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When you're just not a soldier

Sometimes members of the forum say that my articles are too laconic.


Yes it is. I don't want to "pour water", creating the appearance of volume. I skip technological terms, which are not entirely clear myself. And sometimes - because there is simply not enough material. As it is now fashionable to say: "from the word in general" no.

Extreme poverty


Something similar happened with the Romanian shoe data search.

It seems that everything is there - both the Internet and a translator. And you start to understand - useful one or two phrases. But I will start with the search that has already become traditional for me, generalizing and indicating the essence of such shoes. So, for Romanian shoes this keyword will be the word - poverty.

Let's try to figure out why.

Noticed the splash screen?

This is how a Romanian infantryman should have looked at the beginning of World War II. This is if according to the charter and for the parade. He is dressed according to the pattern of 1939.

We are interested in shoes.

According to the aforementioned reform, he was entitled to shoes from two pairs of leather boots (one on his feet, the other - spare). Black color. The number of eyelets is eight pairs. Leather sole. Lined with horseshoes and spiked nails.




They were to be worn with leather cuffs (gaiters) attached to the leg by three narrow straps with buckles.

And here the most curious thing begins.

I tried to find their photos. But I failed!

There are graphic images, there are diagrams, color drawings. And the photo is not. To be honest, there was one thing - very far away. So much so that I doubted the correctness of the definition.

No money, but you fight


But there are forums for reenactors. I started reading ...

So, even there it is indicated that with the identification of Romanian uniforms and equipment, disputes and incomprehensible situations often arise.

I did not mention the offensive word for nothing poverty... After the First World War, many countries found themselves in distress and oppression. And Romania was also "redrawn" several times, taking a piece of territory. Maintain a highly paid professional army? What finance?

But nobody canceled military service. Against the background of all this social chaos in the army, a situation has developed when a soldier hates an officer, and an officer openly despises a soldier.

The Romanian General Staff hoped for Hitler's help in resolving territorial disputes. Berlin said that it was not going to settle anything until the end of the war. Along the way, he invited himself to participate in the "section of the pie".

And the peasants, dressed in poor quality uniforms, having received Czech rifles in exchange for the antediluvian "karmultuk" Tanks, joined the campaign to the East.

If we return to the shoes, then, looking at the photographs, I realized that even the cavalry were not all in boots or boots with leather leggings. (By the way, they look like riding boots from afar).

The officers are from the upper strata, those - yes. In shiny leather, most likely custom tailoring.

But the rest were very rarely shod in boots or in the mentioned boots with leggings. Basically - boots and cloth windings. Without any leather bracelets put there.




It feels good?

Dressed, shod?

But, most likely, these are staged shots. For propaganda.

Like a captive Romanian


Why did I decide that?

Because I looked through a whole photo album about the Romanian soldiers of the Second World War. So there, even home, the following photos were sent to relatives:





Are the conquerors good?

However, now I understand why on construction sites sloppy and ragged workers are called "Captured Romanians"... Here they are, in formation ...


And also, perhaps, he guessed with whom the director Andrei Tutyshkin created immortal images for "Wedding in Malinovka".

Although this is my personal opinion ...
Author:
Photos used:
www.reenactors-krim.info, reibert.info/media, www.historia.ro,
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 21 February 2021 15: 07
    +17
    Igor (Leader of the Redskins) - Well done good !!! Pleased with another article, by the way, as a writer - you are confidently progressing! Honored +!
    Well, Romanians ...
    Ps Leader, continue to create intrigue, we will guess who is next in the shoe topic ... just give me a tip.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 February 2021 15: 34
      +17
      Like who? Puss in Boots!!! laughing
      The Finns, Hungarians and Chinese remained unoccupied. Although I sincerely did not refuse to read about Russian felt boots!
      For the continuation of the cycle, a definite plus, thanks!
      1. Machito
        Machito 21 February 2021 15: 40
        +18
        And these hicks wanted to chop off Stalingrad. We remember their crimes against the Russian people.
        1. Destiny
          Destiny 21 February 2021 15: 46
          +17
          They also wanted to chop off Odessa, Bessarabia, something else on the sly, so they stamped in their boots together with the Germans. Everyone knows how the campaign of these would-be conquerors ended.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 21 February 2021 15: 47
          +11
          According to the testimony of the old people, the Romanian occupiers were utter villains, worse than the Nazis.
          1. Machito
            Machito 21 February 2021 16: 16
            +11
            Quote: 210ox
            According to the testimony of the old people, the Romanian occupiers were utter villains, worse than the Nazis.

            And now what is better than the Nazis? One word: Romanians.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 21 February 2021 16: 54
            +12
            Quote: 210ox
            According to the testimony of the old people, the Romanian occupiers were utter villains, worse than the Nazis.

            And you have not beguiled them with the case of the Hungarians?
            1. 210ox
              210ox 21 February 2021 17: 33
              +13
              There are no Hungarians in the Kuban. But the Romanians were. They took everything out of the huts, down to the last scarf, and shit right on the street. I know about the Hungarians, but they "checked in" near Voronezh. And our soldiers celebrated them. They say that they were not taken prisoner. So they resisted to the last. And Romanians are cowardly. There was a saying in 1944: "Russians - on the Prut, Romanians - on Seret (river)"
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 00: 01
                +7
                Quote: 210ox
                But the Romanians were. They carried everything out of the huts, down to the last scarf, and shit right on the street.

