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Will surpass the Russian "Iskander": Kiev announced the end of the development of the OTRK "Sapsan"

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Will surpass the Russian "Iskander": Kiev announced the end of the development of the OTRK "Sapsan"

In Kiev, the completion of the development of the Ukrainian operational-tactical missile system "Sapsan" was announced, the country's Ministry of Defense intends to return to the project. This was reported by the press service of the military department.


In 2021, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine plans to sign a contract for the creation of the first experimental division of the Sapsan OTRK. The decision on the planned allocation of funds was made after the commission of the military department visited the Yuzhnoye design bureau in Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), which was engaged in the development of the complex until 2018.

(...) The development of a domestic operational-tactical missile system from the Yuzhnoye design bureau has the highest priority, commensurate with the same Neptune missile system

- stated in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

According to the Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksandr Mironyuk, in order to speed up the process of creating the complex and conducting tests, the first battery will be produced in a reduced composition. It will include two launchers and loaders and two control vehicles. The deputy minister noted that the decision made will allow carrying out all the necessary tests and accelerating the adoption of the OTRK into service.

At the same time, it is emphasized that the complex will be placed on the Tatra chassis, which should become a unified platform for all weapons of the missile forces and artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Earlier, Mironyuk said that in the final version, the Ukrainian Sapsan will surpass the Russian Iskander-M.

Recall that the development of the Ukrainian OTRK "Sapsan" ("Thunder-2") was carried out from 2013 to 2018. The development reached the stage of creating a prototype, which appeared in all photographs of that time. In 2017, Saudi Arabia, for which the complex was allegedly created, stopped funding the project and in 2018 it was frozen, since Ukraine did not have its own funds for development.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 20 February 2021 09: 28
    +11
    A frog in the meadow, seeing an ox! laughing
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 20 February 2021 09: 52
      +18
      Directly Germany at the end of 1944 - promises over weapons! I remember that retribution was laid on the Bulat tank, then they switched to Alder, now to Sapsan ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 February 2021 09: 56
        +8
        Quote: Nasr
        Directly Germany at the end of 1944 - promises over weapons! I remember that retribution was laid on the Bulat tank, then they switched to Alder, now to Sapsan ...

        Another Ukrainian "storyteller" appeared in the firmament - Alexander Mironyuk.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 20 February 2021 10: 06
          +8
          And I'm interested. In what way will this complex surpass our Macedonian one?
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 20 February 2021 12: 10
            +4
            Quote: 210ox
            And I'm interested. In what way will this complex surpass our Macedonian one?

            Shouts - "Peremoga! Glory to the heroes!"
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 20 February 2021 10: 46
        +9
        Quote: Nasr
        Directly Germany at the end of 1944 - promises over weapons!

        In contrast to our statement, in 1944 the production sites of this sphere-super-duper-weapon were bombed for a sweet soul. And now only Israel does it. Why are we worse?
        1. fighter angel
          fighter angel 20 February 2021 11: 12
          +1
          It's high time to do it.
          But to do this, you need to have political will and an iron character.
          And this is exactly what we have not observed so far, unfortunately.
          Therefore, we wrinkle our lips, shine our glasses, and express another concern about our "partners" ...
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 20 February 2021 11: 45
            +14
            Quote: fighter angel
            But to do this, you need to have political will and an iron character.
            And this is exactly what we have not observed so far, unfortunately.

            Can't wait to start a war? Will you volunteer yourself? In 1944 we were at war with Germany, an active war. What do we have with Ukraine today? I think that together with political will and an iron character, a sober brain is also needed. The fact that such proposals do not pass into practice says that we have it.
            1. fighter angel
              fighter angel 25 February 2021 14: 39
              0
              And you don't put pressure on patriotism, don't.
              Is this a "routine preparation" for answering questions of this type?
              I will answer for myself.
              And if they call, order, I will go, you can be sure.
              You are responsible for yourself.
              And now, when everyone will be responsible for himself, and not be afraid to take responsibility for himself, and not nod at others, then there will be business.
              And they will respect us, and provocations will subside ...
              Only something tells me that such an order will not follow soon ...
              And terpilovo, it will not end well.
          2. kit88
            kit88 20 February 2021 11: 49
            +13
            Well, now is the XXI century. Bombed as a last resort.
            But who knows what the GRU is doing there. Maybe that's why they and Bulats all sorts of "do not go" and rockets "do not fly." request
          3. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 20 February 2021 13: 41
            +1
            Quote: fighter angel
            you need to have political will and an iron character.

