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How to neutralize electronic warfare?

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Indeed, I agree with those who asked these questions. We talked and wrote a lot about the capabilities of electronic warfare systems, it's time to talk about what can be opposed to these stations and whether it is possible at all.




But I'll start by answering the question about "Donald Cook". Another question from another reader.

What could the US Navy destroyer Donald Cook oppose to our Su-24, allegedly armed with the Khibiny? Yes, everything that is in the arsenal of this rather serious ship. For example, from missiles RIM-66 SM-2 "Standard-2", 20-mm six-barreled cannon "Phalanx" and up to "Colt" М1911 of the ship commander.

We have already said so many times that all this noise around “Donald Cook was raised by some overly active and, unfortunately, completely incompetent mass media in our country. Apparently, it should be repeated.

Alas, "miracleweapon"KREP" Khibiny "by no means can be installed on the Su-24 in order to de-energize the next US destroyer in the Black Sea. This complex was developed for the Su-34, and can be installed on the Su-30 in the Khibiny-U modification.



But the saddest thing is that the "Khibiny" is terrible only for the onboard radars of other aircraft and anti-aircraft missile guidance heads. Alas, such a target as a destroyer is too tough for the complex.



However, despite this sadness, the Khibiny complex is very good in terms of work in those cases for which it is intended. This is a fact proven in combat conditions.

And, speaking about our topic, it is very difficult to neutralize the Khibiny, since the complex itself copes with the setting of interference to the enemy very efficiently.

However, the leading countries of the world have something to oppose to the most sophisticated set of jamming. Actually, what is the hindrance? This is a generated special signal that goes from the transmitter antenna to the enemy receiver antenna and drives his electronics crazy.



All are armed with anti-radar missiles. Which just perfectly go to the radiation of the antenna of the electronic warfare complex, like a laser beam. And everyone has such missiles: we, the Americans, the Europeans, the Chinese. The only question is who has the best guidance system.

If we talk about active electronic warfare systems, then for those that are located in the range of such missiles, life can be very difficult. We have insured against such surprises, perhaps, only "Murmansk-BN", which can be placed outside the range of tactical weapons.



Speaking about this complex, I personally find it very difficult to say what can be opposed to this monster. After all, Murmansk can be positioned anywhere, and with its range (5 km in normal mode and more if the stars converge) it is not afraid of anything at all. Perhaps a ballistic missile, because not every cruise missile will reach the Murmansk, which will stand somewhere beyond the Urals and spoil communications in Europe.

Proven by application.

However, let's talk about the usual electronic warfare tools, which are not so exotic.

And here we can apply a certain theoretical division into two groups. These are stations that operate constantly in combat mode ("Mercury", "Zhitel", "Pole-21M") and impulse ("Krasukhi", the merry R-330 family).

And separately we have passive comrades such as "Moscow-1", "Borisoglebsk-2", "Avtobaza-M" and "Cordon-60M". Let's start with them.

Passive complexes.

These are completely passive in terms of radiation, control systems that do not emit anything, work with the signal received on their antennas and control a large number of active electronic warfare systems.

The only drawback of these complexes is the need to be located fairly close to the theoretical front line. Yes, the "Moscow" range of vision is impressive, but there are other nuances that do not allow the complex to be located in the deep rear.


"Moscow"


Detecting and eliminating control systems is a worthy task for any adversary, but here the difficulty lies solely in detection. It is very difficult to find a completely passive complex that does not broadcast anything. And here, of course, radar-guided missiles, you understand, do not play.



So, in order to oppose something to such complexes, they must first be discovered. If this task is completed, options for delivering strikes with missile weapons appear, aviation or sending the same DRG.

However, it is worth remembering that each complex manages a bunch of stations for different purposes, the same "Borisoglebsk-2" can control the R-378BMV, R-330BMV, R-934BMV and R-325UMV. And even if a complex is detected, the transmission of information can be very difficult.

Active complexes.

Yes, a complex that has to work constantly is much easier to detect. Which, by the way, was shown by the use of the "Resident" in combat conditions. The complex is simply magnificent, it allows you to cut down not just all cellular communications in a certain area, moreover, it can suppress all the phones of a particular operator.



But the use of combat showed who the enemy is very quick to understand that if the connection is disconnected, it is necessary to look for the "Resident" somewhere nearby. And they found it. Approximately, naturally.

And then such a very approximate, but very cheap weapon, like mortars, which turned out to be very effective against the R-330Zh, was used. They just stupidly sowed the sectors with mines until they flew to the right place.

"Mercury" is more complicated. It's very hard to shut down a system that drives any radio fuse crazy. "Blunt" weapons such as mines or shells simply do not work, because the complex covers objects of particular importance not on the front line. And if there are some particularly important points at a short distance, it is still problematic - one car is not the most convenient target.

