How the ideas of the Black Hundreds migrated to the Third Reich: an expert's account

Representatives of the Russian emigration in 1941 divided into two large camps. The former actively supported the invasion of the Nazis into the territory of the Soviet Union. The latter came out resolutely against this and came to the understanding that they were ready with all their strength and capabilities to help the USSR to resist the Nazis.

Among those who took part in the formation of the Nazi ideology itself, the Nazi worldview, as it turns out, there were representatives of the so-called Black Hundred movement. This movement began to form in the Russian Empire after the defeat in the Russo-Japanese War in 1905. The main ideology is extreme right-wing nationalism with dogmas about the need to preserve the monarchical system in Russia.

Despite the fact that in Russia itself the Black Hundreds were defeated, their ideas were eventually able to migrate to the West, primarily to Germany, which in the early 1930s was building a new approach to the functioning of the state based on radical ideological currents.

The ardent anti-Semitism of the Black Hundreds, their attempts to present problems in the country (and almost in the world) as the "destructive activity" of a particular nation came to the court in the Hitlerite Reich. The ideas of Hitler himself, as it turned out, were largely based on the works of those who tried to declare radical nationalism "the basis for the salvation of Russia."

About how the ideology of the Black Hundreds was in demand in Nazi Germany, in the story on the channel of Dmitry Puchkov - the narration of the expert:

Comments

[rocket757]

Nothing new ... destructive ideas take root well where they are ready to destroy everything, everyone, in order to achieve their goals.

[tasha]

Victor, so the "Black Hundred" seemed to belong to the conservative movements. What kind of destruction?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: tasha

Victor, so the "Black Hundred" seemed to belong to the conservative movements. What kind of destruction?

And on what basis do you think that conservative movements are creative?

[tasha]

I believe?! You are writing about this, you have to take the rap. Philosophical question...
I believe that "where they are ready to destroy everything, everyone, for the sake of achieving their goals" - refers to the "Black Hundred" in the last place, especially against the background of radical movements that were gaining popularity in Russia at the beginning of the 19th century ..

[rocket757]

To preserve exclusively your own, at the expense of others, including ... no, no, you can't build anything like that. Neither a person, nor society, nor the state lives / exists in an isolated environment, which means that you will have to equalize others, neighbors who do not share their views, ideas ..... so sho a train of pogroms, murders, crimes stretches behind any such organization.
THIS IS NOT CREATION, THIS IS DESTRUCTION! First, others, and then ...

[tasha]

Maybe I'm totally against it? You have hit the demagoguery - your right.
The Black Hundreds, no matter how I treat them, with the slogans "Down with the autocracy" did not walk the streets ... And yes, do not try to attribute their praise to me ...

[rocket757]

Without demagoguery ... were there any facts of Jewish and other pogroms?
The simple answer is YES / NO.
Have you spawned a bunch of offended people from different political and national groups? WELL NO?
The answer to them, and at the same time to many innocent ones, then flew in? WELL NO?
Simple questions, simple answers .... SPECIFICATIONS.
I do not treat them worse than the rest, PARTICULAR!
This is our story too. The deeds of bygone days, everything and for everything already then received what they deserved!
Just remember not to trample on these old rakes.

[tasha]

It seemed to me that you are trying to get away.
I can agree with you on one thing - the desire of conservatives for stability can sometimes lead to the destruction of the system. Sometimes! "It works - don't touch it!" ...
I say - philosophy, dialectics and a bunch of wise words

[rocket757]

As they correctly wrote below, IDEAS do not disappear, are reborn, or appear in one form or another.
Sometimes they are not immediately recognized, if you are not a connoisseur of history.
I am not gripped by any ideas, old, new, if they are for the benefit of my country, my people .... for all of humanity, not, not my topic.
Healthy conservatism, like well-thought-out progressive ideas, can be beneficial ... then we take it into service. That's the whole philosophy.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: rocket757

Without demagoguery ... were there any facts of Jewish and other pogroms?
The simple answer is YES / NO.

