Military Review

Troubled summer of 1943. No, 2021

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Photo: press service of the Babushkinsky district court


The trial of Navalny, who insulted the veteran of the Great Patriotic War, will continue on February 12. I did not plan to write about this process for a simple (but important for me) reason. This vile and cowardly man has already shown his insides. Hysterical and coward. The very small squad who bully the elders, knowing that there are adults behind who only need a reason to fight. Scum it is scum.

But you can't run away from life. How not to hide from a specific smell, passing by a pigsty of a farmer. It is not for nothing that the pig is often called the closest related (by the internal structure of the body) creature to humans. I do not know if this is exactly. But the fact that the stench of this animal perfectly stimulates the foot pressing the gas pedal in the car is true.

It was this stench, or rather the act of the little "bully" who insulted the veteran, that made me not "press the gas pedal", but, on the contrary, slow down. And think about the future. About the future of this young individual, and about his own, and his parents, and the country, finally.

Where from? Why? How was it allowed?

How it was


First about the incident.

And here we will have to return to the trial of Navalny. Those who somehow touched this action, probably, like me, experienced a feeling of some filthiness of everything that was happening. The creature from the cage verbally crap on the war veteran, and in his face and on my grandfathers. And I can't do anything. And the judge cannot. And everyone who is present at the trial cannot. Law!

A partisan of the Great War, a colonel of the Soviet army, a cavalier of military orders, 95-year-old Ignat Artemenko justifies himself in front of scum, and talks about what he really fought ... Justified! And "this", in a cage, laughs. Like, a crazy old man ... And you can't hit this in the face. Law. Like this? Me and millions of descendants of the winners are sling mud and nothing?

And then I saw a video on the Internet. Little scum spits and urinates on the back of her own 90-year-old grandfather. No, this grandfather did not participate in the war. He survived it, it is part of his childhood. And the funeral was part of his childhood. And a neighbor without an arm is part of his childhood. And Aunt Zoya, a small, thin woman from a neighboring apartment who survived the Leningrad blockade. But

"Meat does not grow to me after the blockade"

was her saying until her death.

Then I saw the comments on this video.

Absolutely cynical, mocking, written in full confidence that nothing will happen to anyone for it. Comments of those same girls and boys, whose great-grandfathers, like Ignat Artemenko, at their age went to fight the enemy of their Motherland. Some are the sons of the regiment, some are sent to the boy's school in Solovki, some are partisans, some are sent to factories and factories to replace their parents at the machines.

I remember how my grandmother told me about the Battle of Kursk. No, not about how ours and the Germans fought. Not about the exploits of soldiers and officers. My relatives did not see this. We sat in the village cellar. Grandfather saw. He fought a few kilometers from home. But I could not reach him. The bullet or shrapnel was not fired. So my grandmother told how they buried the dead soldiers. How, sorry for the details, they sorted ours and the Germans who burned near tanks... As a mother, a 6-year-old girl at that time, collected her arms and legs on the field ... It was their war ...

We live in different countries


Yesterday I specially met with several people. They are completely different in social status, education, political views, and age. I was only interested in one thing, how to relate to this? What happened to make great-grandchildren such a mess?

You know, after these meetings, I felt sad.

Once again I was convinced that we are not united. We live in the same territory, we talk about the Motherland, we shout about our love for our native spaces, but we live in different countries. Exactly. Probably tough. But, I repeat, we live in different countries, in different Russia. Someone, in general, lives in the USSR ...

Why did I make such a conclusion for myself?

In relation to the video about filth, opinions, as usual, were divided. From

"Shoot the reptile"

to

"Well, the kid wanted to hyip in front of his friends."

It’s not easy to describe all the punishments.

No, though. I will describe one of my feelings.

I talked with veterans. No, not the Great Patriotic War. With young, 35–40-year-old war veterans. Men who got into a military meat grinder as a boy from the well-fed childhood of a peaceful country. I have not heard a clear answer to what needs to be done with these scum. But I saw my eyes.

Considering that the bulk (no, jackals) roam in flocks, one by one they are completely different, "decent" children, I just imagined what could happen if these two groups meet. Some play the struggle for freedom, but they really mock those who are weaker or more cowardly. And the latter know very well that victory is not when the enemy retreated, but when the enemy is destroyed. And they know how to destroy the enemy and are always ready for this.

If we summarize all the statements of my interlocutors, we get a completely predictable picture. Ideology and the inevitability of punishment for crimes are needed. The only difference is what this ideology should be.

What kind of Russia do we live in now?

This is not an idle question, it directly concerns each of us and those very descendants whom we are ready to punish today with the most terrible punishments. Many people simply do not think about it. Any politician declares about the restoration of the USSR - and immediately a ring of like-minded people will form around him. Will declare the European way - the same история... Even Stalinism will give a similar result.

We are ready to cling to each other's throats, defending the correctness of our own views. I see this picture quite often when reading comments to my articles.

So what?

After all these verbal battles, does something change in the views of your opponents? Best case scenario,

"Let's end the argument"

in the majority, however, they slip into insults to each other.

Note, it is not men with 8-9 grade education somewhere in the taiga remote places who are arguing. There is no time to argue. You have to plow there. Educated and well-mannered people argue. Most of them work and earn money with their heads.

We are strangely reluctant to notice the simple details of our lives.

What determines the essence of the state system? The laws by which society lives. No matter how we beat ourselves in the chest, telling everyone about our own political and other views, the state will either re-educate you (isolate, destroy, etc.), or expel you from its territory. Legal!

During the Yeltsin period, we adopted many different laws. Lots of. We destroyed the education system and destroyed upbringing. We have abandoned everything Soviet. We even renounced our Russianness. Through the adopted laws! Accepted and valid now! And the disputes we are having are the level of kitchen conversations, nothing more.

It is impossible to build a new state in a state (pardon the pun), which lives by different laws! It is impossible in a state where personal freedom of citizens is declared one of the values, to force a person to obey any moral or ethical standards. It is impossible to build a socially just society where private property is sacred. You can create an American or North European version of "War Communism", nothing more.

Mining is easy, but demining ...


There will be a trial over the creature that deserves to be in the cage today. I don’t think they will send him somewhere, he will sit in Moscow for his own safety. Those who are accustomed to rebelling in warm weather will calm down.

The jackals, about whom I wrote above, may receive a hat from teachers and the public, let out snot and be forgiven. We are a merciful people. In May, the "excavation" of compromising materials on candidates for the State Duma will begin. We will discuss with interest whether it is fake or not. Life will calm down.

But the problem remains.

It's like in economics. Some owner of an agricultural holding Vasya Pupkin lost a billion due to a drop in demand for meat during Lent! Sorry for Pupkin. And then another message. The agricultural holding has increased the supply of grain due to an increase in demand for a billion! Pupkin is great, he had a presentiment of the economic situation. And in the end, the livestock breeders, whose wages were cut, suffered.

Today we are on the verge of major changes.

Either we change the state, through the abolition of the laws of the 90s, or they break our backs and turn us into

"European, democratic state, professing universal human values."

Either we remain Russian, or we become "Europeans." Not geographically, but spiritually.

And then all our conversations, all disputes and disagreements are quickly leveled by "Europeanly correct" laws.

And the opinion of the people?

We know perfectly well how it is formed. The overwhelming majority quickly accepts the opinion of the crowd they find themselves in.

“People are not fools. If they support, then there is something in it. It's just that I don't understand something yet ... "

The troubled summer of 1943 is coming ... July is coming ...
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  1. aars
    aars 12 February 2021 11: 04
    +6
    Pointless article.
    Who is it all for?
    Where is the target audience?
    Shouted, heaped up a bunch of words, but where is the exhaust?
    Purely for self-complacency, such scribbling will roll on the drum ...
    1. Civil
      Civil 12 February 2021 11: 10
      +26
      Either we remain Russian, or we become "Europeans." Not geographically, but spiritually.

      Come on, the Russian Elite will remember the existence of the Russian people. And stop robbing him.
      In May, the "excavation" of compromising materials on candidates for the State Duma will begin.

      What to dig there? It was necessary to think when anti-people laws were passed, such as raising the retirement age, introducing new taxes and fees, etc. This is still people are not aware of the "European" property tax this year. There will be a universal scandal when the tax authority will sue everyone for non-payment without warning.

      Nobody cares about Provalny. The problem is the impoverishment of the people.
      1. aars
        aars 12 February 2021 11: 13
        +9
        Quote: Civil
        The problem is the impoverishment of the people.
        Absolutely agree!
        Even of the protesters, Navalny is fully trusted by much less than half.
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 12 February 2021 11: 22
          -3
          I will be original and assume that the video with urine, comments on it and discussion, the author simply invented. Even much less provocative videos on the Internet did not pass in this way unnoticed by anyone except in passing in one article.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 12 February 2021 11: 33
            +9
            The Olympics and the World Cup were held, the disagreeable were "closed", the books were being burned, the leader of the nation was proclaimed in the toilets as a result. The hour is uneven, some will start raising their hand.
            1. ZAV69
              ZAV69 12 February 2021 19: 35
              0
              Quote: lexus
              They proclaimed "noisy" in the toilets.

              Did you personally vote in the toilet or on a tree stump?
              Which objectionable ones were closed?
              What books were burned?
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 13 February 2021 12: 04
                +6
                But this book will surely be burnt soon, for it describes the essence of today's Russia. Here is an excerpt from "Dunno on the Moon" - 1964, now you can safely change the name to "Dunno in Russia":
                "- And who are these policemen? - asked Herring.
                “Bandits!” Said Spikelet in exasperation. - Honest
                word, bandits! The real duty of the police
                - protect the population from robbers, in
                in reality, they protect only the rich. AND
                the rich are the real robbers. Only
                they rob us, hiding behind laws that they themselves
                come up with. And what, tell me, the difference, according to the law
                Will they rob me or not by law? I do not care!
                - Here you are somehow wonderful! - said Vintik. - Why
                you obey the police and even these ... how do you
                call it rich?
                - Try not to listen here, when everything is in their hands: and
                land, and factories, and money, and in addition weapons!
                1. ZAV69
                  ZAV69 13 February 2021 12: 42
                  -1
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  Here is an excerpt from "Dunno on the Moon" - 1964, now you can safely change the name to "Dunno in Russia":

                  I read it 40 years ago, no need to quote. When they burn, then we'll talk.
            2. 210ox
              210ox 18 February 2021 17: 44
              -1
              Dear author is completely right. But who will dismantle these cannibalistic laws by which we live? Putin? Yes, he serves according to these laws. By the way, A. Staver, if my memory serves me right, warmly supported the guarantor. Where is the logic?
          2. cost 75
            cost 75 12 February 2021 11: 55
            +9
            This video has even been shown on TV.
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 12 February 2021 14: 02
              +8
              Yes, indeed, I did, thanks. The prosecutor's office even started checking, I missed something on this news. Those who committed this, of course, were scum without question, and I suspected the author of the article in vain.
          3. Andre___86
            Andre___86 12 February 2021 12: 24
            +5
            There is a video. I saw it personally. You can search the net.
          4. bk316
            bk316 12 February 2021 12: 46
            +1
            I will be original and assume that the video with urine, comments on it and discussion, the author simply invented.

