Retired Greek Colonel: There is a new Russian-Turkish war in Syria

Greek columnist Panayotis Nastos, a retired colonel and master of the School of National Security, publishes an assessment of events in the Syrian Arab Republic. In the material presented by the aforementioned author on the pages of the publication Pentapostagma, the events in Syria are called "a new Russian-Turkish war."

The retired Greek colonel writes that today Syria is preparing for full control over the airspace of this country.

Panayiotis Nastos:

Russia maintains and even increases its military presence in Syria. This is a clear signal to both Turkey and Israel that Moscow is ready to resist aggression against the Syrian state. Of course, the Russian Foreign Ministry does not speak specifically about these countries, but it makes it clear that Turkey is conducting "unwanted military operations" in the SAR, including in areas where Russian troops are present.

For example, we are talking about the Turkish shelling of the city of Ain Issa, where a Russian observation post was created at the request of the local (Kurdish) administration.

Against this background, a battle appeared over Ain Issa. aviation... Syrian sources say that these "can be Russian Aerospace Forces planes."

The Greek author writes that Russia is "annoyed" by the Israeli bombing of Syria "under the pretext of attacks on Iranian and pro-Iranian forces." The retired Greek colonel says Israeli aircraft "frequently strike after coordinating with the US military present in Syria."

Nastos:

In 2020, Turkey lost at least 60 of its military in Syria, 100 Turkish soldiers were injured. Over a dozen Turkish drones were shot down by air defenses. Then in the United States, Moscow was accused of involvement in the death of Turkish soldiers. But Russia denies all accusations.

At the same time, Nastos focuses on the fact that Russian-Turkish relations in Syria cannot be called cloudless, since each of the states in the SAR has its own goals and interests, and these goals and interests are often opposite.

Comments

[askort154]

Well done Greek colonel, he voiced the specific situation of relations between Turkey and Russia in Syria, which our Foreign Ministry and Defense Ministry "diplomatically" keep silent about ..

[nnm]

Well, rather, not a war, but a "test of strength", and in which each side must understand the prospects for future extrapolation of strength to the Middle East

[Baloo]

Quote: nnm

Well, rather, not a war, but a "test of strength", and in which each side must understand the prospects for future extrapolation of strength to the Middle East

Another world war, given the number of countries involved and involved in the conflict. The motive is the same as in all previous world wars after 1945.

[Comrade]

And there along the way and to Armageddon is not far!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: nnm

Well, rather, not a war, but a "test of strength", and in which each side must understand the prospects for future extrapolation of strength to the Middle East

Whose war is this? For whose interests is this war? What does "future extrapolation of power to the Middle East" mean? Future wars for "markets" in the Middle East? For funding jobs in the Middle East? Let's leave ISIS and other terrorists alone for now, we all know who breeds terrorists. Maybe you should focus on the development of industry in your country first? This is not a people's war.

[Terenin]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Let's leave ISIS and other terrorists alone for now,

Not. We will not leave. Don't get your hopes up.

[Gardamir]

Not. We will not leave. Do not hope

Do you support terrorists? You can't live without them.?

[Terenin]

Quote: Gardamir

Do you support terrorists?

Are you talking about yourself with the Anglo-Saxons?

Quote: Gardamir

You can't live without them.?

Ask them.

[Labrador]

Whoever does not wet the barmaley on the way to his home is doomed to do it at home with great costs. We have already left Afgan once.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Labrador

We have already left Afgan once.

And what does this have to do with it?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Labrador

Afgan has already left once

Not in the subject. A completely different case. Betrayed in Afghanistan. And together with Afghanistan, they betrayed the USSR.

[Labrador]

Yes, the comparison is not entirely correct. Yes, betrayed.
But where did the barmaley crawl, including from Afgan?

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Labrador

But where did the barmaley crawl, including from Afgan?

Refugees to Europe.

[Alex Justice]

Betrayed in Afghanistan. And together with Afghanistan, they betrayed the USSR.

Not betrayed, but foolishly entered to the joy of America.

[Mariana Poladashvili]

How clever of you! And America, to the delight of who got there, you will not prompt. Or can't you get enough of it?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Terenin

Not. We will not leave. Don't get your hopes up.

Are you trying to classify me as an ISIS terrorist? Great! You are a great fellow, you will definitely receive your "barrel of jam" and "bag of cookies".

[Gardamir]

extrapolation of force to the middle east

As if in the Caucasus they did not begin to back away.

[Terenin]

Quote: Gardamir

extrapolation of force to the middle east

As if in the Caucasus they did not begin to back away.

Well, try to experience "happiness".

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Gardamir

As if in the Caucasus they did not begin to back away.

I live there. There are no "stumbling blocks" yet, except for females.))))) But all this can change very quickly. Education is degrading, Christianity and Islam are advancing. The state supports this process. Something like this.

[Clear]

Retired Greek Colonel:

Of these three words, only the word "colonel" is not suspicious.

[Alex widerkehr]

They have already tried to shoot down the plane. Then the Israelis conducted maneuvers again, the Russians were killed. All and sundry are hammering in Syria.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: askort154

Well done Greek colonel,

"I rode a Greek across the river, sees a Greek cancer in the river, thrust a Greek hand into the river, cancer by the hand of a Greek tsap!"

[fruc]

Well done Greek colonel, voiced ............
valid as desired.

[Terenin]

Quote: askort154

Well done Greek colonel

The good fellow is among the sheep, and among the good fellow is the sheep himself.
The country itself is under the control of the Anglo-Saxons, and he analyzes Syria.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Terenin

The country itself is under the control of the Anglo-Saxons, and he analyzes Syria.

What does it change?

[Prisoner]

They are silent, so it is necessary. What is the demand from a Greek colonel, especially a retiree? The Greeks have their own interest, we have ours.

[Pereira]

He voiced a Greek dream. The Russians will do everything for them.

