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Finnish armor, Chinese battery: Ukrainian designers announced the creation of "the world's first hybrid armored car"

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Ukrainian designers announced the creation of "the world's first hybrid armored car." We are talking about the Storm armored vehicle presented at the IDEX-2021 arms exhibition in the United Arab Emirates.


The Ukrainian press reports that the development was carried out under the supervision of the candidate of technical sciences Alexander Kuznetsov.

From the report:

Ukrainian developers have created the world's first hybrid multifunctional car. He is able to swim. It runs on an electric motor.

The Ukrainian developer claims that the armored vehicle is capable of speeds up to 140 km / h even on a sandy surface, to overcome a water obstacle at a wave height of up to 1,5 meters. The armored vehicle, called a hybrid, can work in autonomous mode for up to 36 hours.

At the same time, it becomes known that there is not so much Ukrainian on the armored "hybrid" "Storm". For example, armor from Finland, shock absorbers from Australia, electric batteries are made in China, rubber tracks were produced by a company in the UAE, where the product is presented.

At the same time, the designer emphasizes that at the Chinese enterprise "the electric battery was produced according to Ukrainian drawings." And at the same time, the representative of the design group noted that, unfortunately, it was not possible to produce everything necessary for this armored vehicle in Ukraine - they had to enter into wide cooperation with foreign companies.

Aleksandr Kuznetsov:

We were unable to do all this in Kiev. Our idea was perceived as a curiosity. There was no support or finance. The economic and administrative conditions in the Emirates are much better. We quickly found partners who provided us with premises and technical support, while at the same time did not interfere with the process at all.

It is noteworthy that so far a single copy has been created - a prototype. Even if there were no Ukrainian capacities (even premises) for its creation, then what can we say about serial production ...

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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 February 2021 08: 31
    +8
    announced the creation of "the world's first hybrid armored car"
    Not so long ago, we learned that Adam was a Ukrainian and the first civilization appeared thanks to the Ukrainians, and much more. Therefore, if "the first in the world", then of course Ukrainian by default.
    a single copy is created - a prototype
    On this you can put an end to the "first in the world."
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 22 February 2021 09: 11
      +4
      Ukrainian developer claims that the armored vehicle is capable of speeds up to 140 km / h


      Well, very, very similar...

      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 22 February 2021 09: 45
        -10%
        Quote: Insurgent
        Well, very, very similar ...

        You all make mistakes. Oh well. And we, so well-developed, have not been able to make an airplane based on the glorious AN-10 for 2 years already. Everything is somehow not glued, you know. And we have everything, we do not need either Chinese or Martian, but this is not the case, even sing a turnip.
        Before you make fun of someone, you need to look in the mirror - are you good.
        Yes, today the POWER of Ukraine is pursuing a policy that is hostile to us. But, if you paid attention, then the same POWER is pursuing the same policy towards the PEOPLE of Ukraine. So who is our enemy, Ukraine or the Ukrainian government?
        1. Sergey269
          Sergey269 22 February 2021 10: 04
          +7
          But he flew. Regular flights to Yakutia have been organized! At least keep an eye on the news.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 22 February 2021 10: 20
            -4
            Quote: Sergey269
            But he flew. Regular flights to Yakutia have been organized! At least keep an eye on the news.

            The first one to fly? Second, where and how much is produced per year of the one who flew to Yakutia? Or am I really missing something?
            1. Sergey269
              Sergey269 22 February 2021 10: 26
              +4
              The AN-2 flew from the theater of operations, three days ago they showed the first flight in the news. I cannot say how much will be produced per year, since the news is only three days old. The release was launched in Ulan-Ude.
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 22 February 2021 10: 31
                +3
                Quote: Sergey269
                The AN-2 flew from the theater of operations, three days ago they showed the first flight in the news. I cannot say how much will be produced per year, since the news is only three days old. The release was launched in Ulan-Ude.

