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"A very big misunderstanding": The USA spoke about the USSR's readiness to start a nuclear war

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"A very big misunderstanding": The USA spoke about the USSR's readiness to start a nuclear war

The USSR could have unleashed a nuclear war in 1983, writes the American edition of The Drive with reference to declassified documents of the US State Department.


According to the documents, in 1983, an unstable situation developed in Europe. In early November 1983, the USSR Air Force deployed about a hundred aircraft with nuclear weapons on the territory of the GDR. weapons on board, ready "for immediate use," only an order from Moscow was expected.

Aircraft from the 16th Air Red Banner Army were put on high alert and, if ordered, had to destroy enemy targets on the first line

- stated in the Presidential Advisory Board on US Foreign Intelligence (PFIAB)

The reason for this was a "very serious misunderstanding" arising from the NATO exercise Able Archer 83, which aimed to test the ability of the alliance forces "to wage nuclear wars across Europe and beyond in a very realistic manner."

In 1983, we could have inadvertently put our relationship with the Soviet Union on the verge of a nuclear war

- the document says.

Earlier, the Pentagon allowed the start of a nuclear war in the event of a clash between the United States and its main adversaries, by which they mean Russia and China. As noted, the risk of the threat of a nuclear collision in recent years has become more and more real.
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  1. Dread
    Dread 24 February 2021 15: 20
    +19
    In 1983, we could have inadvertently put our relationship with the Soviet Union on the verge of a nuclear war

    The striped ones, as always, do not see the beam in their own eyes. 1983 - the beginning of SDI.
    1. Destiny
      Destiny 24 February 2021 15: 31
      +21
      "wage nuclear wars across Europe and beyond in a very realistic manner."

      They could have brought a realistic war back then, realists, damn it. And Reagan they still had that joker ... I remember perfectly:
      "My fellow Americans, I am pleased to inform you today that I signed a decree outlawing Russia forever. The bombardment will begin in five minutes."
      They are always from a sore head to a healthy one ..
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 24 February 2021 15: 40
        +8
        This is a long tradition. And traditions must be honored.
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 24 February 2021 16: 24
          +9
          Americans - as always - blatantly lie and shift accents, substitute cause and effect. Neither the USSR was ready, nor Russia was ready start nuclear war. But always the USSR was, and Russia is in constant readiness reply!!!
    2. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 24 February 2021 16: 17
      +1
      Quote: Dread
      The striped ones, as always, do not see the beam in their own eyes. 1983 - the beginning of SDI.

      And yet - this is exactly the period when Andropov was actively bargaining with the West, making all sorts of threatening gestures.
    3. LVMI1980
      LVMI1980 24 February 2021 16: 23
      +7
      this time of the Pershing placement - it was a reality, and soybeans were still on the horizon
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 16: 45
      +8
      Quote: Dread
      The striped ones, as always, do not see the beam in their own eyes. 1983 - the beginning of SDI.

      If they have plans for a nuclear bombing, starting in 1948, they still lie on the Pentagon table to this day.
    5. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 25 February 2021 13: 53
      +3
      "... 1983 - the beginning of SDI.
      ..."

      - While the "striped" put forward various "strategic initiatives".
      USSR - just WORKED ... Everyday. According to plans ...

      In the early 70s, KBKhA began developing high-power cw gas-dynamic CO2 lasers. The gas-dynamic laser operates on the principle of converting the thermal energy of the active gas medium obtained during the nonequilibrium expansion of the mixture in a supersonic nozzle array into electromagnetic radiation. one hundred copyright certificates for inventions received by the enterprise.

      The work was started on the initiative of Academicians of the USSR Academy of Sciences A.M. Prokhorov and B.V.Bunkin. A gas-dynamic CO2 laser was created using the initial gaseous components CO + air + nitrogen with the addition of ethyl alcohol.

      In 1972, for the first time in the country, the first generation of radiation was obtained on a model installation with a flow rate of a working mixture of 5 kg / sec, and already in 1973, tests of a gas-dynamic laser with a flow rate of 20 kg / sec began.

