Armored vehicles of Germany in the Second World War. Assault gun "Ferdinand"

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The birth of the most famous German self-propelled gun of the period of the Second World War “Ferdinand” is due, on the one hand, to intrigues around the heavy tank VK 4501 (P), and on the other, the advent of the 88-mm Pak 43 anti-tank gun. The VK 4501 (P) tank - simply saying the Tiger designed by Dr. Porsche - was shown to Hitler on April 20, 1942, at the same time as his competitor VK 4501 ( 1-1) - "Tiger" company Henschel. According to Hitler, both cars should have been put into serial production, which the Office of Arms in every way opposed, whose workers could not stand the obstinate pet of the Führer - Dr. Porsche. Tests did not reveal the obvious advantages of one vehicle over another, but Porsche was more prepared for the Tiger production - by June 6, 1942, the first 16 VK 4501 (P) tanks were ready for delivery, for which the assembly of towers was completed at Krupp . Henschel could deliver only one car by that time, and one without a tower. The first battalion equipped with Porsche “tigers” was supposed to be formed by August 1942 and sent to Stalingrad, but suddenly the Arms Department stopped all work on the tank for a month.

Armored vehicles of Germany in the Second World War. Assault gun "Ferdinand"
"Tigers" Porsche during the show senior management of the III Reich. 20 April 1942

VK4501 (P) in the courtyard "Nibelungenwerk". Lord in a hat - F.Porsche

Self-propelled gun "Ferdinand" during the test. Ferdinand Porsche sits on the left wing


The managers took advantage of Hitler's instructions to create an assault gun based on the PZ.IV and VK 4501 tanks, armed with the latest 88-mm anti-tank gun Pak 43 / 2 with a barrel in 71 caliber. With the submission of the Arms Directorate, it was decided to convert all 92 ready-made and being assembled in the workshops of the Nibelungenwerke plant of the VK 4501 (P) chassis into assault guns.

In September 1942, work began. The design was carried out by Porsche together with the designers of the Alkett plant in Berlin. Since the wheelhouse was to be located aft, the layout of the chassis had to be changed by placing the engines and generators in the middle of the hull. Initially it was planned to assemble new ACSs in Berlin, but this had to be abandoned due to difficulties associated with transportation by rail, and because of the unwillingness to suspend the release of StuG III assault guns, the main product of Alkett. As a result, the assembly of the ACS, which received the official designation 8,8 cm Pak 43 / 2 Sfl L / 71 Panzerjager Tiger (P) Sd.Kfz. 184 and the name Ferdinand (assigned personally by Hitler in February 1943, in deference to Dr. Ferdinand Porsche), was produced at the Nibelungenwerke plant.

The frontal 100-mm hulls of the Tiger (P) tank hull were also reinforced with 100-mm armor plates fixed to the hull with bolts with a bullet-proof head. Thus, the frontal armor of the case was brought to 200 mm. The frontal heading sheet had a similar thickness. The thickness of the side and stern sheets reached 80 mm (according to other data 85 mm). The armor plates of the cabin were joined “in a thorn” and strengthened with dowels, and then scalded. The cabin was attached to the body with brackets and bolts with a bullet-proof head.



In front of the hull located seats driver and radio operator. Behind them, in the center of the machine, two 12-cylinder carburetor V-shaped liquid-cooled engines Maybach HL 120TRM hp 265 hp were installed parallel to each other. (at 2600 rpm) each. The engines rotated two Siemens Tour aGV generators, which, in turn, supplied electric power to two Siemens D1495aAC traction electric motors with 230 kW each installed in the rear part of the vehicle under the fighting compartment. The torque from the electric motors was transmitted by electromechanical onboard gears to the driving wheels of the aft layout. In emergency mode or in the case of combat damage to one of the branches of the power supply, it was provided for duplication.

The chassis "Ferdinand" in relation to one board consisted of six road wheels with internal depreciation interlocked in pairs in three trucks with the original, very complex, but highly effective Porshevskoy suspension scheme with longitudinal torsions, tested even on an experienced VK 3001 (P) chassis. The drive wheel had removable gear rims with 19 teeth each. The guide wheel also had toothed rims, which excluded idle rewind of the tracks.