                Thank. Pleased. Although more than 10 years have passed like ...
                By the way, and whose engine is it?
                1. Sergey269
                  Sergey269 22 February 2021 10: 38
                  +2
                  What are you talking about the engine ... The time will come and the Russian will appear. How do you like the fact that most of the planet Earth's fleet uses Russian titanium?
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 22 February 2021 10: 41
                    +2
                    Quote: Sergey269
                    uses Russian titanium?

                    Titanium is a semi-finished product, and an engine is a finished high-tech product. The difference is clear to you without me.
                    1. Sergey269
                      Sergey269 22 February 2021 10: 58
                      +2
                      I agree. But even during the heyday of the Union, it (the USSR) could not do without Western technologies. Well, after the collapse ... You yourself know everything ... And the "effective" managers inherited by the Russian Federation as a result of the collapse, journalists, managing space programs and much, much more. But the "landing" of these "effective" also lead to positive results. Not as fast as we would like, but - the results are already there.
                    2. Genry
                      Genry 22 February 2021 15: 44
                      +2
                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      the engine is a finished high-tech product. The difference is clear to you without me.

                      An engine is not a final product, but only its component.
                      An airplane is already a finished product, in which a significant part of the cost is the integration of components, i.e. a decision that determines the appearance and characteristics ...
                      Using purchased components (albeit imported), the manufacturer assembles the product, receiving indirect profit from the resale of someone else's goods.
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 22 February 2021 16: 47
                        -1
                        Quote: Genry

                        An engine is not a final product, but only its component.

                        Who can argue with that? You just heard the ringing, but did not understand what it was about. Listen -
                        Quote: Sergey269
                        What are you talking about the engine ... The time will come and the Russian will appear. How do you like the fact that most of the planet Earth's fleet uses Russian titanium?

                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk

                        Titanium is a semi-finished product, and an engine is a finished high-tech product. The difference is clear to you without me.

                        This ended the clarification of the positions of the parties.
                        But here you are out of place ...
                      2. Genry
                        Genry 22 February 2021 17: 10
                        +2
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        But here you are out of place ...

                        Why out of place?
                        You just need to explain that titanium has a very high amount of labor input and a complex production technology. Its high cost is very significant in the cost of products with its use (like an aircraft engine).
                      3. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 22 February 2021 20: 02
                        0
                        Quote: Genry
                        You just need to explain more

                        Are you sure about that?
                        But I will have to explain to you that titanium is supplied in the form of blanks, and not in the form of finished aircraft parts. And the engine is a finished product that does not require any modifications.
                      4. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 23 February 2021 14: 42
                        +2
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        But I’ll have to explain to you that titanium is supplied in the form of blanks, and not in the form of finished aircraft parts.

                        Our titanium is supplied as finished parts. In parallel with this, the development of new alloys for these products is underway.
                        Again, the final products are supplied to both the airbus and the Boeing.
                      5. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 23 February 2021 15: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        Our titanium is supplied as finished parts.

                        Sorry for the inaccurate information:
                        "..." VSMPO for the most part sells not just titanium, but titanium forgings, stampings and rolled products. These products are extremely difficult to manufacture. Refusal to supply Boeing and Airbus will lead to downtime of these production facilities, there will simply be nothing to load them with. " VSMPO has a 30% share of the global titanium market, says Aton analyst Andrey Lobazov. The main competitors here are American Timet and Arconic, as well as a number of blacksmiths. VSMPO has a share of about 25% on the industrial market, competing with Japanese Toho Titanium and Osaka Titanium .....
                        ..... VSMPO-Avisma is one of the largest titanium producers in the world and the only one in Russia. The corporation annually produces about 40 tons of metal, 000% of its shipment is exported, including to the American market. In the United States, among the counterparties of the Boeing corporation (70% of the titanium used is of Russian origin) and the aircraft engine manufacturer Pratt & Whitney. In Europe, Russian titanium provides 35% of the needs of the French Airbus, and is supplied, among others, by the British Rolls-Royce and the French Snecma (aircraft engine manufacturers). In addition, the Russian-American joint venture Ural Boeing Manufacturing (located in the Sverdlovsk region) produces titanium billets and parts for Boeing and Airbus ..... "
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                      6. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 23 February 2021 19: 49
                        -1
                        Quote: Bad_gr

                        "..." VSMPO for the most part sells not just titanium, but titanium forgings, stampings and rolled products.

