire of the world revolution. They were not going to build any USSR then. Not to start construction, but to fan the world fire on the mountain to all the bourgeoisie. Don't you notice the difference?
              1. evgen1221
                evgen1221 28 February 2021 13: 45
                +3
                In general, I do not notice, did not all the mistakes of tsarism lead first of all to its overthrow by their own oligarchs in February? And already after the obosrams in their get-together (who will get what and how much will get out of it) the Bolsheviks came and took power, which caused offense among the bourgeois and gave rise to the GR, as a result of which everything was torn apart and the Bolsheviks had to start from scratch to build the country, and because of the bourgeois path development with its result, they themselves have seen recently, then they had to look for and realize their path, whatever it was.
                1. sniperino
                  sniperino 28 February 2021 14: 12
                  -4
                  Quote: evgen1221
                  I don't notice at all
                  This is not surprising.
                  Quote: evgen1221
                  the mistakes of tsarism led primarily to its overthrow by their own oligarchs
                  And the Bolsheviks were on Mars at that time? Didn't they help the "oligarchs"?
                  1. evgen1221
                    evgen1221 28 February 2021 15: 40
                    +3
                    Stop fooling around. Tired.
                    1. sniperino
                      sniperino 28 February 2021 21: 36
                      -4
                      Quote: evgen1221
                      Stop fooling around. Tired.
                      Rest tired of your fool.
                  2. evgen1221
                    evgen1221 1 March 2021 09: 20
                    +1
                    They did not help in any way, the bourgeois themselves coped successfully.
  • Private89
    Private89 28 February 2021 06: 56
    +4
    Without a big war, the autocracy and the empire had chances to gain time and carry out the necessary modernization of the country and society (which was eventually carried out by the Bolsheviks, but already in much worse starting conditions).


    Perhaps this was theoretically possible. But honestly, it's hard for me to imagine how that power: tsars, nobles, tycoons, bankers - bourgeois in one word, build hospitals, schools, universities for the people, increase social guarantees, allow them to be elected and govern the country, treat the common people not like cattle, but with with respect about which Gorky wrote - Man will proudly memorize it.
    Of course, we are not given to find out how everything would have been, but history sometimes repeats itself only in a different form, we can clearly look at our country and what happened to it when it is led by the ideological heirs of that Russia (bourgeois Russia) that we have lost. Look at the achievements in the social sphere, in science, astronautics (it is interesting that this government will remember the anniversary of Gagarin's flight, or keep silent so as not to draw attention to the “achievements” or rather to their absence). In general, "our" current government is leading the country to a new turmoil, not wanting to serve the people, they only need to blame themselves for this, they had all the opportunities and resources.
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 28 February 2021 07: 30
      0
      In the article it is written how they built ... At the same time, they learned that the rifle gives rise to power ... so it looks like they built under the barrel of the rifle wink
  • clerk
    clerk 28 February 2021 07: 00
    +4
    A strange note. If the review of revolutionary events is quite sensible, then the conspiracy theories about the dragging of the poor of Russia and Germany into the First World War with the aim of destroying them is idle and false propaganda. They wanted war - and they got it.
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    1. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2021 19: 29
      +6
      Quote: 7,62x54
      war to the bitter end.

      war - with whom?
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 28 February 2021 20: 58
      +12
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Our Dear Leader is impressed by the period of bloody Nikolashka. He sleeps straight and sees a palace, a throne, kneeling subjects, a war to a victorious end.

