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At what stage will confrontation with the USA and NATO stop

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The collective West is outraged. America is outraged. The European Union is outraged. But most of all are outraged and offended by those of our neighbors who for many years have been playing the role of the yard dog of the West and take on the job of notifying the owners about the appearance of a large neighbor at the fence.


They sincerely believed and believe that their present master is strong and formidable, and everyone around him is afraid of him. And the owner himself felt the same way. A big belly and a haughty look inspired respect for those around him. And the fists, swollen with fat, looked quite impressive.

The dogs considered their own fear of him to be a universal fear. And from this invented fact, it was concluded that they also frighten everyone with their barking and throwing on the fence. A certain syndrome of a glint of alien power from a series of relationships between an ox and a fly on his horn. "We (!) Plowed ...".

Everything would be fine if the owner did not decide that he can force his neighbor to live by his own rules. At first, the neighbor looked closely at these rules. He even agreed in many ways, but when the owner tried to join the neighboring yard to his possessions, the neighbor suddenly brought out a huge wolfhound. Young, strong, ready to defend and attack.

Even the former fighting pit bulls did not save the situation. They lived in a house next to the owner and over the years of carefree life turned into domestic decorative animals, no longer capable of a serious fight. They, like the yard dogs, began to run along the fence, but did not feel a special desire to meet the wolfhound in a fair fight ...

The only "fighters" who at least somehow showed their readiness for a fight were a couple of street creeps, whom the owner picked up in the trash heap because of their aggressiveness. Dead, exhausted from hunger and living on handouts of the owner, they really wanted to become needed by the lactating person more than other dogs. The owner encouraged them in every possible way, spoke kind words, stroked the head.

Why pity them? Unhappy trash dogs, living in the memory of those times when they lived in a common pack and were beautiful and strong dogs that even wolves were afraid of. Raggers who are of no use to anyone and worth nothing. And there is no sense in them today, except barking.

Continuation of this stories ahead. What it will be is not yet clear. The matter will be limited to the usual barking, or the gate will still be open, and the wolfhound will have to strangle a couple of mongrels - it is unknown. The owner thinks the dogs are terrified, the neighbor is completing the next water ... no, the gas pipeline.

Guard, Russians suspect something


Analyzing the situation around and inside Russia, we can confidently conclude that the operation to destroy us has begun. Moreover, it is already impossible to stop it. Even with the mutual desire of opponents. A clash is inevitable. One can only hope that this will be a diplomatic skirmish, and not a military confrontation.

See what's going on internally. The latest speeches of young people are just intelligence about the state of Russian society. The mechanism used is the same as for other operations of the same type. The youth had to start unrest, the citizens offended by the state had to support the protests.

Have you noticed that there were no clearly defined tasks, clear slogans and requirements? The young people came out against, but not for. The German patient was just one of the slogans. Moreover, for the most part, the protesters did not even really know who he was. This was correctly noticed by the pro-government media and was widely used in their reports from the scene.

We see exactly the same picture in social networks and electronic media. If you look closely at the comments to articles on social and political topics, an interesting picture emerges. Quite a lot of critics have appeared from somewhere. Not critics, but critics. Moreover, they have some knowledge of information warfare.

Remember the bearded anecdote about a student who learned only the chapter about the cockroach from the entire course of biology and led all the questions on the exam to this particular insect? "A whale does not at all look like a cockroach, but a cockroach is ..." or "a fish lives in a completely different environment than a cockroach, and a cockroach is ...". Just? Really simple ...

But instead of a cockroach, they use pension reform, coronavirus, low salaries, lack of education, wealth of the rich and poverty of the poor ... Even the snow that has fallen will do. Moreover, when someone suddenly talks about the stupidity of such claims, a whole flock of supporters of the previous statement attacks him. The flock, which is only intended for this. It is enough to look at the list of minus players, and everything becomes clear.

Of course, not everyone who criticizes the authorities or leads the discussion towards "cockroaches" are enemies. Most are not even aware that they are toys in the hands of professionals. I call these people gamers. People for whom not the result is important, but the process itself. The main thing is to be against it. Against everything. Create controversy and watch people "break spears" to prove their point.

They are not as harmless as they seem. These are the very "came to hang out in the crowd", thanks to which really knowledgeable and understanding people stop communicating. Why? Think about beads and pigs. And I don’t want to read insults to myself. And this is also the task of the "information soldiers". A competent enemy is dangerous, but an amateur, guided by feelings, not knowledge, is an excellent material for processing.

But, to the credit of our people, the number of those who give in to such massive processing is rather small. This is partly to blame for the laws of neighbors on the Russian language. The “Ivanovs”, “Petrovs” and “Sidorovs” often construct phrases so stupidly that even a schoolboy understands their “Russian origin”. And the facts that such truth-lovers cite as evidence of their innocence cause laughter among the majority.

You should be afraid


Fear is a great stimulant to start a negotiation process. This means that in order to preserve the situation in their favor, it is necessary to intimidate the other side. Then you can dictate your terms for a truce. You can win without war.

If we recall the past months, it becomes clear that NATO and the United States have been trying to intimidate us almost all winter. Remember the press conference of the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, First Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Valery Gerasimov, for foreign military attachés on December 24 last year?

"The anti-Russian focus of NATO training activities and the alliance's provocative activities along the Russian borders have intensified."

"... non-aligned countries are increasingly involved in these activities."

“There is a significant increase in the military budgets of NATO countries and a further build-up of their military potential. This has a significant impact on the balance of power, giving one of the parties an advantage in the use of strategic weapons. "

"The role of non-nuclear weapons with a long range, high accuracy and the power of combat equipment is growing."

I specifically cited the main theses of the report of the Chief of the General Staff in sufficient detail. It is in this form that they look most obvious. NATO bluntly declares its superiority, which means that we must turn our tail between our legs and remain silent while the uncles from Brussels decide the fate of the world.

Then General Gerasimov reassured the gentlemen from NATO with numbers:

“The Defense Department has increased the airspace reconnaissance system near the borders of Russia and increased fire capabilities. This will make it possible to respond more quickly to violations in the airspace. "

"The troops of the military districts, Northern fleet (SF) and the Airborne Forces delivered about 1,7 thousand units of armored, missile-artillery and other weapons, the construction of ships in the far and near sea zones is underway, the system of basing the Navy is being improved. "

Judging by the further actions of the alliance, the story of the Chief of the General Staff worked. The beginning of the year, although it was not entirely peaceful, was not distinguished by the activation of the bloc's actions. Normal routine work. But in the south-west of our borders it has become sharply warmer. It became clear that we would "shove" there.

Activation of pro-Western forces in Moldova. The actual end of the ceasefire in the Donbass. American destroyers URO in the Black Sea. Transfer of the "rubber fleet" to the Ukrainian Navy. Enough to raise awareness of this region?

The Americans understand that without control over the Black Sea, all NATO attempts to somehow pull the Russian Black Sea Fleet out of the brackets in the Ukrainian conflict are pointless. Hence, it is necessary to find the enemy. Or create an enemy, which is more accurate. And create this enemy from the Russians.

We have been watching for a long time how American ships enter the Black Sea under various pretexts. How attacks on the Crimean coast are periodically practiced. how aviation an alliance led by the United States is working out our southern borders. Fortunately, the Americans in this region have ready-made dogs for everything in the face of Ukraine and Georgia.

On February 10, a grouping of American ships with the involvement of aviation worked out tasks in the Black Sea together with the Turkish Navy. Also, the United States forces conducted exercises with the Romanian, Ukrainian and Georgian fleets. This was reported by the press service of the US 6th Fleet.

On the one hand, there is an ordinary message about the exercises. On the other hand? On the other hand, the bloc's actions directly threaten the security of Crimea. Forcing us to strengthen the grouping of troops. Moreover, these actions upset the balance of power in the whole region. Russia and Turkey coped well with maintaining order, but now "friends" have appeared.

“We urge the US military to stop the reckless rattling weapons and go about your business in the territorial waters of the United States. No foreign intervention is required to ensure peace and security in the Black Sea. "

This is a quote from a statement by the Russian Embassy in the United States. This statement was made precisely following the results of the American-Turkish exercises with the participation of URO destroyers such as Arleigh Burke USS Porter and USS Donald Cook.

The danger of such actions is obvious. You don't have to be too sophisticated in military affairs to understand that in response to the teachings of the Americans, the Russians are also conducting exercises. Only with slightly different tasks. Namely, the tasks of destroying the enemy fleet that entered the Black Sea. Moreover, exercises are often conducted in parallel. And this is a direct danger of a conflict. Alas, even the most advanced weaponry can fail in some way.

Why the Americans need the Black Sea, Rear Admiral Michael Baze explained at a conference in Hamburg in early February:

"The Black and Mediterranean Seas are critical to the 6th Fleet, especially in the context of malevolent Russian influence, energy competition and frozen conflicts."

At the same time, the Americans are well aware, more precisely, given the equipment of the destroyers with the most modern reconnaissance equipment, they know that any ship in the Black Sea is under the constant control of Russia and can be neutralized by force rather quickly. But they continue to scare ...

Short conclusions


At the beginning of the article, I already wrote that the operation had begun. A variety of services are involved: from information and intelligence services to space and electronic. Therefore, it will not be possible to stop all this quickly. This means that another important question arises. At what stage of the confrontation will we stop?

Then the actions of Ukraine become quite understandable, which is going on another strengthening of the confrontation in the Donbass in the hope that Russia will not fulfill its threat of losing its statehood. The stir in Moldova about the withdrawal of Russian peacekeepers is becoming clear. The talks in Tbilisi about the fate of South Ossetia are becoming clear. Even KSHU in Poland is understandable.

The confrontation continues. The forces on both sides are enormous. They are trying to divide Russian society according to any principle. Military threats are growing. It is not at all surprising that a huge number of those who talk about Russia's inability to resist the West have appeared, a huge number of those who, willingly or unwittingly, betray the state and the people, under the guise of caring for this very people.

I remembered a song about Russians. There is one line that our enemies cannot understand. And we ourselves too.

“Russians, Russians - a restless fate.
But why, in order to be stronger,
We need trouble. "
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  1. Dimy4
    Dimy4 15 February 2021 05: 25
    +6
    Analyzing the situation around and inside Russia, we can confidently conclude that the operation to destroy us has begun.

    And it never stopped. It just flowed from passive to active.
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 15 February 2021 06: 13
      +1
      Confrontation with the West will stop in several cases:

      1) The West will rot and fall apart. A situation similar to the collapse of the Western Roman Empire.

      2) the collective West will get good money. For example, in Syria. Or - in Ukraine. We are talking about armed clashes with the final victory of our weapons.

      3) in the West, politicians will have common sense. There is a chance)
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 15 February 2021 06: 25
        +6
        Confrontation with the West will stop in several cases:
        4) Another Gorby will come and everything will end much more sadly
        1. 210ox
          210ox 15 February 2021 07: 00
          +5
          This is what the stake is made on. I don't think that all the scumbags are there and understand that the answer will arrive. But to gnaw with the help of pocket politicians, yes. An interesting year awaits us.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 15 February 2021 15: 46
            +2
            the operation has begun.
            become the actions of Ukraine, which goes to the next strengthening of the confrontation in the Donbass
            The stir in Moldova about the withdrawal of Russian peacekeepers is becoming clear.
            The talks in Tbilisi about the fate of South Ossetia are becoming clear. Even KSHU in Poland is understandable.

            As for Moldova, after the elections, the President of Moldova Maia Sandu, by her decree, approved the new composition of the Supreme Security Council of Moldova. It includes 11 new members, seven among them are representatives of foreign-funded NGOs, including Soros structures. It means that foreign citizens will be admitted to the state secrets of the country and will be able to influence the spheres of its security.
            Sandu's opponents accuse her of undermining the national security of Moldova. But putting the country under external control is the main goal of any color revolution. Namely.

