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Russia is ready to continue negotiations with Turkey on the supply of Su-35 and Su-57 fighters

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Russia is ready to supply Turkey with the latest combat aircraft, including the fifth generation Su-57 fighter. This was reported by the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation of Russia.


Answering a question from journalists about the progress of negotiations on the supply of Su-35 and Su-57 fighters to Turkey, the FSMTC explained that they are ready to continue negotiations with the Turkish side on the supply of the latest aircraft. Turkish experts are familiar with the capabilities of fighters that Russia offers them.

They liked everything. If there is an application for this aircraft (Su-35 - approx.) From the Turkish side, we are ready to continue negotiations on this issue. The same can be said about the Su-57. If our Turkish partners are interested, we are ready to start working on this topic

- quotes "Interfax" the words of the FSMTC representative.

At the same time, it is emphasized that if Russia can deliver the Su-35 in the near future, the situation with the Su-57 is different. Here, the priority is the execution of the state order and the saturation of the fifth generation fighters of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

(...) you need to understand that this is the latest fifth generation fighter. And today, the primary task, this is typical for any state, is the priority execution of the state defense order and satisfaction of the needs of the Russian customer - the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

- added to FSMTC.

Earlier, Rosoboronexport announced its readiness to offer an export version of the Su-57 fighter to strategic partners. According to the head of the state corporation, Alexander Mikheev, preliminary consultations are already underway "with individual countries."
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  1. prior
    prior 22 February 2021 10: 25
    +11
    Only after Turkey officially recognized Crimea as Russian!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 22 February 2021 10: 27
      -6
      The more of our modern military equipment in Turkey, the further it will be from the United States! yes
      1. prior
        prior 22 February 2021 10: 32
        +26
        So can we start to arm Kiev too? Well, to get away from the USA. belay
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 22 February 2021 10: 35
          -8
          Quote: prior
          So can we start to arm Kiev too? Well, to get away from the USA.

          When Erdogan appears in Kiev, not dancing to the tune of the United States, it will be possible to help! Why not?
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 22 February 2021 10: 37
            +28
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            his Erdogan not dancing to the tune of the USA
            Because Erdogan stopped (has he stopped?) Dancing to the tune of the United States, he did not become our friend and ally.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 22 February 2021 10: 42
              -6
              Quote: Greenwood
              Because Erdogan stopped (has he stopped?) Dancing to the tune of the United States, he did not become our friend and ally.

              And this is not what Putin is seeking! The main thing is that Turkey is not fighting against Russia in Syria, and not only. As a temporary strategic partner, Turkey suits Russia! yes
              1. Greenwood
                Greenwood 22 February 2021 10: 46
                +11
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                The main thing is that Turkey does not fight against Russia in Syria
                And it may well fight (or conduct limited military operations), only for the sake of its own ambitions and plans to increase its influence, and regardless of the wishes of the United States.
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                As a temporary strategic partner, Turkey suits Russia!
                I would say "short-term". And for sure, such a partnership does not deserve an arms supply, even if paid.
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 22 February 2021 10: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Greenwood
                  And it may well fight (or conduct limited military operations), only for the sake of its own ambitions and plans to increase its influence, and regardless of the wishes of the United States.

                  But so far Erdogan's ambitions do not go beyond the agreements with Russia!
                  Quote: Greenwood
                  I would say "short-term". And for sure, such a partnership does not deserve an arms supply, even if paid.

                  Are you suggesting not to trade our modern weapons at all? Let the United States fill Turkey with its military equipment? It will be unforgivable for us to miss such a market!
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 22 February 2021 20: 42
                    +3
                    But so far Erdogan's ambitions do not go beyond the agreements with Russia!

                    I think we have the best possible relationship with Turkey.
                    I also think that Davutoglu would have been much worse than Erdogan.
                    Just like that. who gave the order to shoot down our plane.
                    But Erdogan's ambitions certainly go very far. What is in Ukraine, what is in Crimea, what is everywhere. While his hands are short, Thank God. hi
              2. prior
                prior 22 February 2021 10: 55
                0
                So maybe an offer to buy Russian planes, Putin is just helping his friend Erdogan to buy American F-35s? Some kind of joint blackmail of sleepy Joe?
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 22 February 2021 10: 58
                  0
                  Quote: prior
                  There may be an offer to buy Russian planes, is Putin just helping his friend Erdogan buy American F-35s? Some kind of joint blackmail of sleepy Joe?

                  Did our S-400s help Erdogan buy state-owned Patriots?
                  1. prior
                    prior 22 February 2021 11: 00
                    +4
                    S-400s, bought by any country, are defensive weapons.
                    And modern fighters ?! Sorry.
                    1. SRC P-15
                      SRC P-15 22 February 2021 11: 07
                      -2
                      Quote: prior
                      S-400s, bought by any country, are defensive weapons.
                      And modern fighters ?! Sorry.

                      And what fighters will be more dangerous for our country? I think the question is rhetorical.
                      1. prior
                        prior 22 February 2021 11: 08
                        +2
                        So let them arm themselves without our help. drinks
                      2. Stas157
                        Stas157 22 February 2021 13: 37
                        +25
                        Quote: СРЦ П-15
                        And what fighters will be more dangerous for our country? I think the question is rhetorical.

                        Do you think the Su-35 and Su-57 are not dangerous? Why then would the Turks buy them?

                        Quote: SRC P-15
                        When Erdogan appears in Kiev, not dancing to the tune of the United States, it will be possible to help!

                        After Erdogan, another will come and turn his back to us. What then?

                        I would not consider Erdogan a Russian ally either.
                    2. clerk
                      clerk 22 February 2021 11: 23
                      -1
                      ... So let them arm themselves without our help.
                      ... And our defense industry, meanwhile, will suck a paw? Not a great idea. A modern fighter or air defense system is a weapon not for one day, but for 20 years. And all this time it requires maintenance, spare parts and possibly ammunition, which can tie Turkey to Russia quite tightly and for a long time.
                      1. prior
                        prior 22 February 2021 11: 33
                        +4
                        If billions of dollars are stolen for palaces and trillions to be withdrawn abroad, you will have to fight with swords and spears.
                      2. clerk
                        clerk 22 February 2021 11: 56
                        +2
                        And if you don't think, then swords and spears will not save you. laughing
                    3. Overlock
                      Overlock 22 February 2021 13: 36
                      +23
                      Quote: clerk
                      And our defense industry, meanwhile, will suck a paw?