            No, I saw it myself.
        2. I do not care
          I do not care 12 February 2021 20: 51
          0
          it's not about bulk, people are sick of the system itself. the author -> the author -> the author is imbecile, in the last 2 paragraphs-3 mutually exclusive conclusions.

          I, without a mat, can not translate this nonsense.
          sorry, I got my education in another country. at home.
      2. Destiny
        Destiny 12 February 2021 11: 19
        +13
        Quote: Civil
        This is still people are not aware of the property tax this year.

        We do not live on the moon, why not in the know, in the course. In 2021, the basis for the calculation will finally be the cadastral value of the object, which is close to the market value. Before this, the calculation was based on the inventory value of real estate or its cost. an increase in the amount of payments for property tax. According to experts, the increase may be 20-40%. I agree, besides the bulk of the problems in the country, but let him answer for insulting a veteran, you cannot open your mouth to anyone who is sacred.
        1. Civil
          Civil 12 February 2021 11: 38
          +1
          We do not live on the moon, why not in the know, in the course. In 2021, the basis for the calculation will finally be the cadastral value of the object, which is close to the market value. Before this, the calculation was based on the inventory value of real estate or its cost. an increase in the amount of property tax payments. According to experts, the increase may be 20-40%

          That's it experts assess How should the people pay? The tax office is not obliged to send the calculations, so everything will automatically go to the magistrates' courts. However, terpily in their repertoire will swallow in silence.
        2. sleeve
          sleeve 12 February 2021 11: 43
          -7
          40%? This is what turns out from 800 to 1100 per year for 12 acres? Probably a lot? For a year ... No, if someone has 12 million of them for construction, then probably a lot.
          1. Civil
            Civil 12 February 2021 12: 10
            +8
            Quote: sleeve
            40%? This is what turns out from 800 to 1100 per year for 12 acres? Probably a lot? For a year ... No, if someone has 12 million of them for construction, then probably a lot.

            The cadastral value was set to the maximum, by area. It turns out that a pensioner who lives in his unsightly house in the city on the outskirts will receive a payment at the level of an elite house in a closed suburban cottage village. And for the land where he grows his own food the poor will receive the full.
            1. bk316
              bk316 12 February 2021 12: 47
              -5
              it turns out a pensioner living in his unsightly house in the city on the outskirts -

              This is if he has a house of 1000 squares. Have you forgotten the deductions?
              1. Civil
                Civil 12 February 2021 14: 12
                +6
                Quote: bk316
                This is if he has a house of 1000 squares. Have you forgotten the deductions?

                And that a pensioner should live in a hostel? Deductions only for 50 meters of living space, and have nothing to do with land
                1. bk316
                  bk316 12 February 2021 15: 32
                  0
                  Doesn't apply, but your logic somehow suffers. See what you write:
                  It turns out a pensioner living in his unsightly house within the city on the outskirts - will receive a payment at the level elite house in a closed suburban cottage village.

                  In reality, the pensioner will receive 2 payments.
                  One for the land is really the same as in the cottage village.
                  Another for the house and this payment will be a spear in comparison with the payment to the owner of the cottage.
                  What do you want? I don't even really understand. WHAT would the cadastral value of land depend on which house is on it, or even on the owner? Clarify please.
                  1. Civil
                    Civil 14 February 2021 09: 05
                    0
                    Quote: bk316
                    What do you want? I don't even really understand. WHAT would the cadastral value of land depend on which house is on it, or even on the owner? Clarify please.

                    There should be taxes on income, and not squeeze the latter and force pensioners to live in a hostel. This actually means genocide. Treating the elderly like animals.
                    1. bk316
                      bk316 14 February 2021 21: 08
                      0
                      do not squeeze the latter and make pensioners live in a hostel

                      This is gross propaganda. Shame on you? I asked a specific question how to administer the tax, what would be yours, and you mean I need to be healthy and rich. Ugh.... am
                      1. Civil
                        Civil 15 February 2021 06: 47
                        0
                        Quote: bk316
                        I asked a specific question how to administer tax what would be yours

                        The answer was clear. According to the average annual INCOME.
                      2. bk316
                        bk316 15 February 2021 11: 42
                        0
                        According to the average annual INCOME.

                        Did I understand correctly that the amount of tax on the same property will depend on the owner's average annual income?
                      3. Civil
                        Civil 15 February 2021 11: 54
                        0
                        Quote: bk316
                        Did I understand correctly that the amount of tax on the same property will depend on the owner's average annual income?

                        Of course, if there is nothing to pay with, this is not a reason for retired people to be forced to live in social shelters, and not in the housing that he built (saved money to buy) all his life. Or, God forbid, a person has lost his health, that he also sell an apartment, a house due to a drop in income? And so it turns out - the state does not need the waste material. Disabled people (benefit only for 1 object and then at the rate) and pensioners (benefits at the rate). Because of such prospects, not only young people will want to leave. But middle-aged people are at risk of losing everything they have acquired.
                      4. bk316
                        bk316 15 February 2021 12: 05
                        0
                        It is clear that you have 2 points here.
                        1. Subsidized tax for the poor.
                        2. Calculation of real estate tax from the owner's income.

                        The first is already being applied, but the principle itself is dangerous, it is a hard push into the shadows.
                        Think for yourself why pay tax on a castle, a porsche and a yacht if you can pretend to be a rogue, and for this all you need to avoid personal income tax.
                        The second has already been canceled, everything is simply rewritten to relatives, and their income is minimal.

                        Your proposal could be accepted like all similar ones, but this is if you go from controlling income to controlling expenses. Want to?
                        But they don't do that all over the world. Think for yourself, could a retiree grow cucumbers in Central Park in Manhattan?
                      5. Civil
                        Civil 15 February 2021 14: 55
                        0
                        But they don't do that all over the world.

                        Don't lie! Income taxes are taken into account everywhere. I'm talking about sane countries.
                        Porsche and yacht if you can pretend to be a rogue

                        We are talking about millions of people who own houses and plots with them. Who has no money to pay such TAXES for them.
                        No need to answer. I didn't write to you.
      3. BIABIA
        BIABIA 12 February 2021 11: 40
        +18
        I will concretize. In short. Now QR codes are being introduced for dairy products. This is so that every carton of milk, for example, has this code. We take smart, read and receive complete information about this product (date, time of bottling, etc.). I imagine a conventional grandmother with a smart reading this garbage. Rave. And the cost of equipment for applying such information ranges from 800 tons. up to one and a half million euros, Karl! It is a fact! Such figures are voiced by suppliers (for work related to the production of packaging). If we don't find money, the plant will be closed. And the codes are provided by Rospotrebnadzor. 50kop. with EACH package. And there are hundreds of millions of them a month! Who needs it? The question is rhetorical ...
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 12 February 2021 13: 21
          +35
          Quote: BIABIA
          I imagine a conventional grandmother with a smart reading this garbage. Rave.

          Brad now! After mom's funeral, we are trying to get payments from the pension fund and social security. Both structures are on self-isolation - reception is only by appointment through the State Services, but in these services there is no appointment to them, as there are no later departments themselves. Personal reception is impossible, therefore, old people and non-old people without the Internet do not even have a theoretical opportunity to enroll in the Pension Fund and Social Security, although there is no practical opportunity to get there. And the coronavirus is to blame for everything! laughing
          Another thing is interesting! Those structures that should give people money for the so-called isolation, and those structures that are obliged to take money from people - work without isolation request
        2. Dante Alighieri
          Dante Alighieri 13 February 2021 08: 50
          +1
          And the codes are provided by Rospotrebnadzor.

          You are a little deluded. Rospotreb cannot provide any codes, and even more so for money. This is a federal body and it does not deal with commerce. He can only impose fines for administrative offenses in terms of non-compliance with sanitary and epidemiological legislation, including for lack of labeling. Moreover, the levied fines go into the budget, and not into the pocket of the management (although it is clear that the efficiency indicators and, as a result, financing for the next year depend on the size of the collection of these), so Rospotreb is not interested in additional pressure on the business - he has enough other tools to fulfill his duties. The aforementioned, the same product codes are assigned by the so-called Operator of the information monitoring system, which is Operator-CRPT - a subsidiary of the Center for the Development of Advanced Technologies, the chairman of the board of which is a certain Mikhail Andreevich Dubin, a former executive director of MegaFon (2012-2015) and CEO Yota (2015).
          It is there that one must look for the initiators of this surah. Rospotreb in this scheme is on the far left. Obliged to check for codes - they will check where to go - state. service, do what is ordered.
          Imagine a conventional grandmother with a smart reading this garbage

          And this is no longer for grandmothers, but for retail, tk. all "cones" if the product is not labeled, or the labeling shows that the product has expired - there will be them.
      4. Nicola
        Nicola 12 February 2021 12: 22
        +19
        What does Navalny and bulk have to do with it? No one disputed the facts of gigantic corruption posted by Navalny on YouTube. With the documents as it should. But they said face-to-face and, as if from a cornucopia, articles about Navalny fell down. What scum he is and an agent of the CIA, Mossad, MI-7, etc. arrests. N. N. Platoshkin is closed, Bondarenko was fined and openly talk about criminal prosecution, Grudinin ends up bankrupt. And many other names who dared to criticize his native state a little bit. Like many others, Navalny himself is not a leader and not a role model .But, the country is not being destroyed by Navalny. The constitution must be impeccably observed by the leaders of the state. And this is a social state; -free medicine ; - free education ......... The whole current situation gave rise to such an attitude towards people and veterans, including (the poorly educated youth). If nothing is further changed in the state, it will be worse than in Libya and other African countries.
      5. neri73-r
        neri73-r 12 February 2021 12: 25
        -9
        Quote: Civil
        Come on, the Russian Elite will remember the existence of the Russian people. And stop robbing him.

