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"Deviation from the docking axis": "Progress MS-16" docked to the ISS in manual mode

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"Deviation from the docking axis": "Progress MS-16" docked to the ISS in manual mode

The Progress MS-16 cargo vehicle docked with the International Space Station, delivering almost 2,5 tons of various cargoes into orbit. This was reported by the press service of Roscosmos.


Docking of Progress to the ISS was carried out in manual mode, although initially this process should have been automatic.

According to the plans, the spacecraft was supposed to dock to the Pirs module of the ISS at 9:20, however, 20 meters from the station, a television "picture" suddenly disappeared, after which the Russian crew received a command from Earth to dock manually. Following instructions from the Mission Control Center near Moscow, cosmonaut Sergei Ryzhikov docked the cargo ship to the station. The docking took place at 9:26.

As explained in Roskosmos, the transition to manual mode was required due to the deviation of the ship from the berthing axis. In manual mode, the docking took place normally.

During the docking, Progress MS-16 TGC deviated from the berthing axis

- said in a statement.

It is noted that the Progress cargo spacecraft dock with the ISS in an automatic mode, but the Russian cosmonauts have the appropriate equipment for manual docking in case of any situation, or if this is provided for by the flight plan.

Freight Progress delivered fuel for the ISS, drinking water, and about 1400 kg of various equipment and materials, including patches for cracks, to the space station.
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  1. Finches
    Finches 17 February 2021 10: 43
    -13%
    "... due to the deviation of the ship from the berthing axis" - here is another informational reason for the 5th column to start yelling that Rogozin ruined everything, and Putin sold everything! laughing
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 17 February 2021 10: 48
      +19
      During the docking, Progress MS-16 TGC deviated from the berthing axis
      No more pouring for the programmer !!! fool And so, flew well. How are the flyers there? Landing from a place where you can leave with your feet is considered soft.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 18 February 2021 14: 13
        0
        How are the flyers there? Landing from a place where you can leave with your feet is considered soft.
        more precisely, "when the mouth is not full of earth" !!!
    2. Invoce
      Invoce 17 February 2021 10: 52
      +6
      There is no doubt that Rogozin, a journalist by training, has destroyed RosKosmos.
      Has Putin sold EVERYTHING? I do not presume to argue, but I did nothing to suppress the vicious practice of appointing relatives of "influential" persons to leading positions in state corporations, banks, executive bodies, legislative bodies, law enforcement agencies. The results of their work, "serving" not to Russia, but to someone personally, perhaps to their loved ones, mainly lead to economic and reputational losses for the country ...
      1. Finches
        Finches 17 February 2021 10: 58
        -12%
        Well, it smelled of sorosyat again! laughing
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 17 February 2021 11: 12
          +6
          Since when have common sense and Soros become synonymous?
          1. Finches
            Finches 17 February 2021 11: 14
            -11%
            In the upside-down world of liberals and Judas is quoted above Christ! laughing
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 17 February 2021 11: 20
              +5
              Judging by the loyal remarks, you do not need the truth in any form. In a share?
              And you respect Soros, you respect him.
              1. Finches
                Finches 17 February 2021 11: 59
                -9
                That's just for sane remarks ... And you, "fighters" against the totalitarian regime are interesting to read! Runs here on VO swinging cardboard sabers, but the exhaust is zero! The only thing that always surprises me is how one must not love one's country in order to constantly throw mud at it! This is apparently some kind of disease? Not?
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 17 February 2021 12: 47
                  -1
                  I am not a fighter against totalitarianism, for he is a totalitarian, who has overestimated liberal democracy.
                  But I can't stand your compradors. Here you have correctly noticed. Therefore, I do not miss an opportunity to call a thief a thief and remind that all thieves, regardless of the size of what they stole, should be in prison, and not just those who stole a chicken from the supermarket.
                  1. Finches
                    Finches 17 February 2021 13: 28
                    +1
                    The fact that a person is a thief can only be proved by a court! What did Putin personally steal from you? And I have something to compare with! You also have something to compare with - you just, like a blinkered horse, see only what you want to see ... It's a pity that this is only one negative!
                    1. Pereira
                      Pereira 17 February 2021 16: 19
                      0
                      I am amazed at your innocence.
                      Do you know other names besides Putin?
                      However, boundless, unclouded optimism is great. I even envy.
                      1. Finches
                        Finches 17 February 2021 16: 22
                        0
                        Why should I know other names if the GDP satisfies me as the head of state? Not why! There will be a day, there will be food, but for now all the rules!
                      2. Pereira
                        Pereira 17 February 2021 17: 49
                        -1
                        It remains only to shrug.
                        I wish you happiness, Eugene. Take care of yourself.
                      3. Finches
                        Finches 17 February 2021 17: 50
                        +2
                        Thank! And you hi
    3. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 17 February 2021 11: 12
      +7
      Quote: Finches
      Well, it smelled of sorosyat again!

