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Who saved Moscow in 1941: Siberians or the Far East of General Apanasenko?

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During the war years, a legend began to spread deliberately that Siberians had saved Moscow in 1941. The military secret did not allow then to tell the truth that they were in fact the Far East. Who exactly came up with the idea to call Primorye and Khabarovsk residents "Siberians" is not known for certain. But it cannot be ruled out that this legend about the Siberians was generated by the military mind of General of the Army Joseph Rodionovich Apanasenko, a participant in three wars. And secrecy and conspiracy were then dictated by the situation at the fronts.


Who saved Moscow in 1941: Siberians or the Far East of General Apanasenko?
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In the previous article “Stalin forgave him mate. Who is he: a rebel general and a soldier of the Russian people? " it was said that even before the start of the war, in January 1941, Stalin appointed the legendary Colonel General Joseph Rodionovich Apanasenko as the commander of the Far Eastern Front.

The name of this military leader is practically forgotten today.


Portrait of I.R. Apanasenko. Chongar 6th Cavalry Division: historical collection for the 6th anniversary of the division. Gomel, 1924, p. 45.

However, it was his activity as a military leader that led to the fact that the well-trained, fearless and courageous Apanasenko Far East men stopped the Nazis near Moscow at a moment fatal for the country.

For special and outstanding services to the Motherland, Stalin especially appreciated this man.


Running a little ahead, we note that, according to the assurances of museum workers in Stavropol, during the Great Patriotic War, only one monument was erected - a monument of federal significance. Moreover, it was built on the personal order of Stalin. This monument-mausoleum was erected in three days in 1943 on the grave of General of the Army Joseph Rodionovich Apanasenko. So why did this general deserve such special honors?

A secret operation under the code "Siberians"?


However, everything is in order.

It was 1941 a year.

When it became clear from the reports of Soviet intelligence that Japan would attack the USSR only after the defeat of Moscow, it was decided to urgently transfer troops from the Far Eastern Front to the center of the country to save the capital.

Recall that the first military echelon with troops from the Far Eastern Front left for the West on June 29, 1941.

And in total, from June 22 to December 5, 1941, 12 rifle rifles were urgently transferred to the western regions of the USSR from the Trans-Baikal and Far Eastern fronts, 5 tank and one motorized division. Their average staffing reached almost 92% of the regular number: about 123 thousand soldiers and officers, almost 2200 guns and mortars, more than 2200 light tanks, 12 thousand cars and 1,5 thousand tractors and tractors.

The Japanese General Staff was well aware of the extremely limited capacity of the Trans-Siberian Railway. That is why there they did not really believe the reports about the alleged displacement of Russian troops. From the outside it looked absolutely impossible.

Indeed, no one at that time could even imagine how rapid the pace of the transfer of Soviet troops from east to west could be. In fact, the Russians were counting on this implausibility: in the eyes of the enemy, all this should have looked like unrealizable. And the point.

It is generally accepted that the grandiose maneuver began on October 10, 1941, when the first secretary of the Khabarovsk Regional Committee of the CPSU (b) G.A. Borkov sent I.V. A letter to Stalin with a proposal to use at least 10 divisions from the Far East for the defense of Moscow.

However, records in declassified military combat logs (which we will give below) indicate that on October 14, 1941, the Far Eastern divisions were already loaded onto railway echelons. And 10-11 days later, in desperate battles, they began to save our Mother Moscow.

Of course, everything was strictly secret and it took more than one day to prepare.

On October 12, a meeting of I.V. Stalin with the commander of the Far Eastern Fleet, General I.R. Apanasenko, commander-in-chief of the Pacific fleet (Pacific Fleet) Admiral I.S. Yumashev and the first secretary of the Primorsky regional committee of the CPSU (b) N.M. Pegov. It was about the redeployment of troops and artillery from the region to Moscow.

The transfer of troops began in those days under the personal control of Apanasenko.


I.R. Apanasenko. Source: wiki

Ten Far Eastern divisions, along with a thousand tanks and aircraft, were to be sent along the Trans-Siberian Railway near Moscow.

Calculations showed that due to limited throughput, as well as technical capabilities and all sorts of instructions from the People's Commissariat of Railways (NKPS), such a transfer of troops could take several months in general.

Especially when you consider that at the same time along the same Trans-Siberian railway in the opposite direction to the East, industrial equipment and civilians were evacuated from the western regions.

It is clear that it was impossible to extend the transfer of formations for any months.

And it should be admitted that here the domestic railway workers have accomplished a real feat. And with this they, in fact, saved Moscow then.

During that period, violating all kinds of technical regulations and all sorts of restrictions, the actual period of transportation of military formations was reduced by at least half, or even more. And as a result, our Far Eastern divisions traveled across the entire country (that is, through many time zones from east to west) in just 10–20 days.

Trains were then driven in full blackout. They rushed without light signals. And they raced without stopping and at the speed of couriers. Running 800 km a day. Top secret. This is how we transferred reinforcements and fresh forces to Moscow from the Far East not in months, but in just weeks.


Later, even opponents spoke admiringly about this maneuver. For example, the famous German tank commander Heinz Guderian in his a book Memories of a Soldier (1999) wrote:

"These troops are sent to our front with unprecedented speed (echelon after echelon)."

The strategy of Iosif Rodionovich Apanasenko led to the fact that in those very difficult first years of the war, when the fate of the country was literally in the balance, the military forces of aggressive Japan did not dare to invade the Far East.


So, if we take into account the situation in those pre-war and first months of the Great Patriotic War, then General Apanasenko can be safely called one of the most productive commanders of the Far Eastern Front.

Moreover, despite the fact that it was in the very first months of the war from the Far East that a massive movement of Far Eastern troops near Moscow was carried out. But Apanasenko's front was not at all naked. Just the opposite.

At the places of deployment of departing people and equipment, by the efforts of General Apanasenko, new units were immediately created under the same numbers. A program of arming newly created units was deployed based on available resources without the help of the center.

Exercises of troops and (most importantly) controlled leaks of information to the adjacent side were carried out constantly with one goal - to show that the troops in the Far East remained in place. And they did not move anywhere and did not move at all.

Many experts note that this controlled publicity, as an obligatory part of the plan for the conspiratorial movement of troops from the Far East to Moscow, was necessary.

That is why it seems to us quite reasonable also the version that in that situation it was in no way allowed that information leaked to the people that it was the Far East who came to save Moscow. Therefore, we believe, then this very legend about Siberians and fearless Siberian divisions moving to the east was thrown in to camouflage a real march-maneuver.

And I must say that just this controlled leak about purely Siberian divisions was so successful that it took root then, both in human rumor and among enemies. And it still remains in our people's memory.


Although, in fact, this feat to save the heart of Russia (of course, together with the entire country) was then performed by the Far East, trained and transported to the Moscow region by the brave general Joseph Apanasenko.


Iosif Rodionovich Apanasenko. A photo. Source: wiki

And all because he then managed to deceive not only Japanese, but also German intelligence.

Let us recall that throughout 1941 there was a serious skirmish between the Japanese and the Germans on this score.

German intelligence insisted that the Soviet Union was removing divisions from under the noses of the Japanese and sending them directly to the West.

However, Japanese intelligence, for its part, firmly insisted that not a single Soviet division left its places of deployment.

The fact is that Apanasenko's main task at that time was to create the illusion of complete peace and the absence of any movement, both equipment and manpower, among the Japanese. And I must say that Iosif Rodionovich managed to accomplish this masterfully. All his ideas and innovations in this area to mislead the Japanese are worthy of a separate detailed story.

To be honest, it is very difficult to imagine exactly how the events in the Far East would have developed if the Far Eastern Front had been commanded by any other person at that time. Receive an order to deliver troops to Moscow - and send everything without forming anything in return? After all, unauthorized formations were categorically prohibited in those years?

It is clear that the one remaining division with three headquarters of the armies and one headquarters of the front, together with the Border Troops of the NKVD of the USSR, would not be able to defend, but even elementary to observe such an extremely long Far Eastern border then in no way.

That is why experts note that I.R. Apanasenko in this case has a deep statesmanlike mind, military foresight, and most importantly - great courage.


The legend of the Siberians


The controversy about who exactly saved Moscow is still ongoing.

A popular point of view on historical forums is that the Battle of Moscow was won by the so-called “Siberian divisions”.

Those who argue with them are those who, recognizing the contribution of the Siberians to the defeat of the Nazis, recall that at the defensive stage of the Battle of Moscow (September 30 - December 4, 1941), the Germans were worn out by militias and divisions formed in various parts of the country. And the "Siberian" and other fresh divisions beat in December 1941 - April 1942, allegedly already completely bled of the enemy.

Which historian is right?

Let's look at the alignment of ideas offered by the historians of the Great Patriotic War Kirill Alexandrov and Alexei Isaev.

Historian Kirill Alexandrov notes the following:

“In principle, I am ready to agree with those who believe that Siberian divisions saved Moscow.

However, it is necessary to clarify what we are talking about when we talk about the "Siberian divisions".

These are units redeployed mainly from the Asian part of the Soviet Union, from the inner districts, mainly from the Urals, from the Far East.

They began to be actively thrown around Moscow after it became clear that Japan would not oppose the USSR. "

And here is the opinion of the historian Alexei Isaev:

"Siberian divisions" are an invention of the Germans, for whom any person in warm clothes is already a Siberian.

Of course, units from Siberia made their considerable contribution to the defeat of the Germans near Moscow.

Divisions distinguished themselves on the Mozhaisk defense line from Kazakhstan and The Far East.

Throughout 1941, their front was stretched, and there were almost no reinforcements, as well as there were no resources for conducting a long campaign - while in place of one defeated Soviet division, in fact, two came. Including those "Siberian" ones.

Of course, a significant role in this defeat was also played by the fact that the German army at that time was not supplied with the necessary insulated uniforms, and in the cold weapon with summer grease failed. Whereas the Soviet troops were all right with this, including the "Siberians".

Many experts agree that it was the fresh "Siberian" units that drove the German troops away from the capital.

That is, according to the author of many popular science books about the war, cited above, Alexei Isaev, the very term "Siberian divisions" was in general coined by the Germans. It was the Germans who always believed that the turning point in the battle for Moscow was achieved precisely by the transfer of a large number of fresh divisions from the Far East. In addition, for the Fritzes then every person in a sheepskin coat was a Siberian.

But among our people, the glory of the Siberians who won the battle for Moscow is great. So, today, in almost every city that was affected by the war, there are streets named after the Siberian divisions. The older generation was simply convinced that it was the Siberians and the militias who defended Moscow from the Nazis.


However, it is difficult to find out something specific about the Siberian divisions in the Central Archives of the Ministry of Defense or in the memoirs of our military leaders. The word "Siberian" is almost never found there. The documents in the Central Archives are classified. And indefinitely. Presumably, by personal order of Stalin.

Even in the award department, information about the affiliation of servicemen to the Siberian divisions is not indicated.

According to our version, this was done just to mislead the enemy. In order not to reveal the secret of the movement of the Far East. And not to put our Far East at risk of Japan.

Take a look at one declassified document from that time.

It magazine combat operations of the 9th Guards Rifle Division. It describes the period from 06.06.1939 to 27.11.1942. (Archive: TsAMO, Fund: 1066, Inventory: 1, File: 4, List of the beginning of the document in the file: 1. Authors of the document: 9th Guards SD).

The first page of this magazine states:

"On June 6, 1939 in the city of Novosibirsk ... the 78th rifle division was organized."

That is, Siberians?

Further on the same page:

"By order of the NKO in October 1939, the division by rail goes to the city of Khabarovsk and became part of the 2nd OKA."

In other words, are they the Far East?

On July 11, 1941, Colonel Afanasy Pavlantievich Beloborodov, head of the combat training department of the Far Eastern Front (then), was appointed as the commander of this division. (This twice Hero of the Soviet Union (1944, 1945) was born in the village of Akinino-Baklashi, Irkutsk district, Irkutsk province, that is, Siberian by origin. But since 1936 he served in the Far East and defended Moscow with his Far Easterners. In addition, this army general ( 1963) personally wished to be buried with his soldiers from the Far East where they fell - near Moscow). In spirit and in service, Beloborodov is a Far Easterner.

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On September 13 (reported further in the same military journal), the following order was received from the Far Eastern Front:

"78th rifle division to prepare calculations for railway transportation."

On September 14, the division began loading into the railway trains. In total, according to the military journal, this division was loaded into 36 echelons.

The maneuver was implemented due to the fact that on the same day the 78th Rifle Division received a combat order from the Far Eastern Front:

"To redeploy in the direction of Moscow at the disposal of the headquarters of the USSR Supreme Command."

“On October 15-17, divisions were dispatched from the Burlit, Gubarevo and Iman stations. Departure took place at a rate of 12.

Driving through the mountains. Khabarovsk, where the division was stationed until June 13, 1941, there were partial farewell meetings between the commanders and their families.

After a 20-minute stay, military echelons with divisional units rushed westward at courier speed.

Familiar cities and villages of the Far East are behind. Every day to the Red capital of the city of Moscow. "

And on October 27 (that is, just twelve days later) the Far East were already near Moscow.

Here are some more lines from the same military diary:

“On 27-30.10 the division concentrated in the area of ​​the mountains. Istra of the Moscow Region in the frontline zone of the Western Front ”.

On November 4-5, the Far East received an order to attack.

On the next page of the same military journal it is indicated that these

"Fighters like lions attack the enemy."

Since that day, with heavy battles, now advancing, then slightly retreating, our glorious Far Easterners drove the filthy fascists from Moscow.

It is further reported that on November 27, 1941, an order was received from the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR to transform the 78th rifle division into the 9th Guards rifle division.

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“The soldiers and commanders of our division, having received such a large award - the rank of Guardsman, even more and more persistently leaned on the enemy, even more beat the fascist dogs.

They vowed to take revenge on the Nazis for the robbery, abuse and violence of our Russian people.

The soldiers and commanders vowed not to give up our native capital of Moscow, with anger and hatred in their hearts they smashed the fascists, their tanks and fascist vultures. "

And on November 29, as it is written in the same magazine on the same 9th page, General of the Army Apanasenko congratulated the soldiers and commanders.

All declassified military journals of these "Siberians" -Far East (including the journals of the 9th Guards Rifle Division) are posted today on the Memory of the People website in the public domain in the card of the Far Eastern Front General Joseph Rodionovich Apanasenko.

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Moscow was only 17 km away


By mid-November 1941, the enemy was 17 kilometers from the capital.