        In the elite, by the way, there are no more than 1% of Russians, but even this is not the main thing, the main thing is that the entire elite, what we have, what they have, is international! And their main god is money, at any cost, including at the expense of the people. The GDP is trying to do something there, but they do not give it, there is a complete sabotage.
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 12 February 2021 13: 36
          +19
          Quote: neri73-r
          The GDP is trying to do something there, but they do not give it, there is a complete sabotage.

      6. Ros 56
        Ros 56 12 February 2021 12: 59
        .
        You say impoverishment, but the French were beaten in 1812 by soldiers and peasants all entirely well-to-do, and in 41-43 the Germans were also beaten by the rich. Lie and don’t lie, it’s just that this scum wasn’t brought up, and it picked up all sorts of nonsense from the box and the Internet. No guys, it's not about material wealth, but about moral ugliness. There are parents, children, not children, I went to, I went to, and when you tell them - you are stunned, and they answer - and what is it.
        1. Civil
          Civil 12 February 2021 14: 25
          +5
          Quote: Ros 56
          No guys, it's not about material wealth, but about moral ugliness.


          And here everything is together, and moral degradation, and khataskraism, and the slave breed of slave brought out by hundreds of years of serfdom, impoverishment. And some Russians spread rot against other Russians, with the hands of third Russians.
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 13 February 2021 09: 44
          0
          No guys, it's not about material wealth, but about moral ugliness. There are parents, children, not children, I went to, I went to, and when you tell them - you are stunned, and they answer - and what is it.
          exactly, just recently, young people were building here: they really started to be rude to the remark about inadmissible behavior, in total - after the words about the lawsuit from this youth ..., one jab and a slap on the head from my side and silence, grace and sweetness wink ! There is no other way, even my wife supported me, although she is a principled Christian believer and a kind-hearted person ... but she did! winked
      7. New Year day
        New Year day 12 February 2021 13: 12
        +34
        Quote: Civil
        The problem is the impoverishment of the people.

        But it's easier for the authorities to blame Navalny for everything
      8. bk0010
        bk0010 13 February 2021 09: 30
        0
        Quote: Civil
        The problem is the impoverishment of the people.
        Yes to hell with poverty. The problem is that those who make the people poor get richer. And they get rich precisely because the people are getting poor. They steal from losses, taxes and fines, and not from profits. Because of this, the country is degrading. There will be a revolution - they will lose the most, but they continue to steal. And they will not be able to escape, and not so much because the revolutionaries will first of all seize not the telegraph and telephone, but airports (not a single business jet will take off) and border crossings, but because they will be handed over to those countries to which they were going to run away (no, if one of them settled in Cote Divoir, then there are chances, but not in Europe or North America). (There should be a quote from Lavrov)
      9. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 14 February 2021 02: 04
        +1
        Stop lying. The problem of the impoverishment of the people is your problem. I am 50-60, my wife is 25 ... you can live without grieving, given the fact that I am not in Moscow.
    2. Nasrat
      Nasrat 12 February 2021 11: 12
      -8
      Quote: aars
      ... such scribbling is on the drum ...


      The main navalnats now have no time for discussions at all - they are engaged in the "struggle for the throne" of the main oppositionist .. Zhinka, not in vain, drove the disgraced to Frankfurt .. wassat
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 February 2021 11: 30
        -4
        Quote: Nasr
        The main navalnats now have no time for discussions at all - they are engaged in the "struggle for the throne" of the main oppositionist .. Zhinka has not in vain gone to Frankfurt from disgraced.

        In, in! A guy is being sent to the "krytka" today, but she is not there to see her beloved and kiss her on the cheek, she walks around germaniums. No jacket to try on flew - "papulkin".
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 13 February 2021 09: 46
          0
          A man is sent to the "krytka" today, but she is not there to see her beloved and kiss her on the cheek, she runs around germanium
          well, maybe they have it that way, such roles in the family ... laughing Husband behind bars, wife out of the house and walking ... wink
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 13 February 2021 11: 18
            -2
            Quote: Intruder
            Husband behind bars, wife out of the house and walking ...

            Loot went to the west to collect.
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 12 February 2021 11: 12
      +9
      Quote: aars
      Pointless article.
      Who is it all for?
      Where is the target audience?
      Shouted, heaped up a bunch of words, but where is the exhaust?
      Purely for self-complacency, such scribbling will roll on the drum ...

      I agree .. I would also add why so much attention is not paid to Platoshkin? Navalny, of course, done well .. but he has crammed the entire information space. And about Platoshkin, in general, silence ..
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 12 February 2021 11: 16
        +3
        I will assume that Platoshkin is not involved in supporting the special services of the West .. Otherwise, Inosmi would have been full of his photos ...
        1. sleeve
          sleeve 12 February 2021 11: 43
          0
          Duck, what about Platoshkin then?
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 12 February 2021 13: 08
          +8
          Quote: Nasr
          I will assume that Platoshkin is not involved in supporting the special services of the West .. Otherwise, Inosmi would have been full of his photos ...

          That's it. Platoshkin is our man, a Russian patriot .. Freedom for Nikolai Platoshkin!
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 12 February 2021 14: 18
            0
            Quote: Svarog

            That's it. Platoshkin is our man, a Russian patriot .. Freedom for Nikolai Platoshkin!

            I can't say anything about this person ... I don't know anything about him ...
            1. Aag
              Aag 13 February 2021 17: 50
              0
              Quote: Nasr
              Quote: Svarog

              That's it. Platoshkin is our man, a Russian patriot .. Freedom for Nikolai Platoshkin!

              I can't say anything about this person ... I don't know anything about him ...

              Maybe that's why the entire information field is being slaughtered by Navalny, so that fewer people know about Platoshkin?
              ... And ... Something is not heard about those who issued an oval passport, who did not take measures to arrest him after repeated violations of the regime ... Did these officials act on their own initiative, or did they not act?
          2. Intruder
            Intruder 13 February 2021 09: 48
            +1
            Freedom for Nikolai Platoshkin!
            When do we go out to feed the pigeons this Saturday or next !? laughing
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 12 February 2021 11: 26
        +10
        I talked with veterans. No, not the Great Patriotic War. With young, 35–40-year-old war veterans. Men who got into a military meat grinder as a boy from the well-fed childhood of a peaceful country. I have not heard a clear answer to what needs to be done with these scum.

        Do you know this guy:
        https://topwar.ru/85228-dvazhdy-vyzhivshiy-ili-naperekor-smerti.html
        Being invited to a meeting with the journalist A. V. Karaulov, he spoke on the problem of Navalny and how the head of state should have dealt with him, who for some reason does not hang around with the Russian oligarchs who robbed the country.
        Watch the moment from 5:35 (there is about Navalny and what should have been done with him initially)

        But what worries me more is the fate of N.N. Platoshkin is a man who is known by millions of Russian citizens and whose fate is completely indifferent to the current government.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 12 February 2021 11: 34
          -2
          Quote: ROSS 42
          But what worries me more is the fate of N.N. Platoshkin is a man who is known by millions of Russian citizens and whose fate is completely indifferent to the current government.

          I support your words.
          1. domokl
            12 February 2021 16: 13
            -3
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: ROSS 42
            But what worries me more is the fate of N.N. Platoshkin is a man who is known by millions of Russian citizens and whose fate is completely indifferent to the current government.

            I support your words.

            So write about this person. Express your opinion. If fate worries him. Or is it more convenient in the kitchen? ..
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 12 February 2021 17: 28
              +3
              Quote: domokl
              So write about this person. Express your opinion. If fate worries him. Or is it more convenient in the kitchen? ..

              Thank you, I would write, but still they will not understand, those who do not want it.
        2. Clear
          Clear 12 February 2021 11: 46
          -6
          Quote: ROSS 42
          I talked with veterans. No, not the Great Patriotic War. With young, 35–40-year-old war veterans. Men who got into a military meat grinder as a boy from the well-fed childhood of a peaceful country. I have not heard a clear answer to what needs to be done with these scum.

          Do you know this guy:
          https://topwar.ru/85228-dvazhdy-vyzhivshiy-ili-naperekor-smerti.html
          Being invited to a meeting with the journalist A. V. Karaulov, he spoke on the problem of Navalny and how the head of state should have dealt with him, who for some reason does not hang around with the Russian oligarchs who robbed the country.
          Watch the moment from 5:35 (there is about Navalny and what should have been done with him initially)

          But what worries me more is the fate of N.N. Platoshkin is a man who is known by millions of Russian citizens and whose fate is completely indifferent to the current government.

          Oh, not Rutskoi "to fall off the chair."
          I remember how he, being the governor of the Kursk region, for $ 5 million through his Moscow road construction companies, he turned the central street of Kursk into a country road, and then explained that the shrinkage of the earth was to blame for everything.
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 13 February 2021 10: 36
            -2
            Turn off your fan and clean your shovel. What are the Moscow DSK? What is this nonsense? Vladimir does not steal a penny, the wrong person. With an inner core, a real Russian warrior.
            1. Clear
              Clear 13 February 2021 16: 57
              +1
              That's right, myself
              Quote: Essex62
              Turn off your fan and clean your shovel.
              1. Essex62
                Essex62 14 February 2021 09: 43
                0
                I have always treated you with respect and in many ways shared your views, but in this case, it just infuriated me. Do you have the facts? I was with this man under fire of counter in 93m, really since that time he has changed so much that he became like those hucksters against whom we fought then?
                1. Clear
                  Clear 15 February 2021 10: 39
                  +2
                  Quote: Essex62
                  I have always treated you with respect and in many ways shared your views, but in this case, it just infuriated me. Do you have the facts? I was with this man under fire of counter in 93m, really since that time he has changed so much that he became like those hucksters against whom we fought then?

                  If you come to me, then I answered exactly the unrestrained
                  Quote: Essex62
                  Turn off your fan and clean your shovel.

                  About Platoshkin, I'm ready to discuss the rules defined by the VO forum.
                  1. Essex62
                    Essex62 15 February 2021 16: 53
                    0
                    I'm not talking about Platoshkin. I'm talking about the Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander Vladimirovich Rutskoy and supposedly five lamas, cut paper by him out of the budget of Kursk. I affirm, this is not possible in principle.
                    1. Clear
                      Clear 15 February 2021 19: 10
                      +2
                      Quote: Essex62
                      I'm not talking about Platoshkin. I'm talking about the Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander Vladimirovich Rutskoy and supposedly five lamas, cut paper by him out of the budget of Kursk. I affirm, this is not possible in principle.

                      God grant that it would be as you say.
                      Personally, I have nothing against Rutskoi and respect him for his heroic past in military affairs.