                They had poverty, terrible before Soviet power. My parents had a business trip there, at the end of the 70s, they lived there for two years. People, like people, friendly, all black, like gypsies, there are no blondes at all. I was bright as a child, when they passed by, they strove to touch all their hair, it was considered lucky for them.)))) They drink tsuiku (plum vodka), no worse than us Russians, with practically no snacks, with grapes. All the time they tried to let us Russians skip the line. A lot of people spoke Russian, they taught Russian at school, and they taught it well. At that time they treated Russians very well.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 22 February 2021 00: 25
                  -14%
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  They had poverty

                  Well, people did not die of hunger in millions and mass cannibalism, like some of their neighbors in the 30s / 40s, was not observed
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  all black, like gypsies, no blondes at all. I was bright in childhood, when they passed by, they strove to touch all their hair, it was considered for luck.)))

                  Were there people with dog-headed heads?




                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 22 February 2021 00: 46
                    +9
                    Quote: Liam
                    Were there people with dog-headed heads?

                    No, there were no heads with a dog))))) However, I did not see blondes there, they are very similar to gypsies. Have you seen a lot of blondes from Moldova? They even have a very similar language with the Romanians, and the same with the Italians.
                    Quote: Liam
                    Well, people did not die of hunger in millions and mass cannibalism, like some of their neighbors in the 30s / 40s, was not observed

                    And which of their neighbors, let me be curious in the 30s and 40s, had mass cannibalism, and millions of people died of hunger? Only I belittle you, please do not refer to the "Ogonyok" magazine, but only to the real historical documents of those years.
                  2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                    Kote Pan Kokhanka 22 February 2021 05: 22
                    +10
                    Liam, what kind of person are you? Comrades open their souls, share memories, and you request
                    "Mass cannibalism 30-40". It's amazing how they haven't attached a bunch of pictures of hungry people from the "Great Depression"! Eco, as you faked your neighbors, but you are a NATO member.
                    Outside my window today, minus 20 plus, you have plus fifteen. In Odessa they say “feel the difference”.
                    By the way, there is a wonderful book "The Sacred Nativity scene" read there is a lot about your fellow countrymen and their "skeletons in the closet." Including cannibalism.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 22 February 2021 07: 38
                      -14%
                      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                      Comrades open their souls, share memories, and you

                      How cute...sorry for stopping you from hiding money)
                      PySy. Aren't you tired of podmahivat here any delirium? Some kind of unworthy behavior for a man is so.
                      1. Petrik66
                        Petrik66 22 February 2021 10: 33
                        +8
                        you were asked a question about the documentary justification of your passage about cannibalism. No need to move on to other topics - requests for a link to the source of your statements.
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 22 February 2021 13: 13
                        -7
                        Contact Ymperts Olgovich, he has a lot of this stuff)
                      3. Petrik66
                        Petrik66 22 February 2021 14: 36
                        +4
                        So I thought, there is nothing to answer ..
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 21 February 2021 18: 56
        +14
        Once in the early XNUMXs, I talked with one grandfather who survived the occupation of Crimea in the village of Tabachnoye (Bakhchisarai district). There was a communication point (Evpatoria - Sevastopol), where Slovaks were sitting (the locals called them Czechs), there were few Germans and most of all Romanians. So no one was nastier than the Romanians at all, it seems that they were trying to compensate for their inferiority complex, recouping the unarmed population.
      3. mat-vey
        mat-vey 22 February 2021 06: 05
        +6
        Quote: 210ox
        According to the testimony of the old people, the Romanian occupiers were utter villains, worse than the Nazis.

        My grandmother had a younger brother - after being drafted I got to Stalingrad, I did not find him - he unlearned and steeply went to the top .. So they told him, after the war, how to drink the most terrible curse was - "U, Romanians" .. And a sober one told that I have not seen great sadists and dirty tricks during the whole war.
      4. Petrik66
        Petrik66 22 February 2021 10: 30
        +4
        Romanians were just robbers - they dragged everything. And according to the ratings of atrocities: 1 - Cossacks, 2 - Hungarians, 3 - Germans,
  2. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 21 February 2021 15: 43
    +10
    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Like who? Puss in Boots!!! laughing
    The Finns, Hungarians and Chinese remained unoccupied. Although I sincerely did not refuse to read about Russian felt boots!
    For the continuation of the cycle, a definite plus, thanks!

    laughing All cats in boots, well, or boots fellow
    Many more armies were not taken into development, Japanese, Australians, Canadians ... we will be happy to read.
    After the first article, I suddenly found out that felt boots are a variant of Boots! Greetings hi
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 February 2021 16: 52
      +12
      Quote: Hunter 2
      After the first article, I suddenly found out that felt boots are a variant of Boots!