                        This is a semi-finished product. tongue
                      7. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 24 February 2021 01: 13
                        0
                        Let me remind you why the titanium theme was touched upon:
                        Quote: Genry
                        titanium has a very high volume of labor input and a complex production technology. Its high cost is very significant in the cost of products with its use.

                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        titanium is supplied as billets, not as finished aircraft parts. And the engine is a finished product that does not require any modifications.

                        Judging by the information from the link, the titanium products that we supply to the world market can still be provided by enterprises, which can be counted with the fingers of one hand. That is, it is not a fact that more intellectual labor is invested in the production of an engine than in the production of titanium products that we trade.
                      8. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 24 February 2021 10: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        fingers of one hand. That is, it is not a fact that more intellectual labor is invested in the production of an engine than in the production of titanium products that we trade.

                        Yes, even 10 times. The price of the product not only depends on this. It also depends on the cost. From the number of "redistributions". The greater the number of "redistributions" in the final product, the more expensive it is.
                      9. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 24 February 2021 12: 06
                        0
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        The price of the product not only depends on this.
                        Somewhere you are not there. What does the price have to do with it? You said:
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Titanium is a semi-finished product, and an engine is a finished high-tech product. The difference is clear to you without me.
                        To which there was a link that we make finished products from titanium as well (if you read the quote carefully, you will notice the line "produces titanium blanks and parts for Boeing and Airbus ...."). For example, titanium landing gear struts of the Airbus A380
                        Final product.
                        They bought landing gear from us, we have an engine from them - what is the difference in approach?
                      10. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 24 February 2021 14: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        Final product.

                        There is more than one such "end product" in the engine. For example, a camshaft. Or crankshaft complete with connecting rods. Isn't it a final product?
          2. Genry
            Genry 23 February 2021 16: 06
            0
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            the engine is a finished product that does not require any modifications.

            What useful work can an engine do without anything? Can transport, produce electricity, ...?
            He is just an intermediate component.
          3. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 24 February 2021 10: 30
            0
            Quote: Genry
            What useful work can an engine do without anything?

            Replace the word "engine" in your question with the words "titanium part"
            Dispute about nothing!
          4. Genry
            Genry 24 February 2021 14: 24
            0
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Replace the word "engine" in your question with the words "titanium part"
            Dispute about nothing!

            Well, now you understand, and then you stated:
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Titanium is a semi-finished product, and an engine is a finished high-tech product.
          5. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 24 February 2021 15: 14
            0
            Quote: Genry
            Well, now you understand, and then you stated:

            But you didn’t understand anything. The engine can be put on an airplane, a helicopter, even a dump truck. And where can you put a "high-tech titanium part? Except ...
          6. Genry
            Genry 24 February 2021 18: 14
            0
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            The engine can be put on an airplane, a helicopter, even a dump truck.

            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Where can you put the "high-tech titanium part?"

            Placed only where it is used. Anyone in any and everywhere will not ride.
          7. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 24 February 2021 21: 33
            0
            Quote: Genry

            Placed only where it is used. Anyone in any and everywhere will not ride.

