"Our position has not changed": the United States threatens to impose sanctions for the completion of Nord Stream 2

The United States will impose sanctions against Russia in its attempts to complete the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, Washington's position on this issue has not changed. This was stated by the official representative of the US State Department Ned Price.

Speaking at the briefing, Price said that the United States will continue to monitor Russia's attempts to complete the construction of the gas pipeline and certify it, and if such attempts are detected, it will decide to impose sanctions.

Our position on Nord Stream 2 is very clear and has not undergone any changes. President (Joe) Biden made it clear that Nord Stream 2 was a bad deal. This is a bad deal because it divides Europe, exposes Ukraine and Central Europe to Russian manipulation, contradicts Europe's stated energy security goals

- give the media part of the speech of the representative of the State Department.

Price stressed that the United States has other "important tools" at its disposal besides sanctions, with the help of which Washington can put pressure on Moscow and stop the construction of the pipeline.

Earlier, Germany began negotiations with the United States on lifting sanctions from Nord Stream 2, they are being held behind closed doors, without informing the press about their progress. Against this background, members of the US Senate sent a letter to Joe Biden demanding to impose sanctions on companies trying to complete the pipeline.

The US-German relationship is the cornerstone of the transatlantic alliance ... but allowing Nord Stream 2 to complete does not imply a constructive path to that partnership

- the letter says.

Meanwhile, the laying of the pipeline in Danish waters has been suspended due to weather conditions and will resume next week. According to German media reports, Russia intends to complete the construction of the gas pipeline despite threats from the United States.

Comments

[Hunter 2]

The course of negotiations between the Germans and the mattress covers is interesting. Well, the gas pipeline will definitely be completed.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Hunter 2

Well, the gas pipeline will definitely be completed.

here in general do not care. what to us with it?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Aerodrome

what do we do with him?

If anything, the losses from the budget will be compensated ... i.e. from us.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: mat-vey

Quote: Aerodrome

what do we do with him?

If anything, the losses from the budget will be compensated ... i.e. from us.

this is yes ...

[Hunter 2]

Should he (the gas pipeline) work for you? And if you think a little with your head? Where does the money come from to fill the budget?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Hunter 2

Where does the money come from to fill the budget?

Everything is "taken" and always "taken" from (from) productive labor ...

[Hunter 2]

Quote: mat-vey

Everything is "taken" and always "taken" from (from) productive labor ...

export duties on gas - USD 25/1000 m3. How does this relate to productive labor?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Hunter 2

export duties on gas - USD 25/1000 m3. How does this relate to productive labor?

Where did the gas come from? Does Miller personally generate? How many losses did Gazprom have?

[Hunter 2]

Quote: mat-vey

Where did the gas come from? Does Miller personally generate? How many losses did Gazprom have?

Let's still share flies with cutlets? I answered a specific question, how the sale of gas fills the export budget, plus taxes.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Hunter 2

I answered a specific question, how the sale of gas fills the export budget, plus taxes.

Then again - where did the gas for sale come from? To sell something, it must be done, extracted, explored, built infrastructure, etc., etc.

How can losses "fill" the budget?

Quote: mat-vey

If anything, the losses from the budget will be compensated ... i.e. from us.

And before that, at the expense of the budget, it means they did not compensate with billions? And then there is no money for hospitals, teachers "fight" ... pensioners "get into the situation.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Volder

Quote: mat-vey

To sell something, you have to do it, mine, explore, build infrastructure, etc., etc.

How can losses "fill" the budget?

??????? .... ?????

[Volder]

Quote: mat-vey

To sell something, you have to do it, mine, explore, build infrastructure, etc., etc.
How can losses "fill" the budget?

It looks like you have no idea how the business functions. All losses, i.e. capital costs, investments are covered by further profits from the production / extraction and sale of the product / service. Taxes are paid on income to the budget.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Volder

It looks like you have no idea how the business works.

"The Russian government will allocate 2 billion rubles to support the GAZ group of billionaire Oleg Deripaska who has come under the sanctions."

[Volder]

Quote: mat-vey

"The Russian government will allocate 2 billion rubles to support the GAZ group of billionaire Oleg Deripaska who has come under the sanctions."

