The timing of deliveries of the new Kalashnikov PPK-20 submachine gun has been announced

February 22 2021

Deliveries of the newest 20mm PPK-9 submachine gun will begin in 2021. This was announced by the general director of Kalashnikov Dmitry Tarasov.

According to Tarasov, the submachine gun passed state tests in 2020, but there have been no supplies yet. Weapon intended for units of law enforcement agencies.

PPK-20 deliveries have not yet been made, it is planned in 2021

- TASS quotes the words of Tarasov.

The completion of state tests of a new submachine gun developed as part of the Vityaz-MO development work (ROC) was reported in the 20th of July last year. The submachine gun was created on the basis of the Vityaz-SN PP, which has been serially produced since 2005, taking into account the remarks and shortcomings revealed during its operation.

The official name of the weapon: "9 mm Kalashnikov submachine gun PPK-20".

As the developers explained, in the course of work on the new weapon, the ergonomics of the PP and the equipment attached to it were improved, a device for low-noise shooting was introduced into the composition. The reliability of the new PP has been significantly improved compared to the base Vityaz-SN.

Performance characteristics of the submachine gun: PPK-20 length - 640-700 mm, barrel length - 233 mm. Weight, according to the video - 3,65 kg (possibly equipped with a silencer). The magazine is designed for 30 rounds of 9X19 LUGER caliber.

The PPK-20 includes: a muffler, a belt with one-point and two-point fastening, a special bag for carrying magazines, related equipment and cleaning agents.

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Al_lexx 22 February 2021 07: 04
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Well, I don’t know, I don’t know the AK scheme, for a pistol cartridge ...
With all my sympathy for AK, IMHO some kind of nonsense turns out. As if we do not have other, more elegant solutions for such a patron (that thread like "Cedar", etc.). The AK's strong point is its high reliability in difficult conditions, as applied specifically to the line infantry. Why the hell is it needed to solve special problems, and even with the weight of a "full-size" assault rifle? I do not understand.
1. mat-vey 22 February 2021 07: 27
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  Well, I don’t know, I don’t know the AK scheme, for a pistol cartridge ...
  
  "The submachine gun has been created on the basis of the Vityaz-SN PP, which has been serially produced since 2005, taking into account the remarks and shortcomings identified during its operation."
  Automation is based on the use of recoil energy of the free shutter. There is no gas outlet system, shooting is carried out from a closed bolt.
  It's bad that you "don't know" ...
  1. Simargl 22 February 2021 08: 34
    
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    Automation is based on the use of recoil energy of the free shutter. There is no gas outlet system, shooting is carried out from a closed bolt.
    What's the point of sculpting a PP weighing 3,5 kg ?! A full-size AK weighs the same.
    Free shutter? Well, probably to put the spring on and shake harder.
    With the shutter closed? Yes, from the open would be generally game.
    1. mat-vey 22 February 2021 08: 38
      
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      AK scheme
      
      This is a gas engine - the free shutter has nothing to do with it.
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      With the shutter closed?
      
      A closed shutter allows for increased accuracy ...
      1. Al_lexx 22 February 2021 11: 08
        
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        This is a gas engine - the free shutter has nothing to do with it.
        
        Yes I understand. The design was confusing.
        
        mat-vey 22 February 2021 12: 34
        
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        Yes I understand. The design was confusing.
        
        This is a common occurrence .. the more it looks like it was done on purpose (design).
        
        Bad_gr 23 February 2021 19: 42
        
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        The army ordered a submachine gun chambered for 9x19, and a pistol ("Boa") chambered for the more powerful 9x21 cartridge.
        In my opinion, it is more logical and PP under 9x21, although then you will not do with a free shutter.
2. Flooding 22 February 2021 07: 33
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  Quote: Al_lexx
  Well, I don’t know, I don’t know the AK scheme, for a pistol cartridge ...
  With all my sympathy for AK, IMHO some kind of nonsense turns out. As if we do not have other, more elegant solutions for such a patron (that a thread like "Cedar", etc.
  
  comparing the cedar and the knight is not entirely correct. it is obvious that the knight has a wider range of tasks due to the higher indicators of the aiming range, grip and ergonomics.
  cedar is more for police tasks.
  pistol cartridge primarily not for the sake of compactness (this is not always necessary and good), but to avoid ricochet inside the premises
  1. Al_lexx 22 February 2021 11: 02
    
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    comparing cedar and knight is not entirely correct
    
    I didn't compare. I just reasoned out loud and remembered the first thing that came to mind. 3,5 kg, for a pistol cartridge it seems to me that it is still a bit too much. And the design of the bolt box confused me. The fact that he was at the base of the knight, I ignored. Yes, I was mistaken, but doubts were not dispelled.
3. svp67 22 February 2021 10: 50
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  Well, I don’t know, I don’t know the AK scheme, for a pistol cartridge ...
  
  Laurels MP-5 haunt ...
  1. Al_lexx 22 February 2021 11: 05
    
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    Laurels MP-5 haunt ...
    
    Something like that. Most of its modifications are almost one and a half kilograms lighter than the saber Kalash.
    For reliability I will not say anything. not in the subject. And hardly anyone compared them.
    1. mat-vey 22 February 2021 12: 38
      
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      Most of its modifications are almost one and a half kilograms lighter than the saber Kalash.
      
      Are you not mistaken again, per kilogram?
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      Laurels MP-5 haunt ...
      
