Former Soviet dissident: USSR "doublethink" is frighteningly embodied in the modern West

The system of "doublethink" survived both Stalin and his Gulag. Former Soviet dissidents now see her in Western countries, and this scares them.

This is one of the themes that Natan Sharansky raised in his book "I was never alone - not in prison, not in politics, not with the people", which he wrote together with Gil Troy.

The former Soviet dissident believes that Soviet citizens who sought to make a career and become successful were forced to live in an atmosphere of constant and universal lies. They talked, did and wrote everything as it should be. At the same time, they realized that they were lying, and expressed their true views in the kitchens among family members, as well as among the closest and most reliable friends.

According to Sharansky, the "doublethink" of the USSR is frighteningly embodied in the modern West, and there this phenomenon is called "political correctness." The author of the book believes that Western democracy no longer exists, it has long been destroyed, and it was replaced by "political correctness". She tries to control people, does not allow them to sincerely express their views. Like the old Soviet system, modern Western political correctness imposes the “right” views on the population. And if earlier the United States was considered the bulwark of world democracy, today it has become a hotbed of a new "doublethink".

In the USSR, government bodies tried to control people's thoughts, and today in the USA they have been successfully replaced by social networks. Today in the West fanatics from among public activists force their fellow citizens to be politically correct and tolerant, and those who do not fit into the framework are harassed on social networks.

Sharansky believes that today the citizens of the United States and European countries are faced with the same choice that faced him in the USSR: to remain himself or "submit to the humiliating dictates of doublethink."

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[Victor_B]

Poor, poor Jews!

Sharansky believes that today the citizens of the United States and European countries are faced with the same choice that faced him in the USSR: to remain himself or "submit to the humiliating dictates of doublethink."

Now let them bring them from the states and Europe to their Israel! (The main thing is not to return to Russia)
They have something there in Israel with the rights of Jews, everything is a bunch.
Unlike the rights of Arabs and Palestinians (I do not distinguish between these varieties, but they say that these are two big differences)

[Dym71]

Quote: Victor_B

(The main thing is not to return to Russia)

And what about the Jewish Autonomous Region in Russia? It smacks of anti-Semitism!

[Victor_B]

Quote: Dym71

And what about the Jewish Autonomous Region in Russia? It smacks of anti-Semitism!

As I understand it, this was the first territory of Russia that cleared itself of Jews.

[Siberian54]

Jews do not take root in Siberia and the Far East.

[VORON538]

One name remained from the Jews in the Jewish Autonomous Region
They are almost not there, most of the population is Russian

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Victor_B

Poor, poor Jews!

Sharansky believes that today the citizens of the United States and European countries are faced with the same choice that faced him in the USSR: to remain himself or "submit to the humiliating dictates of doublethink."

Now let them bring them from the states and Europe to their Israel! (The main thing is not to return to Russia)
They have something there in Israel with the rights of Jews, everything is a bunch.
Unlike the rights of Arabs and Palestinians (I do not distinguish between these varieties, but they say that these are two big differences)

The main thing is not to come to you in Canada!
Socialist she is not rubber

[Victor_B]

Quote: Krasnodar

The main thing is not to come to you in Canada!

Yes, here you are ... well, in general, a lot! (I said obscenely)

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Krasnodar

The main thing is not to come to you in Canada!

Yes, here you are ... well, in general, a lot! (I said obscenely)

This is yes. I wish you that all the Jews left Canada, and instead of them came Arabs, Sudanese and Eritreans.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

instead, Arabs, Sudanese and Eritreans arrived.

Yes, there are more of them here than you.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Aron Zaavi

instead, Arabs, Sudanese and Eritreans arrived.

Yes, there are more of them here than you.

Well, let their brothers replace the Jews. I am for it.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Well, let their brothers replace the Jews.

Do not worry about the Canadian people.
Canadian Jews need Israel like a hare.
They live here!

[borberd]

Quote: Victor_B

Canadian Jews need Israel like a hare.

So how do you like Russia?
How do you know what Canadian Jews need? My friends in Canada are very interested in Israel and read Israeli news.

