"They do not intend to retreat": the Japanese government will seek the return of the "Northern territories"

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"They do not intend to retreat": the Japanese government will seek the return of the "Northern territories"

Japan does not intend to retreat from its positions and will stubbornly seek a solution to the territorial issue with Russia. This was stated by the General Secretary of the Japanese Cabinet of Ministers Katsunobu Kato.

Speaking at a briefing in Tokyo, the Secretary General of the Japanese government said that Japan intends to continue to persistently raise the issue of returning the Northern Territories in negotiations with the Russian side, despite the amendments to the Russian Constitution, which exclude the transfer of some territories to another state.



I think that the government will continue to be determined to persistently negotiate in accordance with our main course towards resolving the territorial issue and concluding a peace treaty

Kato added.

In January, Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga said that Japan intends to finally resolve the issue of the ownership of the southern Kuril Islands (Northern Territories). At the same time, Suga noted that in relations with Russia he would adhere to the same course as his predecessor as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, i.e. develop the entire range of Russian-Japanese relations, including the conclusion of a peace treaty, relying on previous agreements between the countries.

Earlier, the Japanese government said that they still consider the islands of the South Kuril Islands as primordially Japanese territories, and insist that Japan's sovereignty should extend to all "northern territories."
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    1. +44
      15 February 2021 08: 08
      Japan intends to continue to persistently raise the issue of returning the "Northern Territories" in negotiations with the Russian side, despite the amendments to the Russian Constitution, which exclude the transfer of part of the territories to another state.

      Hedgehogs injected, cried, but continued ... The Kuril Islands are ours.
      1. +23
        15 February 2021 08: 20
        Demand beer sludge.
        1. +10
          15 February 2021 12: 19
          Suga noted that in relations with Russia he will adhere to the same course as his predecessor as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe

          Why is this topic constantly peddled in Japan since the post-war era? Where did the legs grow in Japanese politics at the same time, and what was Abe, who was following Mr. Suga? These questions are not at all idle for Russians to understand, for all this directly concerns the national security of Russia itself. Namely.

          First of all. Japan is a revanchist militarist state neighboring Russia with a NAZI government at its head. Namely.
          Abe's maternal grandfather during WWII was a Japanese Nazi and war criminal who was freed from the tribunal in 1945 by the Americans and began working for the United States. Exactly Abe's grandfather created the Nazi Party in Japan, which is still entirely in power in Japan. And Abe's father was an assistant and continuer of the handiwork of this grandfather.

          Secondly. It should be borne in mind that historically the so-called. The "Japanese economic miracle" was created, financed and supported by the US as a SHOWCASE of Japan's well-being in this Pacific region. However, now there is no such return from Japan for the United States. For the Japanese economy is now in stagnation, if not falling. Since Japanese high-tech electronics products have already been squeezed out in the world market by Chinese and South Korean production of the same goods. The Chinese and Koreans have learned to produce the same as the Japanese - and much cheaper than the Japanese.
          therefore To maintain its own economic standard of living, Japan needs blood from the nose, the neighboring Kuril territories, and not only them. And this serves as a reason for the United States to turn Japan into an American ram. in the Pacific zone, primarily against Russia, as well as China.

          Hence the overt criticism in Japan of radical Japanese Nazis against the failed diplomacy of the cunning and experienced Nazi diplomat Abe in his former negotiations with Russia on the Kuril Islands. Suga is in the same position as Abe.

          Therefore, in this regard, Russia must keep its hand on the pulse of Japan's domestic policy, because things there really go to war between Japan (under the patronage of the United States) with Russia.
          1. -1
            15 February 2021 20: 07
            Insane inadequate.
      2. +31
        15 February 2021 08: 34
        One already swore on his father's grave that he would return the Kuril Islands to Japan. Dad in a coffin rolled over a couple of times with the son of a nerd
        1. +5
          15 February 2021 08: 45
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Dad in a coffin rolled over a couple of times with the son of a nerd

          Dad is approaching the second
          At the same time, Suga noted that in relations with Russia he will adhere to the same course as his predecessor as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe,
          1. -10
            15 February 2021 10: 11
            Dad is approaching the second
            I put you a minus, I will explain: there is no need to make jokes about deceased (living) parents, whoever they are, it's just an unworthy person. hi
            1. +8
              15 February 2021 10: 24
              Quote: sibiryk
              no need to make jokes about deceased (living) parents

              Am I joking? And not scurrying to swear by the memory of your parents?
              Is this okay "I swear by my mom" and "beading"?
              I didn't pull them by the tongue, I said answer. But thank you for justifying your assessment hi
              1. -1
                15 February 2021 10: 35
                Why don't you make mistakes? Suga swore already? Still, there are limits to decency. Just in case, I -
                a supporter of the fact that the Kurils are ours, unconditionally.
                1. +2
                  15 February 2021 10: 45
                  Quote: sibiryk
                  Suga swore already?

                  Quote
                  Suga noted that in relations with Russia he will adhere to the same course as his predecessor as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe,

                  Is this not the point?
                2. +3
                  15 February 2021 10: 54
                  Quote: sibiryk
                  Suga swore already? Still, there are limits to decency.

