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"Weapon of the 80s": Pashinyan criticized the Russian OTRK "Iskander"

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"Weapon of the 80s": Pashinyan criticized the Russian OTRK "Iskander"

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan criticized Iskander operational-tactical complexes (OTRK), purchased by Armenia from Russia. He stated this during an interview with 1in.am.


Answering the relevant question and commenting on the accusation of the ex-President of Armenia Serzh Sargsyan about the untimely use of Iskander by the Armenian authorities during the last military conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, Pashinyan stated that the missiles of the Russian missile systems "are not suitable for use" and "did not explode completely ".

Let him ask the question why the Iskander missile did not explode? Or why did it explode ten percent, for example?

- said the Armenian prime minister, without explaining exactly when and where these cases allegedly occurred, but added that "maybe it is weapon 80s ".

Earlier, former Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan stated that he would have used Iskanders on the fourth day of the war and asked why the missiles of the complex were not used against the oil and gas facilities of Azerbaijan.

It should be noted that Armenia is armed with four Iskander OTRK, purchased from Russia in 2016. Their use during the last armed conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh was reported at the end of November last year by the ex-head of the military control service of the Armenian Defense Ministry Movses Hakobyan.
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  1. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 24 February 2021 06: 57
    +42
    If only something to blurt out in his defense, and the rest to think what he meant and how to translate it into human language.
    1. Cheshire
      Cheshire 24 February 2021 07: 04
      +77
      Barmaley have a different opinion. laughingAlthough for me he is the same barmaley, no education, no experience, no manners.
      In skillful hands and horseradish balalaika.
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 24 February 2021 07: 51
        +16
        Armenian prime minister said
        Who would have mooed ... Critic, damn it
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 24 February 2021 08: 06
          +31
          Well, fir-trees!
          Not only is the state's aspirate itself, but with the hand (oh!) Of a cowardly army that does not want to fight, These scoundrels also demand that the Russians abandon their base in Gyumri!
          Or maybe the Russians should go to the sultan and say: "Take our base, but make sure that there is no smell of Armenian in the Caucasus!"
          Do you need this, Armenians?
          But then you will all have to leave the borders of Russia, if you treat us with such hatred!
          1. aws4
            aws4 24 February 2021 11: 37
            -26%
            what are you hanging? you do not speak for the people, they are as different as they are in Russia .. study the issue then yap
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 24 February 2021 12: 04
              +16
              Not good on your part ...
              Please, on "you", be so kind as to address that neighbor, the inhabitant of your pigsty, next to whom I’m pretty sick now ... sorry, you communicate politely, but the rich Armenians, it seems, are bringing you enough slop ...
              Eat, eat, I will not bother you ...
              1. aws4
                aws4 24 February 2021 12: 08
                -29%
                to someone like you, you can not apply to !!! according to your comments, it is immediately clear who you are and your level .. if you have any questions, write in a personal
                1. hydrox
                  hydrox 24 February 2021 12: 27
                  +13
                  Russia does not need anything from Armenia, but if Russia loses pity and leaves the territory of the Gyumri military base of Armenia, from which the Sorosyat svch demands us to get out, then the Armenians will only have two weeks to live on the land of Armenia - the Sultan will not give you any more - and there will be a road for the Armenians to Australia, the States or France.
                  Only then will the Armenians have to get out of Russia ...
                  And a personal on the territory of such an institution ... Are you kidding me? laughing
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              1. aws4
                aws4 24 February 2021 21: 39
                -7
                who have it? I also live in Russia all my life .. I said what I said is that the people there are as different as in Russia and there are enough freaks here and there, what did you want to say with this video that was deleted? it somehow characterizes which nation? What are you talking about ???
            3. ParapaPanda
              ParapaPanda 24 February 2021 19: 09
              +4
              Well, who put it? People.
              The leader is the face of the people and their will.
              The same will that, it seems, in 2018 demanded the departure of ours from Gyumri
              1. aws4
                aws4 24 February 2021 21: 51
                -5
                do you think the leader of Russia is the face of the people of Russia and their will? if so then we are not one people! are you all crazy here? really do not see what is happening in the country? just do not need to define me in bulk, I understand perfectly well that this is the appointed opposition .. just think about it, grasp the essence, and Putin and Pashinyan and Aliyev do not care about their peoples, they play a game of staying in power opposing peoples to each other. If you and others do not see the problem in Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Russians or Tatars, etc. then you bought into this scam ..
                1. rjpthju
                  rjpthju 25 February 2021 09: 06
                  +3
                  I agree, almost. Look at how the Armenians and Azerbaydzhakans behave in our country. Now, imagine yourself, on their territory, behave the same way. What will become of you? This also applies to the Ukrainians who run around Moscow with their flag. Just try to raise the Russian flag in Kiev. What will become of you? Immediately.
              2. aws4
                aws4 24 February 2021 21: 52
                -4
                oh it's you .. damn didn’t see it right away .. I wouldn’t give an answer
          2. rjpthju
            rjpthju 25 February 2021 09: 00
            0
            Well, then they will take the south of Russia with them. They (Krasnodar Territory) call it Northern Armenia. How many outstanding people will we lose: Poghosyan, Simonyan, Keosayan, etc. Outstanding people. One Superjet sawed, And he did not have anything for it, Ditch the aircraft. Optimizer. Other propaganda leads to the entire West, along with Keosayan, a wonderful director. Here they cut our dough on the film about the Crimean bridge. Our money taken from children and grandmothers ...
            1. aws4
              aws4 25 February 2021 17: 50
              0
              And I'm not going to argue with you .. although for the first time I hear about northern Armenia in the Kuban .. where is northern Armenia? in Kushchevka maybe?))) I myself come from the south and to the Kuban 10 times a year)))))))) I didn’t hear about the fact that the Armenians sawed the superjet too .. But you must understand that the problem is not in the Armenians and Azerbaijanis and not even in individual representatives of these peoples .. the problem is in our government, which makes it possible to do all this ..
            2. aws4
              aws4 25 February 2021 17: 54
              +1
              there is such a concept of a state-forming nation .. and so, in addition to all the troubles, our government forgot that such a nation in Russia is the Russians ..
        2. Commissar77
          Commissar77 24 February 2021 08: 11
          +4
          Can gag on a magpie with Iskander! Check which of the two is unsuitable
        3. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 24 February 2021 08: 40
          +18
          They just chickened out to go to the end.

          And Pashinyan is an ordinary politician-liar.
          1. aws4
            aws4 24 February 2021 11: 39
            -8
            here you are right, the leadership was afraid or there was a conspiracy .. but the Armenian people did not chicken out, he rather became a victim
            1. Incvizitor
              Incvizitor 24 February 2021 11: 54
              +17
              These people themselves poured a wild stupid barmaley into power.
              1. aws4
                aws4 24 February 2021 11: 56
                0
                and here you are right, he cheated them .. they believed the traitor and paid for it
        4. BecmepH
          BecmepH 24 February 2021 10: 18
          +3
          Quote: Mitroha
          Armenian prime minister said
          Who would have mooed ... Critic, damn it

          Pashinyan, Pashinyan .... Who is this?
        5. venik
          venik 24 February 2021 11: 21
          +10
          Quote: Mitroha
          Who would have mooed ... Critic, damn it

          =========
          He is not a critic! He, something like that stupid second lieutenant from the famous movie: first got a kick:


          And then he starts making excuses in style:

          laughing
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      2. RUS96
        RUS96 24 February 2021 09: 17
        +7
        Quote: Cheshire
        In skillful hands and horseradish balalaika.

        I would say differently: "In inept hands and horseradish balalaika" laughing
      3. Professor
        Professor 24 February 2021 10: 03
        -20%
        Quote: Cheshire
        Barmaley have a different opinion.

        Did they tell you that, or did Soloviev tell you?

        Regarding the Iskander, the Azerbaijanis wrote for a long time that not one of them hit the target. It would be better to check the cause of the miss, and not to grumble.
        1. SSR
          SSR 24 February 2021 10: 14
          +12
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Cheshire
          Barmaley have a different opinion.

          Did they tell you that, or did Soloviev tell you?

          Regarding the Iskander, the Azerbaijanis wrote for a long time that not one of them hit the target. It would be better to check the cause of the miss, and not to grumble.

          Have you figured out why the Israeli missile did not hit the bridge?)))
          1. Professor
            Professor 24 February 2021 11: 03
            -7
            Quote: SSR
            Quote: Professor
            Quote: Cheshire
            Barmaley have a different opinion.

            Did they tell you that, or did Soloviev tell you?

            Regarding the Iskander, the Azerbaijanis wrote for a long time that not one of them hit the target. It would be better to check the cause of the miss, and not to grumble.

            Have you figured out why the Israeli missile did not hit the bridge?)))

            Understood. I got it.


            1. Lt. Air Force stock
              Lt. Air Force stock 24 February 2021 12: 20
              +3
              But you can still drive.
              1. Yujanin
                Yujanin 24 February 2021 13: 36
                +1

                But you can still drive.


                KVO "Laura" 10 meters. So that OTRK worked on the top five.
                Another question is why our military leadership did not fire 2-3 rockets across the bridge.
                1. Lt. Air Force stock
                  Lt. Air Force stock 24 February 2021 13: 46
                  +2
                  Quote: Yujanin
                  KVO "Laura" 10 meters. So that OTRK worked on the top five.
                  Another question is why our military leadership did not fire 2-3 missiles across the bridge

                  The 10-meter KVO should be compensated for by a powerful warhead, according to the photo, Laura's warhead did not have enough power to demolish the bridge.
                  1. Yujanin
                    Yujanin 24 February 2021 14: 19
                    +2

                    The 10-meter KVO should be compensated for by a powerful warhead, according to the photo, Laura's warhead did not have enough power to demolish the bridge.

                    Can't you see from the photo that the warhead did not touch the reinforced concrete structure of the bridge, it fell nearby.
                    More precisely, it touched the edge of the bridge.
                    1. Lt. Air Force stock
                      Lt. Air Force stock 24 February 2021 14: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: Yujanin
                      Can't you see from the photo that the warhead did not touch the reinforced concrete structure of the bridge, it fell nearby.
                      More precisely, it touched the edge of the bridge.

                      So what's the contradiction? It would have been more powerful than the shock wave would have demolished the bridge. Previously, when the warheads were not accurate enough, they compensated for the power of the charge. What's the problem with making Laura's more powerful warhead? Now it is not necessary to increase the weight of the warhead, you can use more powerful explosives. For example, the same Hexogen is 1,3-1,6 times more powerful than TNT, Octogen is 1,7 times, Octanitrocubane is 2,38 times. That is, 500 kg of Octanitrocubane is equivalent to 1190 kg of TNT. 1 ton of 200 kg of TNT would blow the bridge apart.
                      1. Yujanin
                        Yujanin 24 February 2021 14: 36
                        +4

                        It would have been more powerful than the shock wave would have demolished the bridge.


                        The shockwave can demolish a light structure rather than a pre-stressed structure that can withstand higher loads.
              2. Professor
                Professor 24 February 2021 14: 54
                -4
                Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
                But you can still drive.

