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"Often the ride turned into drift": US Marines talked about exercises in the Arctic region

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The US military command of the Marine Corps spoke about the maneuvers in the Arctic. We are talking about military exercises in the north of Norway, in which American troops were involved. One of the components of the maneuvers was the training of army drivers. These trainings took place a few days ago in the area of ​​the Norwegian town of Setermoen. It is about 380 km from the Russian borders.


The maneuvers reportedly involved US Marines from the Rotary Force in Europe (MRF-E). They were engaged in tactical training in driving army vehicles in arctic conditions.
Among other exercises for American drivers from the Marine Corps units, overcoming snow and ice on selected routes.

One of the Marines participating in the exercise in northern Norway:

Often, the ride turned into drift. Heavy armored vehicles skidded around corners, if there was even a slight excess of speed. Driving a Humvee in such terrain is extremely difficult. We need special skills, which we trained together with NATO partners.

Among the training exercises - the passage of army pickups through the line of obstacles, including the so-called "snake".

In total, over 1 US Marines were involved in the exercise in northern Norway, including up to two companies from the US ILC Second Expeditionary Force.

One of the stages of the exercises in the arctic region:



What prevented the American Marines from conducting such exercises at home - for example, in Alaska, is not reported.

Earlier, the Norwegian press published materials in which the authors noted that American exercises in northern Norway could cause a deterioration in Norwegian-Russian relations. Pragmatic Norwegian authors note that it is extremely important for Oslo to maintain good-neighborly relations with Moscow, and not to go to confrontation.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 18 February 2021 13: 11
    +3
    No bib at hand, wipe the yankees of this Yankee! He would have pranced along our taiga "autobahns" on our regular military Oise, the Norwegian track would have seemed like child's play for sure!
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 18 February 2021 13: 20
      +4
      The Yankees did not know that winter is not only green, but also white)
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 18 February 2021 13: 39
        +1
        And that rubber for cars exists not only all-season, but also winter.
        I met videos where Americans look with surprise and incomprehension at the fact that the car on the snow or icy road does not slow down. And this is weird. For example, in Washington, how hello at this time freezing rains. But they do not change the rubber and wear slippers.
  2. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 18 February 2021 13: 11
    +2
    Desert tires in the arctic won't drive much, especially after a long snowfall
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 18 February 2021 13: 24
      +2
      Desert tires in the arctic won't drive much
      It somehow doesn't always work out in the desert wassat
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 February 2021 14: 01
        0
        This is how you had to twist to turn the Humvee ... in the desert ... on a flat road.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 19 February 2021 06: 31
          0
          How do we race with them in Syria? There you will not only turn over, you will even change your shoes wassat
  3. mark2
    mark2 18 February 2021 13: 12
    0
    What prevented the American Marines from conducting such exercises at home - for example, in Alaska, is not reported

    Weird question. Of course, the rampant hyperactivity of the United States itself and of course the Russian threat prevented it.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 18 February 2021 13: 26
      0
      Quote: mark2
      What prevented the American Marines from conducting such exercises at home - for example, in Alaska, is not reported

      Weird question. Of course, the rampant hyperactivity of the United States itself and of course the Russian threat prevented it.

      Well yes! They are not going to fight at home, nor are they going to defend democracy from aggressive Russians, who are within easy reach in Alaska. But to embroil Norway with Russia is a quite possible "idea". Suddenly the Russian Federation on Norway "will be offended that she allowed the exercises! As there Zadornov said about amers" Well, stupid! "
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 18 February 2021 13: 17
    0
    In Murmansk I rode an all-knowing one, no problem. And in Sochi, I didn’t ride a spike. Probably the temperature affects me.
  5. Konnick
    Konnick 18 February 2021 13: 19
    +5
    The Hummer has an all-wheel drive transmission with a free differential, there are no locks, so driving on ice turns into a circus performance, the oversteer periodically changes from oversteer to understeer and this is not predictable, so a controlled drift is difficult to achieve. To overcome difficult terrain on the Hummer, it is recommended to use accelerator-braking modulation, i.e. press the brake and gas at the same time, fortunately, a 3-speed automatic transmission and an engine with good torque allows you to do this, and applying this method on the Hummer, all 4 wheels row at the same time and its permeability is excellent with a ground clearance of 40 cm, for example, the Ural's clearance is 36 cm ... But with high-speed maneuvering, it is difficult to use this method.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 18 February 2021 13: 23
      -3
      Quote: Konnick
      using this method on the Hummer, all 4 wheels row at the same time.

