Putin spoke about protests in Russia

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The protests in support of Alexei Navalny took place amid the irritation of Russians caused by quarantine measures against the pandemic. And the reason for the participation of many of them in mass actions has nothing to do with this opposition politician.

So Putin spoke at a video conference with representatives of the leadership of various Russian media about the protests in Russia that took place in late January and early February this year. Fragments of this conversation were shown on the air of the TV channel "Russia 24".



The person involved in this is used right now, precisely when in all countries of the world, including ours, people get tired, accumulated irritation arises, discontent arises, including in relation to the conditions in which they live, the level of income.

- said the President, referring to Alexei Navalny.

Putin believes that people are unhappy with the deterioration of their living standards in the context of the economic crisis caused by the pandemic and blame the leadership for their troubles. In his opinion, this always happens when the population begins to live worse than before.

This is the share of the bosses. There is nothing you can do about it.

- he said.

In addition to the Russian press, a well-known American entrepreneur Elon Musk expressed a desire to talk with the President of the Russian Federation, about which he wrote on his Twitter page. He offered to talk with Putin through the Clubhouse social network, which works in audio format, where communication is on the air.

In Mask's post, one of the phrases was in Russian. It says that a conversation with the Russian president would be a great honor for an entrepreneur.

The Kremlin has not yet responded to this proposal.
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  1. +6
    14 February 2021 13: 39
    The person involved in this is used right now, precisely when in all countries of the world, including ours, people get tired, accumulated irritation arises, discontent arises, including in relation to the conditions in which they live, the level of income.
    So what's wrong here?
    Bulk for Putin is a pot-bellied trifle!

    But for the fate of Russia, he is just an attack marker in the information war with us.
    He is the enemy fire spotter in our rear.
    Feedback on checking the effectiveness of strikes.
    And the spotters are subject (according to the laws of wartime) to DESTRUCTION!
    1. +7
      14 February 2021 13: 41
      Quote: Victor_B
      Bulk for Putin is a pot-bellied trifle!

      And not only Navalny .. people also do not see .. chalky .. ugly ..
      1. +20
        14 February 2021 13: 49
        The guard is tired ...
        Solovyov will not be full.
        There was nothing positive about Putin's New Year greetings.
        There is no money, but you are holding on.
        How long to hold on? What to hold on to? And then what?
        Next question.
        1. +19
          14 February 2021 13: 53
          What to hold on to?

          It is known why .. The authorities show nothing else to us ..
          1. -1
            14 February 2021 14: 15
            In his opinion, this always happens when the population begins to live worse than before.
            belay
            Still, fat is not. Since 1961 the state only ripped off the population. The so-called gangster Pavlovsk reform is especially well remembered.
            1. +18
              14 February 2021 14: 44
              The protests in support of Alexei Navalny took place amid the irritation of Russians caused by quarantine measures against the pandemic. And the reason for the participation of many of them in mass actions has nothing to do with this opposition politician.


              This is how Putin spoke at a video conference

              Yes, everyone has gotten this Putin. He already declares this himself!

              This is the share of the bosses. Here already it's nothing you can do.

              - he said.

              How is that nothing? Go away. Make room for another!
              1. -6
                14 February 2021 18: 25
                Quote: Stas157
                Yes, everyone has gotten this Putin.
                Wait, he has just begun, but whoever needs it will get everyone, do not hesitate.
              2. -6
                15 February 2021 08: 07
                Quote: Stas157
                Go away. Make room for another!

                They forgot to ask you when and to whom to "leave" ... Thank God, it is not you who decide ...
                1. +6
                  15 February 2021 11: 45
                  They forgot to ask you when and to whom to "leave" ... Thank God, it is not you who decide ...

                  According to the RF Constitution, it is the people who, through fair democratic elections, decide who to "come" and who to "leave" from the post of President of the Russian Federation.
                  And if you don’t like something, I’m ready to help you financially with sending to North Korea or Turkmenistan at your discretion.
                  1. -3
                    15 February 2021 19: 46
                    Quote: Bshkaus
                    According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, it is the people who, through fair democratic elections, decide who to "come" and who "to leave"

                    So, the people decided this through elections in 2018. The next ones will be in 2024. Until that time, no "go away" is allowed. "According to the Constitution," of course ... Again, it will be the people who decide, not individual neurostenics. Vladimir Vladimirovich agrees to run for president, the people will elect him again .. Somewhere like that ...
                    1. -2
                      16 February 2021 09: 13
                      Judging by the number of minuses, a gang of mode destroyers is raging again.
                      The question, of course, is not for these skakuas, which have always been, but for the VO administration.
                      1. -1
                        16 February 2021 12: 21
                        The administration will have to think about the following: for the first time, Putin considered it necessary to communicate online with the editors of the largest media outlets. And politely told them about patriotism. Excerpts from this conversation were shown on TV, and there is also YouTube. Will the media accept the President's edification or will they wait for the next, perhaps more transparent hints?
              3. +1
                16 February 2021 12: 48
                The main thing is not to free the place for Navalny))
            2. +14
              14 February 2021 15: 56
              took place against the backdrop of the irritation of Russians caused by quarantine measures against the pandemic ...

              There are 20 million poor / destitute in the country, corruption, only according to official data, annually inappropriate use of budget funds according to the data of the Accounts Chamber is 800 billion rubles. The export of capital from the country breaks records every year. De-dollarization, de-offshorization? No, you haven't heard ...
              1. +15
                14 February 2021 16: 03
                Quote: dorz
                There are 20 million poor / poor in the country

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                Excess mortality, about half a million a year. This is already comparable to a hot war.
                1. -9
                  15 February 2021 08: 34
                  Quote: Altona
                  This is already comparable to a hot war.

                  Here I agree with you: an economic and information war is being waged against Russia, but you don't need to panic, however, we'll figure it out ... Have already passed ...
              2. -16
                15 February 2021 08: 16
                Quote: dorz
                20 million poor / poor,

                What do you say....?!!! "Horror", right .... Really, as in the USA, they live under bridges and in cardboard boxes ?!
                Imagine walking around 20 million Moscow, there is nothing anywhere, but all around are cardboard boxes and there are "beggars" in them with an outstretched hand: - ".... give it to a former deputy of the State Duma ..." ..., heh -he ....
                1. -7
                  15 February 2021 11: 10
                  Yes and in the yards which cars are parked and not one per family but 3 for a parking space a natural mahach has probably already forgotten what a Zaporozhets looks like laughing and they all suck, they would have lived in the DPR for 10 thousand, and in the DPR there are already some Mercy and BMW for 4 auto transporters a day comes in the morning near work there is nowhere to put the car laughing shitty they live ugh shameful.
                2. -2
                  15 February 2021 20: 01
                  You see, they didn’t "like" them, and they threw in the minuses, hehe ...
                  Well, go, "shine in the sky" with flashlights ... you were ordered from abroad ..., so work it off ...
                3. 0
                  16 February 2021 12: 50
                  Is there no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road?
            3. +14
              14 February 2021 17: 10
              Quote: frruc
              The so-called gangster Pavlovsk reform is especially well remembered.

              But pay attention - even then, in a much worse situation, the state did not dare even on soft options for the pension reform
              1. 0
                16 February 2021 12: 25
                Yes, but now everything is decided by the world community. According to the established generally accepted standards of which we live. And by the way, the authorities do not hide this. On the contrary, he explains that in many countries people retire in 65
                1. +1
                  16 February 2021 17: 29
                  Quote: WertGan
                  and now everything was decided by the world community.

                  Could you give a link to the relevant normative act of this "World Community", to which we are obliged to obey.
          2. +14
            14 February 2021 15: 12
            Here we are holding on to him.
            And everyone scares us and scares us, and they tighten the screws. So you can tear off the thread from the bolt.
            And Obeschalkin even stopped promising. Apparently tired too.
            1. -9
              15 February 2021 00: 45
              Scald the nut on the bolt to be sure.
          3. 0
            15 February 2021 15: 11
            Really behind the ear?
        2. -13
          14 February 2021 14: 01
          Quote: Bearded

          There is no money, but you are holding on.
          How long to hold on? What to hold on to?

          And as much as you can ... But if you cannot, so be it ...
          There is nothing you can do about it.
          1. +24
            14 February 2021 14: 46
            Ilya Muromets lay on the stove for 33 years, got up, turned on the TV, and there again ... Putin.

            In a modern fairy tale, the opposite is true: naked people applaud the king in a suit from Brioni.

            - How is Santa Claus different from Putin?
            - Santa Claus fulfills promises more often ...

            - The next time you laugh at people who believe in magic and sorcerers, remember that there are people who believe in Putin.
            1. +7
              14 February 2021 15: 29
              In our unstable time DO NOT BELIEVE ANYONE., not to Putin, not to Navalny. You need to rely only on yourself, no one will bring you prosperity on a saucer, lying on the stove is irrelevant.
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                      7. +1
                        15 February 2021 10: 21
                        I drew diplomas in bundles. The price was 300 rubles, it was in the USSR. The girl wrote and I drew. There is nothing to be proud of here. And I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. Sidekick? You remind me of criminals from the gateway. If anything...
                      8. 0
                        15 February 2021 10: 22
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        Sidekick? You remind me of criminals from the gateway. If anything...

                        This sidekick now wears the epaulettes of a police colonel. So that.
                      9. +1
                        15 February 2021 10: 43
                        So what? Does your buddy wear epaulettes? So what good comes of it? Colonel from the gate? I can't understand you, I'm sorry.
                      10. -1
                        15 February 2021 10: 48
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        So what good comes of this? Colonel from the gate? I cannot understand you, forgive me.

                        What's not clear? Now we are led by the colonels from the gateway. By the way, as someone looking around the city called to change the plugs, there was much more politeness on his part than from the prosecutor's office, with whom I made a UAZ tablet.
                      11. +1
                        15 February 2021 10: 55
                        I just can't understand you. Why do you need all this? The Seer ... it's all from the 90s. I'm not stuck in this, and thank goodness. But you are bogged down on the campaign. Drop it all.
                      12. 0
                        15 February 2021 11: 00
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        The Seer ... it's all from the 90s. I'm not stuck in this, and thank goodness. But you are bogged down on the campaign.

                        And they still exist, if you don't know. What can you not understand? That 4 enterprises destroyed, where did I work? That the Chinese do not hire those over forty? What is not clear to you?
                      13. 0
                        15 February 2021 11: 10
                        I know what it is. But not as harsh as you wrote. And if you did not pay what you promised them ... They will not leave you alone and this is their right. Did you borrow? Yes? Not? I think yes. but why are you telling me fairy tales? Businesses are talking about? Yes, you shit at the enterprises - the main thing for you is to pay back
                      14. -1
                        15 February 2021 12: 57
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        Businesses are talking about? yes you shit at the enterprises

                        You guessed it, dear. Shit at an enterprise where I was paid so much that for some vacation pay I could hit the road to Paris? Despite the fact that I was not some kind of pet,
                        they didn't give me milk for three months, they looked closely. My company was destroyed under Putin
                      15. 0
                        15 February 2021 13: 00
                        A simple question, like three rubles - did you borrow?
                      16. -1
                        16 February 2021 04: 53
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        A simple question, like three rubles - did you borrow?

                        Never borrowed from anyone. Maybe for a bottle.
                      17. 0
                        15 February 2021 15: 15
                        Thanks to you, these ignoramuses made their way.
        5. +4
          15 February 2021 08: 01
          There is also a lot of money, but not about our (country) honor. The central bank has published a new report on the management of assets in foreign currency and gold. Almost the lion's share of all currency that is bought up according to the so-called budgetary rule is exported abroad. Three quarters of all purchased currency is located outside of Russia and only 22% is invested in physical gold. The Central Bank lent more than $ 218 billion of Russian money to foreign states. This amount was used to purchase their debt securities. Almost $ 139 billion was placed on deposits with foreign banks. The money works for the countries that have imposed sanctions against us. Almost 46 billion were invested in foreign private companies. At the same time, the head of the IMF mission in Russia is very happy and said ".... It would hardly make sense to invest them in the domestic economy (of Russia). It is necessary to save these funds by investing in foreign assets." So the phrase "no money, you hold on" is outdated and does not correspond to reality. There is money in Russia and it works abroad.
      2. +7
        14 February 2021 15: 48
        Quote: Svarog
        And not only Navalny ..

        -------------------------
        He began to contradict himself. Either "these are Western hirelings, rocking the yacht of stability," then it turns out that "the deterioration of the economic situation" is to blame. The "foreign agent" is not already rolling, otherwise half of the country must be written down there. laughing laughing
      3. +18
        14 February 2021 19: 34
        “It is necessary to introduce personal sanctions against the Russian elite in connection with the situation around opposition leader Alexei Navalny,” said the head of the Free Democratic Party Christian Lindner, DW reports.