[Kaman]

But what about a Russian patriot like Victor B living in Canada, and not in his native Russia?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Krasnodar

The main thing is not to come to you in Canada!

Yes, here you are ... well, in general, a lot! (I said obscenely)

Are there very few of you?

[Victor_B]

Quote: Krasnodar

Are there very few of you?

There are plenty of Ukrainians.
Russians, most likely much less than Jews, in any case they are not noticeable.

[Krasnodar]

It depends on where you live. Russians quickly assimilate (including in Israel), work as IT-workers, engineers, doctors.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Krasnodar

It depends on where you live.

In Toronto, the so-called Russian district, on Saturday you cannot distinguish from the streets of Jerusalem. A continuous stream of synagogues! In special fit clothes.

[Krasnodar]

I have not been, I do not know
A friend of mine who lives in the States opened a branch of his company in Toronto (IT), says that 80% of employees are Russians

[Victor_B]

Quote: Krasnodar

80% of employees are Russians

Not Russians, but RUSSIAN SPEAKERS!
Actually, I have nothing against the Jews.
On Victory Day in Toronto, the celebrations are concrete, with demonstrations and street closures. The atmosphere is really festive.

[Krasnodar]

Not at all - guys from Moscow, Belgorod, Volgograd, Alma-Ata. I also asked again - maybe Ukrainians

[Victor_B]

Duc Jews, they also came in large numbers from all over the country.
If not religious, but there are many of them, and the surname is not typical, then you won’t guess.
Here, in general, everyone knows each other by their first names, often they have not heard the last name. It is generally not customary to talk about nationality.

[Krasnodar]

For what I bought, for what I sell. But since we are Jews, and he knows the names of his workers for sure, then we are talking about Russians I thought he traditionally, as he loves, typed Indians, but here it is like

[Victor_B]

Quote: Krasnodar

then we are talking about Russians

As soon as he sorted them out of the Jews? ..
By last name?
It is not always possible to understand exactly.
Although, if he is a Jew himself, then when hiring him, an employee would definitely emphasize that he, too, is yes!
But all the same, it was precisely the Russians that he did not specifically look for.

[Krasnodar]

It is clear that I was not looking for Russians
But the head of his branch / daughter is a Russian Muscovite, I know that for sure. I did the set myself, otherwise it does not

[Victor_B]

Quote: Krasnodar

But he did the set himself, he does not do it otherwise

Well, at least, there are definitely no fools who write "Indian code" among them.

[Krasnodar]

It is clear that no

[Trapp1st]

Now let them bring them from the states and Europe to their Israel! (The main thing is not to return to Russia)

Do they interfere with something specific in Russia, and only they?

Sharansky believes that today the citizens of the United States and European countries are faced with the same choice that faced him in the USSR: to remain himself or "submit to the humiliating dictates of doublethink."

It was 4 dozen years of wandering around desert to the world.

[aars]

Quote: Trapp1st

Do they interfere with something specific in Russia, and only they?

Honestly, I have no idea how they interfere, I have not seen a single living one.
But the word "Jew" is considered a curse.

[Trapp1st]

I have not seen a single living one.

Where do you live, in the cemetery ???

[aars]

Where oil and gas are produced.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Trapp1st

I have not seen a single living one.

Where do you live, in the cemetery ???

Are there no Jews in the cemetery?

[Trapp1st]

Are there no Jews in the cemetery?

The interlocutor clarified that he did not see a single living person, from which it can be concluded that he did not see completely alive ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Trapp1st

The interlocutor clarified that he did not see a single living person, from which it can be concluded that he did not see completely alive ...

They say that there are also living ones.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Victor_B

Poor, poor Jews!

Sharansky believes that today the citizens of the United States and European countries are faced with the same choice that faced him in the USSR: to remain himself or "submit to the humiliating dictates of doublethink."

Now let them bring them from the states and Europe to their Israel! (The main thing is not to return to Russia)
They have something there in Israel with the rights of Jews, everything is a bunch.
Unlike the rights of Arabs and Palestinians (I do not distinguish between these varieties, but they say that these are two big differences)

Sharansky already lives in Israel.