                      Is there no money in the treasury? Have all been transferred to self-financing? What else can we sell?
                    4. clerk
                      clerk 22 February 2021 13: 51
                      -3
                      The question is what - teenage grudges against Turkey or what?
                    5. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 22 February 2021 14: 06
                      +2
                      Quote: clerk
                      The question is what - teenage grudges against Turkey or what?

                      Selling weapons to a country with which they fought a dozen times is utter folly. We have nothing in common with them.
                    6. clerk
                      clerk 22 February 2021 15: 43
                      +4
                      ... Selling weapons to a country with which they fought a dozen times is utter folly. We have nothing in common with them.
                      ... And should these emotions somehow influence military-political interests? I can imagine how flattered you were when you found out that the USSR was selling weapons to Finland, with which they fought 3 times in 25 years laughing
                    7. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 22 February 2021 16: 23
                      -2
                      Quote: clerk
                      I can imagine how flattered you were when you found out that the USSR was selling weapons to Finland, with which they fought 3 times in 25 years

                      Finland was tamed in the 44th. Something I do not see the bombing of the Ottomans.
                    8. clerk
                      clerk 22 February 2021 17: 19
                      +1
                      ... Finland was tamed in the 44th. Something I do not see the bombing of the Ottomans.
                      If you don’t want to see, you don’t see. For example, the bombing of the camp of pro-Turkish militants on 26.10.20/80/XNUMX (about XNUMX killed). Or is it necessary to bomb Istanbul to make sure?
                    9. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 22 February 2021 17: 27
                      -4
                      Quote: clerk
                      Or is it necessary to bomb Istanbul, what would you be convinced?

                      Is your gut thin?
                    10. clerk
                      clerk 22 February 2021 17: 38
                      +3
                      ... Quote: clerk
                      Or is it necessary to bomb Istanbul, what would you be convinced?
                      ////////////: ///
                      Is your gut thin?
                      Well, not everyone has expanded it to the point of turning off the brain. laughing
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                2. New Year day
                  New Year day 22 February 2021 17: 59
                  +21
                  Quote: clerk
                  bombing of the camp of pro-Turkish militants 26.10.20/XNUMX/XNUMX

                  и
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Finland was tamed in the 44th. Something I do not see the bombing of the Ottomans.

                  find at least one difference laughing
                3. clerk
                  clerk 23 February 2021 12: 48
                  0
                  Like a humor joke? Of course, it is not destiny to understand that at each time the scale of the use of military force is different.
      2. Anar
        Anar 23 February 2021 09: 21
        0
        Nicely said and straight to the point. Many have signs of teenage resentment in their statements. It seems that many of those who comment on this as a character - a strong, plump boy with folded arms sits and sulks and mumbles I am the best and where others are before me, I will not be friends with them.
        It must be understood that 95% of the entire world does not like Russia, just as Russia does not like others. Isn't it time to change the psychology and stereotypes in the soul of the common people? Putin is great, he is trying to build relations with the south. Whether you like it or not, the road to the south runs through Turkey. Turkey is doing everything to be friends with Russia. Yes, everyone has their own benefit, their own mentality, their own interests. But we must not forget that these are neighbors. Fortunately, Putin and Erdogan understand this. But this is not enough, all this should be understood by ordinary people, until it is too late, until America and Europe completely burned the bridges ...
  • Nikon OConor
    Nikon OConor 23 February 2021 09: 27
    0
    damn, your option has a place to be.
    I believe that our defense industry should export, because the more money is injected into the industry, the better it works and the more modern the return on it.
    The export version of the SU-57 will not fly against Russia, it cannot simply ... "friend or foe" you understand))
  • New Year day
    New Year day 22 February 2021 11: 01
    +28
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    The main thing is that Turkey is not fighting against Russia in Syria, and not only.

    directly - no, indirectly - yes
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    As a temporary strategic partner, Turkey suits Russia!

    than? By the fact that he climbed into the Transcaucasus? Redistribution of spheres of influence?
  • Humpty
    Humpty 22 February 2021 11: 29
    +8
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    As a temporary strategic partner, Turkey suits Russia!

    Really? Their subversive activities in several regions of Russia, support for terrorists in Syria. Airplane, helicopters, what have you already forgotten about Ambassador Karlov?
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    It will be unforgivable for us to miss such a market!

    How much to offer a hatchet to Raskolnikov?
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    The more of our modern military equipment in Turkey, the further it will be from the United States!

    A fairy tale for preschoolers.
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 22 February 2021 11: 49
    +7
    Quote: SRC P-15
    The main thing is that Turkey is not fighting against Russia in Syria, and not only. ! yes

    Well, he does not fight, he is straightforward to fight, but he "fights" against us there very greyhound and regularly. "Not everyone writes in magazines," you would have had a personal conversation with people from the "sandbox" ... Not with those that are 3 days behind a crust in Khmem with a star chase and in pants with side stripes of adIdas "for suddenly very important business "arrive, and from local resorts, such as the same Deira. And to write about it nizya, we are partners!
  • Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 22 February 2021 12: 24
    -1
    Turkey is not our ally, but not our enemy either.
    If, nevertheless, something happens that comes to a military conflict, then let them be better stuffed with our weapons to which they will not have access to services and spare parts at the right time.
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  • New Year day
    New Year day 22 February 2021 10: 58
    +30
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    When Erdogan appears in Kiev, not dancing to the tune of the United States, it will be possible to help! Why not?

    those. Is Erdogan our ally? Forgot about his antics in Syria and Karabakh?
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 22 February 2021 11: 00
      -7
      Quote: Silvestr
      those. Is Erdogan our ally? Forgot about his antics in Syria and Karabakh?

      I repeat for those who missed it: Turkey is not our ally, but a temporary strategic partner!
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 22 February 2021 11: 09
        +29
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Turkey is not our ally, but a temporary strategic partner!

        I repeat: forgot the downed planes and helicopters during the partnership?
        1. clerk
          clerk 22 February 2021 11: 35
          -4
          Well then, immediately remind about the retaliatory steps in which the Turkish military died.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 22 February 2021 13: 37
            +16
            Quote: clerk
            Well then, immediately remind about the retaliatory steps in which the Turkish military died.

            And about tomatoes too!
            1. clerk
              clerk 22 February 2021 13: 53
              -1
              In fact, there is not a history of a dead ambassador, an airplane and tomatoes, but Syria, taken from under the noses of the Turks.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 22 February 2021 14: 22
                0
                Quote: clerk
                and Syria, taken from under the noses of the Turks.