      Nicolas thought so too when he went to Japan.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 February 2021 07: 21
    +1
    Nikolashka himself with his pack had a hand, and a bunch of liberals of that time. What is incomprehensible here, they are not looking for good, good. Fuck you will raise people, if everything is fine with them, they will rather lift you on a pitchfork, which, by the way, was observed in many cases.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 28 February 2021 07: 56
    +6
    I don't even want to comment, there are so many jambs and contradictions. And yet, not a big comment at all.
    Moreover, the role of the Bolshevik communists in these events is close to zero. During the First World War, they took the position of "defeatism" and were defeated as a party.
    Let's start with the fact that until April 1917 the RSDLP was formally a single party, but it was split into various factions, the largest "Mensheviks" and "Bolsheviks", and despite this, all factions actively interacted with each other. But there was no political unity. The final split of the RSDLP occurred in April 1917 and was formalized. During the heated discussion at the 7th All-Russian (April) Conference of the RSDLP, "April Theses" received the support of the majority of delegates from the field and formed the basis of the policy of the entire party and began to be called the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party (Bolsheviks). As a communist, it took shape in 1918. Therefore, as a party, the Bolsheviks were not defeated. It should also be noted that the RSDLP, like a mouse hole, was riddled with provocateurs, especially the Bolshevik faction. The most famous R.M. Malinovsky, a deputy of the State Duma, a member of the Central Committee of the RSDLP. RSDLP, did not take a defeatist position. In general, the entire faction from the RSDLP voted for the war in the State Duma, except for a few Bolsheviks, who ended up in hard labor. Even among the Bolsheviks there were no unity about the war. Most were "for", only by about 1916, many abandoned their views, so the question. The same thing happened in the Menshevik faction. And if we talk about the general position of the RSDLP at that time, it was the "war" party, not the "defeatists" party.
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 28 February 2021 12: 26
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      Even among the Bolsheviks there was no unity about the war. Most were in favor, only by about 1916 many abandoned their views, so the question. Even among the Bolsheviks there was no unity about the war. Most were in favor, only about 1916, many abandoned their views, so the issue. ... And if we talk about the general position of the RSDLP at that time, it was the "war" party, not the "defeatists" party.
      The main thing is to choose a convenient moment.
      At the VII Congress of the Second International (18-24 August 1907, Stuttgart), V.I.Lenin, representing the RSDLP, put forward the thesis that the goal of the struggle of the Social Democrats against militarism is not only to prevent the outbreak of war or to achieve its early end in if it occurs, but also in "making the most of the economic and political crisis generated by the war in order to awaken consciousness in people, to promote the early overthrow of capitalism." Together with Rosa Luxemburg and Clara Zetkin, he made the appropriate corrections to the initial draft resolution on this issue, proposed by the SPD. The resolution "On Militarism and International Conflicts" was adopted by the Congress unanimously. Representatives of the RSDLP defended the principle of a decisive struggle against militarism at subsequent congresses of the Second International in Copenhagen (1910) and Basel (1912)
      And "the transformation of the imperialist war into a civil war, the defeat of your government in the war" - is this not a common platform of the Bolsheviks in 1914?
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 28 February 2021 08: 00
    +5
    In general, I agree with the article, but the author is mistaken when this writes:
    Bread and provisions, in general, were in abundance in Russia.


    There was no hunger and preconditions for hunger in the cities!
    “Another study covered 435 counties of the country. It was also carried out in October 1915. Here are its results: the lack of wheat and wheat flour was declared by 361 counties, or 82% of the total, the lack of rye or rye flour - 209 counties (48% ).
    Particularly wary is the fact that the lack of bread is already recorded in the fall, immediately after the harvest. "Do novi", as we remember, did not reach a significant number of peasant farms "
  • bober1982
    bober1982 28 February 2021 09: 11
    -2
    The author is mistaken when he interprets that the "white myth" was created in the 90s.
    This myth was created much earlier, the Soviet government itself began to create it, at first very carefully since the 70s - half-forbidden songs, cinema, in the 80s already openly - "you can't live like that"
    The population had to be prepared, and in the 90s, no one needed anything, neither white nor red.
  • Unknown
    Unknown 28 February 2021 09: 32
    +4
    There is nothing to break a spear, the Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov dynasty has degenerated, and could not offer anything good. The authority in the world, as it is now, is below the plinth. On Nikolay, everyone put a big cross ..........
    He wasted all the legacy that his father left him. British relatives quickly disowned him, banning him from entering the country, their numerous pack of V.K. , also began to surrender the tsar ...... the great princes are not able to agree to any program of action, - said the cadet Vasily Maklakov. - None of them dares to take the slightest initiative and everyone wants to work exclusively for themselves. They would like the Duma to light gunpowder ... The role of the ambassadors in February -16 is also considerable. These are the arguments ........ "In terms of culture and development, the French and the Russians are not on the same level. Russia is one of the most backward countries in the world: out of 180 million inhabitants, 150 m are illiterate.1 Compare this with this ignorant and unconscious mass of our army: all our soldiers are educated; in the forefront are young forces who have shown themselves in art, in science, talented and sophisticated people; this is the cream and color of humanity "(Maurice Paleologue" Tsarist Russia on the Eve of the Revolution ", Saturday, April 1 ). By the way, where the legs grow from about supermen. Whatever one may say, Nikolay was doomed, it was a matter of time and it had come. During the February revolt, four grand dukes were in Petrograd: inspector general of cavalry Mikhail Alexandrovich, inspector general of the guard Pavel Alexandrovich, commander of the Guards crew Kirill Vladimirovich and marching chieftain of the Cossack troops Boris Vladimirovich.