[Finches]

This divinely elected dissident, an ordinary offended - when he was not allowed to emigrate to Israel in 1973, he was terribly offended by the Soviet regime and immediately turned into a person with an "active" life position! What did he want, the red carpet to the plane? The Soviet government made a poor Jewish boy from the city of Stalino an engineer-mathematics, having learned for free in one of the most prestigious universities in the country, and he decided to give the debt not to the USSR, but to the promised country, which at that time was among our enemies ... tortured to tell a lie when he was a member of the Komsomol committee of the MIPT faculty, which just uncontrollably vomited him to his historical homeland!

[Finches]

However, I will correct myself, most likely Natanchik thought in time that it was possible to make a good gesheft in an "active" position in life and did it!

[Baloo]

Quote: Finches

However, I will correct myself, most likely Natanchik thought in time that it was possible to make a good gesheft in an "active" position in life and did it!

For a long time they did not want to let him go and change him to our illegal immigrants, because Sharansky was in close contact with an undercover foreign agent. But the very reaction to the "doublethink of the West" is amusing. The magic uncle woke up, and when was it different in the west?

[Finches]

Looks like gesheft

[avib]

Sharansky spent about half of his nine-year term in solitary confinement and more than 400 days in a punishment cell on a reduced diet at low temperatures without the necessary clothing). Sharansky repeatedly declared hunger strikes of protest, was force-fed.

Oh, nafig such gesheft. Zyablitsev, do not judge people by themselves.

[Finches]

Will you be among the fighters against the "totalitarian" regime?

He was well paid for this "suffering": the holder of two highest American awards - the Gold Medal of the US Congress and the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the laureate of the Israel Prize, and of course they poured a bit of shekels, but Cleo is shyly silent about their number ...

[avib]

I - no, but he apparently did.

Now you need to deal with a totalitarian regime.
Thank God, I have been willing to fight only with religious obscurantism for 30 years already, thank God, and, in principle, that's it ...
Although I agree with Sharansky - hypertrophied tolerance, reverse discrimination and dark-skinned artists playing the roles of the Queen of England or the Knights of the Round Table - all these manifestations are deeply unsympathetic to me. I do not agree with this within the permitted democratic framework. Time will put everything in its place. Maybe when we still laugh at how they tried to replace the father and mother with the first parent and the second parent in the forms ... Or maybe we won't.

[Finches]

I have something to do in retirement, except how to fight the "totalitarian" regime - I am of the wrong nationality, there is no heightened sense of justice in me!
And the problems of the United States and the West, this is their degeneration - that's where they go!

[Trapp1st]

and he decided to give the debt not to the USSR, but to the promised country

There are hundreds of thousands of such in Israel, maybe this is a sign of their good form. Some, by the way, are on TV around the clock.

[Finches]

Don't give a damn about Israel! I'm talking about the motives of the Land of the Soviets at that time!

[Trapp1st]

Don't give a damn about Israel!

Well, I'm not talking about Israel either

[Siberian54]

1973-the first difficulties of Israel in the manufacture of YAZU (the Americans were on their guard and blocked the channels of information), at the same time, quite by accident! Sakharov's wife began to saw him off to the Promised Lands

[Finches]

Bonner, this is a 100% Mossad-State Department spy, knocked the academician off his pantaly, and he, like all geniuses, was out of this world ... By the way, Natanchik then joined Sakharov as an assistant and translator!

[Baloo]

Quote: Siberian54

1973-the first difficulties of Israel in the manufacture of YAZU (the Americans were on their guard and blocked the channels of information), at the same time, quite by accident! Sakharov's wife began to saw him off to the Promised Lands

I remember publications in literature of that period. They wrote that this second spouse not only sawed, but also p ... la the academician. The creator of the hydrogen bomb? But the project manager was Kapitsa senior. He could have stayed with Rutherford in the states, but he returned, and was not afraid to intercede with Stalin for scientists.