                      At the same time, I would like to draw your attention to the statement of the press service of the governor of the Kursk region:
                      The Investigation Directorate for the Central Federal District of the Investigative Committee under the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia issued a resolution on the prosecution as an accused under Art. 286 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (abuse of office) of the former governor of the Kursk region, Alexander Rutskoi.

                      According to the investigation, when he was the head of the region, he illegally received credit funds in the amount of 35 billion non-denominated rubles from Parex Bank, which left an unkind memory of itself in our region.

                      request
                      Source: http://www.dddkursk.ru/number/469/new/000432/
                      1. Essex62
                        Essex62 17 February 2021 17: 09
                        0
                        The investigative department of the bourgeois power of the usurpers and their enemy? Are you serious? You believe? Honestly, I didn't expect it.
                      2. Clear
                        Clear 17 February 2021 19: 32
                        +3
                        Quote: Essex62
                        The investigative department of the bourgeois power of the usurpers and their enemy? Are you serious? You believe? Honestly, I didn't expect it.

                        Maybe usurpers, bourgeois, enemies ... I don't know request ... You know better. I don’t even ask you for links to confirm these facts.
                        But, I don’t understand why the military officer Rutskoi, like Gromov and Lebed and Shamanov, would get into dirty politics and the economic-economic sphere, like the governorship? What for? The child understands that in politics there are no rules of the game, but only lies, deception, a budget feeder ... You will not wash yourself off.
                        And all these generals, as a result of their activities in the governors, only lowered their rating and reputation.
                        Is not it?
                      3. Essex62
                        Essex62 18 February 2021 11: 35
                        +1
                        A reference to the cold civil war in the Russian Federation? O omnipotent tyrnet ... As you all used to refer to or believe published on the network, taking it for the truth.
                        People like Rutskoy have a rating on a percussion instrument. If they take up something, because of their active and humane essence, they hope to change people's lives for the better. It is difficult for you, brought up on the principles of gaining profit, what bourgeois society is built on. By the way, the people seemed to elect him as governor, then it was still so. While the clamps did not shut off the oxygen to the remains of democracy.
                      4. Clear
                        Clear 18 February 2021 19: 02
                        +4
                        Quote: Essex62
                        As you all used to refer or believe published on the net, taking it for the truth.
                        Well, give the case materials confirming the opposite.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        People like Rutskoy have a rating on a percussion instrument.
                        This proves once again that a good military man is rarely a good politician. Rating, in politics, is an important tool. It must be handled carefully. Many got burned by his manipulation.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        If they take up something, because of their active and humane essence, they hope to change people's lives for the better.
                        That's exactly what "hope ...". And, you need economic knowledge, experience and economic ingenuity ... the same collective farm chairman. It will not work "... to report to 18-00 on the execution of the order ..."

                        Quote: Essex62
                        It is difficult for you, brought up on the principles of gaining profit, what bourgeois society is built on.
                        Adeksander, well, honestly, filter the market. I did not offend you.


                        Quote: Essex62
                        By the way, the people seemed to elect him as governor, then it was still so. While the clamps did not shut off the oxygen to the remains of democracy.
                        Well, yes, the people chose, but the clips were blocked. It means that he, as a politician, lost. So you yourself confirm the beginning and the result, of military people, in politics.
                      5. Essex62
                        Essex62 19 February 2021 10: 44
                        +1
                        Do you agree with the main principle of socialism, the prohibition of personal enrichment? The majority of the left, on the website, are Social Democrats and deny such a measure. Further restrictions on big capital, but with the preservation of private bakers, hairdressers, farmers do not go. And this is a half measure, this is no longer socialism.
                        And I did not think of offending you, I am harsh as a Bolshevik, forgive me if by accident ... love
                        I won't say about the rest of the generals in politics, but a person who was vice-president of a huge country in the economy is not a teapot.
                        He's not a boot for a long time, he studied and studied. Believe me, Rutskoi is economically savvy. Only our reality has nothing to do with, even with the classical Western economic model. Byzantium's. And yet you agree that he was devoured and framed. How our conversation actually began. True, from the harshness of my part, once again sorry hi
                      6. Clear
                        Clear 20 February 2021 12: 40
                        +5
                        Quote: Essex62
                        And yet you agree that he was devoured and framed.
                        Sasha, Sasha, well, we are talking about the same thing. I say that according to the military concept, it's the same as with a rifle on tanks!

                        Quote: Essex62
                        Believe me, Rutskoi is economically savvy. ... a person who was vice-president of a huge country in the economy is not a teapot.
                        I believe, but he, in this economy, was contaminated once or twice. Where are the calculated and correct countermeasures of himself and his associates, the party, like-minded people ...? request

                        Quote: Essex62
                        Do you agree with the main principle of socialism, the prohibition of personal enrichment?
                        I, for any, boil over, with a high economic potential of the country and prevention of a fall in morals.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        And I did not think of offending you, I am harsh as a Bolshevik, forgive me if by accident ...
                        It happens. Greetings to the Bolsheviks! love
                      7. Essex62
                        Essex62 21 February 2021 10: 31
                        0
                        Yes, we were all contaminated. The model, where man is everything, was changed to cut paper, everything. It is now too late to take countermeasures, it has become established and overgrown with power and legislative elements. Do not approach.
                        For example, the Constitutional Court confirmed the abolition of the presumption of innocence in the issue of fines for traffic violations. Yesterday they announced the figure, 80% of the collected fines, and this is 113 billion rubles for 20 years, went to private traders. Absurdity, violation and commercial activity. Instead of prevention, creating conditions for violations, signs, markings, etc. And this, in all areas, is complete. This is not our government, not the people's. And people like Rutskoi were squeezed out of her so as not to interfere with robbing. You have at least three formations, in the 90s that grew out of the gangster redistribution of Russia, your laws.
                        Companions are, there is no party and will not allow creation. Lessons learned from the last century.
        3. Andre___86
          Andre___86 12 February 2021 12: 27
          -4
          What kind of Platoshkin?
      3. Clear
        Clear 12 February 2021 11: 29
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        I would also add why so much attention is not paid to Platoshkin? ... there is generally silence about Platoshkin ..

        To whom are the claims? Write about Platoshkin every day, like Tattra about "enemies of kommunistov", can discuss and make similar claims request We have a free forum.
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 February 2021 11: 33
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        Navalny, of course, done well .. but he crammed the entire information space.

        So the media only eat "hot" stuff, you can cut the dough, but they won't get that much for Platoshkin.
      5. Yaroslavl
        Yaroslavl 12 February 2021 12: 08
        +11
        but it is not profitable for them to cover those for whom the people can really follow ... they have chosen a convenient sacrifice for themselves and will now hammer on it, leading people away from problems, once, for the second time, leaving real leaders in the shadow ... why are they silent about Platoshkin, he has been sitting for more than a month, they are silent about the rolls on Bondarenko ... they are silent ... they only shout about Lech ... how it is profitable for them and they shout
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 12 February 2021 13: 13
          +7
          Quote: Yaroslavsky
          but it is not profitable for them to cover those for whom the people can really follow ... they have chosen a convenient sacrifice for themselves and will now hammer on it, leading people away from problems, once, for the second time, leaving real leaders in the shadow ... why are they silent about Platoshkin, he has been sitting for more than a month, they are silent about the rolls on Bondarenko ... they are silent ... they only shout about Lech ... how it is profitable for them and they shout

          hi And there is!
      6. bk316
        bk316 12 February 2021 12: 54
        -7
        I agree .. I would also add why so much attention is not paid to Platoshkin?

        Well, you give the oval so much attention.
        Your Lexus colleague drowns hundreds of comments on him.
        I dare to assume this because the loot is loaded. And nobody pays for Platoshkin.
        And why and because the one who pays does not need what would be better, even hypothetically, what would be worse.
        And by the way, no socialism or mythical social justice is needed either.
        Therefore, it is written in the article
        The overwhelming majority quickly accepts the opinion of the crowd into which it falls.


        Have you already accepted?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 12 February 2021 13: 19
          +10
          Quote: bk316
          Well, you give the oval so much attention.
          Your Lexus colleague drowns hundreds of comments on him.

          Show commentary where Lexus drowns for Navalny. Lexus is against this government, not for Navalny. I hope you understand the difference.
          And why and because the one who pays does not need what would be better, even hypothetically, what would be worse.

          But I agree with these. Platoshkin is a real national leader, and of course, Westerners and their vassals in Russia want to quietly get rid of Platoshkin ..
          The overwhelming majority quickly accepts the opinion of the crowd into which it falls.


          Have you already accepted?

          Something I did not notice .. there are a lot of polls on YouTube, from protest rallies .. there were not many people left for Navalny. Basically, they got out of the lawlessness that the authorities fix. And people directly say .. that there is no attitude to Navalny .. but got the chaos. So don't pile up ... horses .. people ..
          1. bk316
            bk316 12 February 2021 14: 25
            0
            Show commentary where Lexus drowns for Navalny.

            What do you think, when Lexus supports a fake film. Doesn't it drown?

            Something I did not notice .. there are a lot of polls on YouTube, from protest rallies .. there were not many people left for Navalny.


            Svarog, well, you are not a scientist, but you are already an adult, you are interested in stories.
            Well, let's think - drop the grievances.

            What is the ratio of the leaders (organizers) of the protest and the disaffected? 1 in 100? 1 in 1000?
            So it has always been, heating up discontent pouring water into the mill organizers protests. Here, after all, the main thing is to lead. Examples from Russian history are not enough for you, well, look at modern Ukraine. Those who protested against the thieving Yanukovych now live under Nazi marches and are afraid to utter a word. Do you want to live like this?

            Look what you are doing bulk lies - you support him because against the government.
            They write you an article about the danger of bulk goods - you instantly transfer the topic to the sins of the authorities.

            Suppose your business won and the bulk withdrawn millions.
            Then he either came to power or the power suppressed him harshly.
            In both the first and second cases, both Platoshkin and, in general, all lovers of socialism will come under the most severe pressure. You will at least not be allowed to write on the Internet what you are writing now, you will see how the oval plugs the mouths of the same slepakov. He has no power, but when will he? You support a protest when their leader is an unprincipled vile type (and how else to regard chatting from Nazis to an apple) who is sponsored by special services and immigrants (do you have any doubt about that?). What are you hoping for?
            1. Yaroslavl
              Yaroslavl 12 February 2021 14: 29
              +2
              but it is possible like this? I do not support bulk, but I support the film) can you?
              1. bk316
                bk316 12 February 2021 15: 39
                0
                but it is possible like this? I do not support bulk, but I support the film) can you?

