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Berlin is ready to pay the United States to lift sanctions on Nord Stream 2

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The head of the Federal Ministry of Finance of the Federal Republic of Germany, Olaf Scholz, offered former American President Donald Trump assistance in promoting liquefied gas from the United States on the European market in exchange for lifting sanctions restrictions on the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. - 2 ", as it expects to receive a significant profit after its launch.


This information was published by the German edition Deutsche Welle, referring to the German public environmental organization Deutsche Umwelthilfe (DUH).

German environmentalists argue that the German government has offered Washington financial assistance in the amount of one billion euros if the Americans agree to block the imposition of sanctions or abandon the application of legislation against the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

The DUH representatives, who are in favor of freezing the project, were outraged by such negotiations. In particular, the executive director of this environmental organization, Sasha Müller-Krenner, called the negotiations of the finance minister with the Americans "a dirty deal at the expense of third parties." In his opinion, the government has no right to dispose of the money of German taxpayers in this way.

And although the government of Germany did not comment on this information, the publication learned that the German authorities were preparing an official statement on this issue.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 10 February 2021 12: 16
    +4
    Wouldn't it be cheaper to send US troops out of the country?
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 10 February 2021 12: 24
      +7
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Wouldn't it be cheaper to send US troops out of the country?

      No, these are the adepts and fosterlings of the United States.
      1. hirurg
        hirurg 10 February 2021 12: 31
        -1
        public environmental organization Deutsche Umwelthilfe (DUH)
        Then let them go to Siberia for firewood. You look and grow wiser.
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 10 February 2021 13: 00
          +5
          Yeah, so the Siberians let them in, let them go to the striped ones. fool
          1. hirurg
            hirurg 10 February 2021 19: 22
            -1
            It is very difficult when you do not know how to analyze the message and think straightforwardly.
            -If you do not want to buy gas and oil, then you will heat yourself with firewood, and you have to go to Siberia for them (quote from GDP close to the text)
            - In order to prepare large quantities of firewood, you need to work in felling. And who works in the felling? ....
            Be careful with emoticons)
        2. Cosm22
          Cosm22 10 February 2021 17: 20
          +5
          As far as we know, only citizens of the Russian Federation enjoy this privilege.
          Only they, according to the law of January 1, 2019, are allowed to collect dead wood in forests, dry trees or parts of them lying on the ground for free.
          So foreigners are in flight.
      2. loki565
        loki565 10 February 2021 13: 31
        -2
        Pure racket, pay for cover)))
      3. keeper03
        keeper03 10 February 2021 19: 39
        0
        Ooo, how everything is running! The ransom was offered! recourse request
    2. Voltsky
      Voltsky 10 February 2021 12: 26
      +4
      the world is global, my friend, and the number of interests of German offices in the SGA tends to infinity.
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 10 February 2021 13: 10
        -1
        Quote: Voletsky
        the world is global, my friend, and the number of interests of German offices in the SGA tends to infinity.

        Yes, a duck article, everything was already divided there even before the pipe was born. Americans are shipping Russian gas from Yamal for Japan and norms.)) Business and only business is in Russian. The strategic partner of the United States imposes sanctions not against the Russian Federation, but against the partners of the Russian Federation. This gives the United States the right to indicate the partners of the Russian Federation, but not the Russian Federation. And the Russian Federation, in turn, invites partners not to listen to the United States, but to buy goods from the Russian Federation and invest in the Russian Federation. But as you can see, not everyone is brave, but at least they are not silent.
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 10 February 2021 13: 16
          +4
          Americans are physically unable to ship lng from Yamal; but they can buy it there and pay for the chartering of gas carriers, and then resell it with a small fee. The same is happening on the European lng market.
          In general, from my point of view, the Americans are doing everything right, they are trying to close all flows of energy resources on themselves, making themselves an uncontested intermediary.
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 10 February 2021 12: 39
      -3
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Wouldn't it be cheaper to send US troops out of the country?

      A military contingent? And what will change? Germany cannot get the gold from the USA that is stored there.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 10 February 2021 13: 51
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Wouldn't it be cheaper to send US troops out of the country?

        A military contingent? And what will change? Germany cannot get the gold from the USA that is stored there.

        Quote: loki565
        Pure racket, pay for cover)))

        Yes ... the Teutons have gone wrong today ...