            The recent color revolution in Moldova was marked by the fight against the oligarchy. Both the right and the left have united against the oligarch Vlad Plahotniuc, who became the de facto shadow ruler of the country, taking control of the parliament, government, courts and security forces.
            The current president was most indignant at this. Maia Sandu, who talked a lot about the "captured Plahotniuc state", which supposedly needs to be returned to the people. Plahotniuc was expelled. Sandu became president, but the Moldovan state was not returned to the people. On the contrary, now Sandu has transferred the Moldovan state to a foreign oligarch - international financial speculator George Soros. To his long-term patron.

            As a result, Washington's occupation of Moldova, Georgia, and Ukraine is taking place at the level of "soft power" and practically invisible to the population. After the color revolution mandatory in the country there are: a) a museum of the Soviet occupation and b) closed floors in the ministries of state security and defense, where American "advisers" sit; c) American biological laboratory.

            See details - https://www.mk.ru/politics/2021/01/27/k-upravleniyu-moldaviey-dopustili-struktury-sorosa.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 15 February 2021 08: 04
          +1
          Quote: NDR-791
          Another Gorby will come and everything will end much sadder
          This is currently the most unlikely scenario, nmv. This is how you have to be a fool in the place of the president, who has some, but real power, to allow the implementation of a scenario, after which he will envy the fate of Miloshovich and Gaddafi. No one will provide him with a comfortable old age in Germany, although he speaks German, unlike Gorbachev, who has a difficult relationship with the Russian language. If only we have nothing to answer to the West. But he seems to be trying to prevent this.
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 15 February 2021 08: 35
            +6
            This is how you have to be a fool in the president's place
            Everything is so, everything is so ... What kind of fool do you have to be able to slip Medvedev into the country in due time ??? I should have known my stupid friend, eh? And what he managed to heap up in just 4 years need to remind?
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 15 February 2021 08: 56
              -2
              Quote: NDR-791
              somehow manage to slip the country of Medvedev
              And what Medvedev, the country passed the road? He even refused to let anyone into South Ossetia. This means that Medvedev is not Gorbachev, or that Putin had the opportunity to keep Medvedev from such actions as locum tenens (although one does not exclude the other).
              1. NDR-791
                NDR-791 15 February 2021 09: 04
                +13
                Putin had the ability to deter Medvedev from such actions
                And did he keep much? From joining the WTO, for example? Or from the signing of agreements due to which the GDP itself seems to be still blushing - "as long as I am the president, the retirement age will not be raised." Medvedev moved the border beyond the 200-mile zone, giving up a section of the shelf to Norway. And you say not Gorbachev ... the ability to hold ... nu-nu
                1. sniperino
                  sniperino 15 February 2021 10: 15
                  -4
                  Quote: NDR-791
                  "while I am the president, there will be no increase in the retirement age"
                  I don’t understand how this is connected with Medvedev, but even with this, he is up to Gorbachev, who merged the USSR, and Yeltsin, who leased the Russian Federation to the oligarchs for 10 years, like cancer - to the glorious city of Beijing.
                2. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 15 February 2021 12: 04
                  +2
                  because of which the GDP itself seem still blushes

                  Although I am an atheist .. but in this case it is not a sin to cross ..))
      2. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 15 February 2021 06: 39
        +11
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        the collective West will get well "for nuts." For example, in Syria. Or - in Ukraine. We are talking about armed clashes with the final victory of our weapons.

        You are naive.
        I'm afraid of offending, but it's not even funny.
        With the power of our weapons, we have already won this "west" many times, and not somewhere out there in darkness, which they will not immediately find on the map, but in Paris, in Berlin, not to mention other Warsaw. So what?....
        Or do you propose to burn America and Europe to the last man, so surely?
        1. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 15 February 2021 06: 54
          +11
          To be honest, the West will calm down only when it is destroyed.

          And there is no contradiction in my thesis - when Russia defeated the West by force of arms, it calmed down.
          1. Jacket in stock
            Jacket in stock 15 February 2021 07: 13
            +7
            Quote: Ilya-spb
            there is no contradiction in my thesis - when Russia defeated the West by force of arms, it calmed down.

            Yeahhhh ???
            For a long time?
            The Cold War began a year after the capture of Berlin, and the clashes between the Red Army and the Americans even before it was taken.
            And about the victory in Ukraine is generally nonsense. Are you proposing to get involved in a full-scale war there? And you call this a victory over the West ?!
            Yes, this is their sweetest dream.
            So that the Russians would kill the Russians, and they would make money on it.
            1. mark1
              mark1 15 February 2021 07: 59
              0
              Quote: Jacket in stock
              And about the victory in Ukraine is generally nonsense.

              Ukraine is not a country but a battlefield, or we leave this field for the West (and we have a guaranteed kirdyk, maybe a little delayed) or for ourselves
              Quote: Jacket in stock
              And you call this a victory over the West ?!

              This will not be the final but a strategic victory or loss.
              Well, what do you suggest? Sound. Or are you just lamenting?
              1. Jacket in stock
                Jacket in stock 15 February 2021 08: 10
                +9
                Quote: mark1
                Well, what do you suggest? Sound.

                Well, certainly not tanks in Odessa.
                Although in 2014 they were very much expected there.
                The best thing to do is to do it like this:
                "We live in the best country, and everyone else envies us" (c) ...
                And then the Ukrainians, Moldovans, Georgians, ... the Spaniards, the French, the Germans themselves will line up to be friends with us and will not give a damn about the United States with their sanctions, because it is more profitable to be friends with us.
                1. mark1
                  mark1 15 February 2021 08: 18
                  +4
                  Fantasies in the apple style of course can attract some (me never), but the realities of life break them completely. And do not confuse the goal and the path to the goal. What you said may be the goal, but the path to the goal must be passed and on this path to survive.
                2. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 15 February 2021 08: 30
                  -3
                  Quote: Jacket in stock
                  what is more profitable to be friends with us

                  what is more profitable? fuck with us? so human greed is endless ...
                  Russia was already a colony of its republics. A variant of the visual use of nuclear weapons, for punishment, would be an option. IMHO of course
                  1. Jacket in stock
                    Jacket in stock 15 February 2021 09: 21
                    +3
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    what is more profitable? fuck with us?

                    And what do they have with the Americans?
                    It is beneficial, including what is written in the first paragraphs of this opus - to be involved in a world power that has no competitors.

                    In the meantime, on the contrary, ours dream of falling to their feet, and all the fuss is just about a place in the queue. We are so big, from mozha to mozha, and they are "beloved wife". It's a shame.
                    1. aybolyt678
                      aybolyt678 16 February 2021 21: 56
                      +1
                      Quote: Jacket in stock
                      And what do they have with the Americans?

                      The fact of the matter is that ideologically, our elite is no different from the Americans. Everything is extremely pragmatic. But the Americans have a tradition: this is the principle of the core, when they put or isolate the main figure, and make it their own, plus informational support. We are weak in this. We help the country, not the figure, so we have more costs and less effect.
                  2. bayard
                    bayard 16 February 2021 21: 35
                    +2
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    A variant of the visual use of nuclear weapons, for punishment, would be an option. IMHO of course

                    Lightning-fast (fleeting) liberation of natural Russian lands and people on the territory of Novorossiya, Little Russia and Slobozhanshchina would be the best demonstration of strength, will and responsibility.
                    No "victory" in Syria / Libya will bring this, as long as everyone sees how on natural Russian lands they make non-humans out of Russian people, deploy the US and NATO military infrastructure, prohibit the Russian language and go to jail for the mere desire to remain Russian. It is THIS - the betrayal of their history, their blood and their land, that made Russia what I perceive it today in most countries of the world.
                    People perceive.
                    And the authorities.
                    For, surprisingly, there - abroad, both Ukrainians and Belarusians are still considered Russian ... only Ukrainians - are chuckle. But nevertheless - Russians.
                    And if Russia is not able to put things in order on its (!!!) lands, is not able to help OWN - the Russian people, if it allows the United States and England to create SUCH on its own land ... then it is a dying country with the weak-willed rule of compradors and comfortists. .. Such a country is not needed either as an ally, much less as a leader of some union, bloc ... and as a partner it is unreliable.
                    Have you noticed just such a drift in relations and perceptions of Russia over these recent years?
                    Turkey is already in the Caucasus!
                    Deploys its bases in Azerbaijan and Georgia!
                    And he makes plans right up to the Volga region, the Urals and Siberia ...
                    Where do you think such agility and boundless (!) Confidence in their own impunity come from?
                    Only!
                    From the behavior of the authorities of the Russian Federation.
                    Toothless and weak-willed.

                    Therefore, if the matter is about war (and the matter is about war), then willy-nilly the Ukrainian "Gordian knot" will have to be cut!
                    And no later than this spring and summer.
                    Otherwise we'll be late.
                    And the Nazis will again be near Moscow.

                    The Russian authorities need to VERY seriously study the experience of the Russo-Japanese War.
                    And its consequences.
                    And the commandment of the Russian officer - "Remember the War."
                    1. aybolyt678
                      aybolyt678 16 February 2021 22: 01
                      0
                      Quote: bayard
                      Lightning-fast (fleeting) liberation of natural Russian lands and people on the territory of Novorossiya, Little Russia and Slobozhanshchina would be the best demonstration of strength, will and responsibility.

                      the moneybags that run there do not want to have Moscow competitors in their area of ​​interest. This is not only Donbass, it is also Belarus. We made money the main value, so we look rather pale against the background of the Yankees
                      1. bayard
                        bayard 16 February 2021 22: 17
                        +1
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        We made money the main value, so we look rather pale against the background of the Yankees

                        We made their money the main value.
                        And we don't even have our own emission center.
                        And we utilize most of the profits from the sale of oil in some funds, from which you cannot take a cent for our own development.
                        If this - the main value were our, domestic money, then even under capitalism, our situation would be no worse than in China, including growth rates.
                        But now we are talking not just about recognizing the rights of these "our" moneybags to power in Russia, but about banal physical survival.
                        Including these bags.
                        And if they still want to live, then they still have to act.
                        And if not ... it will be really bad.
        2. dorz
          dorz 15 February 2021 07: 40
          +6
          Without a sovereign information space and the transition to a national economy, all our body movements are more like a delay in time and an inevitable end.
        3. sniperino
          sniperino 15 February 2021 08: 19
          -2
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          Or do you propose to burn America and Europe to the last man, so surely?
          It will be their choice. They are free people. If they do not want to leave us a choice, then they will have to burn until they come to their senses. The main thing is that they have this choice, then, maybe, they won't have to burn anyone.
      3. Profiler
        Profiler 15 February 2021 06: 43
        +1
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        1) The West will rot and fall apart. A situation similar to the collapse of the Western Roman Empire.


        Perhaps, and even similar, when looking at the analogy of the fall of morals and morality in ancient Rome and the "collective West".
        But this was not the only reason for the collapse of the empire. Who will play the role of Goths, Huns, and other barbarians who finished off Rome?
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        2) the collective West will get good money. For example, in Syria. Or - in Ukraine. We are talking about armed clashes with the final victory of our weapons.


        Syria? Are you proposing a direct clash between the US and us? World III?

        Ukraine what ... Directly, the United States and its satellites do not go there, so a "slap in the face", tangible enough to be realized and understood, will not work for them there.
        1. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 15 February 2021 06: 52
          +1
          Well, there are already barbarians: blacks, Mexicans.
          1. Profiler
            Profiler 15 February 2021 06: 54
            +4
            Quote: Ilya-spb
            Well, there are already barbarians: blacks, Mexicans.

