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The famous duel in the United States of 1804, when Vice President Aaron Barr and Alexander Hamilton met in a duel. The latter was wounded and died the next day ...


Have rushed. He orders the servant
Lepage fatal trunks
Carry after him, and the horses
Drive into the field to two oak trees.

"Eugene Onegin" A.S. Pushkin

History firearms weapons. More recently, people were, well, the most perfect savages. So the same nobles, even a slanting glance, were considered an insult, which was washed off only with blood.

It is not surprising that duels were universally forbidden, because they took the lives of royal servants without any war, while the nobles should have died only in the interests of the king.

Thus, King Henry IV of France banned dueling on pain of death. And then Kings Louis XIII and Louis XIV followed his example (although not very successfully, according to A. Dumas).

The duelists were punished equally severely by the decree of the King of Prussia Frederick II.

However, this did not stop the nobility.

Honor hostage weapon
Dueling set by Le Page 1842-1868 Caliber of pistols 12 mm, rifled barrels. It was completed with accessories: a charging ramrod, a bullet, a powder flask, a powder measure and a cleaning. The most important was the powder measure, because special attention was paid to the amount of powder in the barrel when loading pistols. The seconds measured out the required amount in front of each other, making sure that the charges were the same. A pistol set with loaded pistols was delivered to the duel site just before the start of the duel. Photos courtesy of Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

"... And after death, hang by the legs!"


In Russia, the creation of a new Russian aristocracy was initiated by Peter I.

And, in theory, all the best should be borrowed from the West, and the worst should be left and left alone. But such a verb of desire at all times remained the voice of one crying in the wilderness. That is, everything was borrowed.

Therefore, Peter had to take care to introduce dueling into at least some framework. That is why in his "Military Regulations" he provided for the "Patent on duels and the initiation of quarrels."

But in 1715, Peter forbade dueling.

And he did not just forbid, but indicated that

"Those killed in a duel are also subject to death penalty."

In his military article it was written:

“All challenges, fights and fights through this are strictly prohibited <...>

Whoever perpetrates against this, of course, both the caller and whoever comes out, has to be executed, namely, hanged, although one of them will be wounded or killed, or although both are not wounded from that will move away.

And if it happens that both or one of them is a remnant in such a duel, then they will be hanged by their feet after death. "


Gollner's dueling pistol from Suhl. Caliber 12,7 mm, rifled barrel, richly inlaid with silver with floral motifs, as well as the manufacturer's name and Gothic letters "In Suhl". Inlays on the lock with the name "Goellner / In Suhl", inlaid with gold. There are gold inlays on the trigger guard and individual details. Walnut stock. Around 1830-1840 Photos courtesy of Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

"Couple of Death"


Although at first the main weapon of the duelists was the cold one - a tradition still from chivalrous times, people soon realized that the use of pistols to a large extent equalizes the possibilities of duelists: and the difference in age and in their physical fitness was no longer as important as before.

And learning to shoot accurately was easier than skillfully fencing with swords. A nobleman, and even more so an officer, was simply obliged to be able to shoot accurately. So it is not surprising that already in the second half of the XNUMXth century, it was pistol duels that dominated among all others. Moreover, public opinion, as before, supports the duelists, and does not support the law. That is, people were wild then, wild.

There is a need - there is also a response to it. Already at the end of the 1th century, the design of dueling pistols was fully developed, as was their very appearance. Like the former cavalry pistols of cuirassiers and reiters, they were always made in pairs, and looked like twins. And the only thing that distinguished them was the numbers 2 or XNUMX on the trunks.

According to the dueling code, it was forbidden to shoot from familiar weapons. It was not even allowed to even try the trigger quality of the pistol received from the second. And his own weapon could be used only in the most extreme cases - duels for life and death (due to the "mortal insult"). But this was usually always negotiated between the seconds. And the opponent of the one who proposed it had to agree with it.

Waterproof lock and schneller


The tradition to design dueling pistols so that they differ from others was established by master pistols from England.

Although before them, European gunsmiths worked hard in this field. And, in particular, the French. Since, according to the rules, a misfire in a duel was equated to a shot, they tried to improve the flintlock in such a way that it did not misfire.

Therefore, it is in dueling pistols that flintlocks have reached their maximum perfection. But the last word was said by the British.

They created a waterproof lock, in which the lower part of the flint, which at the same time served as the cover of the powder shelf, began to adhere to it so tightly and so precisely that it became possible to shoot even in wet weather and rain. The bullet was necessarily wrapped in leather and driven into the barrel with a ramrod (blows of a special wooden hammer). And it doesn't matter - smooth or rifled. It was just that the bullet went harder into the rifled barrel.


Waterproof lock on Rippon's dueling pistol. Photos courtesy of Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

The rules allowed the use of both rifled and smooth-bore pistols. If only they were paired. Some pistols were equipped with a soft trigger. However, the duelists preferred pistols without a schneller.

Since the excitement with him made it easier to fire a random shot, which, nevertheless, was counted. One could easily shoot before the duelist could aim well. Therefore, according to experts in dueling, a rough descent was preferable in this situation.

"Nine grams in the heart ..."


Ergonomics also played an important role - the shape of the pistol grip, which helped to hold it and better control the barrel. All this made it possible to make a very accurate shot.

Thus, it is known that A.S. Pushkin from a distance of ten steps could hit a card ace with a bullet. That is, he shot no worse than the book Natty Bumpo and the Count of Monte Cristo.

A charge of gunpowder and fairly heavy bullets should have provided destructive power.

The latter were round, lead, had a diameter of 12-15 mm and a weight of 10-12 g.

The weight of gunpowder in the charging chamber could reach 8,8 g.

When in the 60s. XX century, a special expert commission studied the circumstances of the death of Lermontov, then several dueling pistols of the XIX century were tested. It turned out that in terms of their penetrating power, their bullets are only slightly inferior to the bullet of the TT pistol. But it is known that she could pierce eight pine boards at a distance of 25 m.


Dueling pistol by R. Wogdon, circa 1775. 11-inch barrel, 13-mm caliber. Walnut stock with burnished steel details. The original rosewood ramrod with a horn. Signature "Vogdon" on the lock and on a silver inlaid oval medallion on the barrel. The classic Wogdon dueling pistol was converted in the 1820s and converted into a capsule pistol. Wogdon was the most famous dueling pistol master of his day. Photos courtesy of Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

With such perfection of dueling pistols and the small distance from which it was customary to shoot (and especially in Russia), one can only wonder why duels did not end with the death of one of the participants every time.

The only possible explanation is the peculiarity of firing a flintlock pistol.

Immediately after pressing the trigger, the trigger hit the flint, there was a flash of powder on the shelf, and then some time passed (albeit very short) before the powder in the barrel ignited and the shot itself took place. All this time, it was very difficult to hold the pistol in the right direction: with a flash on the shelf, the hand involuntarily twitched, and a cloud of smoke from it usually obscured the target.

Famous masters who made dueling weapons existed in every country.

The Englishman Joseph Menton and the Mortimer family produced excellent dueling pairs in England.

In Germany, the Küchenreitor family from Regensburg was known, which for almost two centuries perfected in the art of making pistols.

Well, France was famous for pistols made by Nicolas Boutet and, of course, Henri Le Page.

