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Sweden wants to put pressure on Berlin and force him to abandon SP-2

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Björn Söder, a member of the Riksdag from the opposition Swedish Democrats party, has sent an inquiry to his country's foreign minister, Ann Linde, regarding Nord Stream 2. He and some other politicians in Sweden want to put pressure on Berlin and force him to abandon the SP-2 project.


In his address, the deputy asks what steps Stockholm intends to take to persuade the FRG to stop the construction of Nord Stream 2. The Swedish parliamentarian believes that the pipeline under construction poses a threat to European security, making the EU countries dependent on fuel supplied from the Russian Federation. Söder refers to the statement of the European Commissioner for Climate and Energy Miguel Arias Cañete, who in 2016 called the construction of Nord Stream 2 a “risky project”.

At the same time, the Swedish deputy understands that the fight against the Russian gas pipeline is difficult and troublesome, because Berlin categorically refuses to stop the implementation of this project.

Earlier, on February 12, two Senators Jim Risch and Gene Shaheen, representing two rival American political parties, together called on newly elected US President Joseph Biden to impose new sanctions on Nord Stream 2.
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  1. Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 14 February 2021 11: 55
    +18
    And the crush has grown to put pressure on Germany ?!
    1. Destiny
      Destiny 14 February 2021 12: 10
      +31
      The very news "In Sweden they want to put pressure on Berlin" sounds like an anecdote.
      1. askort154
        askort154 14 February 2021 12: 52
        +10
        Destiny ...The very news "In Sweden they want to put pressure on Berlin" sounds like an anecdote.

        Like Karl-12 on Hitler! crying hi
      2. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 14 February 2021 13: 03
        +3
        Quote: Destiny
        The very news "In Sweden they want to put pressure on Berlin" sounds like an anecdote.

        good drinks

        Through the streets of the Elephant they drove,
        Apparently, for show -
        It is known that Elephants in wonder with us -
        There were crowds of onlookers behind the Elephant.
        From nowhere, meet Moska them.
        Seeing the Elephant, well, to him to rush,
        And bark, and scream, and tear,
        Well, and climbs into a fight with him.
        "Neighbor, stop shame,"
        The mongrel says to her, "Do you mess with the elephant?"
        Look, you're wheezing, and he goes to himself.
        Forward
        And he doesn't notice your bark at all. "

        "Eh, eh! - Pug answers her. -
        That's what gives me the spirit,
        That I, absolutely without a fight,
        I can get into big bully.
        Let the dogs say:
        "Ay, pug! Know she is strong,
        What barks at the Elephant! "


        laughing
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 14 February 2021 18: 34
          -2
          In life, nothing just happens. Why would a Swedish MP and some other Swedish politicians suddenly get excited? Surely they were puzzled and pressured (and paid?) By the biggest "friends" of SP-2 - the Americans. Now the Swedes have a super task: to put pressure on Berlin in order to force him to abandon the SP-2. But it is unlikely that the Swedes will succeed: since the time of Charles XII, the Swedes have not been able to "pressure"! laughing laughing laughing
    2. Snail N9
      Snail N9 14 February 2021 12: 12
      -24%
      The press grew back. But the "counter pressure", something grows badly. Not only that, actually, we alone are now pulling this pipe, when no one knows when we stretch it, even after stretching it, it is still unknown how much it will be loaded. In any case, this project is already unprofitable, and it is not known whether it will be recouped at all.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 12: 41
        +2
        Quote: Snail N9
        The press grew back. But the "counter pressure", something grows badly. Not only that, actually, we alone are now pulling this pipe, when no one knows when we stretch it, even after stretching it, it is still unknown how much it will be loaded. In any case, this project is already unprofitable, and it is not known whether it will be recouped at all.

        Well yes. That in the government, that in Gazprom, only fools are sitting, all the super-brains have gathered here, and everyone pretends to be D'Artagnan.
        I go nuts, dear editors, from the conceit of some.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 14 February 2021 13: 16
          -1
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          That in the government, that in Gazprom, only fools are sitting, all the super-brains have gathered here, and everyone pretends to be D'Artagnan.
          I go nuts, dear editors, from the conceit of some.

          To some extent, you are right, but it is difficult to compare them with D'Artagnan, for he acted with a sword, not with his brains.
          Well, the editorial staff is like a childish complaint, they still don't understand what you want.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 13: 21
            -2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            To some extent, you are right, but it is difficult to compare them with D'Artagnan, for he acted with a sword, not with his brains.