[askort154]

askort154 "Well done Greek colonel ", voiced a specific situation.
I see many disagree. Then I'll decipher my message.
Who can explain today, or where do they sound at the highest levels of our
power structures - what strategic canons today link Russia with Turkey? Don't look, there are none. There are no interstate strategic agreements. There is only impulsive "kissing" with the unpredictable Erdogan. And if translated into sports language, then
more goals were scored into our goal than into the Turkish goal. I will not list everything, only the last two - Azeibarjan and Ukrainian. And this is much more significant than our mutual penalties at BV. While we're driving
"igil" (zapr RF) in Syria, Erdogan impudently climbs into our "embrace with a brick in his bosom", and we friendly conducted him our "gas pipe" with a valve distributor for the EU,
We are building ATE at our own expense (in debt). He responds by arming Ukraine, and openly declares that Crimea is a Turkish-Ukrainian theme. The Greek retired colonel sees this, and our prodigy elite "makes a beautiful face" on the big stage.
So - well done Greek colonel! Voiced what he cannot voice, openly, our Colonel General.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: askort154

I will not list everything, only the last two - Azeibarjan and Ukrainian

here you are wrong ..... assassination of ambassador number 1

[Hottabych]

And I think that the comments of a retired Greek colonel are from the same series as the American map of expanding the zone of Turkish interests until 2050 ... The tandem of Turkey - Russia is very inconvenient for the Western partners.

[iouris]

Not a real colonel. Gives out misinformation. Everything is more complicated.

[Anar]

The outcast Greek plays on the Russian audience to turn it against Turkey. He understands that at the moment only 3 countries can hold Turkey. These are Russia, USA, China. The United States will not get in because it is most interested in this conflict, China does not need this, Russia is left, which is not like the Greeks, the whole of Europe is not envious of loving. This is how the races spoil the relationship between their enemy and those who are not under pressure.
By the way, pay attention that all the incitement between Russia and Turkey comes from the Greek press, then from its top. Other countries are nervously smoking on the sidelines.
When she plays it out, she gets hit in the head by both ...

[nonsense]

IMHO this GREEK colonel voiced rather your wishlist...

[max702]

Oh, how the cunningly dressed Greek wants the Russians to do the Greeks well again, paying for it with their blood ... The conflict between Russia and Turkey is a balm for the soul of any Greek .. As well as Israelis and Americans and any Anglo-Saxons .. This has been done for centuries, and again I really want .. Another not brothers .. Live on your own Jews ..

[Thrifty]

Well, in many respects he is right, we and the Turks are not directly, they are through the militants, we are opposing the “opponent” through the Syrian army. With the Turks, we have always had mostly wars, because our states have completely different interests in the region.

[Prisoner]

The stump is clear, the Turk should be trusted to rely on the water. But the Greeks are the same, if not worse. They have already demonstrated their insides.

[Borik]

While Russia and Turkey are fighting among themselves in Syria by proxy. But there are exceptions when the Turks shot down our plane. Or when the Turks "accidentally" fell under an airstrike from our Aerospace Forces.

[Observer2014]

Retired Greek Colonel: There is a new Russian-Turkish war in Syria

How cool it is to read those to whom the Turks have stood up across their throats. But they themselves cannot do anything. We have already read such people over the past half year so especially.

[Cowbra]

Translation from Greek into Russian: us. along with the French, the Turks bent down, developing deposits near Cyprus. And since it is weak for us to fight, we want the Russians to fight the Turks.
Simplicity is worse than stealing

[Growlers]

The Greeks again want, strongly want to fight Turkey with someone else's hands.

[Emil mamedoff]

Greek commentator

Another Greek muffler.
Go cry Daddy Biden in his pants.

[Alien From]

Yes, the devil will break his leg.

[tralflot1832]

And how do the Turks continue to drill the Greek bottom there?

[Terenin]

Quote: tralflot1832

And how do the Turks continue to drill the Greek bottom there?

Yes, as they want! And none of the Greeks will squeak. The Greeks only get analyzes ...

[tralflot1832]

Well, the Black Sea Fleet give stocks to replenish, at least some benefit.

[Terenin]

Quote: tralflot1832

Well, the Black Sea Fleet give stocks to replenish, at least some benefit.

This, yes

[rocket757]

Retired Greek Colonel: There is a new Russian-Turkish war in Syria

It is unlikely that this is such a war .... "fitting", test for lice! And then ... who knows what will happen next.

[nobody75]

Yes, it is clear what will happen next. So far, the Turks have a business for the transit of refugees from Syria to Europe. They receive income twice. From refugees for transportation, from the European Union for accommodation. As soon as the Syrians restore the border, this whole "war" will cease to be interesting for the Turks. The Americans took oil for themselves, the Turks cut the Kurds a little, and the Syrian desert without food and water was needed to lay a gas pipeline ... was ... But now?
Sincerely

[rocket757]

The economic benefit of "acquisitions" is an argument.
But who will give him?
Take it yourself ... it's a dumb business, they can knock on the ears.
East business .... muddy. It turns out that way.

[nobody75]

Yes ... now it's interesting to stir up in Libya ... I have one idea ...
Sincerely

[rocket757]

Libya, it is of course Africa, but the principles and habits are the same! Power decides everything.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: nobody75

I have one thought ...

Well?

[Terenin]

Quote: rocket757

And then ... who knows what will happen next.

Everything will depend on the political and military professionalism of the player countries on this "chessboard"

[rocket757]

In the east, STRENGTH matters. It became obvious to everyone long ago.

[Terenin]

Quote: rocket757

In the east, STRENGTH matters. It became obvious to everyone long ago.

Yes. It is necessary, as far as possible, to demonstrate it.

[rocket757]

What to demonstrate, you need to have !!! otherwise it is window dressing with unpleasant consequences, then.

[Terenin]

Quote: rocket757

What to demonstrate, you need to have !!! otherwise it is window dressing with unpleasant consequences, then.

Certainly.

