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The developer announced the beginning of state tests of the K-16 BTR on the Boomerang platform

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The developer announced the beginning of state tests of the K-16 BTR on the Boomerang platform

The new K-16 armored personnel carrier based on the Boomerang unified wheeled platform will enter state trials this year. Alexander Krasovitsky, general director of the Military-Industrial Company, told Interfax about this.


This year the K-16 is going to state tests. Preliminary tests of the armored personnel carrier were completed last year, the car received the letter "O"

- he said.

According to Krasovitsky, the K-16 BTR is a fundamentally new vehicle in the armored personnel carrier class, developed with a high level of protection, a new transmission and control system.

(...) all modern achievements of science and technology have been used in the design; it can be said that a breakthrough in engineering is laid in this machine. If necessary, you can control the machine remotely, that is, the chassis information and control system supports all functions of robotic movement

- added the general director of the military-industrial complex.

Answering the question about the creation on the Boomerang platform of a wheeled tankKrasovitsky explained that such a tank will be created corresponding to the task at hand, but at the moment there is no such order.

As for the possibility of creating a wheeled tank on this base, this is not a problem. If we are given such a task, we will certainly fulfill it.

- he specified.

The general director of the military-industrial complex announced in December last year that the state tests of the K-16 armored personnel carrier (APC) and the K-17 wheeled infantry fighting vehicle (BMP) on the Boomerang platform will begin in the spring of 2021, but did not give a more precise date. According to him, both vehicles, which had previously completed preliminary tests, were modified taking into account the wishes of the Ministry of Defense. At the same time, it was reported that new models of armored vehicles would be created for the passage of state tests, taking into account the comments of the military.
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  1. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 11 February 2021 14: 33
    0
    Well, that's the state. made it to the finals. only I didn't understand what happened to the DUM?
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 11 February 2021 14: 37
    +8
    Normal option in my opinion?
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 11 February 2021 14: 53
      +4
      And in which divisions to shove him? There is Octopus and that's enough. Better a tower from Vienna, it is necessary and very much. APCs for delivery to the battlefield, not for battle. It should be cheaper. And with a cannon and an MSA, this is an BMP.
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 11 February 2021 18: 16
        +3
        Quote: URAL72
        And with a cannon and an MSA, this is an BMP.

        So in the photo to the article "Boomerang" is depicted with the combat module "Berezhok",
        and he with a 30mm cannon 2A42 - it is presented as an armored personnel carrier (K-16).
        What will then be the standard weapon of the BMP (K-17)?
        1. venik
          venik 11 February 2021 23: 22
          +4
          Quote: Bad_gr
          and he with a 30mm cannon 2A42 - it is presented as an armored personnel carrier (K-16).
          What will then be the standard weapon of the BMP (K-17)?

          =======
          I suspect that there will be a module with a 57-mm gun ... But this is of course exclusively personal speculation... request
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 11 February 2021 18: 38
        +6
        APCs for delivery to the battlefield, not for battle. It should be cheaper

        This is the BTR-82a.
        With a boomerang, it will not be cheaper in any way.
        1. venik
          venik 11 February 2021 23: 34
          +2
          Quote: alexmach
          This is the BTR-82a.
          With a boomerang, it will not be cheaper in any way.

          =======
          In principle, I agree: in any way "," Boomerang "will be more expensive than the 82nd .... drinks But there are also possible options:
          a) - simplified: with a large-caliber machine gun (and possibly ATGM)
          b) - more "advanced": with a 30-mm cannon, coaxial machine gun (and ATGM is also possible);
          c) - powerful: with enhanced armor, 57-mm cannon, machine gun, ATGM and KAZ .....
          d) - other versions are also possible ...
          It's clear that all these modifications (no matter how they call them: armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, etc.), will vary greatly for the price and borrow their niches in the battle formations of troops. It is not for nothing that Boomerang is called the PLATFORM!
          drinks hi
        2. Vlad5307
          Vlad5307 13 February 2021 13: 59
          0
          They will make it cheaper - they will say that it is cardboard and incapable, etc. etc.
      3. svp67
        svp67 12 February 2021 05: 43
        +3
        Quote: URAL72
        And in which divisions to shove him?

        In the Marine Corps, in the assault, in the rear guard units ...
        Quote: URAL72
        There is Octopus and that's enough.

        No, the tracked Octopus has lower operational maneuverability.
        Quote: URAL72
        APCs for delivery to the battlefield, not for battle.
        And who has better armor protection for this armored personnel carrier or BMD?
        Quote: URAL72
        It should be cheaper.

        And the cheapness at the expense of the lives of the soldiers? It is not for nothing that they make it exactly like that, the main thing in it is to ensure the survival of the crew and the landing force, especially in the conditions of the use of IDPs.
        Quote: URAL72
        And with a cannon and an MSA, this is an BMP.