Famous German saboteur, SS Obersturmbannfuehrer Otto Skorzeny rightly noted the role of our glorious "Far Easterners":

“In November and December our aviation, which even then did not have a sufficient number of aircraft, was unable to effectively attack the Trans-Siberian railway, thanks to which Siberian divisions came to the rescue of the capital - and Moscow was considered doomed already in October. "

“I think that despite the mud, frost and impassability, despite the betrayal and mediocrity of some bosses, the confusion in our logistics and the heroism of Russian soldiers, we would have captured Moscow in early December 1941, if new Siberian units had not been brought into battle».

This is how the Germans very quickly learned about the arrival of Siberians on the outskirts of the capital. Rather, the Fritzes felt the iron Far Eastern grip on themselves at once. And soon a counter-offensive by Soviet troops began near Moscow.

In his a book "Unknown War" the same German mentions the Far East as the very Siberians. This confirms the fact that the Fritzes did not make or did not see the difference between the Far Easterners and the Siberians. Everything beyond the Urals was for our enemies - our Siberia:

“And one more unpleasant surprise - near Borodino we had to fight the Siberians for the first time.

They are tall, excellent soldiers, well armed; they were dressed in wide fur sheepskin coats and hats, and fur boots on their feet.

The 32nd Infantry division from Vladivostok with the support of two new tank brigades, consisting of T-34 and KV tanks. "


“What we had to constantly fight with new Siberian units, did not bode well. "
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At the cost of the incredible efforts of the Red Army, the militia and the partisans, the Wehrmacht offensive near Moscow was thwarted.

All this time, at the disposal of the Supreme Command Headquarters, human and material and technical resources were accumulated for a large-scale counteroffensive.

Every day, combat replenishment went from the territories of the Far East, which sometimes rushed straight from the wheels into battle.

The commander of the 78th rifle division (then still a colonel) A.P. Beloborodov in a book of the memoirs "Always in battle" (1988) about the situation that was observed on the Trans-Siberian Railway and resembled the work of a well-oiled mechanism, and also struck with the timing of transportation, he wrote:

“The transfer was controlled by the Headquarters of the Supreme High Command. We felt this all the way.

The railway workers opened a green street for us. At the nodal stations, the trains stood no more than five to seven minutes. They will unhook one steam locomotive, attach another, filled with water and coal, and again forward!

Accurate schedule, tight control.

As a result, all thirty-six echelons of the division crossed the country from east to west at the speed of courier trains.

The last echelon left Vladivostok on October 17, and on October 28 our units were already unloading in the Moscow region, in the city of Istra and at the stations closest to it.

Those one and a half weeks that the division spent on the road were densely saturated with combat and political training. Commanders and political workers worked with soldiers right in the carriages according to a special curriculum. Party political work was actively carried out in the cars: meetings, conversations, discussion of newspaper materials. "

But most of the troops redeployed along the Trans-Siberian Railway near Moscow were then redirected from the Far East and from Primorye, some experts note.

Here's an example: out of 40 divisions of the Far Eastern Front, 23 were sent to Moscow, and that's not counting 17 separate brigades.

Take a look at an incomplete list of the military formations of the Far Eastern Front that participated in the Moscow battle: divisions - 107th motorized rifle; 32nd Red Banner; 78th, 239th, 413th rifle; 58th, 112th tank, as well as naval rifle brigades - 62nd, 64th, 71st Pacific sailors and 82nd Amur sailors.

Apanasenko's guard goes to the rescue



Army General Iosif Apanasenko, Major General Alexander Rodimtsev, Lieutenant General Pavel Rotmistrov. July, 1943. Source: Sputnik

The 78th Infantry Division was rightfully recognized as the best of the Far East. She, one of the first to receive the title of the Guards, entered the battle near Istra on November 1, 1941.

The opponents of the Primorye were selected German troops, participants in the battles in Poland and France, who had already managed to smell Russian gunpowder near Minsk and Smolensk: the 10th Panzer Division, the SS Das Reich motorized division and the 252nd Infantry Division.

By the way, according to the assurances of experts, it was in the carts of these German units that there was the very uniform that the Nazis had already prepared for their solemn parade on the allegedly impending capture of Moscow. And the German servicemen in their documents already kept the invitation cards issued to them for the celebrations being prepared in honor of their supposedly upcoming capture of the capital of Russia / USSR.

But these Napoleonic plans of the fascists failed.

At the line occupied by the Far East, the Nazis did not advance one iota further than 42 kilometers.

The Far East from the 78th rifle division received the title of guardsmen, among other things, for the fact that the number of 14 thousand they were able to defeat the 21,5 thousand army of the fascists, leaving only about 3 thousand Fritz alive from this whole crowd of enemies.

Guardsmen of the commander of the Far East A.P. Beloborodov, who was awarded the rank of Guard Major General for the defense of Moscow, threw the enemy back 100 kilometers from the capital of our Motherland.

On December 11, units of this division occupied Istra. And on December 21, they entered into clashes with fresh German units that arrived as reinforcements in the Moscow direction. Then, near Vyazma, saving the 33rd Army of General M.G. Efremov, the Far East withdrew parts of the surrounded army from the Vyazemsky boiler. And often all these feats of the Far Eastern guardsmen performed with the numerical superiority of the enemy.

But we talked about only one Far Eastern division. But there were more than two dozen of them. Plus Amur sailors and Pacific sailors. All of them were listed among the Germans then in "Siberians" and brought incredible fear and wild horror to the soldiers of the Wehrmacht.

Long before the defense of Sevastopol, the Fritzes were shivering from meetings with the Far Eastern marines from the 64th and 71st separate brigades of the Pacific Fleet marines.

They were called in the camp of the enemy "black death". And they performed their feats near Moscow. The Marines then entered the battle directly from the echelons. They did not even have time to provide them with camouflage gowns.

Of course, nothing prevented the Pacific Far Easterners from mercilessly destroying the hated Hitlerites in terrible hand-to-hand combat and bayonet attacks. The Nazis had never seen this before and remembered it forever.


Unfortunately, the losses of the Soviet Red Navy men were also very great.

Like the Red Navy men, the 32nd division of Colonel V.I. fought heroically, but already on the Borodino field. Polosukhina, who arrived from Primorye, from the village of Razdolny. Far Eastern fighters from the 211st and 212nd airborne brigades beat the enemy no less bravely.

And the fighters from the Far East did not let the country down then. They saved Moscow from the fascist scum.

And when you hear about the Siberian divisions that defended Moscow again, remember that there were also a lot of Far Easterners in these ranks of Soviet soldiers then.

Secondary formations for the Far East


But back to the Far East.

So, an order came to the Far Eastern Front to immediately send eight fully equipped and armed divisions to Moscow.

The pace of dispatch was so high that the troops from the camps left for the loading station on alert. At the same time, some of the people who were outside the unit did not keep pace with the loading.

And in some units there was a shortage of weapons and transport.

Moscow, however, demanded full staffing.

Joseph Rodionovich Apanasenko could not afford to violate such an order. Therefore, a testing and exhaust station was organized - Kuibyshevka-Vostochnaya as the residence of the headquarters of the 2nd Army.

At this station, a reserve of all weapons, transport, means of propulsion, soldiers and officers was created. The commanders of the departing divisions and regiments, through the chiefs of the echelons and specially appointed officers, checked the presence of shortages in each echelon.

This was telegraphed to the 2nd Army. There, everything that was missing was submitted to the appropriate echelons. Each echelon from the checkout station had to leave (and leave) in full.

Without asking anyone, I.R. Apanasenko in place of the departing divisions immediately began to form new ones.


A general mobilization of all ages up to 55 years old was announced.

But that was still not enough.

And Apanasenko ordered the prosecutor's office to check the cases of the prisoners. And also to identify everyone who can be released and sent to the troops.

Eight divisions were being dispatched to rescue Moscow at high speed.

Then they ordered to send four more. Then six more were sent 1–2.

A total of 18 divisions, out of a total of 19 that were part of the front.

Instead of each sent to the front I.R. Apanasenko ordered to form a second division. For these secondary formations I.R. Apanasenko also deserves a separate monument in the Far East.

After all, he organized all this on his own initiative and under his personal responsibility. Moreover, with the disapproving attitude of a number of his closest assistants. And with complete indifference and even irony of the center.

The center, of course, knew about the secondary Far Eastern formations. But everyone (except Apanasenko) was convinced that it was impossible to form anything in the Far East without the help of the center: there were no people, no weapons, no transport, and nothing at all.

But I.R. Apanasenko found everything, formed everything and built everything.


I.R. Apanasenko. Source: pobeda26.ru

In short, despite unimaginable difficulties, second-order divisions were formed to replace those who left. Moreover, they were created even more than the previous ones.

When the new formations became a reality, the General Staff easily approved them. And, by the way, he took four more divisions into the army. Already from among the secondary Far Eastern ones.

Thus, during the period from July 1941 to June 1942, the Far East sent 22 rifle divisions and several dozen marching reinforcements to the active army.

Soldier of three wars



Postcard, "Soviet artist", Moscow, 1966

Recall that Iosif Rodionovich Apanasenko was drafted into the army back in 1911. He was the first in the world to be awarded three St. George's crosses and two St. George medals at once. During the Civil War, he commanded a brigade and a division.

And from the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, we repeat, he was the commander of the Far Eastern Front with the rank of army general.

In June 1943, Apanasenko was able to get into the army in the field as deputy commander of the Voronezh front.

And that's what the participant of three wars (the First World War, the Civil and the Great Patriotic War) Deputy Commander of the Voronezh Front, I.R. Apanasenko told his soldiers, speaking before the troops on the eve of the battle:

“Hitler set the task of defeating the Soviet troops on the Kursk Bulge, and then taking Moscow from the east.

Our troops are ready for battle.

The enemy will be defeated.

It all depends on the resilience of all types of troops.

Sons, trust me soldier of three warsthat Hitler will drown in his blood here, his troops will be defeated, as well as at Stalingrad. "
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General of the Army Iosif Rodionovich Apanasenko died near Belgorod.

This happened during the battles in the Belgorod direction, not far from the village of Tomarovka on August 5, 1943. He was mortally wounded. And less than an hour later he died.

He was taken to Belgorod for parting and burial. On August 7, he was buried in a separate grave in the park on Revolution Square.

Marshal of the Soviet Union Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov (pictured) considered it his duty to say goodbye to the prominent military commander.


Source: belstory.ru

A few days later (after the funeral), the contents of the suicide note of Joseph Rodionovich (with a request - even burn, but bury in the Stavropol Territory) was transferred to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. Stalin without hesitation allowed the will to be fulfilled at the first opportunity. That, together with the need to equip the monuments, was enshrined in the resolution of the Council of People's Commissars No. 898.

Thus, according to the will of Joseph Rodionovich and by order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Stalin, Apanasenko's body was delivered by plane from Belgorod to Stavropol. On August 16, 1943, he was buried at the highest place in the city - on the Komsomolskaya (Cathedral) hill with a huge crowd of citizens.

Very quickly (within three days) the tombstone was erected. It received the status of a federal monument.

By the way, either the testament note was taken literally, or for sanitary reasons, but the general's body was still burned. Therefore, a separate element of the grave-mausoleum of General of the Army I.R. Apanasenko in Stavropol is an urn with ashes at the bottom of the mausoleum.


The city of Stavropol. Komsomolskaya Gorka. 1943 Erection of a monument at the grave of I.R. Apanasenko. Source: yandex

What is important, this mausoleum in the Stavropol Territory was also unique in that it became the only monument in our country that was erected during the Great Patriotic War. This is reported in the materials of the local museum.

To commemorate the merits of General I.R. Apanasenko named after him the Divensky district of the Stavropol Territory and the village where he was born.


Monument to I.R. Apanasenko in the village of Divnoe, Apanasenkovsky district. Source: stavmuseum.ru

Another little-known fact.

It turns out that six days after the death on the battlefield of Army General Joseph Apanasenko in the American Central the newspaper The New York Times published an article entitled “Two Soviet Generals Killed In Offensives; Apanasenko Dies at Belgorod, Gurtyeff Falls at Orel.”


And at the end of our story I would like to summarize what has been said in two articles.

The birth of the legend that the capital was saved by Siberian divisions was recorded in the memoirs of Marshal K.K. Rokossovsky.

Of course, no one is going to belittle the feat of our native Siberians in the Great Patriotic War and in the defense of Moscow in particular. However, the enormous heroic contribution of the Far East to the defense of Moscow is usually not mentioned.

With this material, we just wanted to remind once again that it was the fresh forces from the Far East in the defense of Moscow that became the straw that turned the tide of the battle and broke the back of fascism.

In addition, it is now clear why Stalin valued this general so highly. After all, it was the military genius of I.R. Apanasenko prevented a war on two fronts, catastrophic for the USSR: with Germany and Japan.

Apanasenko street in Khabarovsk will be?


We believe that the feat of the Far Easterners who defended the heart of Russia / USSR - Moscow, is also worthy of monuments and national memory.

Likewise, grateful descendants should keep the memory of General Joseph Apanasenko. It is reported that the name of I.R. Apanasenko has already named streets in the cities of Belgorod, Mikhailovsk (Stavropol Territory) and Raichikhinsk (Amur Region).


City of Belgorod. Apanasenko street. Source: bel.ru

It is gratifying that on March 13, 2020, Khabarovsk residents publicly were made with the initiative in honor of this Soviet commander and the former commander of the Far Eastern Front to name a street in the new microdistrict of the capital of their region. The popular initiative has already been supported by historians.

Ivan Kryukov, General Director of the Grodekov Museum, put it this way:

“As a historian, it seems to me that this person deserves to be on the map of our city.

Until now, the name of General Apanasenko remained undeservedly forgotten.

Meanwhile, he led the Far Eastern Front in the most difficult times, from 1941 to 1943, when the situation was very acute and dangerous.

During this period, General Apanasenko built roads and sought to justify the officers so that competent qualified military personnel would be released from the camps. "

The Khabarovsk regional branch of the Russian Military Historical Society (together with the museum) has already addressed the mayor of the city with a request that one of the new streets in the Orekhovaya Sopka microdistrict under construction be named after Iosif Apanasenko.

Also, Khabarovsk social activists and historians are striving for a memorial plaque to Iosif Apanasenko to appear in the regional capital.

I must say that in the Far Eastern Amur Region they still remember this hero-general of the Great Patriotic War.