                  Well, if you're not sure, then you don't need to swear.
            2. +5
              15 February 2021 18: 43
              I will explain: there is no need to make jokes about deceased (living) parents, whoever they are, this is just an unworthy person

              Stalin was also the parent of Vasya, Ekatirina the Great, John the Terrible, they were all parents. In the West, they are not "mocked", they are simply mocked at their memory.
              Therefore, you minus.
          2. +6
            15 February 2021 10: 52
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Dad is approaching the second

            In vain, of course, the first swore, not like a man.
            1. +2
              15 February 2021 10: 54
              Quote: tihonmarine
              In vain, of course, the first swore, not like a man.

              Not bravado and not self-promotion
              Never swore on the health and life of his parents
            2. +1
              15 February 2021 22: 15
              This, in our opinion, is not masculine. The Japanese have a completely different mentality, our concepts of masculinity, our values ​​are not particularly popular with them.
              1. 0
                16 February 2021 09: 36
                Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                The Japanese have a completely different mentality, our concepts of masculinity, our values ​​are not particularly popular with them.

                And we "plyuvali" on their values ​​from the big bell tower.
        2. +8
          15 February 2021 08: 55
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          One already swore on his father's grave that he would return the Kuril Islands to Japan. Dad in a coffin rolled over a couple of times with the son of a nerd

          This is the value of true independence. Anyone and however much
          for a long time it can come with Wishlist: "I want this, I want that ...". And you can quietly and firmly say "NO" and thus close the question. Colonial countries cannot understand this laughing
      3. +13
        15 February 2021 09: 04
        I want to show once again who is behind Japan - the USA! Let me remind you that the US State Department ranked all the natives of the four South Kuril Islands Iturup, Kunashir, Habomai and Shikotan as citizens of Japan, back in 2018! You can read about this on the website of the American Foreign Ministry in the rules for drawing green cards, which are held as part of the Diversity Visa program ...
        What is this if not historical revisionism and another attempt at the apotheosis of world evil to question the results of World War II!
        So, once again, the Japanese showed by their statement that they are not an independent player on the world stage and all the texts of their performances are written not in the shadow of the sacred Mount Fujiyama, but overseas, in the silence of offices on Capitol Hill! It is better for this unfinished kamikaze in the photo to think - that he is not a proud son of the goddess Amaterasu, but an ordinary puppet in the hands of overseas owners!
        1. +5
          15 February 2021 09: 59
          Quote: Finches
          It is better for this unfinished kamikaze in the photo to think - that he is not a proud son of the goddess Amaterasu, but an ordinary puppet in the hands of overseas owners!

          To make him think, he needs to tell something. And there is no one. All Japanese propaganda, like a worn-out record, has been repeating only one thing for years - "bring back the kurils". I'm afraid of all in the photo hardly anyone can read something on their own in English, and even more so in Russian. They cannot say for sure who covered them with atomic bombs, what can we say about higher matters, such as history ...? And besides, fanatical nationalism (and the level of nationalism in Japan is decent) is a religion, here rational arguments are useless.
      4. +10
        15 February 2021 09: 30
        "They do not intend to retreat": the Japanese government will seek the return of the "Northern territories"

        Aha winked So you already have nowhere to retreat, you are on an island.
        1. +4
          15 February 2021 10: 11
          Quote: Terenin
          So you already have nowhere to retreat,

          There is where. On the bottom in the tin, maybe a separate state will take
          1. +4
            15 February 2021 10: 20
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: Terenin
            So you already have nowhere to retreat,

            There is where. On the bottom in the tin, maybe a separate state will take

            Well, why should I take them, you never know what they can throw out with a neighbor and then harness for them belay when they are already, they unconditionally fulfill any orders of the Anglo-Saxons.
            And the same is the situation with Ukraine, with its impulses to join NATO. Does NATO need it?
            1. +3
              15 February 2021 10: 28
              Quote: Terenin
              And the same is the situation with Ukraine, with its impulses to join NATO. Does NATO need it?

              For this sedition and "zrada" you have not yet minus the site banderlog? belay
              Looks like they haven't hung over yet laughing
              1. +4
                15 February 2021 18: 39
                Quote: Lipchanin
                For this sedition and "zrada" you have not yet minus the site banderlog?

                Well, you will correct wink

                Quote: Lipchanin
                Looks like they haven't hung over yet

                Why hurry. winked When you have a hangover, all problems fade into the background.
                A hangover is the best way to solve all problems! Yes
          2. +3
            15 February 2021 11: 01
            Quote: Lipchanin
            On the bottom in the tin, maybe a separate state will take

            It has been under occupation since 1945, but the state has not done it. Hawaii received such a status in 1959, but they are not giving it yet (they are probably waiting for the Kuril Islands to be annexed).
      5. +2
        15 February 2021 16: 42
        Quote: Destiny
        Japan intends to continue to persistently raise the issue of returning the "Northern Territories" in negotiations with the Russian side, despite the amendments to the Russian Constitution, which exclude the transfer of part of the territories to another state.

        Hedgehogs injected, cried, but continued ... The Kuril Islands are ours.