    On February 26, Boris was still enjoying himself at a ball at Princess Radziwill's. But this lover of wine and women was the only one who rushed to the Headquarters to help Nicholas II. However, he, of course, did not reach Headquarters, and Alexandra Feodorovna generally regarded this gesture as alarmist. The marching chieftain did not take any more part in the events. Whatever they say later, but only the Bolshevik Party found leaders, the will and determination to take power into their own hands, thereby saving Russia.
  • hermit
    hermit 28 February 2021 10: 46
    0
    A recording of the voice of Tsar Alexander III appeared on the Internet https://t.me/nexta_live/13399
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 28 February 2021 12: 28
    +2
    Eh, history teaches nothing to those in power ... No. crying
    The USSR also collapsed due to "empty refrigerators" ...
    Next in line is Russia ?! ...
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 28 February 2021 13: 54
      -5
      Quote: Corona without virus
      The USSR also collapsed due to "empty refrigerators" ... Next in line is Russia ?!
      USA. There are many more hungry people there.
      In total, over 20 million people in the United States receive unemployment benefits. Food banks across the country are seeing a surge in demand for their services. Lines for free food at distribution points sometimes stretch for miles. Such a gloomy picture was described by the American television channel ABC News.
      A nation addicted to antidepressants is on the fast track
      According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, many more people were diagnosed with symptoms of anxiety and depressive disorders from April to June 2020 than in the same period in 2019. For example, in 2019, approximately 19,1 percent of US adults reported having anxiety disorder. In 2020, the percentage increased to 30,9 - it is noteworthy that this data is only for the first half of the year, and by the end of the year, the number of people suffering from anxiety disorders could have increased even more.
      And now it is already 2021. We only meet the sad ones at VO.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 28 February 2021 21: 01
        +12
        Quote: sniperino
        USA. There are many more hungry people there.

        The top of "wisdom"! And if you compare

        So we are in communism!
  • iouris
    iouris 28 February 2021 12: 53
    +1
    The author did not understand.
    I would not argue that the emperor abdicated. He was ousted by the "democrats" (who then unleashed the "white" terror and received the "red" terror).
    The empire was buried by the comprador bourgeoisie. Station Dno ("Russia begins here" - "the slogan of the United Russia"). Pskov province.
    Who saved Russia? Answer: the Bolsheviks.
  • orcinus
    orcinus 28 February 2021 19: 13
    +1
    Is the author sleeping at all or is he writing 24/7?)
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 28 February 2021 19: 35
    0
    The author has a contradiction - England and France were vitally interested in Russia fighting for their interests and they immediately help destroy Russia. Russia owes them huge amounts of money. They own the property. Why lose and destroy all this?
  • Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 28 February 2021 20: 28
    -1
    it was the betrayal of the nobility of the generals and the rotten intelligentsia that destroyed Russia
  • 1536
    1536 28 February 2021 21: 17
    +1
    There is only one conclusion: Russia should be governed by a strong, integral, intelligent person, whose life and interests are connected with Russia and only with it, capable of uniting the people by his deeds and words. But as soon as a slob, an intellectual verbiage, a henpecked or even worse "Hamburg rooster", as it was said in one Soviet film, or fanfare, appears in power, the threat of social upheaval, war, revolution, collapse and subordination to external enemies, the threat of the existence of the state, country and people. The worst thing is that in Russia these personalities alternate, as if some kind of game of even-odd is taking place.
    Beware of the Danes who bring gifts, the ancient wisdom sounds, which is still relevant.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 1 March 2021 11: 48
    0
    a few questions to the author:
    1. And what about France's credits for armaments, which were disposed of by Count Ignatiev?
    Invoice Payments Note
    State Treasury of the Russian Empire,
    22 June 1917 year
    The note, drawn up at the Banque de France, is published according to the surviving copy in the bank's archives.
    As of the specified date, the amount of payments made in
    interests of the Russian Empire, amounted to two billion four hundred and eighty-six thousand seven hundred and eighty francs (2 francs),
    including:
    - servicing Russian loans ......................... 1 [fr.]
    - military attaché Colonel Ignatiev ....................... 1 221 938 700
    - naval attaché
    Captain First Rank Dmitriev2
    ..................................... 53 924 600
    - to the Embassy of the Russian Empire ............................................. 4 102
    - Artur Rafalovich ............................................... ...................... 9 554 300
    - State Treasury of France (Creusot
    and the purchase of Romanian oil in March 1915) .................... 48 780 000
    - postage, storage fees ....................................... 596
    [Total:] 2 [FR]
    this is only France, and there were also loans from England, the United States, etc.
    2. In total, before the beginning of 1918, Russia received from France over 740 guns, more than 8 million shells, about the same number of hand grenades, 206 million rounds of ammunition, more than 800 aircraft and 2060 aircraft engines, up to 600 cars. Thus, France was ordered up to a third of all shells, from there
    received about 30% of all the guns purchased abroad at that time.
    3. If Russia had not launched an offensive against Prussia in 1914, the Hans, having dealt with France, would have simply transferred troops to the Eastern Front and defeated Russia. In 1915, only part of the German troops was transferred to our front and the Russian army suffered a severe defeat from which it did not withdraw until the end of the war.
    4. Germany was the initiator of the war and the repetition of the idea that the Anglo-Saxons do not allow the Germans and Russians to live in peace is an old worn-out nonsense.
    5. Is Rasputin a prominent Russian politician? Nikolai would be very surprised to read your article. Rasputin is an exaggerated figure from the yellow de-schizoid press. Like Nemtsov. That one was also shot when he was hanging out with another lady.
    And further, and other ..... Article agitation, political officer.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 5 March 2021 09: 16
      0
      and the Russian army suffered a severe defeat from which it did not withdraw until the end of the war.