According to the documents of the Amur Regional Archive, back on March 20, 1944, when the issue of renaming it was discussed in the working collectives of the Raichikha village (in connection with the formation of the city), a proposal was made to change the name of this settlement to the city of Apanasensk. However, the majority of the voters, unfortunately, then spoke out against "Apanasensk" and supported the new name "Raichikhinsk". And only in one document at that time the word initiated by the majority was crossed out and a handwritten inscription was made in ink over it:

"Apanasensk".

I must say that whole working collectives voted there then.

Thus, there was a proposal to create the city of Apanasensk in the Amur Region.

This idea was born in 1944 among the residents of Raychikha - participants in the Great Patriotic War. And this was directly related to the tribute to the memory of General of the Army Apanasenko Iosif Rodionovich, who did a lot to strengthen the defense capability of the Soviet Far East. In addition, this village (now a city) was located not far from the Transsib highway, which was built by Joseph Rodionovich during the war years, and for the Amur residents as well.

And so it happened that the name "Apanasensk" was then the only alternative to Raichikhinsk on the Amur. But officially it was not approved there, alas, then. But the residents of Raichikhins could well live in the city of Apanasensk today?

But there is no such city in the Far East to this day.

True, although the name of this Amur town was not given then, but thanks to these debates in the Amur Region, it was still possible to immortalize the name of this legendary Soviet military leader in the name of the street.

So, today in the city of Raichikhinsk, in the Severny microdistrict, there is a legendary name in the plaques on the houses:

"Apanasenko street".

But for some reason the monument to Iosif Rodionovich Apanasenko in the Far East has not yet been, and still is not.
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    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 15 February 2021 05: 47
      +26
      Quote: Destiny
      The Soviet people saved Moscow and the whole country.

      Right. yes And, if we take in essence: "Siberians" or "Far Easterners" - then during my service and before me the soldier was determined by the place of birth (conscription).
      1. nikvic46
        nikvic46 15 February 2021 06: 11
        +10
        Yuri Vasilievich: You have correctly noted that my father is a Volga citizen, but he served in the Far Eastern Military District.
      2. Bar1
        Bar1 15 February 2021 08: 18
        +25
        aunt has some kind of bzyk? Now the USSR / Russia, now Siberia is not the Far East.
        At least look in the reference book.

        As a special regional toponym "Siberia" (Sibir, Sebir) has been recorded in text and cartographic sources since at least the XNUMXth century. At this time, this toponym designates the territory in the middle reaches of the Irtysh, roughly corresponding to the possessions of the Siberian Khanate (the current Sverdlovsk, Kurgan, Chelyabinsk, Tyumen and Omsk regions of the Russian Federation). Since the middle of the XNUMXth century, the Russian use of this toponym has been recorded in relation to the territory controlled by the Moscow state from the Urals to the Pacific Ocean.

        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Сибирь
        Before writing such articles, it is necessary to tighten up geography.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 15 February 2021 13: 52
          +20
          I agree with Timur (Bar 1).
          The article, with all its informational richness, has disastrous, even vicious conclusions that Moscow was saved in 41 by "the Far East" and "Kazakhstanis". At the same time, the simple truth is ignored that the Far East and Kazakhstan are part of Siberia!
          To enlighten the Author, I draw your attention to the fact that in the middle of the nineteenth century, even our possessions in Russian America were understood as Great Siberia.
          Moreover, our modern division of federal districts has historical vulnerabilities. For example, the Ural Federal District includes part of western Siberia, namely the Tyumen and Kurgan regions (Trans-Urals), but the Perm Territory and the Orenburg Region (Cis-Urals) are not included. By the way, the Ural River flows through the Chelyabinsk and Orenburg regions.
          A similar situation of artificial division of "Far East" and "Siberians" !!!
          And finally, what archives on the defense of Moscow were closed in 1941? Moreover, "it is supposed to be on the personal instructions of Stalin"? Not digitized yes, but there are no problems of access to them. Maybe you messed with the UK archives? They are, for today, not classified.
          Findings. The work of the Dear Author is essentially aimed at forming a "blown" myth, which can lead to an escalation of controversial issues on this topic between the natives of our vast homeland. As the "ancient Romans" said - divide and conquer!
          In fact, the root of evil of our journalism today is “you will go nuts”, “you will turn pale”, “you ...” - a catchy headline (meme) is not the most important thing, the content is more important. At least - it was still appreciated by the members of the Military Review, on the branch of history.
          1. Ua3qhp
            Ua3qhp 15 February 2021 17: 55
            +5
            Simply all who and who beyond the Urals is Siberia.
          2. Hagen
            Hagen 16 February 2021 10: 31
            +6
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            The article, with all its informational richness, has pernicious, even vicious conclusions that Moscow was saved in 41 by "Far East" and "Kazakhstanis".

            Quite right. Moscow was saved by all who, by their stubbornness, often at the cost of their lives, detained the enemy even for a minute, even for a day. Therefore, everyone saved her, starting with the border guards on the western border of the USSR, including those who provided the Army with everything needed without sleep and rest in hard work and hardships. To divide them into those “who defended and who did not,” today is very pernicious. I have all the respect for the personality of I.R. Apanasenko, his combat organizational and administrative qualities, but this is still, figuratively speaking, part of the general mechanism of strategic defense of the state under the unified leadership of the State Defense Committee, and he could only act strictly within the framework allocated for him of authority, carrying out the general plan of action in terms of it. Unfortunately, his personality has not yet been expressed in the historical works of our military historians. But I think, I hope it will still be.
        2. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 20 February 2021 19: 16
          +2
          Quote: Bar1
          aunt has some kind of bzyk?

          With language removed.
          1. Judging by the division of Beloborodov, the formation is Siberia, the last deployment before being sent to the front is the Far East. So which division?
          2. Are the Far Eastern divisions formed exclusively from Far Eastern conscripts?
          3. In those days, was the border between Siberia and the Far East clearly marked?
          Once a Kazakh assured me that Moscow was saved by Kazakh divisions. And he focused on the courage of the Kazakh warriors. They say Panfilov's division. I had to remind that there were 40% of Kazakhs in this division.
          I don't think it is worth dividing our warriors into those and others. They all performed an unparalleled feat.
          And such ORGANIZERS, as Apanasenko was, now probably in the afternoon with fire you will not find.
          I give credit to the author of the article for the information content. The message, however, is not very good.
          1. Bar1
            Bar1 20 February 2021 22: 51
            +1
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            ... In those days, the border between Siberia and the Far East was clearly marked?
            Once a Kazakh assured me that Moscow was saved by Kazakh divisions. And he focused on the courage of the Kazakh warriors. They say Panfilov's division. I had to remind that there were 40% of Kazakhs in this division.


            it's a lie.

            The national composition of the division was as follows:



            - Kyrgyz — 11 percent, Kazakhs —11, Russians — 67, Ukrainians — 8, the remaining 3 percent — representatives of other nationalities of the Soviet Union.


            https://vesti.kg/obshchestvo/item/5923-kazahstanskie-smi-proyavlyayut-popyitki-vyiklyuchit-iz-ofitsialnoy-istorii-fakt-prinadlezhnosti-panfilovskoy-divizii-k-kirgizskoy-ssr.html#ixzz3KhpdXCMD

            Considering that Russians and Ukrainians are one and the same, we can say that it was a Russian war.
        3. giwer
          giwer 22 February 2021 16: 10
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          February 22, 2021 Agree with you.
          For information, the source is the Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1901 edition. Administratively, Siberia is divided: 1. Two provinces, Tobolsk and Tomsk (western Siberia). 2. Irkutsk General Governorship (Yenisei, Irkutsk and Yakutsk Provinces) Eastern Siberia. 3. Priamurskaya general governorship (Transbaikal, Amurskaya and Primorskaya oblasts) 4. Steppe general governorship (Akmola, Semirechenskaya and Semipalatinskaya oblasts).
          PM15:59
      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 15 February 2021 08: 26
        +10
        Who saved Moscow in 1941: Siberians or the Far East of General Apanasenko?
        As in the battle of Borodino, Kazakh horsemen. repeat
        Defeat is an orphan; victory has many fathers. hi
      4. Civil
        Civil 15 February 2021 08: 27
        +8
        My grandfather is also from the Volga region, but since 1937 he served in the Far Eastern Military District and from there in October he came under Moscow, went through the entire war to Prague. Grew up from corporal to major. And then he drove the zaladents until 1947.
        It is strange to consider him a Far East.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 15 February 2021 14: 01
          +3
          Quote: Civil
          It is strange to consider him a Far East


          Is the term "Far East" interesting? Guys and girls are natives and residents of the Russian Far East. Is it in this vein that the word "Far East" is used?
          On my own behalf, I can be wrong - I have not heard the term "Far East" or "Far East". A resident of the Far East, a native of the Primorsky Territory, etc. not just two, but a "Far East". Vague doubts arise that the author of the article is not a native speaker of the Russian language. These are analogies with "v" and "on" Ukraine.
          Well, somewhere like that. I have the honor!
          1. Alex2711
            Alex2711 16 February 2021 21: 54
            +5
            I was born and lived for 35 years in the Far East. All my relatives, friends and acquaintances consider themselves "Far Easterners". For us, the territory of Siberia from the Urals to Lake Baikal. Everything to the east of Lake Baikal is the Far East.
          2. Ugochaves
            Ugochaves 17 February 2021 02: 10
            +5
            It is the "Far East" and not the "Siberians" in any way, and it is the Far East. Siberia, back in the 19th century, ended in Transalkalia, everything to the east is the Far East. As a resident of Khabarovsk, I don't need to be told that I am a Siberian.
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 17 February 2021 06: 18
              +2
              Quote: UgoChaves
              It is the "Far East" and not the "Siberians" in any way, and it is the Far East. Siberia, back in the 19th century, ended in Transalkalia, everything to the east is the Far East. As a resident of Khabarovsk, I don't need to be told that I am a Siberian.

              Geographically, at the time of Miller and Bering, Siberia ended in Okhotsk - it is, as it were, much east of Khabarovsk.
              The question is different. Do you call yourself a "Far East", "Far East"?
              1. Ugochaves
                Ugochaves 17 February 2021 06: 52
                +4
                Yes, exactly so, and no one has ever called us Siberians. Earlier, although Siberia was designated up to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, in fact it ended in Transalkalia with the Cossacks-Gurans.
                1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                  Kote Pan Kokhanka 17 February 2021 07: 44
                  +3
                  He opened ten books written in the century before last, including historical sketches by Solovyov, Klyuchevsky, Kostomarov and Yushkov. At 7 I found the concept of "Siberian", "Siberian". In two, it is true that these terms are understood as indigenous people "foreigners", but even in this capacity the geography is wide from the Urals (Voguls, Ostyaks and Tatars) to Kamchatka (mushers, Kamchadals and Chukchi).
                  The rest are just locals.
                  1. Alex2711
                    Alex2711 17 February 2021 12: 47
                    +1
                    Historical documents are wonderful. But none of those who were born to the east of Lake Baikal will call themselves a Siberian.
                    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                      Kote Pan Kokhanka 17 February 2021 13: 02
                      0
                      I have many acquaintances from Ulan-Ude, most of them consider themselves Siberians.
                      Moreover, they do not call themselves “Far Easterners”. Inhabitants, natives of the Far East, yes, but not "Far East". Forgive me for the tautology.
                      In fact, the term "Far East" appears with the emergence of Vladivostok and is geographically considered part of "Greater Siberia".
                      The modern division into federal districts is rather conventional, both geographically and historically does not reflect reality.
                      1. Alex2711
                        Alex2711 17 February 2021 15: 51
                        0
                        I have lived in Komsomolsk-on-Amur for 35 years, and all this time I considered myself a Far East, and you are trying to prove to me that I am a Siberian. Apparently you and I have different realities. All my relatives, friends and acquaintances living in the Far East consider themselves Far Easterners, but of course you know better.
                      2. The point
                        The point 18 February 2021 15: 25
                        +2
                        Countryman! For most people, everything beyond the Urals is Siberia. But the Far East in their heads does not fit, apparently, a lot of letters. But to us, FAR EAST, in principle, it makes no difference. But I don't see myself as a Siberian. I believe that no one in Komsomolsk will call himself a Siberian.
                      3. The point
                        The point 19 February 2021 13: 42
                        0
                        I also add a screen
                  2. fuxila
                    fuxila 18 February 2021 15: 43
                    +4
                    If you look at the old maps, it turns out that the Petersburgers are some Izhorians or Ingrian, and so what? My maternal ancestors came to the Far East under the tsar and always considered themselves to be the Far East, but not Siberians. Even my relatives in Moscow and the Kuban know that we are Far Easterners, and when I came to them, even in Soviet times, they always greeted me with the words: "A Far Easterner has arrived."
                    And in Ulan-Ude live Transbaikal people, this is a separate region, certainly not related to Siberia, and if it is possible to the Far East, if it is possible, then with a stretch, although at one time it was part of the Amur General Governorship. Many Transbaikalians can even be distinguished by their dialects, we call them Gurans. And they, too, for the most part consider themselves to be Transbaikalians, and not Siberians or Far Easterners.
        2. giwer
          giwer 22 February 2021 16: 11
          0
          February 22 2021
          For information, the source is the Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1901 edition. Administratively, Siberia is divided: 1. Two provinces, Tobolsk and Tomsk (western Siberia). 2. Irkutsk General Governorship (Yenisei, Irkutsk and Yakutsk Provinces) Eastern Siberia. 3. Priamurskaya general governorship (Transbaikal, Amurskaya and Primorskaya oblasts) 4. Steppe general governorship (Akmola, Semirechenskaya and Semipalatinskaya oblasts).
          PM15:5
  2. svp67
    svp67 15 February 2021 17: 09
    +3
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Right.

  • svp67
    svp67 15 February 2021 19: 58
    +1
    Quote: Destiny
    The Soviet people saved Moscow and the whole country.