            This is from an anecdote: "All the" glinomes ", and I am D'Artagnan".
            That is, when a person considers everyone around him narrow-minded, and himself - the most-most. Smart, handsome, talented, etc.
            Well, the editorial staff is like a childish complaint, they still don't understand what you want.

            About the editorial office is an old Internet meme. It means the extreme degree of surprise at the absurdity of the act.
            1. Mitroha
              Mitroha 14 February 2021 13: 30
              -1
              What the hell is an Internet meme, they said so at school when there was no Internet at all
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 13: 34
                -3
                Quote: Mitroha
                What the hell is an Internet meme, they said so at school when there was no Internet at all

                Exactly! I looked and found this anecdote:
                "Hello dear editors!
                The girl Masha, 7 years old, is writing to you. When I read your newspaper, I .... dear editors !! ... "
                1. dauria
                  dauria 14 February 2021 18: 15
                  0
                  Hello dear edition!


                  "Dear transmission!
                  On Saturday, almost crying
                  The whole Kanatchikova dacha ..... "

                  "Dear editors ..." was less frequent.
        2. kamakama
          kamakama 14 February 2021 13: 32
          -3
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Well yes. That in the government, that in Gazprom, only fools are sitting, all the super-brains have gathered here, and everyone pretends to be D'Artagnan.

          Regardless of how much gas will be pumped and whether it will swing at all, one person will definitely get money - the pipe builder. If the position remains as it is now, he will be the only one to write it down to his profit. And the nation (and not only one, there are many sponsors) will pay "national treasure"
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 13: 39
            -4
            Quote: kamakama
            If the position remains as it is now,

            What is the position?
            1. kamakama
              kamakama 14 February 2021 16: 41
              +1
              Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
              What is the position?

              That the pipe is being built with a creak, but whether it will be allowed to use it at full capacity is a question of big politics, which is terribly far from the economy
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 16: 49
                -1
                Quote: kamakama
                That the pipe is being built with a creak, but whether it will be allowed to use it at full capacity is a question of big politics, which is terribly far from the economy

                Politics and economics are inextricably linked, because one cannot exist without the other.
                Since they are building, and they do not refuse, then all interested parties need it.
                1. dauria
                  dauria 14 February 2021 18: 17
                  0
                  Since they are building, and they do not refuse, then all interested parties need it.


                  If they interfere with construction, then the interested parties need it. After all "Politics and economics are inextricably linked wink "
                  Germany and Russia are not the only countries on the planet.
                2. kamakama
                  kamakama 15 February 2021 18: 16
                  0
                  Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                  Politics and economics are inextricably linked, because one cannot exist without the other.
                  Since they are building, and they do not refuse, then all interested parties need it.

                  Eh, if there were only two interested persons. There are at least 4 of them - Russia, the USA, Germany and the EU. It is not beneficial for at least one stakeholder directly, and for another, it is indirectly disadvantageous.
        3. BecmepH
          BecmepH 14 February 2021 16: 22
          +1
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Gazprom, only fools are sitting,

          And what, isn't it? They are thrown, thrown, and they build and build for our money. Smart? Yes? And the plans for the next "stream" These have not really completed, and already another planned. A smart one will not step on the same rake ...
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 16: 46
            -4
            Quote: BecmepH
            And what, isn't it? They are thrown, thrown, and they build and build for our money. Smart? Yes? And the plans for the next "stream" These have not really completed, and already another planned. A smart one will not step on the same rake ...

            Did it ever occur to you that you simply do not know something? Why are you rushing to conclusions? Only if for fun, because it will not affect your life anyway.
            What a brave pug. Lick the mirror.
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 15 February 2021 17: 43
              0
              Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
              Quote: BecmepH
              And what, isn't it? They are thrown, thrown, and they build and build for our money. Smart? Yes? And the plans for the next "stream" These have not really completed, and already another planned. A smart one will not step on the same rake ...

              Did it ever occur to you that you simply do not know something? Why are you rushing to conclusions? Only if for fun, because it will not affect your life anyway.
              What a brave pug. Lick the mirror.

              Do you know a lot?)) So share it! And if there is nothing to share, do not be clever.
              When there are no arguments, or a person ... is not smart, he becomes personal ..
              Do not try to offend, but share your knowledge. Or nothing to share?))
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 February 2021 08: 17
                0
                Do you know a lot?)) So share it! And if there is nothing to share, do not be clever.
                When there are no arguments, or a person ... is not smart, he becomes personal ..
                Do not try to offend, but share your knowledge. Or nothing to share?))

