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In the United States crashed training aircraft Northrop T-38 Talon

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In the United States crashed training aircraft Northrop T-38 Talon

In the United States, the Northrop T-38 Talon supersonic trainer plane crashed, killing both crew members. This is reported by Fox News with reference to the statement of the head of the local emergency agency Christina Thornton.


A two-seater T-38 plane crashed near Dannelly Field in Montgomery, where the Alabama National Guard base is also located

- said in a statement.

The incident took place on Friday 19 February evening. A trainer plane, performing a planned flight, for some unknown reason crashed near Montgomery Airport, Alabama. As a result of the crash, both crew members were killed, the data of the pilots have not yet been provided.

It is noted that there are residential buildings near the crash site, but no damage to any structures was noticed. Police, firefighters and a rapid response service are working at the scene.

The Air Force Commission will determine the reasons for the crash and the death of the pilots.

It should be noted that this crash of the Northrop T-38 Talon trainer is far from the first. In 2017-2018, there were several incidents with this aircraft, which also led to the death of the pilots.

The supersonic T-38 Talon twin-seat aircraft are widely used by the US Air Force for training with the 1961 of the year. Production was completed in the 1972 year, according to the official website of the United States Air Force, more than 500 of such vehicles are at the disposal of the military. The length of the aircraft - 14 m, wing span - 7 m, height - 3 m, maximum speed - 1381 km / h.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 20 February 2021 06: 53
    +12
    A piece of iron, to hell with her ...
    Pilots ... personally, of course, I won't gloat.
    But!
    Here, "in all honesty," I have no pity for the military pilots of a country that does not hide its hostility to Russia. Here he does not regret ...
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 20 February 2021 07: 07
      +1
      used by the US Air Force for training since 1961. Production ended in 1972

      Maybe this is the case?
      Condolences to the relatives of the victims
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 20 February 2021 12: 40
        0
        Maybe this is the case?

        In fact, there have been reports of large-scale malfunctions of these aircraft, even of pilots refusing to train and train on them. As far as I remember, one of the problems was the "oxygen plant" constantly failing.
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 20 February 2021 13: 39
        +2
        Relatives sadness ...
    2. Bradley
      Bradley 20 February 2021 07: 41
      -17%
      Here, "in all honesty," I have no pity for the military pilots of a country that does not hide its hostility to Russia. Here he does not regret ...

      Did you know the dead pilots so well that you claim that they did not hide their hostility to Russia?
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 20 February 2021 07: 48
        +10
        Quote: Bradley
        Did you know the dead pilots so well that you claim that they did not hide their hostility to Russia?

        In my opinion, I clearly expressed my idea.
        The pilots, like ordinary people, are a pity, of course.
        Servicemen of an enemy state ... here I have a cognitive dissonance.
        The same story with Indian, Egyptian, even Turkish pilots would have aroused different feelings in me.
        On the other hand, if the plane was taken away from the dwelling and the civilians were rescued, it is definitely heroes for me and "... (ellipsis of doubt)" are discarded.
        All-webs of war, thank God no.
        1. Bradley
          Bradley 20 February 2021 07: 55
          -13%
          In my opinion, I clearly expressed my idea.
          The pilots, like ordinary people, are a pity, of course.


          The same story with Indian, Egyptian, even Turkish pilots would have aroused different feelings in me.

          Why? Indians, Egyptians, even Turks, how are they different from the Americans? Like two arms, two legs, five fingers on them. Why other feelings?

          On the other hand, if the plane was taken away from the dwelling and the civilians were rescued, it is definitely heroes for me and "... (ellipsis of doubt)" are discarded.

          Heroes. And if they had not taken away, then who?

          All-webs of war, thank God no.

          So I'm talking about, too, there is no war, but you write about the "enemy State".

          Don't get me wrong, I'm just wondering why one or more conventions affect the final output so much.
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 20 February 2021 08: 00
            +6
            Quote: Bradley
            Indians, Egyptians, even Turks, how are they different from the Americans?