            Do not fool yourself or people. You perfectly understood what I mean. I put the engine of the K-750 motorcycle on a homemade tractor, on a snowmobile. And successfully worked on it. True, the gearboxes were different. But this is not an engine as such. And your titanium, high-tech and highly intelligent part cannot be put anywhere except for its purely purpose.
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 22 February 2021 18: 39
    0
    The West also distorted a lot in the USSR. Example-56 countries of the world produce AK, and only 8 (eight) countries bought the license. The LED-invention of the USSR (Losev glow), equipment for the protection of documents in the General Staff of the Red Army - paralyzers. In besieged Leningrad, fluorescent paints for the Navy were invented. Germany in the Great Patriotic War did not manage to repeat it. RS-missiles Katyusha. In 1938 in the USSR a machine for cutting rifling in the barrels of firearms, both small arms and artillery, would have been invented. He has increased labor productivity tenfold. In the United States, they managed to repeat it only in 1968 (one thousand nine hundred and sixty-eight). One such machine for 76mm barrels was sold to Sweden in 1998.
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  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 February 2021 10: 35
    +2
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Not so long ago we learned that Adam was a Ukrainian and the first civilization appeared thanks to the Ukrainians, and much more.
    Historian M. Hrushevsky (the first ruler of the UPR) created the work "History of Ukraine-Rus" and a simplified version of the "Illustrated history of Ukraine" there is a map "Our land about 500 years BC", on it Hrushevsky put the right side of the Dnieper, where there is a tribe "androphages". And he wrote "One might think that the tribes of nerves and androphages mentioned by Herodotus are Slavic tribes ...."
    We all understand who these Slavic tribes are. Only one thing, translated from Homer's Greek, is cannibals. This is a mockery on the part of Grushevsky, or his fiction, but then what to expect from modern "androphages."
    1. Yuri Gulov
      Yuri Gulov 22 February 2021 12: 19
      +3
      Grushevsky is fiction itself. He wrote his "historical work" with money from the Habsburgs. According to the principle "money does not smell"!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 22 February 2021 12: 29
        0
        Quote: Yuri Gulov
        Grushevsky is fiction itself. He wrote his "historical work" with money from the Habsburgs. According to the principle "money does not smell"!

        Everything is so, although later he was nevertheless warmed up in the Union.
      2. boris epstein
        boris epstein 22 February 2021 18: 43
        0
        He wrote his "work" after returning from emigration at Kharkov University. Well, there was then a period of Ukrainianization in the USSR. But he was quickly stopped. Kosior, Postyshev and Skripnik were engaged in Ukrainization.
  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 22 February 2021 08: 32
    +5
    English uniform, French shoulder straps, Japanese tobacco, ruler clown Omsk Kiev.
    1. Destiny
      Destiny 22 February 2021 08: 53
      +8
      A similar association arose when I read that
      armor from Finland, shock absorbers from Australia, electric batteries made in China, rubber tracks made by a company in the UAE
    2. Sergey269
      Sergey269 22 February 2021 10: 08
      +1
      And suspension from "Sherman"
    3. Peter is not the first
      Peter is not the first 22 February 2021 20: 59
      0
      But the design is Ukrainian and at the same time the car looks gorgeous. She needs to exhibit not at an arms exhibition, but at art meetings of designers. They will appreciate the headlights with variable lighting and LED taillights, a rear spoiler. In general, the car is not for war, but for exhibitions.
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 22 February 2021 08: 33
    +1
    And where is the weaponry, or is it so, to skate behind the BURNER?)
    1. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 22 February 2021 08: 40
      +1
      Yes, if they would skate. And then in fact the headlights can only blink and can, but how about skating there is still unknown. How the hodovka from the six-ton ​​vickers will behave there.
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 22 February 2021 08: 37
    +6
    It's this thing like ... sheathed with plastic only)
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 22 February 2021 08: 38
    0
    And what do they speak Russian in Abu Dhabi?))
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 22 February 2021 08: 40
      +4
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      And what do they speak Russian in Abu Dhabi?))