In addition, from those who like to abandon anti-radar missiles, "Mercury" is easily covered by any other station capable of working on missiles. The same "Krasuhoy-4".

In general, everything is sad with the Pole-21 complex. It is difficult to find a control point that can be shoved into any wagon, a Gazelle car. And knocking out 100 emitters that can be placed anywhere, from rooftops to cell phone masts, is a challenge.

As for me, so "Pole-21" together with "Murmansk" - two of the most difficult to neutralize the EW complex. "Pole-21" because it can be spread over a rather large area, and "Murmansk" can be maximally removed from the affected area by any type of weapon.

Impulse complexes.



Not quite the correct definition, but the same "Krasuhi", 330th, all those who do not work constantly, can also be detected by the enemy. Simply because they work passively in tracking mode, and to the full extent in suppression mode. And here options are possible.

The weak point of all such stations is that they are forced to approach the enemy. Especially those complexes that work to disrupt communications between the ground forces and aviation.

So, how can you neutralize the EW complex?

1. Anti-radar missiles.

Effective for complexes that emit in working and combat modes. Completely useless against passive location complexes and control centers.

2. Mines, rockets, artillery shells.

Dangerous for those complexes that work at short distances. Plus, reconnaissance and guidance is required, which is far from always possible. Plus, the accuracy is poor.

3. Aircraft

The most, perhaps, ineffective type of weapon for work on electronic warfare systems. Simply because there are a lot of hunters for everything that flies in the EW.

4. Helicopters.

Somewhat more efficient than airplanes, because the speeds are lower, the dependence on radars is also less. The helicopter, perhaps, can sneak up to the electronic warfare complex and successfully attack. But the helicopter still needs to be aimed at the target, but this can be a problem. Plus, the helicopter is more easily knocked down by regimental-level air defense systems.

But planes and helicopters have one very powerful weapon. Perhaps even more effective than anti-radar missiles.

Oddly enough, these are conventional heat-seeking missiles.

Any electronic warfare complex consumes a large amount of energy. Some complexes are equipped with separate wheeled diesel power plants. And these stations, of course, generate enough heat.

Yes, there are means of masking thermal emission, but nevertheless, a missile with an IR seeker is quite relevant today.

5. DRG.

Well, yes, a group of fighters may well enter the complex and, without much straining, eliminate it along with the calculation. But spetsnaz in any country is a piece commodity, and we have enough electronic warfare systems. So, of course, somewhere the use of specialists can be beneficial, but, you see, not everywhere.

6. UAVs

Can. Because it's cheap and cheerful. The question of reconnaissance and the possibility of approaching with impunity to strike a target, because already in service there is a "Repellent" and "Pazanka", which are just working on drones. And many other complexes can work on them.

We will not consider cruise missiles and ICBMs, the target range is not the same.

And it turns out that when the question arises of the need to neutralize some kind of EW complex, in each case it is necessary to approach it separately. Not every complex can be taken with a rocket. Especially those that the rockets themselves can drop.



And if we are talking about the fact that our electronic warfare systems should be invulnerable, we are talking only about the echeloned cover of these. As with other electronic warfare systems, so with air defense systems and units capable of providing adequate resistance to the enemy's DRG.



And, of course, disguise.

It's not as difficult as it seems.
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  1. pmkemcity
    pmkemcity 12 February 2021 05: 42
    -4
    A strange classification is applied by the author. Why not alphabetically?
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 12 February 2021 14: 05
      -7
      How to neutralize electronic warfare?

      Elementary! Degrade until the era of Nicholas II, as the "mustache carrying the blizzard" bequeathed, declaring "this is our landmark and standard - we strive for it." Then the foe will simply have nothing to jam.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 12 February 2021 16: 59
        +3
        "Blizzard Carriers" - Yes, you carry it constantly.
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          1. venik
            venik 13 February 2021 14: 03
            +3
            Quote: lexus
            Vadik, do not think of yourself as a great critic with your moral and mental qualities.