        The "Boomerang" also has such a modification, since the "Boomerang" itself is the Basic Chassis, and what you need, then you install on it making an armored personnel carrier, BMP, self-propelled gun, Tank, ARV, Front-end ambulance, etc. etc...
    2. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 11 February 2021 18: 40
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      Normal option in my opinion?
      And this one?
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 11 February 2021 22: 33
        +2
        Just do not matter. The main variant of the armored personnel carrier, with a minimum BM, en masse in the troops. The next step will be to mount any modules you want.
    3. svp67
      svp67 12 February 2021 05: 36
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      Normal option in my opinion?

      Not really, in any case, a combat module should be installed on top of such a "shed", and the crew should be in the hull
    4. Grits
      Grits 14 February 2021 04: 27
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      Normal option in my opinion?

      The main thing is that you no longer need to invent anything - everything is ready-made and can be assembled in workshops
  3. Emil mamedoff
    Emil mamedoff 11 February 2021 14: 54
    -3
    BTR K-16 is fundamentally new car in the class of armored personnel carriers, designed with a high level of protection, the new transmission and control system.


    This is another matter.
    Otherwise, the old armored personnel carriers, whatever you call them in a new way, still the protection is not the same, especially under the bottom, not to mention the side.

    ps
    I will try to find a video where ours in Karabakh were hit by a double anti-tank mine, a Marauder car, then there is a continuation of the video, how the whole crew got out of this car without a single scratch, the car under the bottom is badly damaged, there are no wheels, but everyone is alive. If they were inside the BTR-82A, well, 90% would be ditched. No matter how formidable this machine may seem, protection is simply nowhere to be found.
    As much as possible, powerful protection for this vehicle, and, if possible, change the entire combat module, along with the 2A72 curve, which shoots crookedly at medium distances, (taking into account also the wheeled chassis) what can I say about long-range shooting ..
    IMHO, albeit with low-speed / single precision shooting, with each projectile hitting the target, than with a curved-oblique burst like with the BTR-82A.
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 11 February 2021 18: 35
      -6
      Quote: Emil Mamedoff
      Marauder car, then there is a continuation of the video, how the whole crew got out of this car without a single scratch, the car is badly damaged under the bottom, there are no wheels, but everyone is alive. If they were inside the BTR-82A, well, 90% would have been ditched.
      You distinguish the APC from the MRAP? And for what tasks are they created? And the fact that the machines should be used for their intended purpose, then the return on them is appropriate.
      1. Emil mamedoff
        Emil mamedoff 11 February 2021 19: 07
        0
        You distinguish the APC from the MRAP? And for what tasks are they created? And the fact that the machines should be used for their intended purpose, then the return on them is appropriate.


        MRAP - Mine Resistant Ambush Protected) in translation - Mine protection from ambush / Protected from detonation, mines and ambushes.
        You are our smartest, MRAP is a protected personnel carrier, i.e. an armored personnel carrier.
        And you, not knowing that, just to argue, and stupidly minus .. All because you need to drink, so as not to get lost ..
        1. Emil mamedoff
          Emil mamedoff 11 February 2021 19: 21
          -5
          need to drink less those
        2. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 11 February 2021 19: 30
          +2
          Quote: Emil Mamedoff
          MRAP is a protected personnel carrier, i.e. an armored personnel carrier.
          And you then hike without knowing just to argue, and stupidly minus ...
          Firstly, when I write my opinion to my opponent, I never put a minus.
          Secondly, MRAP is a police (anti-guerrilla) action vehicle. It is protected in this very direction: from the stones of the demonstrators, mines under the bottom and under the wheel (there are no pro-side ones).
          The armored personnel carrier was created to deliver servicemen to the place of hostilities. And based on the realities of our country, it will move, hardly on the Autobahn. Primers, woods, streams, mud. A mine under the bottom and under the wheel is possible, but unlikely, but getting into the side from a large-caliber machine gun or RPG (if the enemy was able to calculate where help would come from) is for sure. Therefore, the characteristics and protection of an army armored personnel carrier is based on these threats: small arms, RPGs, mines - the same, but not in the first place.

          Quote: Emil Mamedoff
          All because you need to drink so as not to get lost ..
          That is, you are not writing here sober?
          Quote: Emil Mamedoff
          The smartest you are ours
          1. Fmax
            Fmax 11 February 2021 23: 26
            +3
            Well, what place on the 82nd side will a heavy machine gun or RPG withstand?
            1. Runway
              Runway 12 February 2021 02: 27
              -1
              The task of the armored personnel carrier? Place in battle formations? Outpost on the march (bpz in particular)?
            2. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 12 February 2021 09: 03
              0
              Quote: FMax
              Well, what place on the 82nd side will a heavy machine gun or RPG withstand?