      Another stupidity from your comment smelled. What was the wrong commentator saying?
      1. Finches
        Finches 17 February 2021 11: 15
        -15%
        If you are stupid, do not enter into a discussion! Be above that! laughing
      2. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 17 February 2021 12: 32
        +2
        When a PR-journalist is put on space, who has been an "effective manager" all his life, who did nothing himself, but only handed out instructions to assistants and promoted on loud promises, and not a military space specialist or a military man - a rocket engineer or any techie - this is yes - Collapse!
        1. Bratkov Oleg
          Bratkov Oleg 18 February 2021 00: 26
          +3
          While your rockets were in charge, the rockets fell one after another.
          And put Rogozin - the missiles stopped falling.
          Because you have a perverse sense of reality, you like it when rockets fall. And Rogozin is for making them fly.
          1. Bratkov Oleg
            Bratkov Oleg 18 February 2021 02: 08
            0
            I will add that the launch of the "Science" module was postponed until the summer.
            But, at the same time, he has not yet fallen.
          2. mojohed2012
            mojohed2012 18 February 2021 09: 33
            0
            How interesting. Where do I write that "I like that rockets fall"?
            And a special thank you for sorted out my perception of reality.
            I will add that it is surprising to me how you defend Rogozin. Are you not a colleague or a relative to him?
            I personally have nothing against Rogozin, but the facts cannot be hidden.
            Under Rogozin, rockets fell and continue to fall. Defects are constantly revealed. They look for the extreme and find them in simple assembly workers, and not in the manual, which is typical.
            That is why your objections are just a perverted reality to the point of idealism. Yes, I want to believe in good things, but Rogozin personally did not improve anything. He is just a governor in the industry, who does not understand anything himself, but only changes assistants and bosses in the field. An effective manager by definition - others will figure it out, and if necessary, they will explain to me what to strain myself. Better to be PR and make loud empty statements.
    4. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 18 February 2021 14: 16
      +2
      Quote: Finches
      Well, it smelled of sorosyat again! laughing

      I agree with you, colleague.
      It is full of sent Russophobes and local alarmists.
      By the way, here's an interesting fact: I recently learned that in Khokhlostan many military-patriotic sites like Zvezda are being blocked, but this one is not.
      Coincidence? I do not think.
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  3. Bear
    Bear 19 February 2021 20: 22
    0
    Good day. I would like to clarify, are you an employee of the state corporation "Roscosmos"? This is the first question. Second, I cannot confirm the truth of the data, but I received information from an employee of this corporation that Mr. Rogozin is engaged in "clearing the Augean stables" that he got from Koptev, Perminov, Popovkin, Ostapenko, Komarov. As before, in the Soviet Union, he was sent through the "Komsomol line" to raise the industry, which perished and lived only at the expense of Soviet reserves, because before that, he had proven himself excellently in previous posts, such as the plenipotentiary of the President of Russia to NATO. The process is long and painful, but progress is evident. It is unambiguous that, like any of the people, Rogozin has his weaknesses and makes unforgivable mistakes for public people. We are all imperfect. But as a result, "the dog barks, and the caravan moves on."
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 17 February 2021 11: 02
    +4
    the transition to manual mode was required due to the deviation of the ship from the berthing axis.

    Loads are not properly secured inside? Loose? A joke!
    Is the docking in manual mode smoother than in "automatic"? In general, of course, it's interesting how such a crucial operation is going on in orbit, in 3 projections, with large masses ?! Here at the medical board, some fingers will not match in the blind, and there such masses are joined!
    1. bar
      bar 17 February 2021 11: 10
      -1
      Quote: Starover_Z
      Loads are not properly secured inside? Loose? A joke!

      For the first time, orientation took place using GLONASS. Akella missed ... request
      1. Kart
        Kart 17 February 2021 11: 20
        -6
        Stop lying.
        With orientation, everything is fine. Written - the picture disappeared at 20 meters.
        1. bar
          bar 17 February 2021 11: 22
          -2
          Quote: Carte
          Stop lying.

          For what he bought, for what he gave. I don't compose the news myself.
          https://vz.ru/news/2021/2/17/1085465.html
          1. Kart
            Kart 17 February 2021 11: 25
            +4
            Well, read the link:
            This time up to a range of 30 meters for the first time to the station, the Progress MS-16 rendezvous was carried out using navigation data coming from the Glonass satellite system, a source told RIA Novosti.