                The fact is that the film is drawn - it is a cartoon.
                Navalny says believe it will. If you do not believe the bulk you will not be able to believe the cartoon. belay
            2. Svarog
              Svarog 12 February 2021 14: 38
              +10
              Quote: bk316
              Suppose your business won and the bulk withdrawn millions.

              Bulk and not close to my business .. and hell he will bring millions .. no need to catch up terribly .. Inflated Lenin from the blogger .. So you make a hero with your fears from the bulk .. The power is maddened by fear and this is obvious .. Although they could act otherwise .. but in this case, they would begin to lose elections in all constituencies .. And the socialists would come to power and come to power .. After thinking, they just decided to get rid of everyone at once .. one was put on another criminal case ..
              And then ... well, good. What do you suggest to be silent? What suggestions?
              1. bk316
                bk316 12 February 2021 15: 37
                -3
                .Blatter Lenin from a blogger ..

                Well, I don’t know about Lenin, he was originally a figure, but about Aloizych they also said so. Nowadays big money decide a lot, but they will send the money.

                And then ... well, good. What do you suggest to be silent? What suggestions?

                Well, well that's good. Personally, I don’t know what to do and I follow the rule if you don’t know what to do, don’t do anything. I was taught this laughing
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 12 February 2021 15: 58
                  +6
                  Quote: bk316
                  Well, well that's good. Personally, I don’t know what to do and I follow the rule if you don’t know what to do, don’t do anything. I was taught this

                  laughing good Cool rule. I agree with the rule. And actually, I also live on it .. Only to the topic of bulk is it what side? I don’t support him, and moreover, I wrote here as that I will not go to the rally, basically because this rally is held under the flag of the bulk .. But the authorities must be criticized, the pressure must be increased .. without him..
                  Look, our political system is paralyzed .. not even that way .. it is not. There are a bunch of people who have seized power and do not allow anyone to shoot at it .. I mean now Platoshkin .. and any other party, be it popular. opposition and would have an interesting agenda, they will not let you in .. And what does this really mean? Unlawful retention of power, violation of the Constitution ..
                  They are already wiping up in dollars .. yes, do something for the people, for the future of Russia .. no .. little everything .. they eat in three throats .. they see the population is dying out, the economy is collapsed, like everything else .. but they grabbed a stranglehold. ...
                  And how can you be silent?
                  1. bk316
                    bk316 12 February 2021 16: 19
                    +3
                    But the authorities must be criticized, the pressure must be increased ..

                    Yes, in principle, I agree, but the main thing is
                    - criticize the case
                    - do not bend the stick
                    Look at the Lexus, he reacts negatively to any positive news. Moreover, he either does not read the article or does not understand. Right now he is doing this in an article about turbines.

                    And we also need to be a realist, there will be no socialism in this country during our lifetime, the course will be shifted to the left, well, progressive personal income tax, public sector employees will pay more to strengthen the role of the state in the economy, even nationalize something. It is yes to fight for this, but for socialism it is pointless.

                    And in general, I think that it is not necessary to criticize the GDP on the Internet, but to keep the local authorities in good shape. Power is not only the president, it is also mudeps and even school directors ...
                    And the smaller the official, the more tyrant he is.
                    Well, this is of course my opinion.
            3. Kushka
              Kushka 12 February 2021 22: 35
              +3
              Those who protested against the thieving Yanukovych now live under Nazi marches and afraid to utter a word.[i] [/ i]
              Are you writing from the moon? So Rogozin said that he was not flying yet.
              Or did Solvya and Kissel reconsider? Who's afraid of whom?
              Sixth president in a row! On the fifth 26 cases! Maybe cocktails
              Molotov is not thrown out the window - they cover it with an open mat on every corner
              and through one TV channel. Yanyk, as the last mongrel skidded at night
              with her whore. It will be needed - and this clown will be in the dump
              (like Yushchenko in the apiary). No one here is afraid of anyone
              (I've lived here for 70 years). The Nazis under the bunk - where is Tyagnibok, Farion,
              Lyashko? - in the ass! Yes, it was at their finest hour as much as 7%.
              But! What does it give and to whom (do not care)? The answer is nothing to anyone!
              the result:
              1. There is an American democracy - the President felt
              trainee for hitting the court (in which he lost all
              their money, the last hearings were in debt to their lawyers)
              2. There is a Belarusian (let's say) democracy - did not go out for bread
              in time, the deaf-mute "chanted" slogans - on trial.
              3. There is a Ukrainian democracy. YOU CAN RUN TO POWER,
              ON THE PRESIDENT BY MAT FROM MORNING TILL EVENING - YOU DO NOTHING
              WILL NOT BE.
              BUT!!! AND A THIEF TO THE PRESIDENT, PRIME, OLIGARCH
              ALSO NOTHING WILL HAPPEN!
              Look at VR - the other day Deputy Rabinovich yells to the speaker - a fascist,
              you'll die! And he sang "Get up, huge country .." So what? And the "fascist" is alive
              healthy (and how healthy too!) Is this called a "peep"? And the speaker is like
              did not hear! And the prosecutor, you see, dozed off. Mer Cherkassy, ​​on the central
              TV in plain text, video by video, has been sending the president for a year!
              Is this called making a peep?
              So what? (measures are not afraid of the President of the country, the President put on
              measure, for Cherkasy and for everyone else).
              Who was killed, who was imprisoned, who was beaten, who was fired? Who will win
              fears? Well, from what finger did you suck it - about making a sound?
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 13 February 2021 10: 10
                +1
                1. There is an American democracy
                well, not everywhere and not always ..., last year, somewhere in Central California, I don’t want to write a city (because it’s not democratic to attract attention ...), Russian Hills, black and rainbow democrats decided to walk through the streets of "our district ", they were escorted by the county and sheriff's patrol cars at a safe distance and without attracting attention, so cute and democratically American just laughing , bearded guys who spoke Russian well (although there were half of the Ukrainians and Belarusians there), they were greeted in curries and with legal "toys covered behind their backs" so as not to get into the videos to the black democratizers, a volunteer detachment, such as the defense of law and order streets of their area, they explained in words that they were not expected here and advised not to walk the streets in this area at night, they turned and walked around the area ... and truncated! laughing and in three months in that area, there was one attack on a store in total ... the effectiveness of democracy in one of the former Confederate states is evident, although the gun laws in it are among the toughest in the United States ...
                1. Kushka
                  Kushka 13 February 2021 18: 55
                  0
                  "No kissing with green frogs" - understand
                  amerikantsev- do we need it? In some state in a bar
                  the drivers drink. And you can, behind the wheel, right? You can, they say.
                  Our sheriff allows, if quietly, in the extreme right
                  row, home and bainki (!!!). I don't remember which prez they were, but his
                  the security service overdid it and radically changed the order
                  traffic on the streets around the White House. Residents of Washington,
                  went to the rally and announced that the residence of the President of the United States
                  is a great honor for our city. BUT, if this k ... z ... lu
                  (name of rivers) we do not like it, let it fall on all four sides!
                  And we will live as we see fit! And everyone ROLLED BACK.
            4. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 13 February 2021 11: 25
              -2
              Quote: bk316
              Look what you are doing bulk lies - you support him because against the government.
              They write you an article about the danger of bulk goods - you instantly transfer the topic to the sins of the authorities.

              They forgot the hedgehog, and 30-year-old children do not even remember that all this happened already when the USSR was falling apart. Ukraine is a real last confirmation, although recently the same scenario was used in Belarus, and the bulkheads are also from the same opera.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 12 February 2021 17: 38
          -2
          Quote: bk316
          And nobody pays for Platoshkin.

          Of course, charged minuses are put when we intercede for Platoshkin, and when we oppose the "gulfikfuehrer".
    4. aleks neym_2
      aleks neym_2 12 February 2021 11: 16
      -1
      Exhaust. usually, from the back side ... but this stench is quite enough for you ...
    5. Essex62
      Essex62 12 February 2021 11: 23
      +14
      What do you need to be off the hook? So that the civil war from a sluggish, cold turned into a hot one? And why only navalnyats, it is not only about them, about them, to the least extent, with these already everything is clear. We are talking about fasteners covering the Mausoleum with plywood, eradicating all Soviet and grabbing, grabbing, eating in three throats when it is not busy with screams about the Naglosak threat and patriotism. Patriots are worthy and someone else's cut, colored paper. Publication, this is already an action, this is not talk in the kitchen
      1. aars
        aars 12 February 2021 11: 31
        +1
        Quote: Essex62
        about them, to the least degree
        Lost a whole generation to the West, okay?
        Do you seriously think so?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 12 February 2021 12: 21
          +2
          Quote: aars
          Lost a whole generation to the West, okay?
          Do you seriously think so?

          What does the West have to do with it? We ourselves have exactly the same state ideology as in the "West". The ideology of consumerism. How are we different from them?
          1. veritas
            veritas 12 February 2021 21: 48
            +6
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            and where does the West? We ourselves have exactly the same state ideology as in the "West". The ideology of consumerism. How are we different from them?

            Nothing. All the same. Maybe only from us they steal more and do not pay attention to the laws, but only those who steal. The common man cannot afford to ignore the laws. And every year they become more and more anti-national, by the effort of people's choices.
      2. Snail N9
        Snail N9 12 February 2021 11: 35
        +19
        H'm. "Insults" and "slander" - say ... Good. Then the question is: 1-how to call those who "drown" for their employer, justifying their pay from him? 2-what to call those who go to vote on the list or for the "food package"? 3-how to call those who were communists, having awards and merits of the USSR, and now follows those who carry out their activities under the "tricolor" and the coat of arms with tsarist regalia, spitting on the "Moral Code of the Communist" ?, 4-how to call those who were in the CPSU and then threw out their party cards to stay at the trough and become who they are now? 5- What to call those who swore allegiance to the USSR on the Red Flag, and then "swore allegiance" to the new government under the "Tricolor"? etc. etc.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 12 February 2021 11: 53
          +8
          Quote: Snail N9
          H'm. "Insults" and "slander" - say ... Good. Then the question is: 1-how to call those who "drown" for their employer, justifying their pay from him? 2-what to call those who go to vote on the list or for the "food package"? 3-how to call those who were communists, having awards and merits of the USSR, and now follows those who carry out their activities under the "tricolor" and the coat of arms with tsarist regalia, spitting on the "Moral Code of the Communist" ?, 4-how to call those who were in the CPSU and then threw out their party cards to stay at the trough and become who they are now? 5- What to call those who swore allegiance to the USSR on the Red Flag, and then "swore allegiance" to the new government under the "Tricolor"? etc. etc.

          What should you call them? Double dealers!
    6. Clear
      Clear 12 February 2021 11: 35
      0
      Quote: aars
      Shouted, heaped up a bunch of words, but where is the exhaust?
      Purely for self-complacency, such scribbling will roll on the drum ...

