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Zelensky confirmed that three servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were blown up by TM-62 mines in the zone of their own responsibility

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President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy met with high-ranking officials of law enforcement agencies and discussed the issue of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass.


First of all, we are talking about the situation that took place on the line of contact on February 14. On this day, the Ukrainian media announced the loss of three military personnel. Later it became known that they were blown up by mines.

During the meeting of Zelensky with Defense Minister Andrei Taran, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Ruslan Khomchak, member of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on National Security, Defense and Intelligence Igor Gerasimenko, it was announced that the Ukrainian military was blown up in their zone of responsibility. Anti-tank mines TM-62 went off on the territory of their movement.

Zelensky:

The guys were blown up by five TM-62 mines, installed in a checkerboard pattern. At about 9:20 a.m. on February 14, our military moved to serve in the positions of the platoon squad. As they moved along the road along the route, an explosion occurred at about 9:30. An ambulance arrived at the scene, but could not save them.

At the same time, the President of Ukraine declares that there are three versions of the reasons for undermining the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The first version: violation of the rules for handling ammunition and explosive devices. The second is the negligent attitude of the military towards service, expressed in moving to unverified terrain while performing combat missions. The third is a terrorist act.

For obvious reasons, it is easier for Ukrainian security officials to blame everything on unknown "terrorists" than to admit the obvious - a number of Ukrainian units simply do not have maps of minefields created by their predecessors at certain positions near the demarcation line. Earlier, information was repeatedly heard from the Ukrainian military and volunteers that certain officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard allowed themselves to trade maps of minefields in the zone of responsibility.

Now Zelensky instructed the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to check all minefields in the area of ​​responsibility of the units and find out when, by whom and under what circumstances mines were planted.

Zelensky:

I instruct to remove obsolete and inappropriate mines by the end of the month, indicating this in the relevant documents.
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  1. Clear
    Clear 16 February 2021 11: 37
    +6
    Gerasimenko, it was announced that the undermining of the Ukrainian military took place in the zone of their own responsibility.
    More precisely, in the zone of their irresponsibility.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 16 February 2021 11: 52
      +16
      Zelensky confirmed that three servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were blown up by TM-62 mines in the zone of their own responsibility

      WHOO-GO! This is what an elephant you need to be to blow up on an anti-tank mine belay ? (table with actuation forces regular "not modified" handicraft fuse)

      And even during the explosion at the TM-ke, they had to be blown into dust ...





      With fuses of the "pneumatic series" for TM-62, you can "wiser" in a special way, and they will work under the weight of a person, and they can be used as an ersatz anti-personnel mine separately, or for a "big bang" together with TM-62 ...
      1. 113262a
        113262a 16 February 2021 12: 37
        +3
        An ambulance arrived at the scene, but could not save them. So maybe an ambulance? The fact that there are three at once, I believe, but that on foot is a fairy tale!
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 16 February 2021 12: 51
          +2
          I look at the photo in the article and cannot understand what kind of strange furnishings and interiors are for such a serious meeting with the security forces.
          And this turns out to be an airport. Ermak, who has occupied almost half a table, touches even more than two coffee tables with tea utensils put together for one person ...
          Team-95 does not change its habits of meeting in cafes at gas stations smile
        2. yehat2
          yehat2 16 February 2021 13: 05
          +4
          maybe the three of them jumped on a mine and checked how it works?
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 16 February 2021 13: 51
            +4
            It has been repeatedly written that during the rotation of military units, those who leave the minefield schemes were sold for money, if they did not pay, then the schemes were not transferred in full or were transmitted with distortions. Amazing! money on everything, in tr.ch. and on the blood of their "brothers". In this case, no action on the part of the command. Apparently in a share and thus punished the uncooperative.
            A mine could be installed for anti-handling in conjunction with an anti-personnel one. It could stand for a couple of years, the properties of the fuse changed. What to guess exploded and exploded
          2. frruc
            frruc 16 February 2021 17: 43
            0
            Zelensky confirmed that three servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were blown up by TM-62 mines in the zone of their own responsibility ...
            Thanks for the confirmation, dispelled doubts.
      2. nnm
        nnm 16 February 2021 12: 40
        +4
        Also - the first thing I thought about. Moreover:
        The guys blew up on five mines TM-62, installed in a checkerboard pattern.

