In the Polish press: Middle East doesn't want to buy Russian Su-57 fighter

The Polish press decided to publish material that would put a spoke in the wheels of Russian military-technical exports in terms of information. An article was published in the military-themed publication Defense24, which concerns the presentation of the fifth-generation Russian fighter Su-57 at the IDEX-2021 international exhibition, which is taking place in Abu Dhabi (UAE) these days.

According to the Polish author, despite the fact that Russia is trying to promote its fighter to the foreign market, including the Asian market, "the Middle East does not want to buy the Russian Su-57."

The Polish press stated that Russia "had problems exporting its fighter."

From an article in Defense24:

The Middle East is considered the most important market for the products of the Russian defense industry. Especially when it comes to combat aircraft and the Su-57 in particular. But so far Russia is having problems in this regard.

It is noted that some of the Middle Eastern countries intend to receive an American-made F-35, and some are considering the possibility of acquiring a Chinese J-20.

At the same time, the Polish observer does not indicate which countries in the Middle East are going to buy a Chinese fighter, called in China itself a "new generation" fighter.

Polish press:

Earlier, India withdrew from the FGFA joint program with Russia. Turkey is now showing its disinterest in acquiring the Su-57 from Russia. Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are aiming to buy the F-35, were not interested in the aircraft. And the UAE itself, where the arms exhibition is being held, has not yet shown interest in the Russian fighter.

In the comments to this material, Polish readers note that in the same Middle East, they may show interest in the Su-57 after they appear in the final version of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

Comments

[Aerodrome]

In the Polish press: Middle East doesn't want to buy Russian Su-57 fighter

Why print silly fabrications here?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aerodrome

Why print silly fabrications here?

Right, what can you expect from the Polish vassals of the United States? They cannot say a single word without permission.

[dSK]

So what? The Russian army will receive more, while only 1 (one) aircraft was transferred to it ...

[Kaman]

I am very glad that Perdogan was refused the purchase of the F-35. The Turkish sultan does not need such dangerous toys.

[Nikon O'Conor]

I do not agree, judging by the information that has been discussed for a long time, the cars are so-so.
Let me remind you of one saying: "If you want to ruin a small country - give it a cruiser"
And Turkey would have bought the "cruiser" itself, not to say of course that it is a small country, but the Britons can hardly pull the 35th

[hydrox]

It’s not so much even that, as horse-drawn carts, which are familiar to Polish experts.
And then it turns out it is necessary to "shoot" a Russian super-duper world-class fighter - well, what can you hear from this mumbled, if he is not at all aware of the question of what it is, what it is intended for and what performance characteristics it has?

[WIKI]

Abu Dhabi, February 22. / TASS /. The Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation has received a number of applications from foreign customers for the Su-57e multipurpose fighter, an official representative of the service at the IDEX-2021 international arms exhibition told TASS. "Inquiries have been received regarding Su-57e aircraft, although there are no Middle East countries among them."
https://tass.com/defense/1259343

[WIKI]

I don't want the Internet to turn into a trash heap with the help of VO.

[Pilot]

There are also quite healthy ones.

In the comments to this material, Polish readers note that in the same Middle East, they may show interest in the Su-57 after they appear in the final version of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

And we are trying to arrange everything the other way around, first provide your army with the latest technology and then use castrates as much as you like. The traders are insatiable. !
ps Wait, the brave apologists of the wild market will howl, like there is no money for hard workers and bulk sabotage in production suits ...

[lucul]

ps Wait, the brave apologists of the wild market will howl, like there is no money for hard workers and bulk sabotage in production suits ..

Personally, I am against the sale of my weapons abroad - the income received does not cover the leakage of technology when selling weapons.

[Roma 1977]

It depends on whom to sell. Many countries cannot even copy the finished product technologically. But China may, but not all. In addition, there are undeveloped countries that easily provide access to Russian weapons to representatives of technologically advanced powers hostile to Russia. Arms trade is not about eating lobio, as the Georgians say.

[El Chuvachino]

You definitely don't have the slightest idea of ​​how the market works

[Pilot]

Quote: El Chuvachino

You definitely don't have the slightest idea of ​​how the market works

You are confusing the security of the country with the bazaar, but not only you and this is regrettable.

