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The terms of the return to the combat composition of the Baltic Fleet TFR "Neustrashimy" project 11540

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The terms of the return to the combat composition of the Baltic Fleet TFR "Neustrashimy" project 11540

Patrol ship Undaunted Project 11540 code "Hawk" will return to the Baltic fleet after a lengthy renovation in 2021. Ilya Samarin, general director of the Baltic shipyard Yantar, told TASS about this.


2021 will be the year of ship upgrades. We must (...) complete the deep modernization of the escort ship Undaunted

- said Samarin.

The watchdog has been under repair since 2014, initially it was planned to return to service at the end of 2016, but during the defect detection, the need for a large amount of additional work was identified and the ship's repair was extended. Also, a big delay in the repair of the ship was caused by the repair of the propulsion system of the ship, made in Ukraine, the turbines were sent for repair to aviation plant in Samara.

The date of delivery of the ship was postponed several times, from the beginning from 2016 to 2018, then to 2019, then to the middle of last year, and now a new date has been announced - 2021.

"Fearless" - Project 11540 lead patrol ship "Yastreb", built in 1993 on board "Yantar". The main purpose is the search, detection, tracking and destruction of enemy submarines, anti-ship and anti-submarine defense of warships and ships at sea, strikes against underwater and surface targets at sea and bases, support for combat operations of ground forces, providing landing, as well as for cover forces of amphibious assault.

The ship's displacement is 3590 tons, speed up to 30 knots, autonomy for 30 days, crew of 210 people. In service: AK-100 artillery mount, Dagger, Dagger, 533 torpedoes, millimeters, Ka-27 helicopter. Whether the ship will be re-equipped during the repair process has not been previously reported.
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 19 February 2021 12: 13
    +11
    The ship is handsome and fighter.
    At one time it was a very sharp-toothed ship, surpassing all comparable foreign counterparts. Now, of course, it is outdated, but, God forbid, it will still serve the Motherland.
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 19 February 2021 12: 25
      +18
      "Undaunted" BO "returns to the fleet" every year, it has already become a tradition like "every year we go to the bathhouse with men."
      https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.topwar.ru/148641-skr-neustrashimyj-proekta-11540-vernetsja-na-baltflot-v-2019-godu.html
      1. Sofa
        Sofa 19 February 2021 13: 19
        +9
        This is for sure and the upgrade is 7 years old !!!!!! The aircraft carrier is being built and put into service for such a period, and a ship with such a displacement in China will probably be ready for a new one in a year. will be accepted.
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 19 February 2021 13: 25
          +10
          The watchdog has been under repair since 2014,
          six years old damn it! SIX ! During this time, the Turks ukram signed at least two ships to build ... it is clear that the next "jerk" ... laces ... ankle boots ... arthritis ...
        2. lopuhan2006
          lopuhan2006 19 February 2021 13: 30
          +5
          Quote: Couch
          This is for sure and the upgrade is 7 years old !!!!!! The aircraft carrier is being built and put into service for such a period, and a ship with such a displacement in China will probably be ready for a new one in a year. will be accepted.

          I heard that there was cannibalism in favor of another sister ship Yaroslav. Plus engine repair at a non-core company. More subcontractors, more approvals. Everyone wants to eat, so there is a boat.
        3. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 19 February 2021 14: 37
          -1
          In the text, the reasons for the delay are indicated - problems with the case and the engine.

          Why compare all this with the serial construction of ships on time ?!

          If there is no engine for the ship, can you quickly repair it? Not.

          Or maybe you will make a new engine without having either the capacity for construction or documentation for it, nothing at all ?! Also no.

          So what's the reason for your whining?

          Be glad that this ship can be returned to service at all !!!
          1. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 19 February 2021 14: 50
            +6
            And what is the reason for the annual pretentious story that is about? Maybe you need to talk - after 2 years and do it .. or just keep silent since there are no engines .. and this is "whining" as you called it, just the discontent of adequate people with untruths that are "poured" into their ears every year ...
            1. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 19 February 2021 14: 58
              +3


              And what is the reason for the annual pretentious story that is about? Maybe you need to talk - in 2 years and do it ..


              Where and what pathos did you see?

              Interview with TASS !!! The journalist asked, he was answered based on the situation that exists, circumstances can change and if you are really interested / interested in a topic related to weapons, you would be aware that this happens always and for everyone.

              How many "Zamvolts" in the US said they will do? Something for 30 pieces, but only 3 pieces were made.

              So what were they chatting about ?!