            The problem arose at 20 meters when the KURS system was operating.
            What does GLONASS have to do with it?
            1. bar
              bar 17 February 2021 11: 29
              0
              Quote: Carte
              The problem arose at 20 meters when the KURS system was operating.

              Unfortunately, I have no information about 20 meters. No news about this came across, and I have no access to official information request
              But if, in addition to the "deviation of the docking axis," the "course" worked out over the years, it is even more regrettable. sad
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 17 February 2021 15: 16
                +4
                Quote: bar
                Unfortunately I have no information about 20 meters.
                I provide.
                Quote: Straight from the article
                20 meters from the station, a television "picture" suddenly disappeared
                1. bar
                  bar 17 February 2021 15: 38
                  -6
                  It doesn't really matter. The docking was planned in automatic mode, but there was a "deviation of the docking axis" and had to switch to manual mode. And the missing picture (as I understand it, already in manual mode?) Is already the icing on the cake ((
                  1. Simargl
                    Simargl 17 February 2021 15: 40
                    +2
                    Quote: bar
                    missing picture (as I understand it, already in manual mode?)
                    "... and I left the bathroom shaved and divorced ..."
                    Try to produce fewer entities.
                    1. bar
                      bar 17 February 2021 15: 58
                      -4
                      [/ quote] [quote = Simargl] Try to produce fewer entities.

                      That is, on the merits of the question, you also have nothing ... request
                    2. Simargl
                      Simargl 17 February 2021 16: 31
                      +4
                      Quote: bar
                      That is, on the merits of the question, you also have nothing ...
                      Yes, but I am not speculating more than the information received allows.
  • Bratkov Oleg
    Bratkov Oleg 18 February 2021 00: 27
    +2
    Year after year, Russia is working out and practicing automatic operations in space. Gain experience. It's good.
  • slipped
    slipped 17 February 2021 11: 56
    +3
    Quote: Finches
    "... due to the deviation of the ship from the berthing axis" - here is another informational reason for the 5th column to start yelling that Rogozin ruined everything, and Putin sold everything! laughing


    The ship flew several thousand kilometers and climbed over 400 km, after which it deviated centimeters from the axis of the docking station ... Roskosmos FSE! laughing
  • Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 17 February 2021 10: 52
    -4
    Rogozin is just some kind of Duncan MacLeod ... belay
  • bar
    bar 17 February 2021 10: 58
    -5
    Docking of Progress to the ISS was carried out in manual mode, although initially this process should have been automatic.

    Hopefully, the shame for which I was recently severely neglected will at least end there.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 17 February 2021 11: 12
      -1
      No warranties.
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 17 February 2021 11: 16
      -1
      Quote: bar
      Hopefully, the shame for which I was recently severely neglected will at least end there.

      I would not be so optimistic. In order to end the "shame", certain organizational staff events must be carried out, but they were not observed.
      1. bar
        bar 17 February 2021 11: 24
        -9
        Now Rogozin's fans will minus you laughing
        1. Kart
          Kart 17 February 2021 11: 28
          +3
          So far, only US fans are raging.
          As usual.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 17 February 2021 11: 51
            -1
            Quote: Carte
            So far, only US fans are raging.
            As usual.

            Well, at least not aliens.
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 17 February 2021 11: 41
          -1
          Quote: bar
          Now Rogozin's fans will minus you

          Again and again I am convinced, looking at them, our state has overdone its efforts to optimize medicine. In no case should the neuropsychiatric dispensaries and medical institutions be touched.
          1. Finches
            Finches 17 February 2021 12: 02
            -7
            That's for sure! It is a pity that for the dissidents, all stripes of all stripes were canceled "punitive" psychiatry ... Now they would not be squeamish and clever at VO, but obediently would go under the supervision of orderlies for the next injection procedure with life-giving haloperidol! laughing
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 17 February 2021 12: 16
              0
              Quote: Finches
              injection of life-giving haloperidol!

              This is what you just miss.
              Quote: Finches
              It is a pity that for the dissidents, the "punitive" psychiatry has been abolished ...

              And what was the punitive psychiatry for the bulk and the dissidents? Can you tell us more about this?
              1. Finches
                Finches 17 February 2021 12: 20
                -7
                I can, but I won't! I really hope that when it is restored, you will find out about it yourself! In practice, so to speak ... laughing
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 17 February 2021 12: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Finches
                  I can, but I won't!