                It was necessary to finish off. The rocket worked normally and caused the damage that such a rocket should have done. There was no nuclear charge there. wink
            2. hydrox
              hydrox 24 February 2021 12: 33
              0
              Professor, is this destruction from a rocket or someone dabbled with a lemon? laughing
              1. Professor
                Professor 24 February 2021 15: 01
                0
                Quote: hydrox
                Professor, is this destruction from a rocket or someone dabbled with a lemon? laughing

                Hopefully not from your own experience? Such destruction should have been left from such a warhead. If I got into the support, the bridge would not have resisted.
                For example, 2006 Lebanon. Hitting the support:


                Right there in the span of the bridge
                1. hydrox
                  hydrox 24 February 2021 18: 59
                  0
                  These pictures are about nothing: What kind of rocket, what is the weight of the charge, how many years has it been in the warehouse, how much fuel has been used up, what is the kinetics?
                  What are you, by God?
                  And thanks for the science.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 24 February 2021 21: 17
                    +1
                    Quote: hydrox
                    These pictures are about nothing: What kind of rocket, what is the weight of the charge, how many years has it been in the warehouse, how much fuel has been used up, what is the kinetics?
                    What are you, by God?
                    And thanks for the science.

                    For you really about nothing. You need to spoon feed. In 4 minutes I found what was bombed, when, where did they hit, what was the mass of the warhead, video of the hit, etc. Lazy mother?
                    1. hydrox
                      hydrox 25 February 2021 07: 45
                      0
                      No, not laziness: just a different specialization, in addition to VO, you also need to do work that feeds. lol
        2. BecmepH
          BecmepH 24 February 2021 10: 19
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Cheshire
          Barmaley have a different opinion.

          Did they tell you that, or did Soloviev tell you?

          Regarding the Iskander, the Azerbaijanis wrote for a long time that not one of them hit the target. It would be better to check the cause of the miss, and not to grumble.

          Have you heard of the bad dancer?
          1. Yujanin
            Yujanin 24 February 2021 14: 43
            -1

            Have you heard of the bad dancer?

        3. tranquil
          tranquil 24 February 2021 11: 26
          +4
          Quote: Professor
          do not grumble

          To distrust the words of a committed amateur is to "grumble"? Well, you have logic ...
          Quote: Professor
          Did they tell you that, or did Soloviev tell you?

          Azerbaijanis wrote about Iskander for a long time

          Ahh, well, if "Azerbaijanis wrote" then this, of course, is different. Here you need to understand lol
          1. Professor
            Professor 24 February 2021 11: 42
            0
            Quote: tranquil
            Quote: Professor
            do not grumble

            To distrust the words of a committed amateur is to "grumble"? Well, you have logic ...

            Hmm ... This engaged dilettante is the leader of your ally country.
            The logic is simple - the unsuccessful use of the weapon must be investigated. Moreover, such a rare combat use.
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 24 February 2021 12: 38
              +2
              It is illogical: there were no such incidents in our army, and in order for this to happen, you would have to be a completely brainless sucker.
              By the way, the hit was not in the bridge but in the pre-bridge embankment - the goal was not achieved, the bridge remained in working order.
              1. Professor
                Professor 24 February 2021 15: 07
                -6
                Quote: hydrox
                It is illogical: there were no such incidents in our army, and in order for this to happen, you would have to be a completely brainless sucker.

                In your army, where the missile will not hit there and the target. You never miss. You have tens of thousands of combat missions in Syria, hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single miss and absolutely no civilian casualties. So let's study the effectiveness of a weapon using OBJECTIVE data. Armenia is a very good case.

                Quote: hydrox
                By the way, the hit was not in the bridge but in the pre-bridge embankment - the goal was not achieved, the bridge remained in working order.

                Direct hit on the bridge. The fact that the bridge withstood was not the fault of the rocket, but of those who did not finish off the bridge.
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                2. tranquil
                  tranquil 24 February 2021 22: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: Professor
                  You have tens of thousands of combat missions in Syria, hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single miss and absolutely no civilian casualties.

                  - You've obviously reviewed CNN's coverage of the US Army.
                  Quote: Professor
                  So let's study the effectiveness of the weapon ...

                  - The effectiveness of the weapon or its operators?
                  Quote: Professor
                  ... the effectiveness of weapons according to OBJECTIVE data

                  - Not a bad proposal, but what does this have to do with the comments of a politically engaged loser-dilettante trying to somehow justify himself?
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 25 February 2021 07: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: tranquil
                    - You've obviously reviewed CNN's coverage of the US Army.

                    Not. This is your official data.
                    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4213547
                    Since the beginning of the operation in the Arab Republic, the Aerospace Forces have inflicted about 77 thousand strikes on terrorists, said Sergei Rudskoy, Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff.

                    Quote: tranquil
                    - The effectiveness of the weapon or its operators?

                    Weapons and operators are one bundle. Loras in the hands of Azerbaijani operators have been successfully applied. You always have "shells of the wrong system." Either armless Arabs, or poor Armenian operators who successfully graduated from your military schools ... Many questions arise.

                    Quote: tranquil
                    - Not a bad proposal, but what does this have to do with the comments of a politically engaged loser-dilettante trying to somehow justify himself?

                    These are customer comments. Not interested in customer feedback on your weapon? Then can you present your proofs of the effectiveness of the Iskander, who have no analogues in the world? For example, satellite images of Armenian missile hits? And what kind of systems are these if setting the target coordinate is not enough to hit? Laura has enough of that.
                    1. tranquil
                      tranquil 26 February 2021 16: 10
                      0
                      Quote: Professor
                      Not. This is your official data.
                      https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4213547

                      And where are the words about "hundreds of thousands of killed militants and not a single miss and absolutely no casualties among civilians"? Are you lying again? lol
                      Quote: Professor
                      Weapons and operators are one bundle.

                      Then why is it necessary to "study the effectiveness of weapons" and not its operators? Because it flatters your hatred of Russia?
                      Quote: Professor
                      These are customer comments. Are you not interested in customer feedback on your weapon?

                      These are the comments of a politically engaged loser dilettante. And they are interested in professionals.
                      Quote: Professor
                      Then can you present your proofs of the effectiveness of the Iskander, who have no analogues in the world?

                      Then can you present your proof of the ineffectiveness of Iskander and not their operators and other factors?
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 26 February 2021 18: 21
                        -1
                        Quote: tranquil
                        And where are the words about "hundreds of thousands of killed militants and not a single miss and absolutely no casualties among civilians"? Are you lying again?

                        And where is the information about the dead civilians? Where is the apology? That's right, they are not there so your videoconferencing never misses. Where the bomb fell there and the terrorists.

                        https://iz.ru/794930/2018-09-30/vks-rf-unichtozhili-v-sirii-85-tys-terroristov-za-tri-goda
                        Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed 85 thousand terrorists in Syria in three years
                        85 terrorists and not a single civilian. fellow

                        Quote: tranquil
                        Then why is it necessary to "study the effectiveness of weapons" and not its operators? Because it flatters your hatred of Russia?

                        Patashta operator You trained in your military academies which they have successfully completed. How did they pass your sessions? lol

                        Quote: tranquil
                        These are the comments of a politically engaged loser dilettante. And they are interested in professionals.

                        It turns out that your clients are politically engaged amateurs-losers. Others don't come to you?
                      2. tranquil
                        tranquil 26 February 2021 21: 54
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        And where is the information about the dead civilians?

                        And I argued that they are there? You cited a source in which, according to you, it is said about "hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single miss and absolutely no casualties among civilians." In fact, none of this was there. So you are lying lol

                        Quote: Professor
                        https://iz.ru/794930/2018-09-30/vks-rf-unichtozhili-v-sirii-85-tys-terroristov-za-tri-goda
                        Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed 85 thousand terrorists in Syria in three years
                        85 terrorists and not a single civilian.

                        And where are the words about "hundreds of thousands" and "not a single peaceful" there? Are you lying again? I see you have this habit lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        Patashta operator You trained in your military academies which they have successfully completed. How did they pass your sessions?

                        So is your weaponry to blame or the certification commission? You have already decided.
                        Quote: Professor
                        It turns out that your clients are politically engaged amateurs-losers. Others don't come to you?

                        Well, it’s you who ask them.
                      3. Professor
                        Professor 27 February 2021 16: 17
                        -1
                        Quote: tranquil
                        And I argued that they are there? You cited a source in which, according to you, it is said about "hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single miss and absolutely no casualties among civilians." In fact, none of this was there. So you are lying

                        Troll thickly. Tens of thousands of militants in cast iron and not a single peaceful one. fellow

                        Quote: tranquil

                        And where are the words about "hundreds of thousands" and "not a single peaceful" there? Are you lying again? I see you have this habit

                        Is it coming slowly? Read it again.

                        Quote: tranquil
                        So is your weaponry to blame or the certification commission? You have already decided.

                        Your customers have made up their minds. This is what the article, CEP, is about.

                        Quote: tranquil
                        Well, it’s you who ask them.

                        I'm interested in you. Why don't smart and advanced people buy weapons from you? Why, according to your own words, only those who are crooked and half-trained?
                      4. tranquil
                        tranquil 27 February 2021 17: 20
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        Troll thickly. Tens of thousands of militants in cast iron and not a single peaceful one.

                        What kind of trolling is that? You YOURSELF cited a source in which, according to you, it is said about "hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single blunder and absolutely no casualties among civilians." In fact, none of this was there. So you are lying again lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        Is it coming slowly? Read it again.

                        I read it again. Nothing about "hundreds of thousands" of those killed and "not a single peaceful" is said there. You just keep on lying lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        Your customers have made up their minds. This is what the article, CEP, is about.

                        An article about a statement on a complex, professional topic of a politically engaged loser trying to justify himself. In distrust of which you, having lied many times, saw a "grumble".
                        Quote: Professor
                        from your own words, only crooked and underachieved?

                        Indicate these words, you are obviously lying again, what a disgrace lol
                      5. Professor
                        Professor 27 February 2021 20: 16
                        -1
                        Quote: tranquil
                        What kind of trolling is that? You YOURSELF cited a source in which, according to you, it is said about "hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single blunder and absolutely no casualties among civilians." In fact, none of this was there. So you are lying again

                        Well, where is there about the innocent murdered Syrians? You're lying.

                        Quote: tranquil
                        I read it again. Nothing about "hundreds of thousands" of those killed and "not a single peaceful" is said there. You just keep on lying

                        So read it again.

                        Quote: tranquil
                        An article about a statement on a complex, professional topic of a politically engaged loser trying to justify himself. In distrust of which you, having lied many times, saw a "grumble".

                        Well, you have such customers. fellow

                        Quote: tranquil
                        Indicate these words, you are obviously lying again, what a disgrace

                        Uh-huh. All the truth. wassat
                      6. tranquil
                        tranquil 27 February 2021 20: 45
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        Well, where is there about the innocent murdered Syrians? You're lying.

                        Point out where I said at least something about the Syrians. You YOURSELF cited a source in which, according to you, it is said about "hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single blunder and absolutely no casualties among civilians." In fact, none of this was there. So you are lying again lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        So read it again.