    And yet the author of the article asked a certain question, namely, where were the most infantry formations and units in the army operating in Moscow sent from? Let's look at the Western Front.
    Date 01 November 1941, not long before the start of the counteroffensive
    5 army: - 32 SD- On 22.06.1941/32/11.09.1941, the XNUMXnd Red Banner Infantry Division was stationed in the Far East (Razdolnoye station of the Primorsky Territory), departed to the front on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX.
    - 50 RD - Before the war was stationed in the area of ​​Polotsk - Borovukha-1 - Ekiman, Vitebsk region, from 24.06.1941 in battles
    - 144 RD - On 22.06.1941/29.06.1941/XNUMX, parts of the division were stationed in Yaroslavl and Vladimir, departed to the front on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    - 1310 joint venture (18th rifle regiment) - 1310 rifle regiment of the 18th Moscow rifle division of the people's militia. Place of formation Moscow
    - 82 mdd - By the beginning of World War II, the division was stationed in the city of Bain-Tumen (Mongolian People's Republic). She left for the front on October 07, 1941
    - 18 SBR - arrived from a group of Soviet occupation forces in Iran
    - 19 brigade - the place of formation of the Oryol military district,
    - 20th separate (cadet) rifle brigade, the place of formation of the Oryol Military District,
    - 22 otbr, the place of formation of the Kharkiv Military District,
    - 25 brigade, the place of formation of the Kharkov military district,
    - 36th OMTSP, the regiment began its formation on July 28, 1941 in the region of the Noginsk camps on the basis of the 14th reserve motorcycle regiment stationed in Moscow, the formation of the regiment was completed on August 31, 1941.
    - 27 otts, formed in 1941 at the Moscow ABT Center (Kosterevo).
    On December 01, 1941, the front was replenished
    - 108 SD, the division was formed in 1939 and was part of the 44th rifle corps of the reserve of the Western Front, was stationed in Vyazma.
    Total for 5 armies, only one unit arrived from the Far East, Siberian divisions - no
    1. svp67
      svp67 15 February 2021 21: 05
      +3
      16th Army, on 01 November 1941:
      - 18th Rifle Division, formed on July 2, 1941 in the city of Krasnogorsk as the 18th Moscow Division of the People's Militia (Leningradsky District)
      - 126 SD, on 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX, the main forces of the division were in ежnezhmoryai, south of Kaunas.
      - 316 RD (8th Guards Rifle Division), was formed in July - August 1941 in Alma-Ata
      - a separate cadet rifle regiment of the Moscow Infantry School named after Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR,
      - 50 cd (3 guards cd), formed in July 1941 in the North Caucasus Military District near Armavir. The core of the division was the Cossacks of the Kuban villages of Prochnokopskaya, Labinskaya, Kurgannaya, Sovetskaya, Voznesenskaya, Otradnaya.
      - 53 cd, formed in July 1941 in the North Caucasus Military District near Stavropol. The core of the division was recruits from the villages: Trunovskoye, Izobilnoye, Ust-Dzhegutinskoye, Novo-Mikhailovskoye, Troitskoye.
      - 4 brigade, formed in the Moscow military district,
      - 27 brigades, according to the directive of the NCO N-108496 from 17.10.41. formed in the city of Pavlovo on the Oka of the Gorky Region,
      - 28 rounds, formed on the territory of the Gorky region. It was staffed with cadets of the Leningrad Military Engineering (it was evacuated from Leningrad), the Yaroslavl Infantry, Ryazan Artillery Schools.
      - 22 odbepo, formed as the 2nd separate division of the South-Western direction in the period from October 1 to 19, 1941 in Voronezh, consisting of three bepo. On October 25, the bepo departed for Volokolamsk, and on the basis of the directive of the NGO No. 22ss of October 29.10.1941, 22, the unit began to be called the XNUMXnd department. division of armored trains.
      on 01.12.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX arrived in the army
      -7 Guards Rifle Division, reorganized from the 64th Infantry Division, which until 20.06.1941/20.06.1941/XNUMX was stationed in Smolensk and from XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, was transferred to the Western Front,
      - 9th Guards Rifle Division, formed on the basis of the 78th Infantry Division. At the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, it was stationed in the Ussuriysk Territory, was part of the Far Eastern Front. In July 1941, Colonel A.P. Beloborodov was appointed commander of the division.
      In October 1941, the division was transferred from the Far East to Moscow
      - 354 rifle division, the division was formed in the Penza region, on the basis of the directive of the PRIVO Armed Forces No. MOU 1/13726. The formation began on August 15, 1941. The division was formed in the city of Kuznetsk, Kuznetsk and Sosnovoborsk districts of the Penza region and ended on November 14, 1941. From 12 to 25 November 1941, the division was stationed in the city of Shumerlya of the Chuvash Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, where it received weapons and continued combat training.
      In the active army during the Great Patriotic War - from 29.11.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX
      - 36th OSBR, the brigade was formed from October 18 to November 18, 1941 in the city of Samarkand of the Uzbek Republic. on the basis of the Oryol, Gomel infantry schools and other draft contingents of the Uzbek, Kazakh, Turkmen and Tajik republics.
      - 37 OSBR, formed from 20.10 to 20.11.41 in the Central Asian Military District.
      The brigade consisted of 70% of cadets of military schools and 30% of those called up from the reserve.
      - 40 OSBR, by order of the NKO of the USSR, the 40th SBR began to form on 22.10.1941/213/32 in FRUNZE from units and formations of the XNUMXrd Katta-Kurgan Rifle Division, the Alma-Ata XNUMXnd Reserve Rifle Brigade and cadets of military schools ...
      - 49 OSBR, was formed on the basis of the order of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR of October 14, 1941, number 00105. It was formed in the late autumn of 1941 in Udmurtia, as part of the UralVO
      - 282 joint venture (19 rifle division), until 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX, was in the city of Voronezh
      - 20 GCD, arrived from the Central Asian VO
      - 44 CD, formed in July 1941 in Tashkent.
      - 1 guards brigade, reorganized from 4 brigade, formed on August 19, 1941 in the village of Prudboy, Stalingrad region from the remnants of personnel evacuated from the front, destroyed in the battles of the 15th and 20th tank divisions
      - 19 otbr, formed on the basis of the Directive NCO No. 725444ss dated 22.09.1941/10/8 in Kosterevo (Moscow region) on the basis of the 14th tank division, the XNUMXth and XNUMXth battalions were sent to form the brigade.
      - 25 brigade, formed from October 1 to October 20, 1941 in the city of Novoe Sormovo (now the station Novoye Sormovo within the city of Nizhny Novgorod), Gorky region
      - 27 brigades, formed on the basis of the Moscow Military District,
      - 28 brigade, formed on September 28, 1941 in the city of Naro-Fominsk and the village of Kosterevo (Moscow region).
      - 33 otbr, formed on the basis of the Directive of the Deputy. NKO No. 725444ss dated 22.09.1941 in Kharkov on the basis of the 12th tank division.
      - 145 debris, formed from the remainder of 104 TD, withdrawn to the reserve of ZapFr,
      - 146 scraps, reformed on the basis of the Directive of the Deputy. NGO No. 725599ss dated 13.10.1941/30/29 in the Gorky ABT Center (in Sormovo) on the basis of the 115th, 15th and 1941th TP. On November XNUMX, XNUMX, the formation of the brigade was completed.
      - 89 ot, formed in the Moscow Military District, participated in the Parade on Red Square on 07.11.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX
      - 21 odbpo, formed from 21 to 25 October 1941 in Moscow on the basis of the personnel of the 12th regiment and received a new name - 21st department. division of armored trains.
      A preliminary conclusion, based on an analysis of the composition of the two armies of the Western Front, while it is not necessary to say that it was the divisions from the Far East that made the turning point in the Moscow battle
      1. svp67
        svp67 16 February 2021 16: 33
        +1
        33th Army, on 01 November 1941:
        - 110 SD, formed by renaming the 4th Moscow Rifle Division of the People's Militia (Kuibyshevsky District)
        - 113 SD, (second formation), formed in accordance with the directive of the Deputy People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR No. Org. / 2/540124 dated 19.09.1941 [1] by renaming the 5th Moscow Rifle Division of the People's Militia (Frunzensky District).
        - 222 SD, formed in March-April 1941 in Unecha, at that time in the Oryol region, in pursuance of the directive of the Military Council of the ARVO. A significant part of the personnel of the division was recruited from local conscripts.
        - 1 Guards. mcd, was formed on August 5, 1941 in the Kokushkino area (15 km north of Dorogobuzh, Smolensk region) as part of the 20th Army.
        - 5 otbr, formed on the basis of the Directive of the Deputy. NGO No. 725373ss dated 14.09.1941/12/1 in Mozhaisk (Moscow region) on the basis of the 671th TP of the 13st TD (II formation). By GKO decree No.-1941ss of September 23, 1941, GABTU was obliged to complete the formation of the brigade by September XNUMX, XNUMX.
        for 01.12.1941 year the composition of the army has not changed
        In this army, not a single "Siberian" or "Far Eastern" division
        1. svp67
          svp67 16 February 2021 17: 50
          0
          43th Army, on 01 November 1941:
          - 17th SD, (second formation) transformed from the 17th Moscow division of the people's militia on September 19, 1941.
          - 53rd Rifle Division, in June 1941 was stationed in the Volga Military District and was transferred to the Belarusian Military District, the war found in the echelons
          - 93rd rifle division, at the beginning of the war was part of the ZabVO, in the village of Antipikha. In the fall of 1941, transferred to Moscow
          - 10 airborne brigade, formed in May 1941 in Daugavpils on the basis of the 223rd Infantry Division
          - 201st brigade, June 22, 1941 deployed in Daugavpils, in a summer camp on the outskirts of the city. Having entered into combat contact with German troops on June 26, 1941
          - 9 brigade, formed on September 26, 1941 in the town of Kosterevo, Smolensk region,
          - 17 otbr, formed on the basis of the Directive of the Deputy. NGO No. 725444ss dated 22.09.1941 in Vladimir on the basis of personnel of the 34th and 48th TD.
          - 24 brigade, (second formation), on September 13, 1941 on the basis of the 105th tank division, the 146th tank brigade was formed. From 10 to 15 October 1941, the brigade was reorganized in the city of Gorky and the village of Sormovo into a 24 separate tank brigade,
          for 01.12.1941 year arrived in the army
          - 19 RD, at the beginning of the war was part of the Moscow Military District
          In this army there was one Trans-Baikal division, so I don't even know to whom it can be attributed to the "Siberians" or "Far East" laughing
          1. svp67
            svp67 16 February 2021 19: 15
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            49th Army, on 01 November 1941:
            - 5th Guards Rifle Division, was formed on the territory of the Altai Territory of the RSFSR in 1939 and until 24.06.1941 was there
            - 7th Guards Rifle Division, formed in July 1925 as the 64th Territorial Infantry Division in Smolensk. In 1939, the division took part in the Polish campaign of the Red Army.
            As part of the active army during the Great Patriotic War from June 22, 1941.
            - 60 SD, (second formation), created on August 15, 1941 by renaming the 1st Moscow Rifle Division of the People's Militia (Leninsky District).
            - 194 RD, on June 22, 1941 was the 194th mountain rifle, stationed in Tashkent SAVO
            - 238 SD, formed in March 1941 in the Central Asian Military District (SAVO)
            for 01.12.1941 year arrived in the army
            - 340 Rifle Division, formed in September 1941 in the city of Balashov on the basis of the decree of the State Defense Committee of the USSR of 10.08.1941/2/539000, directives of the NCO No. ORG / 11.08.1941/1 of 5726/XNUMX/XNUMX and the order of the Military Council of the Volga Military District No. For the most part, it was formed from the natives of the Penza region. After formation, it was redeployed to Kanash, where it was staffed and received weapons.
            - 415 Rifle Division, began to form in September 1941, according to the order of the troops of the 25th Army No. 0059 dated September 6 of the same year. The formation took place in the area of ​​the Razdolnoye station of the Ussuriyskaya railway. The command, command and political composition was appointed from among the cadres of the 25th and 1st armies and partly from the reserve. The rank and file were manned by the builders of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, coal miners of Suchan, residents of Primorye and Priamurye.
            This army has one "Far Eastern", freshly formed division
            1. svp67
              svp67 16 February 2021 19: 34
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              On 01.12.1941/1/XNUMX, the XNUMXst Shock Army entered the front, composed of:
              - 133rd rifle division, formed on the basis of the order of the Military Council of the Siberian Military District from September 8 to October 25, 1939. The base of the formation was the management of the 78th rifle division and its assigned personnel, living in the settlements of Altai and Siberia. She left for the front on June 25-27, 1941
              - 29 OSBR, (cadet) was formed on the basis of the Decree of the State Defense Committee No. 796ss of October 14, 1941, from October 20 to November 19, 1941 in the town of Balakhna.
              - 44 OSBR, (cadet) formed on the basis of order of the Siberian Military District N-0073 of October 16, 1941.
              - 47 OSBR, (cadet) was formed in October 1941 (according to the most reliable data in Chelyabinsk)
              - 50 OSBR, (cadet) was formed on the basis of Order No. 00105 on October 14, 1941 in the Kurgan region in September-October 1941.
              - 55 OSBR, (cadet) formed from 15.10.1941/18.11.1941/XNUMX to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX in the city of Chkalov (Orenburg) and adjacent settlements
              - 56 OSBR, (cadet) was formed from November 11, 1941 in the village of Nizhnyaya Pavlovka, Chkalovsky district, Chkalovsk region (now Orenburg district, Orenburg region)
              - 71 omosbr, formed in October 1941 in Moshkovo of the Novosibirsk region (Siberian Military District) from the sailors of the Pacific Fleet, the Amur military flotilla, the Yaroslavl naval half-crew and personnel of the VMUZ
              - 84 omorsbr, formed in 1941 near the city of Ulyanovsk from sailors of the Baltic and other fleets
              - 17 cd, at the beginning of the Great Patriotic War was stationed in the Armenian SSR in the city of Leninakan. Participated in the occupation of Iran. In November 1941, transferred to the Western Front
              - 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 16,17, 18, 19, 20 olb, (separate ski battalions) of the 1st UA were formed in Gorky, Kirov region, as well as according to some data in Perm.
              - 123 otb, (named after Kotovsky), Leads history from the 1st flying Red Guard detachment of workers in Petrograd, formed on October 29, 1917.
              Departure on November 8, 1941 from Vladimir to the Western Front. On November 10, 1941, it was reorganized into the 123rd department. tank battalion.
              - 133 rebels, 133rd dep. the tank battalion began to form on the basis of the Directive of the Deputy. NKO No. 30ss dated 31.10.1941/186/1941, based on 26 otts, previously formed in August 1941 on the Western Front. Formed on November XNUMX, XNUMX in Dzerzhinsk.
              1. svp67
                svp67 23 February 2021 07: 43
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                At 01.12.1941 year the 10th Army entered the front, consisting of:
                - 322 SD, was formed from 10 to 26 August in the city of Gorky.
                - 323 SD, was formed according to the directive of the NGO of August 11, 41g. in Tambov.
                - 324 SD, was formed on the basis of the GKO decree of August 10, 1941. The formation took place from 04.09.1941/25.11.1941/XNUMX to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX in Cheboksary from among the conscripts of the Chuvash ASSR.