Simple answer

The Black Hundred organizations began their formation not before, but after the first, most powerful wave of pogroms.

Black Hundred organizations were most active in regions with a mixed population (on the territory of modern Ukraine, Belarus and in 15 provinces of the "Jewish Pale"), where more than half of all members of the Union of the Russian People and other Black Hundred organizations were concentrated. After the organization of the Black Hundred movement, only two major pogroms were recorded. Both of them occurred in 1906 on the territory of Poland (Bialystok, Siedlce) where the Russian Black Hundreds did not have much influence [17] [16]. The leaders of the Black Hundred movement and the charters of the organizations declared the movement's law-abiding nature and condemned the pogroms.

The pogroms were organized by the Black Hundred organizations, which did not exist. VIKI to help. You cannot suspect her of sympathy for the Black Hundreds.
Will you make a conclusion yourself?

[Proton]

I didn’t know, but who is the expert here?

[Flooding]

Friends, and watch the video?
5 minutes after the article was published, they drove me to write comments.
With a video duration of 51 minutes. Rapid fire))

[rocket757]

What about reading historical documents? To form an opinion on only one movie .... somehow reckless.
Shall we discuss the opinion of the author of the video or historical facts?

[Flooding]

Quote: rocket757

Shall we discuss the opinion of the author of the video or historical facts?

Oh how. An unexpected maneuver.
Okay. Let's discuss historical facts.
Since you didn't like the video.
I have not looked, but I condemn))
So, where do you disagree with the opinion of the invited citizen?

[rocket757]

I have not looked, I do not condemn and do not even discuss .... I will not change my opinion until I meet the facts, documents that refute what I have read earlier.

[Flooding]

Quote: rocket757

I have not looked, I do not condemn and do not even discuss .... I will not change my opinion until I meet the facts, documents that refute what I have read earlier.

Have a great Sunday evening, everyone.
Far East, good night))

[Brix]

In principle, the idea of ​​"friendship of peoples" was cracked at the seams in 1991. Now, for example, these fruits are being reaped by ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

There was no need to fiddle with Russia for all sorts of republics, and even on such a scale as Kazakhstan or the same Ukraine.

We wanted the best, but it turned out as always ©

It is a pity that even I. Stalin did not foresee the consequences of the small-town “blanket on himself” for the ideology that he was building.

[tatra]

Enough, enemies of the communists, to cowardly blame the communists for what you have done YOURSELF. The communists and their supporters in the republics of the USSR coexisted calmly and peacefully, and you that under the USSR instilled anger and hatred against them, under the spells of "freedom and independence" divided the USSR among themselves, that 30 years after you seized the republics of the USSR, you instill anger and hatred as against the communists and their supporters, as well as against each other, you pit the peoples against each other, you unleash wars in the territory of the USSR you captured.

[Brix]

Dear, do you always have such a tactic - "copy" + "paste"?

Every commentary begins with "enemies of the communists".

1) This is either thick trolling to denigrate the communist ideology or the leaders along with the USSR.

2) Very narrow horizons. Closing our eyes to those cons and shortcomings that really were. Fear of admitting mistakes and improving, modernizing.

[tatra]

That is the whole 30-year-old "ideology" of the enemies of the communists who seized the USSR - malice AGAINST the communists and their supporters, and to all accusations YOU respond with malice AGAINST the communists and their supporters. So, I looked at the comments on the Web about whom to erect a monument on Lubyanka in Moscow, and again everything is in accordance with the post-Soviet ideology. Normal people - spoke out FOR their choice, and the enemies of the communists - as ALWAYS, viciously, aggressively - AGAINST someone else's choice. You have nothing and no one good for yourself, not for what you have done, nor for your country and people.

[rocket757]

Quote: Brix

Dear, you have

How dare you reproach the honorary commentator !!!
This one is always such STABILITY, in the comments .... who found something interesting there? At work I have more interesting cadres for the communists, the PAST, for the USSR, they speak / write / defend !!! Ha, ha, ha.