Political sanctions are force majeure circumstances not covered by the business plan. Where does the government get the money? From taxes paid by Deripaska's company. That is, money is earned by business in any case. Some business is successful, some less successful. How to dispose of tax revenues to the budget is decided by the Government and the Ministry of Finance. We can say that by helping Deripaska, the government is investing in the country's extractive industry.

[fif21]

Quote: Hunter 2

I answered a specific question, how the sale of gas fills the export budget, plus taxes.

Doesn't the sale of gas on the Russian domestic market fill the budget? And Russia is still being heated with fuel oil, coal and wood! You say that this is currency !!! But are budget expenditures in our currency? Currency is needed by a thief who keeps it offshore and in Swiss banks. Hence the cries that there is nothing without currency, but in essence - buying currency, this is support for foreign economies. The comfortable life of the USA and Europe at someone else's expense.

[Hunter 2]

I support the decision on the Complete Gasification of Russia.
Now let's talk about export, in addition to export, there is also import:
mechanical equipment - $ 43,6 billion;
electrical equipment - $ 29,9 billion;
passenger cars - $ 7,3 billion;
trucks - $ 2,0 billion.
parts and accessories of motor vehicles - $ 9,0 billion.
plastics and products from them - $ 9,8 billion;
medicines - $ 8,1 billion;
perfumery and cosmetics - $ 3,3 billion;
tires and tires - $ 1,9 billion;
plant protection products - $ 0,9 billion;
rubbers - $ 0,4 billion.
fresh and frozen fish - $ 1,27 billion;
citrus fruits - $ 1,23 billion;
bananas - $ 1,15 billion;
soybeans - $ 0,99 billion;
cheeses and cottage cheese - $ 0,96 billion;
palm oil - $ 0,75 billion;
apples - $ 0,72 billion
coffee - $ 0,59 billion;
tea - $ 0,50 billion;
I found the data only for 2018, so the foreign exchange earnings are still needed by the State.

[fif21]

!. Import substitution - there is work to do. 2. Do you really think that the state buys it? This is acquired by business JSC, LLC, retail chains, pharmacies ... because in Russia it is either produced in small volumes or not produced at all! The state needs currency for the foreign policy activities of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the FSB (intelligence), the GRU and the creation of gold reserves. 3. We export more than we import (trade surplus)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: fif21

And Russia is still being heated with fuel oil, coal and firewood

It all depends on the governor. Ours, as it were, did not really respect him, but the region was gasified and for a very long time

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

Where did the gas come from? Does Miller personally generate? How many losses did Gazprom have?

How much can you repeat ...?

Earlier it was reported that the state corporation "Rosneftegaz" in March 2013. acquired a 0,23% stake in Gazprom. Thus, the state has completed a long-term process of formalizing its stake in Gazprom to a controlling one.

Prior to that, the state's share in Gazprom was directly 49,775%. Thus, through Rosimushchestvo, the Russian Federation owns 38,373% of Gazprom's shares, and through Rosneftegaz - 10,74%. Another 0,889% of Gazprom's shares are owned by Rosgazifikatsiya. However, the state's share in Rosgazification is 74,55%, that is, the state owns only 0,662% of Gazprom's shares directly through Rosgazification.

Taking into account the 0,23% acquired by Rosneftegaz, from the state

Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/economics/01/04/2013/570405e29a7947fcbd447551

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

How much can you repeat ...?

That everything will go from the budget anyway? What did you want to say?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

Quote: Lipchanin

How much can you repeat ...?

That everything will go from the budget anyway? What did you want to say?

That most of the income will go to the budget.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

That most of the income will go to the budget.

Most of it will go to shareholders ... and salaries for very valuable managers.
Do you remember the beginning of the branch?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

Most of it will go to shareholders.

Madam ...

Thus, the state has completed a long-term process of formalizing its stake in Gazprom to a controlling one.

Shareholders and managers will receive a LESS share of the shares

[mat-vey]

Quote: mat-vey

Do you remember the beginning of the branch?

Who pays the losses?
What is Skolkov's profit, who paid for the losses?

[Lipchanin]

In the garden there is an elderberry, and in the kuevo there is an uncle ...
And SP-2 here from what side?

[mat-vey]

On the economic side, will it pay off at all?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

On the economic side, will it pay off at all?

