The terms of the return to the combat composition of the Baltic Fleet TFR "Neustrashimy" project 11540

Patrol ship Undaunted Project 11540 code "Hawk" will return to the Baltic fleet after a lengthy renovation in 2021. Ilya Samarin, general director of the Baltic shipyard Yantar, told TASS about this.

2021 will be the year of ship upgrades. We must (...) complete the deep modernization of the escort ship Undaunted

- said Samarin.

The watchdog has been under repair since 2014, initially it was planned to return to service at the end of 2016, but during the defect detection, the need for a large amount of additional work was identified and the ship's repair was extended. Also, a big delay in the repair of the ship was caused by the repair of the propulsion system of the ship, made in Ukraine, the turbines were sent for repair to aviation plant in Samara.

The date of delivery of the ship was postponed several times, from the beginning from 2016 to 2018, then to 2019, then to the middle of last year, and now a new date has been announced - 2021.

"Fearless" - Project 11540 lead patrol ship "Yastreb", built in 1993 on board "Yantar". The main purpose is the search, detection, tracking and destruction of enemy submarines, anti-ship and anti-submarine defense of warships and ships at sea, strikes against underwater and surface targets at sea and bases, support for combat operations of ground forces, providing landing, as well as for cover forces of amphibious assault.

The ship's displacement is 3590 tons, speed up to 30 knots, autonomy for 30 days, crew of 210 people. In service: AK-100 artillery mount, Dagger, Dagger, 533 torpedoes, millimeters, Ka-27 helicopter. Whether the ship will be re-equipped during the repair process has not been previously reported.

Comments

[Doccor18]

The ship is handsome and fighter.
At one time it was a very sharp-toothed ship, surpassing all comparable foreign counterparts. Now, of course, it is outdated, but, God forbid, it will still serve the Motherland.

[Bashkirkhan]

"Undaunted" BO "returns to the fleet" every year, it has already become a tradition like "every year we go to the bathhouse with men."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.topwar.ru/148641-skr-neustrashimyj-proekta-11540-vernetsja-na-baltflot-v-2019-godu.html

[Sofa]

This is for sure and the upgrade is 7 years old !!!!!! The aircraft carrier is being built and put into service for such a period, and a ship with such a displacement in China will probably be ready for a new one in a year. will be accepted.

[Aerodrome]

The watchdog has been under repair since 2014,

six years old damn it! SIX ! During this time, the Turks ukram signed at least two ships to build ... it is clear that the next "jerk" ... laces ... ankle boots ... arthritis ...

[lopuhan2006]

Quote: Couch

This is for sure and the upgrade is 7 years old !!!!!! The aircraft carrier is being built and put into service for such a period, and a ship with such a displacement in China will probably be ready for a new one in a year. will be accepted.

I heard that there was cannibalism in favor of another sister ship Yaroslav. Plus engine repair at a non-core company. More subcontractors, more approvals. Everyone wants to eat, so there is a boat.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

In the text, the reasons for the delay are indicated - problems with the case and the engine.

Why compare all this with the serial construction of ships on time ?!

If there is no engine for the ship, can you quickly repair it? Not.

Or maybe you will make a new engine without having either the capacity for construction or documentation for it, nothing at all ?! Also no.

So what's the reason for your whining?

Be glad that this ship can be returned to service at all !!!

[2 Level Advisor]

And what is the reason for the annual pretentious story that is about? Maybe you need to talk - after 2 years and do it .. or just keep silent since there are no engines .. and this is "whining" as you called it, just the discontent of adequate people with untruths that are "poured" into their ears every year ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And what is the reason for the annual pretentious story that is about? Maybe you need to talk - in 2 years and do it ..

Where and what pathos did you see?

Interview with TASS !!! The journalist asked, he was answered based on the situation that exists, circumstances can change and if you are really interested / interested in a topic related to weapons, you would be aware that this happens always and for everyone.

How many "Zamvolts" in the US said they will do? Something for 30 pieces, but only 3 pieces were made.

So what were they chatting about ?!

So the plans were, and then changed.

[Sofa]

Yes, with the new ones, for example, Ivan Gren, for example, how much did they take?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

BDK Ivan Gren is the lead ship in the project of which changes were often made, something was altered, and therefore delays.

The first serial large landing craft, Pyotr Morgunov, is very different from him, and the following types of Vladimir Andreev generally have only a numerical code in common with him, and by design they are completely different ships.

[Sofa]

Yes, this is all clear, only the situation with the BDK is catastrophic, it is necessary not to make changes, but to stamp them.

[Nikon O'Conor]

"Stamp" - this term can be attributed to the maximum of the T-34, Then each product is built, tested and completed. And in Russian history, ships have never been stamped.