                So I do not draw any heartbreaking conclusions. Unlike local geniuses who are ready to describe the entire fauna of the Earth on the fly of a fly.
        4. Hypertension
          Hypertension 14 February 2021 17: 16
          +1
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          only fools sit in Gazprom

          Gazprom is not stupid about its salaries and bonuses. As for the rest ...
          Digit of the day: one Apple today costs 22 Gazprom or 1116 Aeroflot
          The total capitalization of the entire Russian stock market is approximately $ 647 billion. That is, the entire "big" Russian economy costs the same as one of the departments of one of the large international corporations.

          Do you understand what this means? On the scale of the global economy, we are natives with glass beads sitting naked on the ocean shore. White people exchange scraps from their table for black muck that flows from the bowels of our earth, and try to stay away from us - not out of fear, but partly out of disgust, and simply because they have more important things to do.

          We look at their lives from afar and ... we feel our superiority because our stone axes are the sharpest, shamans are wise, and distant ancestors once overwhelmed a mammoth.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 17: 34
            -2
            Gazprom is not stupid about its salaries and bonuses. As for the rest ...
            Digit of the day: one Apple today costs 22 Gazprom or 1116 Aeroflot

            Twenty-two million is not a number, but a number. Respect the Russian language. Explain how a number is different from a number?
            People may well live without iPhones and Tesla electric vehicles, but they will never be able to live without gas.
            If renewable energy sources were as effective as some think, then energy would be extracted only from them, but for some reason, nuclear power plants and gas thermal power plants are still being built, not to mention coal ones.
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 14 February 2021 17: 39
              0
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              People may well live without iPhones and Tesla electric vehicles, but they will never be able to live without gas.

              A third of Russia is not supplied with gas. How do they live?
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 17: 49
                +2
                Quote: Hyperion
                A third of Russia is not supplied with gas. How do they live?

                If you are guided by your reasoning, solely due to the production of Apple and Google.
                1. Hypertension
                  Hypertension 14 February 2021 18: 11
                  -2
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  If you are guided by your reasoning, solely due to the production of Apple and Google.

                  Well, if you are guided by your reasoning, then they do not live at all ...
                  1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 18: 21
                    -2
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    Well, if you are guided by your reasoning, then they do not live at all ...

                    It makes no sense to be guided by my reasoning. Since they live for themselves, and they capitalize Apple and Google to one place.
                    1. Hypertension
                      Hypertension 14 February 2021 18: 28
                      0
                      Then, in your opinion, one cannot live without gas, then one can live for oneself ... If gas is so vital to Europe, then why would they be so fussy about the same SP-2? Moreover, Sweden, which is not a NATO member.
            2. Hypertension
              Hypertension 14 February 2021 18: 10
              -1
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Twenty-two million is not a number, but a number. Respect the Russian language. Explain how a number is different from a number?

              What's 22 million? And yes, please explain, if you please, what is the difference between a number and a number in this context.
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 18: 42
                0
                Here is your comment
                Gazprom is not stupid about its salaries and bonuses. As for the rest ...
                Digit of the day: one Apple today costs 22 Gazprom or 1116 Aeroflot

                Or was it not you who wrote it, but a quote?
                A number is a sign, and a number is a value, a quantitative characteristic.
                I hope the difference between the letter and the word is not necessary?
                1. Hypertension
                  Hypertension 14 February 2021 18: 49
                  -2
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Or was it not you who wrote it, but a quote?

                  This is the title of the article. And in the context that it is given, finding fault with the difference between a number and a number is out of place.
                  1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 18: 57
                    0
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    This is the title of the article. And in the context that it is given, finding fault with the difference between a number and a number is out of place.

                    This is not a nit-picking, but a fair comment.
                    Let's imagine what famous expressions would look like if the concepts of "letter" and "word" had no meaning.
                    You can't erase a letter from a song.
                    Gave the letter hold on.
                    The letter is not a sparrow.
                    It's the same with numbers and numbers. Who will we become if we neglect such elementary concepts?
                    1. Hypertension
                      Hypertension 14 February 2021 19: 05
                      -1
                      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      Let's imagine what famous expressions would look like if the concepts of "letter" and "word" had no meaning.

                      You drove somewhere to the wrong steppe. About "the word and the letter" is not at all appropriate. Some kind of fierce offtopic.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 14 February 2021 13: 08
        0
        Quote: Snail N9
        In any case, this project is already unprofitable, and it is not known whether it will be recouped at all.