                For the sixth year we have been poking around like a finger in the anus. Result?
              2. clerk
                clerk 22 February 2021 14: 53
                +4
                ... For the sixth year we have been poking around like a finger in the anus. Result?
                The result is that someone else is not poking around in our anus. And not with a finger. Although it is understandable that the majority here are upset.
              3. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 22 February 2021 16: 20
                -1
                Quote: clerk
                The result is that someone else is not poking around in our anus.

                Is Syria our anus?
              4. clerk
                clerk 22 February 2021 17: 05
                +1
                Syria is a gas pipeline route from Qatar to Europe, which was considered as an alternative to South Stream in the Bulgarian version. Because of what actually all this Syrian kipesh and began. Now they no longer "remember" about this and make round eyes - what type of thing have we forgotten there in this Syria?
              5. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 22 February 2021 17: 08
                -1
                Quote: clerk
                Syria is a gas pipeline route from Qatar to Europe, which was considered as an alternative to South Stream in the Bulgarian version.

                And what's next?
              6. clerk
                clerk 22 February 2021 17: 26
                -1
                And then your association about the anus comes into play - either you are poking around, or they are "picking" you.
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 22 February 2021 18: 46
              +18
              Quote: clerk
              as an alternative to South Stream in the Bulgarian version.

              and as a result? Does the "stream" work?
            3. clerk
              clerk 22 February 2021 18: 57
              +1
              ... Quote: clerk
              as an alternative to South Stream in the Bulgarian version. //////
              and as a result? Does the "stream" work?
              The Turkish stream is working perfectly. Supplier and end users are the same + Turkey.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 22 February 2021 18: 00
        +22
        Quote: clerk
        that someone else is not poking in our anus. And not with a finger.

        Please wait. Erdogan will only gain a foothold in the Caucasus
      3. clerk
        clerk 22 February 2021 19: 00
        +1
        .
        that someone else is not poking in our anus. And not with a finger. //////
        Please wait. Erdogan will only gain a foothold in the Caucasus
        I am similar lamentations regarding foreign and domestic policies. I have been reading Russia for 20 years. You are not up to Alfred Koch.
      4. Alex007
        Alex007 22 February 2021 23: 33
        0
        This Gauleiter Koch perfectly uncovered his cover in Vaterland - for many years now the scum has confessed his sincere love for Russia. I would pick off the Russian thief so there is no such Russophobic pearls giving out as much Gebels in a frying pan, I suppose I was impressed.
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  • New Year day
    New Year day 22 February 2021 17: 57
    +19
    Quote: clerk
    and Syria, taken from under the noses of the Turks.

    where have they taken her? Assad will end and ..... And Assad's problems are over the top
  • clerk
    clerk 22 February 2021 19: 02
    +1
    ... where have they taken her? Assad will end and ..... And Assad's problems are over the top
    Of course. And we are all mortal. But in 2014, Assad was given a maximum of several months.
  • clerk
    clerk 22 February 2021 11: 10
    -3
    Turkey is Russia's partner. So is the US with NATO / EU. But never strategic, but trade and situational.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 11: 16
      +7
      Quote: clerk
      But never strategic, but trade and situational.

      Is it possible to sell advanced weapons to such "partners"?
      1. clerk
        clerk 22 February 2021 11: 28
        -5
        ... Is it possible to sell advanced weapons to such "partners"?
        If the partner does not possess such technologies and is unlikely to master these weapons during the service life, it is possible and necessary. I wrote a little higher, but I will repeat: - the sale of modern complex military equipment creates a long-term bond between the buyer and the seller.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 11: 40
          +4
          Quote: clerk
          If the partner does not possess such technologies and is unlikely to master these weapons during the service life, it is possible and necessary.

          This is not about Turkey. They can take a lot from there for their development. Besides, where is the guarantee that they will not be used against Russia in some kind of regional conflict?
          1. clerk
            clerk 22 February 2021 11: 53
            -2
            Even for their Bayrakyors, they use EMNP Austrian filling and Canadian engines. A SAM and fighters 4+ will be more complicated. As for "use against us", it is possible. But Western weapons can also be used. The plus is that if the weapon is ours, then the process of using it is easier to complicate tactically and by limiting the supply of spare parts and components.
          2. Alex007
            Alex007 22 February 2021 23: 38
            0
            The plus is that if the weapon is ours, then the process of using it is easier to complicate tactically and by limiting the supply of spare parts and components.
            It's a pity - a sober mind is not ours. Reckless daring, courage and fervor of the brain, sadly, cannot be replaced. Which is clearly illustrated by the number of minuses under your post.
          3. clerk
            clerk 23 February 2021 13: 47
            0
            Such a number of reckless and alternatively gifted per unit area cannot be obtained with a random sample. PMSM is a coordinated communal-liberoid-taming work to form a parallel reality in which everything sucks, Putin must leave, and in exchange they will take him out of the test tube (they will be sent from the USA) a new Stalin, at their request he will arrange a new socialist revolution, and in the course of which Russia will perish to the delight of liberoids and tamers. Considering how much time people spend on the Internet, all this is not as funny and harmless as it might seem at first glance.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 22 February 2021 13: 09
      +25
      Quote: clerk
      If the partner does not possess such technologies and is unlikely to master these weapons during the service life, it is possible and necessary.

      Goebbels (1938): "... the raw materials and financial situation of the Reich at the moment is terrible, one might say catastrophic."
      This forced Berlin to actively seek countries capable of becoming suppliers of cheap strategic raw materials.
      On the European continent, only the USSR could become such. And strategic raw materials (petroleum products, lubricating oils, chromium ore, manganese ore, asbestos, platinum, iridium, grain, etc.) flowed to Germany.
      1. clerk
        clerk 22 February 2021 13: 28
        -1
        Could you clarify the meaning of your message in relation to the subject of discussion?
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 22 February 2021 14: 53
        +24
        Quote: clerk
        Could you please clarify the meaning

        The point is simple: you should not trade with a potential enemy that develops his weapons, no matter how much it costs. Stalin also thought to tie Hitler up with "mutually beneficial" trade, but how did it turn out? Using today's terminology, Stalin and Hitler were partners. They are not alive, and this partnership is still going sideways.
      3. clerk
        clerk 22 February 2021 15: 07
        -4
        ... Stalin also thought of tying Hitler up with "mutually beneficial" trade, but how did it turn out?
        These are just your wild fantasies and nothing more. There is no evidence that Stalin counted on such little things.
      4. New Year day
        New Year day 22 February 2021 18: 55
        +22
        Quote: clerk
        There is no evidence that Stalin counted on such little things.