Saying "lepage" was like saying "dueling pistol." So about him, Pushkin writes:

"Lepage fatal trunks."

It is interesting that once, namely in 1829, Le Page made a dueling pair with wheel locks.

What was it? Master's whim or order? Or did he want to compete with the masters of the past?

Who knows…


A pair of Joseph Manton pistols, circa 1814 Around 1828-1830 converted to capsule. The barrel is 10 inches long, caliber 12 mm. Details are finely engraved and blued. Polished Damascus steel barrels. Walnut grips with horn end caps. Photos courtesy of Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

By the way, the Le Pages family business was founded in 1743.

Until 1822, it supplied its weapons first to the royal and then to the imperial court of France.

Le Pages were renowned not only for the quality of their wares, and especially of their dueling pistols, but also for their fine finish. They were covered with exquisite tapping, inlay, carving and engraving, and delicate taste turned the most commonplace product into a work of art.

So it is not surprising that the regular clients of the House of Le Pages were persons from the high society, as well as many foreign sovereigns and very noble foreign persons.


Joseph Manton's double-barreled pistol set. Photos courtesy of Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

By the way, it is interesting to note that the official regulations on duels appeared rather late.

For 150 years, people have used either orally transmitted rules, or copied in notebooks by hand. And in each country they were different.

And so it was until 1836, when the Parisian "Jockey Club" decided to start working on them. 76 very prominent personalities of France took part in the development, so to speak, of the official dueling code. After which it was signed by them and published in print.

Moreover, here we, as it happened more than once, unfortunately, turned out to be ahead of the whole planet by far not in the best way.

If in the West a duel was in many ways a formal ritual, then our nobility, like in France during Richelieu's time, took such fights seriously.

In Russia it was, in fact, a legalized murder. Since the minimum distance we considered was three steps, and the distance of six or eight steps was practically the norm.

In Europe, they shot at least 15 steps. And usually the distance was set at 25-30 steps.


Dueling pistol L. Omber from Marseilles. The barrel is 10 inches long, octahedral. Caliber 11 mm. A beautiful French dueling pistol with an ebony stock, a gold wire inlaid trigger and other metal details. Photos courtesy of Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

True, since the middle of the XNUMXth century in Europe (and even here in Russia) morals have softened.

And along with them, the dueling rules were gradually softened. Although in Russia, among the officers' environment, duels took place and quite legally took place until the beginning of the XNUMXth century. (Remember, for example, "Duel" by A. Kuprin).

But then they were already shooting from regular revolvers. And dueling pistols gradually migrated to museums.

Well, we will tell you about a couple of the most famous duels in Russia in the next two articles.

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  1. polpot
    polpot 24 February 2021 18: 04
    +21
    Great article and illustrations, thanks.
    1. Destiny
      Destiny 24 February 2021 18: 25
      +16
      I definitely join! I liked the author's series of articles about weapons, as well as the comments to them. You can learn a lot of interesting things ... Thank you.
      1. kalibr
        24 February 2021 18: 33
        +21
        Quote: Destiny
        You can learn a lot of interesting things ... Thank you

        There will be a sequel about the duels of Pushkin (the article is ready, I am waiting for permission from the Hermitage to publish their photos) and Lermontov.
        1. Destiny
          Destiny 24 February 2021 18: 52
          +13
          Let's wait, I've read a lot about the duels themselves, but somehow I didn't focus on the weapons that were used in them, the more interesting it will be to familiarize yourself, thank you in advance for (I no longer doubt after reading several articles) pleasant reading. in googel, here I will read and look at photos.
        2. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 24 February 2021 19: 18
          +7
          Vyacheslav Olegovich hi Thanks for the great, beautifully illustrated article! Comrades ... in connection with the changes in the law "On weapons" 150 FZ, We can become "happy" owners of a pair of dueling pistols (hot guys - we are in no hurry to call "opponents" to a duel ... laughing) You can buy a pretty decent pair ~ 200 thousand ... recourse prices for very "decent" and even with a history - well ... much higher. But at least some relief for collectors. Oh ... how much I want to compete with the "semi-finalists" Martynov Nikolay Solomonovich and Dantes Georges Charles - Poets cannot be killed No.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 24 February 2021 19: 56
            +10
            Poets cannot be killed
            Poets are different.
            "I am François, which is not happy,
            Alas, the death of the villain awaits,
            And how much does this ass weigh
            The neck will soon recognize. "(C)
            The same Lermontov was the most unpleasant person.
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 24 February 2021 20: 08
              +10
              Anton hi There were no “fluffy bunnies” among poets at all. Talent and even more Genius - always goes to the joint of society, well, they are "different" - and for this We both Respect and Love them. Only the words of Lermontov “Yes, there were people in Our time, not like the Present Tribe” - challenge society.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 24 February 2021 20: 20
                +1
                Alexey! hi
                Bunnies are bunnies, however, how excited the "hamsters" are! laughing
                1. Hunter 2
                  Hunter 2 24 February 2021 20: 24
                  +4
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  Alexey! hi
                  Bunnies are bunnies, however, how excited the "hamsters" are! laughing

                  Let them have fun laughing a rat, this is not only a belly, but also a designation for these characters ... the testicles are not enough to write an argument ... but the finger reflex works laughing well ... whoever studied what, someone only poked with a finger in .... and knows how, let's forgive the poor.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 24 February 2021 20: 33
                    +6
                    No, excuse me, I can understand that someone may not be familiar with the biography and work of F. Villon, but when an individual minus a quote from Pushkin ... request fool negative
                    1. Hunter 2
                      Hunter 2 24 February 2021 20: 37
                      +3
                      Anton, spit already ... just a Dim character (s). It is a pity that the "rats" have leaked into Armament and History! Apparently there is not enough space - to shout Everything is lost, Everything was stolen ... ah, ugh - I forgot about the Pension laughing
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 24 February 2021 21: 00
                        +4
                        spit already
                        Already spat, hit the Petri dish. Now I have discovered the exploratory Levenguk-Flemming syndrome. wassat
                      2. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 24 February 2021 21: 06
                        +3
                        It's good that not in the Esmarch's Circle laughing
                        Let's tie it up with the syndromes wassat Better a drink for the coming sleep drinks
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 24 February 2021 21: 14
                        +3
                        And violate the purity of the experiment? Not! What if you get a cure for stupidity ???
        3. Korsar4
          Korsar4 24 February 2021 20: 33
          +4
          "Pokrovskie Vorota": "And what are all poets - like this?" (from).
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 24 February 2021 20: 50
            +7
            "I am walking along the corridor of the Writers' House. Andrei Voznesensky is meeting me. The question is, could I not kick him in the face?" (FROM)
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 24 February 2021 20: 58
              +3
              “They knocked on the door - I didn't open it.
              I'm not a beast with people. I'm just tired ”(c).
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 24 February 2021 21: 06
                +3
                "Let go of the young hare,
                In small Vorotz,
                An evil glaive on the doorstep
                Carry away the bunny feet "(C)
                1. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 24 February 2021 21: 15
                  +2
                  "I thought, sighing sadly,
                  That he has friends
                  After grandfather Mazay
                  There was no one left ”(c).
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 24 February 2021 21: 22
                    +3
                    "At Peter the Great,
                    There is no one close
                    Just a horse and a snake
                    That's his whole family "(C)
                  2. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 25 February 2021 00: 08
                    +3
                    "- What are you, unsatisfied nag, stumbling?" (from).
                  3. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 25 February 2021 07: 32
                    +2
                    "And for this I,
                    So hurrying down the road
                    With a magic gramophone
                    In his carriage "(C)
                  4. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 25 February 2021 07: 40
                    +3
                    "Were at the hedgehog
                    An umbrella from the rain "(c).
                  5. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 25 February 2021 07: 44
                    +3
                    "With a hole in the right side" (C)
  • kalibr
    24 February 2021 20: 42
    +6
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    The same Lermontov was the most unpleasant person.