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            Leshenka, do not think that you are a "great expert of all times and peoples" sitting on the couch! It seems that in matters of electronic warfare, you understand even worsethan Roman Skomorokhov (who created this "opus")!
      2. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 12 February 2021 22: 18
        +1
        So it is. Soon too. We are waiting, sir. Today everyone is equal to RI, money is being sawed, people are not allowed to read and write. Another 10 years and do not have to degrade - they will sell for next to nothing.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 12 February 2021 22: 21
          +1
          Some are ahead of the curve. Today they have a Sabbath here.
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 12 February 2021 22: 23
            0
            Yes, I noticed. Friday, you have to earn money, so they try, as expected, they screw up everything that they did not manage in a week. :)
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              1. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 12 February 2021 22: 32
                +1
                Or maybe they spent everything on beer, there is no money left for the medicine, so they are catching up, instead of drinking! Disorder.
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      3. Undecim
        Undecim 12 February 2021 22: 41
        +3
        Then the adversary will simply have nothing to jam
        How is there nothing? In the Navy, radio communications began to be introduced in 1900.
        And the Russian-Japanese army has already used it.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 12 February 2021 22: 48
          +1
          Viktor hi ,
          And here I am, excuse me, I'm not sure that the current degenerates and this does not go away.
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 12 February 2021 23: 02
            +1
            but here I am, excuse me, I'm not sure that the current degenerates and this does not go away
            "And today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Or rather, not only everyone can watch, very few people can do it."
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    2. venik
      venik 13 February 2021 00: 45
      +2
      Quote: pmkemcity
      A strange classification is applied by the author. Why not alphabetically?

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      And this is because Roman Skomorokhov again climbed into the area in which not a fig understands!
      This is not the first time! The last time he tried to explain to "the poor and the poor" the principle of operation of thermobaric ammunition, "safely"confusing it with the ammunition of a volumetric explosion! Well, what to do? This usually happens when you poke into a" foreign diocese "...
      This is not his only "blooper" ..... request
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 13 February 2021 01: 12
        0
        And this is because Roman Skomorokhov again climbed into an area in which a fig does not understand!
        He wrote repeatedly - Skomorokhov is a journalist. Knows nothing, but writes about everything.
        I doubt he has a higher education. It implies self-development. What Skomorokhov does not have. He would be like a zampolliter, there would be no price. Didn't have time, apparently.
        1. venik
          venik 13 February 2021 11: 41
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          Quote: AKuzenka
          He wrote repeatedly - Skomorokhov is a journalist. Knows nothing, but writes about everything.

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          Actually, I was sure that Roman Skomorokhov - personnel military .... Although probably wrong. request
          Alexander! Let's not "spread rot" so much against Roman - he has quite decent articles (especially on military-historical topics) .... But too often situations like: "Ostap suffered ... ".... And most often this happens when trying to analyze modern weapons. request
          This publication is just from this "series" ... I just want to "advise": "well do not you know - don't poke your nose! (to the point)".
          drinks
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 13 February 2021 23: 42
            +1
            Alexander! Let's not "spread rot" so much Roman - he also has quite decent articles (especially on military-historical topics) .... But too often situations like: "Ostap suffered ..." .... most often this happens when trying to analyze modern weapons.
            I would agree with you. But! He has very polar articles and all with his characteristic "fervor". Either Stalin is a tyrant and cannibal, then the USSR is good. I have already suggested to him either "take off the cross or put on panties." And then I realized - he was writing what he was sealed for. All. What can be more corrupt than a journalist? Two journalists !.
  2. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 12 February 2021 05: 59
    +6
    Oddly enough, these are conventional heat-seeking missiles.
    Any electronic warfare complex consumes a large amount of energy. Some complexes are equipped with separate diesel power plants on wheels

    Of course, it's a pity for the power plant, and even on a wheel drive, but I'm glad that the electric energy can be transmitted by wires and quite far from the source. So, the EW complex itself does not care about such missiles.
    1. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 12 February 2021 07: 33
      +6
      It is possible to transmit electricity through wires, but unwinding and winding power cables is still a hassle. I know I played.
    2. aars
      aars 12 February 2021 08: 03
      +8
      Most of what comes through the wires will turn into heat - everything heats up, and especially the transmitters.
      Don't give a damn.
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 12 February 2021 09: 05
        +4
        Most of what comes through the wires will turn into heat - everything heats up, and especially the transmitters.
        Don't give a damn

        cable cables are up to 100 meters long. The generating set is placed at such a distance, and even in a caponier, and even closed on top with 2 rolls of logs. The thermal reconnaissance will not detect any energy losses, if it does, it will not hit, if it does, then the complex itself is intact.
        1. Kalmar
          Kalmar 12 February 2021 09: 37
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          Quote: glory1974
          cable cables are up to 100 meters long