              So the plans were, and then changed.
          2. Sofa
            Sofa 19 February 2021 15: 28
            +3
            Yes, with the new ones, for example, Ivan Gren, for example, how much did they take?
            1. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 19 February 2021 15: 43
              0
              BDK Ivan Gren is the lead ship in the project of which changes were often made, something was altered, and therefore delays.

              The first serial large landing craft, Pyotr Morgunov, is very different from him, and the following types of Vladimir Andreev generally have only a numerical code in common with him, and by design they are completely different ships.
              1. Sofa
                Sofa 19 February 2021 16: 57
                +1
                Yes, this is all clear, only the situation with the BDK is catastrophic, it is necessary not to make changes, but to stamp them.
                1. Nikon OConor
                  Nikon OConor 19 February 2021 20: 54
                  +2
                  "Stamp" - this term can be attributed to the maximum of the T-34, Then each product is built, tested and completed. And in Russian history, ships have never been stamped.
                  1. Sofa
                    Sofa 20 February 2021 08: 14
                    0
                    You know, when there are not enough ships, the term "stamping" is just appropriate. According to your logic, "ships have never been stamped" as it should be, I totally disagree with you at the wrong time, the fleet does not have enough ships in the sea and ocean zones. Therefore, you need to refuse from the construction of small brawlers and karakurt, because the United States withdrew from the drone and lay at least 22350 in large quantities and a large-scale artillery complex such as Ivan Gren. This is not only my opinion.
                2. Ratmir_Ryazan
                  Ratmir_Ryazan 19 February 2021 22: 11
                  +1
                  Why build ships that do not meet the requirements of the fleet?
                  1. Overlock
                    Overlock 19 February 2021 22: 59
                    +20
                    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                    Why build ships that do not meet the requirements of the fleet?

                    Probably, the General Staff of the Navy thinks differently
                    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                      Ratmir_Ryazan 20 February 2021 15: 35
                      0
                      That is why they made so many changes to the 11711 project and made a bunch of alterations that, as a result, 2 and 3 serial ships, even outwardly, will differ greatly from it.

                      And here some comrades suggest simply stamping out what is and not improving anything.
                      1. Sofa
                        Sofa 21 February 2021 18: 21
                        0
                        And such comrades as you are satisfied with two new large landing ships for four fleets and two who will not know when they will accept.
                3. Ratmir_Ryazan
                  Ratmir_Ryazan 21 February 2021 09: 39
                  0
                  Whatever the situation, it is necessary to make ships that are needed by the fleet and satisfy its requirements, and not just churn out something that is not clear and it is not clear why.
                  1. Sofa
                    Sofa 21 February 2021 18: 27
                    0
                    We have a Soviet-built BDK, they are many years old, as you say. There is nothing to replace them with now. "What the fleet needs" I do not even want to list.
              2. Sanguinius
                Sanguinius 20 February 2021 22: 05
                +2
                Well head and what's next !? Yeah, yes, build a ship with an approved TTZ and change it during construction, who is doing this well explain (11711) !? There is absolutely no difference between Gren and Morgunov! So the delays in construction are absolutely incomprehensible, what the head large landing craft is what the next, Morgunov!
                Well, they were going to build 30 Zumvalts, in the end they realized that this ship was not rolling and, recognizing this, canceled the further series. But we have, as they say, seven Fridays a week!
        4. Overlock
          Overlock 19 February 2021 22: 57
          +21
          Quote: Couch
          When will our shipbuilders begin to build normally and on time?

          The problem is complex. Judging by Peter, the situation with personnel at shipyards is awful:
          - JSC "Admiralty Shipyards" - announced in February the opening of more than 200 vacancies in blue-collar specialties with a salary of up to 120 thousand - a record for the industry and twice the average level of wages in the city's manufacturing industry. But there are no volunteers;
          - the head of the Vyborg shipyard (VSZ), which builds fishing trawlers and icebreakers for the FSB: 500 workers are missing;
          - North shipyard: shortage of 1000 people.
          I think that Yantar also has this problem.
          If before the pandemic shipyards were vigorously importing workers from Ukraine, now it is impossible to bring specialists from there. And Ukrainians are no longer eager to go to Russia: in Poland, in the Baltic countries, wages at shipyards are higher than in Russia. Local search is not successful.
          1. bk316
            bk316 20 February 2021 13: 24
            +2
            - JSC "Admiralty Shipyards" - announced in February the opening of more than 200 vacancies in working specialties with a salary of up to 120 thousand -