Each track consisted of 109 tracks 640 mm wide.

Ferdinand staffing

Ferdinand during tests at the Kummersdorf test site, spring 1943 of the year

The latest serial Ferdinand, surrendered prematurely


The 88-mm Pak 43 / 2 gun (self-propelled version StuK 43) with a barrel length 71 caliber, developed on the basis of the Flak 41 anti-aircraft gun, was installed in the wheelhouse, in the axles of the special machine. The horizontal pointing angle did not exceed the 28 ° sector. Elevation angle + 14 °, declination -8 °. 2200 gun weight kg. The embrasure in the frontal cutting room was covered with a massive, pear-shaped cast mask connected to the machine. However, the design of the mask was not very successful and did not provide complete protection against lead bullet sprays and small fragments that penetrated into the body through the gaps between the mask and the front sheet. Therefore, on the masks of most of the "Ferdinands" reinforced armor shields. The gun ammunition included 50 unitary shots placed on the walls of the cabin. In the stern of the cabin there was a round hatch intended for dismantling the gun.

According to German data, an PzGr 39 / 43 armor-piercing mass of 10,16 kg and an initial speed of 1000 m / s was punched at a distance of 1000 m 165-mm armor (at a meeting angle of 90 °), and a sabot PzGr 40 / 43 mass of 7,5 and X 1130 m / s - 193-mm, which provided "Ferdinand" the unconditional defeat of any of the then existing tanks.

The assembly of the first car began on February 16, and the last, the ninetieth Ferdinand, left the factory workshops 8 of May 1943. In April, the first production vehicle was tested at the Kummersdorf test site.

The baptism of Ferdinand was accepted during Operation Citadel as part of the 656 Tank Regiment, which included 653 and 654 Divisions (schwere Panzerjager Abteilung - sPz.Jager Abt.). By the beginning of the battle in the first there was 45, and in the second - 44 "Ferdinand". Both divisions were under the operational control of the 41 tank corps, participated in heavy battles on the northern face of the Kursk Bulge in the area of ​​Ponyri station (654 division) and the village of Teploe (653 division).

Ferdinand of the 653 division of heavy assault guns. July 1943 g

CAU "Ferdinand" 5-th company of the 654-th division of tank destroyers captured on the Kursk Bulge. NIBT Polygon, 1943 year

German heavy self-propelled gun "Ferdinand" and its crew


The 654 division suffered especially heavy losses mainly in minefields. On the battlefield remained 21 "Ferdinand". The German equipment, shot down and destroyed in the area of ​​the Ponyri station, was examined by 15 on July 1943 by representatives of the GAU and the NIBTPygon of the Red Army. Most of the "Ferdinands" was on a minefield filled with land mines from captured large-caliber shells and aerial bombs. More than half of the cars had damage to the chassis: broken tracks, broken track rollers, etc. In the five Ferdinands, damage to the undercarriage was caused by hits of projectiles of caliber 76-mm and more. In two German self-propelled guns, the gun barrels were shot through with shells and bullets of anti-tank guns. One car was destroyed by a direct hit of an aerial bomb, and another was hit by a 203-mm howitzer projectile hit the deckhouse roof.

Only one ACS of this type, which was fired from different directions with seven T-34 tanks and a battery of 76-mm guns, had a hole in the board, in the area of ​​the drive wheel. Another Ferdinand, without any damage to the hull and chassis, was set on fire by an incendiary bottle thrown by our infantrymen.

The Soviet SS-152 turned out to be the only worthy opponent of the heavy German self-propelled guns. The regiment SU-152 fired at 8 on July 1943 of the year attacking the “Ferdinands” of the 653-division, killing four enemy vehicles. In total, in July - August 1943, the Germans lost the 39 "Ferdinands". The last trophies went to the Red Army on the outskirts of Orel - at the railway station several damaged assault guns prepared for evacuation were captured.

