Press service of the Luftwaffe of the Bundeswehr: It has been decided to operate the Tornado fighters until 2030

The German Air Force announced that, despite the modernization of the aircraft fleet, they do not intend to abandon the operation of Tornado fighters. It became known that the operation of these combat aircraft in the Luftwaffe decided to extend until 2030. At that time, the fighter from the time of the first flight will be 1 years old, and from the moment it was put into service with the FRG Air Force it is exactly half a century.

Today in Germany there is a program to extend the service life of Tornado fighters. One such fighter went through modernization procedures. The service life of its airframe was increased from 6 to 8 flight hours.

The German media noted that in order to extend the life of the Tornado fighter's airframe, several important structural elements were replaced, including the connecting link between the front and middle parts of the fuselage.

From the report:

Parts that were previously discontinued were created separately.

Bundeswehr Luftwaffe Press Service:

Replacement of important structural parts, such as the annular frame, was carried out on the first aircraft under the program. It was not originally intended that this component would ever be replaced. Therefore, there were no such spare parts.

It is stated that a total of about 400 structural parts are being replaced.

The "rebuilding" of the aircraft was carried out at a Bavarian plant in Manching.

Luftwaffe Press Service:

Based on the federal government's decision, 85 Tornado fighters will remain in service until 2030. This can be achieved if we do a lot of work with this entire fleet of aircraft, which we will try to do.

Comments

[Thrifty]

The owner is a gentleman, they can build a couple of hundred new tornadoes, since finances sing romances, they can even abandon military aviation in favor of drones altogether.

[Vladimir_2U]

It's not old, it's different!

[Runway]

His (Tornado) peers are quite in the ranks. The decision is logical (considering that the Germans are not trying to get the F-35).

[Speedy]

Not really a bad car. Of course, in their configuration, he is not a fighter, but rather a front-line bomber. A comparable su 24 would also be modernized, but we have something to replace and they do not. The fact that the Americans abandoned Form 111 says nothing.

[Cowbra]

I will just hint that against this background, it is amusing to try to demand 2% from the FRG in NATO))) They do not have enough money for airplanes. I remember in Afgan Merkel flew in a private trader - not a single BTA plane could take off from the runway - all were non-flying !!!

[Runway]

The Germans obviously have enough. They are no longer in the first echelon in NATO. The Hans have economic and scientific potential - at the very least, they "saw" their own steamers and other T&V.
In aviation - cooperation with francs.
If you have a good knowledge of the qualitative composition of the air forces of NATO countries (excluding the Yankees), I would be grateful to you for the alignment on the following issues:
- the number of serviceable aircraft IA / IBA / air defense fighters?
- the number of serviceable aircraft - attack / multipurpose and transport helicopters?
I will be very grateful.

[Cowbra]

Well, let's start with the fact that the Germans are obviously NOT enough. And here we have to argue not even with me and the above facts, but with the inspector general of the Bundeswehr, Eberhard Zorn: “How will we explain to Biden when he arrives that the promised money to increase military spending up to 2% of GDP, we simply do not have?»
It's ridiculous in terms of combat-ready ... Well, of course, every day they give me the most secret piece of information on NATO countries - combat readiness in numbers PiSi: but about the fact that all non-flying - the Germans themselves wrote, why Merkel flew on a private trader
And also - I am amused

Quote: WFP

air defense fighters

What kind of animal is this? With some stretch, you can call it Gripen, and then somehow the pressure is big. I don't remember either in the US Air Force. nor in the European Air Force specialized interceptors, like our MiG-31. Even the closest F-15 is not an interceptor. and a fighter of conquest of superiority, not a defense, but an attack ...

[Runway]

Why should I argue with you?
2 + 2 does not work out for you (the questions were perceived naturally linearly, )
Mixed Gripen, 31st and F-15, spiced up the "cocktail" with the "supremacy fighter".
What the Bundeswehr NGSh said was quite natural for a German soldier.

[Sergej1972]

2% not in NATO, but for their military spending. NATO as an organization does not have its own expenses, except for the maintenance of its own apparatus.

[Cowbra]

There, in general, the main point is not just NATO, but the purchase of American weapons. Trump generally broke through, which also as payment for the US presence in Europe. The Germans kicked back. pier we will partially increase. but we will decide what to buy. It is on this occasion that they strongly and barked with the United States, like the French, however. Of course. it will be written down "for the country's military spending", the whole question is where the money will go.
But that's not the point. The fact is that they cannot give 2% either in NATO or for military spending. Which is cool, considering that everyone else is in solidarity with them -

France - 1,84% of GDP, Germany - 1,36%, Netherlands - 1,35%, Italy - 1,22%, Belgium and Spain - 0,92% each

[Sergej1972]

The French produce the overwhelming majority of the weapons themselves, and in the sphere of strategic forces everything is XNUMX% French.