[nobody75]

Endgame is a simple calculation
Sincerely

[Rose capone]

They gave the Turks free gingerbread in the form of exporting millions of tourists with their currency, buying tomatoes and so on. tops, construction of a nuclear power plant on credit, creation from Turkey of the largest speculator of Russian and Azerbaijani cheap gas to Europe, awarded Turkey S-400 for "sawing" by NATO countries and the USA. Now we give them SU-57 and the Sputnik-M vaccine, again at a loss.
Russia itself is entangling the situation in an indelible, dangerous tangle. Adolf Aloizovich Erdogan-zadeh, what is our zombie? And in response, only, the murder of our pilots in Karabakh and over Syria, the murder of the ambassador, terrible Russophobia, the supply of lethal weapons in a future war to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, the construction of factories for the production of UAVs and MANPADS missiles for them in Azerbaijan, Ukraine, Georgia, etc. And the Inzherlik airbase warmed someone, along with short- and medium-range strategic weapons, and NATO military harbors in the Aegean, Black and Mediterranean Seas. Our General Staff, explain to the Chief ...

[bairat]

My opinion is that our Chief does not confuse anything, he does everything right. This is not clear to you, but he sees the situation better. At least with regard to Turkey. And for the first time I hear about the terrible Russophobia, like I go there every year, except for the last one.

[Tank hard]

Quote: bairat

This is not clear to you, but he sees the situation better.

Explain to me what the Russian Federation is doing in Syria? There is no need for the fight against terrorists, the whole world is fighting there, especially the United States.

[bairat]

Here it is necessary to roll back for ten years. With the fact that ISIS armed the Americans agree?

[Tank hard]

Quote: bairat

Here it is necessary to roll back for ten years. With the fact that ISIS armed the Americans agree?

Let's just. What are the Russian armed forces doing there? What is the real need of the people of the Russian Federation in their presence there?

[bairat]

If ISIS had not been stopped then, Assad was already sitting on his suitcases, the next goal for them was planned - to exit through Iran and Afghanistan to Central Asia. The Taliban are the only ones who are fighting against Alqaida in Afghanistan. Guess whose side the Americans are on? The corridor was prepared for them in advance, but it did not work out. And now they would catch the militants on the completely unfitted border with Kazakhstan, in the crowds of refugees. Enough?

[Tank hard]

Quote: bairat

If ISIS had not been stopped then, Assad was already sitting on his suitcases, the next goal for them was planned - to exit through Iran and Afghanistan to Central Asia. The Taliban are the only ones who are fighting against Alqaida in Afghanistan. Guess whose side the Americans are on? The corridor was prepared for them in advance, but it did not work out. And now they would catch the militants on the completely unfitted border with Kazakhstan, in the crowds of refugees. Enough?

Come on ... I was on the territory of Kyrgyzstan until 2005. Which side is Syria to Afghanistan?

[bairat]

Iraq was already under the ISIS, there only Iran had to be dealt with.

[Tank hard]

Quote: bairat

Iraq was already under ISIS, only Iran had to be dealt with

Even now they can move radicals through Afghanistan if they want. I never see that Syria has stopped the movement of someone to Central Asia. These are different things. Syria is one. Central Asia is different. It's just that no one has yet studied Central Asia properly.

[bairat]

The main thing is who needs to see, own the situation on the ground and prevent exacerbations. In ISIS from your former Kyrgyzstan, 500 people fought, well, I can't do anything about "I don't see", I'll end up with an educational program.

[Tank hard]

Quote: bairat

The main thing is who needs to see, own the situation on the ground and prevent exacerbations

Yah?! I would like to hope so ... However, I doubt it. In the same Kyrgyzstan, some of the territories are not controlled by anyone except relatives and friends of certain clans. For example, a high-ranking official may come with a request, they will simply beat him up, take off his pants and send him on foot to where he came from. Not to mention Tajikistan, and even more so Afghanistan. I don’t know where you control whom ... Regarding the educational program. I personally knew some of the bodyguards of the first and second presidents of Kyrgyzstan. We trained in the same gym. Some of the "field commanders" from Tajikistan and Afghanistan were sometimes brought there for training. Well, the guys worked with them, there is such a practice. Tell me about Afghanistan and Tajikistan, eliminate my illiteracy?

[bairat]

Control your auls yourself. Your local mess proves once again that ISIS would have gone through butter there like a knife. Therefore, the infection was stopped at distant lines.

[Tank hard]

Quote: bairat

Control your auls yourself

It is correct to say ayily.

Quote: bairat

Your local mess proves once again that ISIS would have gone through butter there like a knife.

They did not pass in Batken, however ...

Quote: bairat

Therefore, the infection was stopped at distant lines.

Nobody has stopped anything yet. But you are free to think and be mistaken as you please.

[bairat]

If there was such a conviction, why ask something? Would express your opinion and that's it.

[Tank hard]

Quote: bairat

If there was such a conviction, why ask something? Would express your opinion and that's it.

I was curious to know what you can say about the presence of Russian troops in Syria. But you have the usual cliches from the TV. Those. you don't really know anything. But you have an opinion. Everything is as usual.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Tank Hard

Not to mention Tajikistan,

Quote: Tank Hard

Tell me about Afghanistan and Tajikistan, eliminate my illiteracy?

And you ask at your leisure what tasks in Tajikistan have been performed since the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan 201 division and the PV group of the FSB of Russia

[Tank hard]

Quote: Sarboz

And you ask at your leisure what tasks in Tajikistan have been performed since the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan 201 division and the PV group of the FSB of Russia

Why should I be interested? My friends and acquaintances served there at that time. My coach in sambo and hand-to-hand. Some of the guys started serving in peacekeeping battalions in Tajikistan, they were then transferred to our unit. How is this to Syria about which I was talking?

[Sarboz]

Quote: Tank Hard

How is this to Syria about which I was talking?

This base is directly related to Syria. These are elements of a single complex for ensuring Russia's security in the direction of the "southern underbelly," as it was called before.
Here you casually rejected Airat's arguments, but he, on the whole, outlined the right direction of the threats that our "partners" in the Middle East were preparing for us.

Quote: bairat

If ISIS had not been stopped then ... the next goal for them was planned - an exit through Iran and Afghanistan to Central Asia. Who is the only one fighting Alqaida in Afghanistan - the Taliban. Guess whose side the Americans are on? The corridor was prepared for them in advance, but it did not work out. And now they would catch the militants on the completely unfitted border with Kazakhstan, in the crowds of refugees.