      In fact, Alexey - yes! In terms of content - also yes !!! But the Russian soul says "cutlets and flies separately."
      My grandfather from the war brought "white cloaks" - felt boots with leather soles lined with nails. Definitely not a trophy, but I don’t know how. I dragged them to "zero" even in the classes that had become, but where did not he take an interest. repeat
      As for cats and boots, I'll smile! The neighbors used to have a wrong cat that slept on the stove in a felt boot. And steamed with tomatoes that were ripening in them. Until he got fat and stopped getting into it. And then, after that, he constantly lay on his felt boot.
      Somewhere I had a photo of this cat - or rather a tail from a felt boot. The naive one wanted to hide from me as a bully !!! laughing
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 21 February 2021 16: 55
      +7
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Japanese

      Were
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    21 February 2021 15: 59
    +21
    Puss in boots? !!! laughing
    Yes. There are not many "characters" left. And there is even less material, but I will try.
    Traditionally, I thank the readers and commentators.
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 21 February 2021 16: 29
      +11
      Thank you for the article!!! good
      And why don't you REALLY write about Puss in Boots on April 1, judging by the Soviet cartoon, the artists copied them from somewhere, not invented them from their heads? )) And there are also foreign cartoons, so would you make a review of shoes for cats in boots ?! repeat drinks
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 21 February 2021 19: 24
        +7
        And Yarmolnik's shoes should be considered. Great idea.
    2. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 21 February 2021 18: 38
      +11
      My respect, Igor!
      Thank you for the article! However, I will note (becomes my slogan laughing ), the theme of WWII uniforms on the resource is covered somewhat episodically, unlike WWII (Oleinikov, bow to him, tried 2,5-3 years ago). You have carte blanche!
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 21 February 2021 19: 37
        +7
        And I also have a proposal.
        Why shouldn't Igor, as the final article of the cycle, make a kind of rating of army shoes of that era? Criteria? Practicality, convenience, cheapness of manufacture / price of the issue laughing /, wear resistance. And we would discuss, no? hi
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 21 February 2021 20: 04
          +11
          Not. Only the user can make an opinion on the subject. None of us have used these shoes, for months, in combat conditions ... Therefore, the rating will come out, mmm ..., wrong.
    3. Phil77
      Phil77 21 February 2021 19: 19
      +7
      Greetings Igor! Thanks for the next article. Unfortunately, I also did not find interesting photos that could interest the venerable audience. Alas! Well, and traditional. I look forward to continuing the * shoe * cycle!hi
  4. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 21 February 2021 16: 24
    +5
    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Like who? Puss in Boots!!! laughing
    The Finns, Hungarians and Chinese remained unoccupied. Although I sincerely did not refuse to read about Russian felt boots!
    For the continuation of the cycle, a definite plus, thanks!

    I join about boots !!! good I myself go to them in cold weather, I don’t know grief, everyone envies me)))
  5. Richard
    Richard 21 February 2021 18: 08
    +12
    -Romanian soldiers' boots with forged soles arr. 1939-1945 were called "Bocanci"

    1. Richard
      Richard 21 February 2021 18: 12
      +12
      Here is the equipment of the Romanian WWII infantryman

      1. Richard
        Richard 21 February 2021 18: 20
        +12
        And in general, as for the Romanian military shoes of the WWII, they differed depending on the type of troops, and of course the rank of the serviceman.


        1. Richard
          Richard 21 February 2021 18: 33
          +10
          I look forward to appearing on this thread Phil и ycuce234-san... They are consummate masters at illustrating articles and finding original photographs.
          Many thanks to the author for this cycle. It's just very interesting. Do not stop
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 21 February 2021 19: 16
            +13
            Greetings, Dmitry! Alas. How much I didn’t dig, but I didn’t find any photos related to the subject of the article! No, there are a lot of photos of Romanian soldiers, a lot. And yes, judging by the photos, the Romanian army most of all resembles a gathering of deserters. There are photos of the pilots. everything is in order there, everything is available. In the words of my mother, and my grandmother told her about this, the Romanians were noted in the temporarily occupied lands, it was a rare looting. And they then lived in Tiraspol .Something like that.
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 21 February 2021 19: 39
      +9
      But in the bottom photo you can clearly see traces of repairs? Probably the owner of the car has worked? wink
  6. Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 21 February 2021 18: 33
    +7
    Thank you for the article.
    There are so many variations of felt boots ..... just felt boots, hemmed boots, lined with leather, rubber from a car tire))))), there are also so-called. comb.
    And every different nationality has its own color.
    Upaki, felt boots in Komi, short bootleg, this is more likely the fruit of civilization.
  7. Richard
    Richard 21 February 2021 22: 40
    +6
    The leader of the Redskins: Sometimes forum users say that my articles are too laconic

    Unfortunately, there is such a flaw. But, Igor, such a presentation of little-studied material is still much more honest and useful than the expanded folios of the same Frolova with far-fetched data and captions to illustrations.
    A big request to you - if it's not difficult, please post links to the material you are using. The topics you reveal are interesting, which make you search for the previously unknown.
    Best regards hi
  • Alien From
    Alien From 21 February 2021 15: 42
    +9
    Will not give a tip, Wise Leader) thanks for the article and we are waiting for the photo ... hi
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 21 February 2021 17: 07
    +13
    Romanians are still hated in the Odessa region. My grandmother said that they were painfully angry and greedy. And forever, dirty ...
  • Richard
    Richard 21 February 2021 17: 51
    +10
    Author:Boots should have been worn with leather cuffs (gaiters) attached to the leg by three narrow straps with buckles.
    And here the most curious thing begins.
    I tried to find their photos. But I failed!

    1. Richard
      Richard 21 February 2021 17: 56
      +9
      These leather leggings are shown in the figure in more detail.
      1. Richard
        Richard 21 February 2021 17: 57
        +11
        But in the photo of 1942
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 21 February 2021 20: 22
          +9
          And these are the pilots.