The first battles of the “Ferdinands” at the Kursk Bulge became, in essence, the last, where these SAUs were used in large quantities. From a tactical point of view, their use left much to be desired. Created for the destruction of Soviet medium and heavy tanks at long distances, they were used as an advanced "armor shield", blindly ramming engineering barriers and anti-tank defenses, while suffering heavy losses. However, the moral effect of the appearance on the Soviet-German front in many ways invulnerable German self-propelled guns was very large. Appeared "Ferdinandomania" and "Ferdinand-Fear." Judging by the memoirs of literature, there was no fighter in the Red Army who did not knock out or, in extreme cases, did not participate in the battle with Ferdinands. They crawled into our positions on all fronts, beginning with the 1943 year (and sometimes even earlier) and up to the end of the war. The number of "wrecked" "Ferdinands" is approaching several thousand. This phenomenon can be explained by the fact that the majority of Red Army soldiers had little understanding of Marder, Bison and Naschorn there, and called any German self-propelled gun Ferdinand, which shows how great his "popularity" was among our fighters. Well, in addition, for the padded "Ferdinand" without talking gave the order.

Self-propelled gun "Ferdinand" in the yard of the plant before being transferred to the troops. May 1943 year. Cars painted yellow

"Ferdinand" during firing at the range in Putlos. May 1943 year. Well visible open hatch for loading ammunition



After the infamous completion of Operation Citadel, the Ferdinands remaining in the ranks were transferred to Zhytomyr and Dnepropetrovsk, where their current repair and replacement of tools began, caused by a strong peak of the barrels. At the end of August, the personnel of the 654 division were sent to France for re-formation and rearmament. At the same time, he transferred his ACS to the 653 Division, which in October - November took part in defensive battles in the area of ​​Nikopol and Dnepropetrovsk. In December, the division left the front line and was sent to Austria.

From July 5 (the beginning of Operation Citadel) through November 5 of the Ferdinand 1943 regiment knocked out 656 Soviet tanks, 582 anti-tank guns, 344 guns, 133 anti-tank guns, three aircraft, three armored vehicles and three SAUs, three SAUs, three aircraft, three SAUs, and three SAU planes. .Ledwoch.Ferdinand / Elefant. - Warszawa, 103).



Between January and March 1944, the Nibelungenwerke plant underwent an 47 upgrade of the remaining Ferdinands. In the frontal hull armor on the right, a ball mount of the MG 34 machine gun was mounted. A commander's turret, borrowed from the StuG 40 assault gun, appeared on the cabin roof. The shield on the barrel of the gun was turned "backwards" for better fastening, and also equipped with SPGs that did not have it. Ammunition brought to 55 shots. The name of the car was changed to Elefant (elephant). However, until the end of the war, self-propelled guns were often called by the familiar name "Ferdinand".

At the end of February 1944, the 1 th company of the 653 Division, was sent to Italy, where she participated in the battles at Anzio, and in May-June 1944 of the year - near Rome. In late June, the company, in which there were two serviceable "Elephanta", was transferred to Austria.

In April 1944, the 653 Division, consisting of two companies, was sent to the Eastern Front, in the Ternopil region. There, during the battles, the division lost 14 machines, but 11 of them managed to be repaired and re-commissioned. In July, in the division, already retreating through the territory of Poland, there were 33 serviceable self-propelled guns. However, 18 July 653-th division without intelligence and training was thrown into battle to the rescue of the SS Hohenstaufen 9 Panzer Division and within a day the number of combat vehicles in its ranks more than doubled. The Soviet troops very successfully used their heavy SPG and 57-mm anti-tank guns against the "eleants". Some of the German cars were only damaged and could be fully restored, but due to the impossibility of evacuation, they were blown up or set on fire by their own crews. The remnants of the division-12 combat-capable machines - 3 August was taken to Krakow. In October, the Jagdtiger self-propelled guns began to enter the division, and the remaining "elefants" were consolidated into the 1944 heavy anti-tank company.

