Robotic complex "Impact" taught autonomous movement on the battlefield

The Udar robotic complex being developed in Russia has gained the ability to autonomously move on the battlefield, as well as interact with drones. Bekhan Ozdoev, industrial director of the armaments complex of the Rostec State Corporation, spoke about this.

The Udar complex was developed by the Kovrov All-Russian Research Institute "Signal" based on the BMP-3. Presented for the first time back in 2015, the complex was able to move around the battlefield autonomously, without operator commands, interact with drones, including a tethered type powered by the complex itself, as well as the ability to work in conjunction with light-type robotic systems. Previously, only remote control was reported.

When developing "Strike", the company's specialists tested the possibility of movement Robot offline. To do this, the complex includes a motion planning subsystem based on sensors and meters. Based on the received data, the route of the robot's movement is formed, while the terrain is taken into account and the parameters of the combat mission can be calculated

- leads TASS words of Ozdoev.

It is specified that when creating the Udar complex, the Signal specialists applied the principle of equipping the BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle with a set of special equipment, which turns it into a robotic complex.

The robotization of the fighting compartments is carried out on the same principle - at the moment, six different fighting compartments are robotized, which were installed on the vehicle.

- specified in Rostec.

Earlier, VNII Signal explained that they did not create a robot from scratch, but developed a unified control system, which, after all the necessary work and tests, in the future can be installed on other standard models of military equipment in service with the Russian army.

Comments

[Ross xnumx]

Perfectly! The most important thing is that when performing a combat mission, the robotic complex in autonomous mode does not confuse the shores.

[rocket757]

The "Udar" complex was developed by the Kovrov All-Russian Research Institute "Signal" on the basis of the BMP-3.

And how long can it be on the battlefield, when in the hands of the infantry / enemy there is a mass of means of destruction of such equipment ???
It is, of course, without a crew, but for no reason / uselessly losing military equipment is not comme il faut ...
Those. the demon of the correct tactics of use is in no way possible.

[Flooding]

Obviously, vehicles of this class will be carried out on chassis of different levels of protection and cross-country ability. In this case, they probably used the volume of the troop compartment for additional. equipment, which at the initial stage simplified and made the sample cheaper.

[qQQQ]

Quote: rocket757

Those. the demon of the correct tactics of use is in no way possible.

You just opened America. And what can you use without the right tactics? Now this complex is becoming similar to a robotic platform, and if only telecontrol, then this is just a cart that does not fundamentally differ from the German times of the Second World War.

[Flooding]

Quote: qqqq

And what can be used without the right tactics?

A missile with a nuclear warhead.

[Dodikson]

and what will she do to the states if she hit the Malvinas Islands?

[Flooding]

difficult to judge. I have never been there or there. remind me, what does the state have to do with it?

[Dodikson]

and despite the fact that this is our most likely enemy. and if nuclear weapons are used, then it is most likely unnatural for them.
and I cited the Malvinas as an example because even nuclear weapons must be used with the correct tactics, otherwise there will be no sense even from nuclear weapons.

[Flooding]

The topic was not nuclear weapons, the topic was the tactics of using weapons in general as such.

[Dodikson]

the theme was that you answered the question "What can be used without correct tactics?"
replied "A missile with a nuclear warhead."
which is wrong, because even a missile with a nuclear warhead must be used with the right tactics

[Flooding]

Nuclear weapons are a strategic weapon.
It is not tactical.
Unless we are talking about especially small charges.
Good luck to you.