    This is very mildly said, Anton ... I was in Pyatigorsk in his museum, and in Taman, and in Tarkhany ... and I read a lot of things about him ... But I don't blame Martynov. Lermontov became a great poet after his death, while many indulged in rhymes at that time. The same Martynov. But no one canceled the rules of the noble "hostel". Martynov was a major, and Lermontov was a lieutenant. And it is not necessary for the sake of their own complexes to do on the head of everyone else. A bullet can be the answer. And she did!
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 24 February 2021 20: 52
      +3
      Lermontov became a great poet after death
      "Today you will die,
      Tomorrow they will say - Poet! "(C)
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 24 February 2021 22: 08
      +1
      Quote: kalibr
      Lermontov became a great poet after death

      Yes? lol
      Quote: kalibr
      many dabbled in rhymes at that time.

      Why didn't they become great after death? request
      Quote: kalibr
      I don’t blame Martynov.

      For some reason I am not surprised.
      1. kalibr
        25 February 2021 07: 49
        +5
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Why didn't they become great after death?

        Because the difference is made especially noticeable after death. But poetry is one thing and life among people is another.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 25 February 2021 08: 18
          +3
          But poetry is one thing and life among people is another.
          I remembered two more similar historical figures: Egil Skalagrimsson and Bertrand de Born.
        2. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 25 February 2021 12: 28
          +2
          Quote: kalibr
          Because the difference is made especially noticeable after death.

          Do you want to say that someone from those who "composed the PICTURES" composed something like "Mtsyri", "Demon", "Borodino", but only a little, well, just a little, worse than Lermontov's? So slightly that it was immediately imperceptible and became noticeable only after the death of Lermontov? You have amused me once again.
    3. Richard
      Richard 25 February 2021 00: 22
      +8
      As Prince A.I. Vasilchikov, who witnessed the quarrel between the poet and his future murderer Martynov in the house of General Verzilina, Lermontov decided, in the presence of the ladies, clearly showing off, to make ambiguous jokes about the dagger that Martynov was wearing. The latter especially did not like the fact that Lermontov deigned to mock him in front of the girls. A conversation took place between them:
      М - “I have repeatedly asked you to stop these unbearable jokes for me, but now I warn you that if you once again decide to choose me as a subject for your severity, I will make you stop.”
      Л“I don’t like the tone of your sermon, and you cannot forbid me to say what I want about you. Instead of empty threats, you would do much better if you acted. Do you want a duel? You know that I never refuse duels, therefore you will not frighten anyone with this "
      .... I didn't have to repeat it twice - on July 27 the duel took place.
      Like this. But ... I stop, so as not to spoil the pleasure of readers from the next article by Vyacheslav Olegovich about the duel of Lermontov.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 25 February 2021 09: 03
        +1
        Sorry, but with the difference in rank, the reliability of the story raises some doubts.
        1. kalibr
          25 February 2021 11: 51
          +3
          Quote: EvilLion
          Sorry, but with the difference in rank, the reliability of the story raises some doubts.

          There is such a publication "Lermontov Encyclopedia". Compiled back in the USSR. It's all there ... No need to doubt. We must open it and read it.
          1. Richard
            Richard 25 February 2021 13: 28
            +2
            Another interesting point, but Lermontov and Martynov were friends. visited each other's parents. It is known that a few weeks before the duel Martynov took care of the sick Lermontov
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 25 February 2021 21: 03
        +1
        Quote: Richard
        As Prince A.I. Vasilchikov, who witnessed the quarrel between the poet and his future murderer Martynov in the house of General Verzilina, Lermontov decided, in the presence of the ladies, clearly showing off, to make ambiguous jokes about the dagger that Martynov was wearing. The latter especially did not like the fact that Lermontov deigned to mock him in front of the girls. A conversation took place between them:

        But no one deigned to think about the fact that this quarrel, quite possibly, had a background. And, most likely, it was. The result of this backstory was Lermontov's mockery of the dagger. And we do not know how Martynov behaved in this background. And no one investigated what goals Vasilchikov pursued at the trial, was he telling the truth or ...
        1. Richard
          Richard 25 February 2021 21: 12
          +2
          I agree with you. Surely there was a prehistory, because:
          .... M - "I was before repeatedly I asked you to stop these unbearable jokes for me

          Moreover, the testimony of not only Vasilchikov, but also of others, including Martynov himself, was recorded at the trial. All this is in the public domain.
          But let's not get ahead of the author, his next article is just about this duel.
    4. Stas157
      Stas157 25 February 2021 05: 16
      +23
      Quote: kalibr
      Lermontov became a great poet after death, rhymes while many indulged in

      But he did. Therefore, it is not at all worthwhile to assess high creativity so low, presumptuously calling the verses of great poets rhymes.

      The starting point is the question - who is the evaluator and who is the poet? The poet, it is clear that he is great, but who is the appraiser? No one.

      Personally, I am greatly hurt by the dastardly murder of Pushkin in a duel. Since childhood. It's a shame that such a poet was not saved ... I would have killed this Dantes myself))
      1. kalibr
        25 February 2021 07: 46
        +7
        Quote: Stas157
        It's a shame that such a poet was not saved ...

        It is impossible to save the one who himself became the instigator of almost 25 duels!
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 25 February 2021 09: 24
          +3
          I started looking for a list, well, let's say https://peterburg.center/story/vse-dueli-s-pushkina-sostoyavshiesya-i-nesostoyavshiesya-poedinki-russkogo-poeta.html

          A very funny quote.

          1828 year. Pushkin challenged the Minister of Education Alexander Golitsyn to a duel. Reason: Pushkin wrote a daring epigram on the minister and he arranged for him to be interrogated with partiality. Outcome: The poet and publicist Fyodor Glinka kept the opponents from dueling.


          You cannot summon a senior in rank, let alone a direct superior, to a duel, and the minister, especially if he really interrogated Pushkin, would not even discuss a duel. I would just kick in the ass. Otherwise, there would be a lot of smart people, your superiors will run over you, and you will duel them, especially if you are 20-30 years younger and you have nothing to lose. That is, the very formulation of the question of a duel raises doubts.