        I didn't know that you were already working as the chief economist of Gazprom ... wassat Maybe you can draw a few numbers to prove "already unprofitable"?
        By the way, they said the same thing about SP-1. And how, is it half full? Breaks records for daily supplies. And about the "Power of Siberia", which "will never pay off" ... But what is it, the Crimean bridge is the decoration of Mosfilm ... And "Sputnik-V" is a fake, what can Russia do there? I’m not going to correct your paradigm, but you write convincingly ... You don’t need slogans from the tape or Novaya Gazeta ...
        1. kamakama
          kamakama 14 February 2021 16: 45
          +3
          The payback of the project is directly related to the price of energy carriers. Predicting prices for 20-30 years in advance (namely, such a potential payback period) is a thankless and meaningless task, as the past year has shown. With unpredictable fluctuations (epidemics, elections, green lobby, etc.), any analytics can be thrown into the trash by 2-3 times
      3. frruc
        frruc 14 February 2021 13: 20
        -5
        The power industry in Sweden is more advanced and independent than in the Federal Republic of Germany. In addition to nuclear energy, Sweden ranks first in the production of energy using natural factors_ wind, hydropower and waste timber and waste processing. Smart heating of the housing stock is also used. And in the near future this factor will only grow, so there is someone to look up to. It's another matter whether Germany is ready for this.
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 13: 41
          0
          Quote: frruc
          The power industry in Sweden is more advanced and independent than in the Federal Republic of Germany.

          Wow! Why then is Germany the flagship of the EU economy and not Sweden?
          1. frruc
            frruc 14 February 2021 15: 40
            +1
            I said about energy, not the state's GDP, do not confuse.
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 15: 41
              +1
              Quote: frruc
              I said about energy, not the state's GDP, do not confuse.

              Are these indicators not related in any way?
      4. Brturin
        Brturin 14 February 2021 13: 28
        +2
        Quote: Snail N9
        In any case, this project is already unprofitable, and it is not known whether it will be recouped at all.

        recently they finally completed the Southern Gas Corridor - Azerbaijan - Italy - 3500 km, $ 40 billion, 16 billion cubic meters, which the guys threw away money ...
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 14 February 2021 12: 19
      +2
      At the same time, the Swedish deputy understands that the fight against the Russian gas pipeline is a difficult and troublesome business,

      What a stubborn Swede. No wonder, only on the Swedish step-ladder, above, it says "Stop!" winked
      1. prior
        prior 14 February 2021 12: 24
        -2
        For the environmental safety of Kamchatka, I propose to use the territory of Sweden instead of the Kura landfill.
    4. Prisoner
      Prisoner 14 February 2021 12: 47
      +6
      If Germany abandons the SP-2, then over time the German pressure will grow for many. Having recklessly abandoned nuclear energy, they are firmly hooked on the "gas hook". Now, abandoning Russian gas is a direct road to an increase in the cost of production, an increase in tariffs. In a word, the role of the EU overseer will become overwhelming. And then France will immediately jump out of the corner with an offer of its services in this role. winked
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 14 February 2021 13: 28
        0
        Quote: Captive
        Having recklessly abandoned nuclear energy, they are firmly hooked on the "gas hook".

        "Gas hook" he is on either side of the stick, on the one Russia, on the other the United States with its shale. But you can't get away from the hook if you don't have your own gas. But whose hook will fit the throat the most is for the Swedes to choose, although the bait on the hook looks prettier from the state people, but it is just bait (like bait, like cheese in a mousetrap).
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 14 February 2021 15: 01
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine

          "Gas hook" it is on either side.
          LNG production in the world
          "Gas hooks"there is a LOT in the world ...
          Choose the "bait to taste" good
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 14 February 2021 22: 02
            0
            Quote: cat Rusich
            Choose the "bait to taste"

            And what of this is more environmentally friendly for the Europeans, so that the "carbon footprint" is less and the price does not go off scale. Last year, Klaus-Dieter Borchardt, vice president of the European Commission's Directorate General for Energy, warned that all gas suppliers to the European market will be tested for the intensity of carbon dioxide emissions “throughout the supply chain, taking into account, among other things, methane leaks and gas flaring in countries extraction ". The Qataris are already advertising that their new capacities will have a carbon capture and storage (CCS) system, but about the states for now ... The same Borchardt, believes that LNG production in Australia and the USA is accompanied by twice as much carbon dioxide emissions as production in Norway and Russia of gas supplied to Europe through pipes
            1. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 14 February 2021 22: 08
              +2
              Quote: BrTurin
              Quote: cat Rusich
              Choose the "bait to taste"

