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Two newest Ukrainian aircraft were banned from flying

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Two newest Ukrainian aircraft were banned from flying

State aviation the service of Ukraine has banned the flights of the two latest Ukrainian aircraft An-132D and An-178, excluding them from the state register of civil aircraft. This is stated on the official website of the aviation service.


As explained, the decision to exclude the aircraft was made on the basis of their lack of airworthiness certificates for a long time and the lack of clearance to monitor their condition. Both aircraft belong to the Antonov state-owned enterprise. In addition to them, the list includes about 50 aircraft and helicopters, which are also prohibited from flying for various reasons.

The decision was taken due to the fact that these aircraft did not have a certificate of airworthiness for two years, and the State Aviation Service during this period did not have access to them to monitor their airworthiness and operation

- the document says.

An-132D is a modification of the Soviet An-32, developed for Saudi Arabia using Western components instead of Russian ones. It was first shown in December 2016. It was called Ukraine's "breakthrough" into the world aviation market, but the Saudis tore up the contract.

The An-178 multipurpose transport aircraft is a development of the An-148 / An-158 regional aircraft. The design of the aircraft was carried out without the use of design documentation, which led to a misalignment of the aircraft due to miscalculations of the designers. The aircraft has not yet been mass-produced, but the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine ordered three An-178s for their needs.
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  1. Mitroha
    Mitroha 13 February 2021 07: 20
    -32%
    The design of the aircraft was carried out without the use of design documentation, which led to a misalignment of the aircraft due to miscalculations of the designers.

    All the same, we have the same roots))
    1. Profiler
      Profiler 13 February 2021 07: 27
      +43
      Quote: Mitroha
      All the same, we have the same roots

      The roots, in the mists of time, perhaps alone, but only sprouting - different.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 February 2021 10: 28
        +12
        Quote: Profiler
        The roots, in the mists of time, may be the same, but only the growth is different.

        The roots are visible even in the photo, in the form of Turkish or Tatar trousers, which are not characteristic of the Slavic peoples. And that is why women have short skirts, which are not typical not only of the Slavic, but also of the peoples of Europe - where does all this come from? We have one more in common, it was once a language, and more than 300 years of joint history after the Mongol-Tatar invasion.
        1. Boris Nevzorov
          Boris Nevzorov 13 February 2021 11: 50
          +20
          Two newest Ukrainian aircraft were banned from flying

          And in general, name these aircraft, well, for example Bandera-132D and Mazepa-178 ... for example.
          It's not good to call them a native of Moscow, a descendant of Russian noblemen Oleg Konstantinovich Antonov!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 13 February 2021 12: 46
            +3
            Quote: Boris Nevzorov
            And in general, name these aircraft, well, for example Bandera-132D and Mazepa-178 ... for example.

            Such people will not fly, and if they did, it would not be long.
            1. Boris Nevzorov
              Boris Nevzorov 13 February 2021 13: 25
              0
              Such people will not fly, and if they did, it would not be long.


              And then from the trampoline.
            2. SAG
              SAG 13 February 2021 15: 21
              +2

              These will not fly, and if they did, it would not be long

              ... but if they fall into the water they will not drown.
        2. silverura
          silverura 13 February 2021 16: 57
          +2
          not characteristic not only of the Slavic, but also of the peoples of Europe - where does all this come from

          They are called Sumerians, descendants of Great Russians! From ancient Greek mythology. In the city of Kiev, they were all baptized.
        3. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 13 February 2021 21: 45
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine

          The roots are visible even in the photo, in the form of Turkish or Tatar trousers, which are not characteristic of the Slavic peoples. And that is why women have short skirts, which are not typical not only of the Slavic, but also of the peoples of Europe - where does all this come from
          Wide pants - short skirts ...
          Everything is natural - first they sew "wide trousers" - the skirts are sewn from what is left ...
    2. Mitroha
      Mitroha 13 February 2021 08: 06
      -1
      For the minusors, I remind the IL-112, in the same way it was drawn in the program by inexperienced designers, the result is overweight. In this sense, I was ironic
      1. Nazar
        Nazar 13 February 2021 08: 41
        +2
        Mitroha - You are right, and not only overweight, but also misalignment of IL112 as well hi
        1. Orkraider
          Orkraider 13 February 2021 14: 10
          +17
          Welcome

          For minusers, I remind the IL-112

          and not only overweight, but also misalignment in IL112 as well


          The one who does nothing is not mistaken ..
          And wins the one who finds the strength to continue, does not give up on failures, and with clenched teeth brings the matter to the end. And eliminates mistakes.