                        Nothing about "hundreds of thousands" of those killed and "not a single peaceful" is said there. Give a quote, otherwise, you just keep lying out of habit. lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        from your own words, only crooked and underachieved

                        Quote: Professor
                        Uh-huh. All the truth.

                        Well, point to these words, point your finger. Can't you? You're lying again, disgrace laughing
                      7. Professor
                        Professor 28 February 2021 07: 33
                        -1
                        Quote: tranquil
                        Quote: Professor
                        Well, where is there about the innocent murdered Syrians? You're lying.

                        Point out where I said at least something about the Syrians. You YOURSELF cited a source in which, according to you, it is said about "hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single blunder and absolutely no casualties among civilians." In fact, none of this was there. So you are lying again lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        So read it again.

                        Nothing about "hundreds of thousands" of those killed and "not a single peaceful" is said there. Give a quote, otherwise, you just keep lying out of habit. lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        from your own words, only crooked and underachieved

                        Quote: Professor
                        Uh-huh. All the truth.

                        Well, point to these words, point your finger. Can't you? You're lying again, disgrace laughing

                        If after so many attempts you have not managed to master the material, then this is already your problem. Come and take it in the fall. hi
                      8. tranquil
                        tranquil 1 March 2021 14: 49
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        Quote: tranquil
                        Quote: Professor
                        Well, where is there about the innocent murdered Syrians? You're lying.

                        Point out where I said at least something about the Syrians. You YOURSELF cited a source in which, according to you, it is said about "hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single blunder and absolutely no casualties among civilians." In fact, none of this was there. So you are lying again lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        So read it again.

                        Nothing about "hundreds of thousands" of those killed and "not a single peaceful" is said there. Give a quote, otherwise, you just keep lying out of habit. lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        from your own words, only crooked and underachieved

                        Quote: Professor
                        Uh-huh. All the truth.

                        Well, point to these words, point your finger. Can't you? You're lying again, disgrace laughing

                        If after so many attempts you have not managed to master the material, then this is already your problem. Come and take it in the fall. hi

                        No quotes? How amazing laughing Having caught you lying so many times, it was nice to watch your childish attempts to get out of such a shameful situation for an adult. lol
                        “Congratulations to you, dear citizen!” hi
                      9. Professor
                        Professor 1 March 2021 16: 32
                        -1
                        Quote: tranquil
                        Quote: Professor
                        Quote: tranquil
                        Quote: Professor
                        Well, where is there about the innocent murdered Syrians? You're lying.

                        Point out where I said at least something about the Syrians. You YOURSELF cited a source in which, according to you, it is said about "hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single blunder and absolutely no casualties among civilians." In fact, none of this was there. So you are lying again lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        So read it again.

                        Nothing about "hundreds of thousands" of those killed and "not a single peaceful" is said there. Give a quote, otherwise, you just keep lying out of habit. lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        from your own words, only crooked and underachieved

                        Quote: Professor
                        Uh-huh. All the truth.

                        Well, point to these words, point your finger. Can't you? You're lying again, disgrace laughing

                        If after so many attempts you have not managed to master the material, then this is already your problem. Come and take it in the fall. hi

                        No quotes? How amazing laughing Having caught you lying so many times, it was nice to watch your childish attempts to get out of such a shameful situation for an adult. lol
                        “Congratulations to you, dear citizen!” hi

                        In the fall, young man, in the fall. hi
                      10. tranquil
                        tranquil 1 March 2021 16: 50
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        Quote: tranquil
                        Quote: Professor
                        Quote: tranquil
                        Quote: Professor
                        Well, where is there about the innocent murdered Syrians? You're lying.

                        Point out where I said at least something about the Syrians. You YOURSELF cited a source in which, according to you, it is said about "hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single blunder and absolutely no casualties among civilians." In fact, none of this was there. So you are lying again lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        So read it again.

                        Nothing about "hundreds of thousands" of those killed and "not a single peaceful" is said there. Give a quote, otherwise, you just keep lying out of habit. lol
                        Quote: Professor
                        from your own words, only crooked and underachieved

                        Quote: Professor
                        Uh-huh. All the truth.

                        Well, point to these words, point your finger. Can't you? You're lying again, disgrace laughing

                        If after so many attempts you have not managed to master the material, then this is already your problem. Come and take it in the fall. hi

                        No quotes? How amazing laughing Having caught you lying so many times, it was nice to watch your childish attempts to get out of such a shameful situation for an adult. lol
                        “Congratulations to you, dear citizen!” hi

                        In the fall, young man, in the fall. hi

                        No quotes again? Well, you must laughing
                        Having caught you lying so many times, it was nice to watch your childish attempts to get out of such a shameful situation for an adult. lol
                        “Congratulations to you, dear citizen!” hi
  • abc_alex
    abc_alex 25 February 2021 02: 05
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    In your army, where the missile will not hit there and the target. You never miss.

    No, you confused it with your army. This is yours, wherever the ammunition hits, there is immediately a terrorist base. Sometimes you get the feeling that you have developed compact bases of Islamists with which you stuff bombs and missiles. :)

    Quote: Professor
    You have tens of thousands of combat missions in Syria, hundreds of thousands of militants killed and not a single miss and absolutely no civilian casualties.

    You got it all mixed up! Read the non-profit "independent media"! It also says in black and white that our ammunition in Syria only ends up in hospitals, schools and kindergartens. Do not believe me, you can ask the experts from the "white helmets", the chief observer of Syria from the London shawarma shop, and the girl, I don't remember her name ...
    See the difference? Our munitions are filled with hospitals and schools, and yours with terrorist bases.

    Quote: Professor
    So let's study the effectiveness of weapons using OBJECTIVE data. Armenia is a very good case.

    And where did you get the idea that our military does not have OBJECTIVE data on the combat readiness of Iskander missiles? Why are you so sure that ours are not able to independently assess the safety and reliability of our weapons and need data from lying Armenian political losers? I assure you that our military and engineers are quite competent to independently assess the technical condition of the Iskander missiles, without the help of any political rabble.
    Moreover, even the Armenian Defense Ministry did not support this fool.
    Let me remind you, just in case, that Armenia did not enter the war with Azerbaijan over Karabakh. Therefore, she had no right to formally apply Iskander.
    1. Professor
      Professor 25 February 2021 07: 54
      0
      Quote: abc_alex
      No, you confused it with your army. This is yours, wherever the ammunition hits, there is immediately a terrorist base. Sometimes you get the feeling that you have developed compact bases of Islamists with which you stuff bombs and missiles. :)

      Of course not. We have repeatedly admitted mistakes and paid compensation to victims. You have "inflicted about 77 thousand attacks on terrorists" and not a single civilian perished. Nonsense.

      Quote: abc_alex
      You got it all mixed up! Read the non-profit "independent media"! It also says in black and white that our ammunition in Syria only ends up in hospitals, schools and kindergartens. Do not believe me, you can ask the experts from the "white helmets", the chief observer of Syria from the London shawarma shop, and the girl, I don't remember her name ...
      See the difference? Our munitions are filled with hospitals and schools, and yours with terrorist bases.

      Provide a link to your MoD or MFA where they would admit collateral damage. Well, at least once?

      Quote: abc_alex
      And where did you get the idea that our military does not have OBJECTIVE data on the combat readiness of Iskander missiles? Why are you so sure that ours are not able to independently assess the safety and reliability of our weapons and need data from lying Armenian political losers? I assure you that our military and engineers are quite competent to independently assess the technical condition of the Iskander missiles, without the help of any political rabble.
      Moreover, even the Armenian Defense Ministry did not support this fool.
      Let me remind you, just in case, that Armenia did not enter the war with Azerbaijan over Karabakh. Therefore, she had no right to formally apply Iskander.

      The prime minister to whom the Ministry of Defense is subordinate says that only 10% of the missiles worked properly. Refute this slander. Is he lying?
      https://www.1in.am/2906908.html
      Your Ministry of Foreign Affairs and your Ministry of Defense are silent, losing face.
      1. abc_alex
        abc_alex 25 February 2021 22: 29
        -1
        Quote: Professor
        You have "inflicted about 77 thousand attacks on terrorists" and not a single civilian perished. Nonsense.


        Accuracy. Yes, and ours are bombing in close proximity to objects, and yours from the territory of a third state, across the border.
        If yours miss, then not necessarily everyone should miss the same way.

        Quote: Professor
        Provide a link to your MoD or MFA where they would admit collateral damage. Well, at least once?


        Give at least one example of when your Defense Ministry or Foreign Ministry apologized for shelling the territory of another sovereign state. Well, at least once?

        Quote: Professor
        The prime minister to whom the Ministry of Defense is subordinate says that only 10% of the missiles worked properly. Refute this slander. Is he lying?


        Yes. He's lying. I will not refute myself. Here is the reaction of the Armenian military:

        On Thursday, the General Staff of the Armenian Armed Forces demanded the resignation of Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and his government. According to the statement signed by the Chief of the General Staff Onik Gasparyan, all his deputies, heads of departments and commanders of all large military units, "the Prime Minister and the Government of Armenia are no longer able to make adequate decisions in this crisis and fateful situation for the Armenian people."

        “In connection with the current situation, the Armenian Armed Forces demand the resignation of the Prime Minister and the Government of the Republic of Armenia, at the same time warning to refrain from using force against the people, whose children died defending the Motherland and Artsakh,” the TASS document is quoted as saying. Immediately after the publication of the statement, the Prime Minister of Armenia proposed to the President of the republic to dismiss Gasparyan, but as of 13:00 Moscow time the document on dismissal was not signed.

        Pashinyan, in turn, regarded the statement of the General Staff of the Armed Forces as an attempt at a military coup and wrote about it on his Facebook page. There, he called on all his supporters "right now" to go to Republic Square - the central square of Yerevan - and announced a live appeal to the nation in the near future.

        The main reason for the discontent of the representatives of the Armenian Armed Forces was the dismissal of the First Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces Tiran Khachatryan. This happened after, in a commentary to Yerevan.Today, the military called Pashinyan's conclusions about the ineffectiveness of the Russian Iskander missile systems as "frivolous".

        Let us remind you that on Tuesday, February 23, the Armenian Prime Minister in an interview with the 1in.am portal answered the words of ex-President Serzh Sargsyan that Yerevan could use Russian missile systems during the hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh in the fall of 2020. He stated that at that time the Iskanders, which Armenia had, did not explode or exploded by only 10%.

        When asked if this is possible, Tiran Khachatryan replied: "Of course, it is impossible ... How? .. Iskander? .. One shot? .. 10%? .. Sorry, but this is not serious." “I don’t know who said what, but it’s impossible,” Khachatryan added. The representative of the General Staff also called on journalists "not to form misconceptions about this weapon." According to Yerevan.Today, the deputy head of the General Staff laughed for a long time and only then gave his comment.

        After that, the Armenian Ministry of Defense stated that the journalist did not provide the full content of the conversation and distorted the information. The department called this an information provocation, and the subsequent dismissal of Khachatryan was not in line with the national and state interests of Armenia and based solely on the personal ambitions of Prime Minister Pashinyan.