        And they are funny, these Japanese. Why don't they ban hurricanes over Japanese territory? laughing
      6. 0
        15 February 2021 23: 24
        The Japanese count on "all progressive humanity"
        including the main godfather of the globe - the USA.
        Therefore, they will press. Moreover, de jure, the ridge does not belong to us.
        The non-aggression pact was only denounced.
        This means that a treacherous attack took place.
        De jure, I emphasize.
      7. 0
        15 February 2021 23: 31
        Such normal hedgehogs, rich and successful, with an economy,
        to which we still dance and dance.
    2. +36
      15 February 2021 08: 09
      Earlier, the Japanese government said that they still consider the islands of the South Kuril Islands as primordially Japanese territories, and insist that Japan's sovereignty should extend to all "northern territories."

      my cat is also trying to view the sofa as its primordially sovereign territory. But one slipper is enough to convince him of the inconsistency of the inclinations
      1. +6
        15 February 2021 08: 20
        Well, our sneakers will be much heavier, but only if the Japanese are too persistent.
        1. +5
          15 February 2021 08: 44
          Earlier, the Japanese government said that they still consider the islands of the South Kuril Islands as primordially Japanese territories, and insist that Japan's sovereignty should extend to all "northern territories."

          I liked about the sneakers! good
          As for the sovereignty of Japan, let it extend to encephalitis ticks. Moreover, they can take them to themselves.
        2. +3
          15 February 2021 13: 11
          Quote: Ru_Na
          Well, our sneakers will be much heavier, but only if the Japanese are too persistent.

          They feel the weakness of the leadership of the Russian Federation in all respects, and therefore do not stop raising this issue. So, what about the sneaker you got excited, the next partners will still pull the cat by the tail.
      2. +6
        15 February 2021 08: 47
        Quote: Ka-52
        one slipper is enough to convince him of the inconsistency of the inclinations

        Then did you write in your slippers? laughing
        And then these restless ones look like cats who can only piss into shoes
        1. +10
          15 February 2021 08: 56
          he simply knows that no amount of protection from the world hegemony (in the person of the "wife-daughter" military bloc) will save him laughing I will declare a punishing blow of retaliation and carry out a "peace enforcement operation" laughing
        2. +4
          15 February 2021 09: 28
          Quote: Lipchanin
          And then these restless ones look like cats who can only piss into shoes

          I note that these restless ones are working hard enough to strengthen their navies: they already have three dozen modern destroyers, several helicopter carriers (it seems like VTOL aircraft can carry them), and they plan to have their own aircraft carrier. Plus, they are actively pumping aircraft weapons, digging hypersonic topics. In general, jokes are jokes, but you need to keep an eye on them closely, because an alarming tendency can be traced.
          1. +2
            15 February 2021 10: 15
            Quote: Kalmar
            but it is necessary to keep an eye on them closely, for an alarming tendency can be traced.

            It is necessary. But while they can only shit on small things
            And our leadership understands this very well and gradually increases
          2. +2
            15 February 2021 11: 06
            Quote: Kalmar
            In general, jokes are jokes, but you need to keep an eye on them closely, because an alarming tendency can be traced.

            It is true that this restless neighbor has been doing dirty tricks for 116 years already, and it seems that he is not going to stop.
          3. +2
            15 February 2021 11: 54
            Quote: Kalmar
            Quote: Lipchanin
            And then these restless ones look like cats who can only piss into shoes

            I note that these restless ones are working hard enough to strengthen their navies: they already have three dozen modern destroyers, several helicopter carriers (it seems like VTOL aircraft can carry them), and they plan to have their own aircraft carrier. Plus, they are actively pumping aircraft weapons, digging hypersonic topics. In general, jokes are jokes, but you need to keep an eye on them closely, because an alarming tendency can be traced.

            Lord, one more. And what's the use of their navy ?! Have you seen their geography? Dependence on the most basic resources, density of objects, overcrowding of the population. Do you think we will not hit their objects and chew snot? And no one canceled the nuclear strike, you can sing as much as you like that their navies are strong (this is where the submarines do not have normal communication and instead of it a mobile phone), but Japan has no chance of winning, now not 41, you do not chase other people's colonies for years.
            1. -1
              15 February 2021 13: 30
              Quote: Quadro
              And what's the use of their navy ?!

              But the Russian-Japanese school is still undergoing ...

              Quote: Quadro
              Do you think we will not hit their objects and chew snot?

              "We will definitely bang, and more than once." That's just what? The strike capabilities of the Pacific Fleet, shall we say, are now rather modest. And with aviation not to say that everything is just great.

              Quote: Quadro
              And nobody canceled a nuclear strike

              You, so I suppose, are among those who like to jam mosquitoes with a peaceful atom? Because of a couple of small islands, no one in their right mind would start a nuclear war.

