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"Russia's destabilizing policy": the head of the Pentagon named the main challenges to NATO

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"Russia's destabilizing policy": the head of the Pentagon named the main challenges to NATO

Russia's "destabilizing" policy is one of the main challenges facing NATO. This was stated by US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, according to a statement released by the Pentagon.


Speaking at a meeting of the heads of the NATO countries' defense departments, the head of the Pentagon said that the alliance is currently facing numerous threats and challenges, among which the main one is the destabilizing behavior of Russia, as well as the "gaining strength" China, terrorism and global challenges such as coronavirus and terrorism.

Against this background, he thanked NATO countries for growing defense spending for the seventh year already, urging them not to reduce them in the future, since funds are needed to "ensure the readiness of NATO forces and assets to solve Russian-related problems and confront other challenges."

Minister Austin noted that defense spending is urgently needed to ensure the availability of the ready-made capabilities needed to meet Russia and other NATO challenges.

- said in a statement.

The head of the US Department of Defense assured NATO allies that the US intends to "revive relations" with the alliance, and adherence to Article 5 of the NATO charter "remains unbreakable."

Earlier, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg announced the readiness of the alliance to adopt a new strategy, the basis of which will be the confrontation of the main opponents - Russia and China.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 18 February 2021 09: 43
    +18
    "Russia's destabilizing policy": the head of the Pentagon named the main challenges to NATO
    Long thought? However, it is not necessary for the gibberish to think, everything has long been invented for them, in England.
    1. Temples
      Temples 18 February 2021 09: 50
      +20
      Russia does not threaten Africa!
      Why is this negro preoccupied with the Russian threat?

      He is not being informed correctly.

      Let him go to Africa and ask the locals.


      On the face of the seizure of America by blacks.
      The indigenous population is driven into reservations, and the negroes rule the American continent.

      Scary.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 18 February 2021 10: 14
        +3
        Quote: Temples
        Russia does not threaten Africa!

        Yes, we are lifeguards. Libya, CAR, etc. hi
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 18 February 2021 11: 22
          +3
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Quote: Temples
          Russia does not threaten Africa!

          Yes, we are lifeguards. Libya, CAR, etc. hi

          Let's just say not rescuers, but we have our own interest and have designated our presence, so that the mattresses do not think that they have a monopoly on the entire planet.
          On the other hand, this dark loam once again confirmed that the unipolar world no longer exists, clearly identifying two poles of global confrontation - the United States and "Co." = Russia and China.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 18 February 2021 21: 29
            0
            Everything - in American way - is true: if they don't kneel down and don't bow, then they will destabilize !!!
      2. businessv
        businessv 18 February 2021 10: 55
        +2
        Quote: Temples
        Let him go to Africa and ask the locals.

        Why would he go home? They may not be released back! wink
      3. old man
        old man 18 February 2021 13: 57
        +2
        FREEDOM !!! WHITE in the USA !!!! fellow
    2. Finches
      Finches 18 February 2021 10: 16
      +12
      Now the Pentagon is called Uncle Tom's hut behind the backs laughing As for his statement, this is another addition to a new round of deliberate military escalation! I, as a whole, as a Marxist, recently (relatively recently) re-read Stalin's work: "The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR" I will allow myself to remind that in it Iosif Vissarionovich developed Marx's law on surplus value in relation to the conditions of monopoly capitalism and clearly defined that monopoly capitalism does not require any profit, but only maximum profit, this is very important !, only maximum profit is the main and main condition for the development of monopoly capitalism. Hence the following conclusions follow - the struggle of large capitalist hucksters (transnational corporations) for sales markets, raw materials, transport corridors (all kinds of silk roads), etc. in order to maximize profits are the main causes of most local wars, armed conflicts, color revolutions(I highlighted this for fans of Navalny and lovers of boats of all stripes) and grabs today. But there are too many big players on the world stage, so there is only one way to solve the issue of achieving maximum profit - world war! But, for now, it’s stupid ...
      1. Runway
        Runway 18 February 2021 10: 43
        -11%
        A hut or a yurt, a secondary question. "Comrade" Negro has a good education and quite a decent track record, which others (including the GRF Shoigu S.) may envy.
        1. Finches
          Finches 18 February 2021 10: 49
          +6
          Why is your statement? That you generally disapprove of my innocent joke, or to emphasize that our Minister of Defense is not worthy - who are you playing for, dear?
          1. Runway
            Runway 18 February 2021 10: 53
            -11%
            Don't be like a "political worker".
            1. Finches
              Finches 18 February 2021 10: 56
              +8
              Do not be like a cheap provocateur!
              1. Temples
                Temples 18 February 2021 11: 12
                +6
                Quote: WFP
                the Negro has a good education and quite a worthy track record, which others (including the GRF Shoigu S.) may envy.