        Pashinyan is a scoundrel and a liar. Political rubbish.
        1. Professor
          Professor 26 February 2021 18: 03
          0
          Quote: abc_alex
          Accuracy. Yes, and ours are bombing in close proximity to objects, and yours from the territory of a third state, across the border.
          If yours miss, then not necessarily everyone should miss the same way.

          Never missed? Nonsense.

          Quote: abc_alex
          Give at least one example of when your Defense Ministry or Foreign Ministry apologized for shelling the territory of another sovereign state. Well, at least once?

          Immediately after you fulfill my request. I have an answer to your question.

          Quote: abc_alex
          Yes. He's lying. I will not refute myself. Here is the reaction of the Armenian military:

          So many words of those fighting for power. We would have been shown aerial photography of the hit and all the cases. Like an Israeli operator does.

          Quote: abc_alex
          Pashinyan is a scoundrel and a liar. Political rubbish.

          Yah? wink
        2. abc_alex
          abc_alex 26 February 2021 21: 34
          0
          Quote: Professor
          Never missed? Nonsense.

          Simply, we know how to make weapons. And apply.

          Quote: Professor
          Immediately after you fulfill my request. I have an answer to your question.


          Not after, but BEFORE. Since your army has been shelling the territories of independent states without declaring war, that is, gangly, for many decades. And our army has been actively using force abroad for only a few years. Therefore, first you, 30-40 years of continuous apologies (not to us, but to those who were bombed and bombed). And how you clean up your reputation, you will get the right to reproach our army for something.

          Quote: Professor
          So many words of those fighting for power. We would have been shown aerial photography of the hit and all the cases. Like an Israeli operator does.


          Professor, you now deserve the harshest epithets addressed to you and demonstrate either the utmost bias of opinion, or the absence of critical thinking.
          They tell you: Pashinyan is a liar. You are being told the direct speech of the Armenian military, demanding the immediate resignation of this nonentity. But you do not believe either me (which is not scary) or the Armenians, which is strange. But do you trust Pashinyan's words, why? Because the shit that he pours on Russian weapons warms your soul? You just REALLY WANT our weapon to be worse than yours? And you don't care what kind of muck the muck grunts, are you glad to cling to it?
          Professor, you must understand that Pashinyan is not lying that something has gone somewhere. He lies IN EVERYTHING. Including in the very fact of using Iskander. What makes you think that the Armenians fired Iskander. Remember, or write down somewhere, the ARMENIAN ARMY DIDN'T PARTICIPATE in this war. No way. Nothing.

          And the RF Ministry of Defense, for example, officially announced that ALL missiles of the Iskander complex (and Russia sold them to Armenia, subject to control over their use) are in warehouses. Do you understand this or not? You've been lied to from the start. And you demand that the Russians in front of you refute the lie, and even as you indicate. You believed the liar and the bastard who came to power from the square, lost everything he took, brought the situation to war with Azerbaijan, lost the war. And now you want someone to show you something at your direction. First, isn't there a lot of honor? And secondly, no effort will be enough to refute all the nonsense that is being poured on Russia now, especially in the eyes of an Israeli who REALLY WANTS to believe everything that denigrates Russia, Russian weapons and our army.

          Quote: Professor
          Yah?


          Well yes. That's why we respect Putin, that he is sometimes forced to hang around for the sake of the interests of the country, even with such political suck. Do not hesitate. Even when this unshaven in blue inflicts a personal insult on him, disregarding diplomatic protocol.
          And also for not taking revenge. But it does.
          By the way, I hasten to upset you, I don’t know about you, but for me the very fact that someone was in charge with Putin does not sacralize anyone. I'm not a monarchist, you know. And I don't believe in the anointing of supreme power. I don't live in theocracy after all.
          wink

          Aliyev held a press conference in Baku today. Of course he was asked about the Iskander. The answer was extremely short:
          - We have not seen the launch of the Iskander missile [by the Armenian military during the conflict in Karabakh] <...> This is just another blunder, which has been [done] in public already a lot ...

          Professor, you still do not believe that you were led to the Pashinyan lie?
        3. Professor
          Professor 27 February 2021 16: 13
          -1
          Quote: abc_alex
          Simply, we know how to make weapons. And apply.

          History has not known such "precise" bombing. laughing

          Quote: abc_alex
          Not after, but BEFORE. Since your army has been shelling the territories of independent states without declaring war, that is, gangly, for many decades. And our army has been actively using force abroad for only a few years. Therefore, first you, 30-40 years of continuous apologies (not to us, but to those who were bombed and bombed). And how you clean up your reputation, you will get the right to reproach our army for something.

          Right after you. Provide a link to your MoD or MFA where they would admit collateral damage. Well, at least once?

          Quote: abc_alex

          Professor, you now deserve the harshest epithets addressed to you and demonstrate either the utmost bias of opinion, or the absence of critical thinking.

          Enough words. Just a photo before and after the impact. Show how accurate your weapon is.

          Quote: abc_alex
          Well, yes.

          Well, what can you do if you have such allies. request
  • tranquil
    tranquil 24 February 2021 22: 25
    +1
    This committed amateur is the leader of your ally country.
    .


    - Iiii? How does this affect the status of an obviously committed amateur?
    And where is the "shuffle" in mistrust of such a person?
    Or do you have any official with a negative attitude towards Russia automatically becomes an expert?
  • abc_alex
    abc_alex 25 February 2021 01: 46
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Hmm ... This engaged dilettante is the leader of your ally country.

    So what? Does union with Russia make someone smarter or more educated?
    In addition, Pashinyan is an openly anti-Russian politician. And I never hid it.
    Quote: Professor
    The logic is simple - the unsuccessful use of the weapon must be investigated.

    First you need to check the words of Pashinyan himself. He lied, lies and will lie. He has a very difficult position in the country. Everyone, including former allies, demands his departure. He has failed everything he took on. It is vital for him to find someone extreme. Blaming and denigrating the Russian is for him a habitual stereotype of political behavior.
    In the RF Armed Forces, Iskander missiles undergo regular maintenance with system checks. Test shooting is also carried out. These reliable data are analyzed and, if necessary, investigations are carried out. And the chatter of a political loser is worth nothing.
  • Yujanin
    Yujanin 24 February 2021 13: 48
    +1

    Ahh, well, if "Azerbaijanis wrote" then this, of course, is different. Here you need to understand lol

    The Armenians also wrote about this. More precisely, they showed how "Laura" zhahnula on the operational headquarters of the Armenian military forces in Shusha

  • Grits
    Grits 24 February 2021 14: 42
    +7
    Quote: Professor
    Regarding the Iskander, the Azerbaijanis wrote for a long time that not one of them hit the target. It would be better to check the cause of the miss, and not to grumble.

    A small correction.
    "Iskander" did not hit, but the Armenians "did not hit"
    1. Professor
      Professor 24 February 2021 15: 10
      -4
      Quote: Gritsa
      Quote: Professor
      Regarding the Iskander, the Azerbaijanis wrote for a long time that not one of them hit the target. It would be better to check the cause of the miss, and not to grumble.

      A small correction.
      "Iskander" did not hit, but the Armenians "did not hit"

      Did the Iskander launch the Armenians or the Iskander Armenians? It seems to me they should have hit the target with Iskander.
      1. tranquil
        tranquil 24 February 2021 22: 49
        -1
        Quote: Professor
        It seems to me they should have hit the target with Iskander.

        It's funny how persistently you try to level the role of operators to please the situation. lol
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 25 February 2021 07: 55
        -1
        Well, professor, you give!
        You have opened such a large thread and you do not want to admit the correctness of a very large number of opponents.
        Please do not take the position of Trump: such a number of "exceptional" in a small area can only gather in a cemetery. lol
        And hand-holding is an innate quality, akin to the talent of a huckster, it is almost never found together - you don’t add up to trade, right? But there are as many Armenians in this capacity as you like: Excuse me for not calling them "operators" - my hand does not rise ... lol
        1. Professor
          Professor 25 February 2021 08: 56
          +2
          Quote: hydrox
          Well, professor, you give!
          You have opened such a large thread and you do not want to admit the correctness of a very large number of opponents.
          Please do not take the position of Trump: such a number of "exceptional" in a small area can only gather in a cemetery. lol
          And hand-holding is an innate quality, akin to the talent of a huckster, it is almost never found together - you don’t add up to trade, right? But there are as many Armenians in this capacity as you like: Excuse me for not calling them "operators" - my hand does not rise ... lol

          In your opinion, the majority cannot be wrong? Easily.
          Concerning curvature:
          * I grew up in Armenia, half of my class were Armenians. Many of them are very talented guys and, on average, are no more stupid than Russians.
          * Armenians studied in your military schools and completed them SUCCESSFULLY.
          * Your technique is positioned as easy to use and reliable for which there is no need for geniuses.

          I will not ask again how the Azerbaijanis coped with Laura, and the Armenians did not cope with the Iskander, but I will quote the opinion that there could have been a cut in which Armenia was supplied with non-conditioned complexes, since this weapon was considered almost strategic and no one imagined that it will actually be applied.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 25 February 2021 12: 49
            -1
            Dear Mr. Professor, let's not touch the political part of arms deliveries with our hands, especially in the accusatory context of Russia, which you accuse of committing a misdemeanor, the author and executor of which could be Armenians, but not Russia, which has no reason to shed dirt on his allied obligations, but the meanness with which this accusation was made is Pashinyan's trademark, the presence of which was confirmed by him ONE TIME during the conflict, especially against the background of innate deceit.
            1. Professor
              Professor 25 February 2021 14: 06
              +1
              Quote: hydrox
              Dear Mr. Professor, let's not touch the political part of arms deliveries with our hands, especially in the accusatory context of Russia, which you accuse of committing a misdemeanor, the author and executor of which could be Armenians, but not Russia, which has no reason to shed dirt on his allied obligations, but the meanness with which this accusation was made is Pashinyan's trademark, the presence of which was confirmed by him ONE TIME during the conflict, especially against the background of innate deceit.

              The facts are that the Iskander missed. 90% of them. Armenians blame the weapon for this, you blame them. Is it in the middle? Not a fig. The client is always right. This means that your complexes require unique training of personnel, which is impossible in real life. Either the complexes were delivered "defective". All this must be clarified so that this story does not repeat itself.
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 25 February 2021 15: 53
                -1
                I do not agree!
                A warrior is ALWAYS guilty of poor weapon control, as he pays for it with his life!
                Whether these complexes were faulty or not - it turns out during the first week of development, and not after the army has already been defeated, and the weapons are still covered!
          2. Oleg Monarchist
            Oleg Monarchist 25 February 2021 16: 02
            -2
            Professor, stop making up any bullshit. Here a comrade from Azerbaijan, a Southerner, tried to convince the Armenians that the Armenians were shooting by Iskander, but they were shot down or hit the wrong place and exploded in a residential sector in Ganja, although Pashinyan does not say that they were shot down or they exploded in the houses of peaceful Azerbaijanis, he claims they didn't explode at all. The President, his missiles, knows for sure. I asked the Southerner where the wreckage of the shot down or exploded or not exploded at all, and therefore the whole missiles. laughing
            But it turns out, according to the same Southerner, all this is there, but no one will be shown, because it is secret. laughing It turns out Aliyev forbade everyone in Azerbaijan to say so as not to spoil relations with Russia, although what does Russia have to do with it if the Armenians were shooting from Russian-made Armenian complexes.
            In my opinion, they did not use them, well, there is no material evidence of their use.
            They are "Elbrus", they used Point U.
            1. Professor
              Professor 25 February 2021 16: 31
              +2
              Quote: Oleg Monarchist
              Professor, stop making up any bullshit. Here a comrade from Azerbaijan, a Southerner, tried to convince the Armenians that the Armenians were shooting by Iskander, but they were shot down or hit the wrong place and exploded in a residential sector in Ganja, although Pashinyan does not say that they were shot down or they exploded in the houses of peaceful Azerbaijanis, he claims they didn't explode at all. The President, his missiles, knows for sure. I asked the Southerner where the wreckage of the shot down or exploded or not exploded at all, and therefore the whole missiles.