              Quote: Quadro
              now not 41

              Yes, now it is customary to squeeze out the territory in a quiet way. But without force support, no one turns this trick anyway.
              1. 0
                15 February 2021 22: 23
                The fact of the matter is that the Russian-Japanese pass. The navy is not able to bring victory in the war with the continental state, they can only achieve superiority at the initial stage. In the Russo-Japanese War, Japan went to peace negotiations, since we had established railway communication and, accordingly, there was a tendency for an increase in the number of armed forces. Realizing that on land we would simply smear them, and realizing that because of the revolutionary situation, the Emperor needed an army near the capital, and not on the other side of the world, they rushed to make peace on the terms of the status quo.
                1. 0
                  15 February 2021 22: 34
                  Quote: Pensive Lawyer
                  The Navy is unable to bring victory in the war with the continental state

                  And Japan in this scenario does not need a victory over a continental state. And they have no goal to raise their flag in the Kremlin. Only to squeeze out a couple of islands, which we will have nothing to recapture. Then it will only be necessary to hold them until the legal formalities are settled: a referendum on accession, UN approval (at the suggestion of the Washington regional committee) and other curtsies. The navy will play one of the key roles in this operation.
      3. 0
        15 February 2021 23: 26
        You will not believe, the sneaker is prepared
        in your absence,
        sad fate.
        Cat's lifespan
        longer life of the sneaker.
        On that and stand.
    3. -8
      15 February 2021 08: 11
      It is their obstinacy on the islands that looks just like ours, on the fraternal peoples, with corresponding results.
    4. +10
      15 February 2021 08: 11
      Statement for the domestic consumer of “rice noodles”. The return of the Kuril Islands to Japan will lead to 25 million new jobs. "Please treat this with understanding" (c)
    5. +4
      15 February 2021 08: 12
      intends to continue to persistently raise the issue


      Lift up.
      1. +4
        15 February 2021 08: 48
        Quote: sergo1914
        Lift up.

        "Viagra" to help you lol
    6. +7
      15 February 2021 08: 12
      The Japanese will succeed only in one case ... If there is a betrayal on the part of the highest power of Russia ... If such as Gorbachev and Yeltsin come to power, they will have a chance. The gifts of our territories to the Americans, Norwegians, and Chinese have greatly undermined my faith in the reliability of the highest power in Russia.
      1. +2
        15 February 2021 08: 49
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Gifts of our territories to the Americans

        So what did we "give" them?
        1. ANB
          +2
          15 February 2021 09: 33
          ... So what did we "give" them?

          Look at the treaties on the maritime border with the United States and Norway.
          1. -2
            15 February 2021 10: 18
            Quote: ANB
            Look at the treaties on the maritime border with the United States and Norway.

            Show. Why should I check your words?
            They said prove it.
            How am I supposed to know where did this come from?
            Or should I drop everything and look for what you said?
      2. 0
        15 February 2021 08: 54
        And they (figuratively) left power? Do you seriously believe in the role of personality by the exposed group of persons to fulfill their mercantile interests?
      3. +4
        15 February 2021 09: 44
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        If people like Gorbachev and Yeltsin come to power, they will have a chance.

        There and Medvedev noted
        "How Dmitry Medvedev gave Norway 30 billion euros"
        https://news.rambler.ru/other/44087484-kak-dmitriy-medvedev-podaril-norvegii-30-mlrd-evro/
        "In the first years after the conclusion of the Medvedev-Stoltenberg agreement, the Norwegian Petroleum Directorate (NPD) conducted a study, which resulted in the publication of data shocking for Russia in 2013. In the Arctic territory ceded by Moscow, scientists of the kingdom discovered 300 million cubic meters of hydrocarbon deposits, or 1,9 billion barrels in oil equivalent. The Norwegians have estimated their new reserves at 30 billion euros. "
    7. +6
      15 February 2021 08: 13
      In January, Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga said that Japan intends to finally resolve the issue of the ownership of the southern Kuril Islands (Northern Territories).

      I would like to believe that this worthy descendant of the samurai will make seppuku at the end of his powers.
      Although the phrase is so vague. "Japan" - that is, not he, and not the government, but the whole country.
      "Intends" - that is, wants. Well, you can't forbid desire.
      "Finally decide" - understand as you want. Officially refuse or what?
      No, he will not do seppuku.
      1. +2
        15 February 2021 08: 51
        Quote: Flood
        "Finally decide" - understand as you want.

        Close the door from the back and leave
        On the way, telling how they scared Russia
      2. 0
        15 February 2021 11: 11
        Quote: Flood
        I would like to believe that this worthy descendant of the samurai will make seppuku at the end of his powers.

        If the samurai remained in Japan, then it would not still be under US occupation.
    8. +6
      15 February 2021 08: 14
      And what is incomprehensible here. In the west, Russia was surrounded along the entire perimeter, and in the east, only Japan.
      So the United States is stirring them up with the "islands", not allowing Japan's claims to Russia to fade away.
      1. +2
        15 February 2021 08: 54
        Japan's northern territories, the Bandera's Crimea, the Hungarians of Transcarpathia, Georgia's South Ossetia, Abkhazia. All the claims, they do not take well active hostilities, except for the Bandera people in Donbass. All are on the verge. Nobody wants to coexist peacefully.
    9. +6
      15 February 2021 08: 14
      And Hokkaido will not be lost? Demands are quick-eyed, it seems to me that Hokkaido is a continuation of the Kuril ridge of islands, but not vice versa! am
      1. +3
        15 February 2021 18: 04
        Hokkaido was given to Russia, but at the last moment remained with Japan. Why?
        1. 0
          15 February 2021 18: 08
          I don’t know why IV Stalin didn’t bring in the occupation troops!
    10. +1
      15 February 2021 08: 15
      Take Pearl Harbor. They also fought. But here we have no objections
    11. +4
      15 February 2021 08: 16
      There are themes in this world that do not change.
      1. +4
        15 February 2021 08: 47
        Quote: rocket757
        There are themes in this world that do not change.