      What matters is what goes
      The trial of Navalny, who insulted the veteran of the Great Patriotic War,
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 12 February 2021 11: 46
        +14
        Quote: Clear
        What matters is what goes
        The trial of Navalny, who insulted the veteran of the Great Patriotic War,

        And when will they call to account those who, under the guise of veterans, are promoting their wishlist to change the constitution? Who exposes an elderly and well-deserved woman to ridicule by writing a stupid appeal that does not correspond to reality?
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 12 February 2021 12: 29
        +9
        What matters is what goes
        like Zhenechka Vasilyeva, they will also be tried for a long time, and then quickly released. And then human naivety is ridiculous. Nobody thinks that the authorities insult the veterans by hiding the Mausoleum on May 9. And then suddenly people who worship Solzhenitsyn, Mannerheim were worried about the veteran. Oh well...
    7. ALARI
      ALARI 12 February 2021 11: 52
      +4
      For nobody. One is working off Western grants, another here has worked out a small grant for our government. And he and these look to the west. The difference is one thing lately there to the west it hurts and then they do not let, but just want passion.
    8. Gardamir
      Gardamir 12 February 2021 12: 17
      +6
      Who is it all for?
      Obviously now, every writer, more or less, should be noted in the bullying of the bulk. But this is not a bullying of the bulk, this is a loyal article, like hey, you are up there, you see how I irritated the bulk, I'm for you, throw me a cookie.
      Just like in the 30th meeting of labor collectives ...
      1. aars
        aars 12 February 2021 12: 20
        +2
        Rather, in the 80s ...
        And with exactly the same effect on the team.
    9. New Year day
      New Year day 12 February 2021 13: 08
      +25
      Quote: aars
      Pointless article.
      Who is it all for?

      For the layman. Monologue about nothing
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 12 February 2021 13: 39
        +9
        Absolutely correct remark - such "accusatory" articles are a kind of obligatory "loyal" proof of loyalty, absolutely necessary for being in "certain" circles, at a certain "job". In China, for this purpose, a system of "social" rating has been adopted, but here it is for now ... But nothing, soon we will have it, "like in China" ... true, only in terms of limiting the rights and freedoms of citizens and control over their every step ...
    10. for
      for 12 February 2021 19: 22
      +1
      Quote: aars
      Pointless article.

      Oh, on bulk for a long time and many will warm their pens. He would have been forgotten long ago if the media did not remind him.
      1. veritas
        veritas 12 February 2021 21: 50
        +4
        Quote: for
        Quote: aars
        Pointless article.

        Oh, on bulk for a long time and many will warm their pens. He would have been forgotten long ago if the media did not remind him.

        That's for sure. It is very beneficial for someone to divert attention from pressing problems towards the enemy.
    11. Icarus
      Icarus 12 February 2021 19: 26
      +11
      The trial of Navalny, who insulted the veteran of the Great Patriotic War, will continue on February 12.
      The creature from the cage verbally crap on the war veteran, and in his face and on my grandfathers.

      Why is it meaningless. This is another propaganda article.
      In general, the veteran in the video, which "criticized" the accused "creature", did not talk about how he was partisans, but campaigned for changes to the Constitution. If my grandfather, God forbid, would agitate people for these changes to the Constitution (the emergence of life-long senators (aristocracy), the nullification of the president's terms (non-change), etc.), I would have ceased to respect him, despite the past services to Fatherland. I am not making excuses for Navalny, but the veteran also does not evoke feelings of compassion, since he got into a dirty business - politics, count himself smeared himself persuaded to act).
    12. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 13 February 2021 01: 05
      -2
      American investment bank Morgan Stanley has announced that now is the time to invest in Russian assets.
      Moscow. February 5th. INTERFAX.RU - EU High Representative for International Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell congratulated Russia on the successful completion of the Sputnik V vaccine tests and expressed the hope that it will be certified in the European Union.
      ---------
      Liberators in the west have already changed their shoes
      but the locals still haven't realized that it's time. wassat
      That a pot doesn't cook without a manual?
  2. iouris
    iouris 12 February 2021 11: 12
    +3
    This inappropriate pathos drowns the meanings. In fact, everything is simple: a historical rift ("either - or").
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 12 February 2021 11: 37
      +4
      Either we remain Russian, or we become "Europeans." Not geographically, but spiritually.

      I'm afraid that restoring Russian spirituality is not shaking the stench out of my pants. Neither figuratively nor physically. Only chaos can be built on destroyed values.
      Either we change the state, through the abolition of the laws of the 90s, or they break our backs and turn us into ...

      According to the laws, we must live in the USSR and not recognize either the EBN Constitution or the redistribution of property. Above is the video, everything is very intelligible and popular there. Not even from couch experts. yes
      1. domokl
        12 February 2021 16: 27
        -3
        Quote: ROSS 42
        I'm afraid that restoring Russian spirituality is not shaking the stench out of my pants. Neither figuratively nor physically. Only chaos can be built on destroyed values.

        I disagree with you, colleague. Personally, I can already see the seeds of this recovery. While the spiritual. Even the young. But the laws that still work and the economic relations that we created in the 90s inside and outside the country need to be changed. In principle, I thought about this when I wrote
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 12 February 2021 11: 47
      +5
      Quote: iouris
      This inappropriate pathos drowns the meanings. In fact, everything is simple: a historical rift ("either - or").

      A worthy replacement for Viktor Kamenev at VO.
    3. Overlock
      Overlock 12 February 2021 13: 51
      +24
      Quote: iouris
      In fact, everything is simple: a historical rift ("either - or").

      once again ...
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 12 February 2021 11: 14
    +7
    Either we change the state, through the abolition of the laws of the 90s, or they break our back
    And who will repeal these laws?
    A rhetorical question ...
    Or maybe those who did?
  4. prior
    prior 12 February 2021 11: 17
    +7
    "Troubled summer of 1943."

    No, perhaps December 1991 .....
  5. BAI
    BAI 12 February 2021 11: 20
    +9
    1.
    collected her hands and feet on the field ... It was their war ...

    To this day, the soldiers lie there, in the fields sown with agricultural crops. They find it every year.
    2.
    bulk (no, jackals) roam in flocks, one by one they are completely different, "decent" children,

    And behind them is the future. Like it or not. Because Now there is nothing and no one to oppose them, and when the current government physically dies out (no one is eternal, and there is more and more a picture similar to the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU in 1980, the retirement age is officially extended to 75 years - this is agony! , they will quietly take the vacated seats.
    1. saigon
      saigon 12 February 2021 12: 55
      +5
      Yes, the matter is not in the reserve;
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 12 February 2021 13: 29
      +29
      Quote: BAI
      And the future lies behind them.

      There is a growing youth who does not know the USSR, the Second World War, who looks at the world with their own eyes. But as the former Minister of Education Fursenko spoke about them! - "we must grow the consumer". Why should the authorities now blame the mirror if ...
    3. domokl
      12 February 2021 16: 30
      0
      Quote: BAI
      To this day, the soldiers lie there, in the fields sown with agricultural crops. They find it every year.

      Do you think the soldiers were buried in special graves by village women? There were enough funnels. Here they lie ... And after the war, the hills were naturally plowed ... And the burnt tankers were not even sorted ... All charred and in black overalls ...
  6. maksbazhin
    maksbazhin 12 February 2021 11: 21
    +11
    Too much attention to Navalny. Is it a fear of power? After all, they would not be afraid, there would be no such articles. The economy is in ... opera, and they write about bulk am
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 12 February 2021 12: 31
      +3
      Too much attention to Navalny
      Just a handy character to distract from real problems in the country.
      1. saigon
        saigon 12 February 2021 12: 57
        +4
        But the fact is that distraction from problems is not successful.
        Problems do not go anywhere but do not distract and new ones appear and the split in society is strong.
        Everything that reminds me is vague.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 12 February 2021 13: 30
      +22
      Quote: maksbazhin
      Too much attention to Navalny. Is it a fear of power?

      Precisely fear. If your "Navalny" were in Belarus, then where would Lukashenka be now
  7. aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 12 February 2021 11: 22
    -8
    Thank you for the article .. Although someone will tell the truth: but who will hear it?
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 12 February 2021 12: 49
      +10
      in talk shows on the first channels of such articles (broadcasts) a dime a dozen - they discuss who spat on whom and urinated for a day, in all the details
    2. domokl
      12 February 2021 16: 32
      -5
      Quote: aleks neym_2
      .Although someone will tell the truth: but who will hear it?

      You heard. Isn't that enough?
  8. avia12005
    avia12005 12 February 2021 11: 23
    +11
    Without repression, all this is idle chatter. Stalin is ripe to the root. The elite must be cleaned.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 12 February 2021 11: 27
      +9
      Quote: avia12005
      The elite must be cleaned.

      This is not an elite, this is an elite! am
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 12 February 2021 13: 31
      +28
      Quote: avia12005
      The elite must be cleaned.

      The fish rots from the head, but they clean it from the tail .... for some reason.
  9. V1er
    V1er 12 February 2021 11: 25
    +5
    Neither the state nor parents are raising young people now. Children are often left to themselves and are raised by the Internet. And all social networks, YouTube, belong to Americans and are in the top in bulk. And in social networks in a young environment, propaganda goes easier on a fragile brain, there is no seriousness and decency there. They push into a naive head whatever they want and it is accepted. And of course, billionaires in the same social networks with a beautiful life and ladies finally finish it off. When you see how father and mother, working as teachers and doctors, earn a penny and barely survive.
    1. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 12 February 2021 12: 31
      +10
      Quote: V1er
      Neither the state nor parents are raising young people now. Children are often left to themselves and are raised by the Internet.