            Wow... fellow wassat
            Quote: fighter angel
            unfortunately, this is exactly what we have not observed so far.

            It happens, but don't worry - maybe someday you will have:
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      4. venik
        venik 20 February 2021 20: 27
        +5
        Quote: Nasr
        Straight Germany at the end of 1944 - promises over weapons

        =====
        Exactly! good The question remains: WHERE are they going to produce this "wunderwaffe"? Dnepropetrovsk "Yuzhmash" - "lies on its side", Pavlograd Chemical Plant (fuel and engines) - barely breathing ...
        In the "bottom line" there are only "promises" ... Now Ukraine is just "rich" with them (promises of "bright life") !!
        Other "wealth" simply no (and in the foreseeable future - NOT expected!) ..... request
    2. Sibguest
      Sibguest 20 February 2021 09: 58
      +4
      .... croaked, farted (out of fear - hearing her own croak) ... and quietly dived into her swamp.
      1. Installer
        Installer 21 February 2021 01: 07
        +1
        Express express to Magadan
    3. Clear
      Clear 20 February 2021 10: 54
      +10
      Quote: Theodore
      A frog in the meadow, seeing an ox!

      And the gap is right for them yes

      A frog, having seen Vol in the meadow,
      She began to catch up with him in preternity:
      She was envious.
      And puff, puff and pout.
    4. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 20 February 2021 11: 01
      +7
      Quote: Theodore
      A frog in the meadow, seeing an ox!

      Do not underestimate the fascist state on our borders.
      1. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty 20 February 2021 16: 29
        +6
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Don't underestimate the fascist state on our borders

        The soundest comment. Thank.
        And then this hurray-patriotic and arrogant chatter is simply disgusting to read.
        It would be better to think about what they mean when they say that they will surpass Iskander in terms of characteristics.
        For example, one of the characteristics - Maximum target destruction range: 500 km.
        This is almost as much as from the Ukrainian city of Shostka to Moscow (about 560 km).
        That is, if the Ukrainian Sapsan surpasses Iskander by at least 60 km, then it will finish shooting to Moscow.
        This is what the swing is for: there are no ballistic missiles, so the range of operational-tactical missiles must be increased. And if it works out, then in what hands will such a weapon, perfectly suitable for carrying out a serious provocation, fall?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 20 February 2021 16: 43
          +1
          Quote: Hlavaty
          And if it works out, then into what hands will such a weapon, perfectly suitable for carrying out a serious provocation, fall?

          What do you think is easier, to think or to grumble? To laugh at Ukraine, which has 40 million people, and the Russian population (I think Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are one big nation), intoxicated by Nazi propaganda, I consider the height of stupidity.
          1. Quadro
            Quadro 20 February 2021 22: 49
            +2
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Quote: Hlavaty
            And if it works out, then into what hands will such a weapon, perfectly suitable for carrying out a serious provocation, fall?

            What do you think is easier, to think or to grumble? To laugh at Ukraine, which has 40 million people, and the Russian population (I think Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are one big nation), intoxicated by Nazi propaganda, I consider the height of stupidity.

            Nope there 40 lyamas, yap you are not ours. There is a maximum of 27 in terms of consumption. There is no census, just like in Africa. Go give up, they are so strong and scary, uuuu. You are not the case with the leader of the Square hatched? Whatever svidomo, it is sure to be a "communist" who drowns for Navalny.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 21 February 2021 08: 27
              -2
              Quote: Quadro
              Nope there 40 lyamas, yap you are not ours.

              Congratulations lied, you are our hamlo.
              https://index.minfin.com.ua/reference/people/
              http://www.statdata.ru/naselenie-ukraine-chislennost
              Read more and you will be happy.
              Quote: Quadro
              Whatever svidomo, it is sure to be a "communist" who drowns for Navalny.

              I am reading such commentators and I understand that the state has greatly overdone it with the optimization of medicine, neuropsychiatric medical institutions should never be touched.
            2. Hlavaty
              Hlavaty 21 February 2021 11: 12
              -2
              Quote: Quadro
              No, there are 40 lyamas, yap you are not ours. There is a maximum of 27 in terms of consumption.

              Do you think 27 million is not enough? More than enough to cause a lot of trouble.
              Quote: Quadro
              Whatever svidomo, it is sure to be a "communist" who drowns for Navalny.