          As an option: a missile with an IR seeker strikes the power plant (disconnecting the complexes powered from it), and the terrain for a hundred meters around is fertilized with conventional bombs, NURs or cluster munitions (depending on which air defense is rubbing nearby).
        2. Sergey Valov
          Sergey Valov 12 February 2021 10: 24
          +3
          "And even in a caponier, and even closed from above with logs" - this is so when the station is in a stationary position. But there is one ambush - its location is stable and can be determined. There is an easier way to get electricity - connecting to civil power grids, in which case the electric unit is not needed. But if the station moves, then you won't have time to make a caponier, at best you can pull the camouflage net.
        3. Intruder
          Intruder 12 February 2021 22: 51
          +1
          if it hits, then the complex itself is whole.
          but completely silent !? wink And here, the most interesting begins for other means of guided weapons ... laughing
    3. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 12 February 2021 10: 29
      +1
      By the way, there were two standard gasoline electric units on the P-15 - one on a single-axle trailer, and the second, inside the KUNG. Naturally, during the exercises, we launched the one that was located in KUNG, we were too lazy to unwind the cables.
    4. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 12 February 2021 10: 40
      +3
      Equipping PR missiles with thermal imaging seeker has long been considered a promising direction! PR-missiles with only one passive radar seeker is "yesterday"! Modern PR missiles, along with a passive radar seeker, can be additionally equipped with a GPS receiver, a thermal imaging or an active millimeter-wave radar seeker!
      1. psiho117
        psiho117 12 February 2021 15: 24
        +3
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Modern PR missiles, along with passive radar seeker, can be additionally equipped with a GPS receiver

        Also, since the days of HARM, anti-radar missiles remember the place where the radar signal came from, and they continue to attack the INS, even if the radar was turned off.
        In general, the confrontation between sword and shield is in full swing as always bully
        1. yehat2
          yehat2 April 6 2021 16: 05
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          Quote: psiho117
          Also, since the days of HARM, anti-radar missiles remember the place where the radar signal came from.

          the only problem is that they do not know the place - they only have the bearing of the vector with a certain degree of accuracy and a very approximately calculated distance.
          If the target works intermittently and is even a little covered, then getting there becomes problematic.
          A double bearing, with the help of which triangulation is possible, is unrealistic to obtain.
          So the banal switching of emitting systems from one to another (not only electronic warfare), which has already become the norm of defense, poses difficult tasks to hit.
          It's just that usually the targets that are trying to hit have very little concern about their safety -
          there is no camouflage on the ground, no shelters for personnel, no backup systems, no officer who is able to conduct "funkelspiel".
    5. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 13 February 2021 01: 14
      +1
      Damn it, it's much easier to aim thermal masking with radar or visual. Lighted a fire and wait for it to arrive. And a car, under a film with foil.
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 12 February 2021 06: 04
    +4
    Thanks for the article. Personally, I have only heard out of the corner of my ear about electronic warfare - they say, there is such.
    But I don’t understand how the electronic warfare will cut down the "blunt" weapon? Mines and shells with radio fuses are no longer so "stupid", but simple, shock-based, most likely complexes and emitters "on the drum" !?
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 12 February 2021 08: 25
      +5
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Mines and shells with radio fuses are no longer so "stupid", but simple, shock action,

      Electronic warfare systems simply will not give the signal for an explosion to reach the mine's radio receiver. Naturally, it is useless against mechanical mines.
      In the states, such systems began to be installed regularly on the Abrams, there are mobile ones for the columns. The video shows how it works.


  4. svp67
    svp67 12 February 2021 06: 37
    +7
    And nevertheless, Azerbaijan managed to destroy several electronic warfare systems, with the help of the same "Ophiuchus" during the recent conflict with Armenia ... "There is a nut for every bolt"
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 12 February 2021 08: 32
      +4
      The significance of the Bayraktars is exaggerated. Azerbaijan is full of purchased electronic warfare systems. Here Israel helped more. They used them a lot and professionally. This alone explains the rapid and complete destruction of the layered air defense of the Armenians.
      1. svp67
        svp67 12 February 2021 10: 27
        +5
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        The significance of the Bayraktars is exaggerated.

        Well, it was their "premiere" in such an armed confrontation and it is not surprising that they receive so much attention
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        Here Israel helped more.

        Yes, their "kamikaze" planning bombs and missiles have shown their great effectiveness
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 12 February 2021 10: 38
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          "premiere" in a similar armed confrontation

          In Idlib and Libya, their role is greater and the battles were earlier.
          In Libya, opponents are generally identical to each other. There, the losses are at least somehow comparable (about 1 to 2), and not 1 to 5-10 as in Idlib and Karabakh.
          1. svp67
            svp67 12 February 2021 12: 38
            +4
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            In Idlib and Libya, their role is greater and the battles were earlier.

            And here and there they were used by the Turks themselves, and in this conflict, the country that bought them. There are a lot of examples in history when, in such situations, weapons sharply lost their effectiveness ...
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 12 February 2021 12: 44
              +1
              Quote: svp67
              in this conflict, the country that bought them.