[Finches]

Nevertheless, he participated in the design and development of the first Soviet hydrogen bomb according to the scheme, the so-called "Sakharov's puff". Theoretical physicist! And they think in other categories, but how the man turned out to be rather weak!

[Victor_B]

Quote: Finches

This god's chosen dissident

Not all Jews are dissidents, but almost all dissidents are Jews!

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Finches

This god's chosen dissident

Not all Jews are dissidents, but almost all dissidents are Jews!

I apologize wildly, but denouncing the bad West, advocating for the interests of Russia, living in Canada is also dissidence.

[borberd]

He is not dripping there, on the Canadian grubs. From there it is more convenient to love the Motherland and denounce Soviet dissidents.

[Krasnodar]

But you can drink, have a bite and cry from nostalgia, looking at the Canadian birches
I, too, looking at the palm trees in Sochi, could raise a toast to Ling Live Israel, Frog Palestine

[Professor]

Quote: Finches

This divinely elected dissident, an ordinary offended - when he was not allowed to emigrate to Israel in 1973, he was terribly offended by the Soviet regime and immediately turned into a person with an "active" life position! What did he want, the red carpet to the plane?

Not. Just let go, and NOT keep in chains in the socialist camp.

Quote: Finches

The Soviet government made a poor Jewish boy from the city of Stalino an engineer-mathematics, having learned for free in one of the most prestigious universities in the country, and he decided to give the debt not to the USSR, but to the promised country, which at that time was our enemy ...

Never for free. His grandfathers and his parents were malnourished and lacked sleep plowing into the Soviet regime, thereby earning him to pay for the university. I repeat once again: the bourgeoisie not only taught me for free, but also paid a scholarship. And my interesting thing is that not only was it not forced to work it out "according to distribution", but it was never even reproached for it. And this is despite the fact that neither I nor my ancestors contributed a drop to their economy.

Quote: Finches

Apparently, he was severely tortured to speak a lie when he was a member of the Komsomol committee of the MIPT faculty, which just uncontrollably vomited him to his historical homeland!

The trick is that in order to get to his homeland, he did not bend, but served 11 years in a strict regime colony. More than 400 days alone. And you, dear, how much do you love your homeland?

Quote: Finches

However, I will correct myself, most likely Natanchik thought in time that it was possible to make a good gesheft in an "active" position in life and did it!

I suggest you repeat his career. 13 in a strict regime colony and your gesheft. Is the intestine thin?

[Finches]

God's Chosen Advocate always has to happen! The guts are not thin - I am not trained to sell only the Motherland! And so I do not renounce the amount and prison!

[Professor]

Quote: Finches

God's Chosen Advocate always has to happen! The guts are not thin - I am not trained to sell only the Motherland! And so I do not renounce the amount and prison!

Did you really remain loyal to the USSR oath and stood up to its defense in 1991, or did you sell your Motherland? What are the names of those who break the oath?

[Finches]

I, professor, did not have time to take the oath of the USSR, but you will be surprised even more - I did not give the oath to Russia!

[Professor]

Quote: Finches

I, professor, did not have time to take the oath of the USSR, but you will be surprised even more - I did not give the oath to Russia!

I'm not surprised at all. Not who did not swear allegiance, did not serve, did not fight and in general did not sacrifice anything more than anyone SCREAMS about love for the Motherland. Classic.

[Finches]

You don’t know how things really are, but you are mischievous, because there is essentially nothing to say to you ... But that’s the point - here in Russia I gave service to the Motherland for almost 30 years, and Sharansky was a defector and a traitor! Fact? Fact!

[Professor]

Quote: Finches

You don’t know how things really are, but you are misleading, because there is essentially nothing to say to you ...

In fact, I wrote above, but you only found an answer about the "lawyer".

Quote: Finches

Just what's the point - here in Russia I gave service to the Motherland for almost 30 years, and Sharansky was a defector and a traitor! Fact? Fact!

30 years without an oath? I believe.
Not a fact, but slander from your lips.