No, we didn't calculate anything and we drive ourselves at a loss in spite of the winners
Do you count everyone who is associated with this project with round c.r.tins who, despite all the sanctions, continue to build it?
Why are we building it then?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

Do you count everyone who is associated with this project with round c.r.tins who, despite all the sanctions, continue to build it?

Well, negotiations with the Arabs on oil do not rule out this ..

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

Well, negotiations with the Arabs on oil do not rule out this ..

Remind the title of the article and the topic of conversation?
Or have you been taught that when there is nothing to say, to divert the conversation aside? Where are the Arabs and where is the SP-2?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

Where are the Arabs and where is the SP-2?

Quote: mat-vey

Quote: Lipchanin

Do you count everyone who is associated with this project with round c.r.tins who, despite all the sanctions, continue to build it?

Well, negotiations with the Arabs on oil do not rule out this ..

Was there anything about thinking here? Or is it not the Ministry of Energy that controls oil and gas in our country? You yourself wrote about some shares of the state.

[Lipchanin]

You do not rave?
What question did I ask?

Where are the Arabs and where is the SP-2?

And your answer

Was there anything about thinking here? Or is it not the Ministry of Energy that controls oil and gas in our country? You yourself wrote about some shares of the state.

Do you think this is the answer to my question?
You can not answer.
I'm already tired of your jumps from the topic about SP-2
With that, adieu

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

What question did I ask?

Did you ask one question?

Quote: Lipchanin

Do you count everyone who is associated with this project with round c.r.tins who, despite all the sanctions, continue to build it?

It's your?

[fa2998]

Income is generated if you subtract the cost from the proceeds. The cost includes Miller's salaries and the like, quarterly and annual bonuses-many billions. They do not offend themselves.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: fa2998

Income is generated if you subtract the cost from the proceeds. The cost includes Miller's salaries and the like, quarterly and annual bonuses-many billions. They do not offend themselves.

So they receive their salary from the share of income that is due to them.
And this is less than half, most of which goes to the state's income
With their part, let them do what they want and what the shareholders will allow them

[Profiler]

Well, and finally, after a long stagnation, we began to impose new sanctions against Ukraine, so protected by Washington.

The list of enterprises and institutions, by the decision of the government, was expanded by 9 points, and thus reaching the number 84.

If from the moment of the coup in Ukraine, our sanctions would cover up to 40-70% of the enterprises of the non-brotherly country, the problem of "Ukraine" would have been forgotten long ago ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

Everything is "taken" and always "taken" from (from) productive labor ...

Yeah?
Is it okay that in the USSR the lion's share of the budget was replenished from the income from the sale of alcohol and tobacco?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

Is it okay that in the USSR the lion's share of the budget was replenished from the income from the sale of alcohol and tobacco?

It was a redistribution in one pocket.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

It was a redistribution in one pocket.

Isn’t it right now?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

Isn’t it right now?

in fact of the matter ..

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

in fact of the matter ..

In what
Has the budget ceased to be a pocket?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

In what
Has the budget ceased to be a pocket?

you catch the difference between socialism and capitalism?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

you catch the difference between socialism and capitalism?

RJUNIMAGU
And how are budgets different?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

And how are budgets different?

And under capitalism, spending and profit, for example, Norilsk Nickel are budget expenditures?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

And under capitalism, spending and profit, for example, Norilsk Nickel are budget expenditures?

So we are talking about the budget, or what is the money spent on it?
What under capitalism, what under socialism, the state budget is the state budget

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

So we are talking about the budget, or what is the money spent on it?

So tell us how under socialism the budget covered the losses of the owners of private enterprises?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

So tell us how under socialism the budget covered the losses of the owners of private enterprises?

Well no need to jump
We talked about the filling of the budget, not about its distribution.
No need to divert the conversation from the topic

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

We talked about budget filling

Under socialism, the budget was filled by the state plan. All proceeds and all expenses are expenses of the state. Playing with the prices of goods was a simple redistribution of funds in one pocket.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: mat-vey

Under socialism, the budget was filled by the state plan.

Who cares where the money comes from

.All proceeds and all expenses are expenses of the state.

Who spends now?
And again you try to take the conversation away
Where will the income from the sale of gas through SP-2 go?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

Where will the income from the sale of gas through SP-2 go?