              I agree. Advisors cannot fight instead of the main forces.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 February 2021 17: 02
      +2
      Against electronic warfare systems, anti-tank systems of the Spike type with a range of 30 kilometers and kamikaze drones with TV guidance and a radio receiver that can be sent on an autonomous flight for 1000 kilometers by the Israeli Harop are excellent examples.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 12 February 2021 22: 25
        +4
        Are they or analogues on the equipment of the RF Armed Forces? If only in wet dreams.
  5. Runway
    Runway 12 February 2021 06: 49
    +7
    The author has collected everything in a heap. Both "targets" and "means of destruction".
    The entire "line" of RB: rz, rp and rr - means of supporting the actions of troops at the level: division / brigade and uphill before unification. The first two elements work on the task (defense / offensive), the last one - systematically, as it should be for RO.
    OSHS of any of the associations is transparent as glass and the activity of the first two elements (pz / pn) is an indirect sign of preparation for the OBD on the site / in the strip.
    Proceeding from this, taking into account other rd about activity / preparation, the enemy fulfills his own and defeats the elements of aliens.
    A crumpled article, however.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 12 February 2021 08: 36
      +4
      I agree. Vinaigrette mixed with compote. Moreover, the terminology is philistine. Apparently they wanted to simplify. In order to explain the principles of electronic warfare, such articles need 10-15 pieces.
      Here are our electronic warfare components and the US classification.

  6. rocket757
    rocket757 12 February 2021 07: 39
    +2
    How to neutralize electronic warfare?

    This struggle is endless ... the means of electronic warfare will be, will be improved, as well as the ways to neutralize it.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 12 February 2021 11: 41
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      means of electronic warfare will be improved, as well as methods of its neutralization.

      And even now, "something" is already proposed to protect the radar and "active" electronic warfare systems! For example, a kind of KAZ, a radio transmitter simulator of a radar with a parachute in the warhead of a fired missile - the "defender" of the complex, multicopter simulators of a radar "hanging" in the air not far from the protected object ...!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 February 2021 11: 58
        +2
        The main protection is ... yes, it is a whole complex of all "tricky" equipment! Of course, from the old methods, "to extinguish radically" everything that is against, interferes, no one is going to refuse!
  7. Alien From
    Alien From 12 February 2021 07: 56
    +2
    I'm far from the topic, like an iceberg in the ocean ..... but interesting))
  8. aars
    aars 12 February 2021 08: 05
    +1
    Not every complex can be taken with a rocket. Especially those that the rockets themselves can drop.
    I wonder how to drop it?
    If the rocket roughly goes to the location of the electronic warfare on the inertial, and then looks at the thermal seeker ...
    Will not drop it.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 12 February 2021 08: 37
      +2
      Right. Perfect missiles have 4-5 guidance methods. They work simultaneously.
    2. HateHouse2
      HateHouse2 12 February 2021 09: 12
      +1
      Someone is also watching the rocket. I know exactly. :-)
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 12 February 2021 08: 22
    +1
    Can Kamikaze Drones ..... launched a flock and let them look.
  10. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 12 February 2021 08: 42
    +3
    A fairly superficial overview ... concerns various aspects of technology, and even then not all ... for example, where weapons such as special charges ... electronic warfare ... bombs, warheads and projectiles, where small-sized jammers with which you can sow enemy antenna fields, electronic camouflage and so on and so on that goes into the concept of electronic warfare ... and so interesting of course ... one article contains the main military equipment ...
  11. Glory1974
    Glory1974 12 February 2021 09: 25
    +4
    In the United States, electronic warfare is one of the types of destruction of the enemy, which should be used along with fire destruction of the enemy. We have electronic warfare one of the types of combat support. Appropriate attitude and place in the army, as they say, feel the difference.
    American electronic warfare is in no way inferior to ours, but in many respects, for example, in terms of mass-dimensional characteristics, and superior.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 12 February 2021 09: 58
      +4
      Briefly and not completely what is in the electronic warfare units in the ground forces of the US armed forces