                - 325 rifle divisions, formed in Serdobsk, Penza region from August 41. Initially, it began to form in Morshansk on August 29, the formation was moved to Serdobsk.
                - 326 RD, formed according to the directive of the Moscow Military District No. 106639 of August 31, 1941 and its formation continued until September 27, 1941 in Mordovia, in the city of Saransk. The recruits in the division were mainly from the Mordovian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, Ivanovo and Gorky regions
                - 328 SD, formed on the basis of the GKO decree of August 11, 41g. in the city of Kostroma from August 16, 41 The conscripts were from those liable for military service in Yaroslavl. The formation was completed by September 15th.
                - 330 SD, was formed according to the order of the State Defense Committee of August 10, 41g. in the city of Tula from residents of the Tula region
                - 57 cd, formed in September-October 1941 in Fergana (SAVO). The formation was formed in the framework of the implementation of the decree of the State Defense Committee of the USSR No. 459ss of 11.08.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX
                - 75 cd, formed in September – October 1941 in Novosibirsk (Siberian VO). The formation was formed as part of the implementation of the USSR State Defense Committee decree No. 459ss of 11.08.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX
                The army has one "Siberian" division
                1. svp67
                  svp67 23 February 2021 08: 47
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                  At 01.12.1941 year the 20th Army entered the front, consisting of:
                  - 331 SD, began to form on August 18, 1941. in the Tambov region in the city of Michurinsk. It was staffed with conscripts from the Kursk, Tambov and Oryol regions, born in 1896-1919. Received the honorary name as the 331st Infantry Bryansk Proletarian Division. The number was received after the release of the GShKA Directive No. org / 2/539994 of 11.08.41/XNUMX/XNUMX for the Oryol military district.
                  - 352 SD, formed on August 15, 1941 in the city of Bugulma of the TatSSR (Volga Military District) on the basis of the 16th reserve rifle regiment.
                  - 28th OSBR, formed on the territory of the Gorky region.
                  It was staffed with cadets of the Leningrad Military Engineering (it was evacuated from Leningrad), the Yaroslavl Infantry, Ryazan Artillery Schools.
                  - 35 OSBR, formed mainly from cadets of the Tashkent infantry and Alma-Ata machine-gun schools in the city of Chirchik, 27 km from Tashkent since October 25, 1941,
                  students of the Tashkent Institute of Irrigation and Agricultural Mechanization Engineers, the Tashkent Polytechnic and Medical Institute, the Tashkent State University, as well as soldiers who completed treatment in hospitals, also went to recruitment.
                  - 64 omorsbr; The 64th separate naval rifle brigade (OMSBr) was formed during the most dramatic period of the battle for Moscow, in October - November 1941 in the city of Nizhnie Sergi Sverdlovsk region from the sailors of the Pacific Fleet and the Amur military flotilla, cadets of naval schools, Siberians, Urals ...
                  - 134 ot, began to form on the basis of the Directive Deputy. NGO No. 30ss dated October 31.10.1941, XNUMX in Sormovo.
                  - 135 ot, began to form on the basis of the Directive Deputy. NGO No. 30ss dated October 31.10.1941, XNUMX in Sormovo.
                  The army did not have in its composition "Siberian" and "Far Eastern" formations and units
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 23 February 2021 09: 22
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                    At 01.12.1941 year joined the front 30th Army, composed of:
                    - 185 SD, on June 22, 1941 was stationed in Idritsa, Pskov region
                    - 251 SD, formed from June 30 to July 17, 1941. in military camps Art. Shchurovo (now the area of ​​Kolomna) of the Moscow Military District from the number of military reserves and military personnel of the NKVD troops.
                    - 348 Rifle Division, formed according to the order of the State Defense Committee dated August 11, 41 in the city of Buzuluk, Chkalovskaya (Orenburg) Region. Was completed with conscripts from the Chkalovsk region.
                    - 365 SD, formed on the basis of the decision of the NGO of August 18, 1941. The formation took place in the Kamyshlov camps of the UrVo. The main regions for mobilizing personnel were the Sverdlovsk and Molotovsk (Perm) regions.
                    - 371 SD, formed from September 1, 41g. in the Chebarkul camps of the Chelyabinsk region. It was mainly staffed with conscripts from the Chelyabinsk and Sverdlovsk regions, partly from the Bashkir Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and the recovering wounded.
                    - 379 SD, formed from August 24, 1941. in the Ural Military District in the city of Kungur.
                    - 18 cd, Traces its history from the 18th Mining Cavalry Turkmen Red Banner Division of the Central Asian Military District, while the stadiv-18 is in the Military Garrison of the city of Mary of the Turkmen SSR. By the summer of 1941 it was part of the 4th Cavalry Corps SAVO. In the active army from August 27 to September 5, 1941: participated in the Iranian operation. In October 1941, it was reorganized into the cavalry division of the same name. On the German-Soviet front from November 14, 1941 to August 7, 1942, after it was disbanded.
                    - 24 cd, at the beginning of the war was part of the Transcaucasian Military District, Kirovabad
                    - 46 CD, the formation of the division began in the Volga Military District in the Chkalovsk region in Totsk in July 1941. As part of the active army during the Great Patriotic War from September 18, 1941 to August 7, 1942.
                    - 82 cd, formed in October 1941 in the Ural Military District (Krasnoufimsk).
                    - 58 TD, formed in March 1941. in the Far East as part of 30MK (58, 60 td 239md). On June 22, 1941, the division was part of the 30MK of the 1st Separate Red Banner Army of the Far Eastern Front.
                    In connection with the difficult situation that developed near Moscow in the fall of 41, the division was sent to the front where it arrived in early November 41.
                    - 107th infantry division, before the start of hostilities was in the Far Eastern Federal District in Blagoveshchensk, as 69th rifle division, with the beginning of the war left for the front. On July 15, 1941, it was reorganized into the 107th Panzer Division, on September 16, 1941, due to the almost complete loss of tanks, it was reorganized into the 107th Motorized Rifle Division.
                    - 8 otbr, formed on the basis of the Directive of the Deputy. NKO No. 725373ss dated September 14, 1941 in Kosterevo from the remaining units of the 32nd and 2nd tank divisions. Was staffed mainly by volunteer workers from the Leningrad Kirov Plant
                    - 21 scraps, formed on the basis of the Directive of the Deputy. NGO No. 725444ss dated 22.09.1941 in Vladimir on the basis of the 34th TD.
                    Total in the army, TWO "Far Eastern" divisions
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 23 February 2021 19: 40
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                      At 01.12.1941 year joined the front 50th Army, composed of:
                      - 154 SD, formed in early July 1940 in the Volga Military District in the city of Ulyanovsk. It was staffed mainly by residents of the Volga region
                      On 22.6.1941, the division (437th, 473rd, 510th rifle division, 580th rifle division) is part of the 66th squadron of 21 A RGK. The division was in the process of being transferred from the Volga Region
                      - 217 SD, was created on the basis of territorial rifle regiments located in the areas of Borisoglebsk, Novokhopersk and Buturlinovka (Voronezh region) by order of the People's Commissariat of Defense. The location of its headquarters was the city of Borisoglebsk. Having finished mobilizing and putting together parts, the division in full force departed to the front.
                      - 258 RD, formed in the second half of July 1941 in the city of Orel.
                      Basically, its staffing took place at the expense of the reserve of privates, sergeants and officers of the Oryol, Voronezh and Tambov regions. Part of the officer corps came from the troops and military schools of the Oryol military district.
                      - 290 SD, was formed by decree No. GKO-207ss dated 19.07.41. On the formation of new divisions, in the Moscow Military District, the deployment of Kalyazin - by 28.07.41
                      The rank and file and junior command personnel of the division were recruited from senior military personnel of Kalyazinsky and neighboring areas. The middle command staff came from the Kamyshlov and Stalingrad military schools.
                      - 299 SD, was formed by decree No. GKO-207ss dated 19.07.41. On the formation of new divisions. ... 299 RD - OrVO - deployment Belgorod - to 16.08.41
                      Formed in August 1941 in the city of Belgorod.
                      - 413 SD, was formed on the basis of the directive of the Far Eastern Front of June 28, 1941. from parts 27 app. sbr and Special building building in the Amur region. It included 735 participants in the battles near Lake Khasan, on the river. Khalkhin Gol and the Soviet-Finnish war. Major General Tereshkov was appointed commander of the division. Until September 1, the division was manned with personnel called up in the Siberian and Central Asian Military District.
                      - 4 cd, 11.07.1941/210/4 an order was issued to reorganize the XNUMX motorized division again into the XNUMXth cavalry division.
                      TO THE COMMANDER OF THE WESTERN FRONT AND ORLOVSKY MILITARY DISTRICT ON THE RESTORATION OF THE 4TH CAVALERIA DIVISION. Copies: the inspector of the Red Army cavalry, the head of the organizational department of the General Staff. July 11, 1941 The headquarters of the order: 1. 210th motorized division (the former 4th cavalry division) withdrawn from the battle and concentrate by July 13 in the region of Bryansk, where to reorganize it into the 4th cavalry division ... 2. The commander of the Air Defense Forces by the specified time to concentrate the manpower and horse staff in the Bryansk region to staff the division. … Zhukov
                      - 31 cd, formed in July 1941 in the Oryol VO (Voronezh region), deployed in Budyonny.
                      - 41 CD, the formation of the division began in Shuya, Ivanovo region in July 1941, according to the cut-down states.
                      - 34 smallpox of the NKVD, in accordance with the order of the NKVD of the USSR 001405 of 26.09.1941/34/1 "On the formation of the 34th rifle regiment of operational troops": "XNUMX. Form the XNUMXth Rifle Regiment OV - according to the attached state and deploy - the station Pravda of the Yaroslavl railway.
                      The personnel and property of the disbanded 171st and 84th regiments of the internal troops of the NKVD should be used to recruit the regiment.
                      - 156 smallpox of the NKVD, Based on the mobilization deployment scheme, the 114th separate battalion was formed from the Tula company, which, by order No. 00961 of 23.07.1941, was reorganized into the 156th regiment, the location of the city of Tula
                      - 108 td, Formed in March 1941. in the Far East as a 59 separate tank division, stationed in the Khabarovsk region.
                      22.6.1941/118/119 division (59th and 59th TP, 2th MRP, XNUMXth Guards) is part of the XNUMXnd Separate Red Banner Army of the Far Eastern Front.
                      With the beginning of the war, he went to the Western Front, on the way it was transformed into the 108th TD.
                      - 11 brigades, the formation of the brigade took place from September 2 to October 3, 1941 in the village of Kosterevo, Moscow region on the basis of the 217th tank regiment, according to the changed states No. 010 / 75-010 / 83, 010/87 dated September 13, 1941
                      - 32 otbr, formed on the basis of the Directive of the Deputy. NKO No. 725444ss dated 22.09.1941 in the Moscow ABT Center (Vladimir) on the basis of the 32nd tank regiment and the personnel of the 9th reserve tank regiment.
                      The army has two "Far Eastern" divisions
                    2. svp67
                      svp67 24 February 2021 06: 28
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                      Formations and units of front-line subordination on November 01, 1941
                      - 19 Rifle Division, on June 22, the division was located near Voronezh in the Maslov camps, where summer training and exercises were held.
                      - 78th rifle division, was formed on June 6, 1939 in Novosibirsk. After 5 days, it is loaded into trains and on June 29 arrives at the station. Guberovo, Primorsky Territory, takes up defense along the state border. In October 1939 it was redeployed to Khabarovsk and later existed as a territorial division, consisted of one rifle regiment and support units (6 people).
                      In the spring of 1941, it was redeployed to the Primorsky Territory and deployed to full states (12 people). It included the 000st rifle brigade (1 rifle regiments), stationed in Vladivostok on the First River. The division headquarters is also located in Vladivostok. The main forces of the division were deployed to cover the border of Primorye along the Ussuri River from Iman (Dalnerechensk) to st. Burlit (2 km along the front) and were involved in months-long exercises of the Far Eastern Front. The field headquarters is located in the village. Znamenka Pozharsky District. These exercises on the eve of the war, in conditions close to combat, played an important role in the formation of the division as a strong combat-ready military unit.
                      In October 1941, the division was transferred from the Far East to Moscow
                      - 108 SD, formed in 1939 and was part of the 44th rifle corps, stationed in Vyazma.
                      - 129 RD, formed in 1940 in Stalingrad. In July 1941 it was deployed to the west, at the end of November 1941 it was disbanded due to the loss of combat capability. Remaining personnel. weapons and equipment were transferred to the staffing of other ZapF formations, the name and banner were transferred to another, newly formed division
                      - 173 Rifle Division, formed in July 1941 in Moscow as the 21st division of the people's militia of the Kiev region. On September 25, 12 divisions of the Moscow people's militia, according to the order of the Reserve Front No. 04/00407, received new serial numbers. 21st day became 173rd. A division with the same number of the first formation in early August 41g. died in the Uman cauldron.
                      - 23 otbr, formed on the basis of the Directive of the Deputy. NGO No. 725444ss dated 22.09.1941 in the Moscow ABT Center (Kosterevo).
                      - 26 otbr, formed on the basis of the Directive of the Deputy. NGO No. 725444ss dated 22.09.1941 in the Gorky ABT Center (Dzerzhinsk).
                      On December 01, 1941:
                      - 106 and 173 RD,
                      - 239 RD, formed in March 1941 in the Far East as the 239th Motorized Division. In early August 41g. the division was reorganized into the 239th rifle division. 817mp became small, 813mp and 112tp were transferred to the newly formed 112td, instead of 813mp, 813sp and 239sp were formed from the recruits of the Krasnoyarsk Territory and Novosib. region ..
                      On October 17, 1941, the division received an order to move to the west.
                      - 18 OSBR, (cadet) formed in pursuance of the resolution of the State Defense Committee No. 796ss of October 14 in the Oryol Military District
                      - 1 Guards. CD, on 22.06.41/2/XNUMX as part of the XNUMXnd Cavalry Corps of the OdVO.
                      Dislocation of the division - Art. Paris, Bessarabia. as 5 cd, converted to 1 guards cd 26.11.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX
                      - 2 Guards. kd, transformed 26.11.1941/9/22.06.1941 from the XNUMXth Crimean named after Council of People's Commissars of the Ukrainian SSR kd., Until XNUMX, part of the OdVO
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    1. Destiny
      Destiny 15 February 2021 05: 48
      +10
      Quote: WFP
      The genius of the general saved Moscow