Before the start of 1945, the company was in the reserve of the 4 tank army, and on February 25 it was transferred to the Wünsdorf area to strengthen the anti-tank defense. At the end of April, the "elephants" held the last battles in Wünsdorf and Zossen as part of the so-called Ritter group (captain Ritter was the commander of the 614 battery).

In Berlin, surrounded by the last two self-propelled guns "Elephant" were hit in the area of ​​Karl-August Square and the Church of Holy Trinity.

To this day, two SAUs of this type have been preserved. The Museum of armored weapons and equipment in Kubinka displays Ferdinand captured by the Red Army during the Battle of Kursk, and the Museum of the Aberdeen Proving Ground in the USA is Elephant, which went to the Americans in Italy, under Anzio.

The soldiers of the division "Hermann Goering" pass by Elephant (Ferdinand) "stuck in the mud." Italy, 1944 year

Soviet soldiers inspect German heavy self-propelled gun Ferdinand during the Kursk Battle

Wounded "Elephant (Ferdinand)" on the streets of Rome. Summer 1944 of the year

Ammunition loading. The impressive size of the 88-mm is lined. On the eve of the operation "Citadel". July 1943 year


Cleaning the gun barrel after firing and loading ammunition into the Ferdinand was not an easy task, requiring considerable physical effort from the crew. 653-th division of tank destroyers. Galicia, 1944 year

Burning ignited German ACS "Ferdinand". District Kursk Bulge

Ferdinand hit by a mine # 501, from the 654 division. The car in the list inspected by the GABTU commission is listed under the number “9”. This car was repaired and sent to the NIBT landfill. Currently located in the exposition of the Museum of armored vehicles in Kubinka. Kursk Bulge, Goreloye District

German self-propelled gun "Ferdinand" on the Kursk Bulge

Rokossovsky c officers inspect the wounded German self-propelled gun Ferdinand

Two wounded Ferdinand from the battalion 654 headquarters company. District of Ponyri station, 15-16 July 1943 of the year. On the left is headquarters Ferdinand No. II-03. The car was burned with kerosene bottles after a shell damaged its undercarriage.

German self-propelled gun "Ferdinand" from the 653-th battalion, destroyed by an internal explosion. Kursk Arc, 70 Army Defense Band, Summer 1943

The heavy assault gun "Ferdinand", destroyed by a direct hit of a bombs from the Soviet dive bomber Pe-2. Tactical number unknown. District station Ponyri and State Farm "1 May"

German self-propelled gun Ferdinand, which fell on a wooden bridge in the area of ​​Nikopol (Dnipropetrovsk region, Ukraine)


"Ferdinand" 653-th heavy division of tank destroyers, captured with the crew of the 129-th Orlovsky infantry division. July 1943 year

SAU "Ferdinand" Kubinka
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  1. +5
    22 August 2012 10: 14
    Set fire to such a fool for a million marks with a bottle, 3 rubles. 40 kopecks. But seriously, "Yes, there were people in our time, Not like the current tribe" I will honestly say for myself, I would not vouch for the dryness of my pants at the approach of THIS.
    1. +1
      22 August 2012 12: 27
      Well, the planes were more expensive, but shot them down with simple bullets (shells). By the way, there is only one case with a bottle ..
      1. +4
        22 August 2012 15: 05
        Quote: Delta

        Well, the planes were more expensive, but shot them down with simple bullets (shells). By the way, there is only one case with a bottle ..


        The planes of that war were cheaper than this monster.
        And the fact that Ferdinand is an excellent example of a self-propelled gun is a fact. A very powerful and dangerous machine. Although our "St. John's wort" were no less effective.
        1. +1
          22 August 2012 15: 51
          EMNIP "Tiger" cost about 250 marks. Probably "Ferdinand" is not more expensive. And the same Fw-000, for example, cost 190 marks. So this is a fighter. Not sure how much the bomber jacket cost?
  2. Patos89
    +2
    22 August 2012 10: 30
    Well, to set fire you still had to reach
    1. +4
      22 August 2012 11: 21
      And what to go, she crawls.
      1. +3
        22 August 2012 13: 29
        but why should she, with her dolnobolnosti and perseverance somewhere to climb?
  3. +6
    22 August 2012 11: 20
    I always respected Baryatinsky, I liked everything. thank
    1. Kibb
      +3
      22 August 2012 11: 53
      Vadim, for some time now I was not interested in commenting, but I read, a plus from me
      1. +2
        22 August 2012 12: 54
        Quote: Kibb
        Vadim, for some time now I was not interested in commenting, but I read, a plus from me