      Um ... Don't you think it's not just the internet? Here's a simple example. From my own life. We walk in the summer with our daughters, we go to the forest. And the eldest asks - ma, why is the fence blocking the road here? And the fence really crawls out about 3 meters, leaving from the street, albeit the outskirts, on the border with the forest, and not even the street, but its last piece, but still not the road, but the path. And what should I answer to my daughter? Fantasies to fantasize? It's not mine. She answered very truthfully. That this is the site of the judge's aunt. Which has not scored on the laws, only for the reason that she personally has nothing to score. But the court, from a neighbor across the very path, still won. Amazing, right? The judge and suddenly the court won? laughing Not in such words, of course, explained, in more um ... Soft. And children are curious creatures. And they see / hear sooooo much. And if by "don't educate" you mean the lack of pumping in style - yes, this uncle is a thief, but he is a good thief, patriotic, you listen to him as a family, but that uncle is a bad thief, he did not obey the uncle of a patriotic thief, here is his kid , well, then yes. Personally, I don't educate. And I'm not going to.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 13 February 2021 10: 17
        -1
        Personally, I don't educate. And I'm not going to.
        Madame you made my day, so not often now, you hear about the firmness of the female spirit, especially in terms of education, honestly !!! hi
    2. Antonio_Mariarti
      Antonio_Mariarti 13 February 2021 00: 39
      +1
      Quote: V1er
      Neither the state nor parents are raising young people now. Children are often left to themselves and are raised by the Internet. And all social networks, YouTube, belong to Americans and are in the top in bulk. And in social networks in a young environment, propaganda goes easier on a fragile brain, there is no seriousness and decency there. They push into a naive head whatever they want and it is accepted. And of course, billionaires in the same social networks with a beautiful life and ladies finally finish it off. When you see how father and mother, working as teachers and doctors, earn a penny and barely survive.

      I agree, but the main problem is not in upbringing, but in dialogues. There is no dialogue between generations. Young people and parents seem to live in different worlds, I'm not even talking about grandparents. You were raised by TV, we were raised by the Internet.
  10. Lexaz5
    Lexaz5 12 February 2021 11: 26
    -2
    I agree with the author.
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 12 February 2021 11: 26
    0
    Troubled summer of 1943. No, 2021

    And what can be so new?
    Variants of everything that happened before ...
  12. Linxs
    Linxs 12 February 2021 11: 27
    +9
    If all those who insulted, robbed, underpaid, underpaid to veterans were as zealously imprisoned as they do with Navalny, the world would be a better place.
    But alas and ah. This is purely farm and window dressing. It's disgusting that they remembered about the veteran only now ... oh yes. As early as May 9th.
    1. Linxs
      Linxs 12 February 2021 11: 30
      +6
      The story was recently filmed.
      How a private company demolished 100 graves, and when everyone found out about this, the company said that it was wrong and was given incorrect coordinates and that it was necessary to write to the administration ...
      And the administration said they would sort it out ...
      So how much time has passed, and things are still there.
      0 criminal cases, 0 landings ...
      But this is different ... this is not an insult. This is not about Navalny.
      It should be a shame, Comrades.
  13. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 12 February 2021 11: 31
    +12
    They clung to Navalny, and this is just a litmus test of the state of the state and its justice. How many he violated the law, but was attracted after the command launched from above.
    For me, so Navalny, that Dear Leader, both do not inspire confidence. Both lie and follow only personal ambitions.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 12 February 2021 13: 19
      +7
      For me, so that Navalny, that Dear Leader, both do not inspire confidence.
      To some extent, two boots are a pair, the style is the same, but the colors are different: dark gray and light gray. laughing
    2. Motorist
      Motorist 13 February 2021 01: 13
      +1
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Clung to Navalny, and this is just a litmus test

      I don’t like to talk about people like that, but - figuratively speaking - he’s another piece of paper! Which is being used right now, and its further fate is known. I think he figured it out himself.
      1. 7,62x54
        7,62x54 13 February 2021 01: 24
        +1
        There was no need to rock the boat.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 13 February 2021 02: 56
          +4
          "Galley" themselves "beguiled the shores", lost the sense of proportion and "rowed" in bulk.
  14. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 12 February 2021 11: 33
    -4
    This is Rubicon and the author is right. I don't like politics and I don't want to take sides on principle. But it is necessary to change the attitude to many things after all this. And it's not about the bulk and its stubs. I have three children. Girls are worse. I like modern youth in general. But she differs from us, among other things, in that she cannot unstick such clowns from herself. And my job as a father is much more difficult from this. We knew what was good and what was bad. Do's and Don'ts. But if I can teach this to my three infections ... I don't know. The environment, I cannot control them, and they themselves, like me, cannot remove such from themselves. So things that are sacred for a Russian person need to be covered more rigidly by laws. Much.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 12 February 2021 12: 33
      +2
      Speaking of holy things, they say in your place In Khabarovsk, gasoline has risen in price Very much.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 12 February 2021 13: 30
        -6
        Rumors) the plant was under repair, there was a shortage. The cunning tried to give them their hands) Criminal cases, etc. I just did not take the car for several days until everything calmed down and that's it. And since when are gasoline and holy things somehow connected?
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 12 February 2021 13: 34
      +28
      Quote: carstorm 11
      So things that are sacred for a Russian person need to be covered more rigidly by laws.

      The trouble is that those who are obliged to control these laws are the worst offenders.
      1. veritas
        veritas 12 February 2021 21: 52
        +4
        Quote: Silvestr
        The trouble is that those who are obliged to control these laws are the worst offenders.

        They create laws for themselves. Soon you won't even have to break it.
    3. 7,62x54
      7,62x54 12 February 2021 14: 05
      +8
      Try to explain to the children at least two things, why the Mausoleum is being nailed up on May 9, why November 7 is now not Great October Day, but a holiday in honor of the 41st year parade.
      1. veritas
        veritas 12 February 2021 21: 54
        +4
        Quote: 7,62x54
        Try to explain to the children at least two things, why the Mausoleum is being nailed up on May 9, why November 7 is now not Great October Day, but a holiday in honor of the 41st year parade.

        They are terribly afraid. After all, there is something to compare with. What was and what became. That was almost all lost. And nothing new was built.
  15. Cowbra
    Cowbra 12 February 2021 11: 35
    -6
    Oh, nafig ... Straight kasasrofa! Let's remember such a person. Radek. By and large, he is a chatterbox, yap, easily changing his point of view to the opposite. With a hanging tongue, for which he was appreciated, and also, as homosexual in an ice-hole, he stubbornly did not drown. By and large - he glued the flippers, nailed down with a slipper in the slammer, they even regretted a bullet on him.
    So, Radek, in comparison with Oval and all this movement of semi-smart with rubber ducks and flashlights - Spartak! Moreover, on the barricades, which Radek did not climb during the Spartak uprising.
    The 43rd is coming ... Tyapnitsa comes in the evening, and this guy will be forgotten in a month
  16. Yaroslavl
    Yaroslavl 12 February 2021 12: 05
    +11
    We spat on your bulk author ... do not stray away from problems, from impoverishment, from lawlessness, from the creation of a new untouchable caste of the nouveau riche, Putin's friends ... that's what needs to be covered ... and not lead people away from problems convenient for power theme ... it's ugly and mean
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 12 February 2021 18: 13
      -4
      Have you prepared a flashlight? Download above - you're excited!
      1. Yaroslavl
        Yaroslavl 13 February 2021 06: 41
        +2
        Are you for my flashlight? Kremlebotina stupid)
  17. Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 12 February 2021 12: 07
    +1
    why 1943 ??? the author confused, there must be an unsettling summer of 1953
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 12 February 2021 13: 31
      +2
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      why 1943 ??? the author confused, there must be an unsettling summer of 1953

      and what, someone "gave his soul to God"?
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 12 February 2021 13: 36
        +3
        so even March 5 did not come, but there is an alarm on the horizon))))
        why then 1943?
    2. domokl
      12 February 2021 16: 37
      +2
      Summer 1943. Google the events of July-August 1943 and you will understand everything. From the school history course I took ...
  18. Maks1995
    Maks1995 12 February 2021 12: 21
    +5
    Ha.
    before - you do not know what to write about, write about the Anglo-Saxons.

    Now - you don't know what to write about, write about Navalny and Ukraine
  19. evgen1221
    evgen1221 12 February 2021 12: 44
    +5
    So I wrote in some article about the basement that first in the country you need to make friends with your head, get up from your ears to your feet and learn to give a clear definition of black and white. So many minuses rolled and angry comments. However, this is also an indicator. Well, on the other hand, for the tighter activity as in the basement of some Madame Novodvorskaya and Alekseev in the Kremlin, the president is awarded, who at this very time is fiercely fighting with what the recipients are doing. That is how we live....
  20. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 12 February 2021 12: 45
    +7
    Apparently clause a) of the VO rules "abusive curses; insult and threats against the opponent." does not apply to authors of articles. I am already silent about the fact that the opponent cannot even answer, because he is sitting.
    That, in general, characterizes the author. Sad of course
  21. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 12 February 2021 12: 47
    +2
    I'm NOT now !!! am I will write about Navalny

    Once again I was convinced that we are not united. We live in the same territory, we talk about the Motherland, we shout about our love for our native spaces, but we live in different countries. That is how Probably tough. But, I repeat, we live in different countries, in different Russia. Someone, in general, lives in the USSR ...

    In fact, now, as one of Navalny's supporters, wrote that there is a "cold civil war" - unfortunately, we have to agree with this crying To what extent it is necessary to think about people like me who call to live according to conscience and according to the Law - that people like me should be defined as "enemies of the people" ?! am belay
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 12 February 2021 13: 03
      +3
      Comrade, where did you get the idea that I support this Kremlin gasket? And the Civil did not end in the last century, it is now forever. The unique historical fact of a state without private property and a ban on personal enrichment cannot be removed from history. And it will excite the minds and hearts.
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 12 February 2021 13: 29
        +3
        Quote: Essex62
        Comrade, where did you get the idea that I support this Kremlin gasket? And the Civil did not end in the last century, it is now forever. The unique historical fact of a state without private property and a ban on personal enrichment cannot be removed from history. And it will excite the minds and hearts.

        I offer my official apologies that you misunderstood me !!! hi drinks
        I heard the term "cold civil war" from Navalny's supporters (not from you now) about a week ago))
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 12 February 2021 13: 43
          +3
          Accepted, comrade! drinks hi
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 12 February 2021 13: 46
            +6
            Quote: Essex62
            Accepted drinks hi

            It was you and I who showed the whole world that the people of Russia believe that there is already a "cold civil war" going on in the Russian Federation - and the Power thinks otherwise, they are doing well)))

  22. New Year day
    New Year day 12 February 2021 13: 07
    +24
    ... We live in different countries

    ... It is impossible to build a socially just society where private property is sacred.

    Correct messages and a fantastic solution of the author
    ... we change the state, through the abolition of the laws of the 90s, or they break our backs and turn us ...

    Because the existing government is sharpened for the opposite result. In light of the deteriorating relations with Europe, we are threatened to become
    ... "Europeans"

    does not threaten. How not to become Chinese request
  23. New Year day
    New Year day 12 February 2021 13: 10
    +25
    ... The troubled summer of 1943 is coming ... July is coming ...