            Because they are not ENEMIES! They are not being prepared for a war with Russia.
            Quote: Bradley
            And if they had not taken away, then who?
            Then I have "mixed feelings".
            Quote: Bradley
            but you write about the "enemy State".

            That is, according to you, "the US state friendly to Russia"?
            Yeah uzhzhzh ... Such "friends" for Faberge - yes to the museum!
            1. Bradley
              Bradley 20 February 2021 08: 09
              -13%
              Because they are not ENEMIES! They are not being prepared for a war with Russia.

              How do you know? Did you serve in Egypt or Turkey?
              The army is taught to fight, and with whom and when, it is not the pilots who decide. They are given basic knowledge, improve their qualifications and practice tactics, including against us. But this does not mean that they are enemies.

              That is, in your opinion, the US state is friendly to Russia?

              But not hostile, as you wrote. A rival, yes, but not an enemy. Here we will have a war with them, then they will be enemies. Is it logical? It is logical.


              Take China for example. Do you think they exclude a conflict with us? If not, then they are preparing for such a conflict (collecting data, finding targets to strike, developing a strategy). And that's okay.
              Is China an enemy State? Not.
              1. Victor_B
                Victor_B 20 February 2021 08: 12
                +2
                Quote: Bradley
                How do you know? Did you serve in Egypt or Turkey?

                I propose to end this fruitless discussion.
                For example, I don’t feel sorry for a single Ukrainian warrior who died during the CIVIL war in Donbass!
                1. Bradley
                  Bradley 20 February 2021 08: 44
                  -6
                  I propose to end this fruitless discussion.

                  As you wish.
              2. Free wind
                Free wind 20 February 2021 09: 07
                -4
                China is enemy number ONE!
          2. bober1982
            bober1982 20 February 2021 08: 21
            +3
            Quote: Bradley
            but you write about the "enemy State".

            In my opinion, such news from the life of "enemy states" should be treated neutrally, there is no need to rejoice, but there is nothing to grieve either. I feel sorry for a stray kitten.
            Always interesting, purely technical - how the catastrophe happened, what is the reason, what were the actions, etc.
            1. Bradley
              Bradley 20 February 2021 08: 46
              -3
              In my opinion, such news from the life of "enemy states" should be treated neutrally, there is no need to rejoice, but there is nothing to grieve either. I feel sorry for a stray kitten.

              So.

              Always interesting, purely technical - how the catastrophe happened, what is the reason, what were the actions, etc.

              Yes, the reason itself is interesting. Most likely the human factor.
          3. URAL72
            URAL72 20 February 2021 09: 28
            +6
            And who said there is no war? Study literature. For a long time there has been a 6th generation war against Russia. It doesn't matter to me whether NATO aircraft is causing us tens of billions of dollars of damage, or the sanctions of these countries. Putin is only to blame for stopping the fall of Russia. Then they began to press. Magnitsky, and then you know. You can always find a reason or come up with it. The West does not need the state of Russia at all, let alone an independent and armed state.
        2. Free wind
          Free wind 20 February 2021 14: 30
          0
          I do not consider the Americans as enemies, but the Chinese are seizing our territories, well, just suck with them, warriors.
          1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
            Uncle Vanya Susanin 20 February 2021 19: 26
            0
            Where do they seize our territories?
        3. ironic
          ironic 20 February 2021 19: 09
          -2
          The Turkish pilots are not hostile, but one of them shot down a Russian plane. Well, everything is clear in short.
    3. Anar
      Anar 20 February 2021 10: 17
      +2
      I agree but with a reservation. There is no pity for those who are preparing to kill, regardless of religion, confession and nationality. Learning to kill, ready to be killed ...
      1. ironic
        ironic 20 February 2021 19: 10
        -1
        Russian pilots don't learn to kill?
        1. Anar
          Anar 20 February 2021 19: 35
          0
          It makes no difference what country, what profession, even a pilot or a simple staff officer (only a pity for the soldiers, they are in the service of captivity). An officer who has chosen service as a profession must understand that he will have the task of killing, for this he receives money. That is, the officers are the same mercenaries but legal. So if they are preparing to kill, let them be ready to be killed, and not many of them feel sorry for them. They chose their own path in life, and the path of violence ...
          1. ironic
            ironic 20 February 2021 20: 12
            0
            You forgot to add - in the war. And this greatly changes the semantic and moral load.
    4. ironic
      ironic 20 February 2021 19: 07
      -1
      Well, you could have missed this moment. So far, these pilots have not done anything bad to the "hostile" country.
  2. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 20 February 2021 06: 53
    +4
    The T-38 Talon two-seat supersonic aircraft have been widely used by the US Air Force for training since 1961.