[Dodikson]

Well then, try to decipher the abbreviation TNW, and try to tell the military that nuclear artillery ammunition is a strategic weapon.
and that missiles to Iskander (and there are also nuclear warheads), as well as anti-ship missiles and missiles with special warheads, are also strategic weapons.
laugh together.
By the way, it was not about that. but the fact that even strategic weapons are used according to the correct tactics, such as covering the ICBM warheads of industrial areas, accumulations of fuel factories, ports and positioning areas of the enemy's ICBM basing if he has not yet released them (or could have released them if the strike was retaliatory).
in general, you need to bomb even with vigorous rockets with your head, and not melt sand in the deserts of Nevada and Arizona

[Flooding]

You chatter the topic.
Why should I google something about tiao if I wrote above about tactical nuclear weapons? If you like to gossip about anything, then this is not for me.
And a link, please, throw off the information on nuclear warheads to the Iskander. So, for decency.
Although you don't need to have seven spans in your forehead to understand what I wrote about

Quote: Flood

A missile with a nuclear warhead.

[Dodikson]

darkness ....
and what did you write about tactical nuclear weapons?
remind me plz blunt quote of your comment.
otherwise I just read something
"Nuclear weapons are a strategic weapon.
It is not tactical.
Unless we are talking about especially small charges. "

for reference - especially small charges are less than 1kt.

[Flooding]

Quote: Dodikson

darkness ....
and what did you write about tactical nuclear weapons?

Have you already found the link to the Iskander nuclear stuffing?
Not? Seek and do not bother me in vain.

[Flooding]

Quote: Dodikson

for reference - especially small charges are less than 1kt.

Where did you read this? Please provide confirmation of your words.
Otherwise it is of no interest.

[Dodikson]

yes for you materiel is generally not of interest.
I didn't throw off the links, it's not even stupid because of laziness, because everything is found from the first request (for example
https://lenta.ru/news/2020/01/25/iskander/ ) , хотя о чем говорить с человеком который не знает что у противокорабельного Гранита была БЧ в 500кт , а потому что смысла нет что то приводить и доказывать . не в коня корм.
for people like you, if you don't like the opponent's arguments, then links are not links, articles are not articles, "tests are not tests".
communication is stopped because there is no reason and no one.
better approach any member of the forum and ask - and anti-ship missiles or missiles with special warheads is a strategic weapon?

[Flooding]

Quote: Dodikson

communication is stopped because there is no reason and no one.

You will learn how to behave to begin with.
While you showed yourself a boor.
And there can be only one communication with boors - in boorish language.

[Dodikson]

yes, you can answer in boorish.
but in the language of the subject, alas, there is no materiel (((

[Flooding]

Quote: Dodikson

yes, you can answer in boorish.
but in the language of the subject, alas, there is no materiel (((

If you do not know the basic basics of behavior, then what can you know about the materiel?

[Dodikson]

as the dispute showed, much more than you.
Besides, make no mistake, you also don't know a damn about decent behavior.
re-read your posts and try to find there at least some signs of politeness and deference.
a polite person would simply admit that they say yes, he didn’t put it that way, and nothing would happen, but you understand that you are wrong, but you still try to make someone else wrong.
in fact, you are the same boor as I am, just pretend to be decent, but you are neither decent nor educated / literate in the area you are discussing.
and you understand this and it gnaws at you, which is why you are still here.

[Flooding]

Quote: Dodikson

in fact, you are the same boor as I am, just pretend to be decent

This in itself is worth a lot. Restrain yourself when you want something completely different.

Quote: Dodikson

You are neither decent

Try to convict me of dishonesty. Don't make empty sounds.

Quote: Dodikson

nor educated / literate in the field you are discussing.

I am discussing the topic that interests me. Not the one I'm professional at. And this is normal for a forum with a fairly wide range of issues raised. Or is it a surprise to you?

Quote: Dodikson

You understand this and it gnaws at you, which is why you are still here.

I have never avoided communication on questions of interest to me.
And boorish swoops don't scare me away, rather the opposite.
And you see, in addition to everything else, and a psychologist? Or just an overconfident person?
So I will remind you

Quote: Dodikson

communication is stopped because there is nothing and no one

So why are you still here? What's eating you?

[Dodikson]

I'm just laughing here. In fact, I'm a troll.
and by the way, yes, I'm a psychologist by education.
I am looking for such lulz like you to get away with.