        And the gold of the German, it seems to me, has long been there bye-bye, because the Americans not only refuse to give it away - the Germans are not even allowed to look at it.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 10 February 2021 13: 59
          -1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          And the gold of the German, it seems to me, has long been there bye-bye, because the Americans not only refuse to give it away - the Germans are not even allowed to look at it.

          De Gaulle managed to snatch French gold))))
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 10 February 2021 14: 03
            0
            Quote: RUSS
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            And the gold of the German, it seems to me, has long been there bye-bye, because the Americans not only refuse to give it away - the Germans are not even allowed to look at it.

            De Gaulle managed to snatch French gold))))

            So he caught the "student unrest" of 1968 for this ... Then the French sobered up from the intoxication of "freedom", they cried that they had thrown him in vain, but too late ... So it is still in popolize in the wake of American politics and go ...
        2. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 10 February 2021 20: 30
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A

          Yes ... the Teutons have gone wrong today ...
          .
          After WWII, Jews became excellent warriors angry
          After WWII, the Germans became excellent traders bully
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 10 February 2021 23: 10
            0
            Quote: cat Rusich
            Quote: Zoldat_A

            Yeah ... the Teutons have gone wrong these days ...
            After WWII, Jews became excellent warriors angry
            After WWII, the Germans became excellent traders bully

            Your truth. However, the Jews, at the same time, did not cease to be excellent merchants (bankers, violinists, doctors), but the Teutons, as warriors, were somehow blown away ...

            As an example, we fought in Afghanistan, but nothing is heard about the successful operations of the Germans from the word "absolutely". Well, at least some small-town "blitzkrieg" was organized ... So in Afghanistan there is no Stalingrad - what are they afraid of?
            Yes, to be honest, and about the "operation" he started the whole merry-go-round - Americans, something is not heard. With a greater than then, the duration of their presence, with comparable losses (according to various sources from 5,5 to 11 thousand) - where are their "successes"? Drug traffic?

            And one more "fi" about this. They are "at war" by those who are now called "contract soldiers", that is, professionals. And then we had conscripts, yesterday's students, turners, locksmiths and tractor drivers.
            And by the way, we also had Jews. And there were smart officers, and great guys.
            1. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 10 February 2021 23: 42
              +1
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              about the successful operations of the Germans, something is not heard from the word "absolutely". Well, at least some small-town "blitzkrieg" was organized ... So in Afghanistan there is no Stalingrad - what are they afraid of?
              .
              The Bundeswehr has been in Afghanistan from the very beginning.
              The losses of the Bundeswehr "beyond the river" - 54 killed, 230 wounded (official data for 2019). Bundeswehr today cheats with statistics sends "PMC contractors" to Afghanistan - the losses among the "soldiers of the FRG Fortune" are unknown - they do not count ...
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 11 February 2021 04: 41
                0
                Quote: cat Rusich
                Today the Bundeswehr is cunning with statistics and sends "PMC contractors" to Afghanistan - the losses among the "soldiers of the FRG Fortune" are unknown - they do not count ...

                With those, everything is even more complicated. Even if a contractor from Germany or the United States can fool his head that he "protects democracy and the interests of the Federal Republic of Germany (USA)" in the region, then how to do this with mercenaries from PMCs? He fights purely for the loot, and the corpse, as you know, does not need money. Consequently, he will think five times more than a regular military man whether to poke his head into the devil's teeth or not.

                Yes, political officers told us that we were "defending the southern borders of our Motherland." This is how it was, considering where our borders were then. And what kind of stump they have been pounding for 19 years? For me, there is only one explanation. Maintaining a controlled fire, if not right next to us, then at least not far from us. And at any moment their own fosterlings, with whom they are "at war" - the Taliban - will move to the north and then in a couple of months will be directly in our hypochondrium ... Because our former Central Asia for the Taliban is not a military question, but a question of distance our border.
    4. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 10 February 2021 13: 01
      +1
      Not cheaper. Who will listen to the chancellor's phone?)
    5. Roman070280
      Roman070280 10 February 2021 13: 10
      +1
      Wouldn't it be cheaper to send US troops out of the country?

      German pensioners do not want the standard of living of our pensioners ..
      Therefore, they will continue to work with amers ..
    6. Piramidon
      Piramidon 10 February 2021 13: 56
      0
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Wouldn't it be cheaper to send US troops out of the country?