We will not pay attention to some confusion in the names of groups. There, everything is so confused into a single tangle that experts will not guarantee who is who. The bottom line is correct. ISIS, drained of blood, deprived of its material and technical base in Syria, is trying to revive in the form of a quasi-state entity in a new place. The corridor to Afghanistan for the battered trash was provided by an international coalition. Upon arriving at the scene, ISIS had to engage in clashes with the Taliban. Lacking the material base and support of the local population, ISIS was mostly defeated. The Taliban set up prisons for the captured aliens. But further interesting events began to occur. The forces of the American special forces carried out a number of landing operations, as a result of which the ISIS leaders with their families and ordinary militants were released and evacuated by helicopters in an unknown direction. Operations were carried out secretly at night, with direct witnesses from prison guards destroyed. But there was a puncture in Badghis province. During the storming of a Taliban prison near the mountain village of Panjboz, a sergeant of the 75th Ranger Regiment from Washington, Cameron A, was fatally wounded. Four days later, the sergeant died in the Landstuhl military hospital in Germany. As it should be according to the regulations, information about the death of the ranger, the time and place of the injury was published on the Pentagon website: "DOD identifies Army Casuality:" died ... as a results of injuries sustained from small arms fire during combat operation on Jan. 13 , 2019, in Jawand District, Badghis Province, Afghanistan. "The time and place coincided with the statement of the Taliban spokesman. So everything surfaced. And on January 28, 2019, at the Interior Ministry board, the scheme was announced in more detail:" ISIS militants en masse by unknown helicopters with the territories of Pakistan are being transferred today to the border of Tajikistan. There, apparently, large-scale provocations are planned in the future with the squeezing of a large number of refugees and with all the consequences in the direction of the Russian Federation. "Sometimes, to stop the provocation, it is enough to hint to the" partners "that we are aware of their intentions.
Do not forget that the presence of troops in the region, in addition to the tasks of destroying the enemy's manpower and equipment, points of material and technical supply, makes it possible to organize operational work to collect intelligence and counterintelligence information.

Quote: Tank Hard

Not to mention Tajikistan, and even more so Afghanistan. I don't know where you control who ...

I tried to answer this question of yours with an example.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Sarboz

These are elements of a single complex for ensuring Russia's security in the direction of the "southern underbelly," as it was called before.
Here you casually rejected Airat's arguments, but he, on the whole, outlined the right direction of the threats that our "partners" in the Middle East were preparing for us.

You have described everything so beautifully that one can only hope that everything in those areas is good. So my land colorfully described the situation. What is the trouble? I don't really believe in colorful pictures.

And you ask at your leisure what tasks in Tajikistan have been performed since the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan 201 division and the PV group of the FSB of Russia

And this is what? The PS was given by the FSB, sort of like 2003:

On July 1, 2003, by the decree of the President of the Russian Federation [16], the Federal Border Service of the Russian Federation was abolished. Its functions were transferred to the jurisdiction of the Border Service, created by the same decree, as part of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation. To organize the activities of the newly created structure, the Organizational Department of the Frontier Service of the FSB of Russia is being formed.

In Tajikistan, for example, were Russian border guards carried out in 2005?

On July 13, 2005, the withdrawal of Russian border guards was officially completed; a limited contingent remained in the status of foreign advisers [1].

In 2011, the composition of the Russian contingent was reduced from 350 to 200 people [2] until 2016.

What is the point of the PV FSB of the Russian Federation?

[Sarboz]

Quote: Tank Hard

And this is what? The PS was given by the FSB, sort of like 2003:

There was no need to quote Wikipedia in such detail. I am aware of all the experiments of democrats in the 90s to reform the structure of border troops. Of course, the damage to the border service as a result of all the turbulence was colossal, but thank God the service survived, strengthened and remained under the authority of the FSB. From the PV of the KGB of the USSR to the SS of the FSB of the Russian Federation is not an easy path. But for all thirty years they have been our border troops. Even if you call it a pot, just don't put it in the stove.

Quote: Tank Hard

In Tajikistan, for example, were Russian border guards carried out in 2005?

Speak all right. Put the question correctly.
But you yourself answer:

Quote: Tank Hard

limited contingent remained in the status of foreign advisers

This is what I was talking about:

Quote: Sarboz

... to organize operational work to collect intelligence and counterintelligence information.

This is what our advisory apparatus is also doing.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Sarboz

There was no need to quote Wikipedia in such detail. I am aware of all the experiments of the Democrats in the 90s to reform the structure of border troops.

From what? Or is there incorrect information? And I will also add that it is not written there ... They threw out of the republics the border service of the Russian Federation, I think that not without pressure and the participation of "partners", such as the United States. At times I got the impression that it is the "partners" who control the situation in Central Asia. I don't know how now. But something tells me that the "partners" simply have not taken seriously Central Asia yet. And yes, the interest of the "partners" in Central Asia, it is mostly China with its Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, and the Russian Federation and others are different, this is the second stage. However, this is IMHO. And yes, you know, you have collected the information. Not like me, an illiterate collective farmer from an aul.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Tank Hard

They threw out of the republics the border service of the Russian Federation, I think that not without pressure and the participation of "partners", such as the United States.

Why is it necessary to see everything in this way? The Tajik leadership, unlike Turkmenbashi, initially understood that they could not cope with the invasion of Islamists from Afghanistan on their own. They themselves asked Russia to take on the balance of the 201st division and the personnel of the KSAPO on the territory of Tajikistan. By 2005, most of the personnel and officers of the group already consisted of local ones, which in fact was one of the tasks of the OG PS FSB of the Russian Federation - to prepare the Tajik border service for independent border protection. After the withdrawal, as mentioned above, the task force remained. So there was no throwing out. Of course, the "partners" would like to squeeze us out of the region, but the 201st base is there, as far as I heard, for a long time.
I didn’t tell you anything about the collective farmers from the aul. I myself know something, only because I served in KSAPO. And our head of the border detachment commanded the task force in Tajikistan for some time.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Sarboz

So there was no throwing out.

Well, this is your opinion, I have another.

