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The costs of the Ministry of Defense for the creation of the latest weapons systems are named

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The costs of the Ministry of Defense for the creation of the latest weapons systems are named

The creation of the latest Russian weapons, presented by Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2018, did without "unbearable spending." This was announced by ex-defense minister Sergei Ivanov.


Speaking at an event of the Russian Military Historical Society in Moscow, Ivanov said that armory systems "Petrel", "Avangard", "Peresvet", "Poseidon" and other "breakthrough" weapons annually spent 10-20 billion rubles, which for the Ministry of Defense was almost imperceptible at trillions of expenditures.

I will not hide, I am involved in the beginning of the development of those types of weapons that have now appeared in the arsenal of the Russian army, which the President spoke about recently in his message: Avangard, Peresvet, Poseidon, and much more. It took 10 years to get it done without strain, noise and dust, without huge financial efforts, that is, gradually, 10-20 billion rubles a year

- said Ivanov.

He stressed that the development of new types of weapons was carried out without "propaganda noise", without loud statements. And only when the development was largely completed, they began to talk about it, gradually disclosing information about the created weapon.

Recall that in 2018, Russian President Vladimir Putin, in his message to the Federal Assembly, spoke about the latest Russian developments in the field of weapons. In particular, the message spoke about the Dagger hypersonic missile and the Avangard hypersonic unit. Later it became known about other advanced weapons developed by Russian specialists.
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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 11 February 2021 17: 12
    -25%
    This is all good, of course, but in this year's budget, the costs of medical equipment are lower than in the past. On the other hand, the cost of Rosgvardia increased, exceeding the cost of the Ministry of Defense for the first time.
    So I would not be in a hurry with victorious statements.
    1. frruc
      frruc 11 February 2021 17: 15
      +27
      the development of new types of weapons was carried out without "propaganda noise", without loud statements ...
      This is how we must continue, quietly, peacefully, purposefully and effectively.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 11 February 2021 19: 16
        -27%
        Quote: frruc
        This is how we must continue, quietly, peacefully, purposefully and effectively.

        Sawing and sawing, dark deeds do not tolerate bright light. good How many years has Armat been pedaling, under your slogans? wink
        1. venik
          venik 11 February 2021 22: 09
          +5
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Sawing and sawing, dark deeds do not tolerate bright light. good How many years has Armat been pedaling, under your slogans?

          =======
          "Armata" - DO NOT PEDALATE! Some experts "pedal". "Armata" - MAKE "to mind" and serial production! And it seems that the main "childhood diseases" have already been eliminated and prepared for series!
          1. Elturisto
            Elturisto 11 February 2021 22: 36
            -11%
            What is that fine-tuning, R&D on the engine - cutting is far from a childhood disease :)
            1. venik
              venik 11 February 2021 22: 45
              +9
              Quote: ElTuristo
              What is that fine-tuning, R&D on the engine -sawed this is far from a childhood disease :)

              =======
              Are you such a "specialist" in tank engines? belay
              Then the PROOF that this is a "cut" - In the studio!
              PS If you do not provide them, we can consider you a banal demagogue, throwing fashionable words!
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 12 February 2021 07: 23
                -4
                Quote: venik
                Then the PROOF that this is a "cut" - In the studio

                The X-engine was developed in the late 80s, not the latest development. wink
                1. venik
                  venik 12 February 2021 09: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  The X-engine was developed in the late 80s, not the latest development.

                  ========
                  To be honest, the X-shaped engine is a development of the 20s of the last century, by the way, like the V-shaped, H-shaped and radial engines (by the way, they were invented even earlier!) .... Alas! "There is nothing new under the sun" lol
                  Or do you naively believe that the concept of NEW engine means some kind of "exotic" layout ... For example, "L-shaped"? laughing
              2. Elturisto
                Elturisto 12 February 2021 17: 42
                -1
                R&D on the engine in Chelyabinsk is closed, the cost is more than 400 million rubles, the result is zero-run to the curator to complain :)
                1. venik
                  venik 12 February 2021 22: 15
                  0
                  Quote: ElTuristo
                  run to the curator to complain

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                  Tourist! Did you accidentally "missed the shore"? Or do you measure everyone by yourself?
    2. frruc
      frruc 11 February 2021 17: 21
      +11
      It talks about new arrivals of weapons in the Min. defense of the Russian Federation. What does the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the National Guard in particular have to do with it?
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 11 February 2021 18: 15
        +3
        I agree with you. Just a small correction. Rosgvardia is not included in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it is a separate structure.
    3. Dodikson
      Dodikson 11 February 2021 17: 26
      +1
      I see you won't be able to sleep well until you lie.
      pichalka
    4. Mitroha
      Mitroha 11 February 2021 17: 27
      +15
      And in the event of the outbreak of full-scale hostilities, do you think the National Guard will not participate in the country's defense? Or, for example, they should fight with terrorists with daggers? No matter how anyone treats them.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 11 February 2021 17: 29
        +4
        Do you think that they really spend more on Rosgvardia? laughing
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 11 February 2021 18: 32
          +6
          I answered a person who thinks so and who for some reason is offend request
          1. loki565
            loki565 11 February 2021 19: 59
            +17
            I answered a person who thinks so and who for some reason is offend

            You are answering a professional fan thrower, he has all the comments)))
      2. frruc
        frruc 11 February 2021 17: 38
        +2
        in the event of the start of full-scale hostilities, everyone will be called up from the reserve too, and at this stage it is mainly SOBR and FSB units that communicate with the bandits.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 11 February 2021 18: 17
          +7
          SOBR is part of the Russian Guard.
    5. Doccor18
      Doccor18 11 February 2021 17: 34
      +17
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      On the other hand, the costs for Rosgvardia increased, for the first time exceeding the costs of medical facilities.