                  Were you a dissident? Is it not convenient to tell?
                  1. Finches
                    Finches 17 February 2021 12: 26
                    -7
                    Don't be mischievous - you are a dissident, it's you, my dear - who constantly throw mud at the Motherland here ... Well, God bless him, you have such a job! There are no complaints here, everyone in our difficult time earns a piece of bread as best he can - I've served in the army for about 3 decades, earned a pension, but you like that .... It happens! hi
                    By the way, do not dwell on this thread, there is an article about the new large landing craft out - run there and write that shipbuilding in Russia also collapsed to the end thanks to Putin's efforts! laughing
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 17 February 2021 12: 44
                      +1
                      Quote: Finches
                      Don't be mischievous - you are a dissident, it's you, my dear - who constantly water the Motherland ...

                      Your like-minded people, the Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin and their comrades, have destroyed my homeland.
                      1. Finches
                        Finches 17 February 2021 13: 07
                        -4
                        Gorbachev-Yeltsin (I agree) Putin has nothing to do with it! I was also born in the USSR, and even more so I don't understand you - do you now want Russia to disintegrate, like the Soviet Union? What are you trying to achieve?
                      2. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 17 February 2021 13: 41
                        0
                        You can sleep peacefully! If in a state with nervous disorders of the population less than 5% of the total number of citizens, then this is a state with a healthy nation. Does the number 5 lead you to any parallels?
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 18 February 2021 14: 23
    0
    Quote: bar
    Hopefully, the shame for which I was recently severely neglected will at least end there.

    All in your hands.
    Do not disgrace yourself - and the shame will stop.
  • Sentinel-vs
    Sentinel-vs 17 February 2021 11: 03
    +5
    It's good that everything ended well.
    And who knows, Dragons are moored with the help of the station manipulator, their automation brings this manipulator to this manipulator, or does the astronaut take the remote control of the ship into his own hands?

    ps And the last bunch of delivered goods from the article is something for feminine hygiene?
    1. Blacksmith 55
      Blacksmith 55 17 February 2021 11: 13
      +7
      Humor is certainly good.
      I mean "feminine hygiene".
      But at the station somewhere there is an air leak.
      And, unfortunately, we have not yet found the reason, therefore, the patches, if someone drilled the "hole" again.
    2. Kart
      Kart 17 February 2021 11: 21
      -5
      Quote: Sentinel-vs
      And who knows, Dragons are moored with the help of the station manipulator, their automation brings this manipulator to this manipulator, or does the astronaut take the remote control of the ship into his own hands?

      He takes it into his own hands.
    3. bar
      bar 17 February 2021 12: 09
      -2
      Quote: Sentinel-vs
      It's good that everything ended well.

      It's not over yet. They still have to glue the hole.
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 17 February 2021 13: 15
        +6
        Yes. This is an interesting question.
        With a "handbrake" - okay, this is space. There are all sorts of situations, including abnormal ones.
        But the results of using a "set of reinforcing pads with an adhesive bond for sealing a crack in the Zvezda module are very interesting."
        No less curious, by the way, is the reason for the appearance of cracks, especially the second. Is it right or not a member of the North-Western Organization of the Russian Federation of Cosmonautics, who put forward a version that the defect could have been caused by dragging Fedya's robot through the Zvezda module? Due to the fact that the Kurs rendezvous system malfunctioned and the automatic docking of the Soyuz MS-14 with the robot to the Search module did not take place.
        1. bar
          bar 17 February 2021 13: 41
          -2
          Quote: Cosm22
          Is it right or not a member of the North-West Organization of the Russian Federation of Cosmonautics, who put forward a version that the defect could have been caused by dragging Fedya's robot through the Zvezda module?

          This is nonsense in my opinion. All internal surfaces of the station are covered with thermal insulation, Fedya would hardly have reached the wall through it. Although in itself the scam with this Fedya was enchanting.
          Most likely the problem is in the material itself, from which the "star" is made, and in the manufacturing technologies. Aluminum alloys are generally prone to fatigue cracking. And the star was also made in the midst of "perestroika" with its "conversion" and found the collapse of the USSR. This module was also planned for Mir-2. Nobody knows what the quality was like.
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 17 February 2021 15: 44
            +5
            Yes, I'm more of a joke ...
            Although Roskosmos categorically rejects the version of metal fatigue as the cause of cracking. So we, poor fellows, can only build guesses.
            1. bar
              bar 17 February 2021 16: 00
              -1
              What else is there for Roscosmos to do? When they started to make the "star" it was not there yet.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 17 February 2021 20: 37
                +2
                It's time to create a new orbital station, as our modules are increasingly breaking down and failing. And recently, "Scientists from the Pereslavl Research Institute of Space and Aviation Materials have created a new generation composite material capable of withstanding enormous loads. A 5-millimeter-wide strip with a dead weight of 2 grams is capable of holding a load weighing more than 500 kilograms. Neither steel nor aviation aluminum can cope with this. In addition, in contrast to the classic epoxy polymers actively used in civil aviation, the new material is fireproof, moisture resistant and does not deform during use.