Quote: Sarboz

They themselves asked Russia to take on the balance of the 201st division and the personnel of the KSAPO on the territory of Tajikistan. By 2005, most of the personnel and officers of the group already consisted of local ones, which, in fact, was one of the tasks of the OG PS FSB of the Russian Federation - to prepare the Tajik border service for independent border protection. After the withdrawal, as mentioned above, the task force remained. So there was no throwing out.

I understand the final. that some are always ready to put a good face on a bad game. This is usually loved by diplomats of all stripes. But personally, I got the impression. what exactly was thrown out. And even concern, I do not remember what anyone expressed. But you are free to believe whatever you want. Your right.

Quote: Sarboz

but the 201st base is there, as far as I hear, for a long time.

May be. depends on the political situation in the region. As well as the base in Kant. Like 102 in Gyumri. The winds of politics are changeable. I am not free to predict ...

Quote: Sarboz

I didn’t tell you anything about the collective farmers from the aul.

But he speaks. Do you kind of support him?

bairat (Ayrat)
23 February 2021 21: 59

+2
Their auls control yourself. Your local mess proves once again that ISIS members would have gone like a knife through butter there.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Tank Hard

Well, this is your opinion, I have another.

I completely agree with you. Everyone is free to have their own opinion.
And the "partners" were actively squeezing out and will continue to squeeze us out both in Kyrgyzstan and in Tajikistan. In the same Syria, they occupied the entire northeastern zone and will put pressure there.

Quote: Tank Hard

But he speaks. Do you kind of support him?
bairat (Ayrat)
23 February 2021 21: 59

+2
Control your auls yourself. Your local mess proves once again that ISIS members would have gone like a knife through butter there.

And what did he write incorrectly? In my opinion, everything is so.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Sarboz

And what did he write incorrectly? In my opinion, everything is so.

Well, what kind of dialogue can we have with you after this? Good wind for you.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Tank Hard

Well, what kind of dialogue can we have with you after this? Good wind for you.

Do not take it personally. Sloppy can put it. I was referring to the local mentality in the republics of Central Asia. Like a knife through butter. If it were not for our presence there, it would be so.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Sarboz

Sloppy can put it.

Boorish. Do you know what the concept means - great-power chauvinism? This is the very moment when some believe that they supposedly (supposedly the key word) have the right to send someone to the aul. The result in the long term is deplorable for them. send, as history shows, themselves. Wherein. because of this. to put it bluntly, ordinary people suffer from non-smart behavior. which have nothing to do with it in essence, but they are associated with these chauvinists.

Quote: Sarboz

Like a knife through butter. If it had not been for our presence, it would have been.

There was no your presence at the events in Batken in 1999-2000. We decided everything without you. At any moment in the same Moldova, they can really decide. that RF peacekeepers are not needed there. What are you going to do? Express concern again? Start a war? Let me remind you, in 2010:

On June 12, ethnic cleansing against the Uzbek population spread to the Jalal-Abad region, in the city of Jalal-Abad the Kyrgyz-Uzbek University named after I. K. Batyrov. Chairman of the interim government Roza Otunbayeva requested help from Russia... The border with Uzbekistan is open for refugees. Partial mobilization began in Kyrgyzstan, and a state of emergency and a curfew were imposed throughout the Jalal-Abad region.

Russia refused... What opinion, conclusions and attitudes can then be expected in interstate affairs? How will the Russian group in Syria behave in the event of a serious conflict, at a distance from the Russian Federation and very complex logistics solutions for supplying the group? What about the shot down helicopter of the RF Armed Forces on the territory of Armenia? Are the guilty punished? Either you send them to the auls, or you express your concern.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Tank Hard

Boorish. Do you know what the concept means - great-power chauvinism? This is the very moment when some believe that they supposedly (supposedly the key word) have the right to send someone to the aul.

What does this have to do with me? Here you made a mistake, dear.
Someone answered you in a boorish way. I'm not your referee.
I agreed with him only to the extent that in reality the borders of the former Central Asian republics are open. Like a sieve.

Quote: Tank Hard

There was no your presence at the events in Batken in 1999-2000. We decided everything without you.

Maybe we will not gallop through history. I'm not a know-it-all, and I try not to talk about events that I don't really know anything about.
And in Moldova it has long been decided that they do not need our peacekeepers in Transnistria. And what, are we going to get out of there? Never.

Quote: Tank Hard

2010. Russia refused.

The Medvedev period of rule - in my opinion, this is a very peculiar chain of surrendering positions, betrayal of the scanty remnant of our former allies. Many credit Medvedev to 2008. But the "commander-in-chief" pulled it out until the end, when our peacekeepers were already dying. If not for the intervention of the prime minister, who accidentally learned about the events from journalists, after the fact after the destruction of the entire battalion, concern would have been expressed.

Quote: Tank Hard

How will the Russian group in Syria behave in the event of a serious conflict, at a distance from the Russian Federation and very complex logistics solutions for supplying the group?

It will behave with dignity, as it should be for a grouping of a great power. How our logistics works, "partners" have already been convinced more than once, during the deployment of the Aerospace Forces group in Syria, then the S-400 divisions, military police units, and the MTR. It was unexpected for them every time. As, by the way, it was unexpected for them in Georgia too. Remember how the "partners" begged to return them Hummers with special equipment?
PS You don’t know, did you return it?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Sarboz

As, by the way, it was unexpected for them in Georgia too. Remember how the "partners" begged to return them Hummers with special equipment

And Napoleon was defeated, but there was this long... Goodbye.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Tank Hard

And Napoleon was defeated, but there was this long... Goodbye.

Georgia was piled with such a collapse in the troops. "Partners" did not even have time to get scared. And it was not so long ago.
Have a nice one you too.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Tank Hard

Let's just. What are the Russian armed forces doing there? What is the real need of the people of the Russian Federation in their presence there?

Demonstration of the flag, getting up from its knees and "returning Russia to the role of a global player" (a favorite stamp of propagandists). But for schizopatriots there is also a light version - "if not for Putin, ISIS gangs would have already been near the Moscow Ring Road!"

[clerk]

They carry out combat missions set by the legally elected leadership of Russia. But who gave you the right to speak on behalf of the people of Russia is completely incomprehensible. And if something is unclear to you personally, then speak for yourself, without hiding behind the people of the Russian Federation.