[Finches]

Why without an oath - with an oath! I am, after all, a career officer! For me, Sharansky was and remains a traitor and the whole tale! Personally, you can idolize him as much as you like, besides you are co-religionists with him - so it's natural!

[Professor]

Quote: Finches

Why without an oath - with an oath! I am, after all, a career officer!

Quote: Finches

I, professor, did not have time to take the oath of the USSR, but you will be surprised even more - I did not give the oath to Russia!

You are confused in the testimony. So you, as a "career officer", have violated your oath to the Motherland? Shchiransky did not break any oath. Who is the traitor?

Quote: Finches

For me, Sharansky was and remains a traitor and the whole tale! Personally, you can idolize him as much as you like, besides you are co-religionists with him - so this is natural!

The most interesting thing is that Shchiransky does not even suspect about your existence and your attitude towards him. He (unlike you) went down in history forever.

By the way, I "idolize" Bukovsky more even though he is your co-religionist.

[Finches]

You simply do not know our history - there was a very short period when the USSR was no longer sworn in, and there was no oath to Russia yet - I swore the CIS!

[Professor]

Quote: Finches

You simply do not know our history - there was a very short period when the USSR was no longer sworn in, and there was no oath to Russia yet - I swore the CIS!

That is, "here in Russia I gave service to the Motherland for almost 30 years" is not true. You have served the CIS.

[Finches]

It turns out But in the Russian Armed Forces and now I am in reserve in them! And I receive my pension from the Russian Ministry of Defense! So it's okay!

[Professor]

Quote: Finches

It turns out But in the Russian Armed Forces and now I am in reserve in them! And I receive my pension from the Russian Ministry of Defense! So it's okay!

Your integrity is just a standard. Not like some Shchiransky.

[Finches]

And where do you see the lack of adherence to principles? All the relevant legal acts on succession were adopted - so everything is fine - I was born in the USSR and began serving in the CIS, which then became the army of Russia - which confuses you! This is such a difficult historical period for our country, but I have not ceased to be a Russian, and I have not watered my homeland, and I am not going to do this, unlike Natanchik!

[Finches]

It was even more correct to write this - he began serving in the Soviet Army, which for some reason during this period was called the CIS Army, but then renamed into the Russian Army, when the collapse became more or less settled!

[Professor]

Quote: Finches

And where do you see the lack of adherence to principles? All the relevant legal acts on succession were adopted - so everything is fine - I was born in the USSR and began serving in the CIS, which then became the army of Russia - which confuses you!

Confuses nothing. They served for money in the army which they did not swear.

Quote: Finches

This is such a difficult historical period for our country, but I have not ceased to be a Russian, and I have not watered my homeland, and I am not going to do this, unlike Natanchik!

Well, I'm talking about it. "such a difficult historical period for your country happened"and you served those who paid without an oath of loyalty.

Shchiransky did not want to live with you. What is incomprehensible here? Would let him go to all 4 sides and the trick is in the bag. But no. So everyone will run away from you? To scare Shchiransky with the death penalty, and then to a colony. Bella Dijour was up to 84 years old. They mocked the elderly man, but did not want to let him go to their son. Then you wonder why, when the borders were opened, millions left you, leaving you everything that they have created for generations.
Has it become easier to breathe?

Quote: Finches

It was even more correct to write this - he began serving in the Soviet Army, which for some reason during this period was called the CIS Army, but then renamed into the Russian Army, when the collapse became more or less settled!

In the Soviet army they served without oath and in the Russian. Did you get paid regularly?

[Finches]

You are now doing ordinary casuistry! You can practice your fine writing, I'm not sorry! I am still regularly paid my pension, but the fact remains that Sharansky is a traitor, but I am not! That's the whole story!

[Professor]

Quote: Finches

You are now doing ordinary casuistry! You can practice your fine writing, I'm not sorry! I am still regularly paid my pension, but the fact remains that Sharansky is a traitor, but I am not! That's the whole story!

Shchiransky (who in the photo with your Supreme Commander-in-Chief) did not betray his oath, he did not betray military secrets to another country.
You violated the military oath. But .. Nathan served in prison for his principles, and you are regularly paid by the country which you did not swear.