              Once upon a time, the side of a tank did not hold a large-caliber bullet. Over time, the means of attack change - the means of defense change. For example, the TZ for the BTR-90 has already indicated that its forehead must withstand the impact of a 30mm projectile (like the BMP-3). Estimate the side protection of the BTR-90 by its door
              I think the Boomerang's board should be at least as well protected + from the inside as an anti-splinter coating.
              Well, DZ (although not often) is already used on this technique, and it is definitely not from the shooter.
        3. Runway
          Runway 12 February 2021 02: 35
          -1
          MRAP is a vehicle of the near rear units for transporting two-legged escort and actions against undead in the occupied territory.
          You confuse lean and insipid.
    2. Runway
      Runway 12 February 2021 01: 00
      +1
      Yours flew in through the stupidity (to put it mildly) of both the immediate and the senior.
      The 30-mm AP is a submachine gun, to give a "spot" of damage to the target. Well, crooked hands also have a place to be, as well as military "geniuses" directing small groups with the task of RO / vanguard in a gray area with traffic on the roads. laughing
      You are in luck with your opponent. Only.
  4. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 11 February 2021 15: 04
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    How does K-16 differ from K-17?
    1. Ilya098
      Ilya098 11 February 2021 15: 10
      +8
      K-16 is an armored personnel carrier, and K-17 is an infantry fighting vehicle. They also have different combat modules.
  5. yehat2
    yehat2 11 February 2021 15: 17
    +4
    What seems to me, or have the design of the boomerang nose been somewhat changed in comparison with the first machines? In addition to lateral sagging, small changes in installation and details
    1. Grits
      Grits 14 February 2021 04: 43
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      Quote: yehat2
      What seems to me, or have the design of the boomerang nose been somewhat changed in comparison with the first machines? In addition to lateral sagging, small changes in installation and details

      Yes. The original version, which rode for the first time at the parade, look - the difference is significant.
  6. Voltsky
    Voltsky 11 February 2021 15: 49
    +1
    old-timers of this project, is he a modular boxer or not?
  7. Andre___86
    Andre___86 11 February 2021 16: 18
    -2
    The screens ask for wheels
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 11 February 2021 16: 20
      +2
      The wheels are screens themselves. But additional protection is provided from ceramic panels.
  8. mark1
    mark1 11 February 2021 16: 28
    +2
    It turns out that the export passport was received before the state tests ... How to sell it!
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 11 February 2021 18: 00
      0
      It turns out that the export passport was received before state tests
      not surprisingly, Western "colleagues" - competitors are running out, the market is narrowing ... so they are trying to catch up if distillations start horizontally!
      The Turks, even amphibious versions are now engaged (American copies of the ACV), such as this:
  9. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 11 February 2021 17: 49
    +1
    On a wheelbase, would it be better?
  10. Redsun
    Redsun 11 February 2021 19: 21
    +2
    When I read about tests, I always ask myself: what have been experienced in technology for 6 years or more? That is, it’s as if it’s clear that after identifying the shortcomings, time is needed for design work, making samples and the like. But this is not a damn spaceship. In the end, some non-critical flaws can be corrected in the course of further modernizations, especially since it will still come out during mass exploitation in the troops, even after all the tests. And new items are needed in the troops for a long time. And if with tanks everything is more or less, then with the armored personnel carrier there is sadness against the background of what NATO is armed with for many years. And what then was shown at the parade in 2015? Running layouts?
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 11 February 2021 19: 49
      0
      Quote: redsun
      When I read about tests, I always ask myself: what have been experienced in technology for 6 years or more?

      I will support this opinion. We would release a small batch and scatter it in different regions of the country, with constant involvement in all exercises. Of course, factory tests cannot be canceled either. The more equipment is simultaneously involved in the operation, the less time it will take to identify all the shortcomings.
      1. Nestor Vlakhovski
        Nestor Vlakhovski 11 February 2021 22: 24
        -3
        Are you ready to give money from your pocket for the production of this small batch?
        Your moral support of hard workers of the military-industrial complex will not feed.
        Once a year, they roll out an experienced audience, and okay, they remind the patriots of themselves, and okay.
    2. Grits
      Grits 14 February 2021 04: 49
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      Quote: redsun
      When I read about tests, I always ask myself: what have been experienced in technology for 6 years or more?

      I'm surprised too. And what did you do before? Standing in a hangar and waiting for an order to start testing? For 6 years of testing, only a dead frame should remain from this apparatus. I remember the new Kalashnikov was tested for 10 years - not at any gate at all - what to experience there? Give the specialists a month - they will arrange such tests for you that in the future test plans can be reduced by several years.
  11. ironic
    ironic 11 February 2021 21: 22
    +1
    Well, the Russian Federation has pulled up to the western concept of a wheeled combat vehicle. Well, and it will not be cheap, but it is more in line with what is happening with the concept of combat today.
  12. megadeth
    megadeth 12 February 2021 10: 13
    -1
    I'm a shit. racket. (in the intricacies of motorized riflemen I rummage "on the runoff as long as") such a thing would also be useful for us on the march along the PBSP, and even when carrying the OBD to the checkpoint. And so in Syria amerikosov drive and butt in the desert. Sometimes you will see how the Turks destroyed the UAVs by the Armenian armored vehicles ..., in short, you need to focus on small attack drones, but we have very few of them, just NO.
  13. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 12 February 2021 14: 33
    +1
    Ya tak ponial, eto 2.perabotaniy variant, tak kak ot 1. MO otkazalos iz za tekhn. i cenovikh prichin.
    Poetomu is Bumerangom takaya voznia.