[Revolver]

Quote: Brix

It is a pity that even I. Stalin did not foresee the consequences of the small-town “blanket on himself” for the ideology that he was building.

Stalin saw it when he was People's Commissar for Nationalities in Lenin's government. Stalin proposed to give the national minorities cultural autonomy, but not administrative. Nevertheless, it was Lenin who arranged for Stalin to be dragged out and insisted on the union structure of the state. Lenin also slaughtered the Russian regions of the South-East to Ukraine. By the time Stalin came to power, the Union was a fait accompli, and there was nothing Stalin could do about it.

[Sergej1972]

It was not so. Stalin substantiated precisely the creation of territorial autonomies in the form of the ASSR and AO, he was, one might say, the father and creator of most of them. The disagreements with Lenin concerned the fate of the so-called independent Soviet republics of Ukraine, Belarus and the TSFSR. He was for their joining the RSFSR as an ASSR, and Lenin for creating a new level of power over the RSFSR and these three republics represented by the USSR.

[Brix]

Well, my opinion is that the "fraternal peoples" are the failure of the communists and the Bolsheviks and simply fiddling with Russia, starting with the territories and ending with living people. Those grains are bearing fruit now.

Let me tell you frankly: if, for example, the present southeast of Ukraine remained within the Yekaterinoslav and Kherson provinces (oblast, krai, region) - that is, in Russia, now the people living there would laugh that they are like some kind of Ukrainians. The same applies to Kiev and the territories on the border with Russia - Sumy and Chernigov regions.

And so - sorry. Soon 100 years, as there is Ukraine. And why? And because "no matter what nationality you are, we are one Soviet people."

But as it turned out, nationalism - my house is better than yours - exceeded the struggle for equality and brotherhood.

And in addition: the Russian Federation should already work with its diaspora - both in Ukraine and in Belarus, Kazakhstan and the Tribaltic. You need to at least somehow support your people, who are enough there.

I'm not talking about those who live in prostration. Help those regain their identity.

It's funny to hear when a person has a Russian surname; parents and grandparents who came from Russia to Ukraine to "raise the country" from the Urals or Kuban; those who do not know the Ukrainian language call themselves Ukrainians only because they were born in the state of Ukraine.

[Ryazan87]

By the time Stalin came to power, the Union was a fait accompli, and Stalin could do nothing about it.

This is probably why 5 декабря 1936 года the Kazakh ASSR was withdrawn from the Russian SFSR and it was given the status of a union republic called the Kazakh SSR. Uralsk, Guryev, Pavlodar, Kokchetav, Semipalatinsk, Petropavlovsk were "cut" into this cute formation precisely in the 30s, when Lenin had long since lay down in the mausoleum.

[Brix]

Thank you all for the new information. There is always something to read in the comments. Not some formulaic phrases, "spam" or even worse - "srach" - but really new and useful information for yourself.

[Sergej1972]

These cities were already part of the Kazakh ASSR as part of the RSFSR, even before its transformation into a union republic. The territories of the Kazakh ASSR in 1935 and the Kazakh SSR in 1937 are completely identical. I also do not quite understand the meaning of the transfer of these territories to Kazakhstan, but they became part of it even before the 30s. What were the changes? At the beginning of the 30s, the Kara-Kalpak Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was separated from the Kazakh ASSR, it became the ASSR, directly entering the RSFSR. But when in 1936 Kazakhstan received the status of a union republic, Karakalpakia was territorially cut off from the RSFSR. They did not return it to Kazakhstan, but transferred it to Uzbekistan while maintaining the status of the ASSR.
And even earlier, in 1925, the Orenburg province was separated from the Kyrgyz ASSR. Orenburg until this moment was its capital. The Orenburg province became directly part of the RSFSR, and the Kyrgyz ASSR was renamed into the Kazakh (initially Kazak) ASSR. If it were not for the persistence of the population and the leadership of the Orenburg province in 1925, now the Orenburg region would not be a part of Russia, but a part of Kazakhstan.