[El Chuvachino]

On the fingers for the stubborn:

Refusing to export technology, there will be no more of it in your own country. Such international contracts take not a year or two, especially when it comes to custom versions of a high-tech product. It takes time for the approval of the technical specification, development, assembly and production. To refuse now means to lose market prospects for the foreseeable future.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pilot

You are confusing the security of the country with the bazaar, but not only you and this is regrettable.

Right. The country's security is the army and its military-industrial complex, and the bazaar is where the aunts sell sunflower seeds.

[svp67]

Quote: Aerodrome

silly fabrications of pshek

Nothing, if they completely "break", with the help of blue electrical tape we can "fix" even Poland

[Insurgent]

Quote: svp67

Nothing, if they completely "break", with the help of blue electrical tape we can "fix" even Poland

Insulating tape, in the hands of a Russian (exclusively blue, and only she), generally a product of incredible properties.
But even with her, you have to start small ...

[Civil]

1. All these Arab countries need where to buy the OMON thread and more so that, following the example of Syria, they are not torn from the inside.
2. Su-57 and ourselves are not enough yet.
3. There is unfair competition from the USA.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Aerodrome

Why print silly fabrications here?

This is what they write for their population ... Assuring them that Russia is unsuccessful in ALL areas ... So they live it. A man in illusions can live a long time ... his whole life can live.

[Terenin]

Quote: Aerodrome

In the Polish press: Middle East doesn't want to buy Russian Su-57 fighter

Why print silly fabrications here?

About the Russian vaccine "Sputnik" Zapad, in unison, howled not such arias.
We are waiting for the end of the next "objective work of art" of Polish soloists. There, at the start, there are already "aircraft specialists" from the Baltic states

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Terenin

About the Russian vaccine "Sputnik" Zapad, in unison, howled not such arias.

When trouble has come to the world, it needs to be destroyed by the whole world, but not one by one with shouts - "Mine is better!"

[Terenin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Terenin

About the Russian vaccine "Sputnik" Zapad, in unison, howled not such arias.

When trouble has come to the world, it needs to be destroyed by the whole world, but not one by one with shouts - "Mine is better!"

Who can argue. But the international "choir of boys and girls" is not with us. Although during the break between performances they run to get used to "Sputnik" and again into a paid howl.

[Nikon O'Conor]

Even more, the inventions of the pshek, about the opinion of the Chinese:

Chinese fighter, called in China itself a "new generation" fighter.

In China, and the New Year in February, the Middle East, according to the Polish press, is also celebrating? (sarcasm in general ...)

[Vladimir_2U]

Is it not the Ministry of Polish Colonies broadcasting this? Before the war, it was common for the panovs, those are still dreamers!

[Flooding]

Here are the titles of just some of the Defense24 articles for January-February:
- Moscow acts subtly in Belarus
- "Nord Stream 2" should be named after Merkel
- French-Russian war for Africa
Russia is not ignored))

[NDR-791]

- "Nord Stream 2" should be named after Merkel
OFF !!!

[Jacket in stock]

The Polish press decided to publish material that would put a spoke in the wheel of Russian military-technical exports in terms of information.

Straight sticks? Straight into the wheels?
Someone will read and immediately change their mind about buying Russian planes?
Funny.

[Destiny]

Indeed, it is unlikely that aircraft buyers purchase aircraft solely by listening to the opinion of the press. And as for the SA, UAE and Qatar, they have all aircraft with helicopters from the USA and Europe, but the aviation market is not only the Gulf countries, which are traditionally under the United States. Let's see what the results of IDEX-2021 will be ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Someone will read and immediately change their mind about buying Russian planes?
Funny.

To buy a ram, you need to go around all the bazaars and choose the best ram.

[Cowbra]

I heard here recently that the whole of Europe does not want to buy Russian gas, but wants American gas - and buy only from psheprashems. A couple of weeks ago, the psheprashems themselves wrote that Gazprom sold twice as much gas to Poland in January as usual ...
So, especially considering the news that the US has officially admitted that they screwed up with the 5th generation ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Cowbra

I heard here recently that the whole of Europe does not want to buy Russian gas, but wants American gas - and buy only from psheprashems.

It’s simple Europe has forgotten the ancient Arabic proverb “Walk through the bazaar and find the best, but not the cheapest, product”.