              Well, here we can only be surprised. You dump Svidomites, communists, Navalny in a heap ... It seems to me that you are completely entangled in your enemies. Maybe it's better to calm down and not be rude to others? We all have the right to our own opinion. And respect.
      2. syndicalist
        syndicalist 20 February 2021 16: 42
        -1
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Do not underestimate the fascist state on our borders.

        Everything is much worse - a fascist state within our borders
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 20 February 2021 16: 51
          -3
          Quote: syndicalist
          Everything is much worse - a fascist state within our borders

          Well, yes, there is a certain grain of truth in your words. Let it be not according to Dmitrov, but there are serious fears that everything is still ahead of us. By the way, in the Stalinist USSR the percentage of acquittals was higher than in the current RF.
  2. Labrador
    Labrador 20 February 2021 09: 32
    +20
    So that they always have a "hammer"!
    1. venik
      venik 20 February 2021 10: 08
      +4
      Quote: Labrador
      So that they always have a "hammer"!

      =======
      And WHAT else (besides the "hammer") can happen in a country that has destroyed (and safely continues to finish off the remnants) of its own industry, scientific and technical personnel, education, and its own people in addition?! request drinks
  3. Svetlana
    Svetlana 20 February 2021 09: 32
    +4
    "Completion of development" is not done. The campaign was again created only in virtual reality.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 20 February 2021 10: 06
      +4
      Quote: Svetlana
      "Completion of development" is not done.

      Yes, "development is finished" is not "development is over". How much to produce there! And something tells me that they will drag on for a long time. For as long as you "finish" - the salary is paid, but once you "finish" - there will be no money right away. Wait for that next order for "development"
  4. Dimka75
    Dimka75 20 February 2021 09: 34
    +5
    Iskander laugh
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 February 2021 09: 58
      +2
      Quote: Dimka75
      Iskander laugh

      If only one "Iskander", even theirs "Hammers" laugh.
  5. Pavel73
    Pavel73 20 February 2021 09: 35
    +7
    And we have "Sapsan" - this is a train ... And they have a wunderwaffle.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 February 2021 09: 59
      +1
      Quote: Pavel73
      And we have "Sapsan" - this is a train ... And they have a wunderwaffle.

      "Peregrine Falcon" is a new series of fairy tales for children.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 20 February 2021 10: 06
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        "Peregrine Falcon" is a new series of fairy tales for children.

        Horror stories? belay
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 20 February 2021 12: 09
          0
          Quote: Nagan
          Horror stories?

          Something like the brothers Grim.
      2. silverura
        silverura 20 February 2021 12: 05
        -3
        "Peregrine Falcon" is a new series of fairy tales for children.

        Нет! No.
        This is no longer a TV series)
        The series for children you missed yesterday called - the Blue Marker pistol. wassat
  6. Cowbra
    Cowbra 20 February 2021 09: 40
    0
    Wait. They have already completely, completely surpassed? So they wrote about Alder. Or will this peregrine falcon be even better than Iskander, but slightly worse than Alder? lol
  7. Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 February 2021 09: 40
    +1
    Neighbors, may be enough to make people laugh?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 20 February 2021 10: 08
      +4
      Quote: Captive
      Neighbors, may be enough to make people laugh?

      Let them laugh! Laughter prolongs life! US! (scientifically proven fact)
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 February 2021 12: 11
        -1
        Quote: Egoza
        Let them laugh! Laughter prolongs life! US! (scientifically proven fact)

        What we are doing is laughing together!
    2. silverura
      silverura 20 February 2021 12: 08
      -2
      Neighbors, may be enough to make people laugh?

      An autobiography is, in many ways, common. Why be surprised then?
  8. megadeth
    megadeth 20 February 2021 09: 40
    -5
    Gazprom for the transit of gas to them billions of dollars (and fines), and they give us OTRK "Sapsan" ...- "Comrades are going the right way !!!! ????"
  9. Thrifty
    Thrifty 20 February 2021 09: 43
    0
    So let them shoot with dummies, they cannot create military weapons, they will be immediately used in the Donbass!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 February 2021 10: 03
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      So let them shoot with dummies, they cannot create military weapons, they will be immediately used in the Donbass!