                The material was named "aristar" from the Greek and Latin "best" and "star". According to the developers, it is designed for use in technologies of the future, requiring high strength in combination with low weight, refractory properties, and also resistance to radiation exposure. The invention has Russian and international patents and has been tested.

                “The technology on the basis of which we have developed this material has been known to scientists for about 20 years, but over all these years, they have been able to achieve success only in the United States; experiments have been carried out in Japan for 15 years. It took us seven years, but in terms of properties, our development is ahead of the American one, - said Vasily Aristov, Honorary Professor of the Academic Union of Oxford in the field of business, management and scientific research, General Director of NIIKAM LLC. - Such material has properties that should help people in further space exploration as an element of supporting structures and antennas. Also aristar can be used in civil aviation. It now actively uses epoxy polymers similar in external characteristics, but they do not have resistance when exposed to fire. It can be used in shipbuilding, fire-fighting technologies, and is promising for the nuclear industry. By using such material, we will save thousands of lives.

                In 2020, Pereslavl scientists have created aristide material suitable for use in aviation, space and other fields. It is 10 times lighter than aircraft grade aluminum and is capable of withstanding temperatures up to 1300 degrees, while remaining resistant to fire. In addition, it can withstand a pistol shot and gradually regenerate. According to scientists, aristide is a worthy replacement for aviation aluminum and epoxy polymers. In terms of its ability to retain heat, 3 millimeters of this material can be equal to a meter of brickwork, so its scope is wide enough. At present, the material is already used in the production of radio engineering products and as thermal insulation for satellite systems. ”In the future, the replacement is not complete of course with aluminum alloys in the space industry.
                1. bar
                  bar 17 February 2021 20: 42
                  0
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  A strip 5 millimeters wide with a dead weight of 2 grams is capable of holding a load weighing more than 500 kilograms.

                  It's great. But how will this material behave during prolonged stay in a vacuum, under the influence of constant temperature drops and solar radiation? And the same "star" has been flying for more than 20 years ... recourse
            2. bar
              bar 18 February 2021 12: 05
              0
              Quote: Cosm22
              Roskosmos categorically rejects the version of metal fatigue

              The modern creative leadership of Roskosmos and the laws of physics can easily be rejected.
          2. nov_tech.vrn
            nov_tech.vrn 18 February 2021 12: 01
            0
            In fact, the service life of the module was already extended there, as was the service life of the entire station, so it is necessary to repair it and think about replacing it.
    4. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 18 February 2021 14: 25
      +1
      Quote: Sentinel-vs
      And the last bunch of delivered goods from the article is something for feminine hygiene?

      Yeah. Like putty for crevices laughing
  • bar
    bar 17 February 2021 11: 08
    -7
    The rapprochement of the Progress MS-16 cargo vehicle with the International Space Station (ISS) on Wednesday was carried out for the first time using the Glonass navigation satellites, and not the Kurs radio engineering system, a source in the rocket and space industry said.

    Well, this is our Glonass ... recourse
    1. Kart
      Kart 17 February 2021 11: 22
      0
      Where did you get it from?
      Everything is fine in Russia, GLONASS is working normally.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 February 2021 11: 37
        +3
        GLONASS works normally .... I noticed glitches in navigation, but EVERYONE has glitches, nothing is perfect.
  • Kart
    Kart 17 February 2021 11: 27
    -3
    Why write about it at all?
    Normal situation provided. The docking is successful.
    If only to poke around so that later in the comments they would voice about Rogozinslil.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 17 February 2021 11: 34
    -2
    It is noted that the Progress cargo spacecraft dock with the ISS in automatic mode, but

    Okay, BUT, the reliability of automation must be brought to space standards!
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 February 2021 11: 45
      0
      technology fails, man is wrong.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 February 2021 12: 12
        -1
        Yes, no one gives a 100% guarantee ... then you have to do 200%, at least!
        1. iouris
          iouris 17 February 2021 14: 53
          0
          the guarantee is not expressed as a percentage. Chkalov flew to the USA on a single-engine plane. he was asked why not at least two. he replied (like YOU): "One motor - 100% risk. Two motors - 200% risk." there was no education in man. no education - don't speak up. be silent.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 17 February 2021 11: 43
    0
    But how did the Americans in Apollo docked on the way back, starting from the moon into an open field, so to speak?
  • slipped
    slipped 17 February 2021 11: 51
    +5
    The teleoperator mode is standard for Progress. Many factors can affect the automation at the moment of docking, and astronauts always control this process. In this case, 20 meters away, the Earth decided to switch to manual control and the station commander Ryzhikov clearly inserted the ship where it should be.