[Jacket in stock]

Earlier, India withdrew from the FGFA joint program with Russia. Turkey is now showing its disinterest in acquiring the Su-57 from Russia. Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are aiming to buy the F-35, were not interested in the aircraft. And the UAE itself, where the arms exhibition is being held, has not yet shown interest in the Russian fighter.

Except for India, the other countries mentioned have never bought anything, or almost, from us.
Again, the KLA said that even if someone wants to, they will not be able to do it very soon. Those. Su-57 is practically not offered especially, so, for the richness of the assortment.

[askort154]

It is a shame for the Polish "Panamas" to be on the sidelines of world events.
And I want, and pricks, but to be independent in the thick of these events, the "great Poland" had no prospects, and no. So the "Panamas" have to portray faithful dogs, to please the new owner.

[Vlad5307]

Did they survey potential buyers? Invented to please their masters. But so no one will take a car that has not yet been received in the Russian Aerospace Forces in the required volume. But it is already necessary to arrange a bride show so that they can evaluate in comparison with the Fu-22 \ 35 and the quality and operational capabilities, etc. And here Su -57 will be more profitable. The Indians are already thinking about purchasing, but they are of course still the "dancers" of the market. Product promotion is not a matter of one day. Wait and see.

[rocket757]

The Polish press stated that Russia "had problems exporting its fighter."

Well, yes, vyaknut in advance ... lucky the cardinal.
gallanther, what to take from him ...

[yehat2]

no sales of su-57 were planned - when did these "sales" get problems ???
Yes, the Indians made the development of the project slower, but the sales of the REDUCED VERSION of the su-57 are just beginning to plan.
In addition, a huge question is whether China wants to sell the j-20 in the next 7 years, they need to butt with the USA, Japan, Taiwan, India, Vietnam, and under these conditions the secrecy of this project will cost no less than some sales.

[A. Privalov]

Without any relation to the articles of the treacherous-zhurnalyug thus earning their bread.
Let's be realistic for a minute. Here are the countries of the Middle East: Bahrain, Egypt, Yemen, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Qatar, Kuwait, Lebanon, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Republic of Cyprus, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey. Which of them, besides those who have already decided on the F-35, can afford to buy the Su-57?

[outsider]

They can afford: Bahrain, Egypt, Israel, Iran, Qatar, Kuwait, Lebanon, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey.
The question must be posed differently: which of them wants ?! So far - no one ...

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Outsider

They can afford: Bahrain, Egypt, Israel, Iran, Qatar, Kuwait, Lebanon, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey.
The question must be posed differently: which of them wants ?! So far - no one ...

Beggars and hungry - like Syria and Lebanon, would like very much, but cannot afford.
The rich and well-off - like Israel and Saudi Arabia - can afford it, but they don't want to. Etc. by the list.

[outsider]

- Why the poor and hungry Su-57? There is neither money to buy it, nor to support it - this also requires money. When the raja wanted to punish his subordinate, he gave him a white elephant ... And the poor man had to turn himself out of his skin in order to keep the royal gift properly ...
And nobody wants to buy the Su-57 for the most elementary reason: its stealth characteristics do not match the stealth level at all... That is: they are no better, for example, than Raphael, or Eurofighter. So why buy it? Nobody lined up for him ... He is not needed by his own Air Force for the same reason.
Everything is very simple.

[A. Privalov]

You only confirm my thesis: some - cannot, others - do not want.

[dzvero]

If in installments, yes with Russian money, then everyone will stand in line Seriously though, the most likely ones are Turkey and Iran, possibly Egypt. Eventually, someone from the small fry of the Gulf will order a squadron for show-off and with crazy hands will ruin the reputation of the aircraft ... like I did everything right, but the buttons of the wrong system, and the ground is something that just crawls into my mouth ...

[pytar]

The Polish press decided to publish material that would put a spoke in the wheel of Russian military-technical exports in terms of information. An article was published in the military-themed publication Defense24 ...

If a publication in some little-known Polish magazine can somehow affect the Russian military-technical export, it's not worth a penny ... Hardly anyone in the Middle East reads Polish Defense24, why are you quoting it here? So that they have a reason to scold the Poles more than once? Can't live without it?