            Not that critical mass, and not in a position to deliver tangible blows that could shake the United States and other Western countries.
            1. nnm
              nnm 15 February 2021 06: 59
              +1
              The mass, just the same, is critical - in the next year or two, more children of Latinos and Negroes will be born in the United States per year than children of Anglo-Saxons. And BLM is a great test of strength. And such events are dangerous not by the initial result, but by the fact that many are aware that any hyenas can kick a dying (often sooooo long) lion.
          2. aars
            aars 15 February 2021 07: 06
            +9
            Mexicans are not barbarians at all, they are exactly the same representatives of the Western ethnos.
            Nothing will change, unless the blacks are crushed, they do not like blacks.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 15 February 2021 08: 25
              +1
              Quote: aars
              they do not like black.

              And who loves them?
              And do not call them "black", they Negros
              1. aars
                aars 15 February 2021 08: 28
                +1
                I agree, I get on said.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 15 February 2021 08: 35
                  +1
                  Quote: aars
                  I get on said.

                  Let's just say we made a reservation smile
        2. Civil
          Civil 15 February 2021 06: 53
          +29
          See what's going on internally. The latest speeches of young people are just intelligence about the state of Russian society. The mechanism used is the same as for other operations of the same type. The youth had to start unrest, the citizens offended by the state had to support the protests.

          1. There was no need to cut off social lifts for young people.
          2. There was no need to push the population to the bottom with prices and taxes.
          3. What does NATO and the United States have to do with the rise in prices for housing and communal services, food, cronyism and prices in universities? How was the EU able to reduce the incomes of Russian families and drop the ruble?
          4. Article - very cheap propaganda. And he does not consider the whole problem.
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 15 February 2021 08: 40
            +2
            Article - working off the topic. If tomorrow they give the go-ahead for the accusation of aliens, then we will read about the "eternal" confrontation between Alpha Centauri and the Russians.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 15 February 2021 10: 00
              -13%
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              Article - working out the topic

              And who "laid down" the theme?
              If tomorrow they give the go-ahead for accusing aliens,

              Who will give the go-ahead?
              Name it specifically. Otherwise, the person was accused of writing ordered articles, and this is slander and an article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 15 February 2021 10: 28
                +7
                Well, sue me.
                For my opinion. And it is based on that set of templates and standard phrases that are now pouring out of each iron.
                At the same time, order an expert opinion if the template or non-standard expressions were used in the text, what is their political background.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 15 February 2021 10: 42
                  -11%
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  Well, sue me.

                  What else, do you know Navalny in court what he was up to?
                  ... And it is based on that set of templates and standard phrases that are now pouring out of each iron.

                  And about "everything is gone, Putin zdal everything, pension reform, all the beggars", the site is not flooded?
                  And everything is in one order, like a carbon copy
                  what is their political background.

                  Not tired of looking everywhere for "politics" and "enemies of the people"?
                  It looks like the ideology is firmly driven into the cerebellum
            2. Igor Kobernik
              Igor Kobernik 15 February 2021 14: 49
              +1
              Young man, yes you (deliberately with a capital), you don't even know the history of Russia .... ("If tomorrow they give the go-ahead for accusing aliens, we will read about the" eternal "confrontation between Alpha Centauri and the Russians."). But you are trying to "insert" your "penny" ... Europe's constant claims to us are the eternal envy of hereditary colonizers, no more .... Read about the composition of Napoleon's army ... Read about the composition of the invasion army of Nazi Germany ... Yes, the composition of the national , practically, coincides in a ratio of 1: 1 ... And what, after OUR VICTORY (and more than one) on these rags, do you want them to love us ???
          2. sniperino
            sniperino 15 February 2021 08: 41
            -14%
            Quote: Civil
            The article is a very cheap agitation.
            Dear agitator! Maybe the information was not brought to you, but
            1) social elevators (except for the criminal one) cut off all the 90s, and today they are gradually being restored;
            2) and the population today began to live noticeably richer, although both the owner of “priors” or an outdated BMW model, and the one deprived of a gaming computer, can feel “at the bottom”;
            3) it is somehow even indecent for a person who makes a comment to the author about the absence of a systematic approach not to understand the connection between the Fed's policy and ruble prices in the Russian Federation.
          3. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 15 February 2021 09: 41
            -1
            Quote: Civil
            1. There was no need to cut off social lifts for young people.

            Our state belongs to very rich people. They have from the depths, they have from the people, these people do not need elevators. They don't need competitors.
            Quote: Civil
            2. There was no need to push the population to the bottom with prices and taxes.

            Prices are the result of banking policy, and the state will not do anything with the existing mechanisms. Rather the opposite.
            Quote: Civil
            How was the EU able to reduce the incomes of Russian families and drop the ruble?

            According to the law, the amount of money in circulation must correspond to the amount of gold and foreign exchange reserves in the Central Bank. We sell oil and gas for dollars, and they have a quantitative easing policy ... How can we avoid inflation ???
        3. Cowbra
          Cowbra 15 February 2021 06: 59
          -4
          Quote: Profiler
          Who will play the role of Goths, Huns, and other barbarians who finished off Rome?

          Black people. By full analogy with Rome. Remember that Rome at the end fed its neighbors, they graciously took handouts and like "defended". That is, you didn't attack yourself? And one day they decided - what for is part of us, if we can take everything?
          Now take a close look at the United States, where the third generation of Negroes are sitting on welfare, hereditarily do not work and live on handouts from the "city on the hill"? Isn't it time to take everything and not unemployment benefits? And here's BLM
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 15 February 2021 08: 27
            -11%
            Quote: Cowbra
            - and what for us a part, if we can take everything?
            Now take a close look at the United States, where the third generation of Negroes are sitting on welfare, hereditarily do not work and live on handouts from the "city on the hill"? H

            Judging by the cons, local blacks disagree with you laughing
            1. Cowbra
              Cowbra 15 February 2021 08: 29
              -9
              It is more correct to call them Afro-Ucrops and Afroliberasts.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 15 February 2021 08: 38
                -9
                Quote: Cowbra
                It is more correct to call them Afro-Ucrops and Afroliberasts.

                Ravens.
                They will find a victim who is against it, and they will fly in a flock to peck.
                Like the ravens, silently
                Only when they gather in a flock in search of a victim, they croak at the top of their lungs
          2. sniperino
            sniperino 15 February 2021 09: 06
            -3
            Quote: Cowbra
            Isn't it time to take everything and not unemployment benefits?
            Definitely, they were shown how easy it is to get white people to kiss their shoes.
            But do not we wave to William, you see, our Shakespeare?
            Interestingly, they have not yet banned Shakespeare, otherwise he did not respect the Moors at all.
      4. Dimy4
        Dimy4 15 February 2021 07: 07
        +2
        3) in the West, politicians will have common sense. There is a chance)

        Alas. it usually appears after a good spanking.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 15 February 2021 08: 28
          -2
          Quote: Dimy4
          usually after a good spanking

          And after resignation
          1. Dimy4
            Dimy4 15 February 2021 09: 20
            0
            And after resignation

            And after resignation, they simply return their brains, handed over for a while to the storage room.
      5. Stas157
        Stas157 15 February 2021 08: 37
        +25
        ... instead of a cockroach used pension reform, coronavirus, low salaries, lack of education, wealth of the rich and poverty of the poor ... Even fallen snow will do. Moreover, when someone suddenly talks about the stupidity of such claims, a whole flock of people attacks him.

        Explain to people for the hundredth time that Putin has nothing to do with it !! He has nothing to do with everything bad that so much happens in Russia !! Only good (which is almost nonexistent)! Why can't anyone understand this?

        Poor supernumerary propagandists.
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 15 February 2021 09: 13
          -8
          Quote: Stas157
          They explain to people for the hundredth time that Putin has nothing to do with it!
          Who is talking about what, and lousy about the bath ((C) folk saying, for which you should not send to the ban).
        2. Igor Kobernik
          Igor Kobernik 15 February 2021 15: 04
          -4
          I am surprised how many id ... s gathered on this site ... Yes, the unpopular pension reform is the imperative of the times and demographic failures in our country. 1. During the Second World War ... 2. During the "blessed 90s" .... On the first - four years of a terrible war, which knocked out the active part of the population .... On the second - thank "the popularly elected and deceased Yeltsin." .. By the way, I knew about the inevitability of this reform back in the late 80s ... And now take a calculator (if you cannot multiply 2 by 3 in your mind, as a "humanist") and estimate the cyclical nature of mass losses of working and active in our country....
        3. veritas
          veritas 15 February 2021 22: 20
          +4
          Quote: Stas157
          Why can't anyone understand this?

          Everyone understands everything.
          Poor supernumerary propagandists.

          And only they can't explain anything.
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 15 February 2021 07: 37
      -5
      Quote: Dimy4
      the operation to destroy us has begun

      And it never stopped. It just flowed from passive to active.
      More precisely, this is not an operation, but a hybrid war. It changed the restrictions on persons, on objects and on the means and methods of conducting hybrid military operations. In particular, the level of secrecy of operations (actually military, information, economic, diplomatic, etc.) in this war changed.
    3. Finches
      Finches 15 February 2021 08: 05
      -18%
      Here on the VO of these "gamers" a dime a dozen - one fighter is more beautiful than the other and all so intelligent - only mind is not enough to understand that they are the 5th column, acting in the interests of our enemies!
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 15 February 2021 08: 30
        -11%
        Quote: Finches
        Here on the VO of these "gamers" a dime a dozen - one fighter is more beautiful than the other and everyone is so intelligent -

      2. sniperino
        sniperino 15 February 2021 09: 25
        -9
        Quote: Finches
        only the mind is not enough to understand that they are the 5th column, acting in the interests of our enemies!
        Specially trained people will be engaged in testing their IQ and assessing the possibility of realizing their participation in the coup attempt.
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 15 February 2021 09: 43
        +8
        5 column
        you are the 5th column. you rejoice, I quote Kassad
        Singer YurKiss, aka 23-year-old Yuri Kiselev, explained why President Vladimir Putin awarded him a medal of the Order of Merit to the Fatherland, II degree. According to him, these are all concerts in Donbass, Crimea, Syria and restored churches Yuri Kiselev is the son of businessman and producer Vladimir Kiselev
        Or on yours this yurkis bulk awarded.
        It is you and others like you who are happy about the optimization of Russia. We optimized medicine, and suddenly the op-pa kovid showed up, and the hospitals were closed, the doctors were fired.
        A very recent example. For two days a blizzard swept in Moscow. Well this weather is understandable. But why, two more days later, there are only paths in Moscow, the capital, but it seems to be the 21st century. Where is the technique? And who are the enemies of Russia?
        1. Finches
          Finches 15 February 2021 09: 55
          -13%
          Everything is gone, the plaster is being removed, the client is leaving ... Well, they gave him a medal, someone hurried up, or do you think Putin can read the surname - this is not a Hero of Russia! So, at all times, awards were bought and sold here, unfortunately! In St. Petersburg, the norm - the roads are cleaned, it has been worse! I will not say for Moscow, but Sobyanin is a strong business executive. I flew to Kemerovo in January and there all the norms with utilities and public transport went as it should, although the frost reached minus 47 ... I'll tell you about medicine by my example - I was pleasantly surprised that they brought home kits of free medicines to prevent the corona ... There were and will be problems, but, as Zheglov said "They steal in England no less than ours. Yes, yes, and the rule of law in the country is determined not by the presence of thieves, but by the ability of the authorities to neutralize them." And with these more or less - out and the traitor of the Motherland Navalny was finally closed! laughing
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 15 February 2021 10: 04
            +10
            Well they gave him a medal,
            This is your attitude towards state awards. Contemptuous!
            I will not say for Moscow
            Do not speak. The paths are like in the village. And what does Kemerovo or Sobyanin have to do with it and drives his hands there.?
            out and the traitor of the Motherland Navalny was finally closed!
            Are you a humorist or do you prefer to consider Navalny a great traitor than some of the actors?
            Problems have been and will be
            So maybe it was not necessary to destroy the Union?
            1. Finches
              Finches 15 February 2021 10: 08
              -14%
              The union did not have to be destroyed - this is a great tragedy! But who did it? All the same - by the hands of all-propals and whiners, into whose crowd the agents of influence of the Western special services were skillfully introduced! Problems need to be solved, but not by the method of collapse of the State!
      4. Cowbra
        Cowbra 15 February 2021 09: 47
        -7
        Ylita ... How did Divov say about them?
        For a very long time, Russia could not agree with the obvious: if the intelligentsia only do that they borrow other people's meanings and trends instead of producing their own, and everyone looks to the West, fearing that they might seem like bastards, this is not the brain of the nation, but dandruff. And you know who they boast of dandruff.
      5. astepanov
        astepanov 15 February 2021 13: 10
        +5
        Quote: Finches
        they are the 5th column, acting in the interests of our enemies!