        Did Stalin tell you about this? laughing or is it
        Quote: clerk
        your wild fantasies and nothing more.

        laughing
      5. clerk
        clerk 22 February 2021 19: 52
        0
        ... There is no evidence that Stalin counted on such little things /////////
        Did Stalin tell you about this?
        ... I was told about this by the complete absence of any documentary evidence of your violent fantasies that "Stalin also thought to tie Hitler" with mutually beneficial "trade" (c). The price of 1 battleship for a couple of years.
  • hydroy
    hydroy 22 February 2021 19: 35
    +2
    27 million of our fellow citizens are the result of their partnership! Putin is either dumb or blind, but it looks like this and so, because selling a first-class weapon to a country that is waging a Cold War against us is a shot in the leg!
  • clerk
    clerk 22 February 2021 20: 11
    -2
    Who is fighting the Cold War against us?
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  • Icarus
    Icarus 22 February 2021 19: 39
    0
    Clerk. Turkey is Russia's partner. So is the US with NATO / EU. But never strategic, but trade and situational.

    And the article suggests selling the Su-57E only to strategic partners.
    Earlier, Rosoboronexport announced its readiness to offer an export version of the Su-57 fighter to strategic partners.

    Although, in my opinion, the Su-57E can only be sold to countries that are not potential opponents of Russia in the foreseeable future (India, Latin American countries, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc., located farther from the borders of Russia and having no antagonistic interests in geopolitics). And partners, even "strategic" ones, are an unstable concept.
    1. clerk
      clerk 22 February 2021 20: 15
      0
      As for the partners, you are certainly right, but I see no danger in selling the Su-57 to Turkey. We have no common borders, and such equipment is not needed in Syria, Libya and the Transcaucasus. Shouts "we have always fought with her and she shot down our plane" are hysterics, not arguments.
      1. Icarus
        Icarus 22 February 2021 20: 25
        0
        Nevertheless, Turkey at any moment can become our enemy, and from the northern airfields of Turkey to our airspace is "a stone's throw." Turkey not only shot down our plane and is guilty of the deaths of many of our citizens in modern history, but also claims our territories, including the Crimea, and nurtures the ideas of Pan-Turkism, without even hiding it. Sooner or later we will toughly oppose, since we have opposite geopolitical interests.
        1. clerk
          clerk 23 February 2021 00: 06
          0
          Turkey cannot claim the Russian Crimea for the simple reason that it does not recognize it as Russian. laughing As for the rest of the fears, if Russia weakens and crumbles, then everyone around the perimeter will remember the claims and historical grievances, regardless of whose weapons their armies are armed with. ... It is completely unwise to base a policy on this.
    2. Alex007
      Alex007 22 February 2021 23: 49
      0
      And partners, even "strategic" ones, are an unstable concept.
      As well as geopolitical opponents)))))) Especially taking into account the reliable partners you listed)))) Only Vietnam is still reliable and as long as there are no options, our bureaucrats in the MFA are still charming))))))
      1. Icarus
        Icarus 25 February 2021 20: 46
        0
        And partners, even "strategic" ones, are an unstable concept.
        As well as geopolitical opponents)))))) Especially taking into account the reliable partners you listed)))) Only Vietnam is still reliable and as long as there are no options, our bureaucrats in the MFA are still charming))))))

        So I write that a partner or "strategic partner" is nonsense. The main thing is that the buying country is not a potential adversary. For example, China can become our adversary at any moment, therefore it is a potential adversary, although now it is a partner. But Brazil, for example, in the foreseeable future cannot be our enemy, which could use the Su-57 against us (the flight range is insufficient). It is more difficult with the allies (they are also unreliable), it is better not to sell them dryers, but to place our air bases with them, for which they have to pay (partially). As Japan is doing for the deployment of US bases.
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 22 February 2021 12: 13
    +3
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    not an ally, but a temporary strategic partner!

    Temporary and strategic in this context, the words are antonyms, i.e. mutually exclusive.
  • Stas157
    Stas157 22 February 2021 13: 43
    +25
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    Turkey is not our ally, but temporary strategic partner!

    Why do we need temporary partner? To arm him to the teeth before he turned away?
    1. clerk
      clerk 22 February 2021 14: 09
      -2
      Indeed - why does Russia need a temporary partner Turkey, if Russia has a type of permanent partners - the United States and NATO? laughing
  • mark1
    mark1 22 February 2021 10: 37
    +12
    Yes, then just start with the United States and do not waste time on trifles - "Vanguard" "Peresvet" "Zircon" (well, a couple of other things), so that they will die of happiness.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 22 February 2021 10: 58
    +29
    Quote: prior
    So can we start to arm Kiev too? Well, to get away from the USA.

    good promise! + laughing
  • clerk
    clerk 22 February 2021 11: 37
    -8
    By the way, the idea is not at all as stupid as it might seem at first glance. The problem is that Kiev does not have and has never had the money to purchase modern sophisticated military equipment. And giving away for free will not be appreciated.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 22 February 2021 12: 58
    +3
    And ISIS at the same time.
  • Rubi0
    Rubi0 22 February 2021 17: 13
    +2
    When Ukraine finds money for f 35, why not, you do not care what kind of plane they have f35 or sous 57. For drying, if something at least ammunition and components can be covered, and land them.
  • Alex007
    Alex007 22 February 2021 22: 17
    0
    And why not if complex technique? Due to your age or gaps in education, you are probably not familiar with the principles of work of the systems of identification of friend / foe? Yes, and complex equipment requires constant technical support (for the loot), and you can poke tabs on the example of the probable ones (((((And you with pathos - So can we start to arm Kiev too?))))
  • New Year day
    New Year day 22 February 2021 10: 56
    +32
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    The more of our modern military equipment in Turkey, the further it will be from the United States!

    "A clever heifer sucks two queens," which Erdogan does. Maneuvering, he receives preferences from both sides and arms his army, which is not our ally at all
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 22 February 2021 11: 02
      -4
      Quote: Silvestr
      "A clever heifer sucks two queens," which Erdogan does. Maneuvering, he receives preferences from both sides and arms his army, which is not our ally at all

      A heifer, by definition, cannot be smart! And Erdogan does not suck Russia, but conducts trade with us, not at a loss to us, mind you! yes
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 22 February 2021 11: 10
        +30
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        And Erdogan does not suck Russia, but conducts trade with us, not at a loss to us, mind you!

        so the USSR traded with Germany not at a loss: from January 1941 until the beginning of the aggression of Germany and its satellites against the USSR, the USSR exported German goods and weapons worth 220,9 million Reichsmarks, and the USSR sent raw materials worth 206,1 million Reichsmarks ...
        Loot above all else?
        1. clerk
          clerk 22 February 2021 11: 54
          -3
          Above all was German equipment and technology.
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 22 February 2021 13: 46
        +22
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        And Erdogan does not suck Russia, but conducts trade with us, not at a loss to us, mind you!