  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 22 February 2021 00: 04
    +3
    Wonderful series of articles!
    It is interesting to learn about military shoes.
    And it’s the cycle! Since Friday I thought that the continuation is not soon, but here we were pleased! good
  • Pereira
    Pereira 21 February 2021 15: 08
    +11
    In the old days, officers at the military department called the Studiosus names by prisoners of Romanians.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 21 February 2021 15: 18
      +10
      Well, that's right. Watching a career officer at this Makhnovist rabble is below average pleasure. I wonder why naval torpedoists are called Romanians? This is the question. laughing
      1. 210ox
        210ox 21 February 2021 15: 49
        +7
        As far as I know, in the school the miners were called Chinese. Because there were more of them among the rest.
        1. The comment was deleted.
        2. Destiny
          Destiny 21 February 2021 18: 05
          +21
          Ooooh! This is a bottomless naval humor joke theme!
          By the way, our foreman of the torpedo team in Ceausescu's cabin had a portrait, which he jokingly called "the flagship miner." Nobody remembers exactly, but there are many versions, now I only throw some of them, may the mine-torpedo unit specialists forgive me, we (" horned "with" Romanians ") constantly laughed at each other without malice and teased in every possible way, so they would not be offended:
          According to one version, when on the battleship "Prince Potemkin - Tavrichesky" they killed their officers and hijacked him to Romania, the instigators were precisely the sailors of the mine and torpedo specialty. It seems that the miners were yelling:
          - Let's go to Romania! Let's go to Romania!
          They also say that once Nikolai 2, while inspecting one of the ships of the Baltic Fleet, as is customary among the powers that be, condescended to a simple sailor, standing at attention at the torpedo tube ...
          - How is it served?
          - I'm happy with everything, Your Imperial Majesty!
          - And what is swarthy?
          - So we are Romanians ...
          Nicholas seemed to be embarrassed, but the commander who accompanied him explained that a new replenishment from Bessarabia had recently arrived on board and that the Romanians were also in it. To which the tsar, the priest, seemed to answer:
          - Let them be Romanians ...
          And immediately after the Great Patriotic War, trophy Romanian canvas boots were issued to the personnel of mine and torpedo parties engaged in mine laying on decks flooded with water. Another version, but let the glorious BCH-3 not be offended (this is us, "horned" with warheads -2 came up as a joke) - BC-3 Romanians, because they are stupid.
          - Why stupid? It seems normal.
          - Well, think for yourself, they have been studying at the school for five years. The torpedo tube is five meters long. So they study one meter a year.
          There is an interesting version that ROMAN comes from the crossing of two weapons RBU (rocket bomb) and MINA. By the way, the continuation of this version is the crossing of the words RYM (Rym
          a metal ring for securing cables, blocks, stoppers, mooring lines, etc. Rims are installed on the deck and on the bulwarks of ships, in the bow and stern ends of boats, as well as on quays and quays.)
          and MINA.
          With all Respect to the valiant Mine-Torpedo War Unit !!!
          1. Destiny
            Destiny 21 February 2021 18: 08
            +21
            Mineral commandments:
            Mina lives in the water.
            Our business is the pipe!

            "In mine business like nowhere else, the whole catch is in the heck
            You, miner, don't be a bastard and watch the heck "
            folk "Romanian folklore"

            "For some reason this cat was named Pardon. It was a terrible gray cat of the most bandit-like kind, a real decoration of the garbage dump. When he lay on the warm deck, his whole dissolute life was dozing sleepily in his green eyes. It is believed that mine officers are a naval offspring. They can put a detonator in the cat's ass, set it on fire and wait until it explodes (detonator, of course). There is a suspicion that mine officers are what fatherlessness leads to. A miner is a bitch udder, in short. Sorry felt the vile tribe in the distance.
            - Well, kosh-ball! - the miner always admired, trying to grab the cat, but he escaped with the agility of a mongoose.
            - Well, you bitch cat, you'll get caught! - the miner was having fun.
            "Well, hold it in both hands," Pardon seemed to say, shaking his paws in disgust at a safe distance. "

            A. Pokrovsky, "Sorry"
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 February 2021 22: 42
              +10
              My applause! On your tip, I read about the sea adventures of the cat Pardon - laughed to tears !!! Thank!
          2. 210ox
            210ox 21 February 2021 18: 17
            +10
            This is a sensible rationale! hiAnd about the "Chinese" I took from a series of articles by Sedykh in Zen.
          3. Freeman
            Freeman 21 February 2021 21: 43
            +11
            Destiny Today, 18: 05
            Ooooh! This is a bottomless naval humor joke theme!
            ..........................................
            BC-3 Romanians, because they are stupid.
            - Why stupid? It seems normal.
            - Well, think for yourself, they have been studying at the school for five years. The torpedo tube is five meters long. So they study one meter a year.


            There is a version that they were called "Romanians" because it was believed that in order to serve in the BC-3 it was enough to study and pass the test according to the RUM (Рcalculation Уinstallations Min). They don't need anything else for the service.