      A 1 MW continuous gas-dynamic CO laser developed by KBKhimavtomatika (KBKhA) with a power of 17 MW was created as part of the Astrophysics program on a space-based laser installation for the 19F0600D Skif-D space station. KBKhA has created an onboard space gas-dynamic laser RD-10,6, which operates on gaseous propellants (leading designers - V.P. Koshelnikov, G.I. Zavizion, V.Yu. Guterman). A high-power laser operating on the principle of converting the thermal energy of an active gas medium obtained during nonequilibrium expansion in a supersonic nozzle array into electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength of 0600 microns. GDL RD-0600 has undergone a full cycle of bench testing at a special stand with an optical path. It is possible that tests of the prototype of the RD-100 CO laser with a power of 1 kW were carried out at the 1AXNUMX flying laboratory.

      The chief designer of the 1A2 aircraft-flying laboratory based on the Il-76MD is N.A. Stepanov, the deputy chief designer is V.D. Zaremba, the leading designer is Yu.A. Bondarev. The development of an aircraft-flying laboratory began at the OKB im. G.M.Beriev in 1977. The lead developer of the megawatt-class laser installation was NPO Astrophysics - testing of the prototype of the installation intended for placement on the Skif space station was carried out on the 1A1 laboratory aircraft. The laser itself had a power of 1 MW.

      A family of bench models of GDL with a radiation power from 10 to 600 kW with a specific power output of 5-10 J / g, as well as (ONBOARD !!!) space GDL RD-0600, operating on gaseous propellants with a CONTINUOUS power of 600 kW, has been created. GDL RD-0600 has undergone a full range of bench testing. To test the GDT, a special stand with an optical path was created to study the interaction of radiation with various materials. The test bench has worked out a technique for aligning mirrors, measuring GDT parameters, focusing a beam on an object.

      We put a steel plate in a palm thick, turned on the laser and burned a through hole of about 50x50 mm "

      TTX RD-0600:
      Radiation power - 100 kW
      The oxidizing agent is oxygen
      Fuel - Gaseous Carbon Monoxide
      Ballast - nitrogen gas
      Gas temperature in the generator - 1580 K
      Total fuel consumption - 12 kg / s
      Length - 1820 mm
      Width - 2140 mm
      Height - 680 mm

      The results of work in the field of GDL, obtained at the enterprise, were a prerequisite for the release of a decree of the Government of the USSR. KBKhA was designated as the head enterprise for the creation of gas-dynamic lasers for the Skif space complex (general developer of the Salyut KB complex).

      In 1985, the laser was manufactured and passed all types of ground tests.
      And then came the "perestroika" and all work was STOPPED.

      The USSR - WON the "arms race", but there was nothing to defend with this weapon ...
      8 - ((
      1. businessv
        businessv 26 February 2021 09: 24
        0
        Quote: tikhonov66
        USSR - WON the "arms race", but there was nothing to defend with this weapon ... 8 - ((
        Interesting post! Do you want to post an article here? An interesting but little-known topic. The post will be read by hundreds, the article by thousands. Modify, write! good
    6. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 26 February 2021 10: 47
      0
      HIROSHIMA NAGASAKI. That says it all. And you can say and blame anything and anyone.
  2. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 24 February 2021 15: 22
    +11
    An attempt to ideologically shift the blame for the collapse of the USSR onto us ... because they wanted and could unleash ... and the larger the lies, the easier it is to sell them because they do not bother themselves with evidence
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 24 February 2021 15: 31
      +4
      Quote: silberwolf88
      An attempt to ideologically shift the blame for the collapse of the USSR onto us ...

      Excuse me, whose fault is it? Americans, or what? Themselves and destroyed the USSR, and the United States just "warmed his hands" well on this. Those traitors who destroyed the USSR have not gone anywhere, are not hiding, some of them the head of state bears flowers on the grave and fiery speeches about democracy are pushing there.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 24 February 2021 15: 51
        -1
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Those traitors who destroyed the USSR have not gone anywhere, are not hiding, some of them the head of state bears flowers on the grave and fiery speeches about democracy are pushing there.

        That is, the Supreme Presidium of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee has nothing to do with it?
        Was the USSR such a superpower that it glued the flippers in just five years with the efforts of just a few people?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 February 2021 15: 56
          +3
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          That is, the Supreme Presidium of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee has nothing to do with it?
          Was the USSR such a superpower that it glued the flippers in just five years with the efforts of just a few people?