      Remember yesterday the article was about inflatable targets, boats, etc. So probably this is a continuation of a series of fairy tales - the Sapsan inflatable missile systems.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 February 2021 09: 44
    +4
    You need to understand. There are many remaining developers. They live from hand to mouth. They need to be fed ... This requires high-profile projects. They won't give anything to the quiet ones ... and here's a semi-finished Saudi project. So they "blew off the dust" ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 February 2021 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      You need to understand. There are many remaining developers. They live from hand to mouth.

      And how many of them remain, if people born in 1961 have already retired.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 20 February 2021 12: 20
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And how many of them remain if people born in 1961 have already retired

        There are young people there. I met scientists from Ukraine at conferences. Until the age of 14, they had more or less funding, and the reports were done quite well. Then the collapse ... they survive as best they can. So there are enough people thirsty for funding, and the specialists have not all scattered ... across Poland and others ...
        Many went to Russia. But they are not particularly allowed to enter defense plants.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 20 February 2021 13: 26
          +1
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Until the age of 14, they had more or less funding, and the reports were done quite well.

          That is, there are still those who started working after the collapse in 1991. "Yuzhmash" was, of course, a colossus under the USSR, it was a couple of times before the "Olympics-80". Of course, specialists scattered, one engineer worked as a driver for me. He said that this is a temporary phenomenon, but almost 5 years have passed ...
  11. Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 20 February 2021 09: 48
    +1
    Another loud PR designed for local frostbitten cheers for patriots!
    1. Dimka75
      Dimka75 20 February 2021 12: 00
      +1
      Sounds ambiguous, sorry
  12. Guru
    Guru 20 February 2021 09: 52
    +5
    In 2017, Saudi Arabia, for which the complex was allegedly created, stopped funding the project and in 2018 it was frozen because Ukraine did not have funds for development.
    And now that we have found funds.
  13. venik
    venik 20 February 2021 09: 52
    +3
    "...In Kiev, the end of the development of the Ukrainian operational-tactical missile system "Sapsan" was announced, ..."
    ========
    "Announce" then "announced" ...... In Kiev, a lot of things are "announced" .... And, the further - the more! ..... But of all these "announcements", basically only "and it turns out ... request Moreover, the further, the louder "Bunch..." repeat
  14. yehat2
    yehat2 20 February 2021 09: 58
    +6
    a Soviet rocket, a chassis from the Tatras, the Saudis' money, and of course the Ukrainians did everything and certainly better than the Iskander, whose parameters are known very approximately.
  15. Incomprehensible
    Incomprehensible 20 February 2021 10: 12
    +1
    I sincerely hope that the Kremlin is working hard and relentlessly to de-occupy Ukraine. From that Western "culture" that attacks our brothers!

    Glory to the Monolith!
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 February 2021 10: 18
    +4
    Ukrainian "Sapsan" will surpass the Russian "Iskander-M"
    Who doubts this besides the sane inhabitants of this country themselves? In Ukraine it cannot be, by definition (Ukraine is not Russia), worse than in Russia. The main thing is to find a paint supplier and a creative for the names.
  17. Cotton Colorado
    Cotton Colorado 20 February 2021 10: 20
    +2
    Quote: Svetlana
    "Completion of development" is not done. The campaign was again created only in virtual reality.

    Layouts cost a lot for the Saudis.
    1. Keer
      Keer 20 February 2021 11: 11
      -1
      Mug e, but no beer laughing
  18. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 20 February 2021 10: 21
    +2
    Every single day, something is "created". Until these "inventions" arrive in the troops, the entire army will scatter - some for retirement, others for European toilets and construction sites.
  19. svp67
    svp67 20 February 2021 10: 30
    +2
    And how many launches were made with this rocket, that they are already going to build a solid battery and a division? Or the main thing is
    that the complex will be placed on the Tatra chassis, which should become a unified platform for all weapons of the missile forces and artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    Someone found a "gold mine"?
  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 February 2021 10: 43
    +1
    laughing Yes, make a good face in a bad scenario, only good poker players "can" laughing
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 20 February 2021 10: 50
      +6
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      laughing Yes, make a good face in a bad scenario, only good poker players "can" laughing

      First of all, their "good mine" is designed for their own and Western audiences.
  21. Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 20 February 2021 10: 45
    0
    Well, now all their fish.
    It probably will never end.
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 February 2021 10: 45
    +1
    Quote: Incomprehensible
    I sincerely hope that the Kremlin is working hard and relentlessly to de-occupy Ukraine. From that Western "culture" that attacks our brothers!