            Shl. With all due respect to the BCH-3 specialists. hi
  • rocket757
    rocket757 21 February 2021 15: 09
    +7
    Now they are dressed, shod according to NATO standards ..... probably.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 February 2021 15: 37
      +6
      And the morale also meets NATO standards.? what
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 February 2021 15: 40
        +5
        Maybe once there were heroes there, but in the foreseeable history I have not heard about the outstanding, but simply victorious actions of the Romanian army ... mainly escapes and defeat.
        1. clerk
          clerk 21 February 2021 22: 40
          +6
          In total, during the battles against the Nazis - from August 24, 1944 to May 9, 1945 - Romanian troops fought 1 kilometers from the Black Sea to Prague, liberated 700 settlements, including 3831 large cities.
          During this time, 538 soldiers took part in the battles. Of these, 535 were killed - including 21 officers and 035 non-commissioned officers; 850 were wounded, of which 776 were officers and 90 non-commissioned officers; 344 people were missing, including 3 officers and 289 non-commissioned officers. (C)
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 21 February 2021 23: 29
            +3
            It was, but ..... the main thing is to switch to the side of the winner in time, and with a former ally, something like that ......
            1. clerk
              clerk 21 February 2021 23: 31
              +4
              So they and their previous ally reached the Volga ...
          2. Michael
            Michael 22 February 2021 02: 46
            +5
            There are a lot of missing persons for the liberation campaign. Was that what the deserters were called tolerantly?
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 22 February 2021 00: 10
          +4
          Quote: rocket757
          Maybe once there were heroes there, but in the foreseeable history I have not heard about the outstanding, but simply victorious actions of the Romanian army ... mainly escapes and defeat.

          Wallachian ruler Vlad III Dracul, nicknamed the Impaler (Impaler), 1431-1476. He successfully fought against the Ottoman Turks. They fled at the mere sound of his name, because he had a tradition of impaling Turkish prisoners, all in a row and indiscriminately. Rather, with some analysis - the higher the rank, the higher the count. Later, Bram Stoker copied him from the image of the Transylvanian vampire Count Dracula.
          1. Michael
            Michael 22 February 2021 22: 10
            0
            Humanist from the bone marrow! You can go into the pit and feed it a little, to pray for the sins for a long time.
      2. Mitroha
        Mitroha 21 February 2021 16: 23
        +3
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        And the morale also meets NATO standards.? what

        Does NATO have a spirit? And even fighting?
        Judging by the tendencies in Europe, there will soon be not a spirit, but a spirit And the troops will prevail in the majority))
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 21 February 2021 23: 42
          +3
          Yes, no, there is a spirit, only it is impossible to carry it without a gas mask. request
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 February 2021 23: 51
          +5
          Quote: Mitroha
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          And the morale also meets NATO standards.? what

          Does NATO have a spirit? And even fighting?
          Judging by the tendencies in Europe, there will soon be not a spirit, but a spirit And the troops will prevail in the majority))

          Spirit-shmukh. As the last military conflict showed, the main thing is for whom the air and qualifications are, And everyone is afraid and always. Who is not afraid - dies quickly laughing
      3. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 21 February 2021 19: 06
        +6
        And the morale also meets NATO standards.?

        Several years ago, VO published notes from a Russian German living in Germany and serving in the Bundeswehr in 2001 for the standard 9 months of conscription. Written with humor, very informative, especially about how the sergeant, urging on the lazy squad, shouted to them "faster, the Russians are overtaking!" It’s how they were scared by ours during the war, that they are still afraid of us.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 February 2021 21: 26
          +4
          Sergey, but seriously what
          Remembering our childhood (born 1978), we have always played "war with the fascists." Genetic memory or reality of grandchildren, whose grandfathers witnessed the events of those years and that war.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 21 February 2021 21: 58
            +4
            Vladislav, I was born in 1955, they played selflessly at war with the Germans, especially in a military town, and most of our fathers were participants in the Second World War
  • Destiny
    Destiny 21 February 2021 15: 36
    +21
    In the photo "bokanchi" is an infantry version, "Vânători de munte" had (should have been - but in real life very few had) mountain boots with the appropriate characteristic forging. In general, the shoes of the Romanian army were, apparently, very motley and far from standardization - there were a great many options for soldier's shoes, and if the top could often be relatively the same type, then the soles were very different and could be either with different forging patterns, or without it at all, shod only with a heel or with a heel on the toe , there were even varieties of these horseshoes and heels. Apparently this was due to the imitation of the Romanians to their main "friends-comrades" - the Hungarians. Since they had boots with leggings attached to them, so the Romanians decided: the worse we want it too. Thank you, let's go further - who's next, Finns, Bulgarians, Australians?
    1. Liam
      Liam 21 February 2021 15: 49
      -17%
      Quote: Destiny
      Apparently this was due to the imitation of the Romanians to their main "friends-comrades" - the Hungarians

      The author has signed his own complete incompetence in the topic and it is not surprising that you and the rest of the so-called so-called discussion thread of the so-called article have gone not far from him.
      The Romanian form of the WWII was introduced by the charter of 1939.
      An article with a detailed description:
      https://www.historia.ro/sectiune/general/articol/ofiterii-romani-tinta-lunetistilor-inamici-din-cauza-unifomei
      Visual material:
      The Romanian Army of World War
      1. Destiny
        Destiny 21 February 2021 15: 59
        +17
        What did they want to say with this reference, dear sir, that all Romanians were sporting polished leather boots, and not boots?
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 21 February 2021 16: 10
          +11
          Quote: Destiny
          What did they want to say with this reference, dear sir, that all Romanians were sporting polished leather boots, and not boots?