[Sofa]

You know, when there are not enough ships, the term "stamping" is just appropriate. According to your logic, "ships have never been stamped" as it should be, I totally disagree with you at the wrong time, the fleet does not have enough ships in the sea and ocean zones. Therefore, you need to refuse from the construction of small brawlers and karakurt, because the United States withdrew from the drone and lay at least 22350 in large quantities and a large-scale artillery complex such as Ivan Gren. This is not only my opinion.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Why build ships that do not meet the requirements of the fleet?

[Overlock]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Why build ships that do not meet the requirements of the fleet?

Probably, the General Staff of the Navy thinks differently

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

That is why they made so many changes to the 11711 project and made a bunch of alterations that, as a result, 2 and 3 serial ships, even outwardly, will differ greatly from it.

And here some comrades suggest simply stamping out what is and not improving anything.

[Sofa]

And such comrades as you are satisfied with two new large landing ships for four fleets and two who will not know when they will accept.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Whatever the situation, it is necessary to make ships that are needed by the fleet and satisfy its requirements, and not just churn out something that is not clear and it is not clear why.

[Sofa]

We have a Soviet-built BDK, they are many years old, as you say. There is nothing to replace them with now. "What the fleet needs" I do not even want to list.

[Sanguinius]

Well head and what's next !? Yeah, yes, build a ship with an approved TTZ and change it during construction, who is doing this well explain (11711) !? There is absolutely no difference between Gren and Morgunov! So the delays in construction are absolutely incomprehensible, what the head large landing craft is what the next, Morgunov!
Well, they were going to build 30 Zumvalts, in the end they realized that this ship was not rolling and, recognizing this, canceled the further series. But we have, as they say, seven Fridays a week!

[Overlock]

Quote: Couch

When will our shipbuilders begin to build normally and on time?

The problem is complex. Judging by Peter, the situation with personnel at shipyards is awful:
- JSC "Admiralty Shipyards" - announced in February the opening of more than 200 vacancies in blue-collar specialties with a salary of up to 120 thousand - a record for the industry and twice the average level of wages in the city's manufacturing industry. But there are no volunteers;
- the head of the Vyborg shipyard (VSZ), which builds fishing trawlers and icebreakers for the FSB: 500 workers are missing;
- North shipyard: shortage of 1000 people.
I think that Yantar also has this problem.
If before the pandemic shipyards were vigorously importing workers from Ukraine, now it is impossible to bring specialists from there. And Ukrainians are no longer eager to go to Russia: in Poland, in the Baltic countries, wages at shipyards are higher than in Russia. Local search is not successful.

[bk316]

- JSC "Admiralty Shipyards" - announced in February the opening of more than 200 vacancies in working specialties with a salary of up to 120 thousand -

Of course, it's easy to write from the couch without knowing anything about the actual situation (I'm not talking about you).
I know about the Admiralty first-hand how things are for many years.
If you look at my comments, you will see how I wrote to the whiners that production is developing and there are always vacancies at the Admiralty.
And this is not because everyone is running, on the contrary, even pensioners are kept - just production is growing and new personnel are needed. And where to get them? In principle, the Admiralty ones grow their own, but this is not enough.
What am I doing? Besides the fact that they are pumping money into shipbuilding both military and civil - the capacities are scheduled for many years ahead. Sooner or later this will have an effect and we will start not only "baking like cakes" from Warsaw, but also destroyers.
And if you look more broadly, you can clearly see a pattern, those enterprises and entire sectors that suffered less than others for various reasons in the 90s (Almaz-Antey, Admiralieyskie, KRET, ROSATOM) are now quite normally giving out products "to the mountain".
The main thing is to listen less to the liberals "about the people who have been taken away from the pensioners" and all the supporters "nothing will be stolen from everyone" and continue to follow the chosen course.

[Asad]

Yes, they took it away! I am not at all happy to retire five years later! Have you tried looking for money in other places?

[bk316]

Did you try to look for money in other places?

Are you talking about other places?
I don’t get money from the budget, I support several people like that for state employees (my personal income tax is not enough for a few whiners) and I support a few more pensioners, because my deductions are far beyond the bar. Do you know what it is when I pay 80 thousand to the Pension Fund every month and my pension will be 30? This is UNJUSTICE.
So I don’t whine that I have to support you.

[Sofa]

"I'm not talking about you" -and about myself

[Alex777]

There is only one question for repairs - will the Uranus be delivered or not.

[Piramidon]

The watchdog has been under repair since 2014

Before that I read how many NEW ships the Chinese "baked" during this time. I felt sad.