    Glory to the Monolith!

    What are the brothers? Such "brothers" eat up the mare in the log. laughing
    1. 113262a
      113262a 20 February 2021 12: 20
      +1
      We say, in Tambov running through the woods! )))
  23. Dave36
    Dave36 20 February 2021 11: 03
    +1
    And why not .. in a single copy can because we are that they use the legacy of the Union. But there is no mass.
  24. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 20 February 2021 11: 24
    +2
    There is nothing technically impossible there.
    Yuzhnoye can make rockets. The control system also has someone and from what. Moreover, they are not under sanctions, they can buy ready-made products.
    The question is organizational and, most importantly, money.
    They recently announced a huge drain of plans, and frigates in Turkey, and planes at Antonov, and Neptune, and so on ... where will they take the money?
  25. rocket757
    rocket757 20 February 2021 11: 28
    +1
    Will surpass the Russian "Iskander": Kiev announced the end of the development of the OTRK "Sapsan"

    why should we listen to / discuss this nonsense?
  26. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 20 February 2021 11: 42
    0
    I would like to remind you that everyone laughed at the Neptune anti-ship missile system and wrote devastating articles, and when the Ukrainians demonstrated the results of hitting the target and began to adopt them, they became despondent and deeply thought that a new reality had come and now they had to reckon with the fact that all of a sudden it can fly on your head in spite of "... all the nuclear power ...". The same can be said about "Vilkha", which of course yields to the commentary of the Russian patriot.
    We must be more serious, and take seriously the development of a potential enemy, practice has shown that the premature and inappropriate Hee-Hee then turns into crocodile tears.
    \
    1. silverura
      silverura 20 February 2021 11: 59
      -3
      I would like to remind you that everyone laughed at the Neptune anti-ship missile system and wrote devastating articles, and when the Ukrainians showed results

      I don't believe you, you are lying! There are no Neptunes, Wilkh, Sapsans!
      Only we have "no analogues", everything else is a bluff!
    2. Katanikotael
      Katanikotael 20 February 2021 15: 32
      0
      They laughed not at Neptune, but at their "own" development from an old rocket. There, by the way, has the guidance head already been corrected, or is everything started without it?
      1. Thorvlobnor IV
        Thorvlobnor IV 20 February 2021 20: 15
        0
        A long time ago they finished that for "Neptune", that for "Sapsan"

  27. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 20 February 2021 11: 56
    0
    Whatever news from 404 is an anecdote laughing
  28. orionvitt
    orionvitt 20 February 2021 12: 30
    +1
    The development has reached the stage of creating a prototype
    This is how it will end. The maximum will show a repainted "Point U", saying that they have invented another "wunderwaffe".
    Ukraine did not have its own funds for development.
    You might think that they have now appeared. laughing
  29. Putnik119
    Putnik119 20 February 2021 13: 10
    +1
    Ukraine every day "creates" either rockets to destroy the Crimean bridge, or tanks of some other crap. Has anyone seen her actually build something? And how do you like the story of how Zelensky presented a machine gun to the prince on his last visit to the Emirates? He presented a machine gun, the prince tried to insert a store into it - it does not fit! I tried to twist the shutter - it stuck! But, of course, a hyperloop with missiles is easy!
  30. sir Galant
    sir Galant 20 February 2021 13: 22
    0
    well finished development - well done. start another wunderwaflu to develop)))) the main thing is to cut money. it is not even necessary to build)
  31. Growlers
    Growlers 20 February 2021 14: 55
    +1
    Everything is "superior" (for some reason, only Russian types of weapons and in Ukrainian fevered minds), all in one or more copies
  32. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 20 February 2021 17: 21
    -1
    guys, let's give up, you're getting better ...
  33. Andrey1966
    Andrey1966 21 February 2021 08: 25
    0
    Raguli now, and especially in March, will be bursting with farts:
    https://news.rambler.ru/troops/45864255-anonsirovany-masshtabnye-ucheniya-vdv-rossii/
  34. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 21 February 2021 17: 51
    0
    It's no longer funny, they really repeat Goebbels, now they are waiting for the wunderwaffe, or rather the grandmothers sawing.
  35. Shadow041
    Shadow041 22 February 2021 22: 15
    0
    The installation in the photo is very similar to the Polonaise received by the RB from China. It's time for the Russian Federation to remind Minsk that nobody has succeeded in sitting with one ass on two chairs and Luka will not succeed