          Did I say that? There are almost all of them, and not only members of the Politburo.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 24 February 2021 16: 03
            +2
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            There are almost all of them, and not only members of the Politburo.

            How can you not remember O. Henry "The Trust That Burst"? As Jeff Peters said, "A trust can only be split from the inside."
            This is exactly what happened with the Union
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 24 February 2021 15: 57
          +11
          We cannot gobble up the remnants of his inheritance for 30 years and cannot plunder. Despite the heroic efforts of the leaders ... So irony is not appropriate here - the USSR was precisely that superpower.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 24 February 2021 16: 00
            +9
            Quote: paul3390
            So irony is not appropriate here - the USSR was precisely that superpower.

            No irony. The USSR was a superpower. But to blame only any Gorbachevs / Yeltsins for its collapse, and the Americans with oil, is at least stupid.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 16: 46
      0
      Quote: silberwolf88
      An attempt to ideologically shift the blame for the collapse of the USSR onto us

      And if America collapses, then again Russia will be guilty.
      1. oldzek
        oldzek 24 February 2021 22: 45
        +3
        I remember the statement of Leo Tolstoy: "nothing is a reason and everything is a reason" and the Politburo and the Americans together dragged the USSR to collapse. So I see that time.
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 24 February 2021 15: 23
    +12
    If they had caught on then, they wouldn’t be on the internet now ... There were aaaaam more charges than now ...
    And with the current arsenals, it will not seem a little either!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 16: 48
      +4
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      If they had caught on then, they wouldn’t be on the internet now .... The charges were aaaam much more than now ..

      Therefore, they have a "point" and played.
  4. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 February 2021 15: 25
    +12
    laughing The totem of "common people" began to play with new colors, the main thing is to blame it on a healthy UGH.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 16: 50
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      The totem of "common people" began to play with new colors, the main thing is to blame it on a healthy UGH.

      The colors are the same, but the shade is different - the colors of the rainbow.
  5. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 24 February 2021 15: 27
    +11
    They spoke on the accusation and .... HIROSIMA, NAGASAKI.
    1. Private SA
      Private SA 24 February 2021 15: 54
      +4
      And the "Dropshot" plan to drop 200 tons of atomic bombs on the main cities
      Soviet Union.
  6. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 24 February 2021 15: 27
    +12
    A nuclear war may well arise now ... not only Russia and the United States have nuclear weapons, and it is not a fact that the exchange of nuclear strikes will begin between the United States and Russia.
    The USA, France, England, Israel may well use nuclear weapons against Iran or North Korea under certain conditions.
    Do not forget that the United States has already used nuclear weapons against the civilian population of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ... and only the fear of a retaliatory nuclear weapons strike stops the Anglo-Saxons from attacking Russia and China.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 16: 52
      +1
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      The USA, France, England, Israel may well use nuclear weapons against Iran or North Korea under certain conditions.

      Anything can be, but one cannot be _ Israel will never strike the DPRK.
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 24 February 2021 15: 38
    +4
    "A very big misunderstanding": The USA spoke about the USSR's readiness to start a nuclear war

    Who expressed this big misunderstanding, the American edition of The Drive or the US State Department? It is worth recalling a little what and how the main "peacekeepers" themselves planned - Totality, Chariotir, Dropshot
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 17: 05
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      Who expressed this big misunderstanding, the American edition of The Drive or the US State Department?