So who did the gesheft here?

PS
In such cases, I remember Admiral Berezovsky. He swore allegiance to Ukraine. He swore allegiance to the "people of Crimea", swore allegiance to the Russian Federation. It's just that he has a big oath and "such a difficult historical period for your country happened"He himself is not to blame.

Long years to Shchiransky. Interesting person. Well, you don't have to be ill.

[Finches]

You jerked, jerked and you will jerk! You have such a hobby - to pull an owl on the globe! But, on the other hand, it is not boring in VO - if you say "white", then a "professor" appears and convincingly proves that white is actually black and vice versa! And good luck in promoting double standards! This has been going on with you since the time of Jesus ...

[AUL]

I, professor, did not have time to take the oath of the USSR, but you will be surprised even more - I did not give the oath to Russia either

Quote: Finches

I spent almost 30 years here in Russia in the service of the Motherland,

And all without an oath? or just forпиstarred?

[borberd]

Quote: Finches

The Soviet government made a poor Jewish boy from the city of Stalino an engineer-mathematics by learning for free in one of the most prestigious universities in the country

For free and now you can study at the most prestigious universities in the United States and Europe, and even (oh horror) not a citizen. The main thing is that there are talents and brains. And the most interesting thing, after training, you can easily go where your soul calls and no one will send you to the camps for this.

[Gardamir]

(I do not distinguish between these varieties

by the way, both Arabs and Jews belong to the Semites.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Gardamir

by the way, both Arabs and Jews belong to the Semites.

Only now, unlike Russians and Ukrainians / Belarusians, neither Jews nor Arabs recognize each other as a brotherly people.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Victor_B

Arabs and Jews belong to the Semites.

-Abram, I heard you play in a negro orchestra? And how many blacks are there?
Me and Tsipirovich! And the rest are entirely Jews!

[Gardamir]

unlike Russians and Ukrainians / Belarusians

The Kremlin's modern state ideology will embroil us all.

[Professor]

Quote: Victor_B

Let them now bring them from the states and Europe to their Israel!

Amen.

Quote: Victor_B

The main thing is not to go back to Russia

There is no such danger.

Quote: Victor_B

They have something there in Israel with the rights of Jews, everything is a bunch.

Yes.

Quote: Victor_B

Unlike the rights of Arabs and Palestinians (I do not distinguish between these varieties, but they say that these are two big differences)

Hmm. Are Fylystyntsi not Arabs? Live and learn.

PS
Sharansky is a respected person. They kept him in solitary confinement for months, but could not break him. However, for me, Vladimir Bukovsky is more of a beacon.

[NDR-791]

According to Sharansky, the "doublethink" of the USSR is frighteningly embodied in the modern West, and there this phenomenon is called "political correctness."
But now there will be something to fight for! A dissident is a diagnosis - for everything good versus everything bad.

[Victor_B]

Quote: NDR-791

A dissident is a diagnosis

Bad disease!

[NDR-791]

Bad disease!
You know, Sakharov alone managed to do something for the State before he got sick. Judging by the rest of ALL, the disease has eaten up the brain! So the sore is not safe, more like a split personality - where you eat, there you shit.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: NDR-791

A dissident is a diagnosis - for everything good versus everything bad.

He fought for everything good in the West, against everything bad in the USSR, but it turned out that everything bad in the West is the same as in the USSR, but he did not find anything good anywhere.

[NDR-791]

but he didn't find anything good anywhere.
And they don't need that. Meaning is nothing, struggle is everything !!!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: NDR-791

And they don't need that. Meaning is nothing, struggle is everything !!!

Self-PR is everything.

[aszzz888]

tihonmarine (Vlad)
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Quote: NDR-791
A dissident is a diagnosis - for everything good versus everything bad.

He fought for everything good in the West, against everything bad in the USSR, but it turned out that everything bad in the West is the same as in the USSR, but he did not find anything good anywhere.

God marks the assault!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: NDR-791

But now there will be something to fight for! A dissident is a diagnosis - for everything good versus everything bad.