[K-50]

In the Polish press: Middle East doesn't want to buy Russian Su-57 fighter

So no one is selling yet.
Pshe kam just to blurt out something against Muscovy, and there at least the grass will not grow.

[pytar]

Pshe kam just to blurt out something against Muscovy, and there at least the grass will not grow.

Isn't it so in Muscovy, chtoli? Look through the rus-media, you can go nuts! Yes, you just here on the forum look at what they write for the Poles! There is no station under which some people were not rude!

[Constanty]

Out of curiosity, I looked at the article on defense24.pl and I see that this is not the opinion of the Polish press, but rather an official statement of a Russian official.

“There were requests for the Su-57E, but not a single Middle East country was among them. Nevertheless, foreign customers in the region showed interest in its design, ”- a representative of the Military-Technical Cooperation Service told TASS.

[pytar]

Out of curiosity, I looked at the article on defense24.pl and I see that this is not the opinion of the Polish press, but rather an official statement of a Russian official.

Exactly!

The publication on VO is designed for people who do not have the skills to check the information. Aimed at inciting anti-Polish sentiments, and enthusiastically received by members of the forum of the appropriate profile ...

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: pytar

The publication on VO is designed for people who do not have the skills to check the information. Aims at stirring up anti-Polish sentiment

It makes no sense for our media to "incite anti-Polish sentiments." The Poles themselves successfully cope with this.
And yes, if you think that some of the Poles' neighbors love them more than the Russians, then this is a delusion. Ask the Germans, Czechs, Ukrainians, Belarusians and Lithuanians.

[migsu]

There is such an ironclad truth in life - "a person with a low IQ pays twice, a person with memory problems - three times, but just with an empty tower - the rest ..."

[Cottodraton]

Nobody really offers it for export yet, but the Poles have already revealed all the subtleties ... miracles
By the way, the Ukrainian press has a similar presentation style ... It is clear who teaches Ukraine

[Zaurbek]

Most likely, China will face the same CAATSA sanctions as the Russian Federation when selling expensive weapons in large quantities.

[Berg berg]

The Middle East does not want to buy the Russian SU-57 because no one offered it to them and will not offer it in the near future. First, the implementation of an internal order will begin until 2027, and only then let them roll their lips and maybe get a trimmed model. And let the psheki envy and beg America for the flightless plywood F-35, which after each flight has to be completely repainted and which disintegrates in flight, so that American pilots are afraid to fly it!

[Growlers]

All right, then Russian problems. And what about the production of the Poles? Are they hoping to get some well-worn "cowards" from the US?

[Mavrikiy]

In the Polish press: Middle East does not want to buy Russian Su-57 fighter

Don't fuss. They will buy and ask for more, but we will give.

[Fitter65]

According to the Polish author, despite the fact that Russia is trying to promote its fighter to the foreign market, including the Asian market, "the Middle East does not want to buy the Russian Su-57."

In reality, the pan does not see anything further than his nose. Su-57 has not yet been offered, but about

Egypt decided to purchase multi-functional Su-35 fighters and related weapons

Although

Whether this statement is true is not known, in Egypt itself they do not comment on the deal.

But in the USA they are again tearing one place for the British flag (although in my opinion they could have their own even stripes there)

The US State Department is concerned about the possible purchase by Egypt of Russian Su-35 fighters. This is stated in a statement by the head of the press service of the State Department Ned Price.

[APASUS]

Great Polish military analysts have made conclusions about the 5th generation fighter. Nobody needs it.

[outsider]

- The Su-57 is not a 5th generation fighter. That is why no one needs him ...

[Gregory Charnota]

the middle east can and wants! they don't tell him!

[Andros]

An extremely sensible article for a site infected with jingoistic patriotism.
I remember our officials also talked about the uselessness of su57 in the presence of su35 ...

[Vissarion Golubov]

And what can the Poles do, except for old armored vehicles? And even beg for the States to send their soldiers and their equipment. Strategists ...

[Solomon Murin]

That does not offer Poland Su 57! Abidna however.

[Dmitry Izmalkov]

If not for your sanctions, the Su-57 would have long been in many countries and in the Aerospace Forces in particular

[Vdi73]

Poland, envy in silence, the F-35 will not be pocketed, and no one will sell the SU-57