        He is sure that it is necessary "to put more painful pressure on the elite close to the leader of Russia, Vladimir Putin." “It is impossible that those responsible for Navalny's imprisonment spend vacations in their villas on the Cote d'Azur, and their children attended private schools in Europe,” added Lindner. “And the German is a smart man!
        1. +1
          15 February 2021 12: 12
          Vaughn Solovyov, as the house in Spain was excited, is covered.
      4. 0
        15 February 2021 12: 44
        And how exactly this manifested itself, can you explain?
    2. -3
      14 February 2021 13: 57
      Right! Navalny is a petty Judas, but also a very stupid Judas ... It's surprising that they impose an idiot on us, apparently counting as idiots !? Just because of the understanding of this fact, I would disdain to support this clown!
      1. SSR
        -3
        14 February 2021 15: 51
        Quote: Finches
        Right! Navalny is a petty Judas, but also a very stupid Judas ... It's amazing that they impose an idiot on us

        This is just not surprising. In which country did it get better after the "color revolution"?
        We, too, are forced to choose the lesser of two evils.
        Bulk curators choose and hit the weakest spots, and this is precisely the reason for the fact that Bulk called on youngsters and young people, taking advantage of the fact that they were born under Putin and live under Putin.
        Imha.
        There is a selection of a successor and a team, Mishustin was nominated.
      2. +8
        14 February 2021 18: 04
        Mr. Zyablitsev!
        The degree of stupidity can always be measured.
        Today it is clear that of all the possible options, the Kremlin has chosen the stupidest one - arrested Navalny.
        And there is reason to believe that this is by no means the smartest decision of the Kremlin will hurt all over Russia in the future.
        1. -4
          14 February 2021 18: 57
          Quote: Cosm22
          The degree of stupidity can always be measured.
          On a scale from stupid oversight to cosmic stupidity:
          Quote: Cosm22
          Today it is clear that of all the possible options, the Kremlin has chosen the stupidest one - arrested Navalny.
          Bravo! You show the best result: you entered low orbit on the fly.
          Quote: Cosm22
          And there is reason to believe that this is by no means the smartest decision of the Kremlin will hurt all over Russia in the future.
          The connection with the "Cosm22" device has been lost. Come back, you won this competition.
          1. +11
            14 February 2021 20: 57
            I am glad that, even in this context, I invite all adherents of the Roscosmos sect to the study of space terminology. This is good. Perhaps, after a while, something will become clear to them. As you study the subject.
            1. -4
              14 February 2021 21: 15
              Quote: Cosm22
              I introduce all adherents of the Roskosmos sect to the study of space terminology
              Where are we in Space and without you, teacher! And in political science you are just a Guru: I will make a summary of your quotes, only you do not take offense at me.
              1. +10
                14 February 2021 23: 07
                Yes, the fact of the matter is that nowhere. This is what I repeat in every comment. For there is a dead end ahead. Well, okay, this is already a flood, not related to the topic of the article.
                And why not? True, I clearly do not reach the scale of Vladimir Vladimirovich, from whose promises it is possible to make a collection of much larger size. But still flattered.
                1. -4
                  14 February 2021 23: 12
                  Quote: Cosm22
                  For there is a dead end ahead. Well, okay, this is already a flood, not related to the topic of the article. And why not?
                  Wait, I'm confused: a dead end is a flood, and a quotation book, therefore, already refers to the topic ... This also needs to be written down, otherwise I will forget.
        2. -11
          14 February 2021 19: 38
          And what did he need - to issue coupons for enhanced nutrition? laughing
          1. +5
            14 February 2021 21: 12
            It was necessary not to tease the geese inside the country.
            It was necessary not to give another reason for a tough confrontation with the West and for the introduction of new sanctions.
            It was necessary to remember that the project of the century - an ingenious multi-move - SP-2 was already hanging by a thread.
            It was necessary not to forget that a judicious and calculating government always tries to calculate the situation, and not aggravate it. He tries to neutralize all possible risks. There were at least three options for action. After which about Navalny would be talked about an order of magnitude less in the country and abroad. But the Kremlin chose the most extreme one.
            The owner is a master, of course. But now everyone will have to take the rap.
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              1. +13
                14 February 2021 22: 52
                If the Russian state acts within the framework of the law, this can only be welcomed.
                But here you personally, judging by the words about the PM patron, are clearly at odds with him, with this very legislation.
                Mr. Zyablitsev, are you aware that there is Article 280 in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation? Which provides a decent time frame for such statements like yours, including on the Internet?
                1. -8
                  15 February 2021 07: 07
                  I gave an example of the cost of a cartridge and I don't see any incitement here, but on my fingers I explain to you that the state is acting correctly, strictly in relation to Navalny, within the framework of Russian legislation ... here Navalny and his adherents constantly declare the overthrow of the government, inciting under this case not reasonable youth, and even, most likely, with the money of Western special services, but this is definitely a criminal article, Treason of the Motherland!
              2. +2
                15 February 2021 02: 52
                Quote: Finches
                Unfortunately, not the most extreme one, it was possible to solve Navalny's problem more easily and reliably ... For example, the prime cost of a PM cartridge is about 45 rubles! And how much public money he saves! Millions!

                Dear moderators! And for a direct call to murder, isn't it necessary to give a pendel with VO? Although I am not a supporter of Navalny, because of his views on foreign policy, I do not welcome direct calls for murder. If you do not drive such people out of the site, then how will you soon be different from "Peacemaker"? But here is not the only one offering a short reprisal.
                1. -7
                  15 February 2021 07: 08
                  Do not distort, no one writes about any kind of violence, read carefully and think hi
                2. +4
                  15 February 2021 07: 41
                  Our moderators, by virtue of their education, do not distinguish between the concepts of "schoolgirl" and "about .... ka" (lady of the most ancient profession. Already checked. Once, for a "schoolgirl" - they banned me. And YOU are trying to explain something to them ..) Do not disgrace ... For their level, your words are space.
        3. -5
          15 February 2021 01: 20
          Quote: Cosm22
          Today it is clear that of all the possible options, the Kremlin has chosen the stupidest one - arrested Navalny.

          It was necessary to lean him right at the airport against the nearest wall.
    3. nnm
      +15
      14 February 2021 14: 04
      Navalny should have been in prison for a long time, I've been talking about this for years, but you are missing one point in your analogy about the rear. While in the rear they are rewarding 23-year-old children of their friends "for services to the Fatherland", while in the rear they are not led by people like Khrulev, and those whose assets, future, families are not aimed at life in Russia, until then, it is necessary to first of all look for not an external spotter, but internal enemies.
    4. +32
      14 February 2021 14: 06
      he's just an attack marker in the information war with us

      It remains to understand who is really at war with us .. Damned West, or our own leaders? As for me, they harm by orders of magnitude more than from all the intrigues of the zakordonniki ..
      1. +16
        14 February 2021 14: 10
        Quote: paul3390
        he's just an attack marker in the information war with us

        It remains to understand who is really at war with us .. Damned West, or our own leaders? As for me, they harm by orders of magnitude more than from all the intrigues of the zakordonniki ..

        Everything is simple here .. the west is trying to rob our top, and our top is successfully robbing its people .. while our top is trying to convince us that it is not they who are robbing us .. but the west .. this is such a multi-move.
      2. -6
        14 February 2021 14: 13
        Your own head is at war with you, or rather that. what is missing from it.
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    5. +7
      14 February 2021 14: 08
      He is the enemy fire spotter in our rear.


      Whoa! A stink bomb, that's the most for Navalny's mission. Thrown into the crowd for the sake of the crush and noise.
      1. -4
        14 February 2021 19: 04
        Quote: dauria
        Stink bomb
        They piled a whole pile on a shovel and threw it on the fan. Sad and it's a joy.
    6. -5
      14 February 2021 14: 35
      Quote: Victor_B
      But for the fate of Russia, he is just an attack marker in the information war with us.
      He is the enemy fire spotter in our rear.
      Feedback on checking the effectiveness of strikes.
      And the spotters are subject (according to the laws of wartime) to DESTRUCTION!

      Absolutely. Through this sect of grant-eaters, they are trying to sell other people's values ​​to us, to undermine the system of our moral principles. Why is our media so shy? Or here's another: The Look logically sets out what they are embarrassed to say in the media and on talk shows:
      Petr Akopov, columnist for RIA Novosti
      11 "Three founders of the" Navalny project "
      February 2021
    7. +7
      14 February 2021 17: 04
      Quote: Victor_B
      Bulk for Putin is a pot-bellied trifle!

      Don't tell me. Judging by the diligent avoidance of naming the name, this is just some kind of Woland de Mort.
      1. -2
        14 February 2021 19: 09
        Quote: syndicalist
        Judging by the diligent avoidance of naming the name, this is just Woland de Mort.
        Did you want to promote yourself on the ball, Soros has little money?
    8. +12
      14 February 2021 20: 21
      Yes, but Putin himself has gone overboard with his zeroing and zeroing of his accomplices - effective managers. It is necessary to change this dictator, entrenched in the Kremlin with his own Politburo. Insolent to the root. What did he say recently? Don't look that the ruble has fallen, the main thing is that it is predictable ... What ah? Only there is no one to change it to exclusively by legal means. This zeroed out all normal competitors soaked without any poison. And Navalny is beneficial to Putin. He, with his worthless, greasy figure, distracts part of the protest population on himself.
    9. 0
      15 February 2021 21: 27
      And in Israel this speech was translated that these demenstruation began from hunger and poverty.
    10. -1
      16 February 2021 12: 17
      Enemy spotter for medveput, rotenberg and other sechin
  2. +3
    14 February 2021 13: 39
    This is the share of the bosses. There is nothing you can do about it.

    This is it about locks with aquadiskoteka .. Yes .. an unenviable share ..
    1. -8
      14 February 2021 13: 47
      Quote: Svarog
      This is it about locks with aquadiskoteka .. Yes .. an unenviable share ..

      Unenviable is the proportion of those who believe in all sorts of bullshit, if only it scratches their pride.
      1. +4
        14 February 2021 13: 51
        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        Quote: Svarog
        This is it about locks with aquadiskoteka .. Yes .. an unenviable share ..

        Unenviable is the proportion of those who believe in all sorts of bullshit, if only it scratches their pride.

        Does bullshit scratch pride? What is it like? wassat And Rotenberg says not bullshit .. and he is all right with pride .. or no?
        1. -7
          14 February 2021 13: 55
          Quote: Svarog
          Does bullshit scratch pride? What is it like?

          You believe that that notorious castle belongs to Putin, directly or indirectly, and you do not need any proof of this, because it is very pleasant for you to think so, since it completely coincides with your personal reality.
          And on the contrary, no arguments against, even the most iron-concrete ones, will dissuade you from the fact that this notorious castle belongs to Putin directly or indirectly.
          And so not only with this castle, but with everything in general. You only believe what fits into your attitude, and what contradicts it you reject under various pretexts.
          Everything that you like is true, and everything that is not is a lie.
          1. +5
            14 February 2021 13: 57
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Here you believe

            I only believe the facts. Rothenberg said that the castle is his ... or is it not? Do you dispute the words of Rotenberg? And what Putin, what Rotenberg is the same for me ..
            1. -2
              14 February 2021 14: 06
              Quote: Svarog
              I only believe the facts. Rothenberg said that the castle is his ... or is it not?

              Castle in Gelendzhik? The owner has a shitty taste, whoever it is. There are so many more beautiful places in Russia where you can build a castle or a palace.
              1. +10
                14 February 2021 14: 10
                For me, it's better without any taste at all - not to build.
                Well, do not steal at the same time.
                But this is an impossible dream with the current criminal clique.
              2. -1
                14 February 2021 14: 11
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Quote: Svarog
                I only believe the facts. Rothenberg said that the castle is his ... or is it not?

                Castle in Gelendzhik? The owner has a shitty taste, whoever it is. There are so many more beautiful places in Russia where you can build a castle or a palace.

                Yes, he is not far away .. they have chosen many beautiful places .. just for some reason it was in Gelendzhik that Navalny liked ..
                1. +6
                  14 February 2021 14: 48
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Yes, he is not far away .. they have chosen many beautiful places .. just for some reason it was in Gelendzhik that Navalny liked ..

                  Probably because the cement dust from the cements of Novorossiysk plants is constantly hanging in the air.
              3. +18
                14 February 2021 14: 49
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Castle in Gelendzhik? The owner has a shitty taste, whoever it is. There are so many more beautiful places in Russia where you can build a castle or a palace.

                Kolyma is a good place. Even the president’s salary cannot build such a mansion. And the fact that the authorities were sympathetically silent for a week, and then gave birth to a version with the Hero of Russia Vrotenberg ..? This is so, the president’s friend is the richest kid in the area.
                And I will tell you this, when the connection between the people and the authorities ceases, then there is only one option left - an armed uprising. This is spelled out in all textbooks, political science, Marxism-Leninism, common sense, finally ..! A ghost wanders across Russia, the ghost of the Revolution
                1. -8
                  14 February 2021 20: 18
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  The ghost is haunting Russia, the ghost of the Revolution
                  If you stop using all kinds of toadstools with fly agarics, then the ghost will not come to you again.
            2. nnm
              +3
              14 February 2021 14: 08
              And don't tell me, colleague! When will the epoch of our servile principle of a good king and bad boyars end?
              1. +5
                14 February 2021 14: 54
                Quote: nnm
                When will the epoch of our servile principle of a good king and bad boyars end?

                Yes, this dream of a "good tsar" comes from the tale of "Ivanushka the Fool".
                1. nnm
                  +7
                  14 February 2021 15: 24
                  Great answer, colleague!))) 5 points.
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              1. +8
                14 February 2021 14: 21
                And how many years has the economy been falling?
                And the rise is not due to thieves, but to oil prices.
                1. +6
                  14 February 2021 14: 34
                  The economy must be efficient and competitive. Where do our investors invest their capital? to supermarkets ........, almost the entire trading network is under foreigners and you go there to buy imports. And in order to boost the economy, do you propose a "big race" with the Red Guards?
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                2. -7
                  14 February 2021 15: 10
                  Ahaha, you can at least twist and rave at the navel, but we are building factories on the sly, missiles are flying, planes are developing, in spite of the widespread containment of RUSSIA.
              2. +12
                14 February 2021 15: 06
                Uh-huh .. If the oil price tag is under 140, it will show at least some achievements .. And what he is capable of at a price of 30 - we clearly see ..
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              4. +9
                14 February 2021 18: 29
                Quote: old man
                started to raise the economy

                Where does he pick it up? The peak of the fall and collapse of production is precisely his rule.
                1. -10
                  14 February 2021 20: 29
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  Quote: old man
                  started to raise the economy

                  Where does he pick it up? The peak of the fall and collapse of production is precisely his rule.