      better on the old "field" ...
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 18 February 2021 13: 39
        0
        I wrote this about the first generation, now they use an automatic 4-mortar and Thorsen differentials (variable friction). For example, these differentials were used by the Audi Allroad, but such differentials are expensive to manufacture, so they are rarely used.
        I tried to use AT modulation on the Niva, but there it is necessary to turn off the vacuum brake booster, and the power cannot be compared.
    2. tarabar
      tarabar 18 February 2021 13: 38
      +1
      press brake and gas simultaneously

      I heard about this technique 25 years ago in relation to Hammer, but this is only as an imitation of a pseudo-blocking of an interwheel differential on the road. But I don’t know how to apply it during extreme driving, you have to dosed work with both legs and hands at the same time with only one point of support on the butt. I think no one bothers there, gas on the floor, more noise, more dust, everything is cowboy-like.
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 18 February 2021 13: 45
        +2
        I wrote about the fact that high-speed maneuvering is difficult, for ice and other slippery surfaces for a controlled skid, an interaxle lock or a rigid connection of the front axle is needed, like on a UAZ.
    3. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 18 February 2021 15: 32
      0
      Quote: Konnick
      those. press brake and gas at the same time,

      I understand that on rear-wheel drive it will be a handbrake and gas?
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 18 February 2021 15: 36
        +2
        Yes, only the handbrake does not properly dose the braking force. The friction of the brake compensates for the difference in friction between the different wheels, equalizing the torque. I will add a little about the UAZ, the military version has wheel planetary gearboxes, thanks to which the size is reduced and the planetary spaced around the wheels turns a regular differential into a limited slip differential. Military bridges increase the vehicle's cross-country ability well, but reduce the roll-forward. The Hammer also has wheel gears, but they are made as on the TPK (front end conveyor) or LuAZ, but they significantly increase the ground clearance. It turns out that the Americans used our idea.
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 18 February 2021 15: 40
          0
          Quote: Konnick
          Yes, only the handbrake does not properly dose the braking force.

          Clear. But for a car (like our "Zhiguli") that is a little stuck on a slippery road, this method can help to get out on a normal road?
          1. Konnick
            Konnick 18 February 2021 15: 46
            +1
            Should help, only the pads can be burned.
  6. cniza
    cniza 18 February 2021 13: 24
    +1
    Earlier, the Norwegian press published materials in which the authors noted that American exercises in northern Norway could cause a deterioration in Norwegian-Russian relations. Pragmatic Norwegian authors note that it is extremely important for Oslo to maintain good-neighborly relations with Moscow, and not to go to confrontation.


    Normal people understand everything, but US politicians are chasing like deer ...
  7. HAM
    HAM 18 February 2021 13: 37
    0
    And that they flooded to Norway, they now have the steepest training ground at home.
    "Are you warm, girl? Are you striped warm?" @
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 18 February 2021 13: 40
    +1
    Actually, they train.
    So this is reasonable, but .... yes, it's not scary, not at all.
  9. evgen1221
    evgen1221 18 February 2021 14: 21
    +1
    Well, it’s not on dry asphalt with a powerful machine to anneal rubber, there is ice and snow, but they are accustomed to the sneaker style on the floor.
  10. askort154
    askort154 18 February 2021 15: 00
    -2
    They were engaged in tactical training in driving army vehicles in arctic conditions.

    Look through the history of the Second World War, as "the great German army", got stuck in the mud-drifts of the Moscow region, after which it fled to Berlin.
    And you, the Anglo-Saxons, are going to fight with Russia in the Arctic on wheeled vehicles. You just ... would! fool
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 18 February 2021 16: 02
      +1
      Ours are also going to use pneumatic-wheeled vehicles in the Arctic, an all-terrain vehicle called Burlak, assembled in Kurgan.