Where will the losses go, to raise prices on the domestic market?

Quote: Lipchanin

Who cares where the money comes from

Really, none of either the Ministry of Trade, or the tax? Oh, yes, then there was no tax.

[Lipchanin]

Indeed, none of either the Ministry of Trade or the tax authorities?

I answer for the last time
Does your family care from what source the money you bring home?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lipchanin

Does your family care from what source the money you bring home?

The family is definitely not - a criminal is not welcomed.
And about the Ministry of Trade and the tax issue was not just that - under socialism and capitalism, money has slightly different roles ...
And if you are so one-sided about the prices of vodka, then the state redistributed the increased price of vodka, as a monopolist of both trade and production, thus lowering its own spending by reducing prices for other goods, for example, for children.

[Putnik119]

Dear, where did the crest get the head? He has had a saucepan instead of a head for a long time.

[Svarog]

Quote: Hunter 2

Should he (the gas pipeline) work for you?

He must work for everyone, both for you and for me .. this is our natural heritage .. so why are we such beggars, and they do not know from what precious metal a brush to install?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Svarog

we are so poor

"We" isn't it too immodest to talk about ourselves?

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Hunter 2

Where does the money come from to fill the budget?

Remind the story of nornickel? When the state lent money to Potanin. Just like that. Then, the same money, I borrowed from him. But not just like that, but on the security of shares. And naturally this debt was not returned. Potanin paid off his debt to the state from the very first dividends. For the shares were valued 25-30 times lower than their real value. Just in the area of ​​the amount that was charged on them in the form of annual income. Nornickel's net profit for 2019 is $ 6 billion, approximately 3-4 streams will bring. If you put potanin a little. With a small but complete confiscation of property, the budget will be replenished in an amount greater than all the flows bring at once. Not? No way? Butting the Yankees is easy, but to plant a thief is no way? So ... Let's not la-la about budgets and other garbage. If our guarantor were interested in all these nonsense ... And without the flows, the budget would have grown by a quarter, at least.

[Hunter 2]

Why are there so many letters? Are you specific on what you want? Not to build a gas pipeline? Just answer the question.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Hunter 2

Are you specific on what you want?

Specifically? I want the budget to receive a funding source that exceeds the same pipeline by 4-5 times, and does not depend on the presence / absence of sanctions. Terribly unpatriotic desire inspired by the State Department. True?

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Specifically? I want the budget to receive a funding source that exceeds the same pipeline by 4-5 times, and does not depend on the presence / absence of sanctions. Terribly unpatriotic desire inspired by the State Department. True?

Is Russian not a native language for you? I specifically asked about the gas pipeline. And here you are pushing slogans ...

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Hunter 2

I specifically asked about the gas pipeline.

And I answered you specifically. punish the thieves. Recover stolen from the state. The income received from this property ... Will allow spitting on a possible surplus from the flow in particular, and Gazprom in general. And to treat the situation in the highest degree devil-may-care. Will it be completed? Okay. Will it not be completed? And to hell with you. To finalize contracts through Ukraine, and there, at least use American liquefied gas, or even coal, or even load your euros into the furnace.
Has she explained it clearly? And all that is necessary, for such a mega-complex decision, it is stupid to follow the laws of the Russian Federation. On which the thief must sit, and the stolen must be returned to the victim. And nothing more. Just obey the laws.

[Hunter 2]

Can you read? Are you jammed or what? I asked a question ... About the GAS PIPELINE, do you want to be completed or Not? Take the trouble from the Third time to understand that you are being asked!

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Hunter 2

do you want to be completed or not?

Not. I do not want. And I don’t want to be pumped through Ukraine. And through Belarus too. And there is no need to stock up on oil. At least in such volumes. All this sale of the future of the country is arranged only in order to somehow compensate for the losses from the fact that the people of the okoloputins plundered state property. And oil and gas are finite. Don't believe me? Well, ask the Romanians. Which have already sagged 4.3 times compared to peak production. And now to sell what we ourselves will lack, after some years ... And only for the thief to measure the length of the yachts ... This is the most natural crime. So it comes?

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Not. I do not want.