          In fact.

          Officially shown IL-112V, modified to reduce weight with running engines.


          By the way, it is shown in the final livery - in the colors of the Russian Aerospace Forces, it is in this form that the sides will be transferred to the customer.


          What is done:
          On this board, by means of modifications, the mass of the aircraft was reduced by 870 kg. For this, some elements of the aircraft have been replaced, the results of strength calculations have been completed, and the weight has been reduced without compromising the reliability of the components.


          The fairings of the chassis niches have been replaced, previously they were made of metal, now of composite materials:


          Also, the wing fairing (fairing of the articulation point) is made of composite:



          What is being done:
          Another 1 kg will be removed on the next boards, which are already in production (I remind you that the one shown above is the first one to take off).
          Weight reduction will take place due to the new design of the wing fairing, flaps, elevators and rudders, landing gear flaps, brake flaps. Engine nacelles will be made of composites. All of the solutions listed have been calculated and rechecked, and I will say more, most have already been tested at TsAGI.

          It remains to lighten a hundred and a half kilograms, to accomplish the task of weight loss of 2 tons. Additionally, a gift is expected from UEC-Klimov on TV7-117ST, but I will not say in detail, there is no confirmation. The task of improvements will be completed, the new aircraft will be!
          1. alien308
            alien308 13 February 2021 15: 03
            +2
            With centering, how are things? It is not only necessary to reduce weight. The news is great, of course.
            1. Orkraider
              Orkraider 13 February 2021 17: 02
              +9
              Welcome.
              hi
              Quote: alien308
              With centering, how are things? It is not only necessary to reduce weight. The news is great, of course.

              I will voice rumors. The solution has been found and it is being implemented, the main problem today is weight. Therefore, we did not stop only at the new ramp with cargo hatch flaps (this is one of the parts of your question) and chassis fairings, but climbed deeper:
              new design of wing fairing, flaps, elevators and rudders

              And most likely they will not stop there, the project is being reworked very much.
              Noticed that it was blown again? The purpose of the work is that modifications by weight do not lead to a deterioration in performance, so that there is a comparable level of aerodynamic characteristics as in the original, heavier one.
              We will see the result at the "three" and "four", unfortunately, this is not a quick process.

              In general, why am I writing this, to the fact that Ilyushin and Antonov have a similar problem, if you do not do something for a long time, competencies disappear and it is extremely difficult to restore them. It is possible, but difficult. This requires: money, money and more money. And Volya (I am writing with a capital letter for a reason), the political will of those who will defend the project and EXPLAIN that in order to have your own, you have to give birth to your own, you can only buy someone else's ..
              Antov has no time, no money anymore, and there is no will either, so it will be extremely problematic for him to rise from the ashes, he would even say that it is unlikely.
              1. alien308
                alien308 13 February 2021 19: 39
                +2
                Thank. Detailed response.
                It looks like a skinny enema with gramophone needles came to the place.
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                2. alien308
                  alien308 13 February 2021 20: 02
                  +1
                  Local robots are atrocities. The words in the comments are replaced with strange ones.
                3. Nazar
                  Nazar 16 February 2021 16: 30
                  0
                  Orkraider - Quote: "The task of improvements will be completed, the new aircraft will be!"
                  Yes, I am with four hands - FOR! Will finalize of course - where will they go. How many can be mass-produced per year - that is the question, if so. as with the modernized IL76, God forbid, there is only one "firm" - IL, that is not a program, then a failure.
          2. Igor Gul
            Igor Gul 14 February 2021 20: 54
            0
            He's fat, he looks like a carlson ...)
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 13 February 2021 13: 12
        +2
        it is necessary to rejoice - noticed - showed a civic position .. it is always more difficult to teach. what to learn. even on their mistakes - (they are minusizers, they are trained ... and not vindictive ... and ungrateful)
      3. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 13 February 2021 15: 30
        0
        But everything is fine on the computer.
      4. krops777
        krops777 14 February 2021 04: 17
        0
        For minusers, I remind you of the IL-112, in the same way it was drawn in the program by inexperienced designers, the result is overweight. In this sense, I was ironic