[Sergej1972]

Stalin, being the main authority of the party on national issues during Lenin's life, condemned the Austrian social democrats' idea of ​​national-cultural autonomy and defended the idea of ​​territorial autonomy in two forms + political autonomy in the form of the ASSR and administrative autonomy in the form of autonomous regions (AO). Although in practice, some elements of national and cultural autonomy in the USSR were used in relation to a number of indigenous peoples and national minorities who did not make up the majority of the population anywhere and whose representatives were scattered throughout the country. By the way, many here on the site do not fully understand the essence of national-cultural autonomy, there is a certain terminological confusion. It is extraterritorial, as opposed to territorial autonomy. The fact that some kind of territorial autonomy mainly deals with issues of culture and education does not become a national-cultural autonomy. Although an intermediate option is possible, combining elements of national-cultural and territorial autonomy. An example is the linguistic communities of Belgium, Dutch-speaking, French and German, which have the rights of subjects of the federation. They deal mainly with issues of language, culture, education, but only within their linguistic region, and not throughout Belgium. Plus the French and Dutch-speaking communities operate in parallel on the territory of Brussels. In turn, in Belgium, three territorial entities of a different type operate in parallel - Wallonia, Flanders and Brussels. Moreover, the governing bodies of Flanders and the Dutch-speaking community are united, but there are no Wallonia and the French community, because there are two communities on the territory of Wallonia - the French and the German.

[illuminat]

Quote: Brix

It is a pity that even I. Stalin did not foresee the consequences of the small-town “blanket on himself” for the ideology that he was building.

It is difficult even to imagine the degree of dementia of such reasoning. The ideology of INTERNATIONALISM was built, and the USSR was torn apart by nationalists of all stripes. Unfortunately, the liberals instill just such an anecdotal misunderstanding of the essence of the processes taking place. The weak-minded believe.

[lucul]

About how the ideology of the Black Hundreds was in demand in Nazi Germany, in the story on the channel of Dmitry Puchkov - the narration of the expert:

So Puchkov opened up)))
Have thought - they have Nazism of the Reich, it turns out relied on the ideas of the Black Hundreds. The Germans themselves, supposedly, would not have thought of this.
Hmm ... but as a patriot.

[carstorm 11]

What is the most tenacious parasite? Idea. She is tenacious and extremely infectious. Once the idea takes over the brain, it is almost impossible to get rid of it.
Nolan made a very good film. You can pay attention to quotes for a long time.

[lucul]

What is the most tenacious parasite? Idea. She is tenacious and extremely infectious. Once the idea takes over the brain, it is almost impossible to get rid of it.

You are now talking to me about how the anchor is laid in the brain for NLP.
I observe these anchors from all sides.

[Poetry]

Any grain germinates where there is fertile soil. The German soil turned out to be very fertile.

[tasha]

I look with interest at materials and read books from Dmitry Puchkov's projects, but I must note that Yegor Yakovlev is very mistaken in his conclusion that the roots of Nazi anti-Semitism grow from Russia. We type the word Anti-Semitism - and we are enlightened ... "According to a number of researchers, anti-Semitism arose and developed in the world of ancient paganism." Nothing new...

[Sergej1972]

Anti-Semitism was very common in the Austrian part of Austria-Hungary.

[Red Alert]

Quote: Nagan

Quote: Brix

It is a pity that even I. Stalin did not foresee the consequences of the small-town “blanket on himself” for the ideology that he was building.

Stalin saw it when he was People's Commissar for Nationalities in Lenin's government. Stalin proposed to give the national minorities cultural autonomy, but not administrative. Nevertheless, it was Lenin who arranged for Stalin to be dragged out and insisted on the union structure of the state. Lenin also slaughtered the Russian regions of the South-East to Ukraine. By the time Stalin came to power, the Union was a fait accompli, and there was nothing Stalin could do about it.