        And the fact that the Turkish Stream is already being manipulated, when it is necessary to reduce gas supplies, is it profitable for us? Soon Akkuyu will be completed, he will manipulate her too.
        1. clerk
          clerk 22 February 2021 14: 16
          -3
          ... Is it profitable for us that the Turkish Stream is already being manipulated when it is necessary to cut gas supplies? Soon Akkuyu will be completed, he will manipulate her too
          A hand is a face .... Unless it will threaten Europe to blow up the nuclear power plant, like the Ukrainians do Chernobyl, if Europe does not agree to the next Turkish demands. [ laughing
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          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 23 February 2021 00: 15
            -2
            Good analysis, just a little nuance Turkey does not buy Russian gas.
  • Alex007
    Alex007 22 February 2021 22: 12
    -2
    Judging by the number of minuses, the sane audience is in the minority here. Sadness ((((((
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 10: 28
    +10
    Quote: prior
    Only after Turkey officially recognized Crimea as Russian!

    As for me, Turkey as a "strategic partner" looks very dubious.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 22 February 2021 10: 34
      +4
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      As for me, Turkey as a "strategic partner" looks very dubious.

      More than doubtful.
      This is a situational "partner".
    2. venik
      venik 22 February 2021 10: 35
      -3
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      As for me, Turkey as a "strategic partner" looks very dubious.

      =======
      As for me - too! But it's better bad "strategic partner" than good "strategic enemy" !! bully
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 22 February 2021 10: 41
        +4
        Quote: venik
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        As for me, Turkey as a "strategic partner" looks very dubious.

        =======
        As for me - too! But it's better bad "strategic partner" than good "strategic enemy" !! bully

        And even worse is a strategic enemy with your weapons
        1. venik
          venik 22 February 2021 10: 52
          -2
          Quote: Vol4ara
          And even worse is a strategic enemy with your weapons

          =========
          But this is already a question! You always know your own weapon better than the enemy's weapon, which means that the chances of suppressing it or neutralizing it in any way are much higher!
          It was not for nothing that the Yankees were so alarmed at the sight of the S-400 in Turkey, even the Patriots were offered to them (the Turks) .....
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 22 February 2021 11: 05
          +1
          Quote: Vol4ara
          And even worse is a strategic enemy with your weapons

          It is not superfluous to know thoroughly the capabilities of the enemy's weapon and how to resist it.
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 10: 49
        +10
        Quote: venik
        As for me - too! But a bad "strategic partner" is better than a good "strategic adversary" !!

        There are many sayings on this topic such as: "With such friends and enemies, you do not need".)))))) Turkey will never be an "ally" to us, there are too many contradictions between our countries, Karabakh, for example, has recently shown this. And how many fugitive fighters were there in Turkey after the first and second Chechen campaigns? The Crimean Tatars Turkey has supported, supports and will support. If God forbid, the North Caucasus begins to stagger, then Turkey will be the first to start squealing about the genocide of the Circassian people during the Caucasian wars. We do not have any special nationalism today, but if you read the forums where they write about the Caucasian wars, then there are many shouts about genocide, independence, etc. Who finances these screamers? Turkey has a large Circassian diaspora that has a negative attitude towards everything Russian.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 22 February 2021 11: 07
          +24
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Turkey has a large Circassian diaspora that has a negative attitude towards everything Russian.

          Erdogan is an ethnic Georgian, Aliyev is an ethnic Kurd. But we found an understanding
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 11: 14
            +5
            hi
            Quote: Silvestr
            Erdogan is an ethnic Georgian, Aliyev is an ethnic Kurd. But we found an understanding

            They have common economic interests, and the peoples (Turkish and Azerbaijani) are mentally close. The fact that they pushed Azerbaijan into the arms of Turkey is an unforgivable foreign policy mistake, to say the least.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 22 February 2021 11: 48
              +24
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              pushed Azerbaijan into the arms of Turkey,

              Absolutely right! And Turkey embraced Kurd Aliyev
        2. clerk
          clerk 22 February 2021 11: 17
          -6
          ... Turkey has a large Circassian diaspora that has a negative attitude towards everything Russian.
          Is this a reason not to cooperate with Turkey? PMSM openly hostile to Turkey cannot change the mood in its favor. But trading and sometimes cooperating is quite (except perhaps the nobles who have been bruised on their heads). Because leverage appears.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 11: 22
            +6
            Quote: clerk
            Is this a reason not to cooperate with Turkey?

            But who prevents to cooperate with her then? But do not sell them advanced weapons. Maybe we will sell some of the weapons to Ukraine? She is the same trading partner and the trade turnover with her is not small.
            1. clerk
              clerk 22 February 2021 13: 31
              -1
              You force me to repeat: "By the way, the idea is not at all as stupid as it might seem at first glance. The problem is that Kiev does not have and has never had the money to buy modern sophisticated military equipment. And giving away for free will not be appreciated." (C) In addition, there is one more point - the need for personnel training by Russian instructors.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 22 February 2021 13: 40
                +16
                Quote: clerk
                The problem is that Kiev does not have and has never had the money to purchase modern sophisticated military equipment.

                And the United States sells and Kiev buys
                1. clerk
                  clerk 22 February 2021 13: 57
                  -1
                  The United States sells to itself - the American budget allocates money to help Kiev, and then with this money buys weapons from its military-industrial complex for Kiev. Kiev pays nothing - it's a freebie for him.
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 22 February 2021 13: 13
            +24
            Quote: clerk
            But trading and sometimes cooperating is quite (except perhaps the nobles who have been hurt on their heads). Because leverage appears.