      The gut is thin.
    7. smart ass
      smart ass 10 February 2021 14: 13
      -1
      Adolf Mikhalych should have seen it
    8. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 10 February 2021 23: 43
      -1
      You are the number of US bases first
      in Germany, count.
      Controlled aerodromes.
      It's easier for Nemchura to get out of the country themselves, cheaper
      will, especially since the industry is completely
      in the hands of the United States.
      There is only German beer
      and sausages with red cabbage.
    9. Nitarius
      Nitarius 11 February 2021 04: 11
      0
      as))) if there is a contract of a higher rank!
      Germany colony USA
      It is about this that G.-G. Komossa. The state treaty of May 21, 1949, to which the BND assigned the highest degree of secrecy, sets out the restrictions on state sovereignty of the Federal Republic of Germany until 2099. The agreement states that the allied countries have complete control over the German media and communications. Each Federal Chancellor of Germany must, before assuming office, sign the so-called Chancellor Act. In addition, the entire gold reserve of Germany is under arrest imposed by the Allies. And indeed, all the chancellors of Germany, including the current Angela Merkel, paid their first state visit to the United States. The US administration continues to intervene in internal processes in Germany. All political parties in Germany are led by a special monitoring body from Washington, and the licensed press created by the Americans in Germany is an even more unified means of brainwashing than under the Nazi regime. The territory of Germany remains occupied by American troops. All this might seem like a picture generated by someone's sick fantasy, if not for the figure of the author, Former NATO General.
  2. S. Smirnov
    S. Smirnov 10 February 2021 12: 19
    +2
    Well, they began to bargain openly, without political cover.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 10 February 2021 12: 38
      +4
      Quote: S Smirnov
      Well, they began to bargain openly, without political cover

      It is doubtful about the fact that striped ears can be "bribed" ... They have a printing press. They themselves will buy whoever you want. Consider that unsecured money is printed in TRILLIONS ... what is an honest German billion to them? Ugh and grind ...
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 10 February 2021 14: 20
        -3
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Quote: S Smirnov
        Well, they began to bargain openly, without political cover

        It is doubtful about the fact that striped ears can be "bribed" ... They have a printing press. They themselves will buy whoever you want. Consider that unsecured money is printed in TRILLIONS ... what is an honest German billion to them? Ugh and grind ...

        With such a profitability of printing dollars (14 cents for a 100-dollar bill) and with ABSOLUTE disregard for them, dollars, the provision - all across America can not work at all - just print green paper, after the first turnover take it abroad by air, so that at home inflation will not start.

        The only way for the world to fight the American dictatorship is to switch to the gold standard and abandon the reserve currency in general and the dollar in particular. Only America, I'm afraid, in this case will kick up so that the whole world does not seem to be enough. If he has more dollars, he will get more.

        I personally haven't held dollars in my hands for 20 years. I live on rubles, and somehow I have dollars and what is not - to the bulb. I will not go to America to buy a bulldozer and a Caterpillar excavator for dollars - I bought it perfectly for rubles. I agree, more expensive than in America. Well, it's not more expensive than money ...
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 10 February 2021 14: 55
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          I personally haven't held dollars in my hands for 20 years. I live on rubles, and somehow I have dollars and what is not - to the bulb. I will not go to America to buy a bulldozer and a Caterpillar excavator for dollars - I bought it for rubles. I agree, more expensive than in America. Well, it's not more expensive than money, after all.

          I keep it, but only because I go abroad, rubles are not accepted there. Well, conditionally I keep it, basically a map. And it became profitable to trade with them, with abroad. We sell her all sorts of high-tech devices, the dollar is growing, and profitability in rubles is growing .. IMHO, this is the best import substitution - an increase in the exchange rate ... We would have kept it stable, otherwise you get tired of counting back and forth ... laughing
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 10 February 2021 15: 11
            +1
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            I keep it, but only because I go abroad, rubles are not accepted there. Well, conditionally, I keep it, mostly a map.

            I don't trade with foreign countries, I don't trade with anyone. I trade - it happens ... yes Production, construction sites are mine. All here. And abroad ... Well, where can you go when you are a tourist ... And I pay with a card ... I cry, but I cry ... laughing
            In the commentary, I meant some, in particular, my colleagues - a little money came - immediately to a foreign currency account. Here. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately?) I do not have such a money supply to think about its long-term storage in dollars (gold, pearls, Mongolian tugriks, Polynesian shells). Constantly some kind of movement goes on. I don't really climb, I only define the general strategy. The sister-chief accountant is in command. I have it, the Minister of Finance and the Central Bank in one bottle. laughing ... I only know for sure that neither the company nor the family assets are denominated in dollars.
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 10 February 2021 20: 21
        +2
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Consider that unsecured money is printed in TRILLIONS ...