        Yes, yes, the old woman who went to the rally because her pension would only be enough to keep from starving to death, but the communal apartment was cleaning up this pension - is she the fifth column? Yes, at these rallies there are both fooled by the bulk, and stupid children - but there is darkness and those who in the old songs were called "the curse of the branded, hungry and slaves." Do you think that if they go in a separate column, then they will not be swept and shoved into paddy wagons in the same way as they will be piled?
    4. astepanov
      astepanov 15 February 2021 13: 03
      +9
      Where, in fact, is the analysis? There are duty incantations, there are inferior allegories and dubious analogies - and this is enough to consider emotional moaning as analysis? Yes, the war of the West against Russia has been going on for a long time - and this is all that the author wanted to say, open our eyes to us blindfolded? And then we did not know without him. Yes, all these piles are just an excuse to verbalize what is happening. But someone created a reason. The USA was calm and quiet, but as soon as social and economic problems worsened, the USA began to shake. And they, just like us, blame the bad guys from overseas for everything - i.e. us, shifting from a sore head to a healthy one. Rather, on ours, because ours is also far from smooth. The author immediately begins with a curtsy that, they say, neither the pension reform, nor the impoverishment of the lower classes, nor our other hemorrhoids, which are innumerable, have nothing to do with it. How to do it! In full accordance with the classics, the lower classes do not want to, because the limit of trust and patience is coming to an end, and the upper classes either cannot do anything, or they are in a hurry to finish the pies, until the real flare up. The payment of seven thousand for a communal apartment with a pension of 15 thousand is more embittered than all the squeals of bulk and beckons to join the protests - for the company. And inevitably it makes you wonder: how is it that almost half a century of experience and work that is not the most healthy for health led to poverty against the background of an increasingly fatty top? How is it that you eat up the last hell, and the uncle from Edr accumulates billions unrighteously - and does not even lose his place in the Legislative Assembly? So maybe the analysis should be to understand: who creates the reasons for the collapse of the country from within? Is the fifth column at the bottom? And how many people will test strength?
      1. Finches
        Finches 15 February 2021 13: 15
        -11%
        Yaroslavna's noble cry! laughing After the Maidan, Ukrainian pensioners drink kava from morning till night near the Vienna Opera - which is not an example! So your slogans are the same - all the offended and oppressed - to the barricades today, and tomorrow let's go to the Vienna Opera to drink cava! laughing
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 15 February 2021 15: 05
          +2
          1. The word "crying" is written without a soft sign.
          2. Read what I wrote in my post and try to understand what exactly is written: you think that you can and should put up with anything from the authorities, so long as there is no Maidan, and I am writing that Maidans are being arranged " from below ", and conditions for them are created" from above ".
          3. There is no Vienna opera in Moscow. Does it exist where you live? Are you writing from Vienna? I envy. I would listen.
          1. Finches
            Finches 15 February 2021 15: 13
            -3
            Thanks for the science! I mean that the road to hell is paved with good intentions! Moreover, in the actions of the so-called non-systemic opposition there are no good intentions for everyone, but only for themselves and their Western curators, but they utter the correct slogans and in what, in what, but the opponents of our country have become adept at manipulating mass consciousness and color revolutions! T
            1. astepanov
              astepanov 15 February 2021 16: 20
              +1
              Quote: Finches
              I mean that the road to hell is paved with good intentions!

              You can't argue with that. And I agree with you that any protest will not lead to anything good. But the question is who brings the country to a booze: foreign uncles, provocateurs and shkolota in the squares, or the government with legislators (either by reason, or malicious). Without identifying the cause of the disease, it cannot be cured. Or, worse than that, fighting the symptoms, not the cause, you can even kill yourself - to the delight of the adversary.
  2. Far B
    Far B 15 February 2021 05: 26
    +20
    Young people went against, but not for
    Precisely what is against. That is, the authorities themselves did everything to turn people against themselves, their beloved. No State Department can cope with this task. So what complaints can there be against people who are against?
    Only instead of a cockroach, they use pension reform, coronavirus, low salaries, lack of education, wealth of the rich and poverty of the poor ...
    Op-punk ... But what about the "one and only question about the cockroach", the author? The listed - not a fig not "one and only", this is already a "trend, however" pulls. And the list goes on and on.
    And when someone suddenly talks about the stupidity of such claims
    So what's the nonsense of the claims? Shouldn't the authorities be charged for the pension reform? For "ingenious" antiquated measures that put the already frail economy on the fifth point - not to them, dear ones? For the total stratification of society into the poor and the rich - who, according to the author, should be presented - well, so that this is not "stupidity"? Ah, I got it! The stupidity is that the people generally dare to make claims!
    In short, another protective material from Staver. Nothing unusual.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 15 February 2021 06: 01
      +5
      And I agree in key places in the article with Staver, the US war with our country is already in full swing. All methods of struggle are used against us, except, of course, full-fledged military operations. In addition, the enemy uses all the blunders and stupidity of our government to increase the irritation of people. The failure of the pension reform, laws directed against summer residents, self-employed, tightening nuts on all fronts sharply alienated me from power, from the current composition of the State Duma and the government. I cannot vote for such a government that wants to squeeze the last juice out of the people. At the same time, Navalny and his comrades-in-arms and temporary allies from the same party pose no less danger to our people ... Once they get to power, they will create the same mess in Russia as in Ukraine. On the nose, elections to the State Duma and bitterness in the struggle for power between opponents will only grow. The power's reliance on Putin's rating can quickly shrink through the fault of the government itself. The country's internal instability is much more dangerous for us, the country can collapse because of this, how many times in history For Russia, this had sad consequences.
    2. nnm
      nnm 15 February 2021 06: 47
      +13
      Have you noticed that there were no clearly defined tasks, clear slogans and requirements? The young people came out against, but not for.

      The fact of the matter is that organized actions give a clear, simple and memorable slogan, a symbol: "Get out gang!", A white-red flag, "blm!" etc. Because this image should be understandable, easy to remember, be bright and find a response - like a Soros badge with a palm clenched into a fist. It wasn't here. But it was clearly preparing. It seems that an interesting event took place - those expected by the organizers did not come to the rallies. And the youth came out, not belonging to the supporters of Navalny. And the situation turned out to be paradoxical - yes, people came out, but they were not the ones on whom the bet was made. That is why Lyosha's headquarters curtailed its shares.
      But the search, and most importantly, the successful "finding" of exclusively foreign reasons and excuses is a path to nowhere. The biggest problem is precisely this - the curators, as a rule, do not invent reasons for dissatisfaction, but use the already existing ones. And to say that we ourselves should not change inside is not correct. For it would be a huge folly not to solve internal problems every time, but to hope that the final opinion of people will be different.
      And you, colleague, are calling us on an extremely dangerous road - I do not agree with the pension reform - an enemy of the people; against the transportation of state officials' dogs by charters, the awarding of 23 year old children of friends with state awards - are you not an agent of the West; and if one is wondering about the merger of power and oligarchy, then, definitely, the enemy of everything in the world!
      You very much reminded of the actions of the Ukrainian authorities in that part of how they now justify the closure of TV channels, etc.
      1. Far B
        Far B 15 February 2021 06: 58
        +12
        And you, colleague, are calling us on an extremely dangerous road - I do not agree with the pension reform - an enemy of the people; against the transportation of state officials' dogs by charters, the awarding of 23 year old children of friends with state awards - are you not an agent of the West; and if one is wondering about the merger of power and oligarchy, then, definitely, the enemy of everything in the world!
        Something, your will, you ascribe someone else's to me. I just think that it is necessary to put questions to the authorities, otherwise they are up there, already completely bronzed, they believe that they will get away with any nonsense.
        1. nnm
          nnm 15 February 2021 07: 04
          +9
          Greetings colleague! I meant the author of the article. And with your opinion on the topic under discussion, I completely agree - it is dangerous to look for all reasons anywhere, but not in ourselves.
    3. Cottodraton
      Cottodraton 15 February 2021 06: 54
      -10%
      And it was necessary for everyone to get sick with covid, for the sake of the hucksters and their "dumplings"? I don't want to ...
      As for the "little people", there are really a lot of people out of the people who spend any savings on alcohol and spice. There are especially many such "potsykoffs" in the garage environment, where every day he smokes up to a glass of all sorts of rubbish. They have money for entertainment, but not for the maintenance of themselves and their children. I also have to support these "eagles" and their households (the state lives off my taxes, as it were) ... I don't want to again ...
      Guys, you got drunk! You have no civil responsibility. You are terribly selfish. You only want and demand, but you are not able to give something in return. The stench about "violation of your freedoms" immediately comes to mind.
      One populism, in short ...
      1. Far B
        Far B 15 February 2021 07: 09
        +4
        Guys, you got drunk! You have no civil responsibility. You are terribly selfish. You only want and demand, but you are not able to give something in return. Immediately there is a stench about "violation of your freedoms"
        Direct cry of some kind. My monitor almost cracked from the influx of feelings. Apparently, you got a lot of "potsyki" from the garage environment.
      2. aars
        aars 15 February 2021 07: 10
        +4
        Cool stuffing.
        And about the unfortunate covid, for which the doctors pay for the entry into the diagnosis and smoke about ...
        It's funny, but stupid - no one will smoke a glass, it is beyond human strength.
      3. Revival
        Revival 15 February 2021 09: 16
        0
        That is, you are considering this method for pensioners, right?
        Well, what can be analogous, but they will buy all kinds of chemistry in pharmacies, and they shout that they do not have enough money, right? And what did they actually give to the country, right ?, so that they can support them with your taxes ...
        Or those retirees, etc., the problem is too small a fry to be indignant about it
    4. Stas157
      Stas157 15 February 2021 09: 27
      +22
      Quote: Dalny V
      In short, another protective material from Staver.

      This "comrade" probably has trainings from a nightingale about artistic whistling.
    5. sniperino
      sniperino 15 February 2021 09: 51
      -8
      Quote: Dalny V
      Young people went against, but not for

      Precisely what is against. That is, the authorities themselves did everything to set up
      Not power, but age itself, the features of which are:
      1) the contradiction between puberty, which gives a sense of adulthood, and social immaturity - social restrictions that do not allow a teenager and a young man dependent on parents to fully realize this feeling, which is important for them in society; and 2) an identity crisis, when a young person has not yet decided who he wants to be in this life.
      Hence their rebellious spirit "against" and lack of understanding "for" what they want to achieve with their rebellion, and their readiness at all times and in all countries to speak out for any kipish, except hunger strike.
      1. tasha
        tasha 15 February 2021 13: 54
        +3
        Your comment is interesting, but I cannot completely agree with him. Age is not the only thing.
        The only trouble is that if you do not react to the protests, sooner or later they will be led by radical elements. And then everyone will feel bad ...
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 15 February 2021 15: 11
          -2
          Quote: tasha
          if you don't react to the protests, sooner or later they will be led by radical elements
          If you do not respond to attempts to involve teenagers in politics, they will be drawn into protests by radical elements sooner or later, even in the richest and most prosperous country.
    6. Cowbra
      Cowbra 15 February 2021 09: 56
      -13%
      Quote: Dalny V
      That is, the authorities themselves did everything to turn people against themselves, their beloved.