The RSDLP consisted not only of Lenin and Stalin. Local committees and councils made up of representatives of national minorities did not agree to cultural autonomy. They were very brave and ruthless people. Some have spent decades underground. Try to force such people to do something, you can only agree

[Prisoner]

Is the Russian man to blame again? Another one who wants to pull an owl onto the globe! Was there anti-Semitism in Western Europe? Why the Fritz Black Hundreds with their ideas, when there were so many such good things as chauvinism and hatred of Jews in Europe that they could carry them by carts.

[Flooding]

Quote: Captive

Is the Russian man to blame again? Another one who wants to pull an owl onto the globe! Was there anti-Semitism in Western Europe? Why the Fritz Black Hundreds with their ideas, when there were so many such good things as chauvinism and hatred of Jews in Europe that they could carry them by carts.

612g. and 642g. - expulsion of Jews from the Visigoth kingdom
1290g. - expulsion of Jews from England
1394. - expulsion of Jews from France
1492 - expulsion of Jews from Spain, Sicily and Sardinia
1496 - expulsion of Jews from Portugal
1500g. - expulsion of Jews from Provence
1615. - expulsion of Jews from France
well, etc.
do not count.

[Prisoner]

That's it!

[pyc.arpeccop tornado 150]

He pulled out the old story about the commissars of non-Jews, which made everyone sore.
The CPSU (b) hired independent managers from the local environment.
The usual thing.

[Boromir1941]

in order to build something, you need to come up with something, with your own clear program and modernize this program every few decades, let's say. Take the USSR, for sure the system itself began to rot in the late 80s, and if edited correctly, then maybe a catastrophe could have been avoided. maybe gorby and "wanted" to do something similar (perestroika), but only his hands turned out to be hooks and zero in politics

[clerk]

USSR. began to rot in 1953-56, when Malenkov destroyed market relations in the economy, and Khrushchev, on the sidelines of the XX Congress, created a split in ideology. After that, the USSR was doomed.

[tatra]

At the end of the 80s, during their Perestroika, the enemies of the communists had already captured the USSR, since then they have been planting hatred and hatred on the territory of the USSR as the ideology and history of their country.

[Baron pardus]

Let me say a few words about the origins of anti-Semitism, since I myself am like Zhirinovsky. My dad, although not a lawyer, but a musician, but yes. As far as my grandfather told me. Anti-Semitism has its roots in antiquity. First, the ancient Jews were monotheists, and they looked at polytheists like crap, and did not make much of a secret from it. Moreover, at the slightest opportunity, genocide was committed against everyone they could reach. (see Old Testament). Secondly, looking at the polytheists as crap, the Jews themselves completely forgot about such things as ... civilization. When the Greeks came to Judea, they were amazed that, in fact, there was no architecture, no art, no philosophers, no literature, no theater, and the craftsmanship was at a low level. Metalworking and masonry were poorly developed. There were no theaters, nothing poetry. There was goat-breeding and olive farming and primitive gardening. But the "goat herders" told the Hellenes that you are barbarians. At the same time, the Jewish youth began to flow to the Hellenes. That became a tragedy for the rabbi and the rabbi began to tighten the screws. The young Jewish people could simply compare what they saw in front of them in the Hellenes and how they lived themselves. Roughly the same thing happened with Rome. And if the Jews did not resist the Greeks, then there were several uprisings against the Romans, with all other components unchanged. That is, arrogance based on monotheism and "God's chosenness", plus the absence of civilization in the understanding of the Romans. The Jews simply had no developed architecture, no art, no handicrafts at the level of the Romans. There is a lot of ambition, plus they also organized a partisan war. And NOBODY likes guerrilla warfare.