                The Negro was among those who directed the aggression in Iraq.
                Millions of Iraqis died on it.
                The result of his actions in Iraq was the terrorism of the ISIS.

                Then the black man sailed from the armed forces and moved to the board of directors of a corporation that produces weapons.

                Now the Negro was put in charge of the Pentagon - he will provide sales of the products of the corporation in which he worked.

                There is nothing to envy.
                Valor here is zero.

                One loot.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 18 February 2021 11: 14
                  +5
                  WFP, just a provocateur or a troll, of which there are a lot of divorced on VO, which undoubtedly speaks of the popularity of the resource! hi
                  1. Runway
                    Runway 18 February 2021 11: 18
                    -7
                    Expected response.
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 18 February 2021 11: 25
                      +6
                      How do you want? Explain, please! You spoke with enthusiasm about the minister of our potential enemy and immediately dismissed our minister ... Whatever Shoigu was, but this is the Minister of Defense of Russia! So let me keep myself in hand! hi
                      1. Runway
                        Runway 18 February 2021 12: 04
                        -4
                        If your framework of perception is limited to “ours are scouts, theirs are spies,” why waste time explaining the obvious things.
                        You, as a Marxist, are not “surprised” that you live in a country of “victorious capitalism” and the aspirations of “capital” in the person of former “members” of the CPSU (not communists) and “Komsomol members” are “mirror-like” to your rebuffs from their foreign colleagues and are directed both outside and inland?
                        Now for the Negro:
                        - look at the list of his predecessors - a Negro, the third, a career military Yankee Defense Ministry since Marshall, who has passed all stages of military service.
                        Further explain the chain?
                      2. Finches
                        Finches 18 February 2021 12: 07
                        +5
                        Nothing surprises me, because history does not know the subjunctive mood and I have nothing against the negro, but as a career officer who has given almost 30 years of service in the Army, I ask you to speak more accurately about the current Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation! And yes - ours, these are scouts, and theirs are spies! hi
                      3. Runway
                        Runway 18 February 2021 12: 43
                        -3
                        I don't need your "calendars", my own is enough. To Shoigu S.K. I am calm, the third stage of reforms (SNF -100% novelty in the area of ​​arms and military equipment) lay on its side, there are more “happy people”, but these are trifles.
                      4. Finches
                        Finches 18 February 2021 12: 49
                        +4
                        I mean that for me the word "honor" of an officer is not an empty phrase, no matter how pretentious it may sound - therefore, to see how our Minister of Defense is hated, while praising the minister of our enemy, I think it is not appropriate and not right ... Most likely You are a provocateur, but if you also served, then this is simply shameful! Let's part for this!
                      5. Runway
                        Runway 18 February 2021 13: 19
                        -5
                        Behind the parapet ...
  • old man
    old man 18 February 2021 14: 00
    +2
    FREEDOM WHITE in the USA !!! Down with BLM and blacks !!! am
  • yehat2
    yehat2 18 February 2021 10: 44
    +1
    Quote: Finches
    for fans of Navalny and boat looters