              And which of this is more ecological for the Europeans,
              the donkey turns the millstone
              Maybe this version of "green energy" ... good
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 14 February 2021 13: 29
        +3
        France!?
        Is it with the day before yesterday's nuclear power plant construction technologies?
        So their kWh will be 5-7 times more expensive than ours, since no one in the world can any longer provide services for the disposal of nuclear waste from nuclear energy, and for us this is an inexhaustible source of raw materials for obtaining MOX fuel!
        Moreover, we can still abandon the mining and enrichment of Uranium, although we will receive plutonium in tons.
      3. Terenin
        Terenin 14 February 2021 14: 45
        +3
        Quote: Captive
        And then France will immediately jump out of the corner with an offer of its services in this role.

        SchA, because of your post, in Poland many will have a heart attack. They have already broken their navel, proving the United States that they are the most loyal in Europe.
    5. Ros 56
      Ros 56 14 February 2021 12: 56
      +2
      I took it straight off my tongue, but what to do. fellow
  2. Evil543
    Evil543 14 February 2021 11: 56
    +4
    They just envy. The branch does not go to them.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 14 February 2021 11: 57
    +3
    Sweden wants to put pressure on Berlin and force him to abandon SP-2

    And where do the local syavki go?
    1. aars
      aars 14 February 2021 12: 06
      +4
      It's about nothing at all!
      The _Oppositional_ deputy made a request - so it is quite possible to wipe off his request!
      Okay, we discussed and decided to push.
      Also - how much?
      To make a statement - they will also wipe themselves off ...
      Yes, this request is about nothing, so-so news.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 14 February 2021 12: 47
        0
        They can, they can inflate an elephant from a fly!
        That's why there are all sorts of media, what would inflate our ears with all sorts of nonsense.
    2. cniza
      cniza 14 February 2021 12: 30
      +5
      Quote: rocket757

      And where do the local syavki go?


      Apparently someone strongly "asks" them ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 14 February 2021 12: 46
        +1
        Hi soldier
        They could have asked / indicated, or they themselves could have been "inspired"! After all, there are all sorts of ... years of brainwashing leave a noticeable mark, noticeable distortions in the perception of people.
        1. cniza
          cniza 14 February 2021 12: 49
          +4
          Good time! hi

          And what could arouse them so, especially in Germany's interested actions, even if our boats are looking for them, they are better at it ...
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 14 February 2021 13: 39
            0
            Best of all, they hear the feasting of herring on seaweed cans - that's the only thing the Swedes have learned (but we can't! laughing ) over decades of chasing Russian submarines
            1. cniza
              cniza 14 February 2021 16: 14
              +2
              Quote: hydrox
              Best of all, they hear the feasting of herring on seaweed banks - only this the Swedes have learned


              You also need to be able ... lol
    3. Prisoner
      Prisoner 14 February 2021 12: 51
      +2
      Do not go to the fortune-teller, the employer ordered from across the Atlantic. And surely this deputy is not the only one who grunts at the American table with the curtains drawn and the doors closed.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 14 February 2021 13: 23
        0
        Phantom pains, how many years have passed, but the anger has remained.
        All sorts of small, and live ...
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 14 February 2021 13: 43
        0
        Quote: Captive
        Do not go to the fortuneteller, the employer ordered from across the Atlantic.

        No, it's just business and nothing else. The employer shoved the "greenery" into the deputy's pocket, for the sake of which any deputy will broadcast - "Give American shale gas!"
  4. BAI
    BAI 14 February 2021 12: 09
    -11%
    God help you. I support. Having brought immediate benefits now, SP-2 will bring Russia incomparably greater damage in the strategic perspective.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 14 February 2021 13: 11
      +1
      Quote: BAI
      Having brought immediate benefits now, SP-2 will bring Russia incomparably greater damage in the strategic perspective.

      Can you list it? These are the "biggest damage"?
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 14 February 2021 13: 44
        +1
        Never mind: it just continues the farting of Swedish herring scenting the end of the Norg gas reserves in the North Sea.
      2. BAI
        BAI 14 February 2021 14: 23
        0
        Can I list it?