          National pride "leaped" there laughing and resentment. And he wanted to say - Baba Yaga Against!
        2. Liam
          Liam 21 February 2021 16: 13
          -16%
          Quote: Destiny
          They wanted to say something

          What are you writing nonsense. Just like the author itself. But at least you are trying to write it on the topic. The rest of the buttons are just to smudge the paper)
      2. The leader of the Redskins
        21 February 2021 16: 03
        +19
        I invite you to leave not a link, but a comment. Confirmed by photos, not drawings. The platform is free and any comments on the topic are welcome. I will be happy to learn something useful. And the rest of the participants will give you a "plus" and express their gratitude.
        PS By the way, you are not careful. This material was read by me and there is a link to it after my article.
        1. Liam
          Liam 21 February 2021 16: 14
          -23%
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          I invite

          Excuse me, this article is of such low quality that it does not deserve a decent comment.
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            21 February 2021 16: 18
            +23
            You can create an alternative if you don't want to add it. I repeat - nobody forbids. You can even devastating criticism addressed to me.
            Only he who does nothing is not mistaken.
            But I have one last question for you - what brought you to the amateur forum? Apparently, you are on Olympus. The gods gathered there.
            1. Liam
              Liam 21 February 2021 22: 37
              -7
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              You can create an alternative if you don't want to add it. I repeat - nobody forbids. You can even devastating criticism addressed to me.
              Only he who does nothing is not mistaken.
              But I have one last question for you - what brought you to the amateur forum? Apparently, you are on Olympus. The gods gathered there.

              In order not to write outright nonsense, self-respect is enough and you do not need to be a god for this, but simply have dignity.
              Since, as I understand, your creative impulse is unfortunately not exhausted and many more epoch-making revelations on the topic of army shoes await us, my advice to you is not to disgrace yourself with amateurishness and read at least a little before you start paperwork. Start, for example, with an elementary topic from one of your previous masterpieces - why the army shoes were knocked out with nails. I understand that you are a genius and the unknown embrace an instant flight of thought and a careless stroke of a pen .. but anyone (not even a very smart person) will ask a question - why so many high-ranking people in all armies were so stupid and chose Such a way to strengthen the shoes. Could it be that these thousands and thousands of people were so ignorant and did such an obvious crap to you and the Saitgui audience applauding to you ... or are they not ignorant at all, but you and the company? ...

              https://guns.allzip.org/topic/92/678843.html
            2. Catfish
              Catfish 22 February 2021 00: 13
              +7
              Igor, hello and thanks! hi I just got there. Do not pay attention to this Italian "eagle", I already had an indescribable pleasure to dive with him about the heroic Italian army laughing and I know the price of this type.
              His "glorious" past does not give him peace, and his ass, beaten off in Russia and Africa, is still itching.

          2. Catfish
            Catfish 21 February 2021 23: 53
            +9
            .The article ... does not deserve a decent comment.


            That is why you, instead of commenting, sprinkle with saliva and proceed with bile. This usually happens in those suffering from an incurable disease, I sympathize, but I can not help.

      3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 February 2021 16: 30
        +16
        Liam, lately you've been "bad" about a lot of things! Or are you hooked on the work of the Author about the descendants of "Rome"?
        Duc, as far as I understood Igor just from the link given by you and repels. Fairly noting the regulations and leather riding boots and the "shoe of an ordinary Romanian infantryman" - these are two big differences !!!
        Moreover, the third stage of the Romanian company, when the "grateful Romanians" turned their bayonets against the Wehrmacht, it is not uncommon for photographs of their soldiers in our shoes. True, I found only prisoners in felt boots, but there are also combatants in kerzachs.
        By the way, for a smile!
        Romanian King - Commander of the Order of Victory!
        If I'm not mistaken, the Romanians, fighting against us and for us, lost an equal number of soldiers - about 400 thousand! So in terms of efficiency, they were even slightly better than the outsiders of the Axis countries - the Italians!
        1. Liam
          Liam 21 February 2021 18: 05
          -17%
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          Got you hooked

          Internet scribbles do not catch me in principle; this is the lot of an illiterate herd of minus players).
          On the topic, the author's level - "I look in the book, I see a fig" and commenting on articles of such a Dishchensky level is wasted time. You, too, often write nonsense about, but at least try on the topic of what would happen. In this case, you can discuss with a person, criticize, give counter-arguments. In this case, this is a slag and not an article. Moreover, a very low-grade
        2. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 21 February 2021 19: 14
          +8
          Romanian King - Commander of the Order of Victory!

          In addition to the order, he received a Po-2 for personal use, as he was fond of aviation sports. True, after the Romanian communists (Gheorghiu-Dej) came to power, the king's comfort was sharply reduced. This plane, according to a number of testimonies, later ended up at the airfield of the closed city of Arzamas-16 (now Sarov).
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 21 February 2021 16: 51
      +6
      The trace is Bulgarians. Germany's wisest allies
  • sleeve
    sleeve 21 February 2021 16: 00
    +12
    That's it, I can't hold back. Great series. And the effort is felt. Thank.
  • Drugov
    Drugov 21 February 2021 16: 14
    +13
    - One word of Romanians!
    - So he's a Bulgarian!
    - Yes?! Who cares?! (c)
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  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 21 February 2021 17: 04
    +10
    Wehrmacht gas station and such poverty. It's strange. Judging by the photo, the best dressed Romanian soldiers are dogs.
    Otherwise, the article is interesting. And you, the author, do not be embarrassed and do not react painfully to criticism from readers. Even A.S. Pushkin was criticized. Who knows, maybe you, too, are destined to become a "classic", "Military Review.)
  • Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 21 February 2021 18: 23
    +8
    Thank you for continuing! Who is next? Danes? Norse? Dutch? Belgians?
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 21 February 2021 18: 44
    +5
    Interesting article ! I read it with pleasure.
    Five unambiguously. I go first to look for. It is necessary to read! laughing
  • Undecim
    Undecim 21 February 2021 19: 38
    +11
    They were to be worn with leather cuffs (gaiters) attached to the leg by three narrow straps with buckles.
    And here the most curious thing begins.
    I tried to find their photos. But I failed!