    I'll just remind the personalities of the boat looters
    this is the name given to teachers, miners, guest workers, regularly organizing strikes, workers deceived by the employer, equity holders, pensioners, whose pensions are below the subsistence level, I quote the official "because they are all quitters and drunks" and other constantly oppressed citizens.
    And now they are shaking the boat, but those who create the conditions for the explosion - no?
    After all, Navalny essentially only reminds of what is happening, he has no political program and I am sure that he is working for the grouping of one of our oligarchs, Kiriyenko.
    Remember this super successful premiere?
    What you read to Stalin is fine, but your conclusions and illegibility are frightening.
    1. Finches
      Finches 18 February 2021 10: 50
      +1
      I also ask you, what do you propose to do?
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 18 February 2021 10: 58
        -1
        to carry out the first stage of self-organization of political forces, which took place in RI between 1905 and 1915
        so that deputies appear again, representing the people and their interests and having influence in local councils. These are the same, set the teeth on edge, political meetings, reading newspapers and articles, mugs, thousandth tea drinking and feeding pigeons. This will lead to the fact that a significant part of the population realizes the need to put forward their demands, both purely social and political, and begin to defend them and demand an answer from the elected deputies and will not waste their energy on the war with the security forces, Ukrainian races and other nonsense.
        And if in Ingushetia the share of the mobile proletariat was only about 4-7% and this was enough for the revolution, now it is over 70%.
        1. Finches
          Finches 18 February 2021 11: 02
          +4
          I can agree with self-organization in the localities, but this requires a political force that the majority of the population trusts, and there is no such force in Russia today! And even among the proletariat, the diversity of opinions is very high. Medium business is generally against the revolution, and there is nothing to say about big business! In fact, out of the 70% - 68% you named, heroes are only on the Internet, where they calmly talk about the world revolution and once an hour take Winter ..., scratch their tongues on the keys and pour mud on the authorities! The leftist movement today has neither a party nor a charismatic leader with an unblemished reputation! And, as grandfather Lenin taught us, it is not enough to take power, it still needs to be retained!
  • businessv
    businessv 18 February 2021 10: 50
    -1
    Quote: Finches
    there can only be one way - world war! But, for now, it’s stupid ...
    I didn’t think that today we will be able to discuss an alternative to war - after all, the war provides for several sides of participation, so it’s really creepy, but there is another way, namely, the world revolution, which will take place in each individual country, which means less risky for the world ! smile As Lenin had suggested, but Trotsky was simply choked with this idea! They were not so wrong, as it turns out?
    1. Finches
      Finches 18 February 2021 10: 52
      +2
      I didn't quite get your idea, but you pushed me to remember Lenin's grandfather, who noted the inextricable link between state-monopoly capitalism and militarism, and now he found this phrase - "... imperialism ..., according to its economic fundamental properties, is distinguished by the least peacefulness and love of freedom, the greatest and widespread development of the military"
      1. businessv
        businessv 18 February 2021 11: 09
        0
        Quote: Finches
        Didn't quite get your idea

        My idea is to support the idea of ​​a world revolution as an alternative to the third world war, colleague. smile I just never considered this idea from the point of view that you pushed me to! fellow
        1. Finches
          Finches 18 February 2021 11: 16
          +2
          hi Post-modern Trotskyism - world revolution as an alternative to imperialist world massacre!
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 18 February 2021 10: 16
    +3
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Long thought? However, it is not necessary for the gibberish to think, everything has long been invented for them, in England.

    And what can the sleds come up with?
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 18 February 2021 09: 44
    +11
    he thanked the NATO countries for growing defense spending for the seventh year, urging them not to reduce them in the future,

    Give, give.
    Give me money.
    Give-give-give-give-give-give-give-give (C)
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 18 February 2021 09: 57
      +2
      It is strange that he thanked, and did not scold that little.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 18 February 2021 09: 59
      +3
      destabilizing behavior of Russia, as well as "gaining strength" China, terrorism and global challenges such as coronavirus and terrorism.
      Terrorism is already two times - understandable! Coronavirus - understandable! China is understandable! It is not clear what is destabilizing Russia by its behavior? And who are the global challenges? repeat
      1. napalm
        napalm 18 February 2021 14: 42
        +2
        Terrorism is already two times - understandable! Coronavirus - understandable! China is understandable! It is not clear what is destabilizing Russia by its behavior? And who are the global challenges?
        Russia destabilizes by its existence, not by its behavior. Starting with Ivan the Terrible approximately. Global challenges are probably the existence of Russia again. Although, as an independent player from anyone and not dependent on anything in a large modern game, Russia is somehow difficult to name. Siberia must belong ... and. a type.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 February 2021 10: 19
      +2
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Give, give.
      Give me money.