        For simple.
        1. Waste of unprocessed, non-renewable strategic resources. Those. devouring the heritage of descendants it is necessary to trade in finished products, not raw materials. Or are you against?).
        2. Continued stagnation in the development of the domestic economy, science and technology - why do you need your own when you have money to buy someone else's? The offshore sections of the main gas pipeline are pulled by the Romanians and the Swiss - one is not the most economically developed country, the other has no access to the sea at all. And Russia depends on them. From Romania and Switzerland. There are also no own technologies for offshore production - everything is not just imported, NATO.
        3. The incentive remains to sit on the oil and gas needle.
        4. Confidence will be strengthened (it already exists) that Europe is doomed to sit on Russian gas and therefore will make concessions on economic and political issues, which will subsequently lead to an "unexpected" reaction of Europe to yet another stupidity of the Russian leadership and losses that are much higher than the benefits received from the sale of gas. After the war on 08.08.08/2/XNUMX, officials proudly said that the West could not oppose anything to the Russian Federation. But the West has learned its lessons, our officials have not. Who can predict what we will get after SP-XNUMX? MG is no more and will not be. What do we oppose? Will we supply rocket engines to the States in increased volumes or will we hand over the territory to China?
        Is it enough?
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 14 February 2021 14: 35
          0
          Quote: BAI
          Is it enough?

          Absolutely not reliable ... can you not use slogans?
          The figures are for raw materials and non-raw materials exports. Show how the export of plastics is "falling" (and laughing ), and finally, what the devil is the United States trying to seize completely the RAW MATERIALS LNG market in Europe? How so? What are they doing? Why export raw materials? By the way, they are trying to export crude oil too !!! But like, "this is different", different rules for us?
          1. BAI
            BAI 14 February 2021 18: 10
            0
            By the way, they are trying to export crude oil too !!!

            And this is also a crime. And round timber. Etc.
            But we are talking specifically about gas.
            1. Mountain shooter
              Mountain shooter 14 February 2021 18: 38
              0
              Quote: BAI
              And this is also a crime. And round timber. Etc.
              But we are talking specifically about gas.

              I actually wrote about the United States ... they export gas. Advanced, technological, and so on and so forth ... And oil. wassat
  5. SaLaR
    SaLaR 14 February 2021 12: 09
    +3
    The frog croaked in its swamp ... the wave went ... and the hippopotamus is neither hot nor cold ... Weight categories are too different laughing laughing
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 February 2021 12: 12
    +3
    want to put pressure on Berlin
    Something in the period 2 MV, the Swedes did not even try to put pressure on Germany, moreover, they helped her and refused to help the Scandinavian countries. Today they got crazy in earnest.
    At the same time, the Swedish deputy understands that the fight against the Russian gas pipeline is difficult and troublesome.
    But at the same time it is imperative to blather. Is Greta Thunberg's influence felt? Mixed in a bunch of politics (dependence) and ecology (climate).
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 14 February 2021 13: 49
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Something in the period 2 MV, the Swedes did not even try to put pressure on Germany, moreover, they helped her and refused to help the Scandinavian countries.

      Well, if the Swedish king wanted to betray his niece, the Queen of Norway, to Hitler, then what pressure could there be, but what kind of help came from Sweden to Hitler is a closed topic until now.
  7. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 14 February 2021 12: 17
    +2
    ***
    The Germans do not want to change Nord Stream to Gulfstrom ...
    ***
  8. Pereira
    Pereira 14 February 2021 12: 18
    0
    Is it weak to declare war on Germany?
  9. kit88
    kit88 14 February 2021 12: 20
    +8
    Oh yeah..
    The Swedes, of course, have a lot to do with the SP-2.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 14 February 2021 12: 36
      -1
      They are jealous.
  10. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 February 2021 12: 26
    -4
    The Swedish parliamentarian believes that the pipeline under construction poses a threat to European security, making the EU countries dependent on fuel supplied from the Russian Federation.