      And who will understand them there on the move?
      Nagli or Russian. Well, or Arabic.
      Between themselves in any Russian.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 22 February 2021 10: 02
        -13%
        Yes, yes - funny. It seems everyone has forgotten about the Chinese "black box" microcircuits of our Su .... And this is just one thing that "surfaced" ... And if you "dig"? And so yes, let's still laugh about how all "tamnaukraine" is "funny".
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 23 February 2021 15: 44
          0
          Quote: Snail N9
          And so yes, let's still laugh about how all "tamnaukraine" is "funny".
          Well, they won't laugh if they once again present themselves in this form. Type in the search for "APCs with hybrid power plants" - and it will immediately become clear that Ukraine, with its demonstration model (which only blinks with bulbs in the video) is not the first in this topic. For example, our "Krymsk" rode around the ranges back in 2013.
          They also exist in Germany. IN USA. in general there is talk of adopting them in service.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 February 2021 10: 37
      -1
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      And what do they speak Russian in Abu Dhabi?))

      Of course on the "mov".
  • Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev 22 February 2021 08: 41
    +3
    And the design is good. Futuristic enough. Probably it will work on the Moon and Mars)
    1. aleks neym_2
      aleks neym_2 22 February 2021 08: 53
      +3
      I myself would not refuse such a toy: hunting, fishing, shashlik ... and I liked the appearance - it is quite peaceful.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 February 2021 10: 39
      +2
      Quote: Konstantin Gogolev
      And the design is good. Futuristic enough. Probably it will work on the Moon and Mars)

      They will put in the museum of the introduction of Ukraine.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 22 February 2021 08: 41
    +4
    "Armor from Finland, shock absorbers from Australia, electric batteries are made in China, rubber tracks were produced by a company in the UAE ...", Russian speech. laughing And Where is Ukraine here? laughing
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 22 February 2021 08: 48
      +7
      Quote: Captive
      "Armor from Finland, shock absorbers from Australia, electric batteries are made in China, rubber tracks were produced by a company in the UAE ...", Russian speech. And Where is Ukraine here?

      And Ukraine "ponad truncated"! In this case, I just sat down on top and pretended to be the cherry on the cake!
  • aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 22 February 2021 08: 42
    +2
    Collected devil-he-knows where in someone else's area, for someone else's money ... and Ukraine has to do with ??? if she didn't find premises and finances ... (all finances, it seems to me, were blown away on the banks of Pont E ...)
    1. Old tanker
      Old tanker 22 February 2021 09: 16
      +6
      We also built the "Tiger" for the Arabs and with Arab money. Truth at home. And thus they saved production. That made it possible to start deliveries to our army, when the money for this appeared.
      The same thing happened with the "Shell". Although initially it was developed for itself, as a replacement for "Tunguska". But there was no money. And here the Arabs helped.
      2000 April - a contract was signed for the development and supply of 50 units of ZRPK 96K6 "Pantsir-S1" and up to 1000 missiles for them. The contract was signed by the head of the KBP Arkady Shipunov. The amount of the contract, taking into account partial financing of the development, 734 million USD

      The main thing is not whose money was made, but whose design development and technology. Which are thus saved at the expense of foreign funding.
      So the Ukrainians are practically following our path. But now it will turn out as well as ours, I have big doubts.
      1. aleks neym_2
        aleks neym_2 22 February 2021 09: 55
        +3
        [quote] [/ quote] The idea, in general, is correct, but in this situation I am claiming the Nobel for my discovery: almost the whole world flies on Ukrainian helicopters! Rationale: Ukrainian Igor Sikorsky found production facilities and sponsors outside his homeland, as a result of which Sikorsky's helicopters became known to the whole world! It is a pity that the money from them also remains in the states, but I think the kuleba will quickly react to this and make a request to the UN.
        1. Old tanker
          Old tanker 22 February 2021 10: 18
          +1
          The chief designer with his ideas can be of any nationality. And design development is already a process, and from a drawing to an experimental sample for testing and fine-tuning. And this is already a team and specialists of various levels. Well, and most importantly, in which country this team positions itself.
  • sabakina
    sabakina 22 February 2021 08: 46
    +2
    The Ukrainian developer claims that the armored vehicle is capable of speeds up to 140 km / h even on a sandy surface, to overcome a water barrier with a wave height of up to 1,5 meters.