            Of course, it's easy to write from the couch without knowing anything about the actual situation (I'm not talking about you).
            I know about the Admiralty first-hand how things are for many years.
            If you look at my comments, you will see how I wrote to the whiners that production is developing and there are always vacancies at the Admiralty.
            And this is not because everyone is running, on the contrary, even pensioners are kept - just production is growing and new personnel are needed. And where to get them? In principle, the Admiralty ones grow their own, but this is not enough.
            What am I doing? Besides the fact that they are pumping money into shipbuilding both military and civil - the capacities are scheduled for many years ahead. Sooner or later this will have an effect and we will start not only "baking like cakes" from Warsaw, but also destroyers.
            And if you look more broadly, you can clearly see a pattern, those enterprises and entire sectors that suffered less than others for various reasons in the 90s (Almaz-Antey, Admiralieyskie, KRET, ROSATOM) are now quite normally giving out products "to the mountain".
            The main thing is to listen less to the liberals "about the people who have been taken away from the pensioners" and all the supporters "nothing will be stolen from everyone" and continue to follow the chosen course.
            1. Asad
              Asad 21 February 2021 12: 11
              0
              Yes, they took it away! I am not at all happy to retire five years later! Have you tried looking for money in other places?
              1. bk316
                bk316 4 March 2021 14: 07
                -1
                Did you try to look for money in other places?

                Are you talking about other places?
                I don’t get money from the budget, I support several people like that for state employees (my personal income tax is not enough for a few whiners) and I support a few more pensioners, because my deductions are far beyond the bar. Do you know what it is when I pay 80 thousand to the Pension Fund every month and my pension will be 30? This is UNJUSTICE.
                So I don’t whine am that I have to support you.
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            3. Sofa
              Sofa 21 February 2021 22: 16
              0
              good "I'm not talking about you" -and about myself lol
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 19 February 2021 13: 26
      +4
      There is only one question for repairs - will the Uranus be delivered or not. hi
  2. Piramidon
    Piramidon 19 February 2021 12: 15
    +19
    The watchdog has been under repair since 2014

    Before that I read how many NEW ships the Chinese "baked" during this time. I felt sad. recourse
    1. prior
      prior 19 February 2021 12: 18
      +14
      The Chinese breed corvettes, we breed millionaire bribery.
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 19 February 2021 12: 28
        +3
        Quote: prior
        we breed bribe-takers-millionaires.

        The country needs heroes, and the female reproductive organ is fertile, you know who. By the way, it can be seen on the forum in recent years. It's scary to read the comments. Russia, Th is already there.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 19 February 2021 12: 40
          -3
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          By the way, it can be seen on the forum in recent years. It's scary to read the comments.

          So our fault is in this.
          1. Bashkirkhan
            Bashkirkhan 19 February 2021 12: 42
            +3
            Quote: tihonmarine
            So our fault is in this

            I do not disclaim responsibility for the content of the comments, of course we ourselves are to blame, and not someone else.
      2. Civil
        Civil 19 February 2021 13: 11
        +4
        Quote: prior
        The Chinese breed corvettes, we breed millionaire bribery.

        Do you want both in Ukraine?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 19 February 2021 15: 17
          +27
          Quote: Civil
          Do you want both in Ukraine?

          Can't it be like in Germany or Sweden? laughing
          1. Civil
            Civil 19 February 2021 15: 21
            0
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Civil
            Do you want both in Ukraine?

            Can't it be like in Germany or Sweden? laughing

            What do you want gay Europeans to live here? They got rich robbing their colonies ... Russia doesn't need that kind of money. lol
            1. Sofa
              Sofa 19 February 2021 18: 35
              +3
              A standard of living like in Germany and Sweden we want with our natural resources good
              1. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 19 February 2021 20: 51
                -2
                Quote: Couch
                as in Germany and Sweden we want

                He who drowns as will burst. yes And want everything much, yeah. One unknown organism left a similar summary on the wall in the underpass at Vyborgskaya: "I want to never work and sleep with hoes." fellow laughing
                1. Sofa
                  Sofa 19 February 2021 22: 52
                  +1
                  To want is not harmful, it is harmful not to want. Live for a month for a month, maybe a different opinion will be. I doubt it will just have to dig well. And although okay, that's not the topic of the article.
              2. Xenaro
                Xenaro 19 February 2021 21: 21
                -3
                But basically, a high standard of living leads to degradation. From some level of passing wealth through the tract of the throat-asshole irreversibly affects the person.
              3. Overlock
                Overlock 19 February 2021 23: 00
                +24
                Quote: Couch
                A standard of living like in Germany and Sweden we want with our natural resources

                Then there won't be enough bread for Putin's friends
      3. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 19 February 2021 14: 42
        -5
        Are they building new corvette in Russia? Maybe Russia is not building new frigates, minesweepers, UDC, BDK, submarines, including nuclear ones?