    1. hydroy
      hydroy 17 February 2021 12: 42
      +4
      Ryzhikov is great, he did a good job! Congratulations on your successful docking!
    2. Cosm22
      Cosm22 18 February 2021 00: 29
      +6
      It would be nice to voice these very factors that "can affect the automation at the moment of docking."
      For in this case there is nothing to rejoice at. As new details become clear. It was not an emergency situation, but a real emergency.
      The master of Russian cosmonautics, Mr. Rogozin, has already spoken out on this matter.
      According to him, information from the head cameras of the ship fairing is already being removed. Let us recall that a similar incident occurred during the automatic docking of the Progress MS-15 truck with the ISS on July 24, 2020. Then the truck also approached the ISS with a roll. Then the "ballet" began - commands for docking and undocking. They screwed up everything. The ISS crew, which first turned off the TORU and then turned it on. As a result, the truck several times decently kissed the front end of the docking station. There was also the fault of the Samara RCC "Progress", which did not work synchronously, giving rise to an inertial moment. The result is a blow.
      But the main thing is that the damaged screens of the Kurs's radio protection were clearly visible in the photo of the truck. But the head fairing damaged more than just them. He also bent the antennas of the rendezvous system located under them. Actually, because of this, there was a deviation in the course angle. The Incident Investigation Commission recognized the manufacturer's and crew's flaws and mistakes. Everything had to be fixed.
      But what do we see now? When approaching, the roll on the course already exceeds 30 degrees! Every conceivable limit! How can I understand? That the GOs are again incomplete? That there was a blow again? How else to explain the failure? Why did the roll stabilization antenna not bring the device to the line of sight? Was it damaged again? Did it happen again? What were the people of Samara doing then? And RK?
      1. slipped
        slipped 18 February 2021 01: 45
        0
        Quote: Cosm22
        It would be nice to voice these very factors that "can affect the automation at the moment of docking."


        They will sound when it becomes clear what caused the influence.

        Quote: Cosm22
        For in this case there is nothing to rejoice at. As new details become clear. It was not an emergency situation, but a real emergency.


        Switching over to manual control is a regular operation that duplicates automation. You don't think that the pilot controlling, say, the same unmanned aerial vehicle is superfluous in its automatic control loop? laughing

        Quote: Cosm22
        The master of Russian cosmonautics, Mr. Rogozin, has already spoken out on this matter.
        According to him, the information from the head cameras of the ship fairing is already being removed.


        That's why the cameras were installed on the ship. To establish how the standard head fairing can affect the Kurs-HA system antenna.

        Quote: Cosm22
        As a result, the truck has decently touched the docking port with its front end several times.


        The docking assembly is designed for repeated impacts on it. They did it that way. As a result, then the ship docked to the ISS and the locks were closed.

        Quote: Cosm22
        Everything had to be fixed.


        They will correct it if they find something.

        Quote: Cosm22
        Did it happen again?


        It is not yet known what was "repeated" there. Announced later. In any case, the spacecraft is part of the ISS.
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 18 February 2021 02: 30
          +6
          1. Ie Do you consider it your duty to remind us of the "many factors", but you are not going to clarify them? Interesting position.
          2. In this particular case, the transition from AC to RU is not a regular operation. And not even a freelance one, as it turns out. This is a real emergency. For a roll of more than 30 degrees along the course is difficult to explain with anything other than an emergency.
          3. Cameras are installed. But, apparently, no conclusions were drawn. The bugs have not been fixed. The emergency situation repeated itself, moreover, on a more threatening scale.
          4. Then the ship landed by a miracle. And regarding the reasoning about calculations for multiple collisions, it would be nice to give a listen to the Zvezda module. On the outside of the skin there is a dent from the impact exactly opposite the crack etching the air.
          5. We searched for almost a year. Found it? Judging by the situation repeated, no.
          1. slipped
            slipped 18 February 2021 03: 06
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            Quote: Cosm22
            1. Ie Do you consider it your duty to remind us of the "many factors", but you are not going to clarify them? Interesting position.


            There is nothing to clarify yet. The system gave a distorted signal. It is necessary to establish the reasons for this.