Then Christianity came out of Judaism. My grandfather told me that the Romans invented Christianity in order to keep slaves in obedience, they say, "in the next world it will be reckoned," but as always happens with the idea, releasing the genie from the bottle to drive it out or even control it is impossible and the idea infected the Romans themselves. (Just like the Americans sponsored Islamic extremism to confront the USSR in Afghanistan and got Al Qaeda and the Islamic Brotherhood ... Just like the American ideas of liberalism destroyed the USSR and returned like a boomerang to Western Europe and the USA). The Jews remained true to their faith where it was said that a) They are God's chosen ones. b) They will rule the world c) The goyim will serve them. Again, when someone who just can't draw a horse tells you that you, they say, are a barbarian and a pig, you won't like it. This is all in the Old Testament, and the Christians, having read this, were not at all happy. (Who is pleased when some barbarians who could not invent poetry, they cannot make a statue, they consider you non-human). Further more. Christianity (and Islam) prohibit usury. Judaism is not. And they don't like usurers, from the word in general. And not only Jews, look what happened to the Templars, to whom the King of France owed a lot of dough. Do you think the Templars were soaked because they were "Sotonists hatstsky"? It's about the bubble. By the way, on the History channel, that's exactly what they said.

Religious intolerance was superimposed on this. Recall that Catholics and Protestants slaughtered each other in cities for several centuries, and so Adolf Alloyzovich is resting (30 years' war). Although both are Christians. And then there are few of the Gentiles, so also the usurers. Who, in addition to all THEMSELVES, consider the Chosen race of God, and the rest - goims and khazers (khazer is a pig. paw that Al Qaeda and the Inquisition are resting, together with Nobunaga, Hitler and Nero.While in emigration in Italy, we were lured to English lessons (50 people), but instead of English they began to reach us with their Torah and "God's chosenness", a special secret without doing.

Moreover, imagine that you have a certain number of people living in your kingdom who openly send YOUR laws. They say "We have our own laws, we are God's chosen ones, go, you, khazers and goyim, through the forest." Nobody could like that.
Although there is a Torah, even in the Bible in the legend about the Haan woman Izya from Nazareth openly says "I came here only to take away sins from the house of ISRAEL" (that is, the rest go through the forest). Well, then this woman began to humiliate herself that they say even DOGS get crumbs from the OWNER. So the sources of anti-Semitism are not in the Black Hundreds (although they were still scum), but in antiquity. And Nazi ideology is a terrible mixture of Italian fascism and British imperialism. (See British Roots of German Nazism). Let me remind you that in the colonies, Catholics (Spanish and French) and Protestants acted in different ways. If the Catholics, the natives converted to Catholicism, were accepted as equals, the Protestants were not. And the fact that the Protestants (whether the British are Danes), arranged in the colonies - it was a complete Azokhn Wei and Achtung at the same time. Why are there colonies. Recall how the ENGLISH (White Christians PROTESTANTS) treated the Irish (White Christians CATHOLICS). So the religious intolerance multiplied by the theory of "God's chosenness" of the Jewish nation could not but give birth to anti-Semitism.

This is about what my grandfather told me and what I myself read in many articles.

[pyc.arpeccop tornado 150]

My dad, although not a lawyer, but a musician, but still, yes.

And what, you drown here for free?
Well, tell me more that you sell cool eggs for the price of raw ones, for the sake of broth.

[RAM]

The Black Hundred movement arose in Russia as a response to the lawlessness of Jewish gangs. With which he coped quite successfully. And there is no need to compare the ideology of fascism and the Black Hundreds, these are completely different views. Learn the story of the hack.

[Baron pardus]