        You are right, there are themes in the world. they talk and talk about until they get it in the teeth. Yes
        1. +2
          15 February 2021 09: 00
          So yes, the most effective way to end a conversation ....
          1. +3
            15 February 2021 09: 55
            Why isn't it used? Maybe we don't know something, the door is not closed yet, so the Japanese are trying ...
            1. +2
              15 February 2021 11: 17
              Quote: cniza
              Maybe we don't know something, the door is not closed yet, so the Japanese are trying ...

              If the lock on the door is good, then they will not try to enter this door.
              1. +2
                15 February 2021 11: 29
                It seems that there is a lock, but it is not used ...
      2. +4
        15 February 2021 09: 53
        Quote: rocket757
        There are themes in this world that do not change.


        We ourselves give a reason to raise this issue again and again. Greetings! hi
        1. +1
          15 February 2021 11: 57
          Welcome soldier
          The law of a chicken coop ... if you sit downstairs, it means that it will fall on top of you, it will fall down .... anything.
          1. +2
            15 February 2021 12: 03
            Or the law of draft - if the cracks are not closed, it will blow ...
            1. 0
              15 February 2021 12: 05
              Well, yes, everyone has known everything for a long time, it is clear, but ..... I want to stomp on a rake, alas, alas.
              1. +2
                15 February 2021 12: 06
                So it seems like we've already jumped as much as possible? ...
                1. 0
                  15 February 2021 12: 13
                  Nothing can convince some ... they should have everything differently.
    12. +2
      15 February 2021 08: 18
      Just do not forget that you recently contrived to celebrate the "Day of the Western Territories", while driving into South Korea. So, if something happens, you will be kicked by the whole world - from Russia to Australia (they don't like you there either, even from WWII, yeah. Less need to eat prisoner nurses)
    13. +5
      15 February 2021 08: 21
      How to translate into Japanese: "And the samurai flew to the ground under the pressure of steel and fire!"?
      1. +5
        15 February 2021 08: 49
        Quote: Sibguest
        How to translate into Japanese: "And the samurai flew to the ground under the pressure of steel and fire!"?

        Why is there:
        そ し て 、 武士 は 鋼 と 火 の 圧 力 の 下 で 地面 に 飛 ん だ!
        1. +3
          15 February 2021 09: 45
          Very elegant! good
    14. -11
      15 February 2021 08: 21
      The Japanese need to make it easier.
      Stop letting in
      Russo tourists to their trash heaps ...
      And cut off the supply of spare parts to the jeeps
      to the Kruzaks and Nissans.
      Hardly any of the officials
      in the Russian Federation wants
      change from Kruzak to
      broken-hearted patriot ...
      Well, right-hand drive cars ...
      the whole Far East and the floor of Siberia ...
      Where to change for them ... on
      a bucket of bolts ....?
      1. +4
        15 February 2021 09: 01
        They brought it so that it will be enough for years to come
      2. ANB
        +3
        15 February 2021 09: 42
        ... The Japanese need to make it easier.
        Stop letting in
        Russo tourists to their trash heaps ...
        And cut off the supply of spare parts to the jeeps
        to the Kruzaks and Nissans.

        Ukraine does not seem to owe anything to Japan. Why are you so cruel to the Ukrainians? You make you ride buckets. And climb the trash heaps.
    15. 0
      15 February 2021 08: 22
      By themselves, they do not really need these territories.
      They need a reason not to conclude a peace treaty.
      More precisely, not to them, but to their owners. But it doesn't make it easier for us.
      1. +14
        15 February 2021 08: 42
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        By themselves, they do not really need these territories.
        They need a reason not to conclude a peace treaty.
        More precisely, not to them, but to their owners. But it doesn't make it easier for us.

        Well, you are wrong. These islands "lock" the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, making it an internal Russian one. And there is no place for Japanese fishing vessels ... Well, the straits between the islands are non-freezing. And our Pacific Fleet? His Japanese bases are on these ZAPRUT ​​islands in the Sea of ​​Japan. To go out to the ocean around Sakhalin?
        So we need these islands. And not at all simple scraps of land in the ocean. IMHO.
        1. +3
          15 February 2021 11: 22
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          So we need these islands. And not at all simple scraps of land in the ocean. IMHO.

          Oh, not just "scraps of land", but strategically important for Russia.
      2. +1
        15 February 2021 08: 51
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        By themselves, they do not really need these territories.