        Who told you such nonsense? When the glider was designed with computer programs of this level and did not smell, the IL-112 is a shortened version of the Soviet IL-114, I fully admit that when the airframe was shortened, a misalignment occurred, this happened more than once, and they always fought with excess weight on new aircraft, I don't remember now at which aircraft plant, but in my opinion Ilyushin wrote out a bonus for reducing the weight of the aircraft by 1 kg.
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 13 February 2021 07: 21
    +14
    "Antonov" diplomat didn’t bring money to the state aviation service of ukraine? Let their "letaki" sit on the ground, and everyone! am
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 13 February 2021 08: 15
      +10
      This is already becoming a national tradition - a remorse turning into zrada .. yes
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 13 February 2021 09: 53
        +5
        Brakodels. This speaks to the state of the industry as a whole. The same D-18 series 3 are defective.
        ... In March 2020, the State Aviation Service of Ukraine (GASU) ordered to check the disks of the intermediate pressure compressor of the second stage D-18T series 3. Operators of the An-124 Ruslan heavy transport aircraft had to check the engines after an uncontrolled failure of the power plant. According to the head of the Federal Air Transport Agency Alexander Neradko, this incident revealed a manufacturing defect in the D-18T engine. The engine is made according to a three-shaft scheme with an axial fifteen-stage compressor, an intermediate casing, an annular combustion chamber, a reversing device in the external circuit and separate unregulated outlet nozzles of the external and internal circuits. The engine is designed according to the modular assembly principle. The investigation began after the failure before the destruction of the second stage disk in the intermediate pressure compressor of the D-18T series 3 engine. Where and when the incident occurred is unknown. The directive instructed to conduct a one-time inspection of disks in all D-18T series 3 power plants for all An-124 operators.

        Content source: https://naukatehnika.com/defekt-d-18t.html
        naukatehnika.com
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 February 2021 10: 35
      +3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      "Antonov" diplomat did not bring money to the state aviation service of Ukraine?

      And there is no money for the "skid" and for the construction of "letak", and even more the components that were once made by the whole country. Letaki will stand on the ground, but Ukraine will pretend that it is one of the countries "building letaki".
      Now the truth is, some will try to prove otherwise but you can never make the incredible out of the obvious.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 13 February 2021 19: 28
        +3
        You can now look for shortcomings and defeats, but if you look ahead, then Kharkiv province will be part of Novorossiya, and Novorossia itself will either be autonomy within the Russian Federation (but not immediately!), Or a federal republic (with a Slobozhansk environment) - when is it still will be?, but the protectorate of Russia, the East of Ukraine will have to endure for a long time ...
        So the aviation industry of Slobozhanshchina has yet to get back on its feet (of course, without Russia this process is impossible by definition (the previous 30 years it was presented to the whole world very revealingly!), But this process is NOT 5-10 years - Ukraine and Banderism with nationalism will have to burn out with a hot iron for a long, long time.
        That is, to carry out the same process that Khrushch did not allow Stalin to finish, returning all the Bandera swine from the camps to their homeland.
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 13 February 2021 21: 55
          +1
          Quote: hydrox
          You can now look for shortcomings and defeats, but if you look ahead, then Kharkov province will be part of Novorossia, and Novorossia itself will be either autonomy within the Russian Federation (but not immediately!), Or a federal republic (with a Slobozhansky environment).
          Only a return to Russia in individual provinces - without any privileges (which of the residents of Novorossia - does not consider himself Russian - return to Ukraine).
    3. frruc
      frruc 13 February 2021 12: 35
      +3
      Two newest Ukrainian aircraft were banned from flying

      Naturally, there is the ubiquitous Boeing.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 February 2021 07: 33
    +7
    The decision was made due to the fact that these aircraft did not have a certificate of airworthiness for two years ... In addition to them, about 50 aircraft and helicopters were included in the list, which are also prohibited from flying for various reasons.
    When there is complete confusion and vacillation, it is not surprising that there are no certificates. They hoped that maybe they would carry it through this confusion, but it did not. By and large, we have absolutely nothing to do with this, we cannot fly on these planes and our head does not hurt.
    From our side, additional economic sanctions are finally being introduced against a number of Ukrainian companies, and this probably should not stop there.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 February 2021 11: 01
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      From our side, additional economic sanctions are finally being introduced against a number of Ukrainian companies, and this probably should not stop there.