    I don't understand, but now the EU countries do not depend on our gas? They do not buy it for Christ's sake, but because they have nowhere to get it cheaper. If there were, then with great pleasure they refused without any hesitation and persuasion.
  11. businessv
    businessv 14 February 2021 12: 26
    0
    Björn Söder, a member of the Riksdag from the opposition Swedish Democrats party, has sent an inquiry to his country's foreign minister, Ann Linde, regarding Nord Stream 2.
    Is it that the minke whales have thrown the cry "democrats of all countries, unite" ?! laughing
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 14 February 2021 13: 16
      +1
      Quote: businessv
      Björn Söder, a member of the Riksdag from the opposition Swedish Democrats party, has sent an inquiry to his country's foreign minister, Ann Linde, regarding Nord Stream 2.
      Is it that the minke whales have thrown the cry "democrats of all countries, unite" ?! laughing

      Most likely, everything is much simpler. This deputy needed to be reminded of himself and the existence of such a party. Here Zhirinovsky, when people forget about him, also comes up with extravagant loud initiatives, purely for the public.
  12. cniza
    cniza 14 February 2021 12: 29
    0
    Sweden wants to put pressure on Berlin and force him to abandon SP-2


    And the crush, that is, how to crush?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 14 February 2021 12: 49
      0
      How can you characterize Swedish politics ???
      She sang along ... but nothing else.
      1. cniza
        cniza 14 February 2021 12: 50
        +2
        But it didn’t sing for sure, we would have dealt with our problems and didn’t climb ...
  13. businessv
    businessv 14 February 2021 12: 31
    -2
    Two Senators Jim Risch and Gene Shaheen, representing two rival American political parties, have together called on newly elected US President Joseph Biden to impose new sanctions on Nord Stream 2.
    Striped gas workers no longer know who to bring suitcases with the dough, so that their interests in Europe will be pushed further! The main crush is now the president! laughing
  14. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 14 February 2021 12: 34
    +4
    At the forum, many are concerned that if the Russian Federation breaks off relations with the EU, where will we get Western technologies from? I want to ask. 1. Since 2014, the EU has not supplied any important technologies to the Russian Federation. 2. Western companies want to cooperate independently of the European authorities, at least for this it was necessary to comply with some conventions. The exceptions are our Baltic neighbors, and ugh on them, no special technologies except for smoking sprat - it is imperceptible there. ... The story with the supply of turbines for the Crimea by Siemens is memorable. Yes, Siemens, together with the authorities of the Russian Federation, danced a ritual dance, but the turbines are in the Crimea, and Siemens has not stopped activity in the Russian Federation. 3. What specific technologies are we talking about? If we are talking about shipbuilding, then the Russian Federation is successfully adopting technologies from South Korea, Europe is not the leader there (construction of Afromax tankers), the same applies to aircraft construction, yes, indeed the dependence was colossal and the construction of MC21 slowed down, but judging by the construction of the first production model , something that was succeeded, replaced, or adopted, or simply stolen. Manufacturing devices such as smartphones, but they still come to us not from Europe, I am sure that if a ban is imposed on their supply from Asia, which I do not believe, then a niche in the Russian market will open up for Russian companies and they will quickly reimburse loss. Yes, of course, ladies' accessories in Europe are out of competition, well, they will buy it through contraband. An example, albeit from a different area. I don’t know why a Kazakh store was opened in our northern town, because there are at least German and Finnish cheeses and sausages in abundance. And none of the authorities particularly bothers them, and by analogy with French bras, things will go well over time. But in the same, in the case of Europe, heating with wood will not be kosher, so the gas from Mordor will frown and so it will come to them ..
  15. Poetry
    Poetry 14 February 2021 12: 36
    +1
    Swedes pressed on the Germans,
    But the Swedes did not have enough cargo.
    The Swedes undermined the "Hans" ...
    They wrapped themselves in leggings.
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 14 February 2021 14: 15
      0
      Evidence of the degradation of political power in Europe on the example of Sweden. Prime Minister Olof Palme was in Sweden. He ruled for a long time, and the people loved him. At this time, the USSR and Sweden had excellent relations, Palme pulled the people of Sweden out of poverty, and a humanitarian socialism appeared in Sweden, but without modern nonsense. Therefore, Palme walked the streets without protection, until a maniac shot him on Sveavegen. At this place, the grateful Swedes did not find anything better than to put a granite boulder and were wrong. Because degradation has begun. Each subsequent ruler was worse than the previous one, and in the end Sweden fell to tolerance, pederastic margins and other abominations that turned the once formidable Swedes into a herd of silly hamsters. who only know how to repeat "sanctions, sanctions" after adults !.
  16. Cowbra
    Cowbra 14 February 2021 12: 41
    +2
    Carlsons ... Make sure that the propeller does not fall off from the strain. Will your whole Swedish family "press"?
  17. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 14 February 2021 12: 54
    +1
    The title, as usual, does not match the content.
  18. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 14 February 2021 12: 55
    +1
    And what about the pressure gathered? Germany will have any more powerful pressure)))
  19. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 February 2021 13: 09
    -2
    laughing Swedish MP: that the pipeline under construction poses a threat to European security, making EU countries dependent on fuel supplied from the Russian Federation. ... There will not be enough gas for everyone (Miller A.) Soon there will be no oil for any money. laughing and they will crawl in front of us, and we do not care in them.