                  If you were born in 2000, then this is the case for you. I was born before the 90s and my memory is still with me :)
                  1. +7
                    15 February 2021 03: 49
                    Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
                    Quote: lis-ik
                    Quote: old man
                    started to raise the economy

                    Where does he pick it up? The peak of the fall and collapse of production is precisely his rule.

                    If you were born in 2000, then this is the case for you. I was born before the 90s and my memory is still with me :)

                    I was born much earlier than the 90s and I have something to compare with. Even under Yeltsin, there was much more real production (factories). Under Putin, his friends shit in their own pockets, selling the entire oil fleet for the sake of momentary profit, and now they are renting and have lost a lot of sales markets.
                    1. -6
                      15 February 2021 04: 44
                      Quote: lis-ik
                      Even under Yeltsin, real production (factories) was many times more

                      What is the conclusion? Under Yeltsin, life was better or what? Well, you give. The country was sliding into the abyss at that time.
                      1. +3
                        15 February 2021 08: 51
                        Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
                        What is the conclusion? Under Yeltsin, life was better or what?

                        Well, let's say it's better for me. Our factory built a house, and all finances were thrown into the salary.
                      2. +1
                        15 February 2021 10: 45
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
                        What is the conclusion? Under Yeltsin, life was better or what?

                        Well, let's say it's better for me. Our factory built a house, and all finances were thrown into the salary.

                        Lucky you in the "Saints of the 90s".
                      3. +2
                        15 February 2021 10: 55
                        Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
                        Lucky you in the "Saints of the 90s".

                        This "luck" was based on the basis of the USSR. In that house, my baht was given a hut of more than 80 squares for four, they moved from a one-room apartment, so everything was ready. The bathtub is pink, the toilet is the same, the gas stove is backlit ... Koshak picked it up on the street, he ripped off all the foam, you bastard.
              5. +6
                15 February 2021 08: 49
                Quote: old man
                began to raise the economy and production,

                What did he start picking up?
            4. -3
              14 February 2021 15: 42
              Quote: Svarog
              And what is Putin, what Rotenberg is the same for me ..

              It's like saying that Rotenberg is the president of the Russian Federation for you. Very close, anyway.
            5. +1
              14 February 2021 16: 21
              you better believe that in the Russian Federation people receive 20k with a higher education, that is, 2 times less than a pensioner in Estonia; and whose castle should not care
          2. -4
            14 February 2021 14: 15
            Here is a fellow Sidor Amenpodestovich! Sweep it right. But some do not understand this. And why should they ... Better to find fault with the president, and then another, and so on. It's easier to live this way and always look for those responsible for your failures.
          3. +12
            14 February 2021 15: 00
            reinforced concrete
            Remember one reinforced concrete said about the mac, and then bam and ask for understanding.
            By the way, without delving into it, I was still interested in why the president of Russia should not have such a dacha. And then out of nowhere Rothennberg. But even the children know their own there. I'm a billionaire, and you tell me what the realties are on time.
            1. -8
              14 February 2021 16: 09
              I agree. Why can't the "evil, insidious, great and terrible" Putin have a palace? All sorts of operetta mongrels-peretta have not one and over the hill, but Putin - like Stalin or what, in one greatcoat? It is not clear to me categorically - how a palace could become a catalyst for protests (or attempts)? Nonsense .... If, like Stalin, we are preparing to plow like Soviet people and be silent in a rag (I think - today's jerks - they cannot even imagine this in their nightmares). VVP is wrong about something else - you have to turn your face to the people, and back to the oligarchs ...
        2. -11
          14 February 2021 14: 26
          Quote: Svarog

          Does bullshit scratch pride? What is it like? And Rotenberg says not bullshit .. and he is all right with pride .. or no?

          So whose long-term construction? And what is the interiors drawn on a computer? And who believed in the muttering that the mold had devoured everything there, because all the interiors were stripped to concrete? Come on, nonsense ...
          And Rotenberg built the bridge, quickly, and it will stand for a hundred years ... But what did Navalny create in his entire worthless life?
          1. -1
            14 February 2021 15: 09
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            And what did Navalny create, in all his worthless life?
            M. Gorky "Born to Crawl - Can't Fly!"
          2. -1
            14 February 2021 15: 23
            Hitler also built a lot.
            1. +5
              14 February 2021 16: 00
              Quote: wkat
              Hitler also built a lot.

              The Third Reich built, he ditched it, taking it with him.
            2. -6
              14 February 2021 16: 47
              What did Hitler set up there? He used the industrial and raw material infrastructure, the manpower reserves of all of Europe. Say it isn't.
          3. +5
            14 February 2021 15: 48
            And Rotenberg built the bridge, quickly, and will stand for a hundred years
            Wrotenberg, by itself, did not build anything, people built, and he sawed the budget ........ how many times did the initial amount increase ??
            1. -5
              14 February 2021 16: 01
              Quote: 72jora72
              times the initial amount increased ??

              In what time? Again slogans?
        3. +24
          14 February 2021 14: 30
          Rothenberg is not alone, there are three of them. The youngest in three years of Plato's work became a billionaire. We started labeling goods. This is in such a difficult period. It seems that they are doing everything to drive the whole country into poverty. And the main ideologist of the marking and its main operator, Mr. Usmanov, lives quietly on the Cote d'Azur. And the whole country pays him 60 kopecks from each sale. From a beggar along the line to Usmanov, another billion.
          Against this background, Peskov's profound remarks about the poverty of people.
          And do not give a damn about Navalny, people are tired of this chaos, so they took to the streets.
          I can imagine what will start in the Khabarovsk Territory during the elections. There, the appointee of the center, Degtyarev, showed himself in all his glory. Since the end of December in the region, and throughout the Far East, there has been a shortage of fuel. Gasoline 92nd to 75 rubles, 95th to 85, 101 to 100 rubles. The queues for gas stations began to sell 1000 rubles.
          If, for some reason, Degtyarev wins the elections, it somehow becomes uncomfortable.
          1. +8
            14 February 2021 15: 21
            Quote: YOUR
            And the main ideologist of the marking and its main operator, Mr. Usmanov, lives quietly on the Cote d'Azur.
            By the way, if Usmanov moves to Monaco (there is one of the offices of the International Fencing Federation, of which he is president), he will not have to pay income tax. But if he has a residence permit in the UK, then 45% of the income will have to be unfastened to the royal treasury.
          2. -2
            14 February 2021 18: 45
            Since the end of December in the region, and throughout the Far East, there has been a shortage of fuel. Gasoline 92nd to 75 rubles, 95th to 85, 101 to 100 rubles. The queues for gas stations began to sell 1000 rubles.

            why are you lying
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            1. 0
              15 February 2021 04: 28
              All Rosneft gas stations. And not the fact that there is at gas stations

              https://lenta.ru/news/2021/02/04/azs/
      2. -7
        14 February 2021 19: 23
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        The share of those who believe in all sorts of bullshit is unenviable
        Their life will punish. And for those who disseminate this bullshit under the guise of undoubted truth, fulfilling all sorts of "grants" and "donations", it's time to smear their forehead with green stuff.
    2. +17
      14 February 2021 13: 49
      straight tear came ...
      poor fellows so "care" for the people, and for him, the ungrateful, everything "will not be enough" ...
      frankly, we were not lucky with the population ... little people do not appreciate "slave labor in galleys" ...
    3. +5
      14 February 2021 13: 53
      Quote: Svarog
      This is the share of the bosses. There is nothing you can do about it.

      This is it about locks with aquadiskoteka .. Yes .. an unenviable share ..

      Well, and the "storage of dirt", oh, that is, from the mudroom, that is, from the hallway.
      1. -10
        14 February 2021 14: 10
        Quote: Quadro
        Well, and a "repository of dirt"

        "Garbage box" is more suited to the idea of ​​the creator of the video than "mudroom".
        1. 0
          14 February 2021 17: 38
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Quadro
          Well, and a "repository of dirt"

          "Garbage box" is more suited to the idea of ​​the creator of the video than "mudroom".

          We don't know English, right? Garbage - trash, box - box, box. Is the trash can a sign of the palace?
          1. -5
            14 February 2021 20: 57
            Quote: Quadro
            We don't know English, right? Garbage - trash, box - box, box. Is the trash can a sign of the palace?

            This sign is the sign of the video creator.
    4. +4
      15 February 2021 07: 46
      Not. He's talking about an antique violin, a "friend") And you know, after all, it's hard for the guarantor. I got up in the morning and I have to think about everything. About violins, about friends-alligarhah. I don't have violins and alligarch friends. Everything is simple and sincere. Normal friends and good family. And it is "hard" for him.)))
  3. +14
    14 February 2021 13: 41
    The protests in support of Alexei Navalny took place amid the irritation of Russians caused by quarantine measures against the pandemic.

    And also against the background of rising prices, high levels of corruption, nepotism in power, pension reform, etc., etc. But the author is modestly silent about this ...
    1. 0
      14 February 2021 13: 43
      Quote: Hyperion
      The protests in support of Alexei Navalny took place amid the irritation of Russians caused by quarantine measures against the pandemic.

      And also against the background of rising prices, high levels of corruption, nepotism in power, etc., etc. But the author is modestly silent about this ...

      Yes, I would like to ask a question ... what did you do to prevent such a situation that you have been doing for 20 years?
      1. -2
        14 February 2021 13: 44
        A question for the author or me?
        1. 0
          14 February 2021 13: 45
          Quote: Hyperion
          A question for the author or me?

          To Putin, of course .. wink
          1. +6
            14 February 2021 14: 11
            Quote: Svarog
            To Putin, of course ..

            Such questions will not reach Putin. Specially trained moderators will not miss. Only hosannas and gratitude for the "happy life" and "tireless work" on the galleys ...
      2. -2
        14 February 2021 13: 47
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Hyperion
        The protests in support of Alexei Navalny took place amid the irritation of Russians caused by quarantine measures against the pandemic.

        And also against the background of rising prices, high levels of corruption, nepotism in power, etc., etc. But the author is modestly silent about this ...

        Yes, I would like to ask a question ... what did you do to prevent such a situation that you have been doing for 20 years?

        And they blamed the West, Navalny, weather conditions and other misfortunes that exclusively pursue Russia.
        1. +1
          14 February 2021 13: 50
          Quote: lis-ik
          and other misfortunes that exclusively pursue Russia.

          The ozone hole is to blame.
          1. 0
            14 February 2021 14: 12
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            The ozone hole is to blame.

            In the brains.
            1. +1
              14 February 2021 14: 16
              Quote: tihonmarine
              In the brains.

              What is it ?. I remember the end of the rhyme from Crocodile at the director of the state farm, why his tomatoes do not grow. It's a pity, I don't remember entirely:
              And the director know, nods,
              To the ozone hole ...
          2. +2
            14 February 2021 15: 22
            I remember, it was in the 90s, a lot of mischief was attributed to this mischievous hole at one time))))
            1. +2
              14 February 2021 15: 23
              Quote: evgen1221
              it was in the 90s, helluva lot of this mischievous hole was attributed to all the troubles at one time)

              No, it started in the late 80s.
        2. -1
          14 February 2021 14: 04
          Quote: lis-ik
          And they blamed the West, Navalny, weather conditions and other misfortunes that exclusively pursue Russia.
          1. +14
            14 February 2021 14: 41
            Quote: Hyperion
            Quote: lis-ik
            And they blamed the West, Navalny, weather conditions and other misfortunes that exclusively pursue Russia.

            Navalny was finally imprisoned. Now we'll live! True, it is necessary to decide something with the West. Can we cut off the gas for them? What other levers of pressure do we have? Import substitution works for us, doesn't it?
      3. -6
        14 February 2021 13: 49
        Quote: Svarog
        Yes, I would like to ask a question ... what did you do to prevent such a situation that you have been doing for 20 years?

        I would like to ask one more question.
        And name at least one country where there is no, or was not, corruption, nepotism in power, clerks?
        1. +5
          14 February 2021 13: 53
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          I would like to ask one more question.
          And name at least one country where there is no, or was not, corruption, nepotism in power, clerks?

          On such a scale, there is only in Africa .. and so everywhere where the standard of living is higher, nepotism, corruption is significantly lower ..
          1. -3
            14 February 2021 13: 58
            Quote: Svarog
            On such a scale, there is only in Africa .. and so everywhere where the standard of living is higher, nepotism, corruption is significantly lower ..

            Yes Yes. In the USSR, there was no prostitution or drug addiction either. And in the spring in Belarus - coronavirus. If not protrude, then it seems imperceptible.
            Remember the series "The Investigation is Lead by Knowledge". Either they steal in housing and communal services, or on the railroad.
            1. +13
              14 February 2021 14: 03
              Well, you give !! Do they steal? They quietly scam on small things .. And they steal - this is when tens of billions ... Like Putin's nukers ..
              1. -13
                14 February 2021 14: 13
                Quote: paul3390
                And they steal - this is when tens of billions ... Like Putin's nukers ..

                Well, where are these billions? They are looking for firemen, the police are looking for ... Nobody found anything, but some are firmly convinced that they are somewhere. Probably because these some, if they were in the place of those very nukers, would certainly not offend themselves.
                People tend to assign their personal qualities to everyone around them. A scoundrel sees scoundrels in everyone, a liar sees liars, a thief sees thieves, and so on.
                1. -1
                  14 February 2021 14: 47
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  People tend to assign their personal qualities to everyone around them. A scoundrel sees scoundrels in everyone, a liar sees liars, a thief sees thieves, and so on.

                  It's better not to say ...
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  The desire for hoarding is a property of the human psyche. The same as the desire for violence and lies, for example.

                  What happens? Strive for violence and lies, and assign these qualities to everyone around you?
                  1. -5
                    14 February 2021 14: 52
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    Strive for violence and lies, and assign these qualities to everyone around you?