          Yes, and the number of failed duels seems to hint that yelling and waving fists ominously is welcome, but either the violent one was immediately put in place, or there was no talk of a duel initially, and then attributed, ("not in Sportloto, but in preference") in the end this is not a kid, we agreed to shoot, so shoot, or don't make a noise. In the end, young nobles, for their violent drunken youth, had to become participants in conflicts dozens of times, which from the point of view of society were only drunken quarrels, after which the participants came to their senses, and the society, to the cries that "I will shoot you," answered that "go sleep it off".
      2. kalibr
        25 February 2021 07: 55
        +5
        Quote: Stas157
        rate high creativity so low

        And no one evaluates. Many people really wrote poems. And not everyone believed that their poems were worse than those of Lermontov. People are biased, yes. Appraisers are people who always think better of themselves than others. The fact that Lermontov's poems stood out against the general background was recognized by society. But how did they stand out in HIS OPINION? And now the most important thing. If they confessed OPINION, but not so much that it is very strong. Then ... it is not surprising that Martynov did not see a great poet in him (and did not want to see him!), And therefore everything happened to them.
      3. Korsar4
        Korsar4 25 February 2021 08: 56
        +5
        I agree with you.
        It is enough to read any line.

        Lermontov, like Pushkin, is with us in life.
        From "Borodino" to "I go out on the road alone."
    5. EvilLion
      EvilLion 25 February 2021 09: 02
      +1
      Who is now interested in Martynov's opinion. Yes, and a major summoning the lieutenant is already something wrong in itself, it was impossible to summon a superior, in principle, but a senior officer who runs into a lieutenant is as if Lermontov himself summoned a peasant.

      Many also fought in duels, "and a monument to Pushkin was erected."

      Giordano Bruno was also, as far as I understand, an extremely stubborn person. The Inquisition was not right about this.
      1. kalibr
        25 February 2021 11: 48
        +2
        Quote: EvilLion
        Who is now interested in Martynov's opinion.

        Now yes. At that time, society looked at it somewhat differently.
      2. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
        Andrey Krasnoyarsky 27 February 2021 15: 17
        0
        But with regard to "you cannot call a superior" you are completely wrong, even more wrong, comparing an officer with a peasant. In matters of honor, there were no ranks and positions, the main thing is that both duelants must be nobles. There were only two restrictions: you cannot call persons of imperial blood, and it is also undesirable to call your immediate superior. Martynov and Lermontov were not in subordination, none of them were of royal blood, so everything is fine with the challenge.
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 24 February 2021 20: 55
    +6
    Alas, it is.
    Once upon a time I came across memories of the great poet M.Yu. Lermontov, his classmates at the military school and fellow officers, published in the 19th century for some of his anniversary. Very unflattering, as a person, there were no good reviews about him. In contrast to the kind and sociable handsome Martynov. It's a pity Lermontov didn't manage to leave the army ...
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 24 February 2021 22: 10
      +2
      Quote: RoTTor
      Very unflattering, as a person, there were no good reviews about him.

      And who are the judges? Is it possible that the rake Martynov and his comrades?
      1. kalibr
        25 February 2021 07: 56
        +4
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Really rake Martynov and his comrades?

        All sorts of people who did not even know Martynov. You read ... everything is on the Internet. You cannot live in a society and be free from its laws. Even great poets should remember this.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 25 February 2021 12: 13
          0
          Quote: kalibr
          All sorts of people who did not even know Martynov.

          This does not mean anything. But the fact that people, not like everyone else, are bullied and sown with mud has long been known. Mediocrity always envies and hates the outstanding.
          1. kalibr
            25 February 2021 13: 08
            +2
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            But the fact that people, not like everyone else, are bullied and sown with mud has long been known. Mediocrity always envies and hates the outstanding.

            Yes, this is also a well-known fact. I faced this myself - and I come across it constantly, including here. But as for the outstanding people of that time, it would not be a sin for them to take care of themselves a little, and not to be on the rampage. You cannot live in a society and be free from its morals and traditions.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 25 February 2021 13: 13
              +2
              Quote: kalibr

              Yes, this is also a well-known fact. I faced this myself - and I come across it constantly, including here. But as for the outstanding

              ABOUT! So you are outstanding with us? Lack of modesty won't make you sick. laughing
              Quote: kalibr
              But as for the outstanding people of that time, it would not be a sin for them to take care of themselves a little, and not to be on the rampage.

              Why are these empty words?
            2. kalibr
              25 February 2021 13: 23
              +2
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              So you are outstanding with us? Lack of modesty won't get you sick.

              Everything is relative. Of course, I will not write a second "Hero of Our Time". But ... the novel "Let's Die Near Moscow ..." is not without reason withstood two reprints. What about articles on VO? Do you personally have a lot of them? And how many have your novels survived reprints? Are they published in Germany and published in Singapore? So someone is much, much lower than Lermontov, but ... higher than many, many others - isn't it? And this excess, albeit small, mediocrity is also not forgiven.
            3. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 25 February 2021 13: 34
              +2
              Quote: kalibr
              two reprints. What about articles on VO? Do you personally have a lot of them? And how many have your novels survived reprints? They are published in Germany and

              Chukchi is not a writer, Chukchi is a reader. And how many "products" have you made even slightly similar to mine? By the way, millions of people use my products, but how many readers do you have?
            4. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 25 February 2021 13: 38
              0
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              By the way, millions of people use my products, but how many readers do you have?

              What exactly do you make, just wondering?
            5. kalibr
              25 February 2021 14: 49
              0
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              And how many "products" have you made even a little bit similar to mine?

              You cannot compare the incomparable. You are an engineer by training, but I am not. And I can compare myself to those who write. But how you can compare your "products" with my work if you are a Chukchi reader, I do not understand.
            6. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 25 February 2021 16: 00
              +4
              [quote = kalibr] And I can compare myself to those who write. But how you can compare your "products" with my work if you are a Chukchi reader, I do not understand. [/ Quote]
              Yes, I do not compare. Just answered your trick - Quote: kalib Do you personally have a lot of them? And how many have your novels survived reprints? [/ quote]
              And I appreciate your work as a reader with 60 years of experience.
              [quote = Hunter 2] What exactly do you make, just wondering? [/ quote]
              Nothing already. Chukchi is a pensioner.
          2. kalibr
            25 February 2021 14: 55
            -1
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            how many readers do you have?

            Well, 40 books in the USSR, Russia, England and Germany probably have a lot too. And also the magazines "Young technician", Family and school, School and production, Club and amateur performances, Secrets of the twentieth century, Secrets and mysteries, Technique-youth, Tankomaster, History illustrative, Questions of history, Military modeling, Model grafiks, Technics and weapons , Science and technology, The world of technology for children ... Probably, it will also be decently typed. So let's not face off n .... mi, we are not in the sandbox.
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 25 February 2021 16: 32
      +19
      Quote: kalibr
      I faced this myself - and I come across it constantly, including here

      Well, you are insolent!))) Why do you consider yourself great, and your opponents - mediocrity?))) Unexpectedly.

      But I believe that recognition from people should occur. But neither from himself. Otherwise, this diagnosis is obtained, which by the way is treated (in specialized institutions).
    3. kalibr
      25 February 2021 16: 43
      +2
      Quote: Stas157
      recognition from people must come.
      And it, Stas, comes from people. Or are you just reading yourself here, but you don't see what others write? Just here there are a lot of comments with recognition. And no one would publish my books and articles, especially books, and especially abroad, if people did not like them. Can I explain it easily?
      "Vyacheslav Olegovich! Articles are space! Keep it up, I join the fans of your work" This comment was especially pleasant for me to read!
    4. kalibr
      25 February 2021 16: 47
      +1
      Quote: Stas157
      Why do you consider yourself great?