      Are you saying that over $ 47 yards will be spent on Rosgvardia ..?
      In my opinion, this is a fake ...
      1. A009
        A009 11 February 2021 17: 58
        +15
        It is strange, and people are fiercely minus, although it is elementary to check the data (if you do not have enough logic to understand) that it is not a multiple of it, but an order of magnitude less money is spent on the Ministry of Defense.
        Either something is inadequate or I don’t know. The utter stupidity is in the first message and such a response
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 11 February 2021 19: 24
          -8
          Quote: A009
          that for the Rosguard it is not a multiple, but an order of magnitude less to spend on the Ministry of Defense.

          I apologize wildly, I got hurt. repeat The expenditures and the number of Rosgvardia exceeded the number and expenditures of the RF ground forces.
          But in terms of cutting the expenses of the Ministry of Defense for the 21st year, everything is correct, as well as in terms of increasing expenses for the Russian Guard. hi
    6. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 11 February 2021 17: 55
      +8
      Where did you get the data on the excess of FSVNG expenses over the expenses of the Ministry of Defense? Compare the number of people in these departments and the cost of the weapons in service with these structures. Unlike the Ministry of Defense, Rosgvardia is armed with mainly small arms. Funds for the purchase of weapons, their operation and armament for the needs of the Ministry of Defense are required many times more compared to the Russian Guard.
    7. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 11 February 2021 18: 11
      +7
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      But the cost of Rosgvardia increased,

      What, scary? That's the same ... laughing
    8. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 11 February 2021 18: 12
      +4
      Less, because it is impossible and it makes no sense to re-arm at such a rate. The reduction is planned and announced long ago. It could not but happen.
    9. svp67
      svp67 12 February 2021 06: 09
      +2
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      On the other hand, the costs for Rosgvardia increased, for the first time exceeding the costs of medical facilities.

      And "tsifiri" can be and from where they were taken, you can indicate. And then somehow it is hard to believe that the number of these organizations differs in favor of the Ministry of Defense, and the Rosgvardia does not have the same heavy bombers, fighters, attack aircraft, AWACS aircraft, an analogue of the Strategic Missile Forces, which are very expensive ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 12 February 2021 07: 28
        0
        I already wrote to Sergei that he "slightly" burst out, mentioning all MO. repeat
        But in terms of cutting down the squabbles in the Moscow region against the backdrop of increased spending on the Russian Guard, everything is correct. hi
  2. cniza
    cniza 11 February 2021 17: 29
    +6
    He stressed that the development of new types of weapons was carried out without "propaganda noise", without loud statements.


    The right approach, and then a surprise for the "partners" ...
    1. dauria
      dauria 11 February 2021 21: 02
      -6
      , and then a surprise for the "partners".


      History is quickly forgotten ... wink But these "presentations" surprisingly coincided with the presidential election campaign of 18th year. With a smell it turned out.
      The names were chosen by "all the people" ... laughing When was this in the USSR? And why? The names of the aircraft did not even know, they were not in the open press. There was a production plane, there was no special secret, even the factory ones, their relatives and friends knew - but there are photos in print, there is no name.
  3. Destiny
    Destiny 11 February 2021 17: 30
    +16
    10-20 billion rubles a year were spent on the creation of the weapon systems "Petrel", "Avangard", "Peresvet", "Poseidon" and other "breakthrough" weapons

    It is possible and necessary not to economize on scientific developments for the country's defense industry.
    "The people who do not want to feed their army will feed someone else's"
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  5. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 11 February 2021 17: 48
    +6
    You have to spend money, but what can you do.
    Free only flies get married.
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 February 2021 18: 29
    +2
    The author, have you looked at the calendar for a long time? It's 2021 now, not 2018. Or he caught lethargy, it happens. fellow lol
  7. Wolf
    Wolf 11 February 2021 18: 42
    -5
    Where is Ivanov today?
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 11 February 2021 18: 44
      -6
      And where is Efimov today? Brothers 5 and 6 are working! wink
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 11 February 2021 20: 57
      +2
      Member of the Security Council of Russia, special presidential envoy for environmental issues. But in reality, of course, he is not only engaged in ecology.
  8. Cowbra
    Cowbra 11 February 2021 19: 49
    +4
    Well, in fact, there was a bet on an asymmetric answer, and she completely played. With really - minimal costs. Which is why it rinsing all the liberoid cultists)
  9. Coconut
    Coconut 11 February 2021 21: 56
    -4
    The costs of the Ministry of Defense for the creation of the latest weapons systems are named

    now everyone wants to get dirty on paper ... but how in fact ... we don't know recourse
  10. Lexus
    Lexus 12 February 2021 02: 59
    -4
    If only costs hadn't become waste. what
  11. Old26
    Old26 12 February 2021 13: 11
    +4
    that the development of new types of weapons was carried out without "propaganda noise", without loud statements.

    Of course of course. No propaganda noise. Of all those voiced on March 1, 2018, only Avangard is in service. And about the rest of the "silence"? Nothing is remembered in the media: neither "Petrel" is remembered, and "Poseidon" is not remembered, and "Peresvet" is also not remembered. And so all for almost 4 years. What then, from Ivanov's point of view, is "propaganda noise" if not the action that has been going on for 4 years ???