                    No need to assign, it is. You never lied to anyone, did you use force? Didn't they commit meanness, didn't they steal?
                    All these features are inherent in every person. The question is to what extent a single person is able to overcome these base aspirations.
                    1. +1
                      14 February 2021 15: 05
                      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      No need to assign, it is.

                      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      All these features are inherent in every person.

                      Do you know each human? Have you personally interviewed everyone? All 7 billion?
                      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      You never lied to anyone, did you use force? Didn't they commit meanness, did they steal?

                      This is truly:
                      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      A scoundrel sees scoundrels in everyone, a liar sees liars, a thief sees thieves, and so on.
                      1. -6
                        14 February 2021 15: 11
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        Do you know every person? Have you personally interviewed everyone? All 7 billion?

                        Let me get to know you.
                        Tell me, have you never lied? Did you manipulate people? Have you ever looked at the young ladies with an oily look?
                        Are you not at all characteristic of meanness, self-interest, arrogance?
                      2. +2
                        14 February 2021 15: 21
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Tell me, have you never lied? Did you manipulate people? Have you ever looked at the young ladies with an oily look?
                        Are you not at all characteristic of meanness, self-interest, arrogance?

                        How you deftly jumped from "all" to me alone! I am not everything. You can't judge all of humanity by one person.
                      3. -4
                        14 February 2021 15: 35
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        How you deftly jumped from "all" to me alone! I am not everything. You can't judge all of humanity by one person.

                        What is characteristic of one person is, with a high degree of probability, characteristic of all people in principle, since people have the same needs. But they implement them in different ways, which is the basis of the differences.
                      4. +1
                        14 February 2021 15: 46
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        with high probability

                        How high?
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        people have the same needs

                        One need is to eat, drink, smoke. The other is to create a sculpture, painting or novel. Same needs, yeah ...
                      5. -2
                        14 February 2021 16: 15
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        One need is to eat, drink, smoke. The other is to create a sculpture, painting or novel. Same needs, yeah ...

                        And those who create a sculpture, a painting, a novel do not want to eat, drink, smoke at all?
                        It's just that some have one priority, others have another. It's all about balance.
                      6. +2
                        14 February 2021 16: 28
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        And those who create a sculpture, a painting, a novel do not want to eat, drink, smoke at all?

                        And those who eat, drink and smoke, apparently want to create a sculpture, painting or novel ... Yes, all hands are not busy with that ...
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        It's all about balance.

                        It's all or not the whole point, but our balance is extremely flawed. Some have palaces, while others have housing and utility debts for Khrushchevs. Moreover, the former establish a consumer basket for the latter, and they also teach the Motherland to love.
                      7. -5
                        14 February 2021 16: 51
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        It's all or not the whole point, but our balance is extremely flawed. Some have palaces, while others have housing and utility debts for Khrushchevs. Moreover, the former establish a consumer basket for the latter, and they also teach the Motherland to love.

                        But it has always been so! Some live in barracks, while others enjoy fishing in their country cottages.
                        Utopia exists only in literature.
                      8. +4
                        14 February 2021 17: 03
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        But it has always been so!

                        But what about progress? Evolution in consciousness? Striving for justice (which the Russian people seem to have in their blood)? You never know what "was"? Serfdom also took place. But he's gone. So maybe we can make some more progress on the path to "freedom, equality, brotherhood"?
                      9. 0
                        14 February 2021 19: 16
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        One need is to eat, drink, smoke. The other is to create a sculpture, painting or novel. Same needs, yeah ...

                        You know, for many creators, all of this exists in one sentence ...
                2. +13
                  14 February 2021 15: 10
                  That is, for example, the notorious palace - like Rotenberg built for a salary ?? Or is he poor in your opinion? But this is a maaaaaa little drop in a huge muddy stream of plundering the Motherland .. I'm just amazed at the ability of some individuals to force themselves to wear a pink pince-nez ..
                  1. -10
                    14 February 2021 15: 16
                    Quote: paul3390
                    That is, for example, the notorious palace - like Rotenberg built on a salary?

                    And what was the "Dalnaya Dacha" built on? Then the people lived much better, and the war was not looming on the horizon?
                    Why were there twenty such residences? Then it was possible, but now it is impossible?
                    1. +9
                      14 February 2021 15: 24
                      Forgive me - you are now in all seriousness trying to convince me and those around you that the top-like do not steal ???? belay No, really, is that what you mean? wassat
                      Yo-my, well, you need, what kind of perversions you will not find on this forum ... what
                      1. -4
                        14 February 2021 15: 36
                        Quote: paul3390
                        Forgive me - you are now in all seriousness trying to convince me and those around you that the top-like do not steal ????

                        I meant that the upper classes will always live at the expense of the lower classes, in any political system, and the lower classes will always be dissatisfied, again, in any political system.
                      2. +9
                        14 February 2021 15: 40
                        Well - of course I would argue about any system ... But even if so - everyone needs to know when to stop !!! And these shores have completely lost. Pyotr Alekseevich, according to legend, used to say to Menshikov, beating him in the face: "Steal from profit, cattle, from profit, not from losses"
                      3. -4
                        14 February 2021 15: 42
                        Quote: paul3390
                        Pyotr Alekseevich, according to legend, used to say to Menshikov, beating him in the face: "Steal from profit, cattle, from profit, not from losses"

                        But at the same time, he did not tell him: "Do not steal, you brute, do not steal!"
                      4. +7
                        14 February 2021 15: 46
                        He knew his subjects perfectly .. And the stump is clear - they will always steal, except under communism. But it’s one thing when, say, for 100 billion rubles, you built something that is extremely necessary for the country, and out of them five billion, and it’s quite another thing when you stupidly capitalized all a hundred square meters without making a damn. What is the most common option for us. You cannot get rid of theft under the bourgeoisie, but there must be at least some framework !! And even more so - when you steal from an already impoverished people .. They would steal from other bourgeoisie, especially the overseas ones .. laughing
                      5. +2
                        14 February 2021 15: 56
                        That is why I am completely and completely for meritocracy - the power of the worthy.
                        In the USSR, there was a wonderful mechanism, when really worthy people, leaders of production, outstanding scientists, writers, labor and intellectual elite became representatives of the people. People are strong-willed, disciplined, responsible. Who became leaders not because it promised all kinds of benefits, but out of a sense of duty. And naturally, they wanted everyone else to know, understand and accept the principle that one should live not for oneself, but for society.
                      6. +4
                        14 February 2021 16: 02
                        Ehe-he .. But who will let your worthy people into power? They themselves will not steal, and most importantly - they will not give it! And the first thing they will do is shoot the nonesh. For there is simply no other way. After all, capitalism is in the yard, and in it - the main measure of dignity is loot .. Moreover, it is acquired by dishonest means ..
                      7. -2
                        14 February 2021 16: 22
                        Quote: paul3390
                        But who will let your worthy people come into power?

                        And the authorities have never favored worthy ones. Because against their background the money-grubbers looked emphatically miserable.
                        Let me advise you on the article "In the shadow of tomorrow" by the Dutch cultural scientist Johan Huizinga.
                        Doubt reigns everywhere about the solidity of the social structure within which we live, an obscure fear of the immediate future, a sense of the decline of culture and the threat of death to humanity. These are not just nightmares that visit us at night, when the mind is inactive and the spark of life only flickers. These are sober expectations, weighed on the scales of observation and common sense. We are downright overwhelmed by events. We see with our own eyes how everything that seemed previously unshakable and sacred is shaking: truth and humanity, right and reason. We see how state institutions cease to function, production systems deteriorate. We see how the public forces continue to desperately idle. The rumbling machine of this frantic time of that and look will begin to slip.
            2. 0
              14 February 2021 15: 25
              mesir, and you mashtabami and influence on society (drug addiction and prostitution) is not an hour? Although it was, it was not so clearly arrogant.
              1. -5
                14 February 2021 15: 46
                Quote: evgen1221
                messire

                Join the Dark Side!
                and you mashtabami and influence on society (drug addiction and prostitution) is not an hour? Although it was, it was not so clearly arrogant.

                scale
                large scale
                They just didn't talk about it, but the problem was both then and now.
          2. 0
            14 February 2021 14: 24
            and so everywhere, where the standard of living is higher, ... and where it is ... just interesting
        2. +6
          14 February 2021 14: 00
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          I would like to ask one more question.
          And name at least one country where there is no, or was not, corruption, nepotism in power, clerks?

          The question is the amount of this very corruption. Less is better, right? And Russia in this regard is adjacent to Papua New Guinea. And I would like to be close to Scandinavia.
          1. -2
            14 February 2021 14: 15
            Quote: Hyperion
            The question is the amount of this very corruption. Less is better, right? And Russia in this regard is adjacent to Papua New Guinea. And I would like to be close to Scandinavia.

            And who makes all these ratings? According to them, the United States and the United Kingdom ranked first in terms of pandemic preparedness, as well as in freedom of speech.
            1. -1
              14 February 2021 14: 28
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              And who makes all these ratings?

              Oh well. Do you have data on corruption compiled by the same Rosstat or another Russian analytical agency? I would have looked.
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              According to them, the United States and the United Kingdom ranked first in terms of pandemic preparedness, as well as in freedom of speech.

              It is not a fact that the level of preparedness for a pandemic and the level of corruption were calculated by the same people.
              Or a fact? Confirm your words, dear?
              1. -1
                14 February 2021 14: 47
                Quote: Hyperion
                It is not a fact that the level of preparedness for a pandemic and the level of corruption were calculated by the same people.
                Or a fact?

                I meant something else. It is irrational to trust any ratings, it only makes sense to take these data into consideration.
                For example, according to VTsIOM, Putin is supported by about sixty percent of Russians.
                But you know for sure that this is not so, because all your acquaintances - 10-20 people with whom you regularly communicate - do not support Putin.
                And who, in your opinion, is closer to the truth, VTsIOM, or you and your friends?
                1. +1
                  14 February 2021 14: 55
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  all your friends - 10-20 people

                  So little? I thought more. But you know better ...
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  And who, in your opinion, is closer to the truth, VTsIOM, or you and your friends?

                  VTsIOM did not question any of my acquaintances. Where they get the data - God knows. It is clear that foreign analysts are not saints, but in all honesty, we have big problems with corruption in our country, and it does not matter where it is in the rating, but this problem exists and it is very serious.
                  1. -4
                    14 February 2021 15: 00
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    It is clear that foreign analysts are not saints, but in all honesty, we have big problems with corruption in our country, and it doesn't matter where it is in the rating, but this problem exists and it is very serious.

                    I completely agree. But the problem of corruption is not local, but hinders the development of mankind throughout history.
                    To say in the spirit of: "I am not interested in the rest of the world, it is important for me that there is no corruption in Russia" is as ridiculous as complaining about bad weather: "It does not matter to me what the weather is somewhere else, I want Russia to be always good. "
                    1. 0
                      14 February 2021 15: 07
                      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      To say in the spirit of: "I am not interested in the rest of the world, it is important for me that there is no corruption in Russia" is as ridiculous as complaining about bad weather: "It does not matter to me what the weather is somewhere else, I want Russia to be always good. "

                      I want Russia, in terms of corruption, to be equal to the advanced countries, and not "better than in Ukraine."
                      1. -2
                        14 February 2021 15: 19
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        I want Russia, in terms of corruption, to be equal to the advanced countries, and not "better than in Ukraine."

                        Why, I wonder, does it not occur to you that the "advanced countries" can banally underestimate the level of internal corruption?
                        Do you believe their supposedly low indicators, but ours do not, because "we are still much worse"?
                      2. 0
                        14 February 2021 15: 54
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Why, I wonder, does it not occur to you that the "advanced countries" can banally underestimate the level of internal corruption?

                        Yes, if only because "our" "elite" "there" acquires real estate, and zero of their elite acquire real estate here. Actors, officials and businessmen, as soon as an opportunity arises, try to move on their own or send their children there. The fish is looking for where it is better, and the person - where it is better. At least on this basis, it is clear that not everything is all right in our country.
                      3. -3
                        14 February 2021 17: 49
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        Yes, if only because "our" "elite" "there" acquires real estate, and zero of their elite acquire real estate here.


                        So what is the main problem? The fact that we have no other elite! Simply no! Navalny? Do not be ridiculous - the guy "fights" corruption not so that "Putin's palace" does not exist, but so that "Putin's palace" becomes very quickly and without costs "Navalny's palace" ...
                        The main problem is that if we change Putin, we will get the same Putin, only with cosmetic changes. It's just that one elite grouping will be replaced by another, and everything will remain the same.
                        So the situation is not just difficult, it is a stalemate ... Although there is a way out, most will not like it ...
                      4. 0
                        14 February 2021 19: 17
                        Quote: Albert1988
                        So the situation is not just difficult, it is a stalemate ... Although there is a way out, most will not like it ...

                        And what is your way out?
                      5. -7
                        14 February 2021 20: 04
                        Quote: Svarog
                        And what is your way out?

                        And there is only one way out - to finally finish with kindergarten and realize yourself as a civil society! It is very difficult, because it requires consciousness and self-organization from people. It is much easier to shout "Putin go away" in the squares and quietly grumble on the couch at the "hateful power". But to tear your ass off the couch and just go to the polls and vote - this is soooo turrrdnoooo. And by the way, it is the voices of such sofa-witnesses that are used by the authorities for all the rigging.
                        But this is so - the first step. But the first real step is to self-organize and develop your own clear requirements for power. The second real step is to convey these demands to the authorities.
                        Let me give you an example - in 2011, one harmful Federal Law came into force, which actually paralyzed the work of scientists in the natural sciences. What have the scientists done? That's right - first they assembled an initiative group, which went to the ministry and set out all the provisions dryly and clearly. As a result, the officials turned sour, lost heart and made the proposed amendments to the Federal Law ...
                        Here is a local, but still an example of how society should interact with the authorities. Another example - when 15 years ago the authorities wanted to cancel the benefits for pensioners, what did the pensioners do? That's right - they went out and blocked a couple of federal highways ... The authorities immediately backtracked ...
                        And all these shouts "Putin must leave! Russia will be free!", Which Lyoshka Provalny was trying to give out in the 12th at the marsh, just don't work ...
                      6. 0
                        15 February 2021 22: 06
                        Judging by the number of minuses, I still don't like the method, but there is nothing to argue ...
          2. -5
            14 February 2021 16: 06
            Quote: Hyperion
            And I would like to be close to Scandinavia.