        How it can be is simply not clear. Yes, winter, temperature fluctuations, maybe something with detonators. But FIVE this is just beyond probability theory.
        Maybe they stood on non-recovery, and inquisitive punishers gave free rein to their playful paws .... but again - FIVE with about the required 200kgf ??? !!

        It looks like the non-brothers took ideas from here to describe:
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      4. TRex
        TRex 16 February 2021 14: 37
        +13
        As a former specialist in this field, I responsibly declare that in order for a normal person to be blown up by a TM-62 mine, you need to have a live weight of 100-120 kg and jump hard right on it - then maybe you will be lucky ... And more: mining step PT min 4 - 5,5 meters... How could they be so shocked as to hit five at once? And one more thing: if, nevertheless, this feat took place - then from the fighters there would be vertebrae and a liver scattered within a radius of 20-30 meters - what is the EMERGENCY AID? There is nowhere to put the thermometer - there are no bodies or holes physically.
        Most likely, they blew up on a stretch, walked in a merry crowd, and covered everyone at once. About five mines TM-62 is a wild fantasy.
    2. Finches
      Finches 16 February 2021 12: 36
      +6
      To explode on an anti-tank mine, you need to try sooooo much - to see the fierce nationalistic anger emanating from the wars of the world, mixed with fumes, Soviet, normal, the mine could not stand it and was de-Sovietized! laughing Even humanly, there is not a drop of compassion for them!
    3. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 16 February 2021 13: 20
      +5
      Three days ago, when this news came out for the first time, Zelensky "for sure" said that three Gridny Ukrainian Armed Forces were blown up by mines on the no-man's land (they were still checking and fervently hoping: what if it was a Russian bomb after all). Then Ze again said about it that "they were blown up presumably by a mine put by the Armed Forces of Ukraine" (there was still a hope that the mine was Russian). Today, already at the meeting, he admitted that already "in the zone of his responsibility and defense, that was blown up (that's all, not a Russian bomb of the TsEZh Bula).
      Summary: Ze tried to stir up a scandal with the guilt of the LDNR or Russia for this tragic event. Thus, he tried to at least partially justify the one-sided and dastardly shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas, they say, look - it was Russian troops who watched the knights on the way and planted a mink on them!
      But it didn't work out to inflate ...
  2. prior
    prior 16 February 2021 11: 39
    +11
    How many times it has been said, you can't mine drunk. Then the wind has nowhere to go.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 February 2021 12: 01
      +4
      Quote: prior
      How many times it has been said, you can't mine drunk. Then the wind has nowhere to go.

      And drunk, walk "to the glass" on the minefield.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 16 February 2021 13: 02
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And drunk, walk "to the glass" on the minefield.

        maybe someone did not agree with someone before this .... the precedents seemed to be ... "According to the investigation, Meshkovets demanded from his colleague, the head of the engineering service of the 58th motorized infantry brigade, who arrived to replace the marines in the Gorlovka direction, cash in the amount of UAH 50 for the transfer of complete information and all maps of minefields in the brigade's area of ​​responsibility "
  3. 41st region
    41st region 16 February 2021 11: 39
    +13
    TM-62 is an anti-tank mine. Should not explode under a person. And here are 5 pieces. So, during the installation, we worked with imagination ...
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 February 2021 11: 55
      +2
      Quote: 41st region
      TM-62 is an anti-tank mine. Should not explode under a person

      And if you found it and decided to dig it? what
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 February 2021 12: 02
        +2
        Quote: Piramidon
        And if you found it and decided to dig it?

        But vodka and lard were not there.
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 16 February 2021 12: 05
        +5
        Quote: Piramidon
        And if you found it and decided to dig it?

        We also had one of this kind ... On the "neutral" of some devil, TMku decided to either remove it, or the fig knows what to do with it (he won't tell you any more). And she apparently was put "on non-extraction".