        And you Igor, and I have comments like this will roll,
    2. +4
      22 August 2012 12: 12
      A film about the restoration of Elephant in the United States Aberdeen.
      1. +2
        22 August 2012 12: 33
        And so the Germans were too smart with armor --- 200 mm is too much. Could 100 be limited.
        1. Kibb
          +2
          22 August 2012 13: 24
          Andrei, well, of course you are too clever, what to discuss? It's boring - it was a good site - but everything was awesome
        2. Prohor
          +2
          22 August 2012 20: 08
          Armor plates on bolts to fasten - wisdom is small. And more than 200 mm on serial armored vehicles in WWII - there was no harm, right?
  4. GHG
    GHG
    +4
    22 August 2012 11: 44
    From July 5 (the beginning of Operation Citadel) through November 5 of the Ferdinand 1943 regiment knocked out 656 Soviet tanks, 582 anti-tank guns, 344 guns, 133 anti-tank guns, three aircraft, three armored vehicles and three SAUs, three SAUs, three aircraft, three SAUs, and three SAU planes. .Ledwoch.Ferdinand / Elefant. - Warszawa, 103).
    How did they destroy 3 aircraft? 103 anti-tank rifles?
    1. +3
      22 August 2012 12: 03
      Quote: GES
      How did they destroy 3 aircraft? 103 anti-tank rifles?


      Yuri here most likely not the self-propelled guns themselves, but their provision

      According to the wartime staff (K.St.N. No. 1148c dated 31.03.43), a heavy battalion of tank destroyers included: battalion command, headquarters company (platoon: management, sapper, sanitary, antiaircraft), three companies of "Ferdinands" (in each company 2 vehicles of the company headquarters, and three platoons of 4 vehicles; i.e. 14 vehicles per company), a repair and evacuation company, a motor transport company. Total: 45 self-propelled guns "Ferdinand", 1 sanitary armored personnel carrier Sd.Kfz.251 \ 8, 6 anti-aircraft Sd.Kfz 7 \ 1, 15 semi-caterpillar tractors Sd.Kfz 9 (18 tons), trucks and cars.
      1. GHG
        GHG
        +1
        22 August 2012 12: 40
        It says "ferdinands", okay, I'm not a literalist and I won't find fault, it just always comes out like that, they don’t deal with carving ... in short, all the glory went to "ferdinands" - "elephants"
    2. borisst64
      +1
      22 August 2012 12: 10
      Quote: GES
      How did they destroy 3 aircraft?

      Apparently on the ground.
      But I’m interested in the question - why are the guide rollers gear? What is such a single rewind?
      1. +3
        22 August 2012 12: 26
        Quote: borisst64
        Apparently on the ground.


        During the "Citadel" the Germans did not capture any of our airfields, and you will agree somehow frivolously to count the plane that was knocked down by someone and moved over the plane lying on the ground, however, the Germans considered everything, they love this business
        1. Kibb
          +2
          22 August 2012 13: 44
          Quote: Vadivak
          During the "Citadel" the Germans did not capture any of our airfields

          And one more plus - "The best air defense - OUR tanks at THEIR airfield"
          1. +2
            22 August 2012 16: 20
            Quote: Kibb
            And one more plus - "The best air defense - OUR tanks at THEIR airfield"


            At the airport, that's all that was ..... (Koenigsberg district)
        2. +4
          22 August 2012 21: 01
          Vadivak, Duc, according to the office of Yuzik Goebbels, they destroyed our entire army 100 times during the war !!!!! wink laughing
          1. +1
            22 August 2012 21: 29
            Quote: datur
            about the data of the office of uszik goebbels



            Yuri yes, but that's what he said in Nuremberg on September 10, 1936

            The size of the Red Army in peacetime is two million people, due to a decrease in the military age of the military. Reservists, whose number is nine to ten million people, should also be added to this. Thus, in case of war, they will be able to mobilize eleven million people, and if you add here a practical period of time, then fourteen million at all.