      I remember Kuchma's words - "Ukraine, this is not Russia," and this was said by the former head of Yuzhmash. Well, how could he not know that everything was built in the Ukrainian SSR, it was focused more on the RSFSR, only together Ukraine and Russia could produce planes, ships, engines, and much more, only together these two countries, albeit separated, but could exist without economic shocks. Ukraine has chosen the dead-end path itself, which it has chosen, without the coercion of the West. The West got what it wanted for free.
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 13 February 2021 13: 16
        0
        Ukraine has chosen the dead-end path itself, which it has chosen,

        - IT LEFT TO CARRY OUT OUR SANCTIONS TO THE LOGICAL COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT OF THE DISTRICT - DESTRUCTION OF THAT STATE AND INCLUSION IN THE COMPOSITION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION ON THE RIGHTS OF THREE FED DISTRICTS (MAYBE AND 2 DISTRICTS)
  4. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 13 February 2021 07: 38
    +3
    A pig is not a bird; it cannot fly.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 February 2021 10: 42
      -2
      Quote: From Tomsk
      A pig is not a bird; it cannot fly.

      As we used to say in the village, “you can't lift it, don't squirm, otherwise you'll get a hernia, or the intestines will come out of your priests”.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 February 2021 17: 45
      +1
      Quote: From Tomsk
      A pig is not a bird; it cannot fly.

      Yes, you sho, did you give out the hovering pigs? And you pour three liters of vodka into a trough, he will show you aerobatics through the fence into a muddy puddle !!! wassat drinks am
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 14 February 2021 01: 17
        +1
        Pig is a proud bird, until you kick it properly, it won't fly. wassat
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  6. Coconut
    Coconut 13 February 2021 07: 49
    +2
    Born to crawl ... can't fly winked
  7. Guru
    Guru 13 February 2021 07: 54
    +6
    I look at the photo in the article and think, "Well, how could Hopak not help" laughing
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 February 2021 08: 09
      +7
      Quote: Guru
      I look at the photo in the article and think, "Well, how could Hopak not help"

      the dancer demonstrates excellent flying qualities !!
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 February 2021 10: 45
      +3
      Quote: Guru
      "Well, how could Hopak not help"

      The girls are running around the hut, the guys are dancing the hopak, and there is no shisha in the barn.
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 February 2021 08: 17
    +2
    At least there is something to congratulate the Banderlog with. A really big event, the world famous Antonov was forbidden to lift planes into the air. wassat So the dumbbells brought the country.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 February 2021 10: 47
      +2
      Quote: Ros 56
      So the dumbbells brought the country.

      And the West helped them "all over the world".
  9. faiver
    faiver 13 February 2021 08: 19
    +1
    The State Aviation Service of Ukraine has banned the flights of the two newest Ukrainian aircraft An-132D and An-178
    - wonderful are your deeds, Lord
  10. indeec
    indeec 13 February 2021 08: 38
    +3
    So what's wrong, they banned flights to two experimental aircraft. An-132D was made in 16 and no one bought it - that's it. How many prototypes of aircraft are there at enterprises that produce aircraft, do chtoli for all the certificates of airworthiness on them ...
    1. Guru
      Guru 13 February 2021 09: 39
      +3
      indeec (Sergey)
      So what's wrong, they banned flights to two experimental aircraft. An-132D was made in 16 and no one bought it - that's it. How many prototypes of aircraft are there at enterprises that produce aircraft, to make chtoli for all airworthiness certificates ..
      Read the article carefully.
      In addition to them, the list includes about 50 aircraft and helicopters, which are also prohibited from flying for various reasons.
  11. Vitas
    Vitas 13 February 2021 08: 45
    +2
    Why get a certificate if there are no buyers. And if you tell the truth, there is no production.
  12. Maximilian37
    Maximilian37 13 February 2021 09: 04
    +3
    I said in 2010, sitting in a village near Kiev with a glass of tea, that Ukrainians have the ambitions of the USSR, but there is no country that helped them.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 February 2021 10: 50
      +2
      Quote: Maximilian37
      but there is no longer that country that helped them.

      И which would now helped them. And this is not Russia's fault.
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 13 February 2021 11: 02
      +2
      How so, and all the world? request This is wow, what a country. lol
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 February 2021 14: 34
        +1
        Quote: Ros 56
        How so, and all the world? This is wow, what a country.

        Thinking is not harmful, but "in all peace" he only thinks how to pinch off a piece from the outskirts, for his beloved.
  13. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 13 February 2021 09: 09
    +2
    Why does Ukraine need aviation? They need oxen! This is so triple!))
  14. sergo1914
    sergo1914 13 February 2021 09: 49
    +5
    Fenders can be sawed off to engines and used as a bus.
    PS Don't thank.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 13 February 2021 11: 04
      +2
      And what, good advice. lol
  15. askort154
    askort154 13 February 2021 09: 50
    +5
    An-132D is a modification of the Soviet An-32, developed for Saudi Arabia using Western components instead of Russian ones. It was first shown in December 2016. It was called Ukraine's "breakthrough" into the world aviation market, but the Saudis tore up the contract.