        Eugene, they no longer print on the machine, No. this is the past, with new technologies everything is easier.
        The relevant officials gather, via videoconference, decide how many billions of dollars need to be pumped into the US budget, then they enter this amount on a computer ..., press Enter, and the specified amount is distributed to the accounts of US banks fellow ... Five seconds!
        1. dauria
          dauria 11 February 2021 01: 37
          +1
          press Enter, and the specified amount is distributed to the accounts of US banks

          Something just hurts you. And the Chinese will melt a ton of copper and give it to the Americans for the extra dollars that just appeared out of thin air? I don’t think so.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 11 February 2021 10: 55
            +2
            Quote: dauria
            extra dollars coming out of thin air?

            Right. They have been like that for a long time. Keep only on faith and no alternative.
  3. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 10 February 2021 12: 22
    +1
    If they refuse, then let them develop wind energy. The wind sometimes does not blow. And China has become a monopolist in the wind energy industry, from the flame to the wormwood. A flag in their hands and a drum around their neck.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 February 2021 13: 01
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      If they refuse, then let them develop wind energy. Sometimes the wind does not blow.

      Hope for the wind, and keep the wood near the stove.
  4. V1er
    V1er 10 February 2021 12: 22
    0
    those in favor of freezing the project were outraged by such negotiations. In particular, the executive director of this environmental organization, Sasha Müller-Krenner, called the negotiations between the finance minister and the Americans "a dirty deal at the expense of third parties." In his opinion, the government has no right to dispose of the money of German taxpayers in this way.
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    hysterical
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 10 February 2021 13: 58
      -2
      Quote: V1er
      those in favor of freezing the project were outraged by such negotiations. In particular, the executive director of this environmental organization, Sasha Müller-Krenner, called the negotiations between the finance minister and the Americans "a dirty deal at the expense of third parties." In his opinion, the government has no right to dispose of the money of German taxpayers in this way.
      \
      hysterical

      She was also paid, grants need to be worked out.
  5. three
    three 10 February 2021 12: 27
    +4
    And these people are hovering our brains about the "market and competitive economy"? When are you ready to buy off the overseas raiders themselves? This is no longer a "lobby", this is outright piracy. It is striking, simply amazing, how zombified the Europeans are with crap!
  6. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 10 February 2021 12: 29
    +2
    The head of the Ministry of Finance of the Federal Republic of Germany, Olaf Scholz, offered former American President Donald Trump assistance in promoting liquefied gas from the United States on the European market.
    Read carefully. Promotional assistance does not mean concluding purchase contracts. In the States, too, they are not fools, they will not fall for this bait.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 10 February 2021 14: 00
      0
      Quote: Mikhail M
      Promotional assistance does not mean concluding purchase contracts. In the States, too, they are not fools, they will not be led by this bait.

      Everything is correct. Germany itself will not buy gas - it is expensive. It will use the forces of the European Union to overtake those lower in rank. It will calculate the weighted average margin and will shove both our gas and the American limitrophes at the same price. In this case, Germany is not threatened in material terms, but the "Young Europeans" will turn on gas heating in houses on holidays.
  7. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 10 February 2021 12: 29
    +6
    Germany is a country under the occupation of the US Army. She is also the mistress of NATO and, through it, over all other EU countries. The bribe for completing Stream 2 is a squeal of despair as they know that Ukraine has begun to escalate the fighting in the Donbass, and, therefore, the hour is not far off when Russia will intervene in this, protecting its citizens, for example. And this means that soon the inevitable termination of fuel supplies through the Ukrainian gas transportation system, and most likely for a long time.
    If it is possible to complete and launch the 2nd stream, then supply interruptions will not threaten and Germany will remain the main hub of the EU.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 10 February 2021 12: 40
      -14%
      Quote: mojohed2012
      Germany is a country under the occupation of the US Army.

      Germany is a NATO member, what is the occupation? There are Russian military bases in Tajikistan, and that Tajikistan is also occupied?
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 10 February 2021 20: 30
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: mojohed2012
        Germany is a country under the occupation of the US Army.

        Germany is a NATO member, what is the occupation? There are Russian military bases in Tajikistan, and that Tajikistan is also occupied?