[Zaurbek]

Well, in the Russian Federation, they still use Su24M ... ... this is his classmate ... Only he was both a strike and a fighter.

[Roma 1977]

So, more than 200 Su-34s have already been produced for replacement, and it is not hidden that the remaining Su-24s are simply finalizing their resource.

[Zaurbek]

So they are Typhoons ...... just like Rafal and fighter and strike.

[bayard]

Quote: Roma-1977

More than 200 Su-34s have already been produced.

No more than 124, including those lost in flight accidents and disasters.
They are only planning to bring up to 200 units at the expense of an additional batch of already modernized Su-34Ms ... and while their prototype is not ready, a contract has been signed for a transitional batch of 20 more Su-34s.

[alpamys]

and once the Germans in Space were the first to launch a V2 rocket to an altitude of more than 100 km on October 3.10.1942, XNUMX.

[rotmistr60]

Well, if you look at the list of defense ministers, especially since 2013 - Ursula von der Leyen,
Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, the problem of the Luftwaffe and the Bundeswehr as a whole becomes partially understandable. Rearming, strengthening your own army and "fighting" from the high stands with Russia are two completely different things. I think that our General Staff is completely satisfied with the situation in the German army and the Air Force in particular.

[Sergej1972]

In France, the Minister of Defense is now also a woman, but there are no such problems. In Western countries, defense ministers have different functions.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Germany is once again doing all it can to "send a signal" that she, Germany, is not going to fight Russia at all. Fought to death, for the most tomatoes.

[rocket757]

The German Air Force announced that, despite the modernization of the aircraft fleet, they do not intend to abandon the operation of Tornado fighters.

There are difficult times and it is not known how long they will last ... a smart decision.

[Ros 56]

These Tornadoes have been in operation for 50 years. Have you decided to surpass our An-2? But.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Ros 56

These Tornadoes have been in operation for 50 years. Have you decided to surpass our An-2? But.

No matter how hard the Germans try, they will not surpass the American B-52. He's already in his seventh decade ...

[Ros 56]

An-2 made its first flight in 1948. To date, it has been flying for 73 years.

[three]

A good aeroplane does not spin, 95th gasoline is possible, it hangs in the air for 10 hours. True, sometimes it flies "tail first" in strong winds.

[yehat2]

Quote: tros

A good aeroplane does not spin, 95th gasoline is possible, it hangs in the air for 10 hours. True, sometimes it flies "tail first" in strong winds.

it has many advantages, but most of them are covered by ineffective aerodynamics and a very voracious engine. An-2 is also appreciated, for example, for the fact that it refills itself or can start from the brake - from a very short platform or sharply upwards by 30-40 meters from a short takeoff run.
For modern conditions, it has a frankly low cruising speed - it needs 40-60 more.

[Ros 56]

And how is it - ineffective aerodynamics, by this very

can start from the brake - from a very short area or sharply upwards for 30-40 meters from a short takeoff run.

, you yourself and refute, its aerodynamics is very effective. But compliance with modern requirements, and who creates them, these requirements, yes, lags behind.

[Ros 56]

Do not fly with 40 m / s wind. and everything will be fine.
Py Si Although with such a wind, no one will let you into the air anyway.
Better, no one has created anything and will not create anything, but what they are trying to launch in Sverdlovsk is far behind An-2 in terms of economic indicators.

[yehat2]

a tornado today looks outdated, but if you look closely at how much useful stuff is implemented on it, it will be clear why the Germans hold on to them so much. This is a very easy-to-use complex.

[Roma 1977]

Especially if you don't fight. But the Germans have no one to fight with.

[yehat2]

they struck in Syria, Libya and Afghanistan

[Roma 1977]

In the complete absence of the enemy's air force.

[ironic]

Su-24 aircraft from the same era with the same glider concept.

[voyaka uh]

This is an aircraft for breaking through air defense at an extremely low altitude.
Once upon a time, in the 70-80s of the last century, this was the leading concept.
But the air defense has changed. They manage to shoot down fast low-flying targets.
In Iraq, in Yugoslavia, tornadoes suffered losses from a relatively simple air defense
during shock combat missions.
So the preservation of the Tornado allows Germany only nominally to have
a "decent" number of combat aircraft in service.

[yehat2]

Quote: Sorrow

the fact that the Americans abandoned Form 111 says nothing.

Recently, in connection with the obvious problems of the f-35 and the wear and tear of the b1 in the United States, the question of resuscitation of the f-111 program was raised. I do not know where they came to, but somehow it does not seem that they refused, and the plane of the Americans was quite suitable at one time.

[iouris]

Horror! In the USSR, aircraft rarely survived up to 1000 hours. A new technique came. Do not respect.

[ironic]

They are huddled, all the dough for social programs is not enough. Will squeeze. The aircraft of the Su-24 generation.