      Why such extremes? I am very far from greatness. But there is a level of a certain height. And I do not consider my opponents to be mediocre. Everyone! But some of them are beyond doubt. It is enough to read what they write.
    5. kalibr
      25 February 2021 16: 51
      +1
      Quote: Stas157
      But neither from himself.

      But this is absolutely correct. So far, we do not know anything about your achievements and cannot judge how much you have achieved.
    6. Stas157
      Stas157 26 February 2021 16: 30
      +12
      Quote: kalibr
      So far, we do not know anything about your achievements and cannot judge how much you have achieved.

      So I do not stick out myself and do not declare myself great, like some)), so that people would later say to me like: in words you are Leo Tolstoy, but in deeds you are "single"))
      I have nothing against your creativity, with the exception of attacks on the USSR. Well, sometimes you are engaged in narcissism, which is frankly amusing. It's really hard not to resist and not put a hairpin hi
    7. kalibr
      26 February 2021 19: 09
      0
      Quote: Stas157
      It's really hard not to resist and not put a hairpin

      Good luck, Stas. You will understand what's what only when you have 40 published books, 1400 articles on VO, 310 on Pravda. RU. Well ... then there are countless times when you have enough intelligence and knowledge for your own magazine popular throughout Russia, and much more.
  • Mother Theresa
    Mother Theresa 25 February 2021 19: 49
    +2
    In the absence of good reviews, Lermontov was received in all houses, even invited.
    1. kalibr
      25 February 2021 21: 13
      +2
      Quote: Mother Teresa
      In the absence of good reviews, Lermontov was received in all houses, even invited.

      Read what contemporaries wrote about him. You always confuse his talent as a poet and character in terms of everyday life. We are talking about the everyday aspect of the life of the then nobles. Poetry for them was a secondary matter. A hobby in which he excelled. The main thing was service, but he was bypassed by an award, bypassed by rank, exiled to the Caucasus, not rich ... Daughters were not given for a poet at that time, but for officers and landowners. Everyone knew how many souls and estates they had - it was appreciated ... The life of the nobles at that time was different from ours.
  • AUL
    AUL 25 February 2021 09: 59
    0
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Poets cannot be killed

    Others are simply necessary.
    Deutschland, Deutschland Huber Alles,
    Hubert alles in der welt ..
    Also the poet wrote.
  • Richard
    Richard 24 February 2021 19: 30
    +5
    “All challenges, fights and duels through this are strictly prohibited.
    Whoever perpetrates against this, of course, both the caller and whoever comes out, has to be executed, namely, hanged, although one of them will be wounded or killed, or although both are not wounded from that will move away.
    And if it happens that both or one of them is a remnant in such a duel, then they will be hanged by their feet after death. " Peter I

    Interesting moment: According to Feofan Prokopovich, vice-president of the Holy Synod, Bishop Theodosius, during the next discussion of the issue of punishing the duelists in 1721, he proposed to excommunicate them (both those who survived and those who died) from the church and anathematize them. However, Peter the Great considered such a punishment to be "cruel" and decided to limit himself only to the "sovereign's" punishment, and not to "God".
    Although, in my opinion, Feodosius's proposal would significantly underestimate the number of duelists in Russia
  • Alien From
    Alien From 24 February 2021 19: 45
    +6
    Vyacheslav Olegovich! Articles are space! Keep it up, I join the fans of your work hi
    1. kalibr
      24 February 2021 20: 37
      +5
      I just finished writing an article about "derringers" - I'll post it tomorrow and it will become the 6th one for moderation. So count it when you read it ...
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 24 February 2021 21: 21
        +2
        Moderator is our modern sorcerer)))
  • yehat2
    yehat2 25 February 2021 12: 51
    +1
    It seems to me that the duels were in vain with the help of weapons.
    if they were melee, they would be much less likely to ask for no particular reason.
    1. Kisa
      Kisa 25 February 2021 21: 39
      +1
      Quote: yehat2
      if there were melee

      how do you imagine mahach if the difference in weight, height, age ... theoretically there is no chance.
      I would like to know in more detail how the procedure took place - if from six meters then this is a guaranteed murder and then the right of the first shot is a guarantee of survival. overseas on Colts, gentlemen found out at the same time grabbing the trunks and this is probably true, although it is difficult for us to judge from the sofas
  • Richard
    Richard 24 February 2021 19: 52
    +3
    Join.
    Thank you for the article
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 24 February 2021 18: 08
    +6
    Each era went crazy in its own way!
    Vyacheslav Olegovich thanks for the topic!
    Regards, Vlad.
    1. Richard
      Richard 24 February 2021 19: 46
      +6
      Russian duel code of V. Durasov

      Durasov's Code (1912) is a Russian dueling code, created on the basis of European codes and taking into account the practice of dueling in Russia.
      Source: Durasov V. Dueling code. - 4th ed. - SPb .: Type. Sirius, 1912. - 126 p.
      link: https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Dueling_code_V._Durasov.
      (You can read or download it from this link)
      1. Richard
        Richard 24 February 2021 19: 48
        +5
        Curious: In 2018, a draft of the Dueling Code of the Russian Federation was submitted to the Russian parliament, completely identical to the code of Durasov, in which the concept of "nobleman" was replaced by the term "state and municipal employee", and "commoner" was replaced by the term "citizen". The initiative, as it turned out, [was more of a joke than a real proposal. Less than 2 weeks later, the bill was withdrawn by the initiator and removed from the State Duma's consideration by its profile committee.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 25 February 2021 01: 05
          +4
          Quote: Richard
          “Nobleman” was replaced by the term “state and municipal employee”, and “commoner” was replaced by the term “citizen”. The initiative, as it turned out, [was more of a joke than a real proposal. Less than 2 weeks later, the bill was recalled by the initiator and removed from the State Duma's consideration by its specialized committee.

          Not surprising. So that every citizen could afford to kill a civil servant legally ... That way, the State Duma would have to choose every year because of its high mortality rate.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 24 February 2021 18: 09
    +6
    It wouldn't be bad, as before
    In a cap, with epaulets ...
    For the girl in the early morning
    Shoot pistols

    What if the cherry blossoms fell
    From a bright slap in the face
    What would bullets and swords decide
    Where is the truth, where is the lie, and where is the truth ...

    But modern girls
    Alas, duelists are not needed.
    Honor and loyalty
    They seem too strange to them

    Although they also have:
    In crazy and drunken nativity scenes -
    It wouldn't be bad, as before ...
    In caps, with epaulets ...

    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!)
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 24 February 2021 18: 33
      +14
      It, you know, everything is beautiful and noble.
      But if the bullet decides who is right and who is wrong, where is the lie and where is the truth, then the well-aimed scoundrel and bastard at once ceases to be such?
      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 25 February 2021 10: 52
        +3
        But if the bullet decides who is right and who is wrong, where is the lie and where is the truth, then the well-aimed scoundrel and bastard at once ceases to be such?