      in the "heavy" and "light" brigades, the forces and means of electronic warfare are represented by two RER and electronic warfare stations AN / MLQ-40 (V) 1 Prophet ("Prophet") and four UAVs of the RQ-7 Shadow 200 type. Organizationally, the above means are included in the military intelligence company of the battalion of special forces.
      In the mechanized brigade "Stryker" forces and means of electronic warfare are included in the company of electronic intelligence and electronic warfare of the reconnaissance battalion. In total, the company has three AN / MLQ-40 (V) 1 Prophet RER detection stations and one RQ-7 Shadow 200 tactical reconnaissance UAV complex (four reconnaissance UAVs).
      in the interests of the brigades of the US ground forces, an autonomous system of RRTR and electronic warfare WolfPack ("Wolfpack") was developed. It is designed to conduct radio and radio-technical reconnaissance, electronic suppression of radio-electronic means, control and communication systems of the enemy's tactical echelon and to protect their own radio electronic means from similar influences.
      The army aviation brigade includes the "Quick Fix-2" complex, equipped with four radio reconnaissance helicopters and a REP EUN-60C, designed to detect, recognize, determine the coordinates of emitting means in the operational-tactical control link and jam radio communication lines.
      The most effective means of obtaining information about the enemy's command and control systems in order to prepare and conduct information operations in the theater of operations at the level of the "army corps" and above is the mobile automated complex AN / TSQ-152 (V) "Enhanced Trackwolf".
      A special role in information operations with the participation of ground forces and the Air Force is assigned to the ES-130N Compass Call, a specialized jammer for enemy communications and control systems, operating from the so-called "safe zones" or loitering area.
  12. Avior
    Avior 12 February 2021 09: 30
    +3
    The author has mixed a lot. RTR mixed with electronic warfare, anti-radar missiles with explosive missiles with IR guidance - everything is mixed.
    Any emitting electronic warfare station - otherwise it cannot work - is determined by the enemy's RTR reconnaissance very quickly, if it is in the area of ​​the RTR reconnaissance, of course. And then she is amazed. The only question is the skills and abilities of the enemy. The war in Karabakh showed that the Azerbaijanis did it without any major problems.
    An even simpler option is loitering ammunition with guidance to the radiation source. We launched several units into the area of ​​hostilities, and the work of the slave was paralyzed.
    Electronic warfare is only one of the elements, it is not a miracle weapon.
    It is not clear why the author wrote off aviation. On the contrary, aviation with RTR intelligence capabilities is the main enemy of electronic warfare.
    Moreover, air-to-ground missiles based on thermal imagers are becoming more widespread, and EW will not help much against them.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 12 February 2021 09: 38
      +1
      Comrade Avior, RTR is an integral and integral part of electronic warfare.
      The main parts of electronic warfare: Electronic intelligence (RER), Electronic protection (REZ), Electronic suppression (REP)
      The RER already includes RTR.
      1. Avior
        Avior 12 February 2021 10: 26
        +3
        RTR is in some cases part of the electronic warfare, but these are not equivalent concepts, and the author uses them as synonyms.
        And electronic reconnaissance is not necessarily an element of electronic warfare, there is also another purpose.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 12 February 2021 11: 26
      +1
      Quote: Avior
      loitering ammunition with guidance to the radiation source

      Such ammunition drones are also considered a promising direction at the present time! Such an anti-radar UAV-"kamikaze" can "hang" for hours in the area where the radar or "active" electronic warfare station is located ... if a radio signal is detected, the drone can immediately attack! The use of "multicopter mines" is not excluded ... Electronic warfare, ejected from aircraft (including from UAVs ...) or helicopters PR-drones - "kamikaze" type of copters or other scheme with vertical takeoff ... a kind of "UAV-mines" ... Such PR -Copters, upon detecting a radio signal, take off and attack the target ... but before that, a "decent" time can be in ambush!
  13. Petrik66
    Petrik66 12 February 2021 09: 56
    +3
    Р330у and Р330П - served on them back in 84-86. There are two modes: automaton 1 and 2, if you know, then tell us - How is the Shrike supposed to fly along the beam when the station is operating in this mode? Sowing mines? Is there enough ammo? Moreover, the "pyramid" is still on the basis of the MLTB and is armored, of course it will not stand a howitzer, but the fragments ....... suppression range is up to 30 km. distance - 5-10 km. from the front line, depending on the tasks and relief. DRG - I agree, but they have other tasks. For other devices I will not say - I do not know.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 12 February 2021 10: 19
      +4
      Quote: Petrik66
      How is the Shrike supposed to fly along the beam when the station is operating in this mode?

      No way. This is the author's invention.
      In modern conditions, electronic warfare systems (including UAVs) determine the approximate square of the interference source, UAVs equipped with various optical systems conduct additional reconnaissance, strike by various means.
  14. Professor
    Professor 12 February 2021 17: 15
    +2
    However, despite this sadness, the Khibiny complex is very good in terms of work in those cases for which it is intended. This is a fact proven in combat conditions.
    In what combat conditions was the Su-34 attacked by the SAM?

    Speaking about this complex, I personally find it very difficult to say what can be opposed to this monster. After all, Murmansk can be positioned anywhere, and with its range (5 km in normal mode and more if the stars converge) it is not afraid of anything at all. Perhaps a ballistic missile, because not every cruise missile will reach the Murmansk, which will stand somewhere beyond the Urals and spoil communications in Europe.