What kind of "Jewish gangs"? Those who sat downtrodden in the Pale of Settlement? Those who could not be engaged in crafts and go to universities? yes, the great bandits - the Jews of the Russian empire Billy the Kid is resting, but what about Billy the Kid? Don't you know that the whole Wild West was only Jews? One and all. All Cosa Nostra are Jews alone. Didn't you know? Chingachgook, have you heard? He, too, is a Jew ... They also translated "Christian babies" into matzo. Everyone. All were killed and eaten. And all that the Black Hundreds achieved was: a) they presented Russia as a country of obscurant xenophobes, since the Jews of Russia instantly transferred all data about the pogroms abroad. By the way, murders and rapes in Jewish townships, well, had no effect on the Jews smugglers. How do I know? My great great grandfather - my grandfather Kalman was a smuggler. Not a BANDIT, but a smuggler. I went to Romania and Hungary. Did a good gesheft. When the communists came, he gave them half at once, half zahanil somewhere in the Carpathians, and ... he died from the Spanish without having time to tell anyone where he took the gold. Here is such an ablom in our family. b) received a HARRO-5th column. When, during WWI, the Jews of Russia dreamed that Kaiser's Germany would win. There was no Pale of Settlement in Germany, and there were no pogroms. By the way, as my grandfather told me, and his family told him, when, during WWI, the GERMANS entered their village, they did not touch ANYONE (unlike the Russian army), whose soldiers put on a stand, helped with the housework. They spoke fluently, since Yiddish is similar to German. Again, a huge number of Jews in Ingushetia suffered so much (for no reason) because of the pogroms. That they sincerely wished victory for the Kaiser. And what happened in WWI played a bad joke on the Jews of Ukraine. Those who remembered the Kaiser's army were still alive, and refused to leave "The Germans were already here, and we had nothing, and now there will be none." For which, unfortunately, they paid. The Germans who came in 1941 are not the Germans who came in 1917. Although the Ukrainians gave the Germans 100 points ahead of the genocide of Jews and Poles.

[Red Alert]

Quote: RAM

The Black Hundred movement arose in Russia as a response to the lawlessness of Jewish gangs. With which he coped quite successfully. And there is no need to compare the ideology of fascism and the Black Hundreds, these are completely different views. Learn the story of the hack.

A link to the material about the lawlessness of these gangs is possible?

[Baron pardus]

There were Jewish self-defense units - the Bund. They arose as an answer to pogroms. Pogroms, what's this? And the ability to rob and force for free. Perhaps you can find a piece of clothing or a piece of gold? And if not, then you can beat and kill someone with impunity. Chill out. The police will not intercede for the Jews anyway because they are "infidels and infidels." It is dumb to arrange pogroms for Muslims, they will dunk them and say that they have never come to the aul. And the Jews on the territory of Ingushetia were forbidden to have weapons. To rob and beat the unarmed with impunity, what true Cossack can resist such a temptation? A couple of times the mummed goats ran into trouble. They came to the place to rob and rape, and a warm welcome was already waiting for them there. Sometimes even with machine guns. Machine guns were acquired illegally, by smugglers, and went to the Bund either through the Crimean ports or through the border as contraband. From Turkey, Hungary and Romania. By the way, the fact that Ostap Bender's dad is a Turkish subject is a very broad allusion to nationality :-) Jews often took Turkish citizenship to avoid persecution by the authorities of the Russian Empire. In general, how diligently RI made the 5th column out of the Jews for itself - it’s just lovely to look at it.

[pyc.arpeccop tornado 150]

A link to the material about the lawlessness of these gangs is possible?

https://yandex.ru/search/touch/?text=%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D1%86%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85%20%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%20&lr=213&clid=2237970

[Time traveller]

And we are Hitlerism too ???
Yakovlev tries to ascribe Himmler's ravings to the Black Hundreds, who ceased to exist as a political movement after the fall of the autocracy in Russia.
The Black Hundred ideology was extremist, but not Nazi, but religious.
And from attempts to pass Russians off almost as ideological inspirers of Hitlerism smacks of open Russophobia. Hitler had plenty of Western European predecessors and inspirers.

[pyc.arpeccop tornado 150]

Hitler had plenty of Western European predecessors and inspirers.

Blavatsky, for example. ))

[nikvic46]

Quote: tasha

Maybe I'm totally against it? You have hit the demagoguery - your right.
The Black Hundreds, no matter how I treat them, with the slogans "Down with the autocracy" did not walk the streets ... And yes, do not try to attribute their praise to me ...