        In the Middle Ages, it was possible to decide whose truth was by a judicial battle. Offhand, you can recall the failed duel of Heinrich Bolingbroke and Thomas Mowbray. How, here is such a harsh medieval truth.
    2. kalibr
      24 February 2021 18: 36
      +12
      Many girls, Nazarius, are now bragging about how much they drank and how they vomited after that. And not "some there", but college students. It's not worth shooting for such hoes ... Although - yes, there are others, as always, there are exceptions, but rarely.
    3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 24 February 2021 21: 15
      +2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      It wouldn't be bad, as before
      In a cap, with epaulets ...
      For the girl in the early morning
      Shoot pistols

      What if the cherry blossoms fell
      From a bright slap in the face
      What would bullets and swords decide
      Where is the truth, where is the lie, and where is the truth ...

      But modern girls
      Alas, duelists are not needed.
      Honor and loyalty
      They seem too strange to them

      Although they also have:
      In crazy and drunken nativity scenes -
      It wouldn't be bad, as before ...
      In caps, with epaulets ...


      Uh-huh on the street minus thirty-plus. Mom asked to let her cat out into the street. The cat said you're a dunduk and didn't even leave the apartment. So a cap is not an option for a cap with earflaps - our everything.
      Epaulettes, for epaulettes today you need to go to the Guard - their musicians have a similar version of the uniform !!!
      He shoots for a girl, but what for? - coldly - I began to train the expression of my mother's cat "you dunduk"!
      So that the cherries fall, there is not a cherry tree in the subfield, but here, even if a bomb is blown up, only bullfinches will faint.
      A bullet and a sword do not solve anything, especially in determining the truth and lies.
      Well, somewhere like that!
      1. Richard
        Richard 24 February 2021 21: 59
        +11
        Shooting for a girl, but nafig need

        -Tell Rzhevsky, is it true that you fought with Bezukhov because of Natasha Rostova?
        Not really. It was me who shot at Bezukhov because of Natasha, and he shot at me from behind a tree lol
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 25 February 2021 07: 07
          +5
          And no one will sympathize with the tree.
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 25 February 2021 10: 12
            +3
            Quote: Korsar4
            And no one will sympathize with the tree.

            The tree shook itself off, put in its memory a kryzhik “the tenth dunduk in five years”, between the marks “five times Mikhil Potapych scratched his back” and “Dog Watchdog from the village of Gadyukino marked the roots 11 times”, and waited for the next one!
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 25 February 2021 11: 28
              +2
              Dogs are more persistent.
              And the wood from the areas of hostilities was not taken at the sawmills - the metal in the trunk.
              1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 25 February 2021 12: 04
                +1
                Quote: Korsar4
                Dogs are more persistent.

                The village of Gadyukino was located 10 versts away. So you are right Dogs are more persistent !!!
      2. Korsar4
        Korsar4 25 February 2021 07: 05
        +4
        A nice warm hood helps out too. And Spring is coming.
  • Catfish
    Catfish 24 February 2021 19: 00
    +8
    Lepage fatal trunks


    "They invented the Lepage glue gun! It sticks together a whole flight of planes in the air!" (S. D. Heller, Catch 22) smile

    Good evening everyone, special thanks to Vyacheslav. drinks

    1. Gato
      Gato 24 February 2021 19: 21
      +9
      "You deigned to eat my carrots ..
      To the barrier! "
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 24 February 2021 19: 53
        +4
        This is not a Duel am but a solid criminal offense of Article 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation am
        Although Duel is a criminal offense and the article is the same ... but at least "romanticism" is present wink
        1. Gato
          Gato 24 February 2021 20: 01
          +5
          solid criminal offense 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation

          Nope, no more than Art. 245 part 1 - cruelty to animals for the purpose of causing him pain and (or) suffering, including for hooligan or selfish motives laughing
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 24 February 2021 20: 04
            +5
            One word - Poacher !!! am
  • Bormanxnumx
    Bormanxnumx 24 February 2021 19: 00
    +10
    The weight of gunpowder in the charging chamber could reach 8,8 g.

    With such a weight of gunpowder, the one who did not shoot is likely to survive laughing For comparison, a 12-gauge cartridge is loaded with 6-6.5g of a smoker and the recoil is very unpleasant, so this is with a gun weight of about 3.5 kg and a long barrel, and here a kilogram short barrel belay
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 24 February 2021 19: 44
      +10
      Even gunpowder of the XNUMXth century and our "Polar Bear" are two big differences. Therefore, in modern tests, the hitch is selected very carefully and is not guided by old data.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 24 February 2021 19: 22
    +4
    "Here's a good shot," I said, addressing the count.

    - Yes, - he answered, - a very wonderful shot. Are you good at shooting? He continued.

    “Pretty much,” I answered, glad that the conversation had finally touched on an object that was close to me. - In thirty paces I will not miss the map, of course, from the familiar pistols.

    - Right? - said the countess, with an air of great attentiveness; - and you, my friend, will you get into the map at thirty paces?

    - Someday, answered the count, we will try. In my time I did not shoot badly; but for four years now I have not taken a pistol in my hands. "(c)
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
  • ee2100
    ee2100 24 February 2021 19: 25
    +8
    In fact, the topic of duels is very important.
    In one of the halls of the Hermitage, dueling pistols from Le Page and
    domestic, maybe they are similar in technical characteristics, but aesthetically! 1000% French in front.
    A question to the author. Who bought the duel pistols?
    On the other hand, it's a pity that duels were banned, there would be less empty chatter and insults. am
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 24 February 2021 20: 07
      +7
      Who bought the duel pistols?


      Like who? Whoever had money bought it! laughing

    2. Gato
      Gato 24 February 2021 20: 10
      +4
      On the other hand, it's a pity that duels were forbidden, there would be less empty chatter and insults

      Yeah, and those who did not accept the challenge would cease to be accepted in "society". What a grief lol And so yes, there would be a lot of people who would like to poke around, for example, with Gorby or Chubais ...
    3. kalibr
      24 February 2021 20: 34
      +3
      Quote: ee2100
      A question to the author. Who bought the duel pistols?

      I do not know. Somehow I didn’t think about it ... Probably everyone did. That is why they turned to the seconds. Who, they say, will lend a couple unknown to me ... But I don't know 100%.
      1. ee2100
        ee2100 24 February 2021 20: 48
        +2
        Earnestly! Everyone had dueling pistols for every "fireman"
        But what about the thesis about their sighting?
        I will not speculate, but this is a very important moment in a duel.
        1. kalibr
          24 February 2021 20: 54
          +3
          You couldn't have shot them. Completely new to both duelists, unfamiliar. What is the zeroing here? And why? 15 steps away?
          1. ee2100
            ee2100 24 February 2021 21: 22
            +5
            I could be mistaken, let the experts in the dueling code correct me, pistols were bought by the second who summoned his principal for money in the presence of the second second. I don't remember where I read about it. Naturally, the seconds before the duel actively communicated.
            1. ee2100
              ee2100 24 February 2021 21: 49
              +5
              I found it at Y. Lotman, via Wikipedia
              "Opponents came to the field of honor, each with his own pair of pistols, testified by word of honor that the weapon had not been shot, then they determined by lot which pistols to shoot from."
              Maybe so. Also beautiful!
  • Undecim
    Undecim 24 February 2021 19: 36
    +3
    A charge of gunpowder and fairly heavy bullets should have provided destructive power.
    The latter were round, lead, had a diameter of 12-15 mm and a weight of 10-12 g.