    And it resembles the summer of 1916, on the eve of 1917
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 12 February 2021 13: 37
      +1
      Doesn't remind me how much. The main factor is absent - millions of armed peasants who are fed up with trench lice and gold-driving officers. Rather, the situation will ripen to a madness. There the population has heaps of trunks. laughing
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 12 February 2021 14: 53
        +22
        Quote: Essex62
        The main factor is absent - millions of armed peasants who are fed up with trench lice and gold-driving officers.

        So it's very easy to do. Remember the 90s!
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 12 February 2021 15: 54
          +2
          No matter how to do it. It is not enough to bring the people to the handle, it is necessary that everyone has a vintar and he knows how to use it. The first popular impulse, knocking off the nikolashka, was saddled, as is known from the beginning, by the bourgeoisie. In general, everything happened spontaneously.
          In the 90s, the usual redistribution was banditry, what does this have to do with social upheavals? And not at all millions of citizens took part in this. Nothing to do with 1917.
  24. parusnik
    parusnik 12 February 2021 13: 13
    +5
    What kind of Russia do we live in now?
    according to the Constitution and the adopted amendments in a democratic federal rule of law with a republican form of government. In addition, Russia is a social state, the policy of which is aimed at creating conditions that ensure a dignified life and free human development. The Russian Federation protects the labor and health of people, establishes a guaranteed minimum wage, provides state support for family, motherhood, fatherhood and childhood, disabled people and the elderly, develops a system of social services, establishes state pensions, benefits and other guarantees of social protection.
    Either we remain Russian, or we become "Europeans." Not geographically, but spiritually.
    I understand correctly, Bashkir, you cannot remain a Bashkir, like an Udmurt, an Udmurt? Do they need to become Russians? You write, we destroyed and list ... If you put your hand in this, so write. I personally did not put my hands on everything destroyed, why do you take me as accomplices .. They beat me on the hands to some extent did not interfere with the destruction ..
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 12 February 2021 13: 35
      +6
      the future of the country does not inspire optimism, it is scary for the children and grandchildren, they will have to see a lot that they should not see. There is nothing worse when the people are angry and hard to keep silent, when it breaks through, it will be scary.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 12 February 2021 13: 47
        +4
        It will break through only in case of a complete ass in the conditions of life. These smarter by an order of magnitude, those of the last century, will not allow. They will keep a minimum and a carrot in front of the youth's nose.
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 12 February 2021 13: 55
          +3
          Quote: Essex62
          It will break through only in case of a complete ass in the conditions of life.

          and it is already visible ... the standard of living in the regions is rapidly falling, there are no people in clothing stores, only in grocery stores, electronics stores are also empty, construction has become quiet. people are trying to spend money on food only, and this is growing, grocery prices are off the leash , growing every day ... so the "ass" is on the horizon.
          1. Snail N9
            Snail N9 12 February 2021 14: 16
            +1
            So our "great" economists, who, in their own words, specifically keep the salary bar at a minimum, and domestic loans at a maximum, ostensibly to "attract FOREIGN INVESTMENT", withdraw every penny from the domestic market for the sake of, as they say, to maintain "inflation the minimum level "completely ignoring the mechanisms of attracting domestic investment, they do not even understand that the" defatting of the domestic market "from money, the fall in wages leads to a drop in demand and consumption, which in turn leads to bankruptcy of enterprises and companies and the release of personnel" into the street " , which in turn leads to an excess of labor in the market, excessive competition, which allows the remaining employers to further reduce wages, delay their payment, etc., which, again, leads to even greater savings by the population, an even greater drop in demand for goods and services, etc. -the circle is closed ...
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 12 February 2021 14: 53
              +3
              What task the owners have set, they are performing, what have the economists to do with it? The coup, in 85-93, was carried out according to a clearly planned program and under the vigilant leadership of the Freemasons. The theory of the worthlessness and delusion of the marked is not consistent. No matter how the huckster-tsekhoviks and the "creative intelligentsia" did it all. The ultimate goal is to weaken, reduce the Russian nation to a minimum.
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    2. domokl
      12 February 2021 16: 44
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      I understand correctly, Bashkir, you cannot remain a Bashkir, like an Udmurt, an Udmurt?

      It's strange. I considered you a thinking person. You do not understand correctly. You mix the internal division and the external perception of our people ... But, not beautiful, somehow it smells disgusting .. Excuse me for the truth
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 12 February 2021 21: 13
        +4
        Our state is federal. It unites 150 nationalities. What kind of possible Europeanization are you talking about, what kind of Russianness. Who should I be? I have an international family from time immemorial. Whoever is in my blood. Do not impose on me Russianness, "Tatarness" and so on. Before I was a Soviet person. Now, since the Motherland is what it is, I am a Russian. And you divide everything into Russians, Russianness .. smacks of the chosen nation .. it was already and is .. I am sick of nationalism as such, any. And I did not break anything with you. hi
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  26. lelik613
    lelik613 12 February 2021 19: 56
    0
    Looking at what is happening ... Can juvenile killers be tried? I suppose you can. Delay until 18 years, and after ... lean against the wall. If you have not repented.
  27. WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 12 February 2021 20: 11
    +2
    The person boiled over and gave out completely incoherent text on emotions.
    As always, the questions are correct, the emotions are correct, but there are no real proposals, even the simplest ones.
    This is our common misfortune - we, ordinary people, who earn their daily bread and pay taxes, know that much is not so, we feel it in our gut, and we do not know what to do right now.
    That is why Navalny is the undisputed leader in terms of political movement, because he, or rather his curators, know very well what to do. They have a goal and a means to achieve it.
    As for the act of a petty mrazota, I recommend everyone interested to read this: https://vz.ru/opinions/2021/2/12/1084294.html. Not even an article - so, a note, but very correct.
    On my own I note that the young TV @ ry was brought up by her parents. It was they, the parents, who allowed him to "poke" his grandfather and demanded that he, a young moron, give up a place in public transport. It was they who allowed him to be rude, hysterical, "pump" the rights, either because there was absolutely no strength for education, or they read through "smart" books, where they were instilled with the idea that "a child has the right ...".
    You will notice how often we see the picture when the grandparents are standing and the child is sitting. Moreover, we are talking about an individual of the order of 7-10 years, and this is kind of normal. Listen to how children speak to their parents, to the tone and manner of speech.
    The world around us is rapidly changing - the information revolution will not give anyone a chance to sit out in a warm corner, but one thing remains unchanged - at the first stage of life, a human cub copies the behavior of nearby adults, borrows behavioral cliches, rules and style of interaction with the surrounding reality.
    And therefore, the first demand for the behavior of a dull-headed schoolboy is from his parents.
    I think so.
  28. Kisa
    Kisa 12 February 2021 21: 00
    0
    out of 130 comments if you take it as a cut of society: for Lech they supported -2, for the current government -3. the rest are all unhappy with what is happening in the country.
    Yes, probably there are holy things, but they must also speculate in moderation. author - write on the topic of the day
    1. Motorist
      Motorist 13 February 2021 01: 32
      0
      Quote: kitty
      from 130 comments if taken as a cut of society

      Kisa, I myself am shocked by the comments! What kind of society is the slice here is generally not clear. There are such broken cuts in the drawings - you know - so that you can see everything inside. And the Internet is like a crooked mirror: "the object is closer than it seems." hi
  29. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 12 February 2021 23: 02
    +2
    I met a bunch of "condemned" articles, and not a single one that would describe in detail - but what exactly happened?
    Someone brought someone, someone named someone, someone supported someone ... showed on TV ..

    Vaughn, Zhirinovsky: he called Russian pigs ... (so as not to be blocked I write like that), and nothing.
    The court, I read it, didn’t even start accepting an insult ...
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 13 February 2021 09: 20
      +4
      On the eve of the amendments, a video was released in which PR people from Channel 1 selected people who "inspire confidence." Among them was a veteran of 95 years

      Navalny, in his program, called everyone who advocated the amendments, corrupt lackeys.

      The veteran had the least questions. It is clear that he spoke from a piece of paper, his relatives received the benefit, providing their grandfather for money. Essentially a dirty move by PR people. Much more important was the participation in the video of other more meaningful characters, artists, etc. Corrupt lackeys, without a doubt

      The story was taken out of context, attention is now focused on the insult of that very veteran

      The veteran, naturally, did not see Navalny's transfer. But such a savory story was promoted. On behalf of the veteran, an offended plaintiff was found, who for some reason forgot the name of the veteran at the trial, he called him Artemenko, not Ignatenko

      Relatives dragged the veteran to court (not for free), everyone is shocked by what is happening. The grandfather is ready to sleep from such stress. Navalny calls everything as it is, a farce, a shame, in the veteran's grandson - a "prostitute" who trades in his grandfather, despite the age of the latter and the stress contraindicated to him. The veteran plays the floor of a "doll," a Maltese falcon. Which itself is not interesting to anyone, but is necessary for the plot

      This is, in short, the story. Ugly feeling from those using veteran
  30. Tlalok
    Tlalok 12 February 2021 23: 32
    +2
    Rzhu with local "communists")) Where were you smart guys when the country was let in on shit? Why did the people not come out and scattered everything and everyone for their homeland, eh? As if the power was not sold out, then there was a Soviet man and ...?! Horseradish. People felt bad and they wanted it. True, it turned out as always, of course, it got worse) And now history is repeating itself, agree to your wretched revolution, allegedly not under Navalny, and then there will be whining again ... And these cynical nostalgic memories of the old days) And if God forbid, the revolution is really launched, then She won't go without terror, does she understand? You here, and me, too, will be put through one to the wall lol It seems that officials are brought to us from the planet by corruption) All these little people are from the people, however
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 14 February 2021 10: 13
      0
      So, but not so. And they went out and fought, only the admin resource of the revolutionaries, the top of the security forces, tidied up,
      played its part one hundred percent. Always and everywhere, a coup carried out from above cannot be prevented. But maybe somewhere, in the banana republics, maybe. There, tribal laws are higher than state laws.
      And all the hucksters will certainly be put up against the wall, if the revolution is socialist, then you are absolutely right.
  31. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 16 February 2021 16: 02
    0
    What kind of Russia do we live in now?
    We live in Russia, which was created by people who have been in power for 30 years. And this jackal is the fruit of the upbringing of Mr. Gref, Kudrin, and where can you get to from this, Putin V.V. It was these children that their activity should have brought up and brought up. What else were waiting for ?!
  32. tank64rus
    tank64rus 18 February 2021 09: 40
    0
    Correctly say the problem is the impoverishment of the people. Well, further corruption and theft of officials, their permissiveness. The insecurity of ordinary people, especially at the regional level. But the main thing is a huge stratification of incomes of one and the other.