        It is not so important how to call these troops, occupation or allied.
        The military contingent located in this country allows the United States to reliably control Germany and dictate its conditions to the authorities of this state.
        In fact, they successfully perform the same functions as the classic occupation troops.
        This means the goal has been achieved, and the occupation status can be sacrificed yes
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 11 February 2021 11: 46
          -1
          Quote: Terenin
          The military contingent located in this country allows the United States to reliably control Germany and dictate its conditions to the authorities of this state

          Are you talking about Georgia?
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 11 February 2021 12: 16
            +2
            Quote: RUSS
            Quote: Terenin
            The military contingent located in this country allows the United States to reliably control Germany and dictate its conditions to the authorities of this state

            Are you talking about Georgia?

            This applies to all countries with a similar situation.
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 11 February 2021 12: 39
              -1
              Quote: Terenin
              This applies to all countries with a similar situation.

              good
        2. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 12 February 2021 08: 43
          +1
          It is not so important how to call these troops, occupation or allied.
          The military contingent located in this country allows the United States to reliably control Germany and dictate its conditions to the authorities of this state.
          Do not forget that their own Bundeswehr has been reduced and, most importantly, muted to a level so as not to represent a force that can kick up against the owner.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 12 February 2021 09: 48
            +2
            Quote: abrakadabre
            their own Bundeswehr has been reduced and, most importantly, muted to the level so as not to represent a force

            I believe that Russia is not against it either.
            1. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre 12 February 2021 09: 59
              0
              I believe that Russia is not against it either.
              Nobody is against it. Even some kind of Poland. But this is not what we are discussing now. And the opportunity and the resulting readiness of Germany to conduct its own policy independent of the United States. Economic as well. And here the Bundeswehr is watery now. To hypothetically nudge his brazen hegemon ally.
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 12 February 2021 10: 03
                +3
                Quote: abrakadabre
                But this is not what we are discussing now. And the opportunity and the resulting readiness of Germany to conduct its own policy independent of the United States.

                Valery, yes I remember this phrase from the "Caucasian captive"
                ... I have desires but do not have the opportunity
                laughing
  8. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2021 12: 35
    +2
    laughing Poor Germans were caught between Scylla and Charybdis, Inadequate goes off scale. They persuade themselves - "The EU is now in a position of strength." laughing On the face, complete isolation from reality.
  9. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2021 12: 37
    +1
    The expert needs to turn off the heating for one night. Now is the right time for that.

    And then he will immediately have a puzzle on the topic of who needs whom more. laughing
  10. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2021 12: 39
    +2
    The EU is weak. And if earlier only states were put on it, now we did the same. 
    there they were clearly not mentally prepared for this. Hence these mantras about their importance, greatness AND power. But that was all over. And now they are food for the upcoming celebration of life, which is called the way out of the current crisis.  laughing I don’t remember What are some of the significant investments in Russia made by the EU on the basis of intergovernmental agreements in order to have the audacity to set political conditions? I don't remember those.
  11. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2021 12: 47
    +1
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    laughing Poor Germans were caught between Scylla and Charybdis, Inadequate goes off scale. They persuade themselves - "The EU is now in a position of strength." laughing On the face, complete isolation from reality.

    This citizen is an EXPERT, he forms a collective expert opinion, including for foreign policy actions.

    The problem is that even their experts are in an inadequate state in relation to reality. Not to mention the others.

    This is a very dangerous trap that the Russians should never fall into.
  12. iouris
    iouris 10 February 2021 12: 51
    -6
    Pay from both ends of the pipe (I think so). But the point is, $ 1.000.000.000 is a paltry amount.
  13. Alien From
    Alien From 10 February 2021 12: 53
    +2
    This is business)))
  14. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2021 13: 04
    -6
    Quote: iouris
    Pay from both ends of the pipe (I think so). But the point is, $ 1.000.000.000 is a paltry amount.

    Yesterday, several American conspiracy forums actively discussed a message copied from one of the online boards warning of an imminent stock market crash and subsequent global financial reboot. A friend of mine works on Wall Street and said that among brokers there is such a rumor: when corporations will finish handing out bonuses over the past years, they are going to blow up the economy and do away with the dollar as the world's reserve currency. He said that it would be bad that the world had never seen this before, as it would be associated with long underfunding, with the collapse of state pensions, and also with bankrupt entire cities, states and sectors of the economy. He believes that municipalities are using the pandemic as a reason to gradually close prisons, schools, hospitals, etc. As Mr. AblePatriot writes on GLP, the stock market correction by 30% -50% will take place from March 1 to May 1. This view is shared by renowned market professionals such as Motley Fool Buffet, Ramsey and others. The only thing that Mr. AblePatriot adds is a “correction”, that is, the collapse of the Dow somewhere up to 15 points or much lower, will not happen by itself, but there will be some kind of trigger event that will become, as it were, a trigger. In light of the above, I think that both the respondent's message with a friend on Wall Street, and all these forecasts of financiers, tell about one thing - some kind of world financial crisis. It will happen, obviously, within the specified time frame - that is, somewhere between March 000 and May 1, 1, so we are following the development of events. ..What will our financial analysts answer?