            And how close? Russian taxes, zp-Scandinavian? I assure you they want it too. They cheered up a little in an unequal struggle with Russia, taxes are going to increase, the pension has already been raised and will be increased to 70, they strongly do not recommend vacuuming on weekends, energy has risen sharply in cold weather, gasoline too. Or do you believe that ordinary Karlsson in Sweden owns a pharmacy system or alcohol stores? Finally, take off your rose-colored glasses, which is the best in the west. Everything is exactly the same - whoever has power and money is good.
            1. +2
              14 February 2021 16: 18
              Quote: sheet
              energy has risen sharply in cold weather,

              Here Krajina will not freeze in any way (according to forecasts of Russian TV), and you mean Scandinavia ...
              Quote: sheet
              Or do you believe that ordinary Carlsson in Sweden owns a pharmacy system or alcohol stores?

              Why a network of pharmacies? A wide stratum of the real middle class (not like in Russia with a salary of 17 sp.), Which is well fed, shod, dressed and, in principle, lives normally.
              Quote: sheet
              Well, in an unequal struggle with Russia, they cheered up a little

              Pension in Russia ~ 15 sp., In Denmark ~ 200 sp. So who cheered up against whom?
              1. -5
                14 February 2021 16: 33
                Quote: Hyperion
                Denmark ~ 200 sput. So who cheered up against whom?

                I, of course, will not ask from whose ceiling you took this figure, but there are many living on a minimum pension, or why did you decide that you retired - sign and get 200 sput? Hole - I agree) To announce the cost of living in a month were you ashamed or do not know?
                1. +1
                  14 February 2021 16: 40
                  Quote: sheet
                  I, of course, will not ask from whose ceiling you took this figure

                  Considering the topic of pension provision for citizens in different countries of the world, one cannot fail to mention Denmark - the country with the highest pension in the world today. On average, a Danish pensioner receives US $ 2800 monthly, and this is no joke. It can be difficult for a Russian pensioner to understand how this is possible.

                  In addition to a more than decent state pension, Danes often have savings in NPFs, as a result of which the pensioner's income can be even higher.

                  https://visasam.ru/emigration/vybor/pensiya-v-stranah-mira.html
                  Quote: sheet
                  but many live there on a minimum pension

                  Many? How many? And what is the minimum pension?
                  Quote: sheet
                  To announce the cost of living per month, were you ashamed or don't know?

                  Sound, do not consider it a work.
                  1. -4
                    14 February 2021 17: 43
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    Many? How many? And what is the minimum pension?

                    the pension of a single Danish pensioner is approximately 13 thousand kroons.
                    his monthly expenses. He pays about 5 thousand kroons for housing with the help of state subsidies, 1,5 thousand kroons for heat and electricity with the help of state subsidies, for water - 1 kroons, for a telephone and TV - 1 kroons, for food - 3,5, 25 thousand kroons (in Denmark VAT is 0,5%), for transport - 0,5 thousand kroons, expenses related to health, with the help of state subsidies - XNUMX thousand kroons. In total, nothing remains for other expenses.
                    https://rvs.su/statia/pensionnaya-sistema-v-danii-kak-u-nih
                    Still want to be around?
                    1. +2
                      14 February 2021 18: 00
                      The article on your own link says:
                      Many Danes, who also have additional insurance pension savings, willingly take advantage of this, and at the age of 62 they stop working.

                      And you write that many live on the minimum wage.
                      And from what 5000 kroons for housing, if in fact not more than 1200?
                      https://ultramodern-home.ru/2018/01/uroven-zhizni-i-ceny-v-danii-v-2018/
                      The article that you cited was sucked out of the way, designed for hurray-patriots who believe that the West is about to decay and is designed to justify the cannibalistic pension reform in Russia.
                      1. -6
                        14 February 2021 18: 27
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        The article that you cited was sucked out of the way, designed for hurray-patriots who believe that the West is about to decay and is designed to justify the cannibalistic pension reform in Russia.

                        I'm not saying where did you suck 200 thousand pensions of the Danish pensioner. And the retirement age is being raised in Scandinavia and in your beloved Denmark, in Sweden - the next 70 years. To judge how people live in the country, it is better to live there, rather than watch tourist videos. And if you want to receive the same pension, you have to be willing to pay the same taxes to begin with. Do pensioners in Russia pay pension tax? 30% in Sweden, and% in Denmark you read in the link. My mother-in-law is a pensioner. 137 thousand Swedish kronor a year pension, before tax. There are no additional payments, all her pension savings burned out along with the fund. Tax -30%. Communal - yes, benefits, otherwise you can't afford it, kopeck piece 4500 CZK per month, for her 1500. Plus electricity, telephone, television (plus 1300 CZK tax on TV per year, regardless of whether you have it or not) is no less 1000 CZK per month. Food - at least 2000 CZK is very modest. Plus medicine, she is a diabetic. If there was a car, plus taxes, gasoline (95 cost yesterday at the gas station 15,10 kroons), repairs. Clothes, hygiene, I’m even ashamed to write. And there are many like her.
                        So saying that her pension is one hundred thousand tyrs, do not forget to deduct all tax and other tyras.
                      2. +2
                        14 February 2021 18: 42
                        Quote: sheet
                        And the retirement age is being raised in Scandinavia and in your beloved Denmark, in Sweden - the next 70 years.

                        The current retirement age in Sweden is 62. And in Russia 60/65 years. You don't need to build a Vangu out of yourself, they will raise, they will not raise - we will wait and see.
                        Quote: sheet
                        kopeck piece CZK 4500 per month, for her 1500

                        Where does 1500 "for her" come from? 1200 maximum.
                        Quote: sheet
                        Do pensioners in Russia pay pension tax?

                        From 15 thousand? After paying for utilities plus / minus 5 thousand? Do you want to let Russian pensioners go around the world?
                        Quote: sheet
                        95 cost 15,10 CZK yesterday at the gas station

                        We have around 5 crowns. That is, three times. And the pension is less by an order of magnitude. And diabetics, I think no less. And given the quality of the products and the environment, no more.
                      3. -4
                        14 February 2021 19: 31
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        Where does 1500 "for her" come from? 1200 maximum.

                        Do you know better than me how much my Swedish mother-in-law pays to rent an apartment? Housing benefits are based on income.
                        "The current retirement age in Sweden is 62 years."
                        This is the minimum age when a working (!) Swede can retire. If a person has not worked, then only a guaranteed pension will shine for him, and a guaranteed pension is paid from the age of 65. From 2026 they promise from 69. For single people it is slightly more than for married people.
                        https://www.pensionsmyndigheten.se/forsta-din-pension/sa-fungerar-pensionen/garantipension-om-du-har-lag-pension
                      4. +3
                        14 February 2021 22: 38
                        And that your mother-in-law will not move to Bugulma, in such situations?
                      5. -5
                        14 February 2021 22: 46
                        Quote: Keer
                        And that your mother-in-law will not move to Bugulma, in such situations?

                        You were not mistaken as the addressee? I have no mother-in-law. And it never will be because of my normal orientation.
                      6. +1
                        15 February 2021 00: 06
                        Simple, mother-in-law, of course, why won't she go to Ustyuzhna, for example, to live?
                      7. -6
                        15 February 2021 08: 18
                        Quote: Keer
                        Simple, mother-in-law, of course, why won't she go to Ustyuzhna, for example, to live?

                        At 85? Leaving your loved ones? Without knowing the language, how do you imagine that? Someone will offer her a job or, forgive, marriage?)
              2. -11
                14 February 2021 16: 39
                Quote: Hyperion
                lives normally.

                In principle, they live normally in Russia. How would you like the middle class in Sweden dressing children in rags and buying them second hand Christmas presents? Not frail part of the middle class does just that, saving them all. And the majority create families in order to save money, pay for everything in half.
                1. +2
                  14 February 2021 16: 44
                  Quote: sheet
                  is the middle class in Sweden dressing children in rags and buying them second hand Christmas presents?

                  Rave. And even if ..? Maybe Swedish rags are better than Chinese "new" consumer goods made from toxic polymers?
                  1. -3
                    14 February 2021 17: 46
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    Maybe Swedish rags are better than Chinese "new" consumer goods made from toxic polymers?

                    And where did you get the idea that everything in Sweden is Swedish? Even the Swedish flag on the stand is made in China.
                    1. +1
                      14 February 2021 18: 17
                      Quote: sheet
                      Even the Swedish flag on the stand is made in China.

                      Past
                      https://www.wildberries.ru/catalog/16045974/detail.aspx?targetUrl=IN
                      Top 10 Swedish clothing and footwear brands
                      https://zen.yandex.ru/media/trip_advice/top10-shvedskih-brendov-odejdy-i-obuvi-5dcadec6418cd54d70f2a12c
                      1. -3
                        14 February 2021 18: 43
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        Top 10 Swedish clothing and footwear brands

                        )) some of these brands the Swedish pensioner will not be able to afford even as "rags". You ask about prices. I'll tell you more, if a brand is Swedish, it doesn't mean that it is produced in Sweden. This applies not only to rags, but also to Ikea, Volvo, etc.
                      2. +2
                        14 February 2021 18: 57
                        Quote: sheet
                        some of these brands the Swedish pensioner will not be able to afford even as "rags".

                        Yes Yes. And Swedish pensioners also collect delays near hypermarkets.
                        Quote: sheet
                        You ask about prices.

                        Women's dress H&M 150-200 CZK. Jacket - about 1000 CZK. Quite affordable for a Swedish pension.
                      3. -5
                        14 February 2021 20: 12
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        And Swedish pensioners also collect delays near hypermarkets.

                        I understand you really want to convince yourself, and not only yourself, that pensioners in the west are both fatter and rosy.
                        The answer is yes, they collect. And bottles are collected and cans. But not all, my mother-in-law certainly not. Just like my mother, a pensioner living in Russia, she does not pick anything up.
                        It is useless to discuss further.
                      4. +1
                        14 February 2021 20: 51
                        Quote: sheet
                        I understand you really want to convince yourself, and not only yourself, that pensioners in the west are both fatter and rosy.

                        I don't need to convince myself or anyone else of this. The facts speak for themselves. It is our people who are trying to get there, and almost no one comes to live here.
                      5. +18
                        14 February 2021 23: 27
                        Quote: sheet
                        I understand you really want to convince yourself, and not only myself, that retirees in the west are both fatter and rosy.

                        Why convince? I've seen it all.

                        Western pence travels to hot countries on social networks. And they look very decent outwardly (and this is aged!). And our pensioners, with a pension of 150 euros, can only dream of this ... between the struggle for delay from Pyaterochka.
                      6. -4
                        15 February 2021 09: 45
                        Quote: Stas157
                        Western pence travels to hot countries on social networks. And they look very decent outwardly (and this is aged!). And our pensioners, with a pension of 150 euros, can only dream of this ... between the struggle for delay from Pyaterochka.

                        I didn’t understand what you meant “social vacation”. You can link to see where, who? I didn’t find it in Sweden, except maybe moving to another country and possibly getting treatment. Don't pensioners in Russia have them?
                        The size of pensions has already been slightly discussed, as it turned out, the pension, as in Denmark, I want, but I did not want to pay taxes from it and live at Danish prices. Moreover, the average Danish pensioner was unable to travel to a hot country on vacation.
                        And the fight for the delay, I can give you (and those who minus above) links to how even non-pensioners live on food from containers, they are quite families with children abroad.
                        Min familj sparar 4 500 kronor per månad på dumpstring, säger Andreas.
                        https://ekuriren.se/extra/andreas-familj-lever-pa-sopor-som-butikerna-ratar
                        Vi kan till 95 percent leva på att dumpstra, säger Jenny Wahlqvist, 35, som har dumpstrat i tre år.
                        https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/klimat/jenny-35-har-dumpstrat-i-tre-ar-hittar-jattemycket/
                        There are even instructions in the net on how to deal with the collection of delays, although it is indicated that this is not legal.
                        Everything is everywhere. The difference is in the perception of this.
                      7. +1
                        16 February 2021 09: 18
                        She speaks complete nonsense, apparently a paid troll ... there are a lot of them ...
                2. +2
                  16 February 2021 09: 16
                  What nonsense are you talking about ... I lived in Finland for 4 years in Vanta, I have been to Sweden many times, I have friends there and not only ... there is nothing like that that you describe, there is no trace of it, the pensions are worthy there, as well as the whole life ... my mother-in-law, for example, moved to Finka at the age of 64, and immediately received housing and a pension of 890 euros (plus she does not pay for utilities and other buns), she did not work for this country for a day and lives with dignity, naturally from her pension the Russian had to be abandoned ... and God be with her, she only has enough for bread and water ... and in Sweden there will be more pensions than in a Finn ... so there is no need to carry the propaganda of the Kremlin here ... this does not work anymore
                  1. -2
                    16 February 2021 12: 03
                    Quote: Yaroslavsky
                    moved to Finka at 64, and immediately received housing and a pension of 890 euros (plus she does not pay for utilities and other buns), she did not work for a day