      Not even this, but this is what

      Of course, a significant role in this defeat was also played by the fact that the German army at that time was not supplied with the necessary insulated uniforms, and in cold weather weapons with summer lubricant refused.

      General Frost won.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 15 February 2021 06: 32
        +6
        Of course, a significant role in this defeat was also played by the fact that the German army at that time was not supplied with the necessary insulated uniforms, and in cold weather weapons with summer lubricant refused.

        The link went to:
        https://topwar.ru/armament/weapons/
        Rather, General Frost paralyzed equipment and weaponsnot prepared for winter operation. And the lack of warm uniforms became a makeweight to the "hospitality" of the Red Army soldiers.
        1. Destiny
          Destiny 15 February 2021 06: 59
          +17
          Yes, but this is what the author said about General Frost, and I expressed my opinion in a comment, which was deleted for some reason.
          The Soviet people won.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 15 February 2021 08: 30
            +8
            Quote: Destiny
            Yes, but this is what the author said about General Frost, and I expressed my opinion in a comment, which was deleted for some reason.

            And I have already figured out where and whose quote it is. In your message, the phrase “General Frost has won” has undergone an additional comment.
            But the author in the sentence:
            Of course, a significant role in this defeat was also played by the fact that the German army at that time was not supplied with the necessary insulated uniforms, and in the cold weapon with summer grease failed.

            under the word "weapon", a link to (mostly) small arms opens. And frost is not only a "penguin stance", but also frozen oil, and frozen fuel, etc.
            I agree with you one hundred percent that the Soviet people won in the USSR, because we needed one Victory for all:
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 16 February 2021 09: 12
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          These are the enemy's troubles. We must prepare for war. If this is not done then this is only their problem. I could never understand why people focus so much on this. General Frost blah blah blah. Any miscalculation in planning is a mistake. This is what the other side will immediately notice. If you go out to fight and your opponent is injured, then I know about it. And I use it. Although I do not agree about the genius of the commander. Framed divisions, as it were, have been created for this since 36. He just did what he had to. But that doesn't take away from the fact that he was a great commander.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 15 February 2021 07: 02
        +3
        Quote: Destiny
        General Frost won.

        According to Barbarossa's plan, the war was to end in November. So it's not about grandfather with a cotton beard.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 16 February 2021 09: 19
          +1
          What is surprising, since the German pedantry predicts all options. Overconfidence overshadowed reason.
        2. Siberian54
          Siberian54 20 February 2021 15: 52
          +1
          the first three months the Germans spent on the eastern front from 1780 to 1400 echelons of ammunition. In the attack on Moscow-700 at the beginning and 300 (for the entire front) by the end of the offensive, and these ammunition came from the strategic reserve. They simply did not have enough ammunition,
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 15 February 2021 06: 42
    -3
    Thank you very much!
    Described thoroughly and conscientiously.
  • icant007
    icant007 15 February 2021 07: 06
    +12
    A pointless dispute - Siberians, Urals, Far Easterners. What is it for?
    Panfilov's division was generally formed in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 15 February 2021 07: 55
      +2
      Quote: icant007
      Panfilov's division was generally formed in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan.

      In SAVO.
      Quote: icant007
      A pointless dispute - Siberians, Urals, Far East.

      yes
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 15 February 2021 08: 32
        +10
        Quote: Humpty
        A pointless dispute - Siberians, Urals, Far East.

        And a stupid argument, and vile in such a wording.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 15 February 2021 08: 31
      +5
      Quote: icant007
      A pointless dispute - Siberians, Urals, Far Easterners. What is it for?
      Panfilov's division was generally formed in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan.

      Placing our Victory in the township apartments is the number one task for the liberals. angry Not a search for the truth. Contrast and play off.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 16 February 2021 09: 21
        +1
        I think no. It's more like evaluating actions. And from any point of view, this transfer is unique. We must not forget about it
  • Ren
    Ren 15 February 2021 07: 08
    +14
    During the war years, a legend began to spread deliberately that Siberians had saved Moscow in 1941. The military secret did not allow then to tell the truth that they were in fact the Far East. Who exactly came up with the idea to call Primorye and Khabarovsk residents "Siberians" is not known for certain.

    The article is provocative and aimed at inciting and opposing !!! am
    Siberia - as a historical territory from the Urals to the Pacific Ocean, according to, for example, TSB:
    Siberia is a territory that occupies most of Northern Asia from the Urals in the West to the mountain ranges of the Pacific watershed in the East and from the shores of the Arctic Ocean in the North to the hilly steppes of the Kazakh SSR and the border with Mongolia and China in the South. The area is about 10 million km2. The Buryat ASSR, Tuva ASSR and Yakut ASSR are located within Siberia; Altai and Krasnoyarsk Territories; Tyumen, Kurgan, Omsk, Novosibirsk, Tomsk, Kemerovo, Irkutsk and Chita regions of the RSFSR. As a historical region, Siberia includes the Far East.

    It's like asking a question - who won the Second World War, the Soviet people or Russians, Tatars, Kazakhs or Belarusians, i.e. highlighting and emphasizing individual ethnic groups in the Soviet people.
    Siberians are the unifying names of Novosibirsk, Kuzbass, Primorye, Khabarovsk, Kamchadals, etc. in general, i.e. people living in the historical territory of the Siberia region.
    hi
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 15 February 2021 07: 56
      +6
      "the historical territory from the Urals to the Pacific Ocean" the author has his own ideas about geography
      1. Siberian54
        Siberian54 20 February 2021 15: 57
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        The impression that the article is a quality translation from English
        1. vladcub
          vladcub 21 February 2021 08: 49
          +1
          If Apanasenko knew. He would have surrounded it with three floors. Will she be delighted too?
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 15 February 2021 07: 56
      +2
      Quote: Ren
      The article is provocative and aimed at inciting and opposing !!!

      Despite the fact that this incitement is covered by the theme of the Great Patriotic War.
      And such manipulation is doubly outrageous.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 15 February 2021 08: 10
        +1
        Quote: Flood
        And such manipulation is doubly outrageous.

        They hide behind their aunt.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 15 February 2021 08: 15
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          Quote: bober1982
          Hiding behind aunt

          Moderators?
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 15 February 2021 08: 18
            +2
            And who is Irina Frolova? age, education, maybe it's a phantom.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 15 February 2021 08: 19
              +2
              Quote: bober1982
              And who is Irina Frolova? age, education, maybe it's a phantom.

              I do not care. The result is important. And he does not stand up to criticism.
              1. bober1982
                bober1982 15 February 2021 08: 26
                +4
                Quote: Flood
                And he does not stand up to criticism.

                So, this is the fourth article - and everything does not stand up to criticism, but with enviable persistence they push through.
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 16 February 2021 09: 25
        -1
        Guys, forgive me, but you are talking some kind of nonsense) you get to the Far East while ignoring the fact of the unique transfer of Soviet troops. Yes. We are the Far East. And then there are Siberians and Crimeans. ) Russians), in fact, now divide people by geography and why?)
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 16 February 2021 09: 51
          +1
          Quote: carstorm 11
          I'm sorry, but you are talking some kind of nonsense) you get to the Far East while ignoring the fact of the unique transfer of Soviet troops.

          it's not about that at all, dear.
          The very formulation of the question - who saved Moscow, the Siberians or the Far East - is, to put it mildly, not correct.
          she is not only unfair towards all defenders of the capital, but also drives a wedge between representatives of a single people
          Besides, as rightly already noted in the comments, conscripts from all over the Union served in the Far Eastern units.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 16 February 2021 09: 53
            -1
            What is it about it?) Does the fact that the Russian people from the Far East came to defend the capital somehow infringes on you?) I’m not at all) looking for more deposits is quite common. Just all the same Soviet)
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 16 February 2021 10: 15
              +1
              you catch the difference between
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Russian people from the Far East came to defend the capital

              и
              who saved Moscow in 1941: Siberians or Far Easterners

              Don't you understand that the author thereby belittles the heroism and sacrifice of all participants in the defense of Moscow?
              all the best.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 16 February 2021 12: 18
                +1
                Sorry, but I don't see it)
    3. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 15 February 2021 09: 49
      +4
      Ren "As a historical region, Siberia includes the Far East."
      Well, Duc author zhzhot.)))) For her, it's not a fact.))) What did you write? I'm afraid I didn't understand myself.)))
  • Van 16
    Van 16 15 February 2021 07: 10
    +1
    Many thanks for the article, we must not forget such people.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 15 February 2021 07: 12
    +15
    an interesting perdimonocle comes out: an excerpt from this article by I. Frolova:
    almost every city that was affected by the war has streets named after Siberian divisions.

    However, it is difficult to find out something specific about the Siberian divisions in the Central Archives of the Ministry of Defense or in the memoirs of our military leaders.

    The documents in the Central Archives are classified. And indefinitely. Presumably, by personal order of Stalin.


    and here is what we read in the article by R. Skomorokhov and A. Staver from 2018:
    Almost every city that has been affected by the war has streets named after Siberian divisions.

    However, if you try to find out about the Siberian divisions in the Central Archives of the Ministry of Defense or in the memoirs of our military leaders, you will not find such information.

    The documents in the Central Archives are classified, and they are classified indefinitely! They say it was on the personal instructions of Comrade Stalin.

    Even the photos in the articles are the same.

    apparently, it is necessary, at least, to refer to such borrowings ...
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 15 February 2021 07: 31
      +11
      Quote: Olgovich
      apparently, it is necessary, at least, to refer to such borrowings ...

      From nehru to do I took a piece from the article, and threw it on anti-plagiarism. Result:
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 16 February 2021 09: 28
      +2
      They are secret because of the radio game and the mobilization that was carried out. This is a necessity
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 15 February 2021 07: 22
    +3
    Who (saved) Moscow? -Siberians, Far Easterners? -I would answer this question a little differently. The intelligence officers of the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Japanese and Asian directions in general saved Moscow, providing concrete information about the non-aggression of Japan on the USSR at a critical moment. And also people in the People's Commissariat of Railways organized the transfer of units without congestion and delays.
  • Million
    Million 15 February 2021 07: 26
    +6
    It was a common Victory! No need to pull the blanket over to which side. Not a good article ...
  • bober1982
    bober1982 15 February 2021 07: 44
    +3
    General Apanasenko is an honored, military commander, his memory is blessed, but to engage in frank myth-making, in my opinion, is wrong.
    All these speculations and studies are not so harmless, and this applies not only to the theme of the Great Patriotic War.
    Take, for example, church myth-making - all these myrrh streams, the manifestations of angels, miracles, etc.
    The wicked and adulterous generation is looking for signs
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 15 February 2021 07: 53
    0
    The first jamb in the article is "Russian troops." Soviet troops. Already shuddered, if you write analytical articles, please be precise. Besides, I am a Siberian in the devil knows what generation. And here you are shitting in my soul - so my grandfather died in vain near Moscow? Wasn't he defending your damn Moscow? Oh, fucking analysts - agree before splitting the country.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 15 February 2021 08: 18
      +5
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      Wasn't he defending your damn Moscow?

      A hand reached out to support your comment.
      And then she drew back, as soon as I read to this phrase of yours.
      As a result, by and large, how are you better than this author?
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 15 February 2021 08: 30
        +1
        Dear, no need to support me, I am always on my own. And it's yours (or not yours) plus or minus infuriates me more than Navalny, Psaki and Leontyev. Thanks for the reaching out though. Have you ever thought that a minus is much better than a plus? And I'm also a rather emotional person - I speak as it should be, and if I messed up somewhere, well now - I'm sorry.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 15 February 2021 08: 34
          -2
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          Dear, do not support me

          It's not up to you to decide, but me.
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          And it's yours (or not yours) plus or minus infuriates me more than Navalny, Psaki and Leontyev.

          All claims to the administration of the forum.
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          Have you ever thought that a minus is much better than a plus?

          Applied to the situation. It's obvious.
          I will not give you a minus, you will not wait.
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          And I'm also quite an emotional person - I speak as it should be, and if I messed up somewhere, well now - I'm sorry.

          Well, we have reached the main point. All the best to you and Siberian health.
          1. Sergey Averchenkov
            Sergey Averchenkov 15 February 2021 08: 43
            +1
            Thank. Siberian health is a myth - we are sick like everyone else.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 15 February 2021 09: 04
              0
              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              Thank. Siberian health is a myth - we are sick like everyone else.

              I had one familiar robot.
              I tell him: "I wish you, my dear robot friend, iron health"
              And he take it and answer: "iron health is a myth. We rust like everyone else."
              And what do you think? I had to give him a short lecture about figurative expressions in Russian.
              1. Sergey Averchenkov
                Sergey Averchenkov 15 February 2021 09: 09
                0
                Do you want to talk? Well, I'm ready - I was really offended by the wording of this article on the account of the Siberian regiments ... What is this going on? Today it is like that tomorrow? Will there be anything else the day after tomorrow? And then something else?
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 15 February 2021 09: 14
                  +2
                  Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                  I was really offended by the wording of this article about the Siberian regiments

                  The article is unhealthy, pathological, outrageous. Here I agree with you. The entire Soviet people contributed to the defense of the capital of the USSR. And there is nothing to share.
                  1. Sergey Averchenkov
                    Sergey Averchenkov 15 February 2021 09: 27
                    0
                    Which, in principle, I wanted to hear. And this division ... those are more, these are less - it is disgusting to me.
            2. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 20 February 2021 19: 49
              0
              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              Thank. Siberian health is a myth - we are sick like everyone else.

              That's right.
      2. bober1982
        bober1982 15 February 2021 08: 33
        +1
        Quote: Flood
        As a result, by and large, how are you better than this author?

        This is what the article is counting on, do not contact them.
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 15 February 2021 17: 19
      0
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      The first jamb in the article is "Russian troops." Soviet troops. Already shuddered, if you write analytical articles, please be precise. Besides, I am a Siberian in the devil knows what generation. And here you are shitting in my soul - so my grandfather died in vain near Moscow? Wasn't he defending your damn Moscow? Oh, fucking analysts - agree before splitting the country.