            This was what the Kremlin thought in 1939. Thanks to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and established pre-war economic cooperation with Germany, Moscow gained a gain in time before the start of the war, but also a number of German technologies that were critical for ensuring the USSR's defenses. But the calculation of the Soviet military-political leadership that Germany intends to get more profit from Soviet exports than from a future war with the USSR was not justified. You will sum up the results of the war yourself
            1. clerk
              clerk 22 February 2021 14: 04
              -1
              For the first time I hear "that the calculation of the Soviet military-political leadership that Germany intends to get more profit from Soviet exports than from a future war with the USSR has not been justified" (c). Did you come up with it yourself or someone suggested? Because before this "historical discovery" in any historiography, it was generally accepted that the USSR expected that Germany would get bogged down in a war with the AIF and, according to the experience of the First World War, would try to avoid a war on two fronts.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 22 February 2021 14: 05
                +22
                Quote: clerk
                in any historiography, it was pleasant to believe that the USSR expected that

                "Marxism is not a dogma, but a guide to action"
                No dissent?
                1. clerk
                  clerk 22 February 2021 15: 15
                  -1
                  .
                  "Marxism is not a dogma, but a guide to action"
                  No dissent?
                  there is no thoughtlessness.
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 22 February 2021 18: 57
                    +18
                    Quote: clerk
                    there is no thoughtlessness.

                    are you the ultimate truth?
                    1. clerk
                      clerk 22 February 2021 19: 26
                      +1
                      If we are talking about your fake, "that Germany intends to make more profit from Soviet exports than from a future war with the USSR," then you can think so. This your invention is not confirmed by absolutely nothing.
        3. venik
          venik 22 February 2021 11: 55
          -5
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          If God forbid, the North Caucasus begins to stagger, then Turkey will be the first to start squealing about the genocide of the Circassian people during the Caucasian wars.

          =======
          Here you go! "In the garden there is an elderberry, and in Kiev there is an uncle!"..... request
          Well, WHY are the Circassians here? You would also remember the Armenian genocide .... This is of course the tragedies of entire nations, but the crustaceans are about WHAT? WHAT are we discussing? Arms supplies to Turkey? Is that so? Well, they delivered the S-400 to the Turks .... So what? The result is relations between Turkey and the United States (and not so brilliant in recent years), worsened even more..... A trifle, but nice! Well, they will deliver the Su-35 (we are not talking about the Su-57 yet - they first will go to the videoconferencing!). If the Turks buy the "35th drying": will relations with the states improve? Definitely - NO!
          It's another matter - when supplying such high-tech weapons, one should not forget about the methods and ways of neutralizing them, if God forbid that ...
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 12: 11
            +5
            Quote: venik
            Well, they delivered the S-400 to the Turks .... So what? .....

            Maybe we will put "Zircons" with "Vanguards"? It will be easy to neutralize, won't it? S-400, defensive weapons, and fighters, especially the Su-57, which is not yet in the army, offensive.
            Quote: venik
            Well, WHY are the Circassians here?

            And despite the fact that Turkey is a state that has diametrically opposite interests with Russia, especially in the Caucasus. Remember history, at least a school course.
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 22 February 2021 11: 04
        +24
        Quote: venik
        But a bad "strategic partner" is better than a good "strategic adversary" !!

        It's a question of time. The USSR also sent the last echelon with Soviet grain to Germany 1 hour 15 minutes before the attack.
      4. for
        for 22 February 2021 11: 45
        +6
        Quote: venik
        But a bad "strategic partner" is better than a good "strategic adversary" !!

        Better an outspoken enemy than such a "partner".
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 22 February 2021 10: 49
      +2
      As for me, Turkey as a "strategic partner" looks very dubious
      You think so. I agree with you. But do not forget that the country is ruled by liberal accountants, and their ideology is to make money on everything.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 10: 51
        +6
        hi
        Quote: Gardamir
        You think so. I agree with you. But do not forget that the country is ruled by liberal accountants, and their ideology is to make money on everything.

        They are national traitors, not "liberal accountants".
    4. Stas157
      Stas157 22 February 2021 13: 49
      +20
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      As for me, Turkey as a "strategic partner" looks very dubious.

      hi Here I am about the same. It's just that some here, either Putin (his friendship with Erdogan) want to justify, or they are head over heels in love with the Turks!)))
  • Flooding
    Flooding 22 February 2021 10: 29
    +2
    Quote: prior
    Only after Turkey officially recognized Crimea as Russian!

    On the one hand, the idea is attractive.
    But for the Turks it is tantamount to kneeling.
    That is, unrealizable.
    And politics cannot proceed from the unrealizable. Alas.
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 22 February 2021 10: 33
    0
    And they will demand to recognize Northern Cyprus. Do we need it?
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 February 2021 10: 34
    +1
    Quote: prior
    Only after Turkey officially recognized Crimea as Russian!

    Do we need it? Or recognizing, the Sultan will cease to support the Ruin and covet the Crimea? Will not stop. request So why ... request .
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 22 February 2021 10: 52
    +2
    And why do we need Turkey's recognition? what will it give or change? Who cares about Turkey's opinion on this issue? The Turks do not ask anyone for an opinion and do not ask for recognition on northern Cyprus, but fact is fact.
    1. Antonio_Mariarti
      Antonio_Mariarti 22 February 2021 11: 51
      +1
      Quote: silver_roman
      And why do we need Turkey's recognition? what will it give or change? Who cares about Turkey's opinion on this issue? The Turks do not ask anyone for an opinion and do not ask for recognition on northern Cyprus, but fact is fact.

      Because even our companies in Crimea do not work officially, but only through subsidiaries. Does this tell you something?
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 26 February 2021 15: 43
        0
        speaks of the weakness of the Russian Federation
  • New Year day
    New Year day 22 February 2021 10: 59
    +23
    Quote: prior
    Only after Turkey officially recognized Crimea as Russian!

    you can not worry about this - it will never happen
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 February 2021 11: 16
    +4
    And the United States is not a "strategic partner" as an exception, if it wants to legally buy a pair of three Su57s without lifting the sanctions from Russia, forbidding us to sell dual-use products, but paying "real" money for the Su57 right away? ?? lol
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 February 2021 10: 30
    +3
    Russia is ready to supply Turkey with the latest combat aircraft, including the fifth generation Su-57 fighter. This was reported by the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation of Russia.
    Our motto is "Always!" (12 chairs). "Money in the morning, chairs in the evening" (ibid.)
    1. prior
      prior 22 February 2021 10: 49
      +11
      Somehow we quickly forgot the downed plane, the downed helicopter, the dead Russians, the part of Syria occupied by Turkey, Turkey's support for terrorists, stolen oil, the Christian church of Sofia turned into a mosque, Erdogan's map of southern Russia and the largest number of wars of all countries with which we waged war Russia.
      Has loot really won over everything in Russia ?!
      1. Alex007
        Alex007 23 February 2021 00: 59
        -1
        Quote: prior
        Somehow we quickly forgot the downed plane