                    Are you trying to lie to me? Immediately retire? You need to live in the country for a while, Finland - 3 years.
                    http://mosaiikki.info/lakiasiat_ru.php?id=vanhuuselake
                    https://samechas.com/pension-finland/
                    In Sweden, a guaranteed pension is paid after 3 years of residence, but in order to receive a Full (!) Guaranteed pension, you have to live 40 years, otherwise it is reduced by 1/40 for each year not lived in the country. That is, you have lived for 3 years, you will receive 3/40 of your pension. If you didn’t work, there will be no retirement pension. The pension of another state is deducted from the Swedish pension. Previously, they believed in the word, you don't get it, so it is, now an officer is provided. document on not / or receiving a pension in another state.
                    https://www.pensionsmyndigheten.se/forsta-din-pension/sa-fungerar-pensionen/garantipension-om-du-har-lag-pension
                    And there is no need to call everyone who has a view and opinion different from yours, trolls; moreover, I have lived by orders of magnitude of your 4 years more in Sweden and I see perfectly well what is happening there. The links that I presented were not written by me, or do you and those who wrote articles in newspapers / the Internet about how they live on food from containers, do you also write down in trolls with an automatic machine? Unlike you, I did not register all Scandinavian pensioners as beggars, as you do with Russian ones. There are poor pensioners, I say this with confidence about Sweden and there is nothing free for them, benefits, yes, but not free. And the fact that the state gives with one hand and takes away with the other, this applies to all countries without exception. Only now I do not understand the certainty that this is the most in Russia. And what my acquaintances say, I never fully trust, I've seen enough, you know.
                    1. +2
                      16 February 2021 13: 39
                      And I responsibly declare to you that you are mistaken about the lack of confidence in the poverty of Russian pensioners, and you are greatly mistaken, our pensioners, unlike Western ones (I will not even mention prosperous Sweden), live much worse, they do not live, they survive in their total mass .. .there are exceptions where pensions are still early and full-fledged, there are state-level officials, military and security officials ... there are better things ... I agree ... but those who kept them before retirement created products with added value, they live on retirement in poverty ... and not retired, our people live poorly, the salaries are enough, only for poor-quality food and, God forbid, for housing and communal services ... you give the data like many of my friends living abroad. ..they watch the central media, where there are only breakthroughs and jerks ... and then it is beneficial for you to lower the standard of living there in order to show your importance and success ... so they say look poor fellows, I live where I live badly, and you are in your homeland where well, you can’t ... sit straight on your ass ... we know m you from there) swam
                      1. -1
                        16 February 2021 16: 00
                        Quote: Yaroslavsky
                        then it is beneficial for you to lower the standard of living there in order to show your importance and success ... so look, poor fellows, I live where I live badly, and you cannot live where it is good in your homeland ... sit on your ass ... we know you from there) swam

                        I hope you don't have such thoughts from a long voyage. Have I shown my worth and success? Don't fantasize on me.
                        I gave you data, links that not everything is so rosy in the Scandinavian kingdom, and, forgive me, I don’t want to compare the living standards of refugees, migrants, who came for work, etc., with the indigenous population. Some (we read carefully, this does not mean all) refugees receive benefits from a state-guaranteed pension and "other goodies". One Afghan woman posted a video in tiktok, how she is having fun on the welfare, saying "work more Swedes, I will soon get my license and buy a new (!) Car." And you call my references to Swedes (Swedes, Karl!) Collecting food in containers nonsense and trolling. And by this we will judge life or by those retirees in one of the nursing homes in Sweden who receive half an egg for breakfast?
                        It is, whatever one may say, part of life and it does not matter that you continue to repeat with the persistence of a maniac that it is worse in Russia.
                      2. 0
                        17 February 2021 09: 22
                        and you do not misinterpret, not refugees, but indigenous settlers, that is, the Finns who ended up on the territory of another state in 1939 and their children ... so do not take the dialogue away again in a direction convenient for you ... and it’s absolutely touching to hear, that life in Sweden is worse than in the Russian Federation ... this, as they say, is prohibitive, it is beyond the bounds, beyond reason, if you want ... well, then you really don't have to lie, brazenly and stupidly)
                      3. -1
                        17 February 2021 11: 57
                        Quote: Yaroslavsky
                        and you do not misinterpret, not refugees, but indigenous settlers, that is, the Finns who ended up on the territory of another state in 1939 and their children ... so do not take the dialogue away again in a direction convenient for you ... and it’s absolutely touching to hear, that life in Sweden is worse than in the Russian Federation ... this, as they say, is prohibitive, it is beyond the bounds, beyond reason, if you want ... well, then you really don't have to lie, brazenly and stupidly)

                        Firstly, I did not write that life in Sweden is worse than in Russia. I wrote that not everything is so rosy and sated, explain the difference and or are you keeping up with me? And you are lying too or lying blatantly. Read your comments above, then you have friends in Sweden and there is no trace of what I have described, then these friends are acquaintances of the same opinion as me. I hope they are aware of your opinion that they are really showing you their "significance?") And yes, if you can read carefully, I did not heap up refugees and displaced persons, unlike you, judging by the level of your mother-in-law.
                        And lastly, the fact that I was "minus", as you put it below, does not tell me anything, if they lived for a long time in Scandinavia - another conversation.
                        This concludes the discussion.
                      4. 0
                        18 February 2021 08: 41
                        There is no discussion, there is blatant lies on the one hand, and rudeness ... and attempts to return a person from heaven to earth ... your position has no foundation, because your words are not worth anything ... ciao
                    2. +2
                      16 February 2021 13: 41
                      and about the three years immediately necessary to receive a pension ... under the indigenous resettlement program in 2004, no seniority was needed ... now the program has been scaled down, because of the crowd of those who wish ... it's understandable, everyone is bursting with poverty from Russia. .. do you understand?)
                      1. -3
                        16 February 2021 15: 29
                        Quote: Yaroslavsky
                        and about the three years immediately required to receive a pension ... under the indigenous resettlement program in 2004,

                        Did I write something about seniority? I wrote about living in the country. Perhaps, according to the resettlement program, there are different rules, then you shouldn't judge by your mother-in-law by the retirees of Scandinavia ... do you understand this? (Your quote)
                      2. +1
                        17 February 2021 09: 26
                        Well, I know there is more than one pensioner there ... and I can judge not by a hundred%, but close ... you generally say wild things ... do you see how your thoughts were evaluated by the people higher? When there was a dialogue ... you just minus when there was a quorum ... no one agrees with you
          3. -8
            14 February 2021 16: 13
            "I want Russia, in terms of corruption, to be equal to the advanced countries, and not" better than in Ukraine. "
            Desires are not implemented without their efforts, but they fight corruption and the rest, maybe not as quickly as we would like
            1. 0
              14 February 2021 18: 22
              Quote: Strannik96
              and they fight corruption and the rest

              Struggling, of course ... Bees against honey.
              Putin's cousin nephew became head of the People Against Corruption party
              https://www.rbc.ru/politics/05/07/2020/5f0219919a79471eed8212c3
        3. -2
          14 February 2021 14: 10
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          I would like to ask one more question.
          And name at least one country where there is no, or was not, corruption, nepotism in power, clerks?

          This is called the "black and white world". Like, if corruption cannot be completely eradicated, then you should not try to reduce it. This is not so, there are more than two colors, everything has shades.
          1. -7
            14 February 2021 14: 21
            Quote: military_cat
            This is called the "black and white world". Like, if corruption cannot be completely eradicated, then you should not try to reduce it. This is not so, there are more than two colors, everything has shades.

            The desire for hoarding is a property of the human psyche. The same as the desire for violence and lies, for example.
            Have you eradicated lies and abuse of power in yourself? Have you ever used anyone to your advantage?
            1. +5
              14 February 2021 14: 35
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              The desire for hoarding is a property of the human psyche. The same as the desire for violence and lies, for example.

              That's right, for this reason there is a prosecutor's office, a court ... an investigative committee ... and other power structures that must fight human weaknesses according to the law .. And we are fighting with those who have no money, and who do not have it .. And even the guarantor prescribed this "norm" for himself and his friends in the Constitution ..
              1. -2
                14 February 2021 19: 53
                Quote: Svarog
                fight human weakness legally

                over the past year 12 thousand people were convicted of corruption out of 30 thousand registered cases. I don't know if it's a lot or a little or for a bag of potatoes. everyone admits that Mishustin learned how to collect taxes. the gray economy is leaving. it is more and more difficult to clean the shop and the cache is no longer used by those tools.
                and what should it be like this fight against corruption? box of sweets a bottle of cognac here and there is this article? or Chinese methods for 20 years 10 thousand were shot for corruption or Andropov's experience or? .... do not offer cellists to the bunks
                1. +3
                  14 February 2021 20: 03
                  Quote: kitty
                  and what should it be like this fight against corruption?

                  It should start with nepotism in the upper echelons of power, where the children of high-ranking officials are so brilliant that they run entire corporations at thirty .. and pretty girls become generals .. The fish rots from the head, that's where you need to start the fight against corruption and nepotism ..
                  over the past year 12 thousand people were convicted of corruption out of 30 thousand registered cases.

                  Everything is much simpler, it is enough to check the members of the government for income and expenses, taking into account all the relatives and ask ... where is the ZIN money? We have all high-ranking officials billionaires ..
                2. +14
                  14 February 2021 23: 34
                  Quote: kitty
                  do not offer cellists to the bunk

                  Why is this so touching concern for the cellists all of a sudden?

                  Quote: kitty
                  Mishustin learned how to collect taxes

                  From the people. Three skins. And from the king's friends? Not. Have not heard!
            2. +4
              14 February 2021 15: 11
              The desire for hoarding is a property of the human psyche


              If the monkey collected and hid more bananas than it could eat while its flock starved to death, scientists would study its brain for pathology.
              When there are individuals similar to people who do this, they end up on the cover of Forbes magazine (c) ..
            3. +4
              14 February 2021 16: 28
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              The desire for hoarding is a property of the human psyche. The same as the desire for violence and lies, for example.

              Besides the inner nature, there are external stimuli. It is also natural for a person not to want to go to work, but external stimuli quite effectively change his behavior. The task of public administration is to create such a system so that the incentives acting in it lead to the maximization of the common good, and not the maximization of the good of a narrow group of people.
        4. -1
          14 February 2021 14: 13
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          And name at least one country where there is no, or was not, corruption, nepotism in power, clerks?

          If there is such a country, then this is just another anecdote.
          1. -5
            14 February 2021 14: 17
            Quote: tihonmarine
            If there is such a country, then this is just another anecdote.

            There are plenty of such countries, but they are all fictional.
        5. -2
          14 February 2021 14: 18
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          And name at least one country where there is no, or was not, corruption, nepotism in power, clerks?

          USSR under Stalin.
          1. -8
            14 February 2021 14: 29
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            USSR under Stalin.

            Are you absolutely sure of this? On what grounds?
            https://logikaprogressa.com/legendarium-stalinistov/pri-staline-ne-bylo-korruptsii.html
            Or is it all a lie?
            1. -3
              14 February 2021 15: 31
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Or is it all a lie?

              Lies are more than truth. Khrushchev started with his comrades, and then a galaxy of Western and US counterfeiters appeared. You can learn the truth only from those relatives or friends who lived before 1954.
              1. +1
                14 February 2021 15: 39
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Lies are more than truth.

                Lies will always be more than truth, because lying is more pleasant, and truth is ruthless.
                1. -3
                  14 February 2021 16: 05
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Lies will always be more than truth, because lying is more pleasant

                  They pay money for lying, but they beat on the neck for the truth.
            2. -1
              14 February 2021 16: 00
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              https://logikaprogressa.com/legendarium-stalinistov/pri-staline-ne-bylo-korruptsii.html
              Or is it all a lie?

              They were caught. And they punished.
            3. 0
              15 February 2021 09: 13
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Or is it all a lie?

              Well, read the memoirs of Golovanov, how Grizodubova lampooned him, and then lay at his feet.
          2. -2
            14 February 2021 15: 27
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            USSR under Stalin.

            You see, some have forgotten, others do not even remember this. So we will live as we live.
        6. +12
          14 February 2021 15: 06
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          And name at least one country where there is no, or was not, corruption, nepotism in power, clerks?

          You here decided to crush everyone with demagoguery? In your opinion, everything is the same everywhere and there is no difference (even if at least one case happens)?
          1. -3
            14 February 2021 15: 31
            Quote: Stas157
            You here decided to crush everyone with demagoguery? In your opinion, everything is the same everywhere and there is no difference (even if at least one case happens)?

            I didn't understand where you saw demagoguery.
            Yes, everything is the same everywhere. Because people are the same everywhere, because they belong to the same species. The variability is naturally endless. But they still compose different music from seven notes.
            The difference lies only in the degree of tightness of the nuts, but this still does not solve anything. Even if only two people remain on Earth, they will still deceive each other.
            1. +12
              14 February 2021 22: 59
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              I didn't understand where you saw demagoguery.
              Yes, everything is the same everywhere... Because people are the same everywhere

              In your opinion, there is no difference if, for example, in a team of 100 people, everyone steals or only one. After all, in the collective they lie! But only a real demagogue can equalize such different options.

              And yes, these generalizations can be done with literally everything, because nothing is absolute. There is only one problem - we bring everything to the point of absurdity.

              About your person. Such crude fabrications are possible in only two ways. Either you are a scoundrel deliberately misleading people, or a very narrow-minded person. And then, and then - it looks very unsightly.
      4. -2
        14 February 2021 14: 03
        Pockets were stuffed, children were housed in hated America / Britain, and they told us about the terrible terrible threats from external enemies.
      5. 0
        14 February 2021 14: 05
        He lifted the impoverished state on its knees from its knees, while Russians even today can afford everything no one could dream of in the 90s.
        1. +2
          14 February 2021 16: 23
          Exactly what we have we do not keep, but when we lose we cry
      6. +1
        14 February 2021 14: 07
        Quote: Svarog
        What did you do to prevent such a situation that you have been doing for 20 years?

        pandemic expected and finally waited! (everything is predicted by Vanga) And how convenient it is now to blame everything on a pandemic!
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      8. +2
        14 February 2021 16: 11
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Hyperion
        The protests in support of Alexei Navalny took place amid the irritation of Russians caused by quarantine measures against the pandemic.