[prior]

The Chinese breed corvettes, we breed millionaire bribery.

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: prior

we breed bribe-takers-millionaires.

The country needs heroes, and the female reproductive organ is fertile, you know who. By the way, it can be seen on the forum in recent years. It's scary to read the comments. Russia, Th is already there.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

By the way, it can be seen on the forum in recent years. It's scary to read the comments.

So our fault is in this.

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: tihonmarine

So our fault is in this

I do not disclaim responsibility for the content of the comments, of course we ourselves are to blame, and not someone else.

[Civil]

Quote: prior

The Chinese breed corvettes, we breed millionaire bribery.

Do you want both in Ukraine?

[New Year day]

Quote: Civil

Do you want both in Ukraine?

Can't it be like in Germany or Sweden?

[Civil]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Civil

Do you want both in Ukraine?

Can't it be like in Germany or Sweden?

What do you want gay Europeans to live here? They got rich robbing their colonies ... Russia doesn't need that kind of money.

[Sofa]

A standard of living like in Germany and Sweden we want with our natural resources

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Couch

as in Germany and Sweden we want

He who drowns as will burst. And want everything much, yeah. One unknown organism left a similar summary on the wall in the underpass at Vyborgskaya: "I want to never work and sleep with hoes."

[Sofa]

To want is not harmful, it is harmful not to want. Live for a month for a month, maybe a different opinion will be. I doubt it will just have to dig well. And although okay, that's not the topic of the article.

[Xenaro]

But basically, a high standard of living leads to degradation. From some level of passing wealth through the tract of the throat-asshole irreversibly affects the person.

[Overlock]

Quote: Couch

A standard of living like in Germany and Sweden we want with our natural resources

Then there won't be enough bread for Putin's friends

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Are they building new corvette in Russia? Maybe Russia is not building new frigates, minesweepers, UDC, BDK, submarines, including nuclear ones?

Or do you, in some miraculous way, Russia should build more ships than China with its # 2 economy in the world and 1,5 billion people ?!

Not so long ago in China they took for corruption an official whose home had more gold than the gold reserves of some countries of the world !!! So, they are not doing well either.

So, there is no need to shed the tears of a cracodile.

[New Year day]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

China with its # 2 economy in the world and 1,5 billion people ?!

And how did he achieve this?

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Not so long ago in China they took for corruption an official whose home had more gold than the gold reserves of some countries of the world !!!

How it ends for him:
1.shot
2.rewarding
3.a promotion?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And how did he achieve this?

They worked, not whined like you.

There have been shootings in China for a long time, but officials there steal no less than in Russia, judging by such arrests.

[New Year day]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

They worked, not whined like you.

This is not my address. My experience is 40 years. And yours?

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

but officials there steal no less than in Russia, judging by such arrests.

There is complete confidence that he will not need this gold in this world anymore and that is good. And we would have received an order or moved to academicians, but this is bad.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And I am 40 years old in total and since the age of 16 I either served in the army (mostly in Chechnya, 9 years old) or worked.

There is a certainty that those who can and cannot steal in China, and shootings are a way to eliminate political competitors or simply objectionable ones.

And we have a court, a multiple fine and significant terms for the thieving officials and security officials.

Isaev, the plenipotentiary representative and the former governor of the Khabarovsk Territory, was recently convicted. The verdict is mild, not executions, a suspended sentence, but he is 72 years old, he compensated for the damage caused, and a fine was also imposed.

Moreover, he was convicted of his affairs when he was in the management of Rosneft, according to his own security service.

As you can see, even orders and previous merits do not make discounts.

[New Year day]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

And I'm only 40 years old

you see. Mom and Dad designed you, and I already worked.
So your message

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

They worked, not whined like you.

try on yourself. And be more modest, you are our hardworking

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

and from the age of 16 I either served in the army (mostly in Chechnya, 9 years old) or worked.

commendable and what ...? Everyone here working ... except you

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I still work and do not whine, why somewhere, something more.

[Bashkirkhan]

Can Russia populate with Chinese?

[Sergej1972]

The Chinese, like us, have serious problems with demography. The country is aging, and soon the population will begin to decline. A total of 15-16 million newborns per year. And this is in a country with a population of 1 billion 400 million people. The situation is the same for the Japanese and South Koreans. Poor North Koreans, on the other hand, do well.

[Nastia makarova]

problems with women in China

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

problems with women in China

Maybe there is, but when I was there, I did not notice.

[Sergej1972]

Not all information can be obtained from personal observations, especially in such a giant country. They are really skewed. The Chinese authorities and demographers are sounding the alarm: there are more grooms than brides, and all this against the background of low birth rates and at the same time, a fairly long life expectancy.