Well, here is finally the answer. Does it bother you that Surprisingly, your position on the gas pipeline coincides with Matrasnaya? And all your statements (for all good versus all bad) are just cheap Sally! You are not interesting to me, you are free.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Hunter 2

Surprisingly, your position on the gas pipeline coincides with Matrasnaya?

Doesn't it bother you that your position on the fact that Russia should be a raw material appendage, exchanging resources for beads and mirrors is a complete copy from the position of the State Department? And only disagree on how much you need to sell. At 300 yards, say, or 290.
Don't make yourself a saint, an adherent of the colonial system in Russia.
PS
By the way. You have not been able to explain why Russia needs this flow at all? Why is it impossible to reduce the sale of oil and gas, but to compensate for the losses by returning the stolen goods to the country.

[Vadim237]

"This whole sale of the future of the country is arranged only in order to at least somehow compensate for the losses from the fact that gentlemen near Putin have plundered state property." Yes, yes, yes - of everything that is mined and produced in Russia, an average of 30% is exported, everything else is consumed within the country.
"Don't make yourself a saint, an adherent of the colonial system in Russia.
PS "There is no colonial system - Russia has been in the world market economy for a long time and produces and sells everything and in the quantities that they buy from us - money won't take out of thin air.
By the way. You have not been able to explain why Russia needs this flow at all? To increase government revenues and in the future to abandon the Ukrainian GTS so that no longer pay for transit in the future under JV 2, Russia will supply hydrogen mixed with natural gas - according to plans, the production of hydrogen in Russia by 2035 should amount to 2 million tons per year as nor as a new branch of production to replace the coal one which is already being blown away.

[Clear]

Quote: Vadim237

By the way. You have not been able to explain why Russia needs this flow at all?

Everything can be explained, provided that everyone understands what the real form is government in Russia?
I, personally, am lost. Or republic, or monarchy?
Then further it will be possible to explain and state structure и political regime, and, accordingly, the expediency of Russia's foreign trade policy ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Hunter 2

And here you are pushing slogans ...

So it is written in the manual

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Lannan Shi

If our guarantor were interested in all these nonsense ... And without the flows, the budget would have grown by a quarter, at least.

Our guarantor is generally a candidate of economic sciences, he knows what he is doing.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Mordvin 3

he knows what he is doing.

And most importantly, he knows for whom he does.

[Volder]

Quote: Lannan Shi

For the shares were priced 25-30 times lower than their real value. If you put potanin a little.

Potanin does not personally evaluate the shares. Do you know anything about the functioning of the stock market?

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Volder

Do you know anything about the functioning of the stock market?

I know. So on that very market, those same shares, immediately after their transfer, were worth more than 40 billion. And how the situation with the change in ownership cleared up, and exceeded 60 billion. And they were laid for 1.8 or 1.9. For 3% of the stock market. Article of the Criminal Code. In a clean and uncomplicated form.

[Volder]

Quote: Lannan Shi

And they were laid for 1.8 or 1.9. For 3% of the stock market. Article of the Criminal Code.

Well, what is the article number of the Criminal Code? Who is to blame, in your opinion? You offered to put Potanin in jail, although traders and brokers are engaged in shares. The value of the company has increased because the owner has changed. Decides the market influenced by company news, not a specific person with a snap of his fingers.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Volder

Well, what is the article number of the Criminal Code?

159 part 4.

Quote: Volder

Who is to blame, in your opinion?

The then president of the Russian Federation, the government of the Russian Federation, if not in full force, then the economic bloc for sure, officials of a lower rank who participated in the process, the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation, the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation. And of course buyers.

Quote: Volder

You offered to put Potanin in prison, although traders are engaged in shares

So what is next? Anyone has the right to steal everything that does not fall under his professional activity? Funny logic.

Quote: Volder

The value of the company has increased because the owner has changed.

Laponka. Nornickel's value was normal anyway. Then he gave profit in the region of 1.5 billion dollars, but was sold for 0,5 billion for a third of the annual profit. True, a 51% stake was sold, but even so ... The sale price of shares in December is less than the amount of dividends accrued on them after 1,5 months. A very good deal for the budget, isn't it? To sell for 500 million what in 1.5 months will bring 750 million. And really ... Where is the crime?