              He did not speak Russian and so he was translated. It was about 10% of the missiles that worked normally. Azerbaijanis wrote about this last year.

              Quote: Oleg Monarchist
              But it turns out, according to the same Southerner, all this is there, but no one will be shown, because it is secret. It turns out that Aliyev forbade everyone in Azerbaijan to say so as not to spoil relations with Russia, although what does Russia have to do with it if the Armenians were firing from Russian-made Armenian complexes.
              In my opinion, they did not use them, well, there is no material evidence of their use.

              In 2008, the fragments of the Iskander in Georgia were presented, but the Russian Federation is still shouting "where is the evidence?"

              Quote: Oleg Monarchist
              They are "Elbrus", they used Point U.

              What material evidence is there of their use? wink
              1. Oleg Monarchist
                Oleg Monarchist 25 February 2021 17: 51
                -1
                Submit to the studio for identification "Shouts of Russia" about the use of Iskander in Georgia in 2008. We did not deny that it was necessary more and the Georgians were lucky that they fought with Russia, and not with the USA or Israel, those Tbiliso would have turned them into rubble.
                Read about the use of Elbrus in the Azerbaijani press. I gave the link above and the text. This is when the Armenians blasted through Ganja.
                Let's do something more substantial than fantasies about Georgia.
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  • Alien From
    Alien From 24 February 2021 10: 07
    +2
    1000 times I agree with you !!!
  • Intruder
    Intruder 24 February 2021 16: 19
    +3
    In skillful hands and horseradish balalaika.
    in skillful hands and "Tochka-U", a terrible weapon of local retaliation, before bedtime: 9N64 - up to 200 kt., true sowing of vigorous fire in the epicenter., or humanely sows the area at lunchtime, using 9N123K: up to 3,5-7 ha., and for breakfast, with morning prelude wink up to 2-3 hectares, for 9N123F!
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 24 February 2021 07: 05
    +28
    Bad the dancer Iskander's premiere is being hindered.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 24 February 2021 08: 10
      +3
      It was just that the ugly was given a high-quality weapon, and I thought that the Russians were giving him, the ugly, the opportunity to earn money, so he went and handed over the Iskanders for scrap.
      1. ism_ek
        ism_ek 25 February 2021 16: 39
        0
        Iskander has an optical guidance system. For an accurate hit, you need fresh aerial or satellite images in the infrared spectrum. Google maps will not work))).
  • krops777
    krops777 24 February 2021 07: 25
    +24
    Just to blurt out something in your defense


    It was he who, of course, barked in vain in the direction of Russia, Putin thought he saved him from a shameful defeat, and he is such, a sadomasochist by God or the United States again decided to lick and suddenly this time he is lucky.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 24 February 2021 07: 53
      -1
      It is necessary to stick sandpaper there, so that the lizuns would be even more pleased))
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 24 February 2021 16: 52
        0
        Minus banged the same "guy"?))))
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 24 February 2021 16: 24
      +1
      It was he who, of course, barked in vain in the direction of Russia, Putin is considered to have saved him from a shameful defeat, and he is such a sadomasochist by God
      here it is, what gratitude, what was needed, this yapping head, to the Turkish sultan as a present ..., or to his friend, to yield for contracts for the supply of Russian weapons !?
  • bar
    bar 24 February 2021 07: 48
    +29
    Quote: Jacket in stock
    If only something to blurt out in his defense, and the rest to think what he meant and how to translate it into human language.

    What is there to think, everything is transparent. Pashinyan accuses Russia of betraying Armenia. And she sold the defective weapon, and did not fit into the war with Azerbaijan, and muddied the "peace treaty", in agreement with Aliyev, because of which they surrendered Karabakh, although they could not have surrendered. Well, in fact, it is not Pashinyan's fault that he destroyed the army and blamed the attack. All evil Russia is to blame, he and the American Embassy were told so ...
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 24 February 2021 08: 02
      +4
      Quote: bar
      And she sold the defective weapon, and did not fit into the war with Azerbaijan, and muddied the "peace treaty",

      And the church in the fourteenth century is also Russia.
    2. hydroy
      hydroy 24 February 2021 10: 11
      +1
      The funniest thing is that it was Pashinyan who unleashed the conflict in Tovush in the summer because of which the autumn campaign of Azerbaijan began later)))
  • svp67
    svp67 24 February 2021 08: 47
    +4
    Quote: Jacket in stock
    If only something to blurt out in his defense, and the rest to think what he meant and how to translate it into human language.

    He tries to show that "I AM NOT GUILTY !!!"
    1. dSK
      dSK 24 February 2021 09: 23
      +2
      Is he going to buy "Tomogavki", but what kind of shisha?
      Azeibarzhan has something to pay for -
      Military exports from Turkey to Azerbaijan for 11 months of 2020 increased by 610% ...
  • prior
    prior 24 February 2021 09: 24
    0
    Give a bald monkey with a beard a grenade, it will tear off its eggs by 10%.
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 24 February 2021 09: 29
    +2
    Quote: Jacket in stock
    If only something to blurt out in his defense, and the rest to think what he meant and how to translate it into human language.

    Yeah, especially ... it exploded by 10% ... it's something with something!
    1. Grits
      Grits 24 February 2021 14: 48
      0
      Quote: 1976AG
      Yeah, especially ... it exploded by 10% ... it's something with something!

      What's not clear here? The rocket fell, only a tenth of it exploded (well, for example, the back). The rest of the parts remained intact, not blown up. It's simple. laughing
  • smart ass
    smart ass 24 February 2021 09: 40
    +2
    Pashik the mongrel profiled the war, found the extreme
  • Anar
    Anar 24 February 2021 10: 53
    +1
    Pashinyan is the second Gorbachev. The same nasty and cute, who begs for others, blaming a third person for all the troubles and making excuses as best he can.
  • vlad.baryatinsky
    vlad.baryatinsky 24 February 2021 11: 09
    +3
    Quote: Jacket in stock
    Just to blurt out something in your defense,

    Hello !
    This is in trend with them now.
    Idea "X"
    Moreover, in a discussion with Sargsyan, he pedals with the argument that
    - exploded by 10%!.
    So the devil is with him.
    But this "thought" is actively taken up by the people and is widely discussed.
    And this (!) Is our "ally"! ??
  • venik
    venik 24 February 2021 11: 13
    0
    Quote: Jacket in stock
    If only something to blurt out in his defense, and the rest to think what he meant and how to translate it into human language.

    =======
    Why translate that? After all, people have long known: "A bad dancer and his own ..... (um repeat ) ... "Iskander"interfere!
  • tvgpvo
    tvgpvo 24 February 2021 15: 01
    +1
    Technology in the hands of savages is just a piece of iron.
  • Destiny
    Destiny 24 February 2021 06: 58
    +28
    Pashinyan said the missiles of Russian missile systems "are not suitable for use"

    He doesn’t like our weapons, he also needs a head and arms that grow from the shoulders, and not from a place below the back ...
    1. Old tanker
      Old tanker 24 February 2021 07: 48
      +10
      To work out a flight mission for the Iskander and set it to a rocket, this requires working brains, not the chicken braggers praised by Pegov. Who grinded everyone, and in the end they themselves were ground.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 24 February 2021 08: 24
        +5
        "Weapon of the 80s": Pashinyan criticized the Russian OTRK "Iskander"
        ... they saved him from public castration and immediately spits in the back ... I already kind of bow down .. such "allies" ... one is simpler, without "smut" ... "all urine in toilets" and all.
      2. Grits
        Grits 24 February 2021 14: 50
        +4
        Quote: Old Tankman
        To work out a flight mission for the Iskander and set it to a rocket, this requires working brains, not the chicken braggers sung by Pegov

        Have you noticed that Pegov quickly disappeared from the Russian media space?
        1. Old tanker
          Old tanker 24 February 2021 15: 57
          +4
          Now in his blog, he is promoting a new line of programs called "PMC" (private military correspondent), where he interviews veterans of law enforcement agencies, participants in hostilities, war correspondents. Now he basically rests on this.
          Aleksandr Levin and Dmitry Astrakhan are reporting from the LDNR.
          But they stopped calling him to "Star" request
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 24 February 2021 16: 26
      +2
      You also need a head for arms and arms that grow from the shoulders, and not from a place below the back ...
      and he thought differently in his office, sitting in a cozy one, that at his will everything robs and fights !?
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 24 February 2021 07: 00
    +11
    Technique in the hands of a savage piece of metal! I wonder if the Azerbaijanis know that the Iskander flew to them?
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 24 February 2021 08: 18
      +2
      And he would not fly - these arms forgot to cock the fuse, so Iskander had to self-destruct on the launcher - so the arms and the launch system could not be connected to the generator, since they themselves stole the cable! laughing laughing good
  • TerraSandera
    TerraSandera 24 February 2021 07: 01
    +14
    Exploded 10%? What is it like. These eggs he had, 1% of the norm, for making decisions. It is not even clear how they could interfere with this "dancer". Ps, there were videos confirming the use of Elbrus, but it is not clear where they flew. Except just in civilian houses something powerful fell.
  • NDR-791
    NDR-791 24 February 2021 07: 03
    +11
    "didn't explode completely."
    It's hard to live waist-deep with wooden ones ... If you don't like it, bring it back, only as a whole
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 24 February 2021 16: 27
      0
      I don't like it, bring it back, only as a whole
      or pay the full cost !?
  • Cananecat
    Cananecat 24 February 2021 07: 04
    +15
    I propose to insure Nikola against the following cases:
    Iskander did not fly.
    Flew, but not there.
    Flew, but did not explode.
    Flew, exploded by 10%.
    In the event of an insured event, provide Nikola with one free-compulsory flight on horseback Iskander OTKR in any specified direction.
  • DEVIL LIFE`S
    DEVIL LIFE`S 24 February 2021 07: 07
    +1
    When did he become a weapons specialist? Why did you use them badly when needed?
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 February 2021 07: 11
    +5
    Enchanting! It is immediately evident that a professional journalist! W [quote = Destiny] [quote] Pashinyan said that the missiles of the Russian missile systems "are not suitable for use" [/ quote].
    Pronounce any nonsense with confidence and aplomb. More hamsters will believe ...
  • Andrey1966
    Andrey1966 24 February 2021 07: 13
    +11
    It is strange or lucky that they did not fire rockets towards Yerevan. As our engineers and technicians told; Once a plane from Armenia arrived at our airline. Well, ours began to inspect / check. Some of the equipment had factory seals. That is, the plane did not undergo periodic maintenance, it flew like that. And in general it is strange that they did not sell Iskander to the side ...
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 24 February 2021 07: 14
    +1
    What did he think? As the Saudis probably bought, so should it work itself? And it’s not necessary to teach people ... Well, in general, it’s understandable, the crying of the Orthodox will be heard for a long time.
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 24 February 2021 07: 17
    +7
    laughing
    This is because you don't know how to cook dolma. I think so!
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 24 February 2021 07: 23
    +1
    It broke. Isn't it time to replace the fool?
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 24 February 2021 07: 31
    +7
    The "commander" Pashinyan would sit and keep quiet. Does he still run Armenia? .. In this case, Karabakh is only the beginning of the loss of statehood. I see that the citizens of Armenia have not grown wiser ...
  • t00r
    t00r 24 February 2021 07: 32
    -11%
    Well, I knew that the Russians would discuss this Armenian glorious bazaar ... to be honest, I said for a long time the existence of this analogue Internet is not a guarantee of the state quo (and many Russians) Armenians did not believe this. Life has shown that miracles do not happen.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 24 February 2021 08: 03
      +1
      quote] I knew that the Russians would discuss this Armenian glorious bazaar .. [/ quote]
      There are more than 190 nationalities in Russia.
      [Quote] to be honest, I have long said the presence of this analogue Internet is not a guarantee of the state quotes [/ quote]
      And someone said so? What kind of idiot do you have to be to believe that the operational tactical complex can establish some kind of status quo?
      1. t00r
        t00r 24 February 2021 08: 57
        -6
        Well, for example, this "great" analyst of yours Evseev from the Institute of the CIS countries Zatulin. (it is constantly played on federal media)