        Or do you, in some miraculous way, Russia should build more ships than China with its # 2 economy in the world and 1,5 billion people ?!

        Not so long ago in China they took for corruption an official whose home had more gold than the gold reserves of some countries of the world !!! So, they are not doing well either.

        So, there is no need to shed the tears of a cracodile.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 19 February 2021 15: 02
          +24
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          China with its # 2 economy in the world and 1,5 billion people ?!

          And how did he achieve this?
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Not so long ago in China they took for corruption an official whose home had more gold than the gold reserves of some countries of the world !!!

          How it ends for him:
          1.shot
          2.rewarding
          3.a promotion? laughing
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 19 February 2021 15: 05
            -7



            And how did he achieve this?



            They worked, not whined like you.

            There have been shootings in China for a long time, but officials there steal no less than in Russia, judging by such arrests.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 19 February 2021 15: 16
              +25
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              They worked, not whined like you.

              This is not my address. My experience is 40 years. And yours?
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              but officials there steal no less than in Russia, judging by such arrests.

              There is complete confidence that he will not need this gold in this world anymore and that is good. And we would have received an order or moved to academicians, but this is bad.
              1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 19 February 2021 15: 35
                -1
                And I am 40 years old in total and since the age of 16 I either served in the army (mostly in Chechnya, 9 years old) or worked.

                There is a certainty that those who can and cannot steal in China, and shootings are a way to eliminate political competitors or simply objectionable ones.

                And we have a court, a multiple fine and significant terms for the thieving officials and security officials.

                Isaev, the plenipotentiary representative and the former governor of the Khabarovsk Territory, was recently convicted. The verdict is mild, not executions, a suspended sentence, but he is 72 years old, he compensated for the damage caused, and a fine was also imposed.

                Moreover, he was convicted of his affairs when he was in the management of Rosneft, according to his own security service.

                As you can see, even orders and previous merits do not make discounts.
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 19 February 2021 18: 02
                  +29
                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  And I'm only 40 years old

                  you see. Mom and Dad designed you, and I already worked.
                  So your message
                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  They worked, not whined like you.

                  try on yourself. And be more modest, you are our hardworking
                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  and from the age of 16 I either served in the army (mostly in Chechnya, 9 years old) or worked.

                  commendable and what ...? Everyone here working ... except you laughing
                  1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                    Ratmir_Ryazan 19 February 2021 22: 12
                    -4
                    I still work and do not whine, why somewhere, something more.
    2. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 19 February 2021 12: 19
      -10%
      Can Russia populate with Chinese?
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 19 February 2021 12: 29
        +3
        The Chinese, like us, have serious problems with demography. The country is aging, and soon the population will begin to decline. A total of 15-16 million newborns per year. And this is in a country with a population of 1 billion 400 million people. The situation is the same for the Japanese and South Koreans. Poor North Koreans, on the other hand, do well.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 19 February 2021 12: 33
          0
          problems with women in China
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 19 February 2021 12: 39
            +1
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            problems with women in China

            Maybe there is, but when I was there, I did not notice.
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 19 February 2021 12: 59
              +1
              Not all information can be obtained from personal observations, especially in such a giant country. They are really skewed. The Chinese authorities and demographers are sounding the alarm: there are more grooms than brides, and all this against the background of low birth rates and at the same time, a fairly long life expectancy.
            2. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 19 February 2021 13: 04
              +3
              a lot of brides are brought from the nearest poor countries, from the Philippines a lot
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 19 February 2021 13: 45
                -3
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                from the Philippines a lot

                From / to are also available.
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 19 February 2021 17: 20
            +2
            And with them there are problems everywhere :)
            And their birth rate is not falling because of this, or rather, not only because of this. The main reason is urbanization and technological progress. The birth rate is high in countries with agricultural economies. In countries where you need to study under 30 and then make a career, and where both partners must work to live with dignity, there can be no high birth rate.
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 20 February 2021 08: 10
              0
              is it ??? here we have no problems, so many women in Russia from 25 to 35 are not married, only men do not really run to create families
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 20 February 2021 12: 13
                0
                really ???