      So they agreed long ago, first - the Union, now it is the turn of the Russian Federation. And there is no one to stop them - world capital is more united than ever. And ours are among them. For - nothing personal, just business.
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 15 February 2021 08: 16
    +3
    The Soviet people won, our Red Soviet Army won, and what's the difference where the divisions came from ... why is this division - Siberians, Far Easterners, and so on ... what is the meaning of the article? Yes, the name of General Apanasenko must be honored and remembered how to honor and remember all the fallen ..... superficial article, like a school essay
  • bubalik
    bubalik 15 February 2021 08: 18
    +5
    At the places of deployment of departing people and equipment, by the efforts of General Apanasenko, new units were immediately created under the same numbers. An armament program for newly created units was deployed based on available resources without assistance center.

    ,,, well, as much as possible from article to article fool ... Something cannot arise from the empty.

    The necessary draft contingents were constantly sent to the Far East: young people, liable for military reserves, and not only the Far Eastern regions of the country and Siberia, but also the European part of the Soviet Union. Only from the Moscow military district to the Far Eastern Front and the Trans-Baikal Military District in 1942-1943. arrived 300 thousand recruits. After completing combat training here, some of these conscripts remained in the Far East, some returned to continue serving in their area, and some went to the front.
    Red Banner Far East. P. 149; Russian archive: Great Patriotic War: General Staff during the Great Patriotic War. 1941 M., 1998. T. 23 (2-1). P. 77
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 15 February 2021 08: 43
      +5
      ,,, the number of machine guns in a rifle division from June 22, 1941 to May 9, 1945 increased almost 21 times, light machine guns - more than two times. During the war, the artillery park of the Far Eastern group of ground forces increased 1,8 times ... In 1943 alone, the Trans-Baikal and Far Eastern fronts received more than 8 guns and mortars, or 23,8 percent of the supplies during this time of the same type of weapons to the active army. In the summer of 1942, the Supreme Command Headquarters found an opportunity to send one a rocket artillery regiment in the Far Eastern and Trans-Baikal fronts.
      ,,, and there was no help from the center?
  • bubalik
    bubalik 15 February 2021 09: 07
    +5
    the legend spread that Siberians saved Moscow in 1941.

    “Siberian divisions are an invention of the Germans, for whom any man in warm clothes is already a Siberian. Of course, units from Siberia made a significant contribution to the defeat of the Germans near Moscow. Divisions from Kazakhstan and the Far East distinguished themselves on the Mozhaisk defense line.

    However, the main role here was played by units formed mainly from residents of the Moscow region, the Urals, Udmurtia. And on November 7, 1941, at the famous Parade on Red Square, a division formed in Ivanovo marched.

    The militias also made a small contribution, although most of them died in the Vyazemsky cauldron in October 1941, while others, newly formed, supported the counteroffensive only at the end of December, when a significant part of the tasks had already been solved. "
    (C)

    Alexey Isaev
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 15 February 2021 09: 11
    +5

    Moscow was saved by the Soviet people.
    And the Far East, and Siberians, and Muscovites ....
    Near Moscow, in one mass grave, lie two of my Panfilov uncles. So they saved Moscow, the USSR and the whole world from fascism.
  • Million
    Million 15 February 2021 09: 17
    +1
    Now a strange trend has emerged: the overall Victory is being pulled apart.
    For example: in our city they made a monument to the soldiers-energy workers, although the city was defended by the Workers' Regiment ...
    I am not belittling the merits of the power engineers, but the soldiers of other industries are not worthy of memory?
  • bubalik
    bubalik 15 February 2021 10: 19
    +2
    that the German army at that time was not provided with the necessary insulated uniforms, and in frosts, weapons with summer lubrication refused. While the Soviet troops were all right with this, including the "Siberians".
    ,,, hmm what... If only we could see the losses of the sides during the Moscow defensive operation.
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 15 February 2021 10: 27
    +3
    "The disputes about who exactly are Moscow's kuspas do not console" I know from school that all the people have risen to their homeland. But Frolova probably didn't go to a Soviet school? I see no other explanation. In the Soviet Union, there was no question of an alternative history
  • bubalik
    bubalik 15 February 2021 10: 29
    +3
    And Apanasenko ordered the prosecutor's office to check the cases of the prisoners. And also to identify everyone who can be released and sent to the troops.

    After all, he organized all this on his own initiative and under his personal responsibility. Moreover, with the disapproving attitude of a number of his closest assistants. And with complete indifference and even irony of the center.
    wassat

    On the submission of the NKVD of the USSR, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on July 12 and November 24, 1941 issued Decrees on the early release of certain categories of prisoners convicted of truancy, domestic and minor official and economic crimes, with the transfer of persons of conscription age to the Red Army.
    On July 12, 1941, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet adopted a decree "On the release from punishment of those convicted of certain categories of crimes." In accordance with this decree, in the areas declared under martial law, prisoners convicted were subject to release: by decrees of July 26 and August 10, 1940
    On November 24, 1941, the Presidium of the USSR Supreme Soviet extended the decree of July 12, 1941 to all areas of the USSR and made a decision on the additional release of some categories of prisoners, for example, former military personnel convicted of untimely attendance at the military unit and insignificant official, economic and military crimes committed before the start of the war, while they were transferred to units of the active army. Disabled persons with disabilities, old people who had the remainder of their sentence of up to 3 years, except for those convicted of counter-revolutionary crimes, were also subject to release.
    In pursuance of the Decrees of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, 420.000 prisoners were released by the GULAG.

    By special decisions of the State Defense Committee, during 1942-1943. 157.000 people from among those convicted of minor crimes were released early and transferred to the ranks of the Red Army.

    In addition, according to the order established by the Gulag, all prisoners released from camps and colonies for serving sentences who were fit for military service were also transferred to the army.

    In just three years of the Patriotic War, 975.000 people were transferred to manning the Red Army.
    ,,, and Aponasenko built everything on his own, on his own initiative and built the road himself.

    During the war years, more than 2.000.000 people were sent to the construction of the NKVD and to forced labor camps at the expense of receipts from prisons and in the order of redistribution of prisoners between the camps, including:

    railway construction - 448.000.
    mining and metallurgical -171.000
    industrial construction - 310.000
    airfield and highway construction - 268.000
    forestry camps - 320.000
    construction of aircraft factories in the mountains. Kuibyshev, metallurgical plants in N. Tagil, Chelyabinsk, Aktyubinsk and Transcaucasia, Norilsk plant, Dzhida plant. Bogoslovsky aluminum plant, construction of the North-Pechora railway. dor. main line, the strategic railway Saratov-Stalingrad, the construction of the Komsomolsk-Sovgavan railway, an oil refinery in Kuibyshev.
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 15 February 2021 10: 43
    +4
    The transfer of troops began in those days under the personal control of Apanasenko.
    Ten Far Eastern divisions, along with a thousand tanks and aircraft, were to be sent along the Trans-Siberian Railway near Moscow.

    In fact, the transfer went not only near Moscow.
    Here is a complete list of the divisions transferred from the Far Eastern Fleet and the ZabVO in 1941:
    Tank, rifle and motorized rifle divisions deployed west in 1941:
    59 TD from the 2nd SC, FEF in July is transferred to Smolensk with a simultaneous reorganization of 108 TD.
    69 md from the composition of the 2nd spacecraft, FEF in July is transferred to Smolensk with a simultaneous reorganization of 107 TD.
    21 RD from the 26th SC of the 1st KA, DVF in August-September is transferred to Karelia, to the southern task force of the 7th Division. AND
    26 sd from the 26th sk 1st 11st SC, FEF in August-September is transferred to the North-Western Front, to the XNUMXth Army
    32 SD from the 25th A, FEF in September is transferred to the Volkhov, in the 4th division. AND
    114 sd from the 36th A, ZabVO in September is being transferred to Karelia, to the southern task force of the 7th division. AND
    58 TD from the 1st SC, Far Eastern Front in October is transferred to Moscow, to the 30th A of the Western Front.
    60 TD from the 15th A, FEF in October is transferred to the Volkhov, in the 4th division. AND.
    78 sd from the 35th A, Far Eastern Front in October is transferred to Moscow, to the 16th A of the Western Front.
    82 msd from the 17th A, ZabVO in October is transferred under Moscow, to the 5th A of the Western Front.
    92 SD from the 25th A, FEF in October is transferred to the Volkhov, in the 4th division. AND.
    93 sd from the 36th A, ZabVO in October is transferred to Moscow, to the 43rd A of the Western Front.
    413 sd from the composition of the 1st SC, the Far Eastern Front in October is transferred under Serpukhov to the 50th A of the Bryansk Front.
    65 sd from the 36th A, ZabVO in October-November is transferred under the Volkhov and enters the 4th detachment. AND

    415 sd from the structure of the 25th A, the Far Eastern Front in November-December is transferred under Serpukhov to the 49th A of the Western Front.
    239 sd from the composition of the 1st spacecraft, the Far Eastern Front in December is transferred under Ryazan to the 10th A of the Western Front.

    Of the eight October divisions, three were transferred to the North-West to save Leningrad.
  • bubalik
    bubalik 15 February 2021 11: 04
    +3
    During the Civil War, he commanded a brigade and a division.

    Report of the Extraordinary Commission of Inquiry to the Revolutionary Military Council of the 1st Cavalry on the crimes of the soldiers of the 6th Cavalry Division.



    ,,, Already from the first days of the withdrawal of parts of the 6th Cavalry Division, it began to appear in the
    good groups, the mood - "we are going to clean the rear of the Jews", "we are going to connect '
    fight with daddy Makhno "," beat the Jews, commissars and communists. " Commands'
    the new commissioner from the very first days did not take any measures to the locale '
    zation of mood.

    ,,, During the further movement of the units to the Lyubar metro station, a uniform
    thunder, and, according to stories, about 60 Jews were killed there - again,
    the mandated staff did not take measures to eliminate the pogrom and to catch '
    pogromists. Then, already during our stay in the 6th Cavalry Division, in
    the town of Priluki and Vakhnovka, wineries were destroyed,
    thunders. In Priluki, 21 people were killed, 12 wounded and many women were raped
    and children. According to the stories of the townsfolk, women were raped in the street before our eyes
    at all, many of the prettier girls were taken to the train. 20 killed in Vakhnovka
    the number of wounded and raped is unknown and 18 houses were burned down.
    During the pogrom in Priluki, the entire commission was entirely direct
    a witness to the disintegration of units of the 6th Cavalry Division and complete inaction,
    if not to say connivance, the command staff.

    ,,, On business
    demoralization of units, inaction of the authorities, failure to take measures to protect the population '
    and, consequently, connivance with pogroms must be attracted to ot '
    responsibility of the chief of division Apanasenko, brigades of the 1st and 2nd [brigades], Knigu and Po '
    rowing, and the entire commanding staff of the 33rd [regiment]; 3rd squadron of the 33rd regiment
    subject to total liquidation 252.

    Only with such measures can the hooligan element be caught and revived '
    find the position of the parts
  • Trilobite Master
    Trilobite Master 15 February 2021 12: 30
    +7
    You can consider me a male chauvinist, but while reading the article, I repeatedly thought that the author is most likely a woman. The presentation is chaotic, from the fifth to the tenth, back and forth, back and forth, and why all this is heaped up is not clear.
    I would advise the author not to engage in research work anymore, and if you really want to create for the public, try to realize yourself in the genre of fiction - light stories, where systemic thinking and discipline of the mind are not required.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 February 2021 12: 32
    +1
    And what kind of inhuman is trying to drive a wedge into our unity, what is the difference between Siberians and the Far East? Moscow was defended by Soviet soldiers, they shed all their blood, that's the whole story. It's just stupid Banderlog ascribe to themselves the Ukrainian fronts. hi
  • BAI
    BAI 15 February 2021 13: 43
    +3
    It seems that the author and the Great Patriotic War live on different planets.
    1.
    The military secret did not allow then to tell the truth that they were in fact the Far East.

    The author is aware that as soon as the division entered into a clash, the Germans immediately determined who was in front of them and from where, according to the documents of those killed and captured? Or through intelligence even earlier. The military secret is here for one reason - all military transportation, especially during the war, is secret.
    2.
    the term "Siberian divisions" itself, in general, was coined by the Germans.

    Of course. For the Germans, any person from the territory east of the Urals is a Siberian. Thank God he’s not a Tartarian. The 32nd Infantry Division was formed in Saratov, then transferred to the Far East. From there - to Moscow. And how do you count this division?
    3. Monument to Siberians.
    Unfortunately, the author came up here superficially and saw only the largest inscription. If she looked a little more carefully, she would have seen the following: on the memorial plaques ALL units that fought in the Istra region are listed:
    16th Army (2nd formation) - Major General K.K.Rokossovsky
    9th Guards Rifle Division (until November 26, 1941, 78th Rifle Division) - Major General A.P. Beloborodov
    11th Guards Rifle Division (formed on January 5, 1942 by transforming the 18th Rifle Division) - Colonel P.N. Chernyshev
    8th Guards Rifle Division (until November 18, 1941, 316th Rifle Division) - Major General I.V. Panfilov
    354th Infantry Division - Colonel D. F. Alekseev
    36th separate cadet rifle brigade - Colonel M.P. Koponenko
    40th separate rifle brigade - Colonel V. F. Samoilenko
    49th separate rifle brigade - Colonel V. N. Yakimov
    301st machine gun battalion
    302st machine gun battalion
    17th Tank Brigade - Colonel N. A. Chernoyarov
    22nd Tank Brigade - Lieutenant Colonel I.P. Ermakov
    23rd Tank Brigade - Colonel E. E. Belov
    25th Tank Brigade - Colonel I. V. Dubovoy
    27th Tank Brigade - Lieutenant Colonel F.M. Mikhailin
    33rd Tank Brigade - Lieutenant Colonel S. L. Gontarev
    145th Tank Brigade - Major General M.D. Solomatin (from 12.11.1941/19.11.1941/08.09.1941 to 19.11.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX); Major General F.T. Remizov (officially from XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, actually from XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX)
    146th Tank Brigade (2nd formation) - Colonel S.I.Tokarev
    471st Artillery Regiment (from 8.01.1942/2/XNUMX XNUMXnd Guards Artillery Regiment) - Major I.P. Azarenkov
    2nd Guards Cavalry Corps - Major General L. M. Dovator (up to 17.12.1941/17.12.1941/XNUMX); Major General I.A.Pliev (from XNUMX)
    289th anti-tank fighter regiment (from 8.01.1942/1/XNUMX XNUMXst Guards anti-tank fighter regiment) - Major M.K. Efremenko
    296th anti-tank fighter regiment (from 8.01.1942/2/XNUMX XNUMXnd guards anti-tank fighter regiment) - captain A.S. Aleshkin
    610th Anti-Tank Fighter Regiment
    694th Fighter Anti-Tank Artillery Regiment
    871th Fighter Anti-Tank Artillery Regiment
    13th Guards Mortar Artillery Regiment
    14th Guards Mortar Artillery Regiment
    2nd Separate Guards Mortar Division
    17th Separate Guards Mortar Division (Commander Captain A. I. Artemiev, Chief of Staff - Senior Lieutenant N. S. Zhezheruk)
    35nd Separate Guards Mortar Division
    5th Army - Major General of Artillery L.A. Govorov
    32nd Infantry Division - Colonel V.I.Polosukhin
    108th Infantry Division - Major General I.I.Birichev
    144th Infantry Division - Major General M.A. Pronin
    1st (4th) Guards Tank Brigade - Major General M.E.Katukov
    19th Tank Brigade - Colonel S.A. Kalikhovich
    20th Tank Brigade - Colonel G.P. Antonov (died 14.10.1941/16.12.1941/XNUMX); Colonel N.P. Konstantinov (from XNUMX)
    37th separate rifle brigade
    43th separate rifle brigade
    1st (12th) Guards Signal Regiment
    42nd Guards Separate Motorcycle Engineer Battalion
    145th separate sapper battalion
    When did the 4th tank brigade become Siberian or Far Eastern?
  • Orca
    Orca 15 February 2021 14: 43
    0
    Quote: Bar1
    aunt has some kind of bzyk? Now the USSR / Russia, now Siberia is not the Far East.
    At least look in the reference book.