    Proven by application.

    Where and when? And what is the signal strength at 5000 km from the target? Isn't it funny yourself?

    Yes, a complex that has to work constantly is much easier to detect. Which, by the way, was shown by the use of the "Resident" in combat conditions. The complex is simply magnificent, it allows you to cut down not just all cellular communications in a certain area, moreover, it can suppress all the phones of a particular operator.

    Where and when in combat conditions? Who and how evaluated the effectiveness?

    "Mercury" is more complicated. It's very hard to shut down a system that drives any radio fuse crazy.

    Any?

    So, how can you neutralize the EW complex?

    Roma, do you think it needs to be destroyed to neutralize? Not at all. You just need to filter out interference, switch to another frequency, apply a directional signal, and so on.
    1. Tavrik
      Tavrik 22 March 2021 11: 40
      0
      Where and when? And what is the signal strength at 5000 km from the target? Isn't it funny yourself?

      This is all because the author does not understand what is intended for what with reference to frequency ranges.
  15. LAWNER
    LAWNER 12 February 2021 18: 27
    0
    I agree with the author 100% ...
  16. Momotomba
    Momotomba 12 February 2021 20: 04
    0
    The penultimate photo shows an incorrect deployment ... from the point of view of a signalman)
  17. Momotomba
    Momotomba 12 February 2021 20: 08
    +3
    And why do we need an electronic warfare complex in the Urals, which kills communication for 5000 km? We will crush ourselves ...
  18. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 12 February 2021 20: 21
    +7
    Admit that you didn't know that! belay

    Since then, all NATO member states have ordered microwave manufacturers to block magnetrons if the appliance door is open. lol
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      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 12 February 2021 23: 23
        +2
        Quote: lexus
        Alexander ,
        why are you so?

        What would then, no one said: "And they hid it from us." hi
    2. KCA
      KCA 14 February 2021 12: 38
      -2
      Microwaves always turned off when the door was opened, and 30 or more years ago, they only turned off with a simple limit switch, which is mechanically blocked, there is no problem, but using it as an electronic warfare is complete nonsense, the radiation is distributed so as to fill the entire volume of the stove and when the door is opened if you stick your head in, you can get hurt, but an airplane or a rocket won't react to a working microwave, well, unless it's a powerful RTR airplane
  19. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 12 February 2021 22: 56
    0
    And here is the author versus Donald Cook. He is not a patriot at all, since he does not believe in the photos uploaded allegedly by SU 24 with the Khibiny.
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 13 February 2021 11: 31
      +1
      A true patriot should still believe that our Su-24 with the Khibiny completely knocked out Donald Cook. Otherwise, how to live without faith? This is both to believe in God and in the Khibiny on the Su-24.
  20. businessv
    businessv 13 February 2021 23: 36
    0
    And, of course, disguise. It's not as difficult as it sounds.

    Roman, thanks for the article! I am far from an expert, but I was curious to know both the types of the complexes themselves and the methods of dealing with them! Thanks again, it was interesting! hi
  21. Bogatyrev
    Bogatyrev 13 February 2021 23: 50
    0
    Would you better explain how the Azerbaijani UAVs bypassed the Pole-21M complex in Karabakh on the fourth day, when it was turned on and the Bayraktars stopped flying?
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 14 February 2021 00: 04
      0
      Quote: Bogatyrev
      Azerbaijani UAVs bypassed the Pole-21M complex

      Very simply, the REP stopped working as soon as the flying weather appeared. The weather has improved and the UAV can fly.
  22. Outsider
    Outsider 14 February 2021 16: 44
    -1
    - How are they fighting with electronic warfare means?
    Interference immunity of radar, airborne radar, communications and telecontrol equipment - firstly.
    Secondly, by fire suppression of enemy electronic warfare means.
    There are conditions for electronic suppression, and if at least one of them is not observed, then there is no suppression.
    Terms:
    1. Spatial - the signals of the electronic warfare station must fall into the receiving device of the suppressed radar / radar station. Modern radars with AFAR have a directional pattern in the form of a needle beam with a diameter of slightly more than 2 ° and an extremely low level of side lobes, therefore, the signals of the electronic warfare station can get into the radar receiver only if the electronic warfare station is installed directly on the target or very close to it.
    2. Time - this does not need special explanations.
    3. Frequency - in terms of noise immunity in the West, since the time of the Vietnam War, radar and radio communication devices have been rebuilding the carrier frequency with a very high rebuilding frequency according to a pseudo-random law - up to 1000 times / second. Naturally, the electronic warfare station cannot have time to rebuild at such a speed, therefore, at best, it is forced to cover the entire range in which the frequency changes, and this inevitably leads to a drop in the power of the electronic warfare signals to a specific section of the operating range of the on-board radar in a given millisecond.
    4. Energy - if the signal reflected from the target entering the on-board radar receiver is significantly higher than the received direct EW signal, then there is no energy suppression, but if the reflected signal from the target is less than the jamming signal, then the energy-related interference can suppress the on-board radar. The closer the target is to the fighter, the less chances its electronic warfare station has to suppress the radar, while on the so-called minimum suppression range (Дп min.) The power of the reflected signal is compared with the signal of the electronic warfare station - and closer to Дп min. no suppression occurs.
    5. Structural - in modern radars / radars with AFAR, the signal (for example, phase-shift keyed) represents a chain of pulses, in each of which the phase changes, the entire chain of pulses (for example, from 50) is a code that passes through special filters when received and is compared with the code the emitted probing signal. If the signal is his own, it will pass through the filter, if the enemy does not know the code, it will not pass, even if the electronic warfare signal is of high power and at the same carrier frequency, it will be filtered, there will be no suppression.