        And also against the background of rising prices, high levels of corruption, nepotism in power, etc., etc. But the author is modestly silent about this ...

        Yes, I would like to ask a question ... what did you do to prevent such a situation that you have been doing for 20 years?

        And what did they do: Germany, the USA, Europe, still lie in lockdown, who hung such a lockdown on them for the poor - where is it almost 75 years after 1945. How many countries have been able to develop a vaccine? And where are the rest and theirs not 20 years old, but much more? There is no need to slander the president, the West is working hard on this, why help them, they won’t help you if
      9. +1
        15 February 2021 02: 02
        What did you do to prevent such a situation that you have been doing for 20 years?
        For example, I worked (and this hour there) at a nuclear power plant, and did everything so that people had light and warmth (I have been doing this for 25 years already), while the wage arrears in 90, early 2000 were 9 (nine) months ... ......
    2. 0
      14 February 2021 13: 52
      Quote: Hyperion
      And also against the background of rising prices, high levels of corruption, nepotism in power, pension reform, etc., etc. But the author is modestly silent about this ...

      This is why, apparently, the protest stopped on the command that you need to end on a "high" note? And where, then, did the problems go: “price increases, high levels of corruption, nepotism in power, pension reform”? Have you solved all the problems already? The team came, they will go now to shine with flashlights. There is no team, they are sitting at home. You have some strange protest.
      And the pension reform has been around for a long time. Where then was there a protest on this occasion? Do you need a shepherd in the person of Navalny, who has never been a solution to these problems?
      1. -4
        14 February 2021 13: 58
        Quote: Cron
        And the pension reform has been around for a long time.

        What do you mean "was"? She is here with us, dominating every young and middle-aged Russian with a sword of Damocles.
        Quote: Cron
        You definitely need a shepherd in the person of Navalny

        The masses always need a leader or leader. This is Navalny or someone else - it doesn't matter.
        1. +3
          14 February 2021 14: 09
          What do you mean "was"? She is here with us, dominating every young and middle-aged Russian with a sword of Damocles.

          And that means that the protest should have started much earlier. It is not necessary for this to fill up all Internet resources with advertising, including various tik tok.
          The masses always need a leader or leader. This is Navalny or someone else - it doesn't matter.

          Well then, apparently, the leader matches his rams
          1. -6
            14 February 2021 14: 22
            Quote: Cron
            And that means that the protest should have started much earlier.

            What can I say ..? We are inert, Russians ... We harness it for a long time, as they say ...
            Quote: Cron
            It is not necessary for this to fill up all Internet resources with advertising

            The Internet is still more or less free from censorship, unlike TV. The last stronghold of self-expression, although not without sin ...
            Quote: Cron
            Well then, apparently, the leader matches his rams

            Essentially true if you remove the negative connotation of the word "ram". This is from the category: "Every nation deserves its own government." Sad but true ...
      2. 0
        14 February 2021 14: 00
        And the pension reform has been around for a long time.

        Brilliant argument! And nothing that its consequences - are we just now beginning to feel on ourselves? Now half of me are 55 years old .. You know, you somehow very vividly remember your own guarantor ..
        1. -4
          14 February 2021 14: 12
          Quote: paul3390
          Brilliant argument! And nothing that its consequences - are we just now beginning to feel on ourselves? Now half of me are 55 years old .. You know, you somehow very vividly remember your own guarantor ..

          The argument is really brilliant, but the understanding of it, scrolled through your stupidity, is not very good.
          I just said that the protest should have started much earlier. To do this, it is not necessary for someone to hit the urine in the head and he went to shoot cartoons.
          1. 0
            14 February 2021 15: 14
            Only a liberal one seriously believes that the people will immediately rush to the streets immediately after being ordered. Yes, fuck you in both hands - as long as people do not feel what is happening to their bones, no one will twitch. This is called a revolutionary situation, you are our beacon of thought ..
            1. -5
              14 February 2021 15: 45
              Quote: paul3390
              Only a liberal one seriously believes that the people will immediately rush to the streets immediately after being ordered. Yes, fuck you in both hands - as long as people do not feel what is happening to their bones, no one will twitch. This is called a revolutionary situation, you are our beacon of thought ..

              Well, apparently, in the 90s, no one felt anything and therefore no one jerked anywhere. And now everyone seems to have pampered. I have no other explanation, well, at least if you use your logic.

              Before there is:

              After no.

              Before there is:

              After no.

              You have a strange revolutionary situation. More like walking cattle
        2. -6
          14 February 2021 15: 06
          Quote: paul3390
          Now half of me are 55 years old .. You know, you somehow very vividly remember your own guarantor ..

          Do you hate your job so much that the desire to live in you only supports the thought of retirement?
          Chertok, Boris Evseevich worked until almost the last day.
          1. +1
            14 February 2021 15: 21
            I'm still quite alive. Although - I don’t think that in 10 years I will be able to rush around at work like a bitten ass .. But half - alas, not very good .. Yes, and there are grandchildren, you also have to sit with them while the youngsters work out their mortgage. .. So - with great pleasure I would have already retired .. But - shish.
            1. -3
              14 February 2021 18: 51
              Quote: paul3390
              But half - alas, not so great ...

              So the fact that your half was unlucky with work is it really Putin's fault?
              1. 0
                14 February 2021 18: 58
                Tell me honestly - are you only half literate? Taught to write, to read - no? Unfortunately, this is a very common phenomenon in our time. I kind of painted everything very clearly? What nonsense are you asking?

                If we are raised to the age of 100, will you also be overwhelmed by the incredible wisdom of decisions? And broadcast that type and in a hundred years - the people still wow, should they take care of their own content? Only one question - why the hell am I paying money in PF all my life? Is it like another tax?
  4. +4
    14 February 2021 13: 43
    Putin believes that people are unhappy with the deterioration of their living standards in the context of the economic crisis caused by the pandemic and blame the leadership for their troubles

    Well, he cannot say to the whole country that many people take to the streets not because they are for Navalny, but because they are against Putin. Or maybe he doesn't understand this anymore, age, nevertheless ... I have a feeling that Putin has built a comfortable zone for himself in terms of the economy - he hit Rosstat on the head, which now gives him beautiful, but false reports, and everything suits everyone. ..
    1. +2
      14 February 2021 14: 01
      ... Or maybe he doesn't understand this anymore, age, nevertheless ...

      Andrey, yes, he understands everything with his surroundings very well ... just because of his age, he can’t just change anything ... time is lost forever ...
    2. -6
      14 February 2021 14: 04
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Well, he cannot tell the whole country that many people take to the streets not because they are for Navalny, but because they are against Putin. Or maybe he doesn't understand this anymore, age, nevertheless ...

      Yes, something will not be enough for you then to even mention it.

      It doesn't matter what you thought up and fantasized for yourself, if you go to a rally organized by Lesha Navalny, then you marry him. And it doesn't matter what you are against small salaries, small pensions, Putin, etc. And he will enjoy the fruits of the protest, not you.
      In 2014, in Ukraine, you could also go out against Yanukovych, for European salaries, education, medicine, low tariffs, etc. But in fact, you went out for high tariffs, a low standard of living, for the destruction of domestic production, for low pensions and etc .. Just to realize this, you need to be able to read and understand the documents for which they jumped so high.
      1. +7
        14 February 2021 15: 00
        Quote: Cron
        Yes, something will not be enough for you then to even mention it.

        There are many of us, because the overwhelming majority of those who are dissatisfied with Putin do not attend Navalny's rallies. It is for the very reason that they understand, unlike you, that "against Putin" is one thing, and "for Navalny" is quite another. But already quite a few people are already ready to go, no matter who, after anyone, as long as against Putin - which the recent rallies have shown.
        1. -4
          14 February 2021 16: 33
          at the beginning of 2010 a sister for our mother received - a wheelchair - OTTO, made in Russia, an inflatable anti-decubitus mattress, made in Russia - all this is free. So I think the money was allocated earlier, then the production was built, then the social services received it and then gave it to the patient free of charge. The system is being restored in all areas, have they forgotten in the same 2012 what the Savings Bank looked like, with its wretched branches? The airports are abandoned, and now airports in many cities have been restored, and this is under sanctions - there is a war against Russia, of course hard
    3. nnm
      0
      14 February 2021 14: 11
      Yes, for him it is already a lot to admit that people come out not deceived, but really dissatisfied with the current state of affairs. I did not even compare them with contraceptives, as in Bolotnaya. But the question remains - in which direction his "understanding" will unfold: in the direction of reaction or temporary release of steam.
      1. -3
        14 February 2021 14: 30
        Quote: nnm
        But the question remains - in which direction his "understanding" will unfold: in the direction of reaction or temporary release of steam.


        Is this question still? wassat Don't you follow what's going on?
  5. +8
    14 February 2021 13: 50

    Eh, one medicine is moonshine! Sober, as it vaguely melts. recourse
    1. -15
      14 February 2021 14: 08
      Tie a drink already, Ukrainian :))) You will drink all the independence!
      1. +3
        14 February 2021 14: 36
        Tie a drink already, Ukrainian :))

        It's not for you to judge how much I drink, I was born in the USSR. Such as you have divided, and created counties, the consequence of which is happening - unrest in Russi. With Putin, Yanukovych and other Sabbath. From these circumstances, you must also make a start. All people want a normal life, without provocation and insidiousness. There will be mistakes, but they should not become desolate.
  6. +12
    14 February 2021 13: 50
    It would be better to explain why people would have irritation, discontent and other negativity under his wise rule .. Just mind you - don't blame everything on covidlo! For with him, he showed himself to be an outright redneck, in fact, he refused to support people and small businesses. Actually, not declaratively .. In contrast to the same West, which poured out trillions on the affected fellow citizens.

    Better yet, he honestly admitted that people are not satisfied with the regime he created. Not satisfied with the wildest social inequality, the constant unjustified rise in prices, the adopted idiotic laws, total corruption and nepotism, the permanent attack on the social sector, the general impoverishment of people, empty loud promises, eternal false assaults on the USSR, lies and the transcendent arrogance of their proteges, and so on and so on .. In general-all that is the very essence of Putin's version of capitalism .. But hell is recognized. He and his nukers are satisfied with everything .. As a result, all this fraternity has long been and no one simply believes .. And they begin to hate fiercely. As a true enemy of the people.

    But the USSR and Comrade Stalin - to remember with longing and love .. And draw conclusions from what is happening.

    But smart people warned him - do not touch the issue of pensions .. All the more so - so impudently and shamelessly .. For this seems to have become the last straw in the bowl of human patience ..


    Confucius, answering the question about what is important for the state, said that three things are needed: the sufficiency of weapons, the sufficiency of food and the people's confidence. And when he was asked to drop two points, leaving the most important thing, that without which it is impossible in any way, he answered: the trust of the people.
    1. +11
      14 February 2021 13: 59
      It would be better to explain why people would get irritated, discontent and other negativity under his wise rule ..

      The point of view depends on the seating point. A hungry sated is not a friend! Eh ... (:
    2. -8
      14 February 2021 14: 21
      Quote: paul3390
      And even better - honestly admitted that people are not satisfied with the regime

      So in any country, the regime, corruption, nepotism, oligarchs and violation of the rights of the poor.
    3. -17
      14 February 2021 14: 31
      Quote: paul3390
      The USSR and Comrade Stalin - to remember with longing and love ..


      You cannot remember Comrade Stalin. Only fantasies about him smile
      1. +2
        14 February 2021 15: 17
        It is not for you to judge what I can and what cannot. They would go on and lustfully lick the seat of the adored guarantor. Just do not forget to polish your tongue with toothpaste - they say he does not like rough ones .. And yours is definitely rough, from constantly carried delirium.
        1. -7
          14 February 2021 15: 23
          Quote: paul3390

          Quote: Eye of the Crying

          You cannot remember Comrade Stalin. Only fantasies about him smile

          It is not for you to judge what I can and what cannot.


          It is not for you to judge what to judge me. The youngest of those who can remember Comrade Stalin are already under 90. And you only have fantasies.
    4. -6
      14 February 2021 16: 50
      "The USSR and Comrade Stalin - to remember with longing and love .. And draw conclusions from what is happening"
      But smart people warned him - do not touch the issue of pensions .. All the more so - so impudently and shamelessly .. For it seems to have become the last straw in the bowl of human patience. "
      My grandmother did not have a pension, although she lost her breadwinner - her son near Stalingrad, this was only later when it became better in the late 60s they began to pay something. The state had no money, after the war. And how long has it been before the war, the beginning of 2008, then 2014 - and despite all the sanctions - we are not living badly. And I have not heard from my grandmother slander against the leadership. And under Stalin - that there was no corruption, the elite or top leaders who also lived in luxury
  7. +7
    14 February 2021 13: 54
    People come out against the control system that they have built in 20 years, and he attracts by the ears some momentary moments.
  8. +5
    14 February 2021 13: 59
    "Yeah, the people are tired of the pandemic" of course, palaces and stolen loot from the people, this has nothing to do with it, the pandemic is to blame!
  9. +6
    14 February 2021 14: 05
    How convenient it is to blame everything on a pandemic, while dropping the ruble and thereby raising prices. You are our bondman ...
  10. -13
    14 February 2021 14: 06
    How already tired of the whiners on the VO. And here I watch Svarog the most advanced. You dear look like to protect the poor and hait the government. Only you yourself know what poverty is, you yourself have ever been hungry! Who told you that you are so smart! I personally went through all this from 90 to 2000 and I know what happened then and what happened after. So I want to tell you that you are a snickering boor, my friend.
    1. 0
      14 February 2021 14: 30
      Quote: R-140
      Only you yourself know what poverty is, you yourself have ever been hungry! Who told you that you are so smart! I personally went through all this from 90 to 2000 and I know what happened then and what happened after. So I want to tell you that you are a snickering boor, my friend.