Therefore, they did not go with such slogans, because the Black Hundreds were beneficial to the autocracy. In a society where inequality flourishes, nationalism is a lifesaver.

[nikvic46]

Many have strayed the shores. They confuse the Black Hundred movement with conservatism. We have many states with a conservative bias. But nationalism does not flourish there. The German ideologists of that time clearly knew what strings to play in the occupied countries. Both religion and the understandable desire of small people were in the course. to power. And all this has not died. We must be vigilant.

[Red Alert]

Quote: nikvic46

Many have strayed the shores. They confuse the Black Hundred movement with conservatism. We have many states with a conservative bias. But nationalism does not flourish there. The German ideologists of that time clearly knew what strings to play in the occupied countries. Both religion and the understandable desire of small people were in the course. to power. And all this has not died. We must be vigilant.

Which for example?

[Red Alert]

Quote: Baron Pardus

There were Jewish self-defense units - the Bund. They arose as an answer to pogroms. Pogroms, what's this? And the ability to rob and force for free. Perhaps you can find a piece of clothing or a piece of gold? And if not, then you can beat and kill someone with impunity. Chill out. The police will not intercede for the Jews anyway because they are "infidels and infidels." It is dumb to arrange pogroms for Muslims, they will dunk them and say that they have never come to the aul. And the Jews on the territory of Ingushetia were forbidden to have weapons. To rob and beat the unarmed with impunity, what true Cossack can resist such a temptation? A couple of times the mummed goats ran into trouble. They came to the place to rob and rape, and a warm welcome was already waiting for them there. Sometimes even with machine guns. Machine guns were acquired illegally, by smugglers, and went to the Bund either through the Crimean ports or through the border as contraband. From Turkey, Hungary and Romania. By the way, the fact that Ostap Bender's dad is a Turkish subject is a very broad allusion to nationality :-) Jews often took Turkish citizenship to avoid persecution by the authorities of the Russian Empire. In general, how diligently RI made the 5th column out of the Jews for itself - it’s just lovely to look at it.

This is called the search for the inner enemy. They searched and found. The power itself always creates a revolutionary situation.

[bober1982]

expert, Yakovlev is a characteristic Jewish, well-fed muzzle, well-fed and impudent, which, by the way, must be prosecuted for quoting Himmler.
Get loose, tsuki.

[bober1982]

Yakovlev should be prosecuted, along with Puchkov, who hums and assent throughout the video.
Jewish guys are starting to flirt, bring them to Israel, to Jewish gangs, there will always be a Russian answer, the experience of a century ago will be taken into account.

[pyc.arpeccop tornado 150]

Are you not a provider? Anything can be declared, only without appeals to extremism. In other cases, I advise, for conspiracy purposes, to change your finger when typing on the keyboard, because you cannot go from Thor to the ax, and Vepeen is not a panacea.

[bober1982]

Quote: pyc.arpeccop tornado 150

Anything can be declared, only without appeals to extremism.

Curiously, a spiritual mentor Union of the Russian people was St. John of Kronstadt, and this union never engaged in pogroms, but here they are impudently trying to link the Black Hundred movement with Nazism. Something new.

[pyc.arpeccop tornado 150]

Kerensky Jew, Gentile? It was enough that his entire government and he himself were Masons and were governed from an external center.
And it is naive to believe that the interests of the Russian people were taken care of by a non-Russian tsar. The history of a century ago teaches only one thing, that the revolt which the Bolsheviks raised was organized not in the interests of the people, but in the interests of a certain nat. a minority that still manipulates in the post-Soviet space.
It turns out that the fate of the Russians is historical, to be controlled by external forces, as now?
Is it possible to take into account the previous experience when choosing a new historical fate?
While we are building these projects, someone else already has his own on us.
In the body, all functions are controlled by the head. In theory, it can be changed only for another, with all the consequences that follow for the transplanted organism.

[iouris]

The Black Hundreds are one thing, and Nazism another. The USSR is light and life, Nazi Europe is darkness and death. And you don't have to shaggy Hitler.