        Who has forgotten? Don't generalize. But to pour shit in response and to destroy the connection or a vigorous bomb, the answer is so-so - in the style of ragulis rather. Revenge should stand in the freezer a little - it is more vigorous from that. And yapping like a podzabornaya mongrel is not our calm. I'm all excitedly waiting for Qatar to finally otkrebtku for assault on officials. While on the sly the full panama hat has already been stuffed and the result is obvious - they are waiting, pouring cold sweat and trying to lick it deeper so that the owners do not notice. Anglo-Saxons do not encourage such liberties.
    2. Pilot
      Pilot 22 February 2021 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Our motto is "Always!" (12 chairs). "Money in the morning, chairs in the evening" (ibid.)
      Not the country but the second home of the old security guard. When these orphans, exhausted by narzan, get drunk, they pulled up to endure everything ..
  • Nick rex
    Nick rex 22 February 2021 10: 48
    -8
    Why does Turkey need the flattened Su 27 and its clones? She needs the 5th generation and Erdogan is seeking lightning ll. True, while he is in the chair, he will get ears from a dead donkey, heh.
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 22 February 2021 10: 53
    -1
    Yes, negotiations can continue.
    You can even sell, which is already there. The sale of the old Su35 will definitely not make us worse. And most likely they will not like the deadlines for SS57.
    It only seems to me that they will soon make friends with the Americans and continue to buy F35.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 22 February 2021 10: 55
    +26
    We are ready to arm Turkey, Turkey arms Ukraine, which is not averse to fighting with us. Some devilry! Money obscures your eyes, but you have to see the perspective. Turkey is a fellow traveler and, if the opportunity arises, we will get more than one stab in the back. Or is it appeasing Erdogan, a desire to get his favor? But there is no faith in him and cannot be. Unclear request
    1. Alexey from Perm
      Alexey from Perm 22 February 2021 10: 59
      +9
      this is the endless greed of stupid officials
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 11: 26
      +6
      Quote: Silvestr
      Money obscures your eyes, but you have to see the perspective.

      They see the prospect very well. It's just that these prospects for us and for them are completely different. They have the Maldives in the future, on their own yacht, and we ...
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 22 February 2021 11: 49
        +25
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        It's just that these prospects for us and for them are completely different.

        And then what awaits us?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 12: 28
          +3
          Quote: Silvestr
          And then what awaits us?

          Mayakovsky has a good poem "You!" Is called. I will not bring him here, they have already banned me for him.))))
        2. Gardener91
          Gardener91 22 February 2021 14: 02
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          And then what awaits us?

          "Eh you sleigh, my sleigh!"))
    3. Alex007
      Alex007 22 February 2021 23: 00
      -1
      Dear Silvestr (Sylvester) you in my opinion very much got used to the image of your avatar since you do not want to see the obvious things. And about respected without irony - I am impressed by your patriotism, but unfortunately the world is arranged slightly more complicated than a stool. Although sometimes it's a pity - sometimes you want to collect all the nasty and ugly bad guys and from the maximum as Makarka Nagulny dreamed. But littered - everything is not so obvious by the moon ((((((((((
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 22 February 2021 10: 59
    +5
    This is the essence of capitalism - the main thing is to sell, and it doesn't matter that by doing this you strengthen a potential enemy.
  • Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst 22 February 2021 11: 06
    +2
    First, we carry out the state defense order, then we will carry out the state defense order on the Su-57K for our aircraft carrier, China and India, and when we will earn money. If there is a real confirmed order with a prepayment, our VKS and the Navy may move!
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 22 February 2021 11: 09
    +9
    It's a little strange to sell weapons to a country that has claims to your territory.
    1. Alex007
      Alex007 23 February 2021 00: 15
      -2
      It's a little strange to sell weapons to a country that has claims to your territory.
      Can you give me some examples ????????????
  • raki-uzo
    raki-uzo 22 February 2021 11: 19
    +1
    .Turkey needs technology, not a plane. But technology cannot be transferred without an aircraft. Yesterday it was said in Turkey that the first domestic military aircraft will fly in 2025. Technology is urgently needed ... who can get it? Russia announced its readiness on time.
    1. Alex007
      Alex007 22 February 2021 23: 14
      -1
      Tell me my dear
      raki-uzo how many years will it take for the Turks (even if all technical documentation is transferred and not a machine with the letter E, but even a full-fledged one) to recreate the full cycle of the aircraft, even without 100% localization? And how much for these Turkish denyushki Russia will be able to scold 57 eroplanes during this time ??? I think by that time in Russia (even with brilliant kids at the head of defense companies), the 7th generation will be riveted in hundreds))) So push everything to everyone and more. But it's a pity these are balls - the adversary, unlike you, my dear man, cuts through everything perfectly and spends huge resources on counteracting Russia in promoting the products of the military-industrial complex (especially an ally). But they are all there to see the Vanka stupid and you OGO GO is an analytic genius.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 23 February 2021 00: 17
        -2
        Quote: Alex007
        How many years will it take for the Turks (even if all the technical documentation is transferred and not a machine with the letter E but even a full-fledged one) to recreate the full cycle of the aircraft, even without 100% localization?

        Why would she do it? Together with the British they make their own aircraft of the 5th generation KF-X.
      2. raki-uzo
        raki-uzo 23 February 2021 06: 33
        0

        Bayraktar's story began with this. The development and acquisition of technology has accelerated greatly since that time.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 22 February 2021 11: 26
    +2
    With Turkey, not everything is well defined and reliable, for years to come!
    Erdogan's opponents will come to power and hello, maybe the "hut" will turn its back to us, but in front, we know who!
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 February 2021 11: 26
    +1
    In the United States, these Russians twitched again. They are breaking the whole geopolitics with Erdogan .. The whole problem of the United States, in order to get a "bun" from them, it is necessary to fulfill a lot of their "wants". And here we are with our proposal and with real "Wishlist" for Turkey. Diplomatic work at the highest level. The whole problem of the United States is inconsistency today with the Republicans one thing, and tomorrow with the Democrats another. Only towards us and China the vector does not change. You must ,,,
  • Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 22 February 2021 11: 27
    -7
    Currency is currency. It is necessary to earn money, and not to build a whole out of yourself: 3 can be sold to the Americans, if they immediately pay for the batch.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 22 February 2021 12: 40
      +1
      Yes you turns out to be a naughty .. lol
      1. Pilot
        Pilot 22 February 2021 12: 59
        +1
        And if you look at the situation at all, then the country led by the namesake from the video has long been on the panel, you have to buy imported beads for something ..
    2. Gardener91
      Gardener91 22 February 2021 13: 59
      0
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      you can sell to Americans too