      All the same song to the words of the "Abba" ensemble - Money, Money, Money!
  • Cron
    Cron 18 February 2021 09: 48
    +10
    The stabilizing policy of Russia prevents NATO from destabilizing the world. Well, if we call a spade a spade
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 18 February 2021 10: 00
      +2
      Cron (Cron)
      Today, 09: 48
      NEW
      +1
      The stabilizing policy of Russia prevents NATO from destabilizing the world. Well, if we call a spade a spade
      And whoever will allow him to do this will instantly fly from his post. wink without pension.
      1. Destiny
        Destiny 18 February 2021 10: 09
        +13
        NATO is the main reason for the destabilization of the world.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 18 February 2021 10: 21
          +9
          Quote: Destiny
          NATO is the main reason for the destabilization of the world.

          I see that the liberals are outraged by your words. (mine will also start now).
        2. businessv
          businessv 18 February 2021 10: 44
          +7
          Quote: Destiny
          NATO is the main reason for the destabilization of the world.
          An absolutely indisputable statement, in my opinion! good drinks
  • lucul
    lucul 18 February 2021 09: 48
    +4
    "Russia's destabilizing policy": the head of the Pentagon named the main challenges to NATO

    Yo man)))
  • mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 18 February 2021 09: 49
    +5
    Of course. It is logical. It is the US Secretary of Defense who should make such loud statements about the NATO threat from Russia. After all, it is the US military-industrial complex that sets the "NATO standards"; it is they who have the main income from the "partners" for the sale of military equipment to them.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 18 February 2021 09: 52
      +2
      It has long been clear to everyone that NATO is not a military bloc but a trading platform for states. And threats do not need to come up with a lot of intelligence. This will be forgotten over time, they will start to frighten you with something else. The system is as old as the world
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 February 2021 10: 23
      0
      Quote: mojohed2012
      It is the US Secretary of Defense who should make such loud statements about the NATO threat from Russia.

      Easier to say, "promotes an American brand."
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 February 2021 09: 50
    +3
    So what's new? Give me money, we won't defend for free ...
    I especially like "China, which is gaining strength" ... It has already surpassed the United States, and they all think that it will be possible to pull off a feint with it, as with Japan ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 February 2021 10: 27
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      I especially like the "rising China" ..

      For them, China is like a 10-year-old hooligan running around Harlem with a penknife.
      They missed the bully already became a gangster.
  • pyagomail.ru
    pyagomail.ru 18 February 2021 09: 50
    +4
    HOW to explain to them that as war booty we do not need either the Balts, or Poland, or Norway with Finland and Sweden (it is not clear, these are sometimes excited?), But we have no complaints about the decent countries of old Europe, we are ready to cooperate and trade. There is nowhere to put money and you want many, many ships, airplanes, tanks, so you need a reason, as it were - evil aggressive Russia?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 February 2021 10: 28
      0
      Quote: pyagomail.ru
      as war booty we do not need neither the Balts, nor Poland, nor Norway with Finland and Sweden (it is not clear, are these things that are periodically excited?)