      Okay, let's say, all the power is just nowhere worse. What suggestions? What should be done? No offers? Then sit silently, "Ubi nil vales, ibi nihil velis" - Where you are not capable of anything, you should not want anything.
      Any ideas where to get money to pay pensions from 60 years old? When for one able-bodied person in the country there are already somewhere three dependents (this is the term)? Specifically - where exactly. and in numbers? No? That's it, the question about pensions is CLOSED.
      1. Roman070280
        Roman070280 15 February 2021 12: 15
        +5
        Any ideas where to get money to pay pensions from 60 years old? ?


        The share of the wealthiest Russians, who own practically all financial assets and cash savings in Russia, is only 3 percent of the population.
        Economists state that over five years, the share of all financial assets in the country attributable to the richest citizens of Russia increased by 5 percentage points: if in 2013 it was 84,3%, then by 2018 it increased to 89,3%. A similar indicator for cash savings increased over the same time by 11 percentage points - from 78% to 89%. As of May 2018, the richest Russians owned 92 percent of all time deposits in the country (in 2013 - 92,2).


        When there are about three dependents for one able-bodied person in the country (the term is this)
        So there are much fewer dependents in our country .. only 3% ..
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 15 February 2021 12: 29
          -8
          It is clear, take away and divide. Read the answer in the same book where you took the idea. Again - in numbers - how much money do you expect to withdraw, and what will you do when it stupidly runs out? And by the way, HOW are you going to remove it?
          This is populism. To speak without specifics, unfounded slogans. How much money, how to withdraw, how much they will last - zero information.
          A simple example is Navalny UKRAL 500 million from a non-profit organization. How will you take away? Specific example - state the solution
          1. Roman070280
            Roman070280 15 February 2021 12: 53
            +4
            It is clear, take away and divide.

            You asked a question - I gave a straightforward answer .. Something is wrong again ..

            Again, you need to approach business competently .. from the right side ..
            This article only says that "There is money."
            But the fact that they are taken away from the people (under the same increase in the retirement age) and are divided among themselves by the same 3% - you should think about this ...
            You yourself proceeded from the assumption that "Okay, let’s say, all power is just nowhere worse. What proposals? What should be done?"
            Apparently - you prefer to leave everything as it is .. let them plunder further .. we can't take the stolen from the thieves .. Let it be better that there will be no money for retirement ..))

            This is populism. To speak without specifics, unfounded slogans.

            Where did you see the slogan there ??) I gave a real fact !! And about the availability of money, and about the number of dependents .. Read carefully ..

            And populism is when Medvedev (Putin) comes out and says that there is no money ..

            Navalny STEALED 500 million from a non-profit organization. How will you take away?
            And what prevents to confiscate stolen goods ?? The question is not clear ..

            PS .. With Navalny, they will just figure it out .. if he stole something ..
            Who will deal with those notorious 3% .. who CONTINUE to rob the population, and they themselves appoint judges ..
            1. Cowbra
              Cowbra 15 February 2021 12: 57
              -5
              Quote: Roman070280
              And what prevents the confiscation of the stolen goods?

              That it was brought out over the hill.
              Quote: Roman070280
              You asked a question - I gave a straightforward answer .. Something is wrong again ..

              Direct answer? How are you going to confiscate Gazprom shares? Are you confiscating the pipe? And nothing that it is 50% owned by foreigners, and they invested money? And after confiscation, it will not give you a profit - it will give you costs - you will pay with all this Basf and Shell. Where is the money, what to confiscate? Let's take Navalny as an example - how do you confiscate? Specifically?
              You did not give a direct answer, but a slogan - take everything away, divide everything! What to take away? In numbers - how much to divide? There is no specifics - "take away ALL"! And from this it will be immediately great for EVERYONE! This is what populism is.
              How much money do those 3% have? Why are they dependent on drinking? This is a term, a specific term! Pensioners, children, disabled people - dependents. You are a populist. And these are all terms!
              1. Roman070280
                Roman070280 15 February 2021 13: 03
                +3
                That it was brought out over the hill.
                How are you going to confiscate Gazprom shares?


                Yes, everything, I understand ..
                We sit down and sit on .. We are waiting for 93% of the loot to turn into 99% ..

                Where is the money, what to confiscate? Let's take Navalny as an example - how do you confiscate? Specifically?

                I can ask even more specifically - will a pension from 75 years old suit you ?? And from 95 years old will suit ?? And if the salary is completely canceled ?? So you will work. boosting the wealth of those 3% ?? Well, after all, nothing can be done .. You can only bow your head even more ..))

                Shl .. I don't see any problems with Navalny .. we specifically bring charges, put them behind bars .. confiscate his and his family's property ..
                1. Cowbra
                  Cowbra 15 February 2021 13: 10
                  -5
                  Quote: Roman070280
                  Yes, everything, I understand ..

                  That is, CHTD. There is no specifics, there is naked populism. 3% have the majority of deposits! And not all, but only urgent ones. I don’t know how much it is in rubles, but it must be taken away and divided! I don't even know if it will be enough to pay pensions. And I don’t know if after the withdrawal of deposits we will have to close banks and pay dismissal and unemployment benefits to those who have been reduced. And a lot of other things, for example, banks will not be able to give loans to industry, which means they will not open new factories and jobs in the country. But I am Sharikov, the main thing for me is to take away and divide.
                  Quote: Roman070280
                  retirement from 75 years old will suit you

                  If there are no other options, then no one cares what suits whom. And you have NO options. So you have to, if that - and you get a job. This is reality, not the hallucinatory delusions of populists. And not a computer game
                  1. Roman070280
                    Roman070280 15 February 2021 13: 15
                    +7
                    If there are no other options, then no one cares what suits anyone. And you have NO options.

                    So you just have no options ..
                    More precisely, there is only one option - let everything remain as it is.
                    And the question "Any ideas where to get money to pay pensions from 60 years old?"
                    Although the answer has already been received .. But we will continue to close our eyes and bury our heads in the sand ..
                    And this is real life, with real people .. and not a computer game ..
                    1. Cowbra
                      Cowbra 15 February 2021 13: 18
                      -8
                      Nothing hangs anywhere. The whole world is increasing the retirement age for this very reason. 65 a lot? How many years has he been like this in Germany? And in the USA? Oh. sorry, in the USA it is already 67, and for both men and women ... But the populists are not interested.
                      Increasing age is the only possible solution. And you have no other options. you will find an option, specific - come in. Until then, Ibi Nil Wales! You are not capable of anything
                      1. Roman070280
                        Roman070280 15 February 2021 13: 24
                        +5
                        The whole world is increasing the retirement age for this very reason.

                        Enough verbiage .. The question was that there is no money for retirement .. supposedly .. And they are ..
                        If you want to talk about Germany, then start with how much a German pensioner should save for a vacation in Turkey, and how much for ours.

                        Increasing age is the only possible solution.
                        With what fright ?? Soloviev did he say so ??)
                        Since when did the robbery of the population be presented as any decision ?? You initially put the wrong conditions in the decision .. and you are looking for the wrong answer ..

                        There is money ... but the fact that their incorrect distribution and concentration in the same hands is forcing the abolition of pensions - this should be linked to
                        Okay, let's say, all the power is just nowhere worse. What suggestions?
                      2. Cowbra
                        Cowbra 15 February 2021 14: 28
                        -6
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Enough verbiage .. The question was that there is no money for retirement .. supposedly .. And they are ..

                        What are you saying? That's exactly what I wanted from you! Come on without verbiage - show me specifically - where to get money for retirement. How much - specifically money. how to pick them up - specifically?
                        It's you out. above - I switched to verbiage when I asked you about specific steps! What exactly is to be done now? For example? In the form - the central bank is obliged to arrest the bulk account of 500 million rubles in the bank Sberbank, which will be enough to pay a pension of 10 rubles a month for 000 year
                        4 thousand of 50 million pensioners in the Russian Federation, next year they will have to suck their paws. And with any one-time withdrawal of savings from anyone - savings will quickly run out, and all pensioners will start sucking their paws. But from 60 years old!
                      3. Roman070280
                        Roman070280 15 February 2021 14: 50
                        +3
                        Come on without verbiage - show me specifically - where to get money for retirement. How much - specifically money. how to pick them up - specifically?


                        Above in the quote, these are the questions that are answered .. Where is the money, and how much ..

                        I asked you about specific steps!

                        I told you specifically about Navalny ..

                        the central bank is obliged to arrest the bulk account of 500 million rubles in the bank Sberbank

                        If Navalny stole them, of course, he must be arrested ..

                        which is enough to pay a pension of 10 rubles per month for 000 year
                        4 thousand pensioners out of 50 million in the Russian Federation
                        See how good it is !! At the same time, Navalny is far from the kind of person who mercilessly and hopelessly plunders the country ..

                        next year they will have to suck their paw.
                        Strange conclusion ..))
                        If you expose Navalny, confiscate what was stolen, will this lead to the fact that people then have to suck their paws ?? Then maybe Zakharchenko was arrested in vain ??
                        Maybe that's why people are getting worse at life ??
                        Stop composing heresy ..
                        They wrote to you in Russian - 3% of people speak 93% of all funds in the country !! You don't need to know higher mathematics in order to calculate further yourself.
                        even if it is stupid to distribute this money, one year will not be enough ..
                        But, of course, this money should not be handed out (and not stolen, as it is now), but work in the economy.
                        Then people will have salaries of $ 5 a month, and pensions of $ 2.
                        Are these some fantastic numbers ??
                        Of course, when people are accustomed to poverty, it seems more realistic to have a pension of 150-200 bucks .. and all that is higher, you can yell "no money" .. Which is what we hear ..
                        And this is in one of the richest countries on the planet !!
                        Either the climate is not the same for us, or the territory is not of that size, or there are hundreds of reasons more ...
                        But that is money !!
                        The fact that the thieves have seated their accomplices in all key posts, and it is not easy to resolve this issue - this is natural ..
                        But, it should be distinguished that it is one thing when there is really no money .. and another is when they are stolen, but they say - you are holding on there ..
                        How to identify thieves, catch them, and what to do next is a separate and long discussion .. First, we must admit whether we are ready for this. or "it will do well" ..
                        With a wave of the wand, there will be no easy, immediate decision.
                        But if, "and so it goes" - then there is no need to write that there is actually no money .. We must write - yes, we understand that we are being robbed, but we will tolerate further ..
                        Then we will not even have a dispute ..))
                      4. Cowbra
                        Cowbra 15 February 2021 14: 56
                        -6
                        Complete rubbish. Firstly, YOU - did NOT answer SPECIFICALLY. Not about Navalny, not about other things. Navalny, by the way, has no account for 500 million in savings. And YOU - didn't say anything.
                        Further. SINGLE seizure is not income. Some pensioners will be enough for a year. Then the money will run out, and there is no inflow - EVERYONE will suck the paw.
                        I repeat - enough verbiage, list the SPECIFIC steps.
                        I'm waiting for a direct answer - where, how much, how.
                      5. Roman070280
                        Roman070280 15 February 2021 15: 14
                        +2
                        YOU - Nothing SPECIFICALLY answered. Not about Navalny


                        Learning to read in Russian ..))

                        Where is the money, what to confiscate? Let's take Navalny as an example - how do you confiscate? Specifically?

                        I don't see any problems with Navalny .. we specifically bring charges, put them behind bars .. confiscate his and his family's property ..

                        Everything was answered .. And you lied ..


                        Navalny, by the way, has no account for 500 million in savings.
                        So what?? I didn’t write what it is ..
                        Who cares how much he has in his accounts ..
                        we bring charges, put them behind bars .. confiscate his and his family's property ..
                        That's it, the question is closed ..