      Haroshy sarcasm in politics is always valuable))
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  • Andre___86
    Andre___86 22 February 2021 11: 33
    +3
    CAPITALISTS, JUST SELL
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 22 February 2021 11: 46
    +1
    It is clear that this is a way to say in the end "I am your NATO plane and the air defense missile system swayed." It is clear that the chaos in this office is worth a lot. But how not to play with the Turks. Not the easiest "partner". With him "to be friends" - turn your head 360 degrees and do not put the weapon on the safety lock.
  • Antonio_Mariarti
    Antonio_Mariarti 22 February 2021 11: 50
    +4
    Of course, I understand that the Russian Federation needs to earn money, the factories that produce weapons need to earn money, but not sell to Turkey.
  • kit88
    kit88 22 February 2021 11: 52
    +11
    The Turk is of course a partner, but the partner is extremely unreliable. It licks its lips to the Crimea, climbs to the Caspian Sea.
    Here he is somehow 50/50 or even 30/70 allies or opponents.
    Can you imagine that China would sell its J-31s to Taiwan? Or does the United States own its F-22 to Iran?
  • iouris
    iouris 22 February 2021 13: 38
    -2
    You will play it out. No matter how it comes to a referendum on joining the New Ottoman Empire. Although ... Crimea will be ours, and the straits, and Constantinople ...
  • tank66
    tank66 22 February 2021 13: 44
    +1
    No, well, if all export flying machines can self-destruct by radio-special signal "cloudless sky over Turkey" - then they sell them. laughing
    And I’m not hinting at ninacho, but Stalin, if it’s, sold Sakhalin oil to the Japs from 40 to 45 until the very declaration of war, and the Americans didn’t notice it, because they themselves were driving aloizych ...
    1. Alex007
      Alex007 23 February 2021 00: 22
      -2
      but Stalin, yes, Sakhalin oil for the Japs from 40 to 45
      It’s not a shame, and here Joseph somehow looked more decent - the states from the axis had a war, and the USSR and the Yaps had peace and one Sakhalin for two (with the total domination of the Yap at sea)
  • Gardener91
    Gardener91 22 February 2021 13: 56
    0
    Oh, the Turks will trample. Enough with them and the S-400. You cannot trust Erdogan. There are also other markets.
  • Dmitry K
    Dmitry K 22 February 2021 14: 08
    +1
    "Super" not enough for us downed plane, diplomat. All this help in the end will turn out sideways for us, at best.
  • VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 22 February 2021 19: 10
    0
    They want Turkey to quarrel with NATO.
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 22 February 2021 19: 42
      0
      They will not quarrel, choosing between Greece and Turkey NATO will choose Turkey, and we stupid people will still arm them with modern aircraft! Lord help the Rossiyushka)
  • hydroy
    hydroy 22 February 2021 19: 30
    0
    The hucksters, a native mother to Turkey, will not be sold like fifth-generation aircraft (
  • hydroy
    hydroy 22 February 2021 19: 44
    +1
    Damn burns up to this day, has money eclipsed the mind! Turkey sways Tatarstan with the Bashkirs about its Turan, draws the Turkish Crimea, sways the North Caucasus, and we are fighters of the fifth generation to them. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    1. Alex007
      Alex007 23 February 2021 00: 28
      -1
      Damn is still burning, has money eclipsed the mind
      Only this way and no other way - the Turks will sell our products, and the hangers of such posters will also be provided with the opportunity to replenish the bins of their homeland with excellent taiga wood for further processing within the country)))))) And for longer and with confiscation.
  • Icarus
    Icarus 22 February 2021 19: 50
    -3
    Quote: Rubi0
    When Ukraine finds money for f 35, why not, you do not care what kind of plane they have f35 or sous 57. For drying, if something at least ammunition and components can be covered, and land them.

    Whoever buys the Su-57E will also condition this on the purchase of a significant stock of spare parts (spare parts) and weapons. For the future. And, of course, he will stock up on it in full. Doesn't it occur to you? Or money, in your opinion, does not smell?
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 February 2021 20: 13
    +1
    It is quite possible to put the Su35S ...... There is no news for the West there ..... And you can arrange the assembly together with the Turks and move it to the Muslims. Like Turkish.
  • Gato
    Gato 22 February 2021 20: 54
    0
    Before starting the discussion, it would be nice to find out what was cut from the export options, and what was added on the sly. But who can tell us ...
  • Red Alert
    Red Alert 22 February 2021 20: 59
    -1
    Quote: clerk
    ... Is it possible to sell advanced weapons to such "partners"?
    If the partner does not possess such technologies and is unlikely to master these weapons during the service life, it is possible and necessary. I wrote a little higher, but I will repeat: - the sale of modern complex military equipment creates a long-term bond between the buyer and the seller.

    China fought against the USSR and Vietnam with Soviet weapons. Egypt supplied dushmans with Soviet weapons through Pakistan
    1. Alex007
      Alex007 23 February 2021 00: 36
      -2
      China fought against the USSR and Vietnam with Soviet weapons. Egypt supplied dushmans with Soviet weapons through Pakistan
      the plane is not a shooter and not a projectile))))) you are confusing God's gift yourself in the know with what. What is better to fight off ezhli Th - from f35 or from 57 with tabs and a known radar trace ???? Although the question is rhetorical - here, only under this article, smart people chewed and digested even for you, but ........................ hi
  • Red Alert
    Red Alert 22 February 2021 21: 00
    0
    Quote: hydroy
    Damn burns up to this day, has money eclipsed the mind! Turkey sways Tatarstan with the Bashkirs about its Turan, draws the Turkish Crimea, sways the North Caucasus, and we are fighters of the fifth generation to them. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Capitalism, happiness, hurt yourself
  • silverura
    silverura 22 February 2021 21: 22
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    Russia is ready to continue negotiations with Turkey on the supply of Su-35 and Su-57 fighters

    The main thing is to put more, because partners! That money can be cut, there will be no extra money.
    What the hell is not joking with ?! wink
    Announce the entire list? As for me, the article is - "duck".
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 23 February 2021 00: 22
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    Quote: Alex007
    Can you give me some examples ????????????

    If it's not difficult, bring.
  • Red Alert
    Red Alert 23 February 2021 09: 38
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    Quote: Alex007
    China fought against the USSR and Vietnam with Soviet weapons. Egypt supplied dushmans with Soviet weapons through Pakistan
    the plane is not a shooter and not a projectile))))) you are confusing God's gift yourself in the know with what. What is better to fight off ezhli Th - from f35 or from 57 with tabs and a known radar trace ???? Although the question is rhetorical - here, only under this article, smart people chewed and digested even for you, but ........................ hi

    Is the MiG 21 small arms?
  • Diviz
    Diviz 24 February 2021 09: 59
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    It is interesting if earthquakes start and bikers will rescue or the Ministry of Emergency Situations will have to be called.