    A joke if cho. laughing

  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 February 2021 13: 15
    -2
    It would be necessary to leave the green mold for at least a month alone with green generation AND NISHTYAK produced exclusively on its basis.  wassat
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 February 2021 13: 24
    -2
    NoTricksZone reports on a need-driven change in German views.
    Berlin is on the brink! Winter blackouts loom as coal plants run 100%, fighting to keep light in the zone without gimmicks. Pierre Gosselin January 28, 2021 Germany is now in the midst of winter. Much of the country has experienced significant snowfall, which means that solar panels are often covered in snow and thus become useless. Even without a snow cover, the cloudy sky that lasts for several weeks does not allow receiving any noticeable solar energy.

    Moreover, this winter there were many long calm periods, and therefore in Germany approx. 30 wind turbines were mostly out of order. In a world 000% dependent on green energy, this would mean almost 100% darkness at home. Https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/achtung-baby-its-cold-outside-germanys-green-energy-fail- rescued-coal-and-gas. Nikita Khrushchev with corn in Siberia sends his friend Angela heartfelt greetings! laughing It seems to me that the Germans will soon begin to genocide their neighbors ... laughing laughing
  22. Rubi0
    Rubi0 14 February 2021 13: 42
    +2
    Is the Ukrainian pipe not a threat? Give up all pipes already. Novatek is already building a shipyard for gas carriers near Murmansk, and the gas will be democratic, and shipbuilders will work
  23. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 February 2021 15: 57
    0
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    laughing Swedish MP: that the pipeline under construction poses a threat to European security, making EU countries dependent on fuel supplied from the Russian Federation. ... There will not be enough gas for everyone (Miller A.) Soon there will be no oil for any money. laughing and they will crawl in front of us, and we do not care in them.

    A joke if cho. laughing

    Hazu is definitely NOT ENOUGH for everyone ... laughing
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 February 2021 16: 01
    +2
    Yesterday, February 13, Ukraine set a new record for electricity imports since the "Maidan", i.e. within its current borders, it has never imported more than it does now. At 20.00 Moscow time, the flow from neighboring countries exceeded 2 GW. And most of it "came" from Russia, deliveries from which exceed the hourly 1 GW for the fourth day in a row. According to Ukrenergo, on February 13 at 20.00, the capacity of electricity flows to Ukraine from neighboring countries was 2,3 GW. The country has not imported so much electricity since the "Maidan". And the largest deliveries came from Russia. The flow capacity was 1,3 GW. From Belarus - 580 MW. From Slovakia - 244 MW. There are no stupid "independent" Ukrainians. They won the world competition for mental retardation.

    I tell you: At the moment there is a special "green" tariff in Ukraine. It is said to be the highest in Europe. The state buys green energy at high prices and sells it to the population and industry at low prices. The nuclear power plant was appointed the last one. They bought electricity from nuclear power plants at one Ukrainian kopeck per kilowatt and sold it for more than the hryvnia. This difference (about 150 times - and this is not a joke!) Was used to compensate for the "green" energy.

    As a result, the Ukrainian nuclear power plants - in fact bankrupts - were unable to take their units out of repair and Ukraine burned coal all autumn. And burned it! Now they buy electricity from the occupying country. laughing
  25. razved
    razved 14 February 2021 16: 12
    +2
    Where are these imperfections? They can't calm down because of the events of two hundred years ago ... "
    1. NF68
      NF68 15 February 2021 17: 31
      0
      Quote: razved
      Where are these imperfections? They can't calm down because of the events of two hundred years ago ... "


      300 years have passed since then. Not 200. But apparently the insult for those kind cuffs still remained.
  26. NF68
    NF68 14 February 2021 17: 01
    +1
    Better to depend on the US for its more expensive LNG?
  27. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 15 February 2021 05: 39
    +1
    Think of yourself as the legacy of Charles 12! Remind them of Poltava?
  28. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 15 February 2021 11: 57
    +2
    We chose the wrong time. It's cold in Germany now. So the Swedes and Americans are going through the forest. More and Japan covered. And soon the polar fox will come to everyone when the Gulf Stream rises. Thank you USA for this ....