      Well, when the adherents of the RCMP say that there was no 41st in WWI, they do not realize a little that such means of a fast offensive as a mech. there was no connection then, and, most importantly, Russia then was not the main front. The Germans crowded in with all their might (that the French and the British in WWII provided them with no allied guarantees for the USSR in 1939, for which they themselves paid, and they set us up), then the Russian soldiers would have fought for 3-4 months, and then, when it was over would a mob. stock, would have run to the Urals ahead of their own screeching.
  • andrew42
    andrew42 1 March 2021 11: 52
    0
    Private 89, such a verse in the subject!
    Yesenin spoke very succinctly:
    "Monarchy! Ominous stench!
    Feast after feast went on for centuries.
    And the aristocrat sold the power
    Industrialists and bankers.
    The people groaned, and into this horror
    The country was waiting for someone ... "
    And Samsonov, in general, repeated this in his article.
    Well done Alexander, always trying to raise us above the forest, in spite of the numerous experts of narrow cases, sticking us into details in order to force us to look for pearl grain in dung heaps, and gnaw over the dug-out husk.
    Quo prodest / Who benefits from - any research should end with an answer to this last question from the list of Roman law. Otherwise, any research and debate has no human meaning.
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 1 March 2021 15: 54
    -1
    It sounds so pathetic, just disgusting. We were living and we were deceived by all and sundry, we were fucked, fucked and weaved in all positions. If we were really so pathetic that there was no patriotic force that was ready to get machine guns and send a couple of thousand (and if necessary, hundreds of thousands, although I am sure that there were a minimum of traitors) conspirators (Usual smerd bv immediately to their homes ran away), it means that RI was destined to disintegrate for the strongest survives. By the way, we were just pathetic weaklings, which of course was not the case. we are always saving someone, but we must not save, but capture and take control. and the damn scum on izh filthy foggy Albonne had to be sent to the analys of history a hundred times already, or it is better to delete them from history altogether. our eternal enemy ... vile, vile, crafty ... devil in one word.
  • nnz226
    nnz226 1 March 2021 21: 05
    +1
    "Tsarskoye Selo gopher" Nikolashka for 23 years of rule brought the country to two revolutions, and then the third happened. And they still managed to rank him among the saints, although, apart from spitting on the grave, he does not deserve more!
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 5 March 2021 09: 06
    0
    Bad generals came and overthrew the king. Like in the recent film "Gentlemen" from Guy Ritchie it was: "Gravity killed him." Here, at least 100 years ago (in 1814-15, the authority of the authorities after the military victory was up to the skies) it is necessary to dig how the Republic of Ingushetia came to this. Otherwise, you will be illiterate, like the Lube group, which also had “Ekaterina was wrong”, that she sold Kamchatka (apparently from the other world) and “why the tsar was driven out, then Russia cannot be understood”.
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 26 2021 08: 47
    -1
    As always. If you don't know what to write, blame everything on the Anglo-Saxons.
    There are no facts, no statistics, only "water on wood ...."

    And that the Anglican ambassador ran in the winter, warned - that you do what, you will have a revolution ... neither nor. not fashionable ...