            Quote: Cosm22
            2. In this particular case, the transition from AC to RU is not a regular operation. And not even a freelance one, as it turns out. This is a real emergency. For a roll of more than 30 degrees along the course is difficult to explain with anything other than an emergency.


            Do not invent. laughing The position of the ship in space depends on the issuance of commands from its control system to the DPO engines. If the data is received in the SU incorrectly, then the commands are given incorrect. But the ship's computer was loaded with numerous checks and therefore the ship simply stopped executing the wrong CS commands and moved away from the station to a safe distance.

            Quote: Cosm22
            3. Cameras are installed. But, apparently, no conclusions were drawn. The bugs have not been fixed.


            Cameras were installed during this flight.

            Quote: Cosm22
            The emergency situation repeated itself, moreover, on a more threatening scale.


            Once again, I will repeat to you - there was no "emergency". The ship acted according to the logic laid down in it - it safely departed from the station.

            Quote: Cosm22
            Then the ship landed miraculously.


            The "miracle" then hurt a lot and itched. laughing Maybe it's enough to talk nonsense already?

            Quote: Cosm22
            And regarding the reasoning about calculations for multiple collisions, it would be nice to give a listen to the Zvezda module. On the outside of the skin there is a dent from the impact exactly opposite the crack etching the air.


            It's time for amazing and fantastic stories. laughing Progress MC-15, which had docking problems last time docked to Pirs, not to Zvezda, and recently quietly undocked from the station.

            Quote: Cosm22
            5. We searched for almost a year. Found it? Judging by the situation repeated, no.


            What have you been looking for for a year? lol
          2. slipped
            slipped 18 February 2021 03: 31
            +1
            The time lapse shows that the ship has stopped performing its maneuvers in front of the node.



            After the command from the Earth, the cosmonaut took the spacecraft away and manually performed the docking. All.
          3. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo 18 February 2021 14: 31
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            Quote: Cosm22
            This is the most real emergency

            An emergency is if the ship rammed the station. And before that - an emergency situation.
            Musk's tanks explode every other time - and nothing, keeps his face with a brick. And then some 30 degrees of roll.
            And most importantly, they judge by the results. And the result - the ship docked, the cargo is at the station, there is no damage.
          4. Intruder
            Intruder 18 February 2021 14: 34
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            In this particular case, the transition from AC to RU is not a regular operation. And not even a freelance one, as it turns out. This is a real emergency. For a roll of more than 30 degrees along the course is difficult to explain with anything other than an emergency.
            of course, 30 degrees is generally a northern fur animal, it's called a scribe! Most interestingly, the start has already been postponed:
            The launch of the cargo transport ship was originally planned for December 2020, but was postponed to 2021 due to the need for additional checks.
            it turns out the problems were still on the ground, then now they are already in orbit, it's just a hard-core file, some kind for this mission ...
  • sleeve
    sleeve 17 February 2021 12: 17
    +6
    Unrealistic! Takeover and docking and all in 6 minutes. To the guys in orbit, respect!
  • Lycan
    Lycan 17 February 2021 13: 40
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    Turn on the brain. Received:
    Docking of Progress to the ISS was carried out in manual mode, although initially this process should have been automatic.

    however, 20 meters from the station, a television "picture" suddenly disappeared

    Does the "picture" with half-smeared contours somehow affect the operation of the automatic docking process? Or are there more accurate positioning systems?
    And where are the redundant onboard systems?
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 February 2021 14: 55
      +1
      the system was developed forty years ago. manual control is carried out by a joystick. This is the German technology of the middle of WWII
      1. Lycan
        Lycan 18 February 2021 15: 01
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        Understood and found, thank you. But this does not change matters - is it fashionable to rely on the automation of today's spacecraft, chtol, without duplication? It's good that what happened, what happened - although there was no accident, someone will be forced to "carefully" think about their work. Children's mistakes pop up as soon as you forget about them.
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 18 February 2021 14: 21
      -1
      Or are there more accurate positioning systems?
      And where are the redundant onboard systems?
      there is, of course, dubbing, and Chinese components, even the camera fell off, the astronaut would not be able to do it manually (some notorious human factor ...) and the cargo mission would be disrupted, or the unfortunate would be stuck "Progress"!?
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 17 February 2021 14: 44
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    Cosmonaut Ryzhikov, who performed the docking in manual mode, will receive a bonus! This clause is spelled out in the contract. laughing
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 February 2021 16: 04
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      will not receive. this is his function as an astronaut.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 17 February 2021 16: 21
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        In the news, this infa. In the astronaut's contract for the flight, this clause is present. Manual docking is paid separately. As well as spacewalks, they can be said in space piecework.
    2. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 18 February 2021 14: 32
      +2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Cosmonaut Ryzhikov, who performed the docking in manual mode, will receive a bonus! This clause is spelled out in the contract. laughing