Yes of course. You Can't Wait Sharansky was a minister in three Israeli governments. He is now retired.

[NDR-791]

Do not wait
Typically, they took it straight from that joke !!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

You Can't Wait Sharansky was a minister in three Israeli governments. He is now retired.

He found himself, the struggle was not in vain. But why was it necessary to fight with windmills, I would go to Israel and live in peace. But the main thing is that he found himself, and in retirement understood the meaning of life.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Aron Zaavi

You Can't Wait Sharansky was a minister in three Israeli governments. He is now retired.

He found himself, the struggle was not in vain. But why was it necessary to fight with windmills, I would go to Israel and live in peace. But the main thing is that he found himself, and in retirement understood the meaning of life.

So he never asked for 11 years in prison. He asked to be allowed to leave. He was not the bearer of secrets. I was not a serf or a slave either. Why did you have to keep it?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Why did you have to keep it?

I would have kept my mouth shut, and still not immediately, but they would have released them, like others. My friends didn't leave the first time either. There was no need to pull the tail of the state, it is tantamount to pulling a cobra by the tail. He still fought, with difficulty, but he left, and I am glad that he left for the country of his fellow tribesmen. And there he found himself and showed himself. I am for it.

[Pavel73]

In this case, he is right. A dissident is a dissident, but better late than never. It is very good that he understands that the West is also people. In both good and bad sense of the word.

[Destiny]

The former Soviet dissident believes that Soviet citizens who sought to make a career and become successful were forced to live in an atmosphere of constant and universal lies. They talked, did and wrote everything as it should be. At the same time, they realized that they were lying, and expressed their true views in the kitchens among family members, as well as among the closest and most reliable friends.

Such as Sharansky may have lived like this, but a normal simple hard worker lived quietly for himself, worked, and did not hiss in kitchens at the Soviet regime like all these dissidents.

[NDR-791]

In the USSR, the thoughts of people tried to control state bodies
Don't give in!
I heard - be quiet,
said - don't write,
wrote - don't sign
signed - refuse.
And you will be happy

[Blacksmith 55]

The United States is the mainstay of world democracy ???
I would never want to live with their "crap".
Let them live like that if they want.
The only problem is that they want to establish it all over the world.

[tihonmarine]

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The United States is the mainstay of world democracy ???

Their "democracy" began with the first president, who had about 300 black slaves.

[Dmitry Makarov]

It is another matter that in Russia this Sharansky is not needed by anyone either, this can be stated without any doublethink, directly.

[Krasnodar]

And in Israel it has long been forgotten. Therefore, I wrote a book

[Prisoner]

I am trying to remember at least one state and at least one system in which there would be no "doublethink". Does not work.

[Gardamir]

at least one state and at least one system in which there would be no "doublethink".

[NDR-791]

at least one state and at least one system in which there would be no "doublethink"
Exactly !!! Let's take Old Man, he turned again in a multi-vector way yesterday: “Belarus is interested in further deepening contacts with Lithuania, said President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko in his congratulations to the Lithuanian people on February 16. He revealed how he intends to cooperate with Vilnius.”
It was he who congratulated them yesterday on the anniversary of independence from the USSR. And it seems like he was recently going to close the border, and pull up the troops Direct internal dissident, panimash.

[orionvitt]

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at least one state and at least one system in which there would be no "doublethink".

Doublethink doublethink strife. There is a slight understatement, and there is an outright lie. But in principle, everything is correct. As the saying goes, "you can't cheat, you can't sell." Especially in the context of Western "democracy".

[cniza]

The author of the book believes that Western democracy no longer exists, it has long been destroyed, and it was replaced by "political correctness". She tries to control people, does not allow them to sincerely express their views. Like the old Soviet system, modern Western political correctness imposes the “right” views on the population. And if earlier the United States was considered the bulwark of world democracy, today it has become a hotbed of a new "doublethink".

And they never admit it, not because they do not want to, but because they do not yet understand ...

[aszzz888]

Former Soviet dissidents now see her in Western countries, and this scares them.