            That is, the bastard really knew what they would get in the teeth and still climbed

            He is there

            The power of the Red Air Force is estimated at 6000 aircraft. First-line aircraft are divided into 3100 heavy and light bombers and reconnaissance aircraft and 1500 fighters. Bomber weapons prevail over all others, and this proves that the Red Air Force is, first of all, an attack weapon. The idea is that in the event of war, bombers will be able to launch an unexpected attack before the attacked country has time to organize defense. The point of view of Soviet strategists is that the next war will begin without any prior declaration of war

            And this is he to himself and Rezun
    3. +1
      22 August 2012 12: 38
      on earth could
    4. +1
      22 August 2012 15: 15
      And anyway, who counted these guns? So I see how this monster shoots its shells at the guns (there were no machine guns yet), and then everything is scrupulously calculated how many "Ferdinand" destroyed them. What would be left of this gun from a direct hit? I think with planes and tanks the same parsley, in such a meat grinder it would be problematic to calculate the quantity, especially since the aviation did not sleep, I probably wrote more than one hundred to myself.
  5. +3
    22 August 2012 11: 48
    Generally a large mobile pillbox.
  6. +4
    22 August 2012 11: 52
    Thank you for the article. Interesting car. The number of innovations for the wartime machine is amazing. Electric transmission, track rollers with internal shock absorption, unprecedented booking.
    In a word - the Germans. wink
  7. 8 company
    0
    22 August 2012 13: 11
    It is impressive how competently ours began to cope with emerging problems in 1943. compared with 1941. Minesweepers well done: a field with HE mines for heavy tanks - great job!
    1. +1
      22 August 2012 14: 05
      Quote: Company 8
      Sappers well done

      our sappers, and the German climbed.
      And as a friend - if you were preparing for six months, on a relatively narrow section of the front, while having a numerical superiority.

      and everything else as usual past.
    2. +1
      22 August 2012 14: 05
      The 8th company will deal with the conviction of IVStalin, the main weapon against the Wehrmacht’s heavy monsters after 43 is the captured strategic initiative of the Soviet army, the German defense on inactive and heavy b / m lost flexibility and basically the Germans had to throw serviceable but without fuel and b / n cars at unpromising lines since the mobile and numerous Soviet vehicles always found a weak spot and circumvented foci of hard defense. Yes, the sappers did their job, but the Germans were not fools, they were also pioneers and used to pass in a minefield and aviation and artillery.
      1. +1
        22 August 2012 17: 06
        Quote: apro
        8 companies deal with exposing IVS


        Zampolitic past, there's nothing to be done
  8. loc.bejenari
    +4
    22 August 2012 13: 15
    I was more struck by the photo where a 43-year-old fighter in a halingolka
    there were already 42 of them in units, but here the fighter got a rarity
  9. +1
    22 August 2012 13: 35
    Yes, this is the birth of the victorious army.
    quickly solve problems
  10. Drappier
    +3
    22 August 2012 14: 27
    Mastodons of the Great Patriotic. Dimensions are impressive simply.
  11. +1
    22 August 2012 20: 24
    Another experiment of Hitler’s favorite cost a lot to the Germans ...

    Transmission, of course, advanced, but not at all in the subject. How much scarce copper is utterly useless. If the Tiger cost 3-4 T-IV, this miracle would draw, I think for more.

    Throw self-propelled guns in the forefront of a breakthrough, the top of madness. Without developing application tactics ...
    1. +2
      22 August 2012 21: 31
      Quote: Mosen6Ish
      Orogo Germans cost another experiment Hitler's favorite ..