    The old man, however. Anything could happen.
    It is noted that there are residential buildings near the crash site

    Perhaps they took the emergency car away, but did not have time to eject themselves
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 20 February 2021 06: 58
      +3
      Quote: Lipchanin
      Perhaps they took the emergency car away, but did not have time to eject themselves

      If so, then for me - heroes!
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 20 February 2021 07: 11
        +2
        Quote: Victor_B
        If so, then for me - heroes!

        Yes, not only for you
        How they fell did not see. All I saw was smoke.
        The next day with friends were at the crash site
  3. Kerensky
    Kerensky 20 February 2021 07: 00
    +6
    Production completed in 1972

    There are no miracles. It's amazing that with such a budget, these machines are "finished off". And together with the instructors (which is also a piece product).
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 February 2021 07: 01
    +3
    In 2017-2018, there were several incidents with this aircraft, which also led to the death of the pilots.
    It is strange that previous accidents were accompanied by the death of pilots. Maybe the problem is in the rescue systems (bailout)?
    For Lipchanin:
    Perhaps they took the emergency car away, but did not have time to eject themselves
    In any case, the instructor must order the second to eject.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 20 February 2021 07: 13
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In any case, the instructor must order the second to eject.

      So they wrote it themselves
      Maybe the problem is in the rescue systems (bailout)?
  5. evgen1221
    evgen1221 20 February 2021 07: 55
    +1
    Isolated cases in any army happen and this is common. Now, if massively began to be buried, that is, over something to break the spears from the sofa.
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 February 2021 07: 56
    +2
    Well, it happens. This is aviation.
  7. Cowbra
    Cowbra 20 February 2021 08: 27
    +1
    All of them are already half a century old, and the TCB is always chased in the tail and in the mane. It was time to change
  8. Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 February 2021 08: 59
    0
    It happens. It's good that they are not ours. It’s a pity for the parents, but it’s not the Boeing who learned to fly and didn’t train the fields with herbicides.
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 February 2021 09: 02
    0
    The force of gravity or Newton's law? No, rather, there is no money for a normal training plane.
  10. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 20 February 2021 09: 32
    +4
    I ran through the comments and did not notice anything about Biden's personal guilt. Not about the most advanced country that cannot replace the Northrop T-38 Talon with the Boeing T-7 Red Hawk. Forcing their pilots to fly on planes twice their age. With the world's largest military budget.
    1. ironic
      ironic 20 February 2021 19: 15
      -1
      I agree. It's just too early to blame Biden. But the top of the Air Force is quite possible.
      1. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 21 February 2021 09: 10
        +1
        Well, at least Trump laughing When our plane crashes, local "gyneralisimus" and honorary commentators immediately come to the unequivocal opinion that the people in high offices and the president personally are to blame for the situation. And when the plane crashes in the United States, they are silent as deaf and dumb.
        1. ironic
          ironic 21 February 2021 12: 30
          -1
          In the USA, it is really rather the Ministry of Defense and the Senate, which approves or not the corresponding projects. But these are also tall offices, yes.
  11. ironic
    ironic 20 February 2021 19: 13
    0
    This car is long overdue for rest. I don't understand why it is necessary to be so curious. The US Air Force office is clearly not poor.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 20 February 2021 21: 14
      0
      F35 is not enough to repair! What nafig new training!
      1. ironic
        ironic 20 February 2021 21: 22
        -1
        For service, I guess. You were not mistaken in a word? I missed Schaub as much as the US Air Force.