                        Next. SINGLE withdrawal is not income... Some pensioners will be enough for a year. Then the money will run out

                        Learning to read in Russian .. I'll highlight it fatter, so that you can see it better ..))

                        They wrote to you in Russian - 3% of people speak 93% of all funds in the country !! You don't need to know higher mathematics in order to calculate further yourself.
                        even if it is stupid to distribute this money, one year will not be enough ..
                        But of course, this money should not be distributed (and not steal, as now), but work in the economy ..
                        Then people will have salaries of $ 5 a month, and pensions of $ 2.
                        Are these some fantastic numbers ??
                        Of course, when people are accustomed to poverty, it seems more realistic to have a pension of 150-200 bucks .. and all that is higher, you can yell "no money" .. Which is what we hear ..
                        And this is in one of the richest countries on the planet !!
                        Either the climate is not the same for us, or the territory is not of that size, or there are hundreds of reasons more ...
                        But that is money !!
                        The fact that the thieves have seated their accomplices in all key posts, and it is not easy to resolve this issue - this is natural ..
                        But, it should be distinguished that it is one thing when there is really no money .. and another is when they are stolen, but they say - you are holding on there ..
                        How to identify thieves, catch them, and what to do next is a separate and long discussion .. First, we must admit whether we are ready for this. or "it will do well" ..
                        With a wave of the wand, there will be no easy, immediate decision.
                        But if, "and so it goes" - then there is no need to write that there is actually no money .. We must write - yes, we understand that we are being robbed, but we will tolerate further ..
                        Then we will not even have a dispute ..))



                        and there is no inflow - EVERYONE will suck the paw.
                        The influx should not come from stolen money ..))
                        Your reasoning is strange ..
                        The answer has already been .. you read, read ..))
                        But of course, this money should not be distributed (and not steal, as now), but work in the economy ..


                        paw will be sucked by EVERYONE.

                        The answer has already been given ..

                        Strange conclusion ..))
                        If you expose Navalny, confiscate what was stolen, will this lead to the fact that people then have to suck their paws ?? Then maybe Zakharchenko was arrested in vain ??
                        Maybe that's why people are getting worse at life ??
                        Stop composing heresy ..

                        I will add - the paw is cocyt when money is simply stolen and nothing is done .. If the situation is changed, and you don’t have to suck the paw ..


                        list the SPECIFIC steps.
                        I'm waiting for a direct answer - from where, how much,

                        No question .. Repetition is the mother of learning ..

                        The share of the wealthiest Russians, who own practically all financial assets and cash savings in Russia, is only 3 percent of the population.
                        Economists state that over five years, the share of all financial assets in the country attributable to the richest citizens of Russia increased by 5 percentage points: if in 2013 it was 84,3%, then by 2018 it increased to 89,3%. A similar indicator for cash savings increased over the same time by 11 percentage points - from 78% to 89%. As of May 2018, the richest Russians owned 92 percent of all time deposits in the country (in 2013 - 92,2).



                        as.

                        And even "how"
                        The fact that the thieves have seated their accomplices in all key posts, and it is not easy to resolve this issue - this is natural ..
                        But, it should be distinguished that it is one thing when there is really no money .. and another is when they are stolen, but they say - you are holding on there ..
                        Как identifying thieves, catching, and what to do next is a separate and long discussion .. First, we must admit whether we are ready for this. or "and so it will do" ..
                        With a wave of the wand, there will be no easy, immediate decision.
                        But if, "and so it goes" - then there is no need to write that there is actually no money .. We must write - yes, we understand that we are being robbed, but we will tolerate further ..
                        Then we will not even have a dispute ..))


                        Believe me, if you don't know, then the authorities know perfectly well HOW to catch, how to confiscate, etc. For this I don't need to paint a mountain of textbooks here, flattering your vanity
                        You can AS with Zakharchenko, for example .. Or will you again say that he was in vain, and the money was taken away?)
                        You have -
                        Some pensioners will be enough for a year. Then the money will run out, and there is no inflow - EVERYONE will suck the paw
                        ..)))
                      6. Cowbra
                        Cowbra 15 February 2021 15: 42
                        -2
                        The property of such Navalny is a jeep, an apartment, 10-20 thousand dollars. Globally - minuscule. With the property of Navalny, God forbid, for a couple of pensioners, there was enough interest from the taken away property, and with a ratio of 3% with money like Navalny's, for 50 million (30%) only pensioners, there is no profit. Further, on what basis to take away? With bulk it is clear - a thief. On what basis to take away from Rotenberg? Head of the office that built the Crimean Bridge. the income belongs to him. Reasons for weaning? And what to take away? A firm? Or income? Leave the firm, but so that he does not receive a spear from it? Again - on what basis
                        Psi
                        You can AS with Zakharchenko, for example .. Or will you again say that he was in vain, and the money was taken away?)

                        Zakharchenko has ALREADY been imprisoned, and still there is not enough money. Do not play around - suggest what to do. what is NOT done. You have not offered ANYTHING AGAIN yet! I repeat - enough to play around - specific proposals. SPECIFIC! Not your verbiage again!
                      7. Cowbra
                        Cowbra 15 February 2021 15: 50
                        -2
                        Will there be enough thieves to retire?
    7. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 15 February 2021 15: 43
      +5
      Quote: Cowbra
      Quote: Roman070280
      And what prevents the confiscation of the stolen goods?
      That it was brought out over the hill.

      If you please lie. For example, nornickel. At least until today, he was definitely on the territory of the Russian Federation. As well as Surgutneftegaz, and smelting and much more. Who / what prevents from investigating the loans-for-shares auctions, and the landing of organizers and participants? Notice. Just strict implementation of the laws, and the budget will receive annual revenues under a trillion rubles. Only from three companies ...
      Further. Almost the whole world uses a progressive taxation scale. And the United States, which we do not like so much, and China, which we are delighted with. Why is the introduction of a progressive scale, which will affect 5-10 percent of the population in the Russian Federation, is impossible, and the pension reform, which hits 80% of the population, slips with a bang?
      The problem is not Russia's lack of financial resources. The problem is that our elite is deeply and hopelessly criminal. And he perceives the state not as a house, by the way, but as a cash cow.
  3. sniperino
    sniperino 15 February 2021 15: 18
    -2
    Quote: Roman070280
    take stolen from thieves
    If the investigation finds out that Western intelligence services provided money and installed videos to N-no to organize a coup d'etat in the Russian Federation, is it right to take them away from him, and put him in prison? Or, in your opinion, it is correct to take away only from the one to whom N will point, or others will point him with their hands.
  • sniperino
    sniperino 15 February 2021 18: 56
    -2
    Quote: Roman070280
    So the number of dependents in our country is much less .. only 3%.
    All children, unemployed pensioners, disabled people ... Did you consider them, Roman? These are not all dependents. Some live at the expense of their parents, but have education, treatment, benefits from the state, others - at the expense of the state for which they worked. But all of them are much more than 3%. The figures given by you are not about that at all. By spreading lies from some left-wing sources, you, of course, harm the society, the community of forum participants, but most of all - yourself. And this is me - not about the immortal soul, but about the mental processes of thinking and memory.
  • Mitroha
    Mitroha 15 February 2021 05: 36
    0
    In my opinion, this will continue until our country, represented by its leaders, gives back, such a full-blown slap in the face. And it does not matter in what it will be expressed - whether it will be a diplomatic tough response, permission from the Ministry of Defense to shoot down and drown those approaching the border at the minimum possible distance, a complete cessation of financial relations or something else. But what needs to be answered, and what needs to be answered, is clear to many yesterday. Otherwise, even the yard mongrels begin to think that the bear is old and feeble. This idea must be knocked out of our heads. IMHO
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 15 February 2021 19: 20
      -3
      Quote: Mitroha
      ... whether it will be a diplomatic tough response, permission from the Ministry of Defense to shoot down and drown those approaching the border ... But what needs to be answered and needs to be answered was clear to many yesterday.
      You seem to be worried about this, but a diplomatic tough response was already yesterday ... The client goes into mild hysteria. I wouldn’t be glad that they began to fight back. Or is this not enough, should the Strategic Missile Forces have been immediately involved? You, as if, create noise from scratch. We will definitely bang, but then.
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 15 February 2021 05: 42
    +24
    Only instead of a cockroach, a pension reform, coronavirus, low salaries, lack of education, wealth of the rich and poverty of the poor are used ... Even the snow that fell

    Funny.
    And to what category of enemies and their accomplices do you classify those who arranged this very pension reform?
    Did the Americans bring it to us too?
    Or about the unheard-of level of stratification into rich and poor (right, in fact, beggars. For the poor are those whose income is above the subsistence level, but below the minimum consumer budget. And a quarter of our population does not even reach the subsistence level. half of them hide their income, saving a meager salary from taxes, but many are really beggars.) Have you also thought of "voices"?
    And are these "voices" not being fed from the state pocket?
    So who is the enemy in this case?

    And NATO ... but what really, the first time or something. They will come - beat. Or we will burn together, and they will simply die, and we will go to Paradise (maybe at least there we will finally live as people) ...
    1. Destiny
      Destiny 15 February 2021 06: 22
      +18
      The enemy factor is very important. On the one hand, it provides consolidation around power, and on the other hand, reduces claims to power. That is, inside there is an absolute depression, there is no economic growth, and incomes are falling. Against this background, a catastrophic optimization of hospitals has occurred, especially in rural areas. the closure of hospitals, maternity hospitals, the reduction of ambulances, the growth of paid education, paid health care. That is, life has become no better, and perhaps worse in most regions of the country. Putin cannot be blamed for this, he works like a galley slave, does everything possible. Then Who is to blame? The external enemies are to blame and the internal enemies are to blame, who else .. It is they who reduced the standard of living of the people and increased the retirement age.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 15 February 2021 05: 49
    +2
    Perhaps I am an idealist, but I think the collective West should be opposed by the collective East. Of course, military power is necessary for it, but the main thing is the unity of understanding and development of this part of the world. And when some Ryazan visa appears for moving in the East, then there will be no need to strengthen the spirit of these peoples. If we consider that the protests of the youth are intrigues of the West, then how to count the protests in the West itself?
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 15 February 2021 05: 56
    +3
    Yes, the "neighbor" is all right: Davos is on schedule, the "pump" is pumping, the printer prints a photo of the wolfhound. And the mood disposes to great appetites: a "NATO" chevron was attached to its own dog. laughing
  • Koval Sergey
    Koval Sergey 15 February 2021 06: 04
    +24
    The attitude of the Alliance towards us has long been known. Was the author told to mobilize the public?
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 15 February 2021 06: 04
    -20%
    The author maliciously and cynically (c) - "Mimino" - spat in the soul of all the bots working on the site in the sweat of their brow. The author of the article is not to shower with minuses! We'll have to write nonsense in style
    But instead of a cockroach, they use pension reform, coronavirus, low salaries, lack of education, wealth of the rich and poverty of the poor ... Even the snow that has fallen will do. Moreover, when someone suddenly talks about the stupidity of such claims, a whole flock of supporters of the previous statement attacks him.