[Flooding]

Quote: Dodikson

I'm just laughing here. In fact, I'm a troll.
and by the way, yes, I'm a psychologist by education.
I am looking for such lulz like you to get away with.

I summarize:
a psychologist by training, imagining himself a specialist in weapons.
a boor and a troll by vocation, finding amusement for himself in the search and correspondence with some "lulz".
there is something to think about.

[Dodikson]

Think better over the knowledge of materiel, so as not to disgrace yourself and then even a "psychologist by training, imagining himself to be a specialist in weapons, will not laugh at you."
a boor and a troll by vocation, finding pleasure for himself in the search and correspondence with some "lulz". "

[Flooding]

Quote: Dodikson

think better about the knowledge of the materiel, so as not to disgrace and then they will not laugh at you

it was a pity to spend money on such obvious things. but oh well, I'll spend it. I hate the boons who have learned to use Google, but not intellect.
Iskander is the only link to lenta.ru, and which you have designated as the first one that comes across contains information about the possibility of using nuclear warheads. we have indirect unconfirmed information without specifics.
My note on charges of especially low power did not suit you as a description of tiao, since according to your words, especially low power is less than 1 kt. Despite my request, you have not confirmed your opinion. Well, I did not shmogla so I didn’t. this is your style.
but on the second day of our friendly dive, you finally learned about the missile defense systems equipped with a special warhead. what is interesting is information about the power of such is only for old Granites and only on Wikipedia.
so interesting, you ask?
Yes, because the nuclear equipment of the warhead of operational-tactical, anti-ship and other missiles is a secret behind seven seals. no doubt such weapons are possessed by the world's leading armies, but they are even less known to the general public than the data on ICBMs. because the power of strategic yao is a guarantee and a guarantee of deterrence. while tiao is in many ways a dark horse, darker than all other types of weapons, with the possible exception of bacteriological.
therefore, any mention of Yao means, first of all, and in the second place also precisely its strategic component.
I am glad that thanks to our correspondence you got acquainted with some of the nuances of the question. but do not pass this acquaintance with Google for acquaintance with materiel.
I'll end where I started. I hate boasting. well, and if a boast and a boor in one person ...

[Dodikson]

darkness .... ignoramuses all continue to be clever and try to pretend to be smart.
they do not understand how stupid and pitiful they look from the outside.
they write such pearls

Nuclear weapons are a strategic weapon.
It is not tactical.
Unless we're talking about especially small charges.

and then they try to wriggle like a professional on the client.
lol, given that ignoramuses are predictable like amoeba, I sense that now one ignoramus will prove that especially small is not ultra small, and in general now there is a particularly secret division of nuclear charges at power where there are not small and ultra small, but there are small, especially small, and only then ultra-small.

How is their power measured?

The power of a nuclear and thermonuclear charge is measured in TNT equivalent - the amount of TNT that must be detonated to obtain a similar result. It is measured in kilotons (kt) and megatons (Mt). The power of ultra-small nuclear weapons is less than 1 kt, while super powerful bombs give over 1 Mt.

https://futurist.ru/articles/1162

The power of the explosion of a nuclear weapon is usually measured in units of TNT. The TNT equivalent is the mass of TNT that would provide an explosion equivalent in power to the explosion of a given nuclear weapon. It is usually measured in kilotons (kT) or megatons (MgT). The TNT equivalent is conditional, since the distribution of the energy of a nuclear explosion over various damaging factors depends significantly on the type of ammunition and, in any case, is very different from a chemical explosion. Modern nuclear weapons have TNT equivalent from several tens of tons to several tens of million tons of TNT.
Depending on the power, nuclear ammunition is usually divided into 5 calibers: ultra-small (less than 1kT), small (from 1 to 10 kT), medium (from 10 to 100 kT), large (from 100 kT to 1 MgT), extra-large (over 1 MgT)