[Tank hard]

Quote: clerk

But who gave you the right to speak on behalf of the people of Russia is completely incomprehensible. And if something is unclear to you personally, then speak for yourself, without hiding behind the people of the Russian Federation.

If this is for me, then I am part of this people, I pay taxes and have the right to ask questions. And if I am asking these questions, do not assume that others are not asking them.

[clerk]

Nobody infringes on your right to ask questions. On my own behalf. But not on behalf of the Russian people. The people of the Russian Federation did not authorize you to do this.

[Tank hard]

Quote: clerk

Nobody infringes on your right to ask questions. On my own behalf. But not on behalf of the Russian people. The people of the Russian Federation did not authorize you to do this.

Are you here that you allow me to speak on behalf of the people?

[clerk]

Not me. But Art. 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

[Tank hard]

Quote: clerk

Not me. But Art. 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

Well..:

1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.
2. The people exercise their power directly, as well as through government bodies and local governments.
3. The highest direct expression of the power of the people is a referendum and free elections.
4. No one can appropriate power in the Russian Federation. The seizure of power or the appropriation of power is prosecuted under federal law.

And what are you trying to say here? That I have seized power ?!

[clerk]

That no one authorized you to ask questions on behalf of the people of the Russian Federation

[Tank hard]

Quote: clerk

That no one authorized you to ask questions on behalf of the people of R

You repeat ...

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: bairat

Here it is necessary to roll back for ten years. With the fact that ISIS armed the Americans agree?

Let's just. What are the Russian armed forces doing there? What is the real need of the people of the Russian Federation in their presence there?

Happy Holidays!
Three goals:
* Presence (military) in the Eastern Mediterranean - the gateway to the Black Sea;
* Running-in l / s of the RF Armed Forces - the importance of this was understood after 08.08.2008;
* Sawing out Russian-speaking barmaley away from home.
And the super goal is the return of Russia to the Middle East. The oil-bearing region is important for the economy and the internal situation in the Russian Federation - in terms of oil prices and a hotbed of pseudo-Islamist extremism.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Krasnodar

Happy Holidays!

Albert, Happy Holidays!

Quote: Krasnodar

* Presence (military) in the Eastern Mediterranean - the gateway to the Black Sea;
* Running-in l / s of the RF Armed Forces - the importance of this was understood after 08.08.2008;

Quote: Krasnodar

And the super goal is the return of Russia to the Middle East. The region is oil-rich, important for the economy and the internal situation in the Russian Federation - in terms of oil pricing

In general, this is understandable, but what is the practical benefit for the people of the Russian Federation (prices are only going up)? All these "geopolitical pluses", pluses for certain corporations are clear and transparent. But to me, as an ordinary citizen, so what? Has petrol become cheaper or gas? Not. Are prices falling for goods? Not. Guys are dying for what? For money or an idea? If for an idea, what for? Thank you for your answers, although I didn't ask you a question. And those to whom he asked, instead of an answer, they are sent to the aul, then they are threatened with the constitution. And laughter and tears.

Quote: Krasnodar

* Sawing out Russian-speaking barmaley away from home.

Here I agree in part. I think. that a significant part of them is gaining combat experience and "quietly" before the deadline.

[Krasnodar]

Practical benefit to the people? In addition to increasing the country's defense capability and the appearance of an indirect influence on oil prices, which allow the government to fulfill social obligations (one of the country's main income items), I see no practical benefit.
The guys are dying, nevertheless, among the professional military, the Syrian direction is in demand. Most likely, due to the material component and a plus for career growth.
My opinion, as a citizen and a taxpayer, is that this region is a gadyushnik, I say “not by hearsay”. I would not want my sons to get there in the format in which the RF Armed Forces work in Syria.
And I agree with you that you can't play expensive games in an unhealthy economic situation at home. spend money on geopolitics when there is nothing to eat.
On the other hand, then you will have to fight the pseudo-Islamist monsters in Russia itself, which is the least desirable scenario.
PS As for sending to aul and references to the constitution - well, he ran out of arguments

[Tank hard]

Quote: Krasnodar

I see no practical benefit.
The guys are dying, nevertheless, among the professional military, the Syrian direction is in demand. Most likely, due to the material component and a plus for career growth.
My opinion, as a citizen and a taxpayer, is that this region is a gadyushnik, I say “not by hearsay”. I would not want my sons to get there in the format in which the RF Armed Forces work in Syria.
And I agree with you that you can't play expensive games in an unhealthy economic situation at home. spend money on geopolitics when there is nothing to eat.

Albert completely agrees with this.

[nobody75]

Hinders the construction of a gas pipeline. Rebuilds the Mediterranean squadron.
Sincerely

[Tank hard]

Quote: nobody75

Rebuilds the Mediterranean squadron.

It’s a good thing, of course, it would be easy to build up the rest of the squadrons. This is a difficult question for me, I'm not in the subject ...

Quote: nobody75

Hinders the construction of a gas pipeline.

How will this help the people of the Russian Federation? Will gas prices for domestic consumers be several times lower than now? If so, how? Or maybe it's just the interest of certain corporations, in the form of stuffing their own pockets? Well, why should I?

[nobody75]

How will this help the people of the Russian Federation?

Gasification is already helping. I remember the time when they sat on liquefied gas. Now the south of Russia is being supplied with gas at a good pace.
Gazprom showed a loss for 9 months of last year. If we manage to close the current year with a profit, then it will become a driver of economic recovery
Sincerely

[Tank hard]

Quote: nobody75

Gasification is already helping. I remember the time when they sat on liquefied gas. Now the south of Russia is being supplied with gas at a good pace.
Gazprom showed a loss for 9 months of last year. If we manage to close the current year with a profit, then it will become a driver of economic recovery

The gas price for users is only higher every time. Alas...

[Serg65]

Quote: Tank Hard

Gas price for users is only higher every time

how much higher?

[Serg65]

Hello my friend!