      I will not repeat ...
  8. Ewiak ryzzard
    Ewiak ryzzard 24 February 2021 15: 44
    +3
    Since 1945 (Operation Unthinkable) Heaven holds back the wind of World War III. And this will continue until the appointed time. In the book of Daniel we read: “And both these kings [Russia and Great Britain] will turn their hearts to harm, and at the table they will speak deception alone, but [they will not be able to carry out these terrible plans]. Indeed, there is still the end [the last period of time] before the appointed time. And [the king of the north] will return to his land with great movable property [1945. This detail indicated that after previous victories Hitler would attack the Soviet Union and fight until the bitter end], and his heart was against the saint's covenant [there was state atheism in the USSR at that time, and the believers were repressed], and would act [this means great activity on international arena], and will return to their land [1991-1993. The collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, troops from military bases returned to their land]. At the appointed time, he will return back [this means the strengthening of Russia's positions and a significant weakening of the United States. Russia will again have military bases abroad. It also means a crisis that will eclipse the Great Depression. Not only the eurozone will collapse, but also the EU and NATO. Many countries of the former Eastern Bloc will return to a military alliance with Russia]. And it will go south [this will be the beginning of the Third World War. The detonator will be the ethnic conflict south of the Russian borders (Matthew 24: 7)], but it will not be the same [Georgia - 2008] and later [Ukraine], because the residents of the Kittim shores [Americans] will come against it, and [he] it will break [lose heart] and return ”(11: 27-30a). The US will attack Russia, but not destroy it. It will be a mutual massacre. This time it will be a world war not only in name. The world will be taken from the earth and the “great sword” used (Revelation 6: 4).
  9. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 24 February 2021 15: 45
    +10
    Of course, the main thing is to point your finger in our direction.
    Of course, the USSR could have unleashed a nuclear war, who else.
    And they have nothing to do with it, just a misunderstanding happened.
    Well done at least admitted that they themselves arranged this misunderstanding by their actions. But all the same, these Russians are to blame.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 17: 07
      +4
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Of course, the main thing is to point your finger in our direction.

      The United States was not yet born, and the Anglo-Saxons were always "spitting" in our direction.
  10. askort154
    askort154 24 February 2021 16: 09
    +7
    In early November 1983, the USSR Air Force deployed about a hundred aircraft with nuclear weapons on board, ready "for immediate use," on the territory of the GDR, only an order from Moscow was expected.


    And how many NATO planes, today ready to carry nuclear weapons, from Europe against Russia ?! For Western media - the mouth is closed.
    It is time for Europeans to know geography, at least a little more than Psaki. fool
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 17: 13
      +1
      Quote: askort154
      And how many NATO planes, today ready to carry nuclear weapons, from Europe against Russia ?! For Western media - the mouth is closed

      Here I like the anecdote about L. Brezhnev - "L. I. USA attacked us!" L.I. - "Bring in a nuclear suitcase!" Brezhnev hits the keys of the suitan and sings "This is the day of victory, it smelled like steam ...!" Although a joke, but what a pleasure ...
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 February 2021 16: 10
    +2
    From a sore head to a healthy one. In those days, if someone was conducting exercises, then from the opposite side, the partner also pulled up. He brought in reserves. These aircraft were at the airfields so that the States would not be the first to start. And at that time NATO had more aviation. We were only ahead. on tanks and barreled artillery. Stop lying.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 17: 26
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      In those days, if someone was conducting an exercise, then from the opposite side, the partner also pulled himself up and brought up the reserves.

      I am after Len MU RP. a young Mamley of the 94th brigade of minesweepers, took part in the Dvina exercises in 1970, in the BSSR with the participation of all branches of the military and forces of the Moscow, Leningrad, Belorussian, Baltic and North Caucasian military districts.
      These were the teachings !!! Wt it was the power of the USSR !!!
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 24 February 2021 17: 31
        +1
        The ground shook from the West 81 on the other side of the planet.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 24 February 2021 17: 36
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          The ground shook from the West 81 on the other side of the planet.

          From Kaliningrad to the Atlantic Ocean there was only "calm", and not a single pad ... la opened her mouth.
  12. evgen1221
    evgen1221 24 February 2021 16: 29
    +6
    Logic 80lvl. If there are a lot of our cars at the airfield, it is the Kremlin that is about to start fighting. And if the same dofiga in neighboring Turkey, then the Americans are not preparing to fight, and generally mimocrocodile there. Bravissimo!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 17: 38
      +1
      Quote: evgen1221
      this is the Kremlin

      Ask ..
      The Kremlin is always written with a capital letter.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 24 February 2021 18: 03
        -3
        Forgive me, this is when you treat him with respect and reverence, then yes with a capital letter. So much that is not there, do not judge literally fair fellow citizens.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 24 February 2021 18: 29
          +3
          Quote: evgen1221
          Forgive, it is when you treat him with respect and reverence, then yes with a capital letter.