    EW conditions, or vice versa - noise immunity - ALL FIVE CONDITIONS MUST BE FULFILLED (or not fulfilled) SIMULTANEOUSLY.
    If all five are executed simultaneously - there is suppression, if at least one is not executed - to hell! laughing lol
    1. interceptor58
      interceptor58 1 March 2021 15: 46
      0
      A small addition to the terms. 1. When operating on aircraft radar, the overwhelming majority of the detection range is determined by the side lobes. 5. In certain modes, the EW means re-emitting the signal received from the radar, keeping the code and changing other parameters of the signal (mainly time).
      1. Outsider
        Outsider 1 March 2021 23: 59
        0
        1. The level of side lobes in modern airborne radars is extremely low. From -35 dB for the Russian "Bars" to -60 for the AHG-77. Therefore, the impact on them by means of electronic warfare is a very hopeless business.
        5. An electronic warfare facility would be happy to quickly analyze and re-emit a packet of probing pulses with the entire structure of the signal, but the problem is that this structure can change from packet to packet, as well as the frequency. You won't get away ...
  23. Alexander Koshkin
    Alexander Koshkin 15 February 2021 01: 29
    -1
    Interesting factual material. It is very rare in the field of shapkozidatelny posts about domestic electronic warfare.
    The only unclear nuance is that the enemy has electronic warfare! The Turks boasted that their Coral had completely cut down the entire air defense of Karabakh. Amers have electronic warfare capabilities much higher! They traditionally outstripped the USSR in the field of electronic warfare due to their superiority in the element base, information technology, and computing power. According to experts, this gap has only increased recently and continues to grow!
    In a real clash with Vladimir Vladimirovich's partners, the use of electronic warfare may not be a trump card, but an Achilles heel.
  24. Fisherman
    Fisherman 3 March 2021 21: 22
    0
    Why drag the "Khibiny" to the cutting off of the power supply to the "D.Kuk"? Power supply is cut off by e / m impulse systems, one of which, apparently, was suspended on our air hooligan. And a bullet from the commander's Colt or even Phalanx in manual mode against modern aviation is a hopeless, even dangerous, reason for aggression, will drown to hell. Even on the automatic machine, the Falanx cannot get into light excitement for a long time and stubbornly on the simplest small vessels (there is a lot of video), and the advertising video of the fight between Falanx and the ancient attack aircraft A10 (ineffective) is a computer graphics.
  25. yehat2
    yehat2 April 6 2021 15: 56
    0
    If the EW complex is too annoying, tell your wife to keep quiet for a while
    and the problem is resolved.
  26. gridasov
    gridasov April 19 2021 10: 44
    -1
    It must be understood that the so-called RZB works selectively and in a personalized manner and with courage. That is, when setting noise, you just need to switch to other parametric ranges of impulse perturbation. Or initially work in such parameters, which are unattainable by others. And here the possibilities are practically unlimited.
  27. Siegfried
    Siegfried April 26 2021 17: 16
    0
    how much can be neutralized is the use of paseidons against communication cables in the Atlantic. There probably will be the first use of "Poseidon", the destruction of traffic between North America and Europe. There will also be space channels in reserve, but the capacity there will not provide even 1% of the required traffic. Satellites can also become targets in a theoretical conflict. Perhaps that is why Starlink is being created as a stable system with high bandwidth.
  28. Li17
    Li17 10 May 2021 19: 42
    0
    there is one more factor that puts any complex out of action, our famous slovenliness and mess. This is expressed in the fact that very often there is this complex on paper, but in real life, as usual, someone screwed something in the wrong place, as usual there are not enough specialists, it flew there ...