Quote: Tank Hard

just to build up the rest of the squadrons

It's not about the squadron! From time immemorial, the Mediterranean Sea has been considered the heart of Europe, Syria ... next to the main blood artery of Europe, the Suez Canal .... control over this area gives in a long time control over the energy dependence of the same Europe. Well, the sales of gas and oil make up a large part of the capitalization of projects to revive the army, navy, agriculture, mechanical engineering, high-tech production, the construction of new roads, bridges ... and the same maternity capital!

Quote: Tank Hard

How will this help the people of the Russian Federation?

Good question. How will space, fundamental science, and the Northern Sea Route help the people of the Russian Federation? How can we buy an extra kilogram of meat, giving these projects life?

Quote: Tank Hard

Or maybe it's just the interest of certain corporations, in the form of stuffing their own pockets?

Well, my friend, under this article then the Crimea can be entered! Yes, yes ... after all, here, in VO, many consider Crimea to be a great cut of people's money!

[Tank hard]

Salam, land!

Quote: Serg65

It's not about the squadron! From time immemorial, the Mediterranean Sea has been considered the heart of Europe, Syria ... next to the main blood artery of Europe, the Suez Canal .... control over this area gives in a long time control over the energy dependence of the same Europe. Well, the sales of gas and oil make up a large part of the capitalization of projects to revive the army, navy, agriculture, mechanical engineering, high-tech production, the construction of new roads, bridges ... and the same maternity capital!

Quote: Serg65

How can outer space, fundamental science, the Northern Sea Route help the people of the Russian Federation? How can we buy an extra kilogram of meat, giving these projects life?

Quote: Serg65

Well, my friend, under this article then the Crimea can be entered! Yes, yes ... after all, here, in VO, many consider Crimea to be a great cut of people's money!

You hit me straight with your answers! At least on the central television to voice them. And everything is true. But something strains me in these "Syrian affairs". There is a catch ... Well, let's assume that I just do not understand all the advantages of finding the Russian military contingent in the SAR.

[Serg65]

Quote: Tank Hard

There is a catch ...

These are echoes of the old life ..... the seller's smile always raised doubts about his honest intentions!

[Serg65]

Quote: Tank Hard

Let's assume that I simply do not understand all the advantages of finding the Russian military contingent in the SAR.

Yes, I also forgot to mention the importance of Tartus and Khmeimim in control of the Black Sea straits and the eastern Mediterranean, which are very important areas in military strategic importance for Russia.

[bairat]

I disagree. There, five parallel gas pipeline routes could be laid without affecting Syria. Moreover, Assad was removed, who in a good mind would get into this mess of militants with his pipe?

[nobody75]

They climbed with Qatar together
Sincerely

[Alex Justice]

Explain to me what the Russian Federation is doing in Syria?

Same as America. Tries to control resources.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It's time for the Greeks to support Russia at least in words, otherwise they themselves will soon become another Syria.

[Clear]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

It's time for the Greeks to support Russia at least in words, otherwise they themselves will soon become another Syria.

Not free, sir although Greeks

[nobody75]

Happy Holidays!

[Dimide]

If it were not for the mouth of a retired Greek military man, then this version could be taken at "face value"

[Prax1]

Russia will not pull this war, simply by virtue of geography.

[Rose capone]

"Russia will not pull this war, just by virtue of geography" - do not you arrogantly-Saxons of the 77th brigade
a cyber troop of Baba Lisa from Denison's barracks. in the suburbs of Newbury talk and fuck about it.
Shaw you bach there except for pointers?

[Ros 56]

And we're not going to pull it, just slam it and ... that's it.

[TatarinSSSR]

Greeks have never been seen in love with Turks. And vice versa. So everything that the Greeks and Turks say is just an attempt to push Russia with their heads against either the Turks or the Greeks.

[SIT]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: nnm

Well, rather, not a war, but a "test of strength", and in which each side must understand the prospects for future extrapolation of strength to the Middle East

Whose war is this? For whose interests is this war? ...

This is a war of world finance capital to reformat the Middle East, i.e. world gas station. The strategic doctrine of this war is controlled chaos. The goals are set out in Bush Jr.'s keynote speech and then in the Democracy Act, written with the passionate input of the late Senator McCain. As you can see, this controlled chaos is rolling from west to east. Russia, as in all times, among all conquerors, even from the East, even from the West, just along the way. Therefore, if this chaos is not slowed down in Syria now, it will cling to our North Caucasus and spread to Central Asia. Then think about exactly which checkpoint from Novosibirsk to Novorossiysk you will find yourself personally.

[Mavrikiy]

Retired Greek Colonel: There is a new Russian-Turkish war in Syria

And on whose side is the Greek colonel fighting?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Mriya idiot "real colonel" retired Forecasters here before the buoy, sofa analysts, then of course the light, the genius of geopolitics and military strategy, advises exclusively the masters of the planet. True from the third call and most likely not for long.

[Nick Casey]

Greek Colonel wishful thinking.

[Ros 56]

It is better for this Greek to understand their relations with Turkey, and not to poke his long nose into other people's affairs. We can close the sky, unlike Greece, but they can only complain to NATO, the Turks offend us, clowns.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Growlers

The Greeks again want, strongly want to fight Turkey with someone else's hands.

Desirable by hanging noodles on the ears of Russian simpletons The main thing is to give Erdogan a good shot in the nose of the corrupt Greek "PHILOSOPHERS"

[Gennady Fomkin]

The Greeks have gathered a good company - here both France and Egypt. Let's see if the EU will impose sanctions on Turkey. Or drift.)

[Gennady Fomkin]

Enough preparation, it's time to act! Even if alone. They have been preparing for the war for North Cyprus for almost 50 years - this is one of the longest plans for a military operation. Go ahead and don't retreat! We must not shame the memory of the heroes of the Trojan War! And then more and more often they began to say that the Greeks pissed off - cowards. Achilles, Menelaus and Odysseus spin in the graves without stopping. It's a shame.

[Hermit21]

In 2020, Turkey lost at least 60 of its military in Syria, 100 Turkish military were injured. More than a dozen Turkish drones were shot down by air defense systems.