      In a wolf pack, everyone should howl, with one voice, at the moon.
  • BIABIA
    BIABIA 18 February 2021 09: 50
    +2
    Destabilized by undemocratic discontent that American bases are scattered around the world. And near the borders of Russia, the concentration is high. How dare you be unhappy at all ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 18 February 2021 09: 53
    +2
    Russia's "destabilizing" policy is one of the main challenges

    that's why the pike is in the pond, so that the crucian carp does not greyhound without measure!
    1. cniza
      cniza 18 February 2021 10: 24
      +3
      They do not know such sayings, which is a pity.
      Good time! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 February 2021 10: 48
        +1
        Welcome soldier
        So they have a "star of America" ​​.... burns / shines. But who has it stuck where? In different ways, and far from all it is in the forehead, some are much lower.
        1. cniza
          cniza 18 February 2021 11: 08
          +2
          Most of all I like what they say - they shout in moments of danger: - save your asses, and we - save your souls, that's the whole difference ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 18 February 2021 11: 13
            +1
            Well, yes, who has where it is stuck, the center and the meaning is!
  • Gato
    Gato 18 February 2021 09: 53
    +2
    Hollywood movies come true. What is not a general is a nigra. It is a pity that no one remembers "Red Dawn" anymore.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 February 2021 10: 29
      +1
      Quote: Gato
      Hollywood movies come true. What is not a general is a nigra.

      So Hollywood probably takes everything from American life.
      1. Gato
        Gato 18 February 2021 11: 57
        0
        So Hollywood probably takes everything from American life.

        It was probably sarcasm.
        It seems that Hollywood takes everything from the dreams of writers with an inferiority complex at puberty. Superheroes, supermen, super blondes with super busts, in general "a bike with boobs."
        A nation of teenagers who never matured.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 18 February 2021 12: 43
          0
          Quote: Gato
          It seems that Hollywood takes everything from the dreams of writers with an inferiority complex at puberty.

          Yes, it was already disgusting, watching their films, everywhere Afros, gays and lesbians. If I look at that old, 90s and earlier.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 18 February 2021 09: 54
    -1
    Take the Negroid Autophylation Pose!
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 February 2021 09: 57
    +1
    Russia's "destabilizing" policy
    Blah, blah, blah ... and all about one thing. Really boring, well, at least a little creative was introduced into their fiery-inviting performances. I was born in the USSR many years ago, so I cannot be a racist by definition, but looking at today's American blacks (Yankees), mulattos (ok) in positions and actors, an aversion to these, to put it mildly, "not quite white" is formed. Where did they get such hatred for Russia? Position and trend oblige?
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 February 2021 09: 58
    0
    the head of the Pentagon said
    Well, nothing new in Merikatosia !!! laughing Only hari flicker when changing preziks, and so - everything is like in the 19th century. laughing
  • askort154
    askort154 18 February 2021 09: 58
    0
    .... the main thing is the destabilizing behavior of Russia, as well as the "gaining strength" China, ...

    Russia was overlaid with "natostras", but China is not yet.
    It is time to admit to NATO: Mongolia, the DPRK, South Korea, Japan, Vietnam, and India and Pakistan. yes
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 18 February 2021 10: 08
      0
      Quote: askort154
      Russia was overlaid with "natostras", but China is not yet.

      Chavoy then no?
      And Korea and Japan have long and tightly under the Americans, as well as the Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand ...
      Vietnam and India are now actively cultivating.
      With Pakistan, they really had a problem, the Chinese were able to intercept.
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 18 February 2021 09: 58
    +1
    A stabilizing policy is when, sticking out their tongue to a shine, they lick the butt of the Americans.
  • cniza
    cniza 18 February 2021 10: 23
    +4
    Speaking at a meeting of the heads of defense departments of NATO countries, the head of the Pentagon said that the alliance is currently facing numerous threats and challenges, among which the main one is Russia's destabilizing behavior.


    Everything is carbon copy, but it's time to talk about it:

    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 18 February 2021 10: 28
      0
      Quote: cniza
      American Nazism killed 100 million Indians

      No, that's right Anglo-Saxon.
      And if, besides the American Indians, you count Asians, Africans and other "natives", then Hitler and his thugs are just childish pranks.
      1. cniza
        cniza 18 February 2021 10: 31
        +1
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        Quote: cniza
        American Nazism killed 100 million Indians

        No, that's right Anglo-Saxon.