    As a special regional toponym "Siberia" (Sibir, Sebir) has been recorded in text and cartographic sources since at least the XNUMXth century. At this time, this toponym designates the territory in the middle reaches of the Irtysh, roughly corresponding to the possessions of the Siberian Khanate (the current Sverdlovsk, Kurgan, Chelyabinsk, Tyumen and Omsk regions of the Russian Federation). Since the middle of the XNUMXth century, the Russian use of this toponym has been recorded in relation to the territory controlled by the Moscow state from the Urals to the Pacific Ocean.

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Сибирь
    Before writing such articles, it is necessary to tighten up geography.

    Well, pull up - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalny_Vostok_Russia
  • Orca
    Orca 15 February 2021 16: 37
    0
    Quote: BAI
    It seems that the author and the Great Patriotic War live on different planets.

    I think that you also live on some planet of yours. It is important for you that the lady-author in her essay did not list all the military units indicated on the "sign" with the inscription "The Frontier of Glory Memorial Complex" is precisely the signs, because if the name of the monument (commemorative plaque, etc.) ) are erased, washed away, for various reasons instead of "Glory ..." reads "... ava ..." , obviously in vain sits a chair in his office. In addition, I was literally cut in the eyes "... the Istra region." Since when, and by whose decision, some part of the Moscow region near the city of Istra is officially called the Istra region? Paradoxically, it is about the same as if in the Jewish Autonomous Region of the Khabarovsk Territory there was also the Birov Territory (after the name of the Bira River) or the Londokovsky Territory (after the name of the Londoko station).
    But I, for example, do not understand why in Raichikhinsk, the city of coal miners, where coal is no longer mined, and which is not even the regional center of the Amur Region, there is a street named after I.R. Apanasenko, but in the regional center, in Blagoveshchensk , there is no such street, although there is a street named after Dyachenko, who in the mid-90s was only some 1,5 years as governor, and at meetings of the local "party activist" and the administration, disputes often arise over which street to rename , screwing it somewhere an allegedly historical name, and painfully decide how to name the street in the microdistrict under construction, so that it does not violate anyone's "pocket" interests.
    It's easy, comrade ... how many stars do you have in your pursuit ?! ... to see a speck in someone's eye, right? ... we don't see our logs, as usual; and after all on them and all sorts of filth go, perverting our past, our history.
    ... I'm sorry - nothing personal, just painful.
    1. BAI
      BAI 15 February 2021 17: 50
      0
      In addition, I was literally cut in the eyes "... the Istra region." Since when

      Open the official website of the museum and see who did what, when. And you can ask questions there. The phrase "native land" has no right to exist? And why is it forbidden for residents of the Istra district to use this phrase in relation to themselves? What document?
      ) rubbed out, washed away,

      Nothing was washed away in the documents and articles dedicated to this museum.
  • DrEng527
    DrEng527 15 February 2021 16: 53
    0
    In short, a rehash of the famous work of V. Suvorov, sometimes verbatim ... request
    In any case, it is worth honoring the memory of a not-so-famous commander! hi
  • Konnick
    Konnick 15 February 2021 19: 22
    +1
    Who saved Moscow? This is from the series how Ukraine liberated Auschwitz.
    But seriously, the Far Eastern divisions did not stop, but drove the already stopped Germans away from Moscow, or rather took part in the counteroffensive, along with other units of the Red Army.
    1. Alexey Koshkarov
      Alexey Koshkarov 15 February 2021 20: 20
      0
      And on the Borodino field they were stopped by 28 Panfilovites from Kazakhstan - and this is part of Siberia
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 15 February 2021 21: 21
        0
        Siberia is not Kazakhstan
        1. giwer
          giwer 22 February 2021 16: 06
          0
          February 22 2021
          For information, the source is the Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1901 edition. Administratively, Siberia is divided: 1. Two provinces, Tobolsk and Tomsk (western Siberia). 2. Irkutsk General Governorship (Yenisei, Irkutsk and Yakutsk Provinces) Eastern Siberia. 3. Priamurskaya general governorship (Transbaikal, Amurskaya and Primorskaya oblasts) 4. Steppe general governorship (Akmola, Semirechenskaya and Semipalatinskaya oblasts).
          PM15:59
      2. Konnick
        Konnick 15 February 2021 21: 39
        -1
        On the Borodino field from October 12, the 32nd rifle division of Colonel Polosukhin fought against the regiments of Der Fuhrer and Deutschland, this division was transferred from the Volkhov front, and even earlier, in September, arrived at the Volkhov front from the Razdolnaya station of the Primorsky Territory.
  • Andre___86
    Andre___86 15 February 2021 19: 41
    0
    Thank you for the article. Informative. Didn't know many facts.
  • Alexey Koshkarov
    Alexey Koshkarov 15 February 2021 20: 18
    +1
    As a young boy, I knew that Altai, Kamchatka and Primorye were Siberia. Listen to the words of the famous song - Cupid smoothly carries its waters. The Siberian wind sings them songs
    1. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 15 February 2021 21: 20
      0
      What year are you a sample and where did you live?
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 15 February 2021 21: 18
    0
    a question to the liberal broader why this man was not suddenly shot by bloody Stalin and gebnya
  • ramzay21
    ramzay21 15 February 2021 21: 51
    0
    The Red Army and the Soviet people, under the leadership of Stalin, defended Moscow and won that war.
  • geologist
    geologist 15 February 2021 23: 21
    0
    "Do you consider yourself Siberians?" my uncle from Novosibirsk asked me. I thought about it and, somewhat embarrassed, as if I had been guilty of something, answered: "No, we are the Far East." Siberia, it seemed to me, is a rather monotonous plain, covered with simple pine park or boreal forests with a small amount of downy birch and cedar, and the Far Eastern taiga entwined with vines and with dense undergrowth is very different from the Siberian, and the diet of the Far Easterners, consisting of red fish and seafood is unfamiliar to Siberians. However, the red fish in Novosibirsk is called muksun, and in Kerch sturgeon - everything is very difficult in our vast country ...
  • high
    high 15 February 2021 23: 24
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    Today forgotten is the general, favorite of Tukhachevsky Stalin, who stopped the rapid advance of the Germans to Moscow.
    The Borisov-Moscow highway was open, there was no one to defend it, the front about 400 kilometers wide was essentially open to the enemy.
    The colonel's division saddled this highway, the forces were unequal: the Luftwaffe planes reigned in the sky and practically destroyed our tanks and guns with targeted fire with almost impunity.
    We must also remember that the famous tank strategist of the Wehrmacht Heinz Guderian, who conquered the whole of Europe, confronted Kreiser.
    For 12 days, the division held the highway to Moscow.
    Zhukov reported to Stalin about the actions of the Kreizer division as the only success at that time on all fronts.
    For the defense of Moscow, Kreiser received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union and became a general.
    Subsequently, Kreizer received the military rank of General of the Army, his army liberated the Crimea, streets in Sevastopol and Simferopol are named after him,
    http://abtv.ru/cases/yakov-kreizer/
  • savage1976
    savage1976 16 February 2021 06: 40
    +1
    Is it so important who saved? Siberians, Far Easterners ?! Everyone was rescued by Kazakhs and Buryats and Ukrainians with Belarusians, Tajiks, Uzbeks. It is a victory for all of them, one for all, and they did not stand for the price.
    And we should remember and be proud.
    PS What peoples did not mention, do not be offended, you are also winners, just a message format, you cannot print everyone.
  • Torins
    Torins 16 February 2021 06: 59
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    My grandmother was drafted to Perm and, as part of the medical battalion of the rifle division formed in Perm, was transferred to Moscow in the midst of the fighting for it. According to my grandmother, the division went into battle straight from the train, all in white sheepskin coats. So not only the Far East were transferred))
  • Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 16 February 2021 08: 00
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    I do not understand these stupid statements, as if the Siberians are not Russians and a separate country that saved Moscow the capital of the country, and others did not fight there, he is learning, my grandfather died defending Moscow, everyone fought there and defended not only Moscow, but other cities as well our homeland. If Japan attacked the Far East or someone on Kazakhstan, divisions from Central Russia and from Moscow, Ukraine, Belarus, as if they had not sent something to fight and save the Far East and Kazakhstan? It turns out that the country is divided into regions and republics.
  • zav
    zav 16 February 2021 08: 08
    +2
    Technically, this is not direct copy-paste.

    Irina Florova:
    "There was a bullet dispatch of eight divisions to save Moscow."

    Grigorenko "Only rats can be found underground":
    Now there was an urgent dispatch of eight divisions to save Moscow.

    Irina Florova:
    For these secondary formations I.R. Apanasenko also deserves a separate monument in the Far East.

    Grigorenko "Only rats can be found underground":
    For these formations, Opanasenko also deserves a monument.

    This is the so-called copyright or rewriting. It’s unpleasant to read: how, together with Irina Florova, he climbed into someone else’s garden.
  • Rafal Vahitov
    Rafal Vahitov 16 February 2021 08: 50
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    And here is my grandfather from the Novosibirsk region. was mobilized and already at the end of October fought near Moscow and he is not a Siberian. He has a medal "For the Defense of Moscow".
  • pin_code
    pin_code 16 February 2021 12: 12
    +1
    They All saved the country and the capital, the Siberians, the Far East, the Urals, divisions from Central Asia and the Caucasus, and just citizens and patriots of their country
  • zenion
    zenion 16 February 2021 15: 30
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    It was already beginning to resemble American films that brought in a lot of money and began to churn out a similarity. There, not only Apanasenko fought, but the commander-in-chief called him there. And he gave the carriages and steam locomotives and supplied food. And all this became possible thanks to the work of the Soviet people.
  • silverura
    silverura 16 February 2021 21: 11
    +1
    Who saved Moscow in 1941: Siberians or Far Easterners?

    The answer is obvious! Moscow was saved by the inhabitants of the USSR, of all nationalities and peoples. What only means, to hold Kiev (to delay time for winter), where the army - the center turned to close the boiler. Yes, lost, but this is precious time for regrouping troops and help - "General Frost"
  • Drugov
    Drugov 17 February 2021 05: 02
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    So in Stavropol there is also Apanasenkovskaya street
  • isso
    isso 19 February 2021 12: 41
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    12 rifle, 5 tank and one motorized divisions. Did about 123 thousand soldiers and officers from the Far East save Moscow? I doubt it, however. Moscow was saved by the whole country. Near Moscow from the side of the enemy 1 million 750 thousand, from our side 1 million 250 thousand, i.e. Far Eastern divisions made up only one tenth of the troops defending Moscow. Source: "RUSSIA AND THE USSR IN THE WARS OF THE XX CENTURY. LOSSES OF THE ARMED FORCES. Statistical research."
  • Alexander Stupin
    Alexander Stupin 19 February 2021 17: 09
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    That on the forehead, that on the forehead. The Far East is the same Siberia, in fact, I do not find any difference. Further, many Siberians were called to serve in the Far East - so my uncle, born in 1922, from the Irkutsk region was sent in the fall of 41, near Vladivostok. In July 1942, their rifle division, along with several other divisions from the Far East, was sent to Stalingrad to hold back Paulus' offensive against the city named after Stalin.
  • Alexander Stupin
    Alexander Stupin 19 February 2021 17: 18
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    Marshal R. Ya. Malinovsky: “Respect and deep universal love for the Urals and Siberians was established because there are undoubtedly few better warriors than the Uralets and Sibiryak in the world. Therefore, the hand involuntarily writes these words with a capital letter. "

    Marshal K.K. Rokossovsky: "Among our wonderful soldiers, the Siberians were distinguished by their special stamina."

    G.K. Zhukov about Siberians: “These are real Soviet heroic soldiers, great patriots of our Motherland, her loyal sons.
    Where Siberians acted, I was always confident that they would fulfill the task entrusted to them with honor and military valor.
    And so it was throughout the Great Patriotic War. "
  • Edvagan
    Edvagan 19 February 2021 21: 12
    +1
    Moscow was saved by all fighting soldiers, starting from those who did not surrender in the Brest Fortress
  • Uralvolga
    Uralvolga 19 February 2021 22: 29
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    Very interesting. True, I already read all this 20 years ago. And the author is different. An essential part of the text is direct excerpts from Viktor Suvrov's book "Purification"
    Well, in detail about General Apanasenko is described in the book of General Grigorenko "Underground you can only meet rats"
  • Siberian
    Siberian 20 February 2021 12: 31
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    For me personally, the main thing. that the Soviet people defeated the fascist near Moscow ... and this is the most important thing, because those who accomplished this feat are no longer in the world ... But the name of a specific General Apanasenko deserves respect. But again, in the context of one of the representatives of the Soviet people who laid down their heads in the Great Patriotic War ...
  • Kapral Alphych
    Kapral Alphych 21 February 2021 08: 13
    +1
    Raichikhinsk is not far from me and I have lived my whole life in the Far East, but unfortunately, I knew very little about General Apanasenko! I thank the author for such detailed information! All the same, our Rossiyushka is rich in talents, from Kaliningrad to Anadyr!