        But their alienation from the Russian Federation is impossible according to the law and threatens to inconvenience TF and fishing activities.
    16. +1
      15 February 2021 08: 23
      When will this orgy stop? A peace treaty in the language of diplomats is the presence of diplomatic relations! We don't need any contracts, Isn't it time to tell the Japs directly - fake you?
    17. +4
      15 February 2021 08: 28
      this music will be eternal ...
    18. +4
      15 February 2021 08: 30
      What problems? Let them be part of Russia and they will be happy. laughing
    19. 0
      15 February 2021 08: 31
      And they will finally resolve the issue in two cases.
      - if Russia weakens and it will be possible to bite off something from it again.
      - or if Russia gets stronger and becomes so strong that they themselves will refuse, because it will be more profitable to be friends with her than with America (but "this is fantastic" (c))
    20. +3
      15 February 2021 08: 34
      Apparently, only the new Hiroshima and Nagasaki will help them come to their senses !!!
    21. 0
      15 February 2021 08: 41
      You can fight off the desire of the Japanese to the northern territories.
      I propose the following: to organize a nuclear test site on the island closest to Japan. At the test site, work out all the new models of Russian missile weapons - hyper, super, duper ... and so on.
      The Japanese will enjoy watching the explosions in the line of sight.
      I think the number of people willing to relocate will be greatly reduced.
    22. bar
      -1
      15 February 2021 08: 47
      Japan does not intend to retreat from its positions and will persistently seek

      Nothing else can be expected from these one-celled brothers in reason.
    23. +1
      15 February 2021 08: 47
      You have to rub something on the people, so they chose a topic.
    24. 0
      15 February 2021 08: 49
      Narzan drinking late ... the islands sailed to Russia forever (translate the Russian Constitution into Japanese and read at night) ...
      But you can declare and be indignant ... constantly and persistently ... educate your samurai in the spirit of hatred on the example of the islands ... and other ideological baida
    25. +5
      15 February 2021 08: 51
      Yoshekezu and Mykola sit and cry. The Kurils and Crimea will not return, however.
    26. +2
      15 February 2021 08: 57
      I'm stupidly wondering - how are they going to do this?
      1. +1
        15 February 2021 09: 08
        One day they will announce that they consider the waters around the "northern territories" free for navigation, they will start provocatively violating our territorial waters with their ships (first by border patrol), probing the reaction of our border guards to the screams and increasing howl from the United States that the Russians are militarizing and aggression against Japan, and that it is necessary to strengthen this flank of NATO and oppose "Russian aggression". Then the Yapas with US ships will swim closer and closer to the islands, ignoring the calls of our border guards. And the demonstrative bursts of automatic cannons against the movement of the violating ships will then shout at the UN Assembly: Aggressive Russians interfere with free navigation in common waters, tk. these islands were seized illegally by the Russian communist aggressors in the course of the fact that even Sakhalin was Japanese before the war ...
        In this manner, with shouts, screams and provocations, they will try to squeeze our people out of there. And, if the power in the Russian Federation in subsequent years will be soft and "pro-democratic", if they are afraid of new sanctions, if "new democrats and Gaidars" come to rule, then the northern territories will go to Japan.
        1. 0
          15 February 2021 09: 15
          I don't think that Putin will allow this. For all its flaws, I don't think so. I know that Putin is a crap, but these are just words - in fact, he is creating an empire.
        2. +1
          15 February 2021 09: 38
          Do you realize that Japan lives in the world - by proxy? China did not attack or destroy it purely due to an innate habit of calculating the most unimaginable negatives. But if there is not even a theoretical chance of trouble, as in the case you described - everyone will be shoved off to the Russian Federation, then in such a situation China will be the first to fail with the proposal of a coalition with the Russian Federation and Japan will end in a day.
          The Japanese understand this - read their press. They sit there, they are afraid to fart once again, so as not to attract the attention of China
          1. 0
            15 February 2021 14: 05
            An extremely curious point of view. But the samurai beat the Chinese, beat, and will beat)
      2. -1
        15 February 2021 09: 09
        They are not going to. But the people in a patriotic impulse, in good shape and in various nonsense are not interested. And questions about what the newcomers from Hindustan are doing here can be left unanswered. The snail is successfully distracted and crawls along the Fuji slope ...
    27. +2
      15 February 2021 09: 02
      It's not about the Japanese, it's about ours. As long as ours agree to discuss something, to refute something, to enter into a dispute, then everything will be so.
      The question is closed and there is nothing to discuss!
      1. 0
        15 February 2021 19: 13
        Quote: APASUS
        It's not about the Japanese, it's about ours. As long as ours agree to discuss something, to refute something, to enter into a dispute, then everything will be so.
        The question is closed and there is nothing to discuss!
        The best defense is ATTACK angry
        Raise the issue of the return of Russia to the primordial RUSSIAN ISLANDS OF BORODINO (two islands - North and South Borodino) good When meeting with a Japanese, in an official, private, friendly ... instead of "Hello ..." - "Return the Borodino Islands ..."... To end any conversation with a Japanese - "Return the Borodino Islands !!!"
    28. +1
      15 February 2021 09: 03
      "Intentional - not intentional." Who cares about your intentions? You don't have any northern territories. Do not stop kinking at all there will be no.
    29. +2
      15 February 2021 09: 10
      This question could be solved with one blow of the fist (or boot) on the table. If only our economy could somehow be compared with the Japanese one.
      The bitter irony is that when the shoe banged on the table, Japan was at the level of a poor village.
      Years passed. Everything changed to the opposite.
      The Japanese can now even afford to buy these islands for at least 350 lard dollars.
      So fight us back and fight back ..
      1. +1
        15 February 2021 10: 08
        The Japanese can now even afford to buy these islands for at least 350 lard dollars.
        But does Japan really have that kind of money? Just don't talk about those that are stored in the United States. What is in the usa belongs to the usa. If they want to give, if they don't want to give, they will send. Japan is an occupied country, no one is going to reckon with its opinion. And with the demand to return all the money, even more so.
        1. -2
          15 February 2021 10: 44
          This amount was announced by the Japanese themselves 20 years ago, when this whole story was gaining momentum.
          1. -1
            15 February 2021 15: 31
            So I can say what I will buy for a trillion. And then another 20 years to bargain, moaning that the crisis, money is not enough, sell it at a cheaper price, but better for nothing. With these whiners will become. They can whine better than dancers. The client is not self-sufficient, and even in such volumes he is insolvent. There is even nothing to talk about.
    30. +4
      15 February 2021 09: 13
      Another earthquake happened to Japan's next demand to give her the Kuril Islands
    31. +2
      15 February 2021 09: 44
      Some kind of wild insanity, by God.
      Maybe they need to repeat the pyrotherapy course?
    32. +1
      15 February 2021 09: 45
      The mantras of the Japanese leaders about our islands are bored. They will not get islands. But the defense must be strengthened. And let the Yapas make themselves a sepuku because of unfulfilled hopes ...
    33. +2
      15 February 2021 09: 49
      In Europe, the eternal aggressor is Germany. In Asia, Japan. And after all this, they still try to demand something. And themselves, by the way, are the US colony. The technical excellence of their cars, computers, never returned their territories and elementary independence.
    34. +3
      15 February 2021 09: 51
      "They do not intend to retreat": the Japanese government will seek the return of the "Northern territories"