        Between them equals sign ... yes
      2. yehat2
        yehat2 18 February 2021 11: 09
        -1
        the whole of Europe took part in colonization, and the Russian Empire too.
        The French and the Spaniards also distinguished themselves by bloody showdowns, although in comparison with the Naglo-Saxons they are mere children.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 18 February 2021 10: 31
    +1
    They milk the mattresses to Nat as they want) all the tsytski have already pulled back bully
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 18 February 2021 10: 32
    0
    Another general making himself Kin-Kong. Although, outwardly, it is even very similar!
    What should I say to him? Your song is old, oh ... it's time!
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 18 February 2021 10: 40
    0
    The main challenge for NATO is brain dysfunction of senior management. Even Macron confirmed this. They have only two convolutions left there, how to grab more and who to blame. fellow
  • businessv
    businessv 18 February 2021 10: 40
    0
    Russia's "destabilizing" policy is one of the main challenges facing NATO. This was stated by US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin
    Personally, I cannot distinguish an African from an African-American, there are no skills, so I call them in the old fashioned way, blacks, may the liberals forgive me. Does this black man call our age-old traditions a destabilizing policy of our country? Rejection by our majority of pederasty, transsexualism, homosexuality and commitment to family values? I constantly remember the immortal creations of M.M. Zhvanetsky: "You don't like the smell? Why is the smell good? I don't like the way it smells, go to hell, and the smell will stay in place!" (c) Leave us alone, dear "partners", find another "friendly" country against which NATO will be friends!
  • yehat2
    yehat2 18 February 2021 11: 06
    -1
    Quote: Finches
    but this requires a political force that is trusted by the majority of the population

    You have rearranged the cart and horse.
    political force will not appear out of nowhere, it can grow only after the stage I have indicated. I didn’t say what it would be - Marxism, capitalism, Judaism or idiocy, or a combination of both.
    society itself must determine what political forces will emerge as a result of the PROCESS.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 18 February 2021 11: 08
    0
    Quote: Finches
    I can agree with self-organization on the ground

    on the other hand, the employer, who has received, thanks to progress, total control over his property and territories, will not agree.
  • megadeth
    megadeth 18 February 2021 11: 19
    0
    There would be no Russia, there would be China, India ... but at least Limpopo with one inhabitant, Barmaley, the main production and sale of weapons and green candy wrappers.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 18 February 2021 11: 31
    -1
    Quote: Finches
    In fact, of the 70% - 68% you named, the heroes are only on the Internet, where they calmly talk about the world revolution and once an hour take the Winter

    they are for the most part brainless and illiterate. This needs to be changed first.
    Without this, there can be no political force more than a gang of several people.
    Moreover, you should not blame them for such a state - many are spinning like squirrels in a wheel, not knowing how to change it and not understanding what they can do. We need conditional "preachers" who will spread the culture of politics in society, who will explain that a specific bourgeois, a specific problem is only part of the system and it will not change without changing the entire system. That demanding "higher wages" is as pointless as demanding less rain near a cloud.
  • GAndr
    GAndr 18 February 2021 12: 36
    0
    That the Negro affords?
  • iouris
    iouris 18 February 2021 12: 48
    0
    This is probably black racism. Incidentally, Catholic Irish extremists and corrupt officials first came to power in Washington. The Vatican project?
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 18 February 2021 13: 45
    +1
    And was there anyone who was brighter for this position? ..
  • Split
    Split 18 February 2021 19: 37
    +1
    Once Nata promised not to come close to us, and now a pack of people are walking around your yard. It is clear that the boys of our yard are armed ... cause and effect, even Einstein postulated it! exactly postulated, there was no evidence, but the whole universe works on this principle! And the opposite has not been found ... and I am still surprised ... it seems that knowledge of physics is not needed for the head of the pintagon, the main thing is that ala psaka

    We have a Commander-in-Chief, and they have a head ... what to take from them repeat Straight brothers Wachowski, even then the foreskin of the pintagon would then speak ... even though the masculine word was