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 20 February 2021 21: 41
          0
          And for repairs, including the problem of preserving anti-radar coverage. The maintenance costs were calculated at the design stage. If these costs have increased significantly, it is only due to unforeseen repairs. hi
          1. ironic
            ironic 20 February 2021 22: 09
            0
            Which exists to a much greater extent in posts on the VO forum than in practice. We already have a whole wing of these birds flying and the only fixed problem was when it collided with a bird, but that's all.
            And I did not claim that they have increased, this is your personal assumption.
            1. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 21 February 2021 21: 42
              0
              Okay I confess: I DON'T LIKE both FU 35 and FU 117! They are from the genus of penguins. Another thing is SU 57, SU 35, SU 27, MiG 35, F 22, F 15, F 16, Lavochkin, Yaki, Ily, Airacobra, Devil's cat (Hellcat) and many others, for example Mirage 2000.
              1. ironic
                ironic 21 February 2021 21: 57
                -4
                Well, you know, when the F-15 or Mig-31 are called beautiful planes, I can understand, but when they try to present humpbacked Drying as the top of aesthetics, my soul of an amateur photographer rises in all respects. And the Mirage is, in general, something like these arrows with plumage, that in a bar they whale in a circle having gathered beer. Aaa so-so Airacobra, Hellcat, Lavochkin and Focke-Wulf - aesthetically sucks. Here the Mustang still did not go where.
                1. sharp-lad
                  sharp-lad 21 February 2021 22: 40
                  0
                  Well, there is no comrade for color and taste. request
  12. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 20 February 2021 20: 09
    -3
    The plane is a pity. I like him. And spit and grind on the pilots. Minus two enemies is already a plus.
    1. ironic
      ironic 20 February 2021 21: 27
      0
      Enemies are only on the battlefield. In all other cases, there are opponents. Morale passed.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 20 February 2021 21: 29
        -2
        Yeah. Let us mourn the lost military pilots of the country that directly calls Russia the enemy. Can we still be sad about the Nazis?
        1. ironic
          ironic 20 February 2021 21: 40
          0
          Official statement from the US administration to the studio. And who else can we compare with the Nazis? You don't want to replace the Nuremberg Tribunal with yourself?
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat 20 February 2021 21: 49
            0
            Are you missing the mattress official statements? Your business, of course, but I prefer not to creep in front of the enemy, grieving for his losses, but to beat him. It is desirable until complete destruction.
            And you can continue to grieve that a couple of vultures have died, that mattress bombers do not dare to fly over Russia and the NATO trash continues to urinate in diapers at the thought that they will be sent back to fight against Russia. smile
            1. ironic
              ironic 20 February 2021 22: 22
              +1
              There is not enough because there are no such statements from officials. I do not live in Russia and am not a citizen of Russia, but in this case it does not matter. Statements about the beating of the enemy until complete destruction in peacetime, in the presence of full-fledged diplomatic relations between the Russian Federation and the United States, are fully drawn to fanning military hysteria and incitement to war.
              First, characterize the submarine of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, which violates the water state border for 8 km of a sovereign country, which is in a state of full-fledged peace and progressing trade relations with the Russian Federation. And then name the American bomber, where and when has violated the borders of the Russian Federation (the USSR cannot be cited as an example) since the republic gained sovereign statehood?
              Are you sure that everyone is pissing in diapers from the mere mention of the Russian Federation and its army? Does your great-power chauvinism in the field of the administration of natural necessities press you? And besides dreams about the war with Russia, what other dreams do you know?