https://studopedia.ru/21_48219_moshchnost-yadernih-boepripasov.html

The power of nuclear ammunition is determined by their weight or size, such as the power, for example, of conventional ammunition, and the amount of energy released in a nuclear explosion. This energy is usually compared with the explosion energy of the corresponding amount of TNT. Example: when fission of the nuclei of atoms located in 1 kg. Uranium-235, the same amount of energy is released as in the explosion of a TNT charge weighing 20 tons. In this regard, the power of nuclear weapons is expressed in TNT equivalent. In terms of power, nuclear ammunition is conventionally divided into five calibers:
- ultra-low power up to 1 thousand tons (kt);
-small from 1 to 10 thousand tons;
-average from 10 to 100 thousand tons;
-large from 100 to 1 million tons (mgt);
-super-large over 1 mgt

https://infopedia.su/16xa77c.html


About anti-ship missiles, anti-aircraft missiles with special warheads and an Iskander even look too lazy.
but I'm glad that the ignorant learned that there are such missiles.

then he learns about the fact that nuclear weapons are different, for example hydrogen and actually nuclear (uranium) that there are not only explosive nuclear weapons but also neutron weapons.
oh how many interesting things the ignoramus can learn, but they won't. the fact that they won't

[Flooding]

It flatters you. Why mark with a quote and a font that I wrote literally exactly before your splash of bile?
For you, the problem will remain regardless of the degree of my rightness or wrongness. You are behaving unworthily, but at the same time you puff out your cheeks and take mentoring positions. Why did you study to be a psychologist? Down the drain.

[Dodikson]

lol, the character, instead of admitting that he was inaccurately expressed, began to carry crap in the style of bullshitting "I fso know that you are all stupid", and he again has others to blame.
But I'm glad that he stopped arguing that he and the materiel are incompatible things.

[Flooding]

Are you so dull that an essentially simple thing does not reach you?
I do not admit that I am wrong in front of the boor, this is nonsense.
Ham does not understand any concessions.

Quote: Dodikson

began to carry crap in the style of bullshitting "I know you all are stupid", and he again has others to blame.

I do not pretend to be omniscient in the slightest degree.
Take a closer look at your behavior.

Quote: Dodikson

But I'm glad that he stopped arguing that he and the materiel are incompatible things.

This is the magic word "materiel". You have already crawled it to the holes. Change it to the word "Google". So it will be more truthful.

[Dodikson]

darkness .... professional on client part two ...
Monsieur, at first no one was rude to you, you were asked a simple question, and you are the place to admit that you were inaccurately expressed and began to bullshit.
to bull, all people turn on the boor mode.
because there is nothing to communicate with {cut out by censorship} (I wrote about it cut out by censorship that I can't cover it with obscene expressions).
{cut out by censorship} nothing can be explained, it does not understand the meaning of what is written, and the letters are too difficult for them.
therefore I forget to communicate with you because it is not interesting.
at first it was at least funny, but now I can feel someone's bulging eyes even through the Internet.
by the end
1) even nuclear missiles must be used correctly
2) ultra-small atomic charges are 1kt and below.
3) nuclear charges even of high power are placed not only on strategic weapons
don't thank.

[Flooding]

Quote: Dodikson

darkness .... professional on the client part two.

Add something more weighty to your childish babbling. It is no longer possible to read the same thing. Are you keen on corrupt women? Can I help you financially? Or do you need the help of a colleague on the shop floor?

Quote: Dodikson

Monsieur, at first no one was rude to you

It was like that, I admit.

Quote: Dodikson

You were asked a simple question

Wrong. You were carried by a favorable breeze into completely different matter

Quote: Dodikson

and what will she do to the states if she hit the Malvinas Islands?

Be precise and you will be rewarded. You demand accuracy from others, but not from yourself.

Quote: Dodikson

to bull, all people turn on the boor mode.

Here you go. And what would you like to do with such a citizen? Do not turn into the same insolent hysterics.
And after that you want me to admit that I am wrong?
You are an insolent, boor and boast. That individually you can endure, but in one person - thank you.