    The caliber of dueling pistols was usually in the range of 11-17 mm. Hence the round lead bullet weighed between 8 and 30 grams.
    Accordingly, if we take the initial velocity in accordance with modern data of about 250 m / s, then the bullet energy will be from 250 to 940 J.
    For comparison, cartridge 9 × 18 mm PM - 300 J, 7,62 × 38 mm Nagant - 305 J,
    7,62 × 25 mm TT - 480-700 J.
    1. Bormanxnumx
      Bormanxnumx 24 February 2021 22: 17
      +3
      For the then large-caliber pistols of 15-18mm caliber, the bullet speed was about 150m / s, and in small calibers it reached 200-250m / s. The energy of the bullets does not exceed 400J.
  • Undecim
    Undecim 24 February 2021 20: 11
    +8
    The rules allowed the use of both rifled and smoothbore pistols.
    The British considered the use of rifled pistols "unsportsmanlike". Therefore, most of the English dueling pistols Wogdon & Barton, Durs Egg, Manton, Mortimer, Nock, Purdey are smooth-bore.
    On the contrary, the French considered the choice of smooth-bore pistols cowardly.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 24 February 2021 20: 35
    +4
    In Europe, they shot at least 15 steps. And usually the distance was set at <25-30> steps. Wimps! negative
    Now it is clear why dueling pistols with rifled barrels prevailed! For "range"! bully
    It's different in Russia! the minimum distance we considered was three steps, and the distance of six or eight steps was practically the norm.
    "Shoot! Through the scarf!"

    In Russia, they even shot from revolvers! (True, in the movies!)

    It's good that not from revolvers with optics!
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 24 February 2021 22: 34
      +3
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      "Shoot! Through the scarf!"

      The drawing does not quite correspond to the call to shoot through the handkerchief, although in Europe it may have happened that the handkerchief covered the rivals from each other, like a screen, but in Russia the concept of "Shooting through the handkerchief" presupposed the following: the opponents took the corners of the handkerchief with their left hand diagonally (and it should be noted that then the scarves were larger, the EMNP was 50 cm and sometimes more, in contrast to the modern 20 cm.) They stretched the scarf in outstretched hands and with the right "bang". You understand the minimum distance, death is guaranteed, and they fired on command at the same time. Here, whoever is lucky.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 24 February 2021 23: 10
        +7
        Quote: Captain45
        in Russia, the concept of "shooting through a headscarf" presupposed the following:

        I met on the Internet similar to what you described! There is also a Russian "dueling code" of different times on the Internet ... It's just that I did not give "special" meaning to this comment ... it "passed" from me as an "unassuming" joke ... especially since the phrase "shoot through the handkerchief "was going to" glue "to a fragment from the film" That same Munchausen ", to Theophilus! But a suitable "shot" was not found "quickly"; and then this picture turned up that you did not "like"!

        Through a scarf. The opponents stood with their backs to each other and held on to the edge of the scarf, stretched diagonally between them with their left hand. On command, they turned around and fired.
        1. Richard
          Richard 25 February 2021 01: 19
          +3
          Vladimir hi
          And what about Russian roulette?
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 25 February 2021 09: 19
            +3
            Quote: Richard
            And what about Russian roulette?

            Well, "Russian roulette" is a well-known "vesch" ... from literature! Although ... is this "roulette" Russian or ... like "Russian" and "roller coasters"? The point is that in the 19th century the "dueling code" was already "settled"! The duels described in the code and conducted according to the rules of the code were considered "correct" ... but there were also "wrong" duels, which were often invented on the go! For example, the "opponents" agreed (this is in a war ...) to go through a minefield ... or jump over a wide ditch "teeming" with crocodiles ... and the like! In addition, "Russian roulette" is often referred to as simply creepy entertainment of the military, who were fatally "sick of" the long war!
            PS By the way, you've "touched on" an interesting topic! You can write a separate article about "Russian roulette" ... there is enough material! fellow
          2. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku 25 February 2021 11: 00
            +4
            And what about Russian roulette?

            A duel on sausages? wink drinks
            Somehow irritated Otto von Bismarck summoned the scientist - doctor Rudolf Virchow, who ruffled his nerves in the Reichstag, to a duel.
            - Excellent, - said Virkhov, - my choice of weapon. We will duel on sausages.

            If someone has now imagined throwing cakes or contests where you need to eat as much food as possible per unit of time, forget it. Virchow was not joking. His terms shocked Bismarck.
            Virkhov suggested using one sausage in its original form, and infecting the second with the larvae of parasitic worms of nematodes, and specifically with Trichinella. Further, the rivals choose a sausage for themselves, eat it - and it will be seen on whose side Fortune is.
            Let's skip the unappetizing consequences of Trichinella infection, note only that these parasites cause deadly trichinosis. The medicine of that time was completely powerless before him from the word. Virchow could not come to a duel, pumped up with antibiotics (they were simply not invented then), but this was not needed. Bismarck refused, saying that the risk was too great for him.
            Before that, the warlike German leader took part in 27 duels. In memory of his stormy youth, he had a scar across his cheek from a blow with a sword for the rest of his life. But, as it turned out, cold steel is nothing in front of a sausage.
            Moral: don't mess with the bespectacled people!

            Details on warhead.su:
            https://warhead.su/2017/09/12/duel-na-sosiskah
  • Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 24 February 2021 21: 20
    +4
    But it is known that she could pierce eight pine boards at a distance of 25 m.
    I will clarify about TT:
    eight 2-centimeter pine boards.
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 24 February 2021 22: 39
      +3
      Quote: Bad_gr
      I will clarify about TT:
      eight 2-centimeter pine boards.

      Not 2-inch? Something I remember in the article about the history of "Nagant" was the condition that he had to break through a packet of 4 or 5 pieces. 2 '' pine dry planks being tested? Not? Correct who remembers.
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 24 February 2021 23: 52
        +3
        Quote: Bad_gr
        eight 2-centimeter pine boards.
        Quote: Captain45
        Not 2-inch?
        Pine board thickness 25mm.
        Bullet from TT
        from a distance of 20m punches 8 pieces
        from a distance of 100m ------------- 5 pieces

        Took from here https://guns.allzip.org/topic/36/2186612.html
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 25 February 2021 00: 14
          +1
          Quote: Bad_gr
          from a distance of 20m
          Misprint, the document says 25m.
  • motorized rifle
    motorized rifle 24 February 2021 21: 31
    +3
    It turned out that in terms of their penetrating power, their bullets are only slightly inferior to the bullet of the TT pistol. But it is known that she could pierce eight pine boards at a distance of 25 m.
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, again? Be so kind as to express the distance to the Moon in the thickness of pine boards, or at least how many of these notorious boards fit in one meter?
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 24 February 2021 21: 59
    +1
    = But it is known that she could pierce eight pine boards at a distance of 25 m. =
    A very interesting unit of measure lol
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 24 February 2021 22: 44
      +2
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      = But it is known that she could pierce eight pine boards at a distance of 25 m. =
      A very interesting unit of measure