Quote: Volder

Decides the market

On which the state stake did not get. And it was put up for auction, with access "purely for their own". And if the state block of shares went to the market .... The profitability of nornickel in 2020 is 3.6 billion. The market value of shares is 56 billion. With income, in 1995, 1.billion, the value of the state block of shares was approximately 10 billion.

[Volder]

Quote: Lannan Shi

The then president of the Russian Federation, the government of the Russian Federation, if not in full force, then the economic bloc for sure, officials of a lower rank who participated in the process, the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation, the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation. And of course buyers.

Following your logic, you need to plant them all! After all, they are all organized crime groups and fall under Art. 159 part 4 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

Anyone has the right to steal everything that does not fall under his professional activity?

Traders carry out legal activities, not thieves. This is their job in a market economy and capitalism. It is clear that this is not only about Russia.

At Norilsk Nickel, everything was normal with value. Then it gave profit in the region of $ 1.5 billion, but was sold for 0,5 billion.

For your information, the company's profit and the company's share price are two different things. The profit or even the profit may exceed the price given in the Stock Market for this company.

... was put up for auction, with purely friendly access.

There is a domestic, Russian stock market.

Where is the corpus delicti?

Only in your head.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Volder

There is a domestic, Russian stock market.

For those who have difficulty understanding Russian. Extremely short and clear. The shares did not get on any stock market. This time. They were put up for auction as collateral. These are two. Admission to participate in the auction was distributed in manual mode, especially close. These are three. The money for participation in the auction was allocated to commercial banks by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. Those. in fact, the state received from the auction exactly as much as it issued loans. It's four. The shares were redeemed for purely symbolic amounts. In the region of 5% of the real value. Sometimes even lower than the amount of dividends charged on them. It's five. Taking into account the fact that the auctions were held in December, and the accrual of dividends, and, accordingly, the repayment of the Central Bank loan is February, then all expenses for the acquisition of the same nornickel are interest for two months, in the amount of 5% of its real value. Simply put, it cost Potanin about 1% of the real cost. It's six.
So it comes? If not ... then medicine is powerless here. It's seven.

[Volder]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Shares did not enter any stock market. This time. They were put up for auction as collateral.

This is the domestic stock market. Only in the markets are there auctions.

Admission to participate in the auction was handed out in manual mode, especially close.

You certainly have proof of manual mode. Bring. Especially close - is it close to whom?

The money for participation in the auction was allocated to commercial banks by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. Those. in fact, the state received from the auction exactly as much as it issued loans.

One of the functions of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is to issue loans to banks. You probably think that the banks may not return the money received.

Shares were redeemed for purely symbolic amounts. In the region of 5% of the real value.

Who determines the real value of the shares? In the context of the current situation and the company's news, the so-called investors did not give a high price. You must understand that stocks can be undervalued or overvalued. In general, the market can be wrong for a long time. This is a natural process - a kind of side effect, from which there is no escape and no protection.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Hunter 2

Should he (the gas pipeline) work for you?

on the Millers of course ... and I say, do not care.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Aerodrome

here in general do not care. what to us with it?

Who exactly is "us"?

[seregatara1969]

Americans have a business approach, their wallet is closer to the body

[svp67]

Quote: Hunter 2

Well, the gas pipeline will definitely be completed.

The bottom line is that "Fortuna" every day changes its location on the map of the Baltic Sea, slowly, little by little, approaching the waters of Germany ...

This is a bad deal because it divides Europe, exposes Ukraine and Central Europe to Russian manipulation, contradicts Europe's stated energy security goals

Then it might be worth trying to explain that Ukraine and the countries of Central Europe simply DREAM to give up "Russian gas" and "Nord Stream-2" gives them this opportunity

[Thrifty]

When will our government stop being afraid of US sanctions, and learn to govern the country ignoring threats and the introduction of these very sanctions? ??

[Svarog]

Quote: Thrifty

When will our government stop being afraid of US sanctions, and learn to govern the country ignoring threats and the introduction of these very sanctions? ??

I'm afraid that this one is no longer able to .. the liberal economy does not work .. we need a planned one ..

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Svarog

need a planned ..

On a rake?
And what are you going to plan?