    Performance characteristics are somehow outrageous ...
    Vasil Ivanovich, can he be under water?
    No Petka, he can't. There is nothing to breathe.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 February 2021 08: 54
    +3
    On tracks, but under 140 km / h:
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 22 February 2021 09: 02
      +1
      Yuri, what do you want? With them, Icarus also flew to the Sun, for he was a Ukrainian. wink
      1. Gato
        Gato 22 February 2021 09: 09
        +1
        Yes, and flew on a quiet Ukrainian night.
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 22 February 2021 09: 38
        +1
        I know only one flying Ukrainian, this is the blacksmith Vakula who is flying on the devil, but to St. Petersburg, for the bride's skullcaps. negative lol
        1. Gato
          Gato 22 February 2021 10: 04
          +1
          It was the NKVD agent Gogol who messed things up, presenting the epic mission as a banal shuttle trip to communist Leningrad for counterfeit branded shoes.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 22 February 2021 09: 28
      +2
      Quote: Ros 56
      On tracks, but under 140 km / h

      Link: https://youtu.be/SW2HVNQIUM4, the video itself is above, I will not repeat myself.

      In general, there is no fundamental difference in the movers.
      True, one copy is built on the basis of a light "Bentley", and the Ukropsky one assumes armor, which of course raises doubts about the ability to achieve this "wonder weapon"such speeds in practice. yes
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 22 February 2021 09: 49
        +2
        Quote: Insurgent
        ukropsky assumes armor, which of course raises doubts about the ability of this "miracle weapon" to achieve such speeds in practice.

        So maybe this is just for asphalt? See how it looks beautiful on the rug! That means to develop such speed along the carpet tracks.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 22 February 2021 09: 53
          +5
          Quote: Egoza

          So maybe this is just for asphalt? See how it looks beautiful on the rug! That means to develop such speed along the carpet tracks.


          Go for Oscars yes

      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 22 February 2021 13: 31
        0
        Try to calculate such a device theoretically for movement even on a dirt road, I am silent about the intersection. Good luck. wassat hi
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 22 February 2021 15: 19
          +2
          Quote: Ros 56
          Try to calculate such a device theoretically for movement even on a dirt road, I am silent about the intersection. Good luck.

          Are you suggesting that I count? Why should I? request belay
  • kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i 22 February 2021 08: 57
    +2
    Good day to all.
    The Ukrainians seem to be inventing the catapult - when other countries have already switched to firearms.
    since 2000, "RIPSAW" has been produced in the USA - only on diesel and optional armor,
    Ukrainians even licked the general view from the Americans.
  • Momotomba
    Momotomba 22 February 2021 09: 00
    0
    In addition to the DPL, hybrid transport is not particularly needed at all ... And then there is a mixture of French and Nizhny Novgorod
  • Old tanker
    Old tanker 22 February 2021 09: 01
    +1
    140 km / h on tracks ?! Even rubber ones. Hard to believe.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 February 2021 09: 02
    0
    On the other hand, the vukers are working hard on a new generation of the population - so that they are born with a saucepan on their heads, and always hate Russia. ..
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 February 2021 10: 47
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      to be born with a saucepan on their heads, and always hate Russia. ..

      Or maybe a saucepan instead of a head.
  • Gato
    Gato 22 February 2021 09: 08
    +3
    Hmm .. So, if raguli in Poland grow and harvest strawberries, are they Ukrainian strawberries?
  • nnm
    nnm 22 February 2021 09: 15
    +1
    And how do they want to organize recharging of this miracle in combat conditions?
    And after how many hours / minutes the chassis will fly from a speed of 140 km on a caterpillar track ...
    And what is the purpose of this pepelatsa? It is somehow doubtful that even the squad will be able to accommodate, what kind of weapons ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 22 February 2021 09: 52
      +3
      Quote: nnm
      And how do they want to organize recharging of this miracle in combat conditions?
      And after how many hours / minutes the chassis will fly from a speed of 140 km on a caterpillar track ...
      And what is the purpose of this pepelatsa? It is somehow doubtful that even the squad will be able to accommodate, what kind of weapons ...