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ID_-SvVgw

        here even the author wrote that the presence of Iskander "fetters the possibilities of Baku" ...

        but the memory of the local people, like fish, everyone has forgotten))) google to help ...
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 24 February 2021 08: 13
      +2
      Quote: t00r
      to be honest, I have long said the presence of this analogue Internet is not a guarantee of the state quo (and many Russians) Armenians did not believe this. Life has shown that miracles do not happen.

      How absurd and absurd boasting! Kindergarten, pants with straps.
      I sincerely would like to believe that this was written by the shkolotron. Then, at least, there was something to justify this nonsense. Immature psyche, any lack of life experience. The desire to appear bigger, more important, smarter, more insightful. In general, everything that corresponds to puberty.
      But no, it was written by an adult, maybe even a family man with a higher education.
      But maybe you really shkololo? Don't weary! ..
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    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 24 February 2021 08: 04
      +18
      You write kryakozyabrami at home, but here be kind in Russian
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 24 February 2021 16: 29
        0
        You write kryakozyabrami at home, but here be kind in Russian
        and why, then the bastards began to write on their ligature !? not order ... and not understand anything in their Basurmansky ...
    2. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 24 February 2021 08: 13
      -6
      Teklifiniz için teşekkür ederiz.Sadece S-400'ü değil, tanklarımızı ve uçaklarımızı da satın alabilirsiniz.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 24 February 2021 11: 37
        0
        Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
        Teklifiniz için teşekkür ederiz.Sadece S-400'ü değil, tanklarımızı ve uçaklarımızı da satın alabilirsiniz.

        Tanks have already been bought, S-400s are still only Turks
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 24 February 2021 11: 23
      0
      Quote: fuat öztürk
      rus akdaşlar üzülmesin türkiye olarak üstün teknolojiye sahip son model silahlarımızı size satabiliriz :) Sizinde gördügünüz gibi bizim silahlar catır catır çalışıyor :)


      Moskvada gömrük rəsmiləşdirilmiş çəhrayı pomidor üçün ən yaxşı qiyməti göstərin. 20 tondan, yerində ödəniş. In Moscow in fact.
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 24 February 2021 17: 27
        +1
        Do you know the language or did ours write?)))
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 24 February 2021 17: 31
          +2
          Online translator, laughing I would not refuse knowledge of Azerbaijani or Turkish hi
          1. Otshelnik
            Otshelnik 24 February 2021 17: 44
            +2
            And you will find a teacher at the local bazaar (no kidding) ... many with higher education trade (such times) ... but, as foreigners say, our language is not very easy)
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 24 February 2021 18: 03
              0
              Quote: Otshelnik
              And you will find a teacher at the local bazaar (no kidding) ... many with higher education trade (such times) ... but, as foreigners say, our language is not very easy)

              A graduate of the Harvard Law School, a year after receiving a license to operate, earns in the region of 65-80 thousand tanks a year. Three years later, about 100 thousand tanks.
              After three years of wholesale tomato trade only with Moscow and St. Petersburg you can earn 800 thousand dollars annually.
              No wonder highly educated people do it hi
              1. Otshelnik
                Otshelnik 24 February 2021 18: 11
                +1
                )) oh ... don't seduce me ...
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 24 February 2021 18: 22
                  +1
                  It is not so easy. Tomatoes must be transported correctly (and for each type). Have arrived - have not arrived - you pay for the goods, as well as for transport services.
                  The easiest way to buy is at the place of delivery - but you need to understand the product. Any manufacturer wants to sell you in a greenhouse - and then spin yourself.
                  Bought, delivered - you need to sell. And here the most interesting thing begins - no one at the place of delivery wants to pay the pre-agreed price, people begin to discount the price, etc.
                  There is no easy money. Nobody's money. laughing
                  1. Otshelnik
                    Otshelnik 24 February 2021 23: 13
                    +1
                    I'll go to the bookshelf) ... I can't see 800000)
                    But seriously, I agree that trade is hard and hard work.
          2. Albay
            Albay 24 February 2021 20: 30
            0
            Hello Albert!) I will teach with pleasure, come visit in the summer))
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 24 February 2021 22: 38
              +1
              Quote: Albay
              Hello Albert!) I will teach with pleasure, come visit in the summer))

              Hello Parviz! hi I hope it works)).
    4. Grits
      Grits 24 February 2021 14: 56
      0
      Quote: fuat öztürk
      rus akdaşlar üzülmesin türkiye olarak üstün teknolojiye sahip son model silahlarımızı size satabiliriz :) Sizinde gördügünüz gibi bizim silahlar catır catır çalışıyor :)

      How pathetic ... And what is it about?
    5. Intruder
      Intruder 24 February 2021 16: 32
      -1
      biz kendi yeterli, herhangi bir arkadaş için satış ve hediyeler için de !!! winked wink
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 24 February 2021 16: 49
        +2
        Everyone is too lazy to open the translator, but this does not cancel the rule on ru sites to write in Russian, including answering wink
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 24 February 2021 16: 51
          0
          but this does not cancel the rule on ru sites to write in Russian, including answering
          above answered in Russian by the way ..., and duplicated in Turkish - to a friend above from the sunny republic! wink
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha 24 February 2021 17: 09
            +1
            So I'm not lazy, the lyrics are different))) Not the point, I wrote for "that guy"
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 24 February 2021 17: 48
              0
              I wrote for "that guy"
              I wrote in Turkish, for that guy ... drinks
    6. Albay
      Albay 24 February 2021 20: 26
      -1
      Fuat Özturk .... Eyvallah))))
    7. Mikhalych 70
      Mikhalych 70 25 February 2021 21: 28
      0
      Here, silly, he does not write in Cyrillic))) Although, I think, this is shocking. Somehow he figured out where to insert the comment.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 24 February 2021 07: 45
    +2
    Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan criticized

    And what, now we are going to discuss the opinion of the leader, who has lost everything?
    "very interesting" fool
    1. cniza
      cniza 24 February 2021 08: 50
      +1
      Good time! hi

      No, he clearly works out what Soros put in him ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 February 2021 08: 58
        +4
        Welcome soldier
        So it is clear who he works for and why ... but, after that pogrom / bashing, which the Armenian state received by his "grace", it also blathers, survived ???
        However, there is nothing to be surprised at. We've already received everything from the neighbors, a full bowl and ... and nothing !!! Mow on!
        So the guys know how to spread guano on a stick and SELL!
        1. cniza
          cniza 24 February 2021 09: 07
          +2
          This is their army and training remained in the 80s, well, political will works for the owners ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 24 February 2021 09: 50
            +1
            Their affairs ... now themselves, themselves, no one will correct anything for them.
            1. cniza
              cniza 24 February 2021 10: 04
              +2
              No matter how we wave it off, we will have to deal with this direction ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 24 February 2021 10: 24
                0
                It is fraught to get into their internal affairs ...
                All those small but proud, want to listen only to themselves, although in fact, the one who promised more.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 24 February 2021 12: 15
                  +2
                  This is their life, let them choose what suits them, but we need to have peace of mind with our neighbors ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 24 February 2021 12: 27
                    +2
                    For the peace of mind of a neighbor you have to pay dearly, and in return you will receive ... different things! Is it really necessary? If we do not know how to collect payments on bills, we should not be scattered about so vast ... nothing will remain on our own.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 24 February 2021 15: 54
                      +2
                      Oh, and this is a difficult question, how to pay and how to collect payment on bills, and most importantly the price ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 24 February 2021 16: 19
                        +1
                        Difficult, expensive ... but sometimes you just MUST!
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 24 February 2021 16: 41
                        +2
                        There are no other options, if we do not do it, someone will do it for us, but in their favor ...
  • Emil mamedoff
    Emil mamedoff 24 February 2021 07: 45
    +3
    If the Iskanders did not fall to the ground in Azerbaijan, this does not mean that "they do not explode," it means that they are intercepted by 48Н6Е2 missiles, of which we have several hundred. However, like the Israeli missile defense systems.
    Yes, there were strikes by both Scuds and Iskander. Their top themselves confirm all this, about Iskander, incl. It is a fact and it was.
    But precisely when they tried to strike at the strategic Mingechevir reservoir, and in the area of ​​the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, not one of these missiles fell to the ground in those places. During the war, it was heavily crammed with launchers with 48N6E2, and various air defense / missile defense systems made by Israel. Ordinary people saw a lot of anti-missile launches in these places, and everything in the sky is "boom".
  • bobwings
    bobwings 24 February 2021 07: 50
    +3
    On the last day of the war, there was a strong explosion near Baku. Judging by the fact that there was no damage and demonstration of the remnants of the fallen missile, it can be assumed that the missile was intercepted by one of Azerbaijan's air defense divisions (Barak 8 or S300).
    It could well be Iskander, the use of which was not mentioned at the request of the Russian Federation.
  • storm
    storm 24 February 2021 07: 52
    +11
    How can a rocket explode by 10% ???
    The Armenian Iskander has 10 warheads, but only one explodes ...
    Or the prime minister's brains are not fully functional, by 10 percent ...
    1. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 24 February 2021 08: 15
      +4
      It's just that a person has all sorts of discounts on goods on his mind. Five, ten percent. Didn't have time to switch to a new topic in time.
  • mag nit
    mag nit 24 February 2021 08: 05
    +5
    And yet, it is too early for Russia to intervene in the conflict ...
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 24 February 2021 08: 42
      -2
      Yes, Russia could not interfere at all, if Aliyev was talking not with the Sultan, but with the GDP: they could well draw the lines of demarcation of the parties and put up pickets of peacekeepers there, therefore, many thousands of losses of drugs could have been avoided, but who knew that the Armenians would fight do not know how to the level: "Get out! - and he went"
    2. sleeve
      sleeve 24 February 2021 08: 53
      +2
      Yes, I intervened normally. Karabakh will drink in half and end the conflict. And then there was no draft from the cheeks swollen on both sides for 30 years in the Caucasus. Well, let this one "slander". We will see. Armenia is a suitcase without a handle, especially now. So the hole is not dug for us, but for ourselves.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 February 2021 08: 38
    +2
    Or maybe offer him to be a target for the Iskander for 10 minutes, and everything will be resolved by itself? Well, an idiot for life.
  • 7,62x54
    7,62x54 24 February 2021 08: 38
    +1
    Not long ago, Nikola's tail fell off, he would have to wave a stick, and talks about high technology.
    1. cniza
      cniza 24 February 2021 08: 49
      +3
      One can feel Soros's training manual, it crawls right out of my ears ...
  • cniza
    cniza 24 February 2021 08: 47
    +3
    Pashinyan stated that the missiles of the Russian missile systems "are not suitable for use" and "did not explode completely."