[Nastia makarova]

a lot of brides are brought from the nearest poor countries, from the Philippines a lot

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

from the Philippines a lot

From / to are also available.

[alexmach]

And with them there are problems everywhere :)
And their birth rate is not falling because of this, or rather, not only because of this. The main reason is urbanization and technological progress. The birth rate is high in countries with agricultural economies. In countries where you need to study under 30 and then make a career, and where both partners must work to live with dignity, there can be no high birth rate.

[Nastia makarova]

is it ??? here we have no problems, so many women in Russia from 25 to 35 are not married, only men do not really run to create families

[alexmach]

really ???

Well, yes, problems with them, well, that is, with you everywhere, they are just different everywhere :)

only men don't really run to create families

And this is just a direct consequence of the development of society as well. And the same second side of the coin of problems with women :)

[Overlock]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

problems with women in China

The problem with women everywhere, especially of childbearing age

[Koval Sergey]

The standard of living rises - the birth rate falls

[Alien From]

The tempo is our modern magician ...

[Doccor18]

Quote: Piramidon

Before that I read how many NEW ships the Chinese "baked" during this time. I felt sad.

What is there to compare ...
They only have a GDP 7 times larger than ours, although this does not really reflect the difference between the two economies. China produces more in a variety of industries than the rest of the world put together ...

[Sergej1972]

Once upon a time, from the beginning of the 20th century to the 50s and 60s, and in the United States, production in many industries exceeded similar production in all countries of the world.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Sergej1972

Once upon a time, from the beginning of the 20th century to the 50s and 60s, and in the United States, production in many industries exceeded similar production in all countries of the world.

And?
The United States is to this day the most influential country in the world. It is able to arrange financial pressure on any state, imposes sanctions against countries, has the largest military budget ... ... although a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since the 60s ...

[Sergej1972]

I totally agree with you. But the fact is that the share of the United States in world industrial production has fallen sharply over the past 50-60 years.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Sergej1972

But the fact is that the share of the United States in world industrial production has fallen sharply over the past 50-60 years.

That's a very difficult question.
Even if all Apple or Tesla factories are removed from the USA, these companies will not become poorer and weaker, if not vice versa ...
The economy of the past 40 years has been so transformed that these mechanisms are more and more difficult to understand ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Piramidon

Before that I read how many NEW ships the Chinese "baked" during this time. I felt sad.

Yes, quite a long renovation. It's time to get out of this impasse.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Piramidon

The watchdog has been under repair since 2014

Before that I read how many NEW ships the Chinese "baked" during this time. I felt sad.

salt on the wound ...

[V.I.P.]

6 years under repair and not re-equipped? If so, then we can say for sure: "has no analogues in the world"))))

[cniza]

It was not previously reported whether the ship will be rearmed during the repair process.

It should, it's logical and cheaper ...

[donavi49]

There, on the Abaza, they are guessing - will they put the X35 or will it remain the dove of peace? According to the last photos, there was no work on the site.

[Volder]

In 2021, the modernization of the ship will be completed. This will be followed by a series of tests - starting from mooring and ending with state ones. And this already, you know, will stretch for 2022.

[Thrifty]

Is it too early to finish the renovation decided? It takes at least five more years to think about the need for its rearmament, three years to select the weapon that needs to be put on it, then it will rust through and through, and you can safely write off. ..

[Sergej1972]

According to modern classification, is it a corvette or a frigate?

[Doccor18]

Quote: Sergej1972

According to modern classification, is it a corvette or a frigate?

Of course the frigate.
Too "fat" for a corvette

[donavi49]

Patrol ship. For now all frigates are URO by default. And he doesn't even have an anti-ship missile. And it's not a fact that the X35 will be screwed like the Wise, because last year there were photos of just the sites and there were no farms there and there was no work at all.

[alexmach]

This is a strange situation. This is not God knows what kind of modernization, especially since it seems to be there according to the project, and not that it would be prohibitively expensive.

[Ros 56]

Not too much, seven years to repair?

[Andrey1903]

2021 will be the year of ship upgrades. We must (...)
Should, but not required

[Kushka]

Fearless "- Project 11540 lead patrol ship" Yastreb ", built in 1993 year at Yantar.
In, and they said that in the 90s it was bad! What a handsome man
done! Moreover, he served 10 years!
And already in 2014 DO NOT BUILD! - to carry out repairs to the serviceman!
And neither how. Sad ......

[lvov_aleksey]

everyone for information, if you are interested in project 11540
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B0_11540

[max91]

If Uranus is released again without the anti-ship complex, this is just a crime or betrayal, at least.