      Or maybe not pay attention to their groans?
    35. +1
      15 February 2021 09: 52
      Surprised by the cross-eyed, striped ones, they even consider the Moon their own, and soon they will get to Mars, so what? You can't put a scarf on every mouth. Tryndet, do not roll bags
    36. 0
      15 February 2021 10: 15
      Japan does not intend to retreat from its positions and will persistently seek a solution to the territorial issue with Russia
      Well, once again, they pleased themselves, got inspired and sat down again to wait for Russia to present the Kuriles to them on a silver platter. Those that are in the photo from childhood are waiting, but the sick cannot wait. Soon the posters of forces will not be lifted.
    37. 0
      15 February 2021 10: 49
      The media reported about another leak of poisonous radioactive water from the damaged Fukushima nuclear power plant after the recent earthquake. The Japanese need to deal with the elimination of this catastrophe so as not to poison the waters of the World Ocean, fish resources and people. But no, they cherish plans to seize the territories of neighboring countries. So it turns out that the Japanese want to seize Russian territories in order to abandon their infected and long-lived Japanese islands and move to ecologically clean places of the planet! Another "exceptional"?
    38. -10
      15 February 2021 11: 32
      during World War II, Japan did not attack the USSR, but vice versa. this is the first.
      Secondly, the USSR continued to occupy the territories after the Japanese settlement for several more weeks.
      I don't think Russia has legal rights to the Kuril Islands.
      After World War II, neither the US nor the UK added new territories, think ...
      1. +1
        15 February 2021 15: 06
        Minus from me and think why ????? And you in vain dragged the United States and small shavens ... The Yapas themselves will not drive them out of themselves ... And the Germans from their presence are not happy by the way after the Second World War fool
    39. +1
      15 February 2021 12: 05
      It's high time to shake them off 200 tons of gold, reparations for the Second World War and the civil war. And also for illegal fishing and the occupation of Hokkaido. They will immediately grow wiser ...
    40. 0
      15 February 2021 12: 35
      I think that a good continuation of the Russian Federation's policy on this issue will be the advancement of territorial claims against Japan. And at each meeting, discuss all claims ...
    41. +1
      15 February 2021 13: 07
      Poor Japanese people. The Americans constantly set them on us, forcing us to demand these islands. That is, they already have a kind of fetish, an unattainable dream.
    42. +1
      15 February 2021 13: 47
      “The war negates all agreements. You were defeated, and let's proceed from the current situation. " (c) Yutaro Komura

      I do not understand why ours do not respond with this quote. laughing
    43. 0
      15 February 2021 13: 52
      Moscow. January 24. INTERFAX.RU - Lloyd Austin, approved as the new Secretary of Defense in the administration of US President Joe Biden, assured his Japanese counterpart Nobuo Kishi that Washington is ready to assist in defending Japan's sovereignty over the disputed Senkanu Islands (the Chinese name for Diaoyudao) in the East China Sea, According to the Pentagon, "Minister Austin has confirmed that the Senkaku Islands are subject to Article 5 of the US-Japan Security Treaty, and the United States continues to oppose any unilateral attempts to change the status quo in the East China Sea." , - said in the message spread by the Pentagon about the conversation.