    Is he friends with the head?
  • yfast
    yfast 24 February 2021 08: 51
    +4
    The rocket flight speed is 2.1 km / sec. And what, 9 out of 10 intercepted? Then we need to start worrying.
  • aglet
    aglet 24 February 2021 09: 05
    +1
    Maybe the calculations should have been better taught?
  • K-50
    K-50 24 February 2021 09: 18
    +2
    Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan criticized Iskander operational-tactical complexes (OTRK), purchased by Armenia from Russia.

    Well, "expert" is not to criticize! fellow fellow wassat lol
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 24 February 2021 09: 28
    +2
    language .. its enemy! no head .. right now he will speak on his head! then there will be another tie to chew!
    1. Yujanin
      Yujanin 24 February 2021 20: 28
      0

      language .. its enemy! no head .. right now he will speak on his head! then there will be another tie to chew!

  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 24 February 2021 09: 52
    +5
    After the fight, he waved his hands ... The Iskanders are bad, the Russians did not go to fight instead of the Armenians, the generals are stupid, only Pashinyan D'Artagnan!) Urgently order him I serve the American people
  • hydroy
    hydroy 24 February 2021 10: 08
    0
    you are Pashenidze! Turk Nikol is already a corpse, as soon as Kocharyan understood he would come to power in Armenia
  • Israel
    Israel 24 February 2021 10: 17
    0
    If Pashinyan is not lying and let's say it was so, then there are two options, either the Armenians do not know how to handle equipment, or there was a sabotage to disable the complexes.
  • Tuzik
    Tuzik 24 February 2021 10: 30
    0
    I'm honestly shocked that after this war he still remained in his place
  • Oleg Monarchist
    Oleg Monarchist 24 February 2021 10: 39
    0
    I wonder where and when the idiot Parshivyan used Iskander-E?
    They used "Point" or "Elbrus", striking residential areas in Ganja, about which they shouted a lot in Azerbaijan.
  • Bakinec
    Bakinec 24 February 2021 10: 58
    +2
    Sorry, because the Armenians (even Armenian lovers like the journalists Pegov and Sheinin) said that Armenia did not participate in the war and only the Armenians of Karabakh and a small number of volunteers opposed the Azerbaijan-Turkey-Taliban-Ishil-Pakistani-Martian union. And now it turns out that Armenia was shooting with Iskander. Finally, gentlemen Armenians will decide whether Armenia participated in the war or not. And then they got entangled in their lies.
    1. Yujanin
      Yujanin 24 February 2021 14: 15
      +3
      Armenians say little. It is enough to raise the list of those killed and look at the place of residence of the Armenian soldiers. Sources are open among other things.
  • aleks700
    aleks700 24 February 2021 11: 46
    +3
    Exploded by 10%. Just a brain explosion. Give him a banana and a palm tree.
  • helloween
    helloween 24 February 2021 12: 35
    0
    You can laugh for a very long time at Pashinyan's oblique-speaking, but the fact remains that the air defense of Azerbaijan could not overcome 90% of the missiles fired, and meanwhile, Iskander is positioned as capable of passing any air defense,
    until recently we laughed at the tomahawks, which lost 70% during the shelling of an airfield in Syria, but here 90%, there is something to think about and not shout that the Armenians do not know how to fight,
    1. Oleg Monarchist
      Oleg Monarchist 24 February 2021 15: 37
      -2
      helloween (Sergey)

      You can laugh for a very long time at Pashinyan's oblique-speaking, but the fact remains that the air defense of Azerbaijan could not overcome 90% of the missiles fired, and meanwhile, Iskander is positioned as capable of passing any air defense,
      until recently we laughed at the tomahawks, which lost 70% during the shelling of an airfield in Syria, but here 90%, there is something to think about and not shout that the Armenians do not know how to fight,


      Well, will you be so kind. to demonstrate to us the wreckage of hundreds of thousands of downed Iskander E missiles and thereby really confirm the enchanting statement about 90 percent effectiveness of Azerbaijan's air defense, which in reality could not shoot down the Elbrus missiles of the 60s and fell on Ganja.

      I will reveal to you a terrible Armenian-Azerbaijani secret ... If you shoot down unfired missiles on the Internet, the effectiveness of air defense will easily exceed 100 percent laughing
      1. helloween
        helloween 24 February 2021 15: 46
        -1
        this is how the Armenians themselves recognized the Iskander launches. and I assure you that all launches are tracked! and if there was a successful defeat of the goal, then propaganda would very quickly spread this success on all resources! including Russian! and here they were bashfully silent
        1. Oleg Monarchist
          Oleg Monarchist 24 February 2021 15: 57
          -1
          An 8K14 engraving was found on the rocket, which made it possible to determine its type. The missile's range is 300 kilometers.

          BAKU, 12 October - Sputnik. Rocket attack on residential area of ​​Ganja was inflicted by an Elbrus ballistic missile (SCUD) launched by the Armenian armed forces, said Gazanfar Ahmadov, executive director of the Azerbaijan National Agency for Mine Action (ANAMA)

          https://az.sputniknews.ru/karabakh/20201012/425180132/Udar-po-Gyandzhe-nanesen-ballisticheskoy-raketoy-SCUD-zapuschennoy-VS-Armenii---ANAMA.html

          Where did you see Iskander here ?????
          1. helloween
            helloween 24 February 2021 16: 01
            -1
            and that the Armenians only fired one missile?
            1. Oleg Monarchist
              Oleg Monarchist 24 February 2021 16: 06
              +1
              Like a couple, at the airfield. But having successfully overcome 90 percent of the effectiveness of air defense, the missiles fell on residential areas. Armenia stated that they had shot from Iskander, the USA confirmed the same. Azerbaijan stated that it was "Tochka", but the wreckage found "Elbrus".
              In general, first they launched "Iskander", when crossing the border it turned into "Tochka", and already "Elbrus" fell .... That's what the mountain air does. fellow

              A real Armenian without a show-off is not an Armenian.
      2. Yujanin
        Yujanin 24 February 2021 17: 04
        0

        really confirm the enchanting statement about the 90 percent effectiveness of Azerbaijan's air defense, which in reality, they could not shoot down the Elbrus missiles of the 60s and those that fell on Ganja.

        Of all the cities of Azerbaijan, only Baku and Mingachaur were under the air defense umbrella. Well, strategic military and civilian objects.
        1. Oleg Monarchist
          Oleg Monarchist 24 February 2021 17: 47
          0
          No problem. Only another question appears ... if Armenia used Iskander, then where are the fragments of the missiles themselves. The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry also did not announce their discovery at the crash site.
          1. Yujanin
            Yujanin 24 February 2021 17: 55
            0

            No problem. Only another question appears ... if Armenia used Iskander, then where are the fragments of the missiles themselves. The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry also did not announce their discovery at the crash site.

            OTRK Iskander is guided by means of a Russian satellite. Perhaps Aliyev considered it necessary that the Azerbaijanis did not find out that the Armenians were shelling civil cities (an allied commitment) together with the Russian space forces. (There are videos in the net where the Armenians are shouting against the background of the launch from the Iskander OTRK)
            Aliyev did not come to power from the street. The man graduated from MGIMO and taught at this educational institution.
            He definitely knew that the war would end sooner or later, but it would be very difficult to glue the discord between the two peoples after that.
            1. Oleg Monarchist
              Oleg Monarchist 24 February 2021 21: 24
              0
              Yujanin (Shurik)
              OTRK Iskander is guided by means of a Russian satellite. Perhaps Aliyev considered it necessary that the Azerbaijanis did not find out that the Armenians were shelling civil cities (an allied commitment) together with the Russian space forces. (There are videos in the net where the Armenians are shouting against the background of the launch from the Iskander OTRK)
              Aliyev did not come to power from the street. The man graduated from MGIMO and taught at this educational institution.
              He definitely knew that the war would end sooner or later, but it would be very difficult to glue the discord between the two peoples after that.