[Vadim237]

There was already a planned administrative command for five years with a crooked distribution and a constant deficit - there is no need to say how it ended. And there will be no more return to it.

[evgen1221]

Damn, yes they have there that, already every clerk and cleaner from the State Department chtoli letters of happiness with threats of sanctions writes to Europe?

[Svarog]

Quote: evgen1221

Damn, yes they have there that, already every clerk and cleaner from the State Department chtoli letters of happiness with threats of sanctions writes to Europe?

I’m curious about how they control everything .. they have imposed sanctions on half of the world .. a little more and they will impose themselves ..

[evgen1221]

Well, how and by what means, this is just not the most difficult question to understand. The question is how long the victims themselves will endure frank abuse of them. Without America, with its financial institutions in the modern global world, there are already opportunities to do 100% and still be in the black. That's what gets in the way and there is the million dollar question!

[tralflot1832]

Against whom will the sanctions be imposed?

[Ros 56]

Let them look for the owner in London, there all the owners wipe themselves out.

[tralflot1832]

Is it really Borka Johnson!

[Ros 56]

Everything is possible there.

[tralflot1832]

Merkel is retired, Nord Stream 2 will lead and we will find a vacancy for Borka (Freaky man, such an impression is always from a hangover!)

[Ros 56]

No, this grandmother is going to lead something in the EU.

[tralflot1832]

Then let him lead, look and be supervised, in the sense that in 5 years there will be nothing to lead! The vacancy is free for the "pipe"!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tralflot1832

(Freaky man, such an impression is always from a hangover!)

[Ros 56]

So Churchill finished a bottle of whiskey or brandy every day, and whoever forbids this. There is someone to take an example from.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ros 56

and who will forbid this.

If tagged from germany moves to small britain, there will be someone to ban

[Ros 56]

Who knows, who knows, this hellish spotted poop, he quietly thumps alone. Life in a foreign land, there is no wife, everything is foreign around, you will inevitably whine like a wolf, despite his income.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ros 56

Who knows, who knows, this hellish spotted poop, he quietly thumps alone.

I do not know about him personally, but after his "ban", as they booted up there, they did not stop

[Ros 56]

Yes, we somehow did not notice that incident much, but it became more difficult to buy. And they consumed no less, in short they solved the issue.

[Lipchanin]

This is yes.
Ticket entered

[Ros 56]

The most interesting thing, we sit with my wife and are surprised when there were coupons, butter for 200 g and we had enough, mine was constantly baking something, the benefit of the molds of all business trips, and nuts with cream, and Olympic bears, and different cookies and types cockerels on a stick of different figures, the sons loved this business. No matter what they said, there were no hungry people, there was always something to drink and eat. I was strained with Parmesan, and to hell with it.

[rotmistr60]

The United States will impose sanctions on Russia

So no one doubted this with us. When the Americans are promoting their interests by any means, including military conflicts, then one should not expect otherwise. Germany is still holding on with a creak, trying to somehow defend its interests. Time will tell what will happen next.

[sen]

Not only the US is torn to Europe with gas, but also Qatar
Qatar plans to increase production capacity by 43 percent. If now the emirate produces on average about 77 million tons of liquefied natural gas a year, then after expansion the figure will grow to 110 million. Part of the gas volumes produced after the implementation of the project has already been reserved for consumers from Europe, which is the main market for Russian raw materials. It is expected that the first gas under the megaproject will be produced in the fourth quarter of 2025. By 2027, Qatar plans to complete the expansion in full. By the same date, Qatar intends to increase LNG production to 126 million tons per year.
Last year, Qatar accounted for 26,5 percent of all liquefied natural gas supplies in the world. Australia came in second with a minimal margin (almost 26 percent), followed by the United States (14,7 percent). Russia came in fourth with less than 10 percent, according to Bloomberg data.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: sen

Not only the US is torn to Europe with gas, but also Qatar

And this will make liquefied gas cheaper than pipeline gas? I can't believe it.

[Brturin]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And this will make liquefied gas cheaper than pipeline gas?