      I also went through the 90s and zero, so what? If in the 90s I could get one vacation pay for one vacation, working on the legacy of the USSR in France to hit the road for a month on one vacation, now I can hardly recruit for housing services.
    2. -4
      14 February 2021 14: 32
      Quote: R-140
      I personally went through all this from 90 to 2000 and I know what happened then and what happened after.


      Earlier it was called "if only there was no war."
  11. +6
    14 February 2021 14: 08
    "This is the share of the bosses. Nothing can be done about it." - in short, "This is the way" (c) :-)
    In matters of a specific interpretation of events, our president is not inferior to the fortunetellers of antiquity, who used to guess by stones, foam on the sea and animal intestines. And they interpreted it with the appropriate, I would say, fantasy.
    It is indisputable that the COVID seats contributed to the social swing of the population, but it must be understood that the inept internal policy to combat this COVID, the previous foreign policy events and, in general, the continuation of the extremely untimely line with "zero amendments" contributed to this swing even more. Actually, this led to the focusing of public discontent, but, of course, we will not say about this: D
  12. +8
    14 February 2021 14: 10
    Return the old retirement age !!! Otherwise there will be no consensus!
    1. +1
      14 February 2021 14: 19
      consensus!
      - stop expressing yourself in polite society
    2. -2
      14 February 2021 14: 23
      What's your consensus?
      What is this? !!
      Do what they say and praise the king!
  13. +5
    14 February 2021 14: 15
    In short, improvements in the country are not part of the Kremlin's plans.
  14. -8
    14 February 2021 14: 17
    Everyone has mistakes. Only betrayal was under Gorbat and then under Yeltsin. And to reproach Putin that he hasn't done anything in 20 years is the height of cynicism. I come across people who in the 90s were still either small or from the rich. So they are now the one and the loudest yelling that down with Putin. Only these dollars ... would not even understand what could be with Russia. For them, as I heard from them, she is a rash. I will kill ... and. Excuse me for a sharp boil.
    1. +7
      14 February 2021 14: 37
      in your opinion, those 20 million citizens are at the poverty line, all one "dollar ... with a kill ... and" ??? ...
      well, who are you in that case ??? ...
  15. -1
    14 February 2021 14: 17
    Yes, yes, oh poor, how tired he is to take care of the people, and the leshik and the pandemic are to blame for everything laughing hand face
  16. +2
    14 February 2021 14: 21
    [quote] ... people are unhappy with the deterioration of their living standards in the context of the economic crisis caused by the pandemic, and blame the leadership for their troubles. In his opinion, this always happens when the population begins to live worse than before [/ quote]

    Philosophical analysis ... Yes. Marcus Aurelius was unlucky with people and era.
  17. +2
    14 February 2021 14: 29
    Deceiving king
    1. +7
      14 February 2021 14: 46
      All this was done by a pandemic, gasoline at 50, vegetable oil at 150 ...
      Interpreter shooter, does anyone else believe his words. The rise in sugar prices was stopped, and now they write that there is a shortage of sugar.
  18. +1
    14 February 2021 14: 32
    After reading, I would like to paraphrase the famous phrase from the movie "Seryozha":
    -Uncle Vova, are you ........?
  19. AB
    +2
    14 February 2021 14: 33
    He offered to talk with Putin via social network

    It seems that in the States, only idiots live. After Trump, everyone will never understand that the President of a normal country does not use social networks to communicate. Musk has enough dough to try to negotiate an interview with the Kremlin press service.
  20. -10
    14 February 2021 14: 36
    And I agree with Putin. The people sang praises to him in the kitchens for the growth of territories, but as soon as life became worse, they began to accuse all mortal sins. The people for the most part work with their heads, to produce chips with the complexity of billions of transistors, for example, they do not know how, but they want to live at the level of Singapore or Norway. And of course, if Putin is replaced, then the people will immediately start producing and selling the most complex intellectual product, a second after the change.
    But that's okay, if only they wouldn't change from patriots to whiners in a second.
  21. -1
    14 February 2021 14: 36
    Putin believes that people are unhappy with the deterioration of their living standards in the context of the economic crisis caused by the pandemic and blame the leadership for their troubles. In his opinion, this always happens when the population begins to live worse than before.
    This is the share of the bosses. There is nothing you can do about it.


    After all, the ungrateful people were caught.
    But WE -

    wassat
  22. -2
    14 February 2021 14: 43
    Protests in support of Alexei Navalny took place against the backdrop of Russian irritation caused by quarantine measures against the pandemic

    Suppose there is always a reason, the more we have them, the top ones are not "idle", there is a list of questions and problems.
    It's just problematic to tie up a disaster under this business ... the wrong caliber is a problem.
  23. +9
    14 February 2021 14: 51
    GDP, you have lost feedback from society. Support for the bulk in fact + - 1 percent - a statistical error) But your support, in my opinion, is 70 percent. You do not know what is going on among the people - fatigue from your Brezhnev stagnation, empty promises, doing nothing for us to rise out of poverty!
    1. 0
      14 February 2021 16: 41
      Quote: sir Galant




      1. -4
        14 February 2021 16: 55
        Yes, no, I have no strength to endure (at the elections this year the people will express their opinion. It is a pity that they will count as according to Stalin ...
  24. -5
    14 February 2021 15: 09
    To Putin's Plach Yaroslavny, I would like to receive an answer from him:



    For a year, after all, he did not hit a finger on a finger to improve the life of Russians !!! am
  25. +2
    14 February 2021 15: 17
    Go away! Got it already!
  26. -4
    14 February 2021 15: 43
    Yet he knows how to subtly dissemble. And he seems to have spoken, and it seems that what has been said is taking place, but he decided to keep silent about the main reasons.
    In addition, it is absolutely obvious that the bulk does not drown for bulk. He is the tenth thing.
  27. +4
    14 February 2021 16: 47
    Take and steal military service in the SA from the insurance experience of millions of soldiers, sergeants, foremen. This is of course Navalny stole. And then they show me some kind of oligarchic Pokemon who is building a hotel for 100 lard for 15 visitors. And Navalny forgot that too.
  28. +6
    14 February 2021 16: 49
    It was so reported to him that we have protests from a pandemic. And so, all is well, beautiful marquise.
    Н
    1. -9
      14 February 2021 16: 57
      He will leave and who will come?
      1. -1
        14 February 2021 23: 58
        - "Volodya, are you getting on my knees with me?"
      2. +1
        15 February 2021 16: 11
        About the picture. You shouldn't have sweated over the text. It was enough to draw a rod in the hand of Joseph Vissarionich. Without words.
  29. +1
    14 February 2021 17: 40
    You read it, and you cannot understand.
    What the hell are rallies? About what!?. For what...
    In my NW, for example, they stopped paying wages on time.
    So what? Let's call Putin? Although, of course it would be nice.
    But he does not favor our plant. Looks like the status is not the same.
    The meetings are carried out either by those who have absolutely nothing to do, or those who have been paid for it.
    After all, Comrade Putin does not have the ability to run each specific plant ...
    1. -4
      14 February 2021 19: 50
      petrol cutter good How is the weather in Crimea? Which Putin returned! Yes
      Fighters with the "regime" you are simply decay, a micro number within the statistical error, just screaming and STINKING. Except as "whistle" no buoy (float attached to the bottom) can not. Get together already in a bunch to swat you with one "fly swatter". laughing
      1. 0
        14 February 2021 20: 02
        The weather is disgusting for the Crimea.
        I will say more than that, frosts of up to five to seven degrees are planned for the whole week.
        How do you plan to dilute / smear the sealant under such conditions on the "Kometa?" I ask "bump"?! ..
        I don't know, "father" answers me ....
        1. 0
          14 February 2021 20: 11
          I love Crimea very much, my roots are from there, I served there ... I plan to become a Crimean in seven years! The son will just grow up to Nakhimov Sevastopol. How can I send My blood alone? Will go with him Yes All the best to you hi We live in the same Country, and Putin's merit in this is HUGE!
          1. +2
            15 February 2021 21: 07
            Thank you very much Comrade Hunter for the kind words.
            Good luck. And all the best.
        2. 0
          15 February 2021 14: 58
          Well, not all of us are the only ones to bask in the Southern Urals. laughing 5-7 degrees, it's about nothing, my first-grader granddaughter doesn't even wear mittens, she says it's warm. hi
          1. +2
            15 February 2021 20: 52
            Duc you take into account the humidity, however. At sea, 5 feels like 11. Such is the "squiggle".
            Here, at zero, the pneumatic tool is covered with frost.
  30. -4
    14 February 2021 17: 58
    I do not blame VV Putin for my troubles, but myself. There are no exit situations, so somewhere I have not finished! But I like him.
    1. nnm
      +1
      14 February 2021 19: 43
      Colleague, let me ask you a question - what do you think, what functions and obligations does the state have in matters of domestic politics and economics?
      1. -1
        14 February 2021 22: 34
        The answer to your question can be observed daily.
        Clinton stroked Monica's ass and went to court
        (President of a superpower!), During which he lost
        all my money - the last hearing was in debt
        to their lawyers. Since Hillary desired to become
        a senator (and they have a senator to live in the state),
        it was necessary to buy a house (they never
        was not - all my life in residences). Barely scraped
        8 million and bought a house ala 1800, and next to it for 25 million.
        each, settled without a year a week prime minister of Ukraine
        Lazarenko and his assistant (!) Tell me it was long ago?
        Here's fresher - Trump's vice president Pence, who could
        with one finger to "overthrow" the President of a superpower,
        lost his position and residence automatically, and his
        he never had a home and a salary of $ 20 thousand
        per month. Today while he lives with his brother (Sands with Soloviev
        giggle - do not pay attention). Trump, Macron, Merkel,
        May, Johnson, Natanhu (all presidents of the nuclear powers) -
        Everyone who is not lazy kicks their feet every day - they just have time
        dodge. But how - took up the buzz - let's work -
        And the opponent is breathing in the back of the head! Nobody caught them on the street,
        did not force him into a chair, did not handcuff him to the gallery
        (70 candidates for elections in the same Ukraine!) And work?
        What did you, infection, have breakfast today? And who did you talk to on the phone?
        Well, what did you bastard do there? Get it on the right and get it on the left!
        Well, as with Trump - free, that's enough, I've already worked - my hands are not
        have grown from that place!
        So they will have the functions and obligations of the state
    2. -2
      14 February 2021 20: 12
      That's right - there is always a way out.
      Even if you are eaten, you have two choices!
      1. +1
        14 February 2021 20: 43
        As in that anecdote about two ways. We tried to eat, but a horse in "gray apples" always ran past and sometimes I saddled it. We will not die alive.
  31. +3
    15 February 2021 10: 05
    the reason for the participation of many of them in mass actions has nothing to do with this opposition politician.


    That's right .. People came out against Putin, not for Navalny ..
  32. -4
    15 February 2021 11: 43
    Fatigue should not be from the Coron virus, but from Putin's leadership.
    His friends have become billionaires, and the Russian people are poor. I do not want to judge Navalny's personality, the question is whether the facts about Putin's theft are true. Navalny's film was not limited to the castle.
    Putin has been publicly called a liar and a thief 10 times. Why not go to court then?
    However, there are fears that the public will begin to deeply research the origins of billions of him and his friends.
  33. 0
    15 February 2021 13: 28
    Interesting people still sit on VO - most are happy with the success of the military-industrial complex, etc. news, but as soon as news about Putin and Navalny comes out, immediately Putin is a thief, the authorities are swindlers and thieves. Excuse me, but what do you think that the defense industry, the army, the navy are somehow developing on their own? Tell me more, in spite of the authorities :)
  34. 0
    15 February 2021 14: 53
    Too much honor for this Musk, let him tweet with Biden. lol
  35. 0
    15 February 2021 16: 07
    What a "genius" interpretation. Blame for everything, it turns out Navalny (three devils in his liver) and ..... Pandemic ?! Did you miss anything? - "Glorious Russians were surprised here ..."
  36. 0
    15 February 2021 22: 16
    After all, Orthodoxy-autocracy-nationality is deeply rooted in the brains!
    Well, that is, Orthodoxy with the nationality somehow weathered, but about autocracy - nothing.
    It would seem that there is oligarchic capitalism in the country, and any sane person understands that the conditional first person has very conditional power, but the majority of the population pin all their hopes on Mr. Putin: some believe that they will protect and warm them, others - that it is worth knocking it off, and at once the goodness of the air will come and the rivers of milk splash between the jelly banks!
    Kindergarten!
    That is why Navalny's videos are designed for preschoolers ...
  37. -1
    16 February 2021 09: 41
    There were protests in the 90s, When hard workers took to the streets! And at this time Lodyrs are taking to the streets.
  38. +1
    16 February 2021 10: 12
    The fall in income began before the pandemic began, probably enough to LIE. Most of the people came out against poverty, stupidity and lawlessness of officials from the very top. They saw this bulk in the coffin, while the people see how a handful of oligarchs, officials, and other people with low social responsibility who are close to the body live and grow fat. How does a simple RUSSIAN CITIZEN live for 12-15 thousand rubles, how does a pensioner live. In this speech of the president there is one more phrase: "I know everything," well, if you know everything, why you don't do it, why people interrupt on macaroshkas. In the country with the highest reserves of natural resources (40% of the world), there are people below the subsistence level, where then is your professionalism and ability to work and create. it turns out it is not?

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