    However, they have already started above.
    - Doesn't take! - Edik said bitterly over my ear. - Things are bad, Sasha ... They have no morality, these sewers ...
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 15 February 2021 06: 12
    +3
    I doubt that the United States is eager to fight with us, they train non-brothers and others like them for the first test strike, and then how it goes.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 February 2021 06: 12
    -2
    The collective West is outraged. America is outraged. The European Union is outraged
    They are outraged by the fact that we exist in general, do not want to obey and transfer our natural resources under their control with subsequent distribution. In such a situation, it is of course useless to call for restraint and compliance with any international norms. Strengthening its defense capability, economy is the only thing that can stop Western Wishlist at least for a while. To clearly know one thing - in which case they will get in the teeth so that they will again forget about their claims for 70 years.
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 15 February 2021 06: 31
      +14
      Quote: rotmistr60
      do not want to obey and transfer our natural resources under their control

      Yes, like bae, already.
      For example, the "national property" Gazprom is only 50% Russian.
      Rosneft - 40%.
      About Rusal, I hope no need to explain? Everyone remembers how his hopes were privatized to the Americans?
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 15 February 2021 06: 44
        -15%
        Jacket in stock
        Yes, like bae, already.
        Yes, as if not quite. We can recall M. Albright with her: "Russia has too many natural resources. This is unfair."
        1. Jacket in stock
          Jacket in stock 15 February 2021 06: 57
          +14
          I remember more that in her opinion there are too many people in Russia.
          And we ourselves give natural resources to them. They are standing back, forbid us to build another pipe, but we stubbornly want to give more, more, more ...
          1. Destiny
            Destiny 15 February 2021 07: 05
            +22
            Quote: Jacket in stock
            And we ourselves give natural resources to them. They are standing back, forbid us to build another pipe, but we stubbornly want to give more, more, more ...

            Exactly. Factories should be built, not pipes. The USSR, with its developed industry, the West with its sanctions was up to one place.
            1. tasha
              tasha 15 February 2021 14: 48
              +2
              The USSR, with its developed industry, was in the West with its sanctions to one place.
              Alas, this is not the case. KOCOM's activities had a significant impact on the development of technology in the USSR.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 15 February 2021 06: 28
    +21
    A good, strong, propaganda article. I read it and wanted to ask: And where is the king ... eeeee, volunteers are recorded to save either the Motherland, or the oligarchs with their property abroad. ... Will swallow Russ, oh swallow laughing .Kapets, there will be no foreign cars in the country and other garbage that we cannot produce, all kinds of "pyaterochki" and "sixes" will be closed.
    They are trying to divide Russian society according to any principle.
    ..Before this, you understand, we were one. Abramovich and I. We are spiritually united. But the enemies want to separate us. Then he met a friend, buy and sell a small man, he complains not to the West, to the state. to remove the market. To replace hyper-super-markets. Creative successes. Sow reasonable, kind, eternal.laughing
  • aars
    aars 15 February 2021 06: 38
    +12
    The young people came out against, but not for. The German patient was just one of the slogans. Moreover, most of the protesters did not even really know who he was.
    Everything is correct, except that the proportion of young people is about the same as in previous protests.
    The Berlin patient is not known and is not trusted even according to the data of the patient's supporters.
    And we would be glad to lie, but in any way, not believable.
    In the same way, the transfer of arrows to the West, the USA and others like them is not plausible.
    Nobody knows them either, let alone trust them.
    The reasons for the protests lie entirely on the surface - the long-term economic recession, the continuing impoverishment, the so-called. "laws" aimed exclusively at taking money from the population.
    Everything is simple and clear.
    It is also clear that no "image of the enemy", "the intrigues of the United States" can fool the people, the protests will continue and widen.
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  • HaByxoDaBHocep
    HaByxoDaBHocep 15 February 2021 07: 03
    +17
    Well, the author turned it down) the whole world is damn sleeping and sees how to capture Russia, and why are we already a colony; do they want to disunite society, is it so divided into the poor and the rich, or does the author suggest that we merge in an embrace in the face of an alleged common enemy with Potanin, Abramovich, Smushkin? and the funniest message of the article, if I'm against Putin means for Oval?, but this is not so, I am against any liberals)
  • Bastinda
    Bastinda 15 February 2021 07: 15
    +9
    Looking back over the past months, it becomes clear that NATO and the United States have been trying to intimidate us almost all winter.

    And I remember Tereshkova's speech more ... It became clear that they would deceive us again.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 15 February 2021 07: 26
    -9
    The most amazing thing is that all these "critics" will enjoy all social guarantees. To begin with, it would be possible to deprive these "activists" of health insurance for 5-10 years. All types of medical assistance are paid only. Limit or prohibit enrollment in universities, for any form of study. Introduce restrictions on hiring, in the civil service. V. Tsoi worked as a fireman and nevertheless achieved recognition of his talent. Although he shouted, they say, "Changes! Our hearts demand" Shouted in between loading the wheelbarrow, coal. And nothing..
    I understand when a person went out into the street with a poster and calmly protests, expresses his dissatisfaction with the authorities. But everything should be within the framework of the law and the elementary culture of behavior. Why rush into a fight at the police, smash passing cars? This is no longer a protest, but a continuous crime. And criminality must be fought. To Magadan, to the zone. There, let them try to "protest".
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 15 February 2021 10: 49
      -3
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      To Magadan, to the zone. There, let them try to "protest".

      They don't want to go to Magadan to the Zone ... look how many minuses they threw on you. They want to eat tastier while doing nothing. And on the site they earn their 30 kopecks. But, there are a lot of idlers on the Internet, in life - a percentage equal to the statistical error. hi
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 15 February 2021 12: 42
        +2
        I can already see that the minuses have been sketched. Don't give a damn ... Let them play on the sly.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 15 February 2021 07: 26
    -1
    Will stop (confrontation) at the stage of apparently obtaining the desired funding and a tough sucker from Washington to carry out the decisions of the party and the government.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 15 February 2021 07: 45
    +1
    The matter will be limited to the usual barking, or the gate will still be open, and the wolfhound will have to strangle a couple of mongrels - it is unknown

    Let's see, count and ... The wolfhound needs to be well fed, if he has already identified himself as the owner, be kind, take care !!!
  • bar
    bar 15 February 2021 07: 47
    +1
    At what stage will confrontation with the USA and NATO stop

    She won't stop never... NATO was created by the US specifically to oppose us. And as long as it exists, nothing will change, this is its essence.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 February 2021 07: 56
    0
    As soon as life in the USA starts getting bad, it will begin. Negroes need to be fed, now they are already engaged in postscripting, all financial indicators are inflated.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 15 February 2021 08: 09
    +8
    Risks to the country's economy are created not by the collective West, but by the mediocre thieving leadership of this very country.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 15 February 2021 08: 12
    +3
    Dear transmission!
    On Saturday, almost crying
    The whole Kanatchikova cottage
    I was torn to the TV.
    Instead of eating, washing,
    There it is, prick and forget,
    The whole crazy hospital
    Gathered at the screens.

    He spoke breaking his hands
    Krasnobay and balamut
    About the powerlessness of science
    Before the secret of Bermuda.
    He broke all brains into pieces,
    All the gyruses wandered -
    And the rope authorities
    They inject us with a second injection.

    Dear Editor!
    Maybe better - about the reactor?
    There, about your favorite moon tractor?
    After all, it’s impossible! - year in a row
    That scare plates -
    Say, vile, fly,
    Then your dogs bark
    That ruins say!

    We have gotten used to something:
    We beat plates all year round -
    We already ate the dog on them,
    If the cook doesn’t lie to us.
    A medicine pile
    We are in the toilet, who are not daruk.
    This is life! And suddenly - Bermuda!
    Here are those times! You can’t do that!

    We did not scandal -
    We lacked a leader:
    Real violent little -
    So there are no leaders.
    But to the machinations and ravings
    We have networks and ravings -
    And they won’t spoil our masses
    Evil machinations of enemies!

    These are their bad devils
    Muddy the water in the pond
    Churchill came up with it all
    In the eighteenth year!
    We are about explosions, about fires
    We wrote a TASS note ...
    But the orderlies rushed
    And they fixed us.

    Those who were especially striking
    Tied to the backs of the beds -
    Paranoid in the foam
    Like a witcher on a coven:
    “Untie the towels,
    Inovers, savages, -
    We have a bermutorn in the heart
    And Bermuda is in my soul! ”

    Forty souls howl in shifts
    White-hot -
    In how much bother
    Triangular affairs!
    Everyone's almost crazy crazy
    Even who was insane
    And then the head doctor Margulis
    TV banned.

    There he is, the serpent, looming in the window -
    Behind the plug hides,
    Gave a sign to someone - it means
    The paramedic will rip out the wires.
    And well, we just have to inject,
    And fall to the bottom of the well
    And there is an abyss, at the bottom of the well,
    Like in Bermuda, forever.

    Well, tomorrow the children will ask,
    Visiting us in the morning:
    “Dads, what did these
    Doctor candidates? "
    We will open to our children
    Truth - they care
    We will say: “Amazing near,
    But it is forbidden! "

    There is a dentist-homeworker Rudik -
    His receiver is a grundig,
    He twists it at nights -
    Catching, contra, FRG.
    He was a merchant there
    And moved by reason -
    And we got into a terrible excitement
    And with the number on the leg.

    He came running, extremely excited,
    And the message shocked us
    Like our science ship
    In a triangle mired:
    Faded, spent fuel,
    Straight broke into pieces,
    And our two crazy brothers
    Picked up the fishermen.

    Those who survived the cataclysm
    Stay pessimistic
    Their yesterday in a glass prism
    They brought us to the hospital,
    And one of them, a mechanic,
    Told, running away from the nannies,
    What the Bermuda polyhedron is -
    Unclosed navel of the Earth.

    "What was there? How did you escape? " -
    Everyone climbed and molested,
    But the mechanic only shook
    And the Chinariki shot.
    He cried and laughed
    That bristled like a hedgehog -
    He mocked us ...
    Well, crazy - what can you take!

    A former alcoholic took off -
    Swindler and seditious:
    “We must drink the triangle!
    For three of him! Give me! "
    Dispersed - and pours:
    “The triangle will be drunk!
    Be it a parallelepiped,
    Be it a circle, a louse! "

    Hurt our souls
    Voices thousands of miles away.
    We do not stifle America in vain
    Oh, do not crush Israel in vain:
    With all its hostile essence
    Undermine and harm -
    They feed us, drink us bermuta
    About the mysterious square!

    Lecturers from the program
    (Those who are somehow
    They talk about failure
    And people are nervous)
    Take us doomed
    The triangle of you scientists
    Turns into insane
    Well, we are the opposite.

    Let the crazy idea
    You do not chop in a haste.
    Call us soon
    Through the bastard of the head physician!
    Respectfully ... Date. Signature.
    Answer us, and then,
    If you do not respond,
    We will write ... in "Sportloto"!

    As if it was written today about current events. And all these heroes are easily recognizable. laughing
  • GoraN
    GoraN 15 February 2021 08: 26
    +1
    The author is clearly a dog breeder)))
  • prior
    prior 15 February 2021 08: 30
    +7
    Author. Stop licking the ass of insolent authority.
    She herself, by her actions, created the current situation inside the country.
    And how many deflections there were in front of the partners!
    We know even without her that the West is our Biblical enemy.
    But the authorities, it seems, thought differently, but the "partners" also opened their eyes.
    In the western "wolf pack" Russian billionaire mongrels are not needed, you need to feed your wolf cubs.
  • Runway
    Runway 15 February 2021 08: 49
    +1
    Not an article, but a set of panic slogans. The opposition sinusoid started in 1945 - what's new?
    Of the new - the Russian Federation, let's say, a capital country that has fitted into the situation and accepted the conditions of a unipolar world.
    The conditions, however, were accepted by "foam" (which is called the elite).
    The solution of internal problems and tasks is suspended on a hook “there are enemies around”.
  • U-58
    U-58 15 February 2021 08: 56
    +2
    Can we agree with the author that speaking out in defense of Navalny, against the pension reform, the growth of housing and communal services tariffs are all the intrigues of the West, trying our teeth?
    I think not.
    Such a thing can be presented in such a way that our contented and happy people, only at the instigation of the Western emissaries, went astray and went, so accommodating, to rebel against the regime.
    In fact, we understand that even without "awakening" from the western side, the people are dissatisfied and quite independently go to protest actions.
    They use it across the okiyan sea
    Well, for example, it's not my fault that my discontent with the current regime is beneficial to someone there ..
    Moreover, my discontent, my desires are aimed at bringing the people's regime to power, which is even more hated by the West.
    So the posing of the question is lame.
  • tasha
    tasha 15 February 2021 09: 11
    +1
    "The dark forces are not asleep, you must expose these forces ..."