Now it is not only necessary to obtain LNG, but also to do it environmentally, and this clearly does not make LNG cheaper. About the same Qatar ...
An important part of the project is the Carbon capture and storage (CCS) system associated with the massive CCS system in Ras Laffan, which will become the largest in the LNG industry when fully operational. All LNG producers in the world are currently concerned about the reduction of carbon dioxide emissions, incl. Russian NOVATEK. According to various estimates, the carbon footprint from the production chain of liquefaction and delivery of LNG to consumers is 2-4 times higher than the carbon footprint from pipeline gas, which forces LNG producers to actively prepare for the new requirements of key importers of energy resources seeking to obtain exclusively carbon-neutral fuels. https://neftegaz.ru/news/spg-szhizhennyy-prirodnyy-gaz/664322-katar-natselen-na-spg-liderstvo-prinyato-okonchatelnoe-investitsionnoe-reshenie-po-krupneyshemu-spg-/
For Asia, one thing, but in Europe, ecologists ...

[Shkworen]

for Qatar, the main sales market is Asia, where they pay for LNG three times more than in Europe :)
like the usa now, traders there now direct almost all free gas to asia :)
it's more interesting with Australia, they sell all LNG to China, but now they have an economic war with China, and China is thinking of abandoning Australian gas, but it is economically unprofitable to transport gas from Australia to Europe, and there is still uncertainty about this :)

so Europe, although a promising market for LNG, is not as tasty as Asia :)
and in any case, LNG will never become cheaper than pipeline gas :)

[Ros 56]

The striped dogs bark as the caravan pipeline is coming to an end. Analogy.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Well, this is the EU Lavrov swaying the pipe.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Wofur sind wir?

[businessv]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Wofur sind wir?

Wofür genau sind wir, Kollege?

[Gennady Fomkin]

The real situation is similar to the relations between the EU and the Russian Federation.

Small town. Service center.

Foreign curators lowered the paper where they tightened the requirements to the limit, and left the payment for the work the same. But they tied her to the implementation of new wishes.

The director of the SC thought, thought, and sent them to the aphedron with a contract and requirements.

The town is small, but there are large network monsters. And they asked the question at the top: what kind of TVM do you create?

Now, on the air, imported people persuade the directors that they want to return everything in the ass and raise the payment. They were confident in an alternative to this SC. And she, as it turned out, is not.

And the director already liked working without these requirements. And you can't earn all the money ...

[businessv]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

And the director already liked working without these requirements. And you can't earn all the money ...

Colleague, could you not do

extra

line spacing

intervals? It is inconvenient to read, as if several posts were collected in one for several hours, although the posts are interesting.

[fa2998]

Quote: Ros 56

The striped dogs bark as the caravan pipeline is coming to an end. Analogy.

The pipeline should be finished 2 years ago. The caravan got lost ...
You can understand the demand of the United States - pipeline gas is a direct competition with LNG from America. What would you do if you got into your pocket? It is surprising that Russia itself cannot complete such a project and does not have real leverage on European partners. ...

[businessv]

Quote: fa2998

The pipeline should be finished 2 years ago. The caravan got lost ...

Not 2, colleague, it was supposed to be launched in December 2019. Our ship got lost, as well as the hope and support Academician Chersky, who wanted to finish packing, but the navigator did not look, and the captain changed his mind. Today Fortuna is laying down, but if the minke whales press, he will knock down again. As for competition, mattresses have never supplied Europe with LNG in the required volumes, there has always been a pipe in the square, in which today the sleeping Joe is more interested than his predecessor, so we are not talking about any, let alone honest competition, it is not worth it at all - she is here does not smell.

[fa2998]

Quote: Lipchanin

So they receive their salary from the share of income that is due to them.
And this is less than half,

So why, the largest company in Russia ended up in the hands of individuals (even partially) After all, several generations were building the company, and the whole country was thrown off for development. Where then is my share?

[businessv]

Quote: fa2998

the whole country was thrown off for development. Where then is my share?

So we got to the main question of Russia: what to do? We must restore justice colleague! Let's start in the fall by voting for the Duma membership, and then we'll see.

[businessv]

According to German media reports, Russia intends to complete the construction of the gas pipeline despite threats from the United States.

Are we independent of minke whales and their sanctions? Why flutter your tongue how much in vain !? Again they will say "to the leg" and our oligarch and their mongrels will run, wagging their tails, to save everything they have stolen and do not care about SP 2! And the men (German media in SMS) do not know, so they write.