        They searched for his automatic machine for a long time so that they could present at least some number part, and he himself went to the medical examination in a plastic bag, such that we carry food from the supermarket ...
        1. 113262a
          113262a 16 February 2021 13: 03
          +2
          Mina-garbage-warrant officer decided to pick out ATM from 64! The fucking model aircraft builder! Hands and eyes are gone! The sly one was picking from behind the skating rink of BAT, looking into the holes!
    2. nnm
      nnm 16 February 2021 12: 53
      -1
      So the question is - why such a trap on its territory? Maybe they wanted to arrange a provocation like with a bus in Volnovakha and blame the bombing of civilians on the LPNR?
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 February 2021 11: 41
    +6
    And who, foaming at the mouth, argued that it was "POM-ki" thrown by the insidious militiamen by the holy spirit into the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ... There are handicraft alterations of grenade launcher shots, and what they just did not invent. And here - anti-tank ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 16 February 2021 12: 10
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      There are handicraft alterations of grenade launcher shots, and what they just did not invent.

      Yesterday I saw a photo of such a miracle, someone posted here on VO. Naturally, you can screw anything on the RPG, but POM-2? belay
      She will not "turn around", will not stand on "paws" and will not throw out the thread-sensors, being "tied" to the "stub" of the shot engine ...
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 16 February 2021 12: 27
        +1
        Quote: Insurgent
        She will not "turn around", will not stand on "paws" and will not throw out the thread-sensors, being "tied" to the "stub" of the shot engine

        Well, that's exactly what I wrote ... However, someone "in trousers" very aggressively defended ...
        Photos of handicraft adapters ... But POM-ku who will screw together from this adapter?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 16 February 2021 12: 28
          +2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Photos of handicraft adapters ... But POM-ku who will screw together from this adapter?

          Hto-hto? Let herself and dodges wassat laughing
      2. major147
        major147 16 February 2021 23: 03
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        on a shot RPG

        We are two pieces of TNT 200 g each. screwed on.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 17 February 2021 08: 15
          +1
          Quote: major147
          We are two pieces of TNT 200 g each. screwed on.

          And we, by a sinful deed, tried to fasten with wire and tape 7 (!!!) FOGs that did not work to the GP to the RPG-3 (cumulative) shot ...
          The "experiment" was unsuccessful. The shot went off, and the "harness" fell off 20 meters from the place of the shot. After that, "to avoid" from outside the cumulative nothing else was tinkering, limiting only to the amplification of explosives and various damaging elements inside the cumulative funnel ...
          1. major147
            major147 17 February 2021 13: 38
            +1
            Quote: Insurgent
            tried to fasten with wire and tape

  5. Cowbra
    Cowbra 16 February 2021 11: 43
    +4
    Looks like they saw the emperor Janeloch the First in children's bulletproof vest - in panic they ran wherever they looked
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 16 February 2021 13: 05
      +2
      Laughed strongly. good
  6. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 February 2021 11: 44
    +5
    How did they blow up on an anti-tank mine? Did the three of us climb on top of her? It is necessary to heap at least 1,5 centners on it. Or are they with "trophies"?
    1. Runway
      Runway 16 February 2021 12: 01
      +7
      We put PMN-ku on the tm fuse, we get a land mine against the two-legged, walking in the column.
      "Raise" three of us Five ptm - entry in the book of records. laughing
    2. HAM
      HAM 16 February 2021 12: 12
      +4
      Ze forgot to add that they were driving a tank that the OSCE mission "lost" .... so the loss was found unexpectedly .... this is an explanation about the weight of the soldiers .....
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 February 2021 11: 51
    +2
    Zelensky meets with high-ranking officials
    Judging by the backs of the heads in the photo, the officials are really high-ranking officials. He took the ambassadors on an excursion, sort of like to the "front line", he showed off in a bulletproof vest, now he expressed his grief for the dead. And someone placed the mines and even in a "checkerboard pattern". And that in the Armed Forces of Ukraine it is customary to install mines in a line and mark them with flags (even if only consulted with the military). Themselves stumbled anywhere now periodically come (run over) it is not clear where.
  8. SaLaR
    SaLaR 16 February 2021 11: 56
    +1
    And how did they work? Maybe drunk on them sledgehammer banged? Check type: working or non-working wassat
  9. Tagan
    Tagan 16 February 2021 12: 44
    +1
    Quote: Finches
    To explode on an anti-tank mine, you need to try sooooo much - to see the fierce nationalistic anger emanating from the wars of the world, mixed with fumes, Soviet, normal, the mine could not stand it and was de-Sovietized! laughing Even humanly, there is not a drop of compassion for them!