      With tv the same story, the same rake
      1. 0
        22 August 2012 21: 52
        If honestly, I think the Ferdinands have worked their money.
        1. 0
          22 August 2012 23: 09
          It’s unlikely that if this weapon were beneficial it would be mass-produced, and if they released only 90 pieces, then the Germans themselves realized that there was less use for this monster than problems ...
          1. 0
            22 August 2012 23: 15
            Quote: I think so
            it would be mass-produced, and if only 90 pieces were released

            They couldn’t let him out anymore.
            And its release was discontinued BEFORE its combat use and receipt of any confirmation of its fighting qualities.
            1. 0
              22 August 2012 23: 23
              then, after revealing its excellent "fighting qualities", if any, it would be necessary to resume its release. But since this did not happen, then there were no positive combat qualities ...
              1. 0
                22 August 2012 23: 30
                Quote: I think so
                But since this did not happen, then there were no positive fighting qualities ...

                But they did not write off the net as scrap, but continued to use it until 1945 of the year.
                И
                Quote: I think so
                means positive fighting qualities not found

                This does not mean that they did not work out the funds invested in their construction.
                1. 0
                  22 August 2012 23: 39
                  twenty-five again ... If they were justifying their construction they would be mass-produced ... Well, what are you ... inattentive. And to break already built ... not in the character of the Germans, it is rather inherent in the character of the Slavs ... unfortunately ...
                  1. -1
                    22 August 2012 23: 54
                    Quote: I think so
                    Well, what are you ... inattentively

                    Rather, you don’t know about the shortage of copper and electric motors.
                    And you are aware that they were made on the basis of the NOT accepted Porsche Tiger.
                    Quote: I think so
                    If they justified their construction, they would be mass-produced

                    And they, in principle, could not be mass-produced.
                    Quote: I think so
                    twenty five again

                    It is strange that this is so if in two years they worked out the costs of their production and maintenance.
                    1. 0
                      23 August 2012 00: 12
                      thank you for the conversation ... apparently my arguments are not able to break through the armor of your beliefs ... And your words about the "shortage of copper and electric motors" and confirm my doubts about the possibility of "working out the costs of production and maintenance" of these monsters ... Wish you luck.
                      1. 0
                        23 August 2012 10: 00
                        Quote: I think so
                        Your words about the "deficiency of copper and electric motors" and confirm my doubts about the possibility of "working out the costs of production and maintenance


                        They do not confirm by discussion, your opinion is simply strange.
                        They were made and worked out their money; their further production, despite their qualities and shortcomings, was impossible.
                        According to the generalized data, Ferdinandw / Elephants knocked out (namely knocked out) about 2500 tanks of which 400 Anglo-Americans, data for March 1945 (naturally according to German data)
                        Quote: I think so
                        apparently my arguments

                        Unfortunately, these are not observed, except for the fact that they were produced only by the 90 --- exactly by the number of rejected Porsche Tiger chassis.
  12. mind1954
    0
    23 August 2012 02: 27
    Thank you for the article.
    From the memories of a tanker. He stood on a hill in the rear and, as in a dash, shot
    from a great distance our attacking tanks. Shells of our tank
    guns bounced, but from one hit on board the tank detonated
    with fuel located on the inside of the side and a fire started.
    After that, in the following clashes, they tried to shoot at this place!
    1. Prohor
      0
      23 August 2012 16: 59
      Fuel detonation does not happen in principle. Simple fire.
  13. 0
    28 October 2013 22: 10
    In the front of the case were the seats of the driver and radio operator. Behind them, in the center of the machine, two 12-cylinder Maybach HL 120TRM 265 hp liquid-cooled V-engines were installed parallel to each other. (at 2600 rpm) each. The engines rotated the rotors of two Siemens Tour aGV generators, which, in turn, supplied electricity to two Siemens D1495aAC traction motors with a power of 230 kW each

    PPC, perpetual motion machine pisses off to the side, the efficiency of more than 100%
  14. +1
    11 February 2014 22: 10
    Noble beast.

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“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"