      Something like that. Most of its modifications are almost one and a half kilograms lighter than the saber Kalash.
      For reliability I will not say anything. not in the subject. And hardly anyone compared them.
      
      Maybe you will breach less? The weight of the MP5a5 with an empty magazine is 3.25 kilos, where is one and a half kilos lighter? In your fantasies? At least take a look at the wiki, the technical specifications are not secret.
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        to be precise, the MP5A4 weighs 2g, the MP895A5 - 5g, but the MP3KA100 weighs only 5 kg ... data from the home site of H&K.
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        mat-vey 23 February 2021 07: 17
        
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        The MP-5 has several modifications. From 2kg to 3,2.
        
        MP2KA5 weighs 4 kg the letter "K" as BE hints at kurz ... This is such a "trim" without a stock and almost without a barrel, so it's no wonder that it weighs a kilo less ..
4. YOUR 24 February 2021 02: 18
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  In the presence of excellent machines, the main parameters for the PP, which compare favorably with the machine, are weight and dimensions. Otherwise, it makes no sense to replace the machine with a PP.
  That we see the size of about 700 mm, weight - 3.65 kg.
  Compare with AK-205
  size - 775 mm, with folded stock - 590 mm
  weight - about 4 kg.
  Compared to AM-17, it is not at all in favor of PPK-20.
  - size with folded stock - 490 mm
  weight - 2.5 kg
Konnick 22 February 2021 07: 39
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This PP option is again designed for export. KK can no longer come up with anything new, so it is engaged in remaking weapons to NATO standards and is a little engaged in improving the appearance, such a peculiar shiny wrapper, suddenly rich sheikhs will bite.
And all this talk about deliveries is the same as the name on the stew, such as GOST, but there is still no meat there.
1. YOUR 24 February 2021 02: 36
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  You will see how many new small arms have recently appeared - pistols, submachine guns, machine guns, machine guns, sniper rifles, and what is on the way out. New weapons appear exclusively in special forces and in the Rosgvardia, the Army, as it ran with the AK-74 of the USSR release, continues. Well, at least the bulk was changed to AK-74M.
Bradley 22 February 2021 07: 55
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But this is PP-19.
All around deception!
Strashila 22 February 2021 07: 58
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"The weapon is intended for units of law enforcement agencies," I understand that 9 x 19 is more common, but the 9 x 21 option would be more preferable for unification with the SR1MP pistol.
Thrifty 22 February 2021 08: 15
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And why is it "sharpened" under the Luger cartridge? An export option, or what?
1. Flooding 22 February 2021 10: 14
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  And why is it "sharpened" under the Luger cartridge? An export option, or what?
  
  samples of Russian small arms chambered for 9x19 Luger, aka 9x19 Parabellum:
  Yarygin pistol
  Lebedev pistol
  pistol GSh-18
  line PP-19
  PP-2000
  and AEK was offered
  the Russian military-industrial complex produces cartridges in this caliber:
  7Н31, 7Н21, 7Н30
  
  What kind of export is this?
  The caliber has long been used with might and main.
U-58 22 February 2021 08: 24
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Probably, you need to be a great specialist in automatic weapons in order to understand the validity of the more than a huge range of weapons and ammunition produced for them.
40 years ago, they got by with one or two Kalash models as well as PM and APS - and nothing. The tasks were carried out.
Konstantin Gogolev 22 February 2021 08: 32
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And why do law enforcement agencies, in principle, need silent shooting? Hostages are rare enough.
1. PSih2097 22 February 2021 09: 35
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  And why do law enforcement agencies, in principle, need silent shooting? Hostages are rare enough.
  
  Anti-terror ...
Kapkan 22 February 2021 09: 13
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Ugly mine for a store for the sake of figs knows what and to whom. ((
Black Colonel 22 February 2021 10: 42
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And in my opinion, for the army (tankers, pilots) PP under 7,62x25 - that's it! 9 mm is for the cops.
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  "And in my opinion, for the army (tankers, pilots) PP under 7,62x25 - that's it! 9 mm is for the cops."
  justify. the caliber in the army must be the same
Luty 22 February 2021 12: 13
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Well, there are more different samples - and good or not very good is the second thing.
KSVK 22 February 2021 17: 52
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Quote: Konstantin Gogolev
And why do law enforcement agencies, in principle, need silent shooting?

The guardsmen are also security officials. Silent elimination of the unwanted is the very thing.
And yes, a 9x21 PCB would be preferable. IMHO.
Eug 22 February 2021 19: 29
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If the PP is army - then, as for me, a weak cartridge, and even with the removal of some of the powder gases and a silencer (which weakens the muzzle energy). If for special tasks it is oversized and heavy (however, the weight will give stability when shooting). Something like this...
1. mat-vey 23 February 2021 07: 44
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  and even with the removal of part of the powder gases
  
  And where does he "take" them with a free shutter?
Dkuznecov 22 February 2021 22: 27
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This is a new scheme
or another compilation from 1945
with changing some parameters?
If the number of parameters = n,
that number of such "breakthrough options" = n! (factorial)

I understand that the manufacturer
since 1945 and played.
Either in caliber or in barrel length.
That is the material of the butt.
That is the presence / absence of the Picatinny rail.
Vadim Ananyin 23 February 2021 19: 54
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I read the comments on the fact there is nothing, someone can professionally and reasonably evaluate this tool. Specifically, in fact + and -. Thank you and don’t be angry.
aglet 23 February 2021 19: 54
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not otherwise, for the "guards" to grow