          Sorry, but you are not a Russian person. The Kremlin is a Power, not a person and not a power. I do not like insults to the memory of Russia.
          1. evgen1221
            evgen1221 24 February 2021 19: 06
            -2
            Yeah, so the power in (the Kremlin-special for you wrote with a capital letter) you kind of welcome, while you are not at all bothered by the dropping of Lenin's mausoleum? this pouring into the ears patriotism to the history of this homeland, these ee notice the highest officials of the state. And who is this mausoleum that prevents them NOT to close-razporryazheniya because of the hillock? (Oh, then whose decrees are they carrying out?, Did they think of it? Yes, they do the will of the people, so the whole country gets excited about it, and is puzzled about why this is so. Questions, questions, questions and these people will forbid me to pick my nose (quote from the classics of Russian literature)
  13. arhitroll
    arhitroll 24 February 2021 16: 43
    +3
    Our grandfathers had more piyusny of course ...
  14. Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 February 2021 16: 48
    +3
    Lying striped, we do not want war, because we know its price. And you have never fought on your land, you are thinking of sitting out behind a puddle. And not a damn thing comes out, we'll get it. negative
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 17: 39
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      , we do not want war, because we know its price.

      They don't lie, they just - "cheat".
  15. HAM
    HAM 24 February 2021 17: 08
    +5
    Milosevic did not suit, they defeated Yugoslavia, Gaddafi did not like it, they destroyed Libya, Hussein was hanged along with the country ... you can still continue to list the destroyed countries ... and now Eun crossed the road, but Eun has nuclear weapons, it's scary, but suddenly will answer ... that's not touched.
    Now they have taken over Iran ..... how it will end is unclear.
    China, for now, they do not take into account militarily, but in vain ...
    Russia is the eternal enemy of "kolwesta", here they can just "unintentionally" unleash JV ... only this is suicide while they understand this, although everyone can be expected from old senile presidents ...
    Even if Putin is not in power, we will never be brothers, either by blood or by mother, with the West ...
    There is no need to harbor liberal illusions.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 February 2021 17: 43
      +4
      Quote: HAM
      Did not suit Milosevic, defeated Yugoslavia, did not like Gaddafi, destroyed Libya

      Everything that is against American "democracy", and their way of life, and against their animal desire, to live at someone else's expense, this is the USA.
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 24 February 2021 17: 55
    +1
    - stated in the Presidential Advisory Board on US Foreign Intelligence (PFIAB)

    Come on, those guys lie as they breathe, as they breathe and lie!
    Russia has always said and continues to say that a retaliatory strike will only occur if aggression is carried out against it.
    Don't attack, don't get a response.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 24 February 2021 18: 12
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      Come on, those guys lie as they breathe, as they breathe and lie!

      Yes exactly.
      In 1981-1982, mass retraining began on the Su-24 in the SGV (4 VA) and GSVG (16VA)
      As a result, by 1983, Kshiva, Zhagan and Shprotava were retrained in Poland, and Brandt in Germany, and the old Su-7s were replaced with MiG-27s.
      It was a great striking force that cooled the aggressive militaristic aspirations of the American vultures.
      Ground training of flight and engineering personnel with special equipment is of a permanent nature, and does not depend on the location.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 February 2021 18: 27
        +4
        Now it's just stupid to talk about Russia's aggressiveness ... they are bigger, much richer, anyway.
        We did not bring our military infrastructure closer to their borders, quite the opposite ...
        This is a useless argument, for a long time, and forever, perhaps.
  17. iouris
    iouris 24 February 2021 20: 07
    -2
    This is not us, but they. But in 1985 we were already ready to surrender everyone and surrender.
  18. Valter1364
    Valter1364 26 February 2021 10: 52
    0
    A very simple and effective policy for the Naglo-Saxons is to turn everything upside down.
  19. Last centurion
    Last centurion 26 February 2021 12: 40
    0
    Is it okay to conduct nuclear bombing exercises near the border? ... They turned everything over. Turn upside down. Cause and effect. Of course, if only under the guise of exercises the Americans started a real nuclear war, they would have been turned into nuclear ashes in response. And this can happen at any time even at 83 right now. That's what containment is.