      Tell you everything! They themselves do not know the answers. The main thing is that they "created"
  • K-50
    K-50 22 February 2021 09: 20
    +2
    The machine is nice, but the goslings are too narrow. For low-bearing soils, definitely not ice.
    On the other hand, the scope of this device is not defined, but they are designed for tasks, not for beauty.
  • nnm
    nnm 22 February 2021 09: 36
    0
    can work offline up to 36 hours

    - the original article says ".. from 18 to 36 ...". So that's still a scatter.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 22 February 2021 09: 37
    +2
    On April 1, the joke came up b.
    And so, the "Azov" was modernized, it seems.
  • pytar
    pytar 22 February 2021 10: 00
    +4
    Looks futuristic. Interesting concept! The bottom seems to be anti-mine V-shaped + better buoyancy. Multifaceted complex shape of the body. Is it the outer armor itself or some kind of plastic overhang that reduces radar signature?





    "Hybrid" - Electric engine / batteries / + DVG. A very promising direction, although it is doubtful whether it can be implemented not only as a concept, but in a real combat vehicle.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 22 February 2021 11: 01
      +1
      Quote: pytar
      Looks futuristic.

      Yes, the view is interesting, the most important thing is to test it in full as the market demands. Otherwise, the reputation, and it costs money and time, and not small. Since the model itself is clearly aimed at export.))
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 23 February 2021 01: 26
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      Quote: pytar
      Looks futuristic

      and this is so far the main and only advantage that is beyond doubt


      the main emphasis is on futurism
      and what kind of booking can we talk about with such irrational planes?
      1. pytar
        pytar 23 February 2021 10: 42
        +2
        Quote: Flood
        the main emphasis is placed on futurism. and what kind of booking can we talk about with such irrational planes?

        External surfaces and armor may not match in shape. The multifaceted / scattering / shape of the enclosure made of radio-absorbing material covers the armored body, which is typically made of simpler geometric surfaces. So it is in Armata, why not with the Ukrainian hybrid?
        And the futuristic look is a very useful option for the market! You have to sell, the view matters ... bully
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 23 February 2021 10: 48
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          you compared incomparable
          to Armat, your words are true only in relation to the tower.
          which is uninhabited and has a small reserve volume.
          here, according to your assumption, the case is closed from above. can you imagine how much volume remains in the end inside? half.
          to put it mildly, a very controversial assumption.
          and why do this supposedly stealth surface?
          in armata, these are essentially technological niches in which equipment is hidden.
          and here?
          1. pytar
            pytar 23 February 2021 14: 18
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            you compared the incomparable. to Armat, your words are true only in relation to the tower.
            which is uninhabited and has a small reserve volume.

            Compared, only to the part of using stealth technologies. Obviously, they are present on the Armata. Towers, because the tower stands high. It is not excluded that the hulls in the future will be glued with some kind of coating that reduces the radar. and thermal signature.
            here, according to your assumption, the case is closed from above. can you imagine how much volume remains in the end inside? half.

            Unlikely. The "restoration" of the rigid body, even visually, shows insignificant "empty" volumes. I beg your pardon, I didn’t draw too much, but it’s visible anyway. hi

            and why do this supposedly stealth surface? for armata, these are essentially technological niches in which equipment is hidden. but here?

            Stealth in all EMP spectra is one of the most promising areas for reducing the visibility of combat vehicles and aircraft. Stealth - technology is used even on ships.
            I remembered a few concepts ...
            Belarusian concept BMP


            Polish concept - tank RT


            One of the promising modifications of the Leo 2 (V7) also has stealth elements. In real life, there are a great many of them, and this topic is being intensively worked out.