    The tough tread of the warriors of the Light. Cyborgs.
  10. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 February 2021 12: 58
    +1
    I instruct to remove obsolete and inappropriate mines by the end of the month, indicating this in the relevant documents.

    After that, in a few days, with pomp and balloons, it will be announced that the APU will transfer a batch of new mines in an amount equal to that previously written off.
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 16 February 2021 13: 03
    +2
    Probably these were mine-clearing specialists, and mines were placed by other mine-clearing specialists. An inconsistency, however.
  12. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 16 February 2021 13: 22
    +4
    Rzhu nimagu, "individual akhvitseri" trade maps of minefields ")))) who is related to Banderaffen know that there is a clear rate, with reference to the mileage. )))
  13. xomaNN
    xomaNN 16 February 2021 13: 34
    0
    Dullness internationally crying For 7 years, the front line has not changed dramatically. So uk..r. during rotations, army men pass the plot without reliable maps of minefields. And you only have to blame yourself.

    And so I would like to arrange a hype in uk..r. Mass media about "DNR terrorists" drinks
  14. Stepan S
    Stepan S 16 February 2021 13: 37
    0
    Earlier, information was repeatedly heard from the Ukrainian military and volunteers that certain officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard allowed themselves to trade maps of minefields in the zone of responsibility.

    More than once there was information that during the rotation they sell maps of their minefields to each other. And if they were greedy and did not buy, or there was not enough money for all the cards, here is the result for you
  15. kit88
    kit88 16 February 2021 15: 00
    +8
    Really unique ones.
    Contrived
    - threesome
    - on their own
    - anti-tank
    - in the amount of five pieces
    mines explode. fool
  16. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 16 February 2021 15: 21
    0
    Zelensky confirmed that three servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were blown up by TM-62 mines in the zone of their own responsibility


    They set themselves, they themselves are undermined. Were you drunk?
    Minefield maps, as far as I know, they are too lazy to draw.
  17. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 16 February 2021 15: 22
    -1
    Quote: Insurgent
    Zelensky confirmed that three servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were blown up by TM-62 mines in the zone of their own responsibility

    WHOO-GO! This is what an elephant you need to be to blow up on an anti-tank mine belay ? (table with actuation forces regular "not modified" handicraft fuse)

    And even during the explosion at the TM-ke, they had to be blown into dust ...





    With fuses of the "pneumatic series" for TM-62, you can "wiser" in a special way, and they will work under the weight of a person, and they can be used as an ersatz anti-personnel mine separately, or for a "big bang" together with TM-62 ...


    So they didn't stomp on foot. By transport.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 17 February 2021 14: 21
      +1
      Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
      So they didn't stomp on foot. By transport.


      THIS IS NOT REMEMBERED ANYWHERE.

      At least I have not seen such information request
  18. svoit
    svoit 16 February 2021 19: 10
    0
    Quote: nnm

    So the question is - why such a trap on its territory?

    Well, maybe they just wanted to increase the density of defense by reducing the front of the GP. It is always useful to make unpleasant surprises in the rear, this will lead either to losses or to a delay in the development of the offensive.
  19. svoit
    svoit 16 February 2021 19: 12
    0
    Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
    Minefield maps, as far as I know, they are too lazy to draw.

    Someone will draw it, and someone will sell it to the damned Muscovites
  20. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 16 February 2021 19: 56
    0
    I wonder how the anti-tank mines worked underfoot?
  21. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 16 February 2021 23: 24
    0
    Some kind of nonsense, people on foot cannot blow up on TM-62, but on five how?