    The failure of the author in the search for material is not yet a basis for the author's generalizations and conclusions, but rather a reason to postpone publication until the time when the material appears.


    1. Undecim
      Undecim 21 February 2021 19: 50
      +7
      There are even color photographs, although not of the best quality, but the details are visible.


    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 February 2021 21: 18
      +10
      Victor Nikolaevich, for God's sake, do not be harmful! It is easy to argue with your erudition, to be honest, in principle, until today, I have not thought about the Romanian "shoe".
      Moreover, the members of the forum have a hope that you will look at the light and get something from your bins, supplementing, expanding and decorating the Author's article!
      Regards, Vlad!
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 21 February 2021 21: 26
        +8
        Yes, I am not harmful, and to this day, just like you, I was not interested in Romanian ghete militare. It's just that the author wrote that he could not find the photos he needed and bumped into a description of the poverty of Romania instead of military shoes. It turns out that there are many photographs, and materials about the uniform of the Romanian army can be found.
        1. Liam
          Liam 21 February 2021 21: 45
          -5
          If the author's goal is to write an article about army shoes, the material is full of text and photos / drawings. After spending no more than 15 minutes, you can at least superficially familiarize yourself with the evolution of design and manufacturing technology of army shoes from a Roman legionnaire to modern special forces and support each line with gigabytes of photos and video. A minimum of knowledge and interest is enough for this if you treat yourself and your readers in good faith and respect.
          At the exit, we have another "Madame Frolov" for whom army boots (in which all the armies of the world of that period wore) are an undoubted sign of begging, an elementary misunderstanding of basic things such as why the soles were studded with nails. the production of footwear is not understood, although it is not clear why the Germans and all other users of army shoes used nails in the same way.
          About the inability to use at least a google translator, as a result of which the author pleases us with the revelation that carroarmato means It’s even inconvenient to write.
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            21 February 2021 23: 00
            +5
            So go ahead! I suggest you show a master class.
            Here, a colleague from above managed to show me photos that I could not find. Probably not looking there. And I admitted it initially. In a previous article, a colleague shared a photo of Jiki Tabi. And he, too, expressed thanks. From you, so far, only mournful tediousness - if only ... Level ... Below expected ... I will not condescend to this ...
            You know, we don't know each other, but I already introduce you to a botanist who checks every word, every digit ... Are you an accountant? Tax employee or just a boring person?
            By the way, about the translation of Italian. Taken from an article on the history of the origin of the vibram outsole. Google and read. My only problem is that I didn't rush to check everything verbatim.
            But if you're not interested, why are you reading?
            1. Liam
              Liam 21 February 2021 23: 13
              -5
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              Probably not looking there

              )))
              Probably you have a separate sovereign personal Internet that hides a photo from you. Or you simply simply don’t know how to use it. But this insignificant detail will not stop a real literary creator.

              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              we are not familiar, but I already represent you as a botanist who checks every word, every digit ...

              I'll survive it somehow. The trouble is that you have exactly the same approach to writing articles, you are not familiar with the topic, but it is enough to dream up and give out a masterpiece
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              My only problem is that I didn't rush to check everything verbatim.

              Naturally ... why should the author read, check, search for material, analyze, systematize the material for the article. This is such boring garbage on the Olympics.
    3. Avior
      Avior 22 February 2021 01: 36
      +8
      reason to postpone publication until the time when the material appears

      The spoon is good for dinner smile
      I think this cycle should be considered in a general complex of articles. Independently, each of the articles, even more elaborated, would be perceived differently. And in the cycle - a different perception.
      Moreover, these articles are of interest, and many of them are supplemented and expanded by readers.
      1. Liam
        Liam 22 February 2021 07: 01
        -5
        Quote: Avior
        I think this cycle should be considered in a general complex of articles

        Undoubtedly. I think you will also wait for the chapter about the shoes of the Ukrainian army. This figure will not miss such an appetizing topic for a thirsty venerable website audience. Another nails from the soles to the fan, so to speak. will expand
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 22 February 2021 12: 05
          +1
          Quote: Liam
          Undoubtedly. I think you will wait for the chapter about the shoes of the Ukrainian army. This figure will not miss such an appetizing topic for a thirsty venerable site audience.

          Liam, if you are so "heartburn" Duc - "a flag in your hands and a drum on your neck" write a series of articles about army shoes during the Second World War!
          You can separately highlight the aspect of the uniforms of the Ukrainians in the Red Army and kalobronazilist formations!
          You probably know better from a distance what our neighbors fought in !!!
        2. Avior
          Avior 22 February 2021 16: 07
          +2
          I wrote only about the general amount of information about shoes, and did not write about anything else
          hi
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 22 February 2021 04: 39
    0
    Romaly and Juliet)))
  • Lynnot
    Lynnot 22 February 2021 10: 49
    +4
    I came across an interesting article about the German allies at Stalingrad, including the eyes of the Wehrmacht officers. The passage about Romanians specifically explains their behavior to some extent.