            Even in my country, back in the mid-80s, a light stealth tank was being developed. In truth, the level of technology was then much lower, and other factors did not allow the project to be implemented, but still ...
            https://topwar.ru/143744-bolgarskiy-sprut-legkiy-plavayuschiy-tank-kotoryy-ubila-demokratiya.html
  • minus
    minus 22 February 2021 10: 08
    +3
    * develop a speed of up to 140 km / h even on a sandy surface, * yes they made the fastest all-terrain vehicle in the world or what? laughing It would be more modest to indicate the speed repeat
  • rotfuks
    rotfuks 22 February 2021 10: 41
    +2
    The problem of all hybrid and “green tech” was highlighted last week in the state of Texas in the United States. All these green and hybrid technologies work and delight ecologists in good weather. But if suddenly there is a frost of minus 15 Celsius, then the spinners stop spinning, solar panels do not produce electricity and human dwellings freeze through and through. And people are saved by moving to a non-ecological car with a gasoline engine for warming, forgetting that there is a wonderful ecological electric car of a well-known manufacturer in the garage.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 23 February 2021 11: 20
      +2
      Alaska does not freeze every winter. Their power plants operate in any frost.
      Texas TPPs didn't count on this extreme in these hot areas.
      frost. Now you have to add additives to the TPP in Texas, typical for Canada
      and Alaska.

      With all the problems you listed, gasoline engines on cars will soon
      disappear. This is the decision of the largest car manufacturers.
      There may be small manufacturers of traditional cars with GVA in
      "arctic performance". You will have to buy from them at a special price.
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 22 February 2021 11: 01
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    the author, look at what components and where they put on Russian equipment, and then you will be jerky)))
    1. Yaro Polk
      Yaro Polk 22 February 2021 11: 07
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      proofs, links ..
      1. Alexey from Perm
        Alexey from Perm 22 February 2021 14: 32
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        навскидку - https://www.dw.com/ru/%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%BE-%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%BD%D1%8B-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D0%B2%D0%BF%D0%BA-%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%83%D1%8E%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%B5/a-18853078
  • Lynnot
    Lynnot 22 February 2021 11: 24
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    The Ukrainian developer claims that the armored vehicle is capable of speeds up to 140 km / h even on a sandy surface ...

    An enticement for the sheikhs ... And to demonstrate at the test site? There is a lot of sand ... Or is it, like, a concept for finding money?
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 22 February 2021 12: 58
    -2
    What can you say from the video ... The lights are blinking, the doctor is happy. Nothing new at all. Skakuas blinded a toy with aliexpress and announced their development. And let them turn to Texas with electric motors laughing ... They will explain everything "dribnesenko" there.
  • bogart047
    bogart047 22 February 2021 14: 23
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    looks great anyway. At least the design is of high quality. I would take this myself because of the appearance
  • Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 22 February 2021 16: 09
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    why the windows are not tinted ?? !!
  • APASUS
    APASUS 22 February 2021 20: 34
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    Now the UAE will buy the idea together with the designers and build it, but in Ukraine it will not go beyond assurances
  • Gregory Charnota
    Gregory Charnota 22 February 2021 20: 36
    -1
    current Ukrainian designers are akin to British scientists, except for a smile))
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  • Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 23 February 2021 15: 34
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    ..... Ukrainian designers announced the creation of "the world's first hybrid armored car"

    Video from 2013. BTR-90 with a hybrid installation ("Krymsk")
  • nivander
    nivander 25 February 2021 09: 51
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    and he also flies
  • rus-5819
    rus-5819 27 February 2021 18: 05
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    at a Chinese enterprise "an electric battery was produced according to Ukrainian drawings."

    And they dug the sea along them and built pyramids ...
    unfortunately, in Ukraine, it was not possible to produce everything necessary for this armored vehicle -
    I had to enter into broad cooperation with foreign companies.

    "Russian shoulder strap, English overcoat tobacco Japanese ruler ... shitty"
    We have already passed a hundred years ago.
    It is noteworthy that so far a single copy has been created - a prototype.

    A woeful cry: "Well, take me !! .... Naughty !!!