      Combat strength
      From 35 steps (25 m) on a package of dry pine boards, 2,54 cm thick, located at a distance of 8 cm from one another, punching is observed: 3 boards - 100% bullets, 4 boards - 70%, 5 boards - 25%. One board pushes up to 200 steps (140 m)
      I found an article from 2012 about "Nagant", but unfortunately I did not keep the links.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 25 February 2021 11: 02
        +1
        V.O. will tell about Nagar and there will probably be about his breakthrough
        1. kalibr
          25 February 2021 11: 55
          +1
          Will be, will be about Nagant, do not worry. There is just so much material that it's time to write a book, not an article ...
          1. vladcub
            vladcub 25 February 2021 12: 59
            +2
            I have no doubt about it: you are a hardworking person
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 25 February 2021 09: 51
    +2
    great article. Bravo to the author.
  • tank66
    tank66 25 February 2021 10: 30
    +4
    I thank the author for the "dessert".
    And what prevented the duelists from raising the yield in the dead was -andrenaline / I think so /.
    I will not search, it is not so important. In the old, old issue of the "soldier of fortune" came across statistics of the use of firearms "to kill" by American policemen for several years ...
    So during shootouts at distances from 3 (!) To 15 m with theirs, beretta-glocks just hits / not even "naglushnyak", with 2-3 shots / four-that about 40-50%. And what they did in shooting galleries laughing
  • vladcub
    vladcub 25 February 2021 10: 59
    +2
    Curse on the head of Samsonov and the developers of the tablet. In the "story" Samsonov and come on and went to YouTube, and the tablet sat down.
  • Trilobite Master
    Trilobite Master 25 February 2021 11: 15
    +4
    Well, I, as usual, missed and did not have time.
    Excellent article, Vyacheslav Olegovich, thank you. Yesterday morning I checked "Armament", but in the evening I did not guess ...
    Okay, I'm starting to get used to it, nothing can be done smile
    1. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 25 February 2021 20: 00
      +3
      Michael, good evening. I also looked at the site in the morning: nothing significant, except for Samsonov, and then guests. The hostess will be good if she leaves the guests, and she herself will climb the sites. This is strange to say the least. I haven’t met such people, have you?
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 25 February 2021 20: 38
        +2
        I have met.
      2. Trilobite Master
        Trilobite Master 25 February 2021 20: 49
        +3
        Good evening, Vera.
        Quote: Astra wild2
        This is strange to say the least.

        It's strange to go to visit on weekdays. smile
        And to climb sites with guests - it depends on which sites and which guests. It is quite possible to construct a situation where it is not at all strange. smile
        For example, are Instagram or VK considered sites? laughing
        1. Astra wild2
          Astra wild2 25 February 2021 21: 21
          +3
          I'm not there.
  • Ivan Hangoverov
    Ivan Hangoverov 25 February 2021 11: 55
    0
    The picture is fake. The duel between Barr and Hamilton looked different. Were dressed in cocked hats, used dueling pistols, not pocket ones - Barr hit Hamilton in the liver, not in the head.
    Apparently a picture of another country or another time.
    Peter the Great forbade many other things. For example, corruption.
  • Dimide
    Dimide 25 February 2021 16: 20
    0
    Illustrations of dueling pistols "bombing"
    No wonder they say, "deadly beauty".
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 25 February 2021 16: 22
    +2
    Good afternoon, colleagues. Only today I saw the material. Yesterday, the guests were not up to the site
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 25 February 2021 19: 53
    +1
    Good evening. Vyacheslav Olegovich, you write: "then hang them to death by the legs" I read that although Peter issued such a decree, no one was punished. And in the same place there was such an aphorism "the severity of Russian laws is redeemed not by the obligatory execution of them" who is the author of this aphorism, I do not know
    1. kalibr
      26 February 2021 15: 01
      +1
      Quote: Astra wild2
      the severity of Russian laws is redeemed not by the obligation to comply

      Exactly! This is the root of our troubles.
  • Michael
    Michael 25 February 2021 22: 31
    +1
    Pistols and swords, dueling codes are a method of murder, planned and legal. Poison pills, 50-50, the only way to duel honestly.
    1. Ua3qhp
      Ua3qhp 27 February 2021 16: 07
      0
      Under Ivan Vasilievich this was legalized.
      Translation into modern Russian:
  • Igor Belovol
    Igor Belovol 2 March 2021 01: 13
    0
    Normal, only: "The latter were round, lead, had a diameter of 12-15 mm and a weight of 10-12 g."
  • Gookuni yeddey
    Gookuni yeddey 2 March 2021 14: 17
    0
    Excellent article!
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 4 March 2021 09: 21
    0
    And learning how to shoot accurately was easier than skillfully fencing with swords.
    Well, yes) But the ability to shoot has nothing to do with European duels, of course. The dueling pistol is a way to reduce your risk. There was no need to talk about any accuracy when shooting from these monsters, the bullet flew anywhere in the direction of the target, there was no talk of aiming. The Russian nobility regulated the severity of the situation by the distance from which the shooting was carried out. If the duel was serious, then they shot almost point-blank ...
    In the second part of the article, I hope, there will be a piece about French duels, which have already degenerated into an anecdote. The "Brothel for Russians", Paris, gave such a concert that it was simply impossible not to laugh. The caliber of pistols decreased so much, and the distances increased so much that some especially active "aristocrats" (after Napoleon it became possible to get the aristocratic title to anyone for relatively modest money. " in a day.
    But in the USA, all of a sudden, everything was very serious. People took with them a revolver (while they were not there - a hunting rifle and a knife), a handful of cartridges each, and went into the forest. Then everything was formalized as a "hunting accident". The two of us practically did not leave the woods. Unlike the European anecdote, the Americans did not joke with life and honor at that time.
  • the47th
    the47th 25 March 2021 16: 15
    0
    Eh, it was not necessary to threaten with the death penalty, but to deprive of the title and merit (along with the property owed by the title). Then the duels would not have been close.
  • froger
    froger 30 March 2021 11: 12
    0
    Nothing is said (although it is mentioned in the captions under the photographs) about the revolution in the arms business. I mean the transition from a capricious, complex and unreliable flintlock to a capsule lock. The fact is that at the beginning of the 19th century, explosive mercury was discovered - a substance that detonated from a strong impact on it. This has been used in capsule locks. Now an open fire was not needed to ignite the gunpowder on the shelf of the bolt, which was provided by striking the flint on the chair. The explosive mercury was packed in a paper moisture-proof bag and installed in a special place, closed from moisture and rain - under the trigger, which now looked like a hammer. This invention led to the emergence of new - capsule - pistols. A large number of available pistols with flint locks were converted into pistols with capsule locks, since the alteration was simple - it was only necessary to change the trigger with the flint for a trigger with a hammer, and install an anvil connected to the seed hole under it. The lock has become much simpler. There was no need to think about the reliability of the flint clamping in the trigger, there was no need to replace the flints in a timely manner, there was no need to think about preventing the powder from damping on the shelf. The misfires have practically stopped.
    The next revolutionary step in the development of small arms was the transition to breech-loading weapons with the appearance in the middle of the 19th century of a unitary cartridge that combined a bullet, a propelling powder charge and a primer that ignited from impact in one case.
    And one more remark. In the West, human life has always been valued higher than in the East. The German dueling regulations defined a standard dueling distance of 35 meters. By the way, it was in such a duel that the founder of the organization of the labor movement in Europe, Ferdinand Lassalle, died.