                Well, yes, problems with them, well, that is, with you everywhere, they are just different everywhere :)
                only men don't really run to create families

                And this is just a direct consequence of the development of society as well. And the same second side of the coin of problems with women :)
          3. Overlock
            Overlock 19 February 2021 23: 01
            +22
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            problems with women in China

            The problem with women everywhere, especially of childbearing age
        2. Koval Sergey
          Koval Sergey 19 February 2021 13: 05
          +19
          The standard of living rises - the birth rate falls
    3. Alien From
      Alien From 19 February 2021 12: 20
      0
      The tempo is our modern magician ...
    4. Doccor18
      Doccor18 19 February 2021 12: 31
      +7
      Quote: Piramidon

      Before that I read how many NEW ships the Chinese "baked" during this time. I felt sad. recourse

      What is there to compare ...
      They only have a GDP 7 times larger than ours, although this does not really reflect the difference between the two economies. China produces more in a variety of industries than the rest of the world put together ...
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 19 February 2021 13: 02
        +1
        Once upon a time, from the beginning of the 20th century to the 50s and 60s, and in the United States, production in many industries exceeded similar production in all countries of the world.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 19 February 2021 13: 08
          +5
          Quote: Sergej1972
          Once upon a time, from the beginning of the 20th century to the 50s and 60s, and in the United States, production in many industries exceeded similar production in all countries of the world.

          And?
          The United States is to this day the most influential country in the world. It is able to arrange financial pressure on any state, imposes sanctions against countries, has the largest military budget ... ... although a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since the 60s ...
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 19 February 2021 13: 11
            +4
            I totally agree with you. But the fact is that the share of the United States in world industrial production has fallen sharply over the past 50-60 years.
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 19 February 2021 13: 21
              +1
              Quote: Sergej1972
              But the fact is that the share of the United States in world industrial production has fallen sharply over the past 50-60 years.

              That's a very difficult question.
              Even if all Apple or Tesla factories are removed from the USA, these companies will not become poorer and weaker, if not vice versa ...
              The economy of the past 40 years has been so transformed that these mechanisms are more and more difficult to understand ...
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 19 February 2021 12: 37
      +1
      Quote: Piramidon
      Before that I read how many NEW ships the Chinese "baked" during this time. I felt sad.

      Yes, quite a long renovation. It's time to get out of this impasse.
    6. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 19 February 2021 13: 27
      0
      Quote: Piramidon
      The watchdog has been under repair since 2014

      Before that I read how many NEW ships the Chinese "baked" during this time. I felt sad. recourse

      salt on the wound ...
  3. V.I.P.
    V.I.P. 19 February 2021 12: 17
    +8
    6 years under repair and not re-equipped? If so, then we can say for sure: "has no analogues in the world"))))
  4. cniza
    cniza 19 February 2021 12: 36
    -1
    It was not previously reported whether the ship will be rearmed during the repair process.


    It should, it's logical and cheaper ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 19 February 2021 14: 13
      +5
      There, on the Abaza, they are guessing - will they put the X35 or will it remain the dove of peace? According to the last photos, there was no work on the site.
  5. Volder
    Volder 19 February 2021 12: 48
    +2
    In 2021, the modernization of the ship will be completed. This will be followed by a series of tests - starting from mooring and ending with state ones. And this already, you know, will stretch for 2022.
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 19 February 2021 12: 50
    +6
    Is it too early to finish the renovation decided? wassat It takes at least five more years to think about the need for its rearmament, three years to select the weapon that needs to be put on it, then it will rust through and through, and you can safely write off. .. lol
  7. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 19 February 2021 13: 04
    0
    According to modern classification, is it a corvette or a frigate?
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 19 February 2021 13: 31
      +2
      Quote: Sergej1972
      According to modern classification, is it a corvette or a frigate?

      Of course the frigate.
      Too "fat" for a corvette winked
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 19 February 2021 14: 15
      +5
      Patrol ship. For now all frigates are URO by default. And he doesn't even have an anti-ship missile. And it's not a fact that the X35 will be screwed like the Wise, because last year there were photos of just the sites and there were no farms there and there was no work at all.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 20 February 2021 00: 53
        0
        This is a strange situation. This is not God knows what kind of modernization, especially since it seems to be there according to the project, and not that it would be prohibitively expensive.
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 19 February 2021 13: 55
    +1
    Not too much, seven years to repair? fellow
  9. Andrey1903
    Andrey1903 19 February 2021 14: 00
    +1
    2021 will be the year of ship upgrades. We must (...)
    Should, but not required
  10. Kushka
    Kushka 19 February 2021 14: 15
    -1
    Fearless "- Project 11540 lead patrol ship" Yastreb ", built in 1993 year at Yantar.
    In, and they said that in the 90s it was bad! What a handsome man
    done! Moreover, he served 10 years!
    And already in 2014 DO NOT BUILD! - to carry out repairs to the serviceman!
    And neither how. Sad ......
  11. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 20 February 2021 00: 04
    0
    everyone for information, if you are interested in project 11540
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B0_11540