              Iskander is guided not only by satellite, he can additionally use them, but not necessarily, by the way, both Russian GLONASS and American NAVSTAR laughing

              Aliyev considered it necessary that the Azerbaijanis did not know that the Armenians were shelling civil cities (allied commitment) together with the Russian space forces


              A similar explanation for the absence of Iskander's wreckage in general, from the category of fairy tales

              (in the net there are videos where the Armenians shout against the background of the launch from the Iskander OTRK)

              What kind of videos are not on the internet laughing

              By the way, Pashinyan, in an interview with a journalist (it was cut out), said that in his family someone is 10% pregnant. The journalist asked "Your wife", Pashinyan replied "I don't know", "How? Are you pregnant? Pashinyan also said" I don't know .... did not report " wassat
              1. Yujanin
                Yujanin 24 February 2021 22: 31
                +1
                All jokes, but on the night after the surrender, the Armenians made two launches of OTRK in Baku and Sumgait. They wanted to ruin the holiday for people. Both missiles were defused in the air. Sumgait residents are lucky that there is a military airfield nearby, which is guarded by missile defense / air defense. Debris from the missiles fell in the area of ​​the Sumgait chemical plant.
                And another missile in the direction of Baku was shot down over Khirdalan (7 km from the capital). Despite many eyewitnesses, the attacks on Baku and Sumgait were not covered in the media. And those publications that covered the strikes deleted the news a couple of hours later.
                So, it seems to me that Pashinyan's statement that 90% of the missiles did not reach the target should be interpreted from this angle.
                With regard to the "Armenian Iskander": everyone who is in the subject perfectly understands that these complexes "got" free of charge to Armenia within the framework of the interstate agreement on the unification of the group of forces. And they are based in Gyumri. And in wartime this grouping of troops is led by the Russian side. Let's not go around and around anymore.
                Or do you think that the Russian Federation, at the request of Armenia and as an exception, created a cut-down version for an ally in the amount of 4 launchers?
                If this is not the case, then why were these Iskander-e supplies not included in the international report on arms exports? Russia is a member of the MTCR club. And according to the rules of the convention, it is obliged to indicate the sale of such weapons. This is required by the missile technology control regime.
              2. Yujanin
                Yujanin 24 February 2021 23: 12
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                Iskander is guided not only by satellite, he can additionally use them, but not necessarily, by the way, both Russian GLONASS and American NAVSTAR laughing

                OTRK Iskander has an optical homing head. To use g / s, you need to have a digitized image of the impact point at which the device will be aimed. And to get a digital photo, you need a reconnaissance aircraft, drone, or satellite. After shooting the terrain, the photograph is digitized and inserted into the device to correct the rocket. Considering that the Armenians did not have a serious UAV, let alone a reconnaissance aircraft, they needed satellite photos to guide Iskander.
                Now do you understand the role of the Russian space forces in the destruction of Azerbaijani civilians?
                Excuse me for being right, but you yourself forced me to write the details.
                1. Oleg Monarchist
                  Oleg Monarchist 25 February 2021 01: 26
                  +1
                  Missiles "Elbrus" or "Scud" in the western classification, (the fragments of which will be demonstrated by the Azerbaijanis) are not fired with the help of the Russian Aerospace Forces, however, like the Iskander))))
                  And if you carefully read the nonsense that Pashinyan is carrying, you will see that he would surely have won Azerbaijan without options, only he got defective missiles.
                  By the way, how "Iskander guided by the evil Russian Aerospace Forces" could kill "Azerbaijani civilians" if, according to Parshivyan, they did not explode. In theory, the whole should fall, they do not even fly into fragments in this case. And again, Parshivyan did not say that they were shot down, he said they did not explode. This is exactly what we want to find out here. And given that the fragments of the "shot down" (from your words) or whole unexploded missiles (from the words of Parshivyan) are absent, it follows from this that they used them.
                  1. Oleg Monarchist
                    Oleg Monarchist 25 February 2021 01: 30
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                    And it turns out that Parshivyan's words about the defective "Iskander ah" of the 80s (although if my memory serves me in 99 he appeared, this is twisting ass in an attempt to justify himself in front of the Armenians, for ... Karabakh asked for by him.
                    1. Oleg Monarchist
                      Oleg Monarchist 25 February 2021 01: 35
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                      Regarding the digitized maps, read the Armenian-Azerbaijani press for 2016, the Armenians stated that they have all the maps, they know everything, they know everything stop
                  2. FrankyStein
                    FrankyStein 25 February 2021 22: 35
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                    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already denied Pashinyan's statement about the launches of Iskander, the entire ammunition of the Armenian forces has not been touched.
                2. FrankyStein
                  FrankyStein 25 February 2021 22: 38
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                  Showcase the Iskander wreckage, it would be easy to spot.
  • cheburator
    cheburator 24 February 2021 14: 51
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    And what, how they bought it in 2016. OTRK, and never checked, did not shoot from them? If so, then the gunpowder is really damp, but only in Armenian boshes. Bad dancers get in the way! So the pashyan is to blame for everything and everything that he fucked up the war!
    We are Russians! God with us!
    1. helloween
      helloween 24 February 2021 15: 07
      +2
      You know, the rocket is not the core of Baron Munhausen, if a launch was made, then everything further depends on the performance of the weapon, and if it was shot down by the enemy's air defense, then what does Pashinyan, Sargsyan, Vardanyan and other Armenians have to do with it?
      the service life of the missiles is 10 years, and a little more than 3 years have passed since the delivery of the complex to Armenia,
      just somehow inconvenient for Russia, it turns out that the world's best missile system, as it is called, turned out to be incapable of combat! and it would be nice to know how many launches were made, how many missiles were shot down, and how many just did not reach
  • YURI N.
    YURI N. 24 February 2021 15: 08
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    So far there are 2500 people in Armenia !!!!
    The staff of the American embassy, ​​and Pashinyan prEzidEnt will not do anything good. The Armenian people need to throw off this little chap, reduce the number of the American embassy to 20-30 people, remove NGOs from "democratic" countries, and only then will they try to hold elections! Otherwise, there will be a revolution (roses or cognacs) and alas, the victims ........
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 February 2021 15: 32
    +1
    On a hara with a pissing rag. It will be good if they drown this monkey laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 February 2021 15: 35
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    Iskander is a weapon of the 80s? Well, after such pearls, I certainly believe Pashinyan. laughing 300-500? This is already a strategic scale with the removal of the nearby infrastructure to zero.

    However, the front-line operation is a priori strategic, in Karabakh it simply would have nowhere to deploy. laughing

    Taking into account the minimization of the attack time and the necessary volley power - yes, an expensive pleasure.

    It's one thing to launch 300 missiles a month and quite another with a couple of volleys. in the course of the day. A front-line operation is a million (or even two or three) military personnel goes to another million. It’s clear that they will have a lot of large ammunition depots, fuel, transport hubs, command posts of at least a corps level, bridges, airfields ... All this must be hit with tactical missiles. Here 300-500 is just a sane amount.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 February 2021 15: 36
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    And the fuel in the rocket was unloaded. If liquid, then donkey urine, and if solid - donkey feces. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 February 2021 15: 37
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    And how will he now get to Russia to ask for something? Let them interrupt on their own, since they are so stupid and crooked. crying The dude has 10% of the power left, so he is spinning like a louse on a comb. Oh, Armenians, how many times to explain to the "old" people that after a fight they don't wave their fists. And, even more so, the classic - "and at all, we did not crap" - looks like your vulgar clownery. Follow the example of the Jews!  laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 February 2021 15: 44
    +1
    Yes, it was ours who remotely self-destructed a couple of missiles launched at the end of the cut at the Azeri peacekeeper. I think when the varchapet nits were bred to spin Shushi, he freaked out, ordered the Iskanders to fry the farmers, ours prevented it. Isn't it a version? Much overlaps.
  • Adam men
    Adam men 24 February 2021 15: 46
    0
    Bad dancer "Iskander" gets in the way
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 24 February 2021 16: 03
    +2
    It turns out that this Pashinyan is an Armenian copy of the "Egyptian political prostitution" of sadat. He, too, did not teach his warriors how to properly use Soviet weapons, then accused the USSR of slipping "bad" weapons into him. Therefore, de Israel did them.
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    Not only did "RK" Iskander "get half the price and the Russians gave loans. So they didn’t really learn how to manage them. It was less necessary for the Armenian officers for cognac, instead of studying, to receive weapons training certificates at training ranges. wassat
  • Cheshire
    Cheshire 24 February 2021 16: 39
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    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Cheshire
    Barmaley have a different opinion.

    Did they tell you that, or did Soloviev tell you?

    Regarding the Iskander, the Azerbaijanis wrote for a long time that not one of them hit the target. It would be better to check the cause of the miss, and not to grumble.

    So I have to check for Armenians?
  • mmaxx
    mmaxx 24 February 2021 17: 28
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    You, Armenians, did not even fight! Stupidly, they began to fight with Azerbaijan. Now some pieces of iron are to blame.
  • ALEX_SHTURMAN
    ALEX_SHTURMAN 24 February 2021 17: 52
    +2
    With these Pashinyans, Parashenki, Zelenskiy everything is clear for a long time. A question to ours: why the heck Putin communicates with them, recognizes their elections, concludes contracts, etc., etc. With all these actions, he seems to legalize these comrades.
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  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 24 February 2021 18: 43
    +1
    Quote: hydrox
    Well, fir-trees!
    Not only is the state's aspirate itself, but with the hand (oh!) Of a cowardly army that does not want to fight, These scoundrels also demand that the Russians abandon their base in Gyumri!
    Or maybe the Russians should go to the sultan and say: "Take our base, but make sure that there is no smell of Armenian in the Caucasus!"
    Do you need this, Armenians?
    But then you will all have to leave the borders of Russia, if you treat us with such hatred!

    A small group tried to raise the issue of reducing the embassy of mattress makers, they say, Armenia has good relations with us and with Iran, there is no need for such a number and reduce to 20-25 people, as elsewhere, they were even going to hold a rally, but nobody really supported.
    Armenians hate Kocharyan and Sargisyan who steal from Karabakh, therefore our attempts to rely on Vladimir Vladimirovich's friend, Robert Kocharyan, are unsuccessful, and he still walks around the courts.
    Pashinyan deliberately provoked Azerbaijan to the war, those who believe that he did all this out of his feeble mind are deeply mistaken. Those who believe that "Pashinyan is broken by defeat" are also mistaken, once again - he clearly went to war and, most importantly, he perfectly understood its results. And it is no less important that his owners from the State Department perfectly understood this. Moreover, the superiority of the Azerbaijani army, in the preparation of which their NATO ally, as well as themselves, took part, was no secret for them. Yes, yes, do not be surprised how I recently, it turns out, almost all the officers of the Azerbaijani special forces, which played a role in the war no less important than the strike UAVs, AFTER training in Turkey, they went to the United States for training, and later participated in many exercises under the auspices of the United States ...
    So the defeat not even of Armenia, but of the pro-Russian Karabakh clan, the normalization of relations between Armenia and Azerbaijan, even at least to the level, image and semblance of love between Turkey and Greece, let me remind the NATO allies, pursues far-reaching goals and is part of a more global plan to encircle us the belt of the USA satellite countries.
    This war is part of the mattress plan, the goal of which is to seize Transcaucasia. And that means pushing us from the south, and besides, having a stable connection with Central Asia.

    The Armenians know and understand all this very well; the tilt to the West took place even before Pashinyan. Well, judge for yourself, they, formally the CSTO country and our ally, did not crawl out of NATO programs, they even went to the NATO sabbaths held in Baku, the capital of enemy Azerbaijan. In the same way, in the Baltic States and in Ukraine, they heroized Nzhdeh, who collaborated with the Nazis, whose touch you hear like a tracing paper of the same Westerners about the national hero Bandera or the Baltic SS veterans.
    So we will not have to go to the Sultan, and the Armenians themselves with their patrons from the State Department and their vassal sultan will ask us from Transcaucasia.

    Sargsyan surrendered Armenia to the West long before Pashinyan, and he knew exactly what and where everything was going. All these statements about Iskanders who do not laugh at the Armenians, etc., are only for the needs of the local population, the majority of the active part of which also agrees to defeat as the price for going to the West. Well, Sargisyan blathers on duty, so as not to get a hat on our side, apparently part of our capital has grown dull and looks decent in front of his Karabakh clan. But by and large, Sargisyan, who started a conversation about OTRK Ikander, is himself a part or participant of the West's game against us in Transcaucasia. So this skirmish between him and Pashinyan is like a negotiated match and nothing more.