[Flooding]

Quote: Dodikson

lol, the character, instead of admitting that he was inaccurately expressed, began to carry crap in the style of bullshitting "I fso know that you are all stupid", and he again has others to blame.
But I'm glad that he stopped arguing that he and the materiel are incompatible things.

Do you not notice the illogicalism in this short commentary of yours?
"Inaccurately expressed" means knowledge of the subject, but imprecise formulation.
While ignorance of the materiel means not mastering the subject in principle. In this case, you cannot express yourself inaccurately, you can express yourself incorrectly and incorrectly.

[Dodikson]

Logically you probably had a count.
to write "inaccurately expressed" does not mean that it was really imprecise
besides, one can express inaccurately even without owning the object.
for example, not knowing how the cabinet furniture is tripled, you can blurt out "I'll lie down at the door."
or not groping in construction equipment blurt out "let's dig a pit with this truck crane."
from this series of comments "for the use of a nuclear missile, the correct tactics are not needed"

[Flooding]

Quote: Dodikson

to write "inaccurately expressed" does not mean that it was really imprecise
besides, one can express inaccurately even without owning the object.
for example, not knowing how the cabinet furniture is tripled, you can blurt out "I'll lie down at the door."

Launched case. An imprecise expression presupposes an imprecise formulation of a correct thought. Goodbye, let's keep a safe distance.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Flood

A missile with a nuclear warhead.

Yes, it is first of all necessary to use tactically competently.

[Flooding]

Quote: qqqq

Yes, it is first of all necessary to use tactically competently.

What does it mean? Disguise correctly on the ground? Cover the enemy with crossfire? Do you understand the difference between tactics and strategy?

[qQQQ]

Quote: Flood

What does this mean?

This means correctly determining the time, place and method of delivery.

[Flooding]

Quote: qqqq

This means correctly determining the time, place and method of delivery.

The defense doctrine clearly stipulates the use of nuclear weapons only in the form of a retaliatory strike.
The very specificity of the exchange of nuclear strikes requires the fastest possible response.
For predetermined goals. Everything. No tactics. It's a matter of survival or retribution.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Flood

The defense doctrine clearly stipulates the use of nuclear weapons only in the form of a retaliatory strike.
The very specificity of the exchange of nuclear strikes requires the fastest possible response.
For predetermined goals. Everything. No tactics. It's a matter of survival or retribution.

All this is true, only with regards to the first strike. But if the question is about the exchange of limited strikes and (or) the transition to the phase of a protracted war, then it is here that tactical nuclear weapons come to light together with the tactics of their use.

[Flooding]

Quote: qqqq

All this is true, only with regards to the first strike. But if the question is about the exchange of limited strikes and (or) the transition to the phase of a protracted war, then it is here that tactical nuclear weapons come to light together with the tactics of their use.

When I mentioned missiles with nuclear warheads, I had tactical yao in the last place. But with this caveat, I agree with you.

[Al_lexx]

Screw a couple of pieces to the "Armata", as a kind of BMPT, so that, in addition to a remote operator, receive a control center from the tank commander and vice versa, if the operator of this pepelatsa saw something on the battlefield. IMHO it will be normal. And with a boomerang it could not look bad. In the city, to support the infantry, it can also come in handy.
It’s clear that with the advent of such a technique on the battlefield, we need a reliable and simple system for identifying friend / foe.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Al_lexx

It’s clear that with the advent of such a technique on the battlefield, we need a reliable and simple system for identifying friend / foe.

Most likely, it will work in autonomous mode where there are no own, and where there is a risk of friendly fire under the control of the operator.

[mark1]

Yeah - they'll drop it by parachute into the very middle of the enemy army, and then the drum-cam program will say in such a circle and go to shoot the enemy.)))

[Dart2027]

Quote: mark1

Yeah - they will drop by parachute into the very middle of the enemy army

That is, you can't say anything smart?
The task of such machines is to go ahead of manpower and guided armored vehicles, opening up the enemy's defenses and taking a blow on themselves, like in a UAV.