    Aliens from the distant past
    Such a Romanian army appeared before the Wehrmacht Major Helmut Welz. He described in detail the events of the day when he assumed command of the two Romanian companies. The serfdom reigning in them shocked the officer: “Before me there are two gentlemen in high winter Romanian hats. These are the commanders of two Romanian companies subordinate to me. A whole cloud of cologne envelops them. Despite their mustache, they look pretty broad-minded. The features of their tanned faces with plump and shaved cheeks are blurry. The uniforms are neat and reminiscent of either winter sports, or five-o-clock or Piccadilly: the cut is impeccable, fit like a glove, you can immediately see that their fashionable Bucharest tailors sewed them. Sheepskin coats over the uniforms. After I saw the demoralized, running Romanian units in the big bend of the Don, their appearance amazes me. I never expected such a well-fed and well-dressed reinforcement. ” A few hours later it turned out that only the Romanian officers were well-fed, well-dressed, with painted eyelashes and eyelids: “Around, like shadows, emaciated soldiers - exhausted, tired, unshaven, overgrown with mud. The uniforms are worn out, the greatcoats too. We meet bandages on heads, legs and arms at every step - the doctor's face expresses despair ... We turn a corner, and I stop rooted to the spot. I can’t believe my eyes: in front of me is a smoky field kitchen, carefully built-in, protected from the wind by plank walls from the sides, and upstairs, with his sleeves rolled up to his elbows, Captain Popescu sits and in the sweat of his brow stir the soup with a rolling pin. ” In the evening, Welz learned from the Romanian soldiers, “that it was no coincidence that Popescu was working at the boiler of the field kitchen today, he does it every day. He distributes dry rations himself, cooks himself, gives out food himself. He has his own special system here. First of all, the officers' pots are filled with meat and beans, almost without liquid. Then the turn of the non-commissioned officers. They catch the rest of the grounds out of the boiler. And all that remains is warm tasteless water goes to the rank and file ... Instead of missing food, beatings. Corporal punishment has not yet been abolished in the Romanian army. Even for the slightest offense, the offender is put on a bench and flogged. This old method has not been abandoned even now, after severe battles and panic retreat. The soldier will still receive his portion of the beatings - it doesn't matter whether he is wounded or sick, frostbitten or even amputated. "
    And here is the testimony of the American journalist and writer Edgar Snow, who recorded his conversation with Aleksandr Nikolai, who was taken prisoner at Kotelnikov: “He was disposed to talk and readily cursed the Germans. “We never wanted to fight the Russians,” he said. “It was the officers and the corrupt government that forced us. Now even the officers do not like the war. At home, the Germans rule our country, at the front they command our army. ” Nicolai remembered the difference between German and Romanian rations to the nearest gram. “The Germans get eight hundred grams of bread a day, and we get five hundred; they are given six cigarettes, and we are given three; they drink vodka and brandy, and if a Romanian asks them for a drink, they kick him or hit him on the head. ” "Then why are you fighting, Nikolai?" “I'll tell you why. If you do not obey the order, you will receive twenty-five lashes in your ass. I got my twenty-five lashes, I won't forget for a long time! It's good that I was captured. " Captivity saved his life. He was a simple peasant - one of those who, according to the correct remark of the Moldovan historian Sergei Nazarii, “had no reason to show enthusiasm,” fighting for interests alien to him. In the "cauldron" the Germans took the horses from the Romanian cavalry, the meat of which they later ate. Looking at this, the Romanians were indignant and ... swallowed drool. The losses of Romania at Stalingrad, according to the statement of the dictator Yon Antonescu, amounted to 300 thousand people.

    "Second-class troops. How Germany's allies fought at Stalingrad."
    Source: https://www.solidarnost.org/articles/articles_444.html
    The central trade union newspaper "Solidarity" ©
  • Konnick
    Konnick 22 February 2021 21: 30
    0
    I will repeat my comment, while the Romanian soldiers were poor, the Romanian officers flaunted.

    "He's some kind of sugary, tinted all over, powdered like a woman ... One word - Romanian ..."

    The phrase from the film Brat2 Balabanov became famous, but few people know its origin, Alexey Balabanov was very well-read - read the paragraph from N.N. Voronov, Marshal of Artillery, this happened during the liberation of Bessarabia in 1940.

    “The next day, at one of the intersections, I met a car with two Romanian officers and an interpreter. They came up to me and reproached me: our troops were moving too fast. painted faces, and one of them even had a black front sight on his cheek. Characters from the operetta, and nothing more! "
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 24 February 2021 12: 50
    -1

    Somewhere there are leather leggings: 1942 Romanian prisoners in the Caucasus
  • Grossvater
    Grossvater 25 February 2021 11: 50
    0
    Thank! An interesting series of articles. To be honest, I was never interested in uniforms.
    Through the Romanians, since such a bazaar has already started.
    Mom's, Kingdom of Heaven, memories.
    Kazan, right after the war.
    "The Germans, people are like people. They worked. They drove them almost without an escort, they fed us children. Either a crust of bread, or a piece of sugar. It’s not that Romanians, from which part they were, is unknown. But healthy and angry how dogs. They were only taken under escort, with machine guns. Worked, of course, sucks. "