    Very comfortably. If someone is dissatisfied with the actions of the authorities or is noticed in dissent, then he is certainly an enemy of the state, a traitor, a liberal and in general a very bad person.
    Alexander, who, then, are those people who, in a difficult hour for the country, buy yachts, planes, build palaces (we are not talking about THAT palace, of course) and arrange magnificent celebrations for any reason? Let's say the oligarchs - such a difficult oligarchic fate for them, you have to comply. Well, the state people, public servants and elected deputies ... Who are they?
  • domokl
    15 February 2021 09: 11
    -8
    Thanks to the co-authors for the examples given to the methods of waging information wars indicated in the material.
    "You can't understand Russia with your mind,
    You can not measure the general with a general.
    She has a special feature -
    You can only believe in Russia. "(C)
    Tyutchev F.I.
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 15 February 2021 09: 22
    +6
    = Only instead of a cockroach, a pension reform, coronavirus, low salaries, lack of education, wealth of the rich and poverty of the poor are used ... Even the snow that has fallen will do. =
    The author confirmed the thesis about well-fed, which does not understand the hungry.
    I agree with the author with everything. In addition, you don't have to mix flies with cutlets.
    How is the aggressive rhetoric of the US and NATO preventing us from returning to the Soviet education system? Or does this rhetoric make it difficult to bring the level of salaries to some kind of logical justification? Why does an official receive 500 thousand, and a worker 25 thousand? How can this be explained logically? How can you explain the 2 million salary other than stealing the public pie?
    There are many examples. Again, don't mix flies and cutlets. State security is one thing, but the nonsense and personal greed of people's deputies and officials of all ranks is another. And the people are outraged by this particular nonsense.
    1. domokl
      15 February 2021 09: 36
      -9
      I gave the answers to your questions in one of the materials. Everything is very simple. In the 90s, we adopted a bunch of laws, which few remember now, but which just prevent us from returning everything back. We need to cancel them, accept new ones. And who should do it? Thought!. Will Zhirinovsky and a bunch of our veterans of the Duma cancel laws for which they themselves voted? Not.
      Hence, it is necessary to elect others as a deputy. And soon enough. This year.
      This is the arithmetic. We are a country that is trying to legally make the country different. And this is impossible in principle. Again, the laws must be changed. It worked with the constitution, it should work with liberal laws
      1. tasha
        tasha 15 February 2021 09: 42
        +1
        We are a country that is trying to legally make the country different. And this is impossible in principle.
        Do you think? Want a quick example of a country that has become completely different? I legally chose the chancellor and changed ...
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 15 February 2021 10: 08
        +1
        Quote: domokl
        90s we passed a bunch of laws that few remember now,

        Here I agree with you. The laws must be changed. But you will also agree that no deputies will do this until they have fear (and fear is the most powerful motivation) of the people's anger. The authorities must finally understand that it is they who "rock the boat" by their laws that violate social justice. But, again, she will understand this only when she really becomes afraid. How to scare her, power? Only by mass protests. I see no other way. Who should organize them? There is no party, and its creation is impossible - it will immediately fall under repression. But the trade unions can and it is difficult to bring them under repression - they do not claim power, in contrast to the parties. But the trade unions were defeated in the 90s. They need to be recreated. This is my subjective opinion. Is there a better way?
      3. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 15 February 2021 10: 52
        +1
        Quote: domokl
        Hence, it is necessary to elect others as a deputy. And soon enough. This year.
        Here is such arithmetic.

        Where is the arithmetic?
        The arithmetic will be when you calculate how much the elections cost.
        Where do the deputies come from? They are bought by those who have money for it.
        Why should they change the laws if they will not profit from it? Not why.
        They need to recoup investments and earn more. The mechanism is self-replicating.
        The only prospect is if the "fat guys" understand that the current path is a dead end and threatens them with trouble. Then they will voluntarily move over and share a piece of the pie with the others so that the hungry neighbors do not eat them themselves.
      4. HaByxoDaBHocep
        HaByxoDaBHocep 15 February 2021 15: 07
        -2
        Aren't Putin and the entire "top" in power liberals?)
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 15 February 2021 12: 02
    +2
    See what's going on internally. The latest performances by young people are just an exploration of the state of Russian society.

    The state of society, as one of my comrades used to say, is waffle-catastrophic ..
    And the problem is within the country.
    But it is more convenient for someone to continue looking for an external enemy ..
  • Berber
    Berber 15 February 2021 12: 29
    0
    Quote: NDR-791
    This is how you have to be a fool in the president's place
    Everything is so, everything is so ... What kind of fool do you have to be able to slip Medvedev into the country in due time ??? I should have known my stupid friend, eh? And what he managed to heap up in just 4 years need to remind?

    It's like that. Medvedev as president - this was the Gorbachev version 2 event.
  • sannyhome
    sannyhome 15 February 2021 16: 14
    0
    The author does not understand a simple thing - we are different. Where the Russians want peace, the Anglo-Saxons want war. This does not mean that they hate us, no, it's just that they are made that way. This is their way of knowing the world - war by any means. Military, political, economic, etc. They cannot do otherwise. The Germans, French, Japanese and others have already received a blow in the face and understand that it is extremely dangerous to climb up to us. But Great Britain and the United States never fought on their territory, their capitals were not captured, their elites were not piled up in hastily dug holes. Therefore, they consider themselves stronger and have the right to bite us.

    No, they are not stupid - the same Americans are building their empire, their American world, according to the patterns of the most successful empire in history - the Roman one. They are fighting with us taking into account the history of the only successful (temporary) seizure of the territory of Russia - the Tatar-Mongol invasion.

    But, once again, their world is different, we are different. They are fundamentally different. And this beast will not stop until it gets a club in the face. Until blood spills, knocked out teeth will not fly. Until the Anglo-Saxons feel the fear of death, they will put pressure on us in all known ways. Will not help, they will invent new ones. Only imbeciles can believe that we can coexist with them in the world.
  • sannyhome
    sannyhome 15 February 2021 16: 16
    0
    Quote: rotmistr60
    You can remember M. Albright

    Or maybe M. Thatcher with her "on the territory of the USSR, the residence of 15 million people is economically justified"
  • veritas
    veritas 15 February 2021 22: 15
    0
    Analyzing the situation around and inside Russia, we can confidently conclude that the operation to destroy us has begun. Moreover, it is already impossible to stop it. Even with the mutual desire of opponents.

    This operation began 100 years ago. We fear the internal enemy more than the external one. If the "elite" is mediocre, then write wasted.
  • KSVK
    KSVK 16 February 2021 03: 05
    -1
    Quote: domokl
    I gave the answers to your questions in one of the materials. Everything is very simple. In the 90s, we adopted a bunch of laws, which few remember now, but which just prevent us from returning everything back. We need to cancel them, accept new ones. And who should do it? Thought!. Will Zhirinovsky and a bunch of our veterans of the Duma cancel laws for which they themselves voted? Not.
    Hence, it is necessary to elect others as a deputy. And soon enough. This year.
    This is the arithmetic. We are a country that is trying to legally make the country different. And this is impossible in principle. Again, the laws must be changed. It worked with the constitution, it should work with liberal laws

    What do you think, what Zhirinovsky? You, my dear fellow, what country are you talking about? In the Russian Duma, EdRa has an ABSOLUTE majority. ANY law is adopted by the decision of this particular faction. And do you really think that the elections will change something in this situation? I am ready to bet with you for money that everything will remain as it is. And you don’t need to tell me that our glavobnulenets has nothing to do with EdRu, it’s not necessary.
    This is the arithmetic. (from)
  • Outsider
    Outsider 17 February 2021 19: 53
    +1
    Quote: NDR-791
    This is how you have to be a fool in the president's place
    Everything is so, everything is so ... What kind of fool do you have to be able to slip Medvedev into the country in due time ??? I should have known my stupid friend, eh? And what he managed to heap up in just 4 years need to remind?

    - And what did Medvedev do this? laughing
  • ser.rudov2016
    ser.rudov2016 27 February 2021 19: 23
    0
    For 80 years already this confrontation. In us, this NATO threat, serves to distract the electorate from the country's plight and poverty, and in the West, the "bear" of Russia serves to pressure the congressmen in the topic of increasing appropriations for the army. That's all.
  • Vladimir Goncharov
    Vladimir Goncharov 9 March 2021 23: 11
    0
    The confrontation will end only in two cases: either Russia will voluntarily stop violating international law inside and outside its own borders and learn to live about civilized liberal rules (which is of course preferable for everyone) - or it will be taught this by force, dividing it into zones of occupation - as Germany was taught ( which I personally, as a Russian patriot, would not like very much). True, there is another option, completely deplorable: Russia will arrange a nuclear armageddon for the civilized world - just in revenge for the fact that the civilized world lives in an apple, and Russia is in excrement ... The only thing that can not be is that the civilized world will reconcile and allow Russia to increase chaos.
  • Alexander F.
    Alexander F. 11 March 2021 12: 07
    0
    Oh, nevertheless, naivety is not a vice, but a disease, and besides, it is already difficult to cure.
    Smoothly pouring emptiness into emptiness, you can create an illusion, an illusion of reality.
    And what else does the hegemon need to rule the world, is it not a mortal flock and a tight wallet?
    Why am I all this "city". The reason is simple, recently it has become fashionable to drive from empty to empty. In a word, there is a lot of text in the "letters" of the guardians for the Russian people, but there is little information, and this is not casual. Under this sauce, a thought is being introduced into the subconscious of an ordinary man in the street; only his power, and especially its leader, is to blame for all his problems. But there, somewhere, where there are no these usurpers, well, just paradise.
    “You are poor, although you live in the richest country. And all the blame is your power, and especially its leader. Well, the foreign countries themselves, there is absolutely nothing to do with it. ”And literally everyone fell under this verbal“ kneading ”, including Father Tsar and Lenin, and Stalin, and Putin, well, all the polls.
    Well, I love it, I am Russian, for its informativeness.
    Nowadays, money, like money, has lost its original meaning and does not reflect reality. And isn't this the main problem?
    Let's analyze. And can natural resources be a direct synonym for the meaning of the word wealth, in the form that it is for a common man in the street.
    After all, everything is outrageously simple.
    The unit of measurement of purchasing power is money, and all national banknotes are somehow tied to the dollar (world trade). Well, the dollar itself is currently in no way tied to anything at all, except for the "word of honor" of the US Federal Reserve and their armed forces. That is, today, the most liquid resources are not natural resources, but a resource artificially created by the Anglo-Saxon system. And this resource is nothing more than a monopoly on international trade.
    Which, again, translated into Russian, it will sound something like this. One way or another, we are all under the financial occupation of the US Federal Reserve, which in turn is under the protection of the NATO bloc. And we, out of our naivety, believed and still believe that NATO was created only to fight first with the USSR, and then with Russia. Of course, NATO was not created without this idea, but still its main hidden task was and remains the protection of the "machine". In a word, the NATO bloc is the very resource for providing the dollar.
    This raises a logical question, is there a way out of this situation, but without nuclear firing.
    Yes there is, and it is also commonplace.
    With the "red army" we are now all right, and with mathematicians too. And apparently the time has come when it is necessary to develop and create a realistic financial model of the monetary unit based on actual security. Then we, with our boundless expanses, and with boundless natural resources, will be happy.
    So, little remains to be done, the will and courage of the authorities, and we will live as we can afford it, and most importantly, as we deserve it. And it turns out somehow strange, we won the Second World War, and the Anglo-Saxons won. That is, we won, but we were fucked. So it still seems to me that this is not entirely fair, and it's time to "quit" with this.