    They threw the Saudis, threw the UAE, threw the Azerbaijanis to supply them with An-178:
    signed an agreement with the UAE for the supply of An-178 to them in the amount of 4 billion dl .... The entire Ukrainian press shouted about "zrada". But in reality it turned out that the contract was not fulfilled.
    Azeibarjan paid an advance payment of 3 billion dollars for the delivery of An-178 to him. Contract - not fulfilled, advance payment was not returned.
    2016 to 2021 Ukraine has not produced a single aircraft - "An". Until 1991, it produced 60-70 aircraft per year.
    1. bobba94
      bobba94 13 February 2021 13: 09
      +2
      I liked the story of the sale of An-74 to Kazakhstan. The contract was signed in 2014, Kazakhstan made an advance payment of 15,2 million dollars, the plane was not made, Kazakhstan filed a lawsuit in 2016 with the Kharkiv Economic Court. The bottom line. The Kharkiv Economic Court rejected its decision in the claim, not a word about the advance payment of 15,2 million dollars in the court's decision. At the beginning of 2021, nothing has changed, there is no plane, no one has returned the advance payment of $ 15,2 million.
  16. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 13 February 2021 10: 38
    +2
    MO Banderland has not ordered anything yet))) there is a kind of semi-official agreement that the bank will issue a loan for the construction of these yaroplanes. So far, there is only one in the building, for Peru. Moreover, the replacement of Russian components takes shocking dimensions there)))) an American winch for moving goods in the cabin is 29 times more expensive than a Russian one !!!!! A little more and it will be more expensive than C - 5)))
  17. BAI
    BAI 13 February 2021 11: 01
    +1
    The aircraft was designed without using design documentation.

    The author himself understands what he wrote? If design is in progress, design documentation is obtained automatically. Roughly speaking, any document executed during the design is a project documentation.
    1. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 13 February 2021 12: 11
      -1
      Quote: BAI
      The aircraft was designed without using design documentation.


      Does the author himself understand what he wrote?
      as one of the TV presenters would say: “I don’t think so!” ... shaking her head negatively. wink
      The aircraft was designed without using design documentation.
      as a type of the beginning of the construction of a large landing complex at Yantar ? !!.
      A year later, they remembered that the ships had been laid, without ... ? !! type according to the draft design ? !!
    2. Alexandes
      Alexandes 13 February 2021 16: 47
      -1
      So why should the propagandists know about anything? The main thing is to open your mouth in time, and hold the pen firmly.
  18. Boris Nevzorov
    Boris Nevzorov 13 February 2021 11: 59
    +2
    Zelensky, what about the situation with the Ukrainian super-submarine in Ukraine?
    I heard that your scientists have successfully solved the immersion problem. There is only one small thing left: to solve the problem of surfacing.
    And the tanks "Dung" and "Oblom" are already the fifth generation, or the sixth?
    How are things with the "Shame" armored personnel carrier?
  19. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 February 2021 12: 13
    +2
    Nothing, soon hydrogen energy. Let them fly on cylinders. laughing
  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 February 2021 12: 15
    +2
    Axis yaks meaners tsei Muscovites!

    Ukrainians - reference pilots. Garno fly, or low-low .. laughing
  21. monster
    monster 13 February 2021 12: 33
    +1
    Ganba and Zrada, two deities, continue to joke and burn over the proto-Sumerians)))
  22. monster
    monster 13 February 2021 12: 36
    +2
    Quote: LIONnvrsk
    This is already becoming a national tradition - a remorse turning into zrada .. yes

    The Wheel of Genothy knows no fatigue or mercy)
  23. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 13 February 2021 15: 27
    +1
    And the trousers ..., no words, only letters remained. And those acquaintances.
  24. Alexandes
    Alexandes 13 February 2021 16: 46
    -2
    Everything is bad, but the neighbor's cow is dead-tired - joy.

    What about the fact that, on the other hand, quilted jackets and wide trousers do not change. As well as the brain is not added.
  25. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 13 February 2021 17: 00
    +1
    ***
    I marvel at the thought of that thought:
    What did I not drink, what did I not pour? ...
    ***