As a result of one strike in Idlib on February 28, about 200 Turks became good. For a year, it could run up to 500

[denk20]

The Greek colonel was wrong. "Axes" did not reach for a very long time. Russian-Turkish War? No matter what the great Turks say there, they cannot put up an army on the ground. It is hardly possible for someone in the world, in Syria, to conquer the skies from the Russians.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The main thing is to pull out the rotten training manual of the 19th century in time, shake off the cobweb and hang it once again to Russian simpletons

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

The main thing is to pull out the rotten training manual of the 19th century in time, shake off the cobweb and hang it once again to Russian simpletons

not Our liberals who have little space in the coffin AGAINST.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

The main thing is to pull out the rotten training manual of the 19th century in time, shake off the cobweb and hang it once again to Russian simpletons

not Our liberals who have little space in the coffin AGAINST.

Interestingly, you are talking to yourself.

[Gennady Fomkin]

May the TURKISH REPUBLIC which is waging a national liberation war. And let the green banner fly over the Parthenon.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

And the snow is in Syria, snow ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

For the Turks, Dagestanis were not human. The peasants said that Russians, non-Muslims ... who fought with them for many years, always treated them much better than these Muslim brothers. Perhaps one of the "sofa experts" will laugh at such prospects, citing comparative characteristics of the armies of Russia and Turkey: they say, we will shower them with hats. But who said that the military phase of the aggression will be carried out by the forces of regiments and divisions, and not the mass of sabotage detachments created from the same recruited Syrian fighters ?! That militants from the "Islamist International" will not flock to the next "gazavat" declared "infidel", as was the case with Dudayev's Chechnya? That through the now, in fact, the land border with Turkey (of which Azerbaijan may de facto become a part), the latest weapons and crowds of instructors from NATO countries will not go through a wide flow? And at the same time, both the West and Turkey, and even Azerbaijan, from whose territory all this will be done, will shrug their hands at all requests from our Foreign Ministry:

And we have absolutely nothing to do with it! ..
By the way, today the Pentagon is intensively training thousands of specialists who speak Russian and specialize precisely in the use of Russian-made weapons. It is clear as day that they are being prepared for tacit participation in the civil wars organized on the territory of Russia. For behind the backs of the Turks who repeatedly fought with the Russians (and the beaten by them), Western countries have always - at least since the XNUMXth century.

[Anar]

Azerbaijan has always been for peace, especially with Russia. Azerbaijan is not Russia's European neighbors who are going against it. Azerbaijan thinks differently, it understands that it can earn a lot precisely on what will be the link between Russia and the whole south, between Russia and the Turkic world, between Russia and the Muslim world.
Azerbaijan needs stable economic growth, not war and devastation on its territory. And if it is a bridge between Russia and the South, then the flow of huge money for a small state is guaranteed.
And by the way, everyone says Aliyev is following Turkey. This is all idiocy. Read the history, for centuries Azerbaijan and Turkey have been side by side. The Ottoman Empire always helped with the army, Azerbaijan always with money, since it was on the silk road. Everything is mutual and tested over the centuries.
Even just watch the video on YouTube, like 5-6 years ago, Sargsyan began to accuse Turkey of all sins. Then Aliyev stood up and shut him up saying - Turkey is not here now, but I am. And he proved that Sargsyan is lying. Then everyone was shocked.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

The main thing is to pull out the rotten training manual of the 19th century in time, shake off the cobweb and hang it once again to Russian simpletons

not Our liberals who have little space in the coffin AGAINST.

Interestingly, you are talking to yourself.

I forgot to ask you

[Wolf]

The Greek people have one interest, and the Greek "elite" rulers have another and they will take the interest of the Zlobrits. So it is necessary to understand the stat of the Greek colonel.
The Greeks, as a people, are in a grave situation, the Evil Briti use them as cannon fodder and are ready to sacrifice them. The Greeks are at NATO, and NATO is preparing them for destruction. In translation, the Greek colonel prays to God that Russia would save the Greek people. Something like this .

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Wolf

The Greek people have one interest, and the Greek "elite" rulers have another

What happens otherwise?

[clerk]

Explain - how the Turks can send Russia in the situation with the Turkish Stream and nuclear power plants? How should this look in practice?

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Labrador

Who does not wet the barmaley on the way to his house,

Equally, your thesis is suitable for responding to Israel's Zionist aggression against the SAR.

But now the "professors" will swoop in and scream about the holcoust, kgovy Cossacks-Hasidim and the torn sheet.

And in the meantime:

“As it became known to EVO-RUS.COM, citing its own source, the Russian Federation has warned about its readiness to shoot down Israeli planes if they resume flights to Syria again.

The fact is that Israel's aggressive behavior on Syrian territory poses a potential threat to the Russian military stationed in Syria. In this regard, Moscow has officially announced that it is ready for tough action to protect its military personnel.

Alexander Lavrentiev, special representative of the Russian president, noted that Russia intends to end Tel Aviv's aggression in the SAR by diplomatic or military means. Lavrentyev stressed that these measures are necessary to counter the escalation of violence in Syria and at the same time expressed the hope that Israel will hear a warning."

https://evo-rus.com/avto/exluzive/rf-ofitsialno-dopustila-vozmozhnost-unichtozheniya-samoletov-izrailya-atakuyushhih-siriyu.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

It looks like the Solovyov-Kiselevsky stuffing.
And the Foreign Ministry will again show an unhealthy, sex concern.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Comrade Kim

The Russian Federation has warned of its readiness to shoot down Israeli planes,

Well, nonsense is golimy ... The Russian Federation did not declare anything of the kind.
Do you believe all yellow sites or selectively?

[Alexander Koshkin]

Surprisingly, the Turkish troops in Syria are on the personal agreements of Putin and Erdogan! De-escalation zones "suddenly" turned into escalation zones.

[bald]

What the hell, Rubik's cube, damn kind - only war, Gandon puts in place.

[outsider]

Quote: Labrador

Whoever does not wet the barmaley on the way to his home is doomed to do it at home with great costs. We have already left Afgan once.

- You should have stayed there until now ?!

[Bio Robot_2]

They are terrorists, and we are their tourists. We will defeat them anyway.

[Vdi73]

The Greeks really want Russia to take their head pain on themselves, deal with your bloc ally yourself.