[mark1]

There are so many of us, smart people, gathered here (who seem to have nothing to do) that we want to dilute the intense brainstorming with some kind of funny nonsense

[Ros 56]

And few people were put out of friendly fire directly from their own, without the use of any robots?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Ros 56

from their own, without the use of any robots

This, of course, happens, but a person is still more reliable.

[military_cat]

On the contrary, there is nothing more unreliable than the human factor. The person is simply more familiar (and can also be punished, which calms the sense of justice).

[Dart2027]

Quote: military_cat

On the contrary, there is nothing more unreliable than the human factor.

This machine is designed to work in the field, where both tanks and infantrymen may find themselves. How to equip each soldier with a friend or foe system? The question is, and a mistake is expensive. There was talk that all the troops on the battlefield should be united into a single network, so that everyone will know exactly where the others are, then of course the conversation will be different. But it seems that this has not been done yet, so for now the operator will be more reliable ..

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Dart2027

How to equip each soldier with a friend or foe system?

How does the system of remote reading money from your credit card or smartphone work?
So here, only the distance is greater. Technically, this is absolutely solvable.

There was talk that all the troops on the battlefield should be united into a single network, so that everyone will know exactly where the others are, then of course the conversation will be different. But it seems that this has not yet been done ...

Everything has been done for a long time. It is just that the introduction and saturation of the troops does not occur immediately and suddenly.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Al_lexx

How does the system of remote reading money from your credit card or smartphone work?

I am not an expert, but if this system is still not debugged, then there are difficulties.

Quote: Al_lexx

Everything has been done for a long time. It is just that the introduction and saturation of the troops does not occur immediately and suddenly.

May be. If so, then it will be easier.

[Al_lexx]

General ...
..pardon))
Are you clean and worn out, or essentially what to say?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Al_lexx

Are you clean and worn out, or essentially what to say?

And you?

[qQQQ]

Quote: Al_lexx

It’s clear that with the advent of such a technique on the battlefield, we need a reliable and simple system for identifying friend / foe.

Most likely, the operator will give permission to open fire.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: qqqq

Most likely, the operator will give permission to open fire.

Most likely according to the situation. In certain situations, the operator's reaction speed is clearly not enough. I mean situations where there are no civilians, who do not have a system of identification of theirs / foes. In any case, the real experience of using such a technique has not yet been accumulated. And without any doubt, in the process of its accumulation, the cases may be different.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Al_lexx

Most likely according to the situation.

I disagree, it's not even a matter of civilians, there is always a probability and it is quite high that the system of one's own / another's for any reason will not be functional either for humans or for a robot and give the AI ​​the right to kill, this is a very high risk that with the same probability will bring down both friends and foes. It's not worth it, operator, with a well-built interface, everything will do everything quickly and reliably.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: qqqq

I do not agree ...

Dear cuckoo.)) You just don't understand how it works. And then I can't do anything about it. Don't settle for health. In any case, everything (absolutely everything) that one person has done can be broken by another person. And to discuss it, just shake the air in vain. However, three-quarters of these shakers spend their time here.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Al_lexx

important cuckoo.)) You just don't understand how it works.

But where do we go to high matters. Essentially have something to say?

[Al_lexx]

Quote: qqqq

But where do we go to high matters.

Expected.

[Ros 56]

These devices are certainly good, but what happens, for example, if the program crashes? But won't this iron kaput begin to chop everyone to the right and to the left, both ours and others?

[Runway]

The statement said that the tractor can now paddle on the ground without a remote control by a person.
There is no question of using weapons independently.

[FrankyStein]

You can set the area of ​​work, no further than it, and no manpower can enter. It was cool to minimize such things in size, attach a thermal imager, a machine gun, put them on their feet so that they could run fast and climb everywhere, rivet in thousands and to the front line.

[Tektor]

This already looks like the technique of a new war. Respect to the developers!