For that fought for it and ran! Serves the runners right.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

According to Sharansky, the "doublethink" of the USSR is frighteningly embodied in the modern West, and there this phenomenon is called "political correctness."

It is deceiving that "doublethink" or "political correctness" has always existed from the ancient to the modern West.

[Invoce]

The author of the book believes that Western democracy no longer exists, it has long been destroyed, and it was replaced by "political correctness".

Democracy, by definition, in the countries of "developed Democracy" was NEVER!
There was a dictatorship of "democrats", which transformed into a dictatorship of gays (political directors).

[Doccor18]

Sharansky believes that today the citizens of the United States and European countries are faced with the same choice that faced him in the USSR: to remain himself or "submit to the humiliating dictates of doublethink."

Found the "most deceitful" state - the USSR ...
Politics and lies have been sisters for thousands of years. And the example of the USSR here is not only unrepresentative, but far-fetched. On the contrary, the lies of capitalism have always been many times greater than the lies of the socialist states ...

[Krasnodar]

That was clearly shown by the collapse of the dollar, capitalism and the communism built in 1980 in a single country)).

[Dodikson]

for once agrees with the dissenters.
the west, as predicted by Orwell, has become a purely authoritarian system

[rotmistr60]

Former Soviet dissident ...

It is worth slightly pinching the nose, which is sticking wherever it is necessary, with the state door and immediately a dissident. Well, if the surname is still heard in the circle of the intelligentsia, but they were imprisoned, then a dissident hero, a passionate fighter against the regime. And today it turns out that the US regime will be worse than the "bloody" Soviet one. But just in case, taught in his time by bitter experience, the old dissident decided to wrap it up in a wrapper of some kind of "doublethink".

[yehat2]

those. there is no "Soviet" doublethink. There are only specific processes and people that prevent others from living.

[Sibguest]

Oh. I still beg you Musya Sharansky - do not make my slippers laugh: if you were seen from my Motherland (USSR) in search of a solution to the Evgean question, then your business.
But there is no need to "cram all my compatriots under one bale" with such humus as you!
Yes, far from everything was good in my USSR, but no one started stupidly lying to everyone and to himself from the first minute of morning exercises until the end of the "Time" program.
And what we now see in the "stronghold of crap" is not doublethink, but full bottom - the result of a completely absent critical perception of reality (because THERE such ciliates like Navalny could become SOMETHING, and in US they are NOT SOMEONE AND CALL THEM NONE).
FOR EXPERTS "KNOWING" about the USSR from the manuals of the US State Department - DO NOT BE EXCITED! GO BY.

[orionvitt]

The USSR's "doublethink" is frighteningly embodied in the modern West

With what the west and congratulations. As the saying goes, "Don't this wind, you will reap the storm." For that fought for it and ran.

[iouris]

I would say this is a fascist version.

[ccsr]

According to Sharansky, the USSR's "doublethink" is frighteningly embodied in the modern West,

Sharansky is lying - doublethink has always been inherent in the West, starting with the Crusades.

[Krasnoyarsk]

= The former Soviet dissident believes that Soviet citizens who sought to make a career and become successful were forced to live in an atmosphere of constant and universal lies. They spoke, did and wrote everything as it should be. At the same time, they realized that they were lying, and expressed their true views in the kitchens among family members, as well as among the closest and most reliable friends. =
It seems to me that Sharansky is right just as much as the Jews "were striving to make a career." Personally, I did not have to, as unnecessary, "speak, do and write as expected." He spoke, did and wrote as he thought was right.
The Jews themselves created an "atmosphere of constant lies," and then lived in this lie. And I sympathize with them.

[mark021105]

Soviet citizens, striving to make a career and become successful, were forced to live in an atmosphere of constant and universal lies. They spoke, did and wrote everything as it should be. At the same time, they realized that they were lying, and expressed their true views in the kitchens among family members, as well as among the closest and most reliable friends.

You don't need one size fits all. Although, starting from the time of Khrushchev, this infection gradually corroded society ...