      Was it not because of the prize that everything was started?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 18 February 2021 14: 49
        +1
        We need to figure it out! drinks
  • Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 17 February 2021 16: 35
    +2
    Flying into space is always like a challenge to the Universe.
    It's good that ended well.
    Per aspera ad astra
    1. Ua3qhp
      Ua3qhp 17 February 2021 18: 37
      0
      It looks like an experiment, but poorly on glonass to drive into the garage, it did not work, well, okay, then we'll try again. Why only?
    2. slipped
      slipped 17 February 2021 18: 38
      +2
      Quote: Sands Career General
      Per aspera ad astra


      Just think .... A slight movement of the throttle fingers at the command of the cosmonaut, in the last seconds of docking, leads to an explosion of perdakov all over Svidomo Internet !!! lol

      "Oh how much triangular affairs disturb you !!!!" © not mine. laughing
  • Split
    Split 17 February 2021 21: 30
    +4
    And at the mask, the ship even in automatic mode, like a drunkard, a bottle after a liter sat down, a bottle was broken, but the landing was successful! After all, there is still a drawer in my pocket lol The Apallons flew like that, issued a series of more than 10 successful non-emergency flights, and a poor mask with 21st century technology suffers. And everything is simple with us and the manual mode and the capsules are fired back, and they buried 2 shuttles without the crew of Grissom and almost a dozen astronauts of the lunar race in auto and air disasters
  • Bratkov Oleg
    Bratkov Oleg 18 February 2021 00: 39
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    Quote: bar
    ... This module was also planned for Mir-2 ...

    It has nothing to do with Mir-2, except that it is also intended for space. The Mir-2 station, aka Polyus, aka Skif-DM, was launched by the first launch of the Energia rocket, Buran was the second launch, and was flooded by order of Gorbachev, because the US is the most peaceful country in light, and we launch a combat laser into orbit ...
    https://www.sovrus.com/uploads/posts/2020-08/1596541915_1.jpg
    1. slipped
      slipped 18 February 2021 02: 02
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      Quote: Bratkov Oleg
      Quote: bar
      ... This module was also planned for Mir-2 ...

      It has nothing to do with Mir-2, except that it is also intended for space. The Mir-2 station, aka Polyus, aka Skif-DM, was launched by the first launch of the Energia rocket, Buran was the second launch, and was flooded by order of Gorbachev, because the US is the most peaceful country in light, and we launch a combat laser into orbit ...
      https://www.sovrus.com/uploads/posts/2020-08/1596541915_1.jpg


      You are wrong. The inscription "Mir-2" on the dynamic layout of the "Skif" was put on board from above for conspiracy purposes - to confuse American spy satellites. The name "Polyus" was invented for scoring in the media and applied to the side of the model. This model had nothing to do directly with the Mir-2 station. What was then called by this name was a preliminary design of NPO Energia, which was not implemented due to the stoppage of the Energia-Buran program. Subsequently, the project would be transformed into the DOS-7 (Mir-2) station, the money for the implementation of which simply was not available. The base unit of this station was the backup of the base unit of the station DOS-6 (Mir) Only after the Gore-Chernomyrdin commission made a decision to combine the DOS-7 and Frid projects, the money was found and the ISS was eventually built, and the DOS-7 BB in this design was converted into the Zvezda SM.
  • EXP
    EXP 18 February 2021 11: 56
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    Our hackers turn off their space objects (recent accidents in the USA), and theirs hackers prevent us from docking. War in space, brother!
  • Intruder
    Intruder 18 February 2021 14: 16
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    however, 20 meters from the station, a television "picture" suddenly disappeared, after which the Russian crew received a command from the ground to dock manually.
    can be seen in Roscosmos, few people are left thinking ..., at 20 meters, an inexpensive lidar can provide sufficient accuracy in measuring angular and velocity parameters, even put three ... (3-fold reservation) and not quite - this is a complex technique and calculations, to fit into the docking system ....
  • rjpthju
    rjpthju 19 February 2021 08: 54
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    Thank God, it worked out after all. Otherwise the cosmonauts would have died of hunger. Amerikosov probably ate well. Shame ... Around the lining. Either the products ran out, then the launch was postponed, followed by a failure during docking. The main trampoline is not thinking of leaving the post? Or does he think that there is no better manager than him? A man without conscience, like all our power, is attached to the wealth of Russia. If only one official who ruined the case resigned. People have no honor !!!