      The treaty provides for mutual military assistance in the event of an armed attack by a third party on one of its participants.

      Austin also thanked Kishi for "Japan's continued leadership in the implementation of UN Security Council resolutions on North Korea."

      The Senkaku Islands (Diaoyu Islands), currently under Japanese control, have long been the subject of a territorial dispute between Japan and China. It was said that Biden would love China ... and here it already smells of war ... will they fight until the last Japanese? After all, the Japanese car industry, you know, has flooded the whole world, Toyota does not allow Tesla to turn around! And then - bam bam, and the Chinese Dongfeng will settle this situation once, two or three! Profit! Again, the entire Chinese coastline, from Hong Kong to Port Arthur, can fall under a radiation cloud from exploding Japanese nuclear power plants. And this will force American corporations to transfer production and orders to India ... In general, the old way to make America "great aegine" is through a war between international competitors. laughing
    44. 0
      15 February 2021 13: 56
      The Chinese will kick in on radars and vigorous power plants, so the region will get the apocalypse. This is exactly what the Americans want. And the total GDP of this region is about 30% of the world. Accordingly, a huge niche for the western corporate world.

      PS: In general, "interesting people" live in that region. I remember when the Japanese nuclear power plant exploded - the Koreans and the Chinese only nodded approvingly, some increased car exports, others had a reason to say that "the Japanese are finally punished for their sins." laughing
    45. -2
      15 February 2021 13: 59
      Give back the Kuril Islands, subject to joining Nippon and the rest of Russia !!!
    46. 0
      15 February 2021 14: 00
      In case of hostilities between Japan and Russia, China will support Russia. But if China faces it, there is no doubt about Russia's assistance to China. And Japan will never play a big role in the world, especially after the next earthquake. laughing
    47. +1
      15 February 2021 14: 24
      "Ears from a dead donkey !!!" Let the mattress makers demand compensation for Hiroshima and Nagasaki !!!!
    48. 0
      15 February 2021 15: 34
      laughing Funny people, like their Ampire Prince Fumimaro Konoe, wanted to surrender Dzhugashvili soldiers and officers of the Kwantung Army as SLAVES
      Let's read this paragraph of the document:

      “We will demobilize the armed forces deployed abroad and take measures to return them to their homeland. If this is not possible, we will agree to leave the personnel in the places of their present stay. " And further: "Labor can be offered as reparations." belay
      On April 25 (May 7), 1875 in St. Petersburg, Alexander Mikhailovich Gorchakov from Russia and Enomoto Takeaki from Japan signed an agreement on the exchange of territories (St. Petersburg Agreement).

      According to this treaty, in the ownership of the Russian Empire in exchange for 18 Kuril Islands (Shumshu, Alaid, Paramushir, Makanrushi, Onekotan, Harimkotan, Ekarma, Shiashkotan, Mussir, Raikoke, Matua, Rastua, islets of Sredneva and Ushisir, Ketoi, Simusir, Brotus islets Cherpoy and Brother Cherpoev, Urup) the island of Sakhalin was completely transferred.

      The agreement amended the provisions of the Shimodsk treatise of 1855, according to which Sakhalin was jointly owned by the two countries.

      Residents of the exchanged territories could return to their homeland or stay in place. They were guaranteed freedom of religion, property and the right to engage in trades, subject to acceptance of citizenship and obedience to the laws of the country to which these possessions departed. Russia allowed Japanese ships to visit the port of Korsakov on South Sakhalin, where a Japanese consulate was established, without paying trade and customs duties for 10 years. Japanese ships, merchants and fishery producers were granted the most favored nation treatment in the ports and waters of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and Kamchatka. What is stopping them?
    49. 0
      15 February 2021 16: 23
      And we have a question of the eastern territories. When will you give Hokkaido - where did the Ainu (subjects of the Russian Empire) live to whom you quick-eyed committed genocide?
    50. 0
      15 February 2021 17: 13
      There is still "not much" to strain and the Japanese will achieve their goal. Clowns.
    51. 0
      15 February 2021 17: 32
      Naive Japanese children, by God.
    52. 0
      15 February 2021 18: 38
      The Japs are already fed up with claims to the islands, let them ask America from those who burned them with an atom!
    53. 0
      15 February 2021 22: 23
      By its reluctance to sign a peace treaty, Japan clearly shows that it is our potential enemy, controlled by puppet masters in Washington. To break the enemy, you need to break his fighting spirit. Russia's recent exercises in the Kuril Islands succeeded in this -
      The Japanese became despondent after the news of Russian exercises in the Kuril Islands:
      “Military exercises and shootings of the Russian army in Kunashir? Yes, they are already taking aim at Hokkaido! So forget about the “northern territories”! Lest the fire spread further!”
      see https://ria.ru/20210206/ucheniya-1596268616.html
    54. 0
      16 February 2021 20: 54
      The Japanese government will seek the return of the Northern Territories

      So Japan returned these territories to the USSR back in 1946, so the issue is closed. soldier

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