    Is it time to buy salt / sugar / matches / buckwheat / pasta?

    PS Yes, I forgot the toilet paper !!!  laughing
  15. Roman070280
    Roman070280 10 February 2021 13: 09
    +1
    Not ready, but WAS ready ..
    Now this fact has surfaced .. and will have to make excuses for it too ..
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 February 2021 13: 11
    +2
    the director of this environmental organization, Sasha Müller-Krenner, called the negotiations of the finance minister with the Americans a "dirty deal at the expense of third parties" ... the government has no right to dispose of the money of German taxpayers in this way
    Ay yes Sasha, ah yes Muller. And the fact that American LNG is more expensive, which means that an ordinary German will have to pay monthly no more worries him? "Green" not only in Germany, but also in other countries are used in the interests of competing companies and of course not for free. It means that someone's taxpayer giving money to the "green" does not count, because it's different.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 10 February 2021 13: 42
      +1
      And the fact that American LNG is more expensive, which means that an ordinary German will have to pay monthly no more worries him?


      Oh yes Gennady ..
      And the fact that the government has no right to dispose of the money of German taxpayers in this way does not bother him ??

      It means that someone's taxpayer giving money to the "green" does not count, because it's different.

      It means that the German government offered a bribe to the Trump government does not count. it's different ..
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 10 February 2021 13: 13
    +2
    Berlin is ready to pay the United States to lift sanctions on Nord Stream 2

    Pay off, sit on two chairs .... what, most often, happens later? What does historical experience tell us / them?
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 10 February 2021 13: 43
      +1
      Everything will be fine with the Germans .. they certainly won't be left without a chair ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 February 2021 14: 08
        +1
        Are we against it?
        So, to recall how it happens, purely for understanding history.
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 10 February 2021 14: 12
          +1
          From history, we seem to be winners, and they are defeated ..
          What can not be said about the standard of living ..
          So we can't teach them at all !!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 February 2021 14: 28
            -1
            Quote: Roman070280
            So we can't teach them at all !!

            Remind me not to eat ...
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 10 February 2021 13: 59
    -1
    Berlin is ready to pay the US to lift sanctions on Nord Stream 2,

    And the field of this, they dare to assert that Germany is a sovereign state. It differs from Ukraine, only in the presence of money in order to pay tribute to the Americans!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 10 February 2021 14: 09
      +1
      So this is not our headache ... the locomotive is running, the gas pipeline is under construction.
    2. Roman070280
      Roman070280 10 February 2021 14: 14
      +1
      It differs from Ukraine, only in the presence of money in order to pay tribute to the Americans!


      Poor, poor Germans .. They dream of moving to "sovereign" Russia at night .. so as not to pay tribute, but to live humanly, finally ..))

      Shl .. well, think a little before you write ..
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 10 February 2021 19: 35
        +1
        Quote: Roman070280
        Poor, poor Germans .. They dream of moving to "sovereign" Russia at night .. so as not to pay tribute, but to live humanly, finally ..))

        Shl .. well, think a little before you write ..

        Why is everything so primitive?
        In Saudi Arabia, they live an order of magnitude richer, but what is considered a prank in Europe can be stoned there. Not everything is determined by money ......................... .. well, that's all for you, sorry
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 11 February 2021 11: 25
          +1
          Why is everything so primitive?
          In Saudi Arabia, they live much richer, but what is considered a prank in Europe can be stoned there.


          And what does this have to do with sovereignty and paying "tribute" ??
          "To hammer with stones" is a purely internal matter of the state from the category of traditions, and has nothing to do with the topic of conversation.

          .Not everything is determined by money ...........................

          In this case, it was about money !!
          Germany differs from Ukraine, only in the presence of money in order to pay tribute to the Americans

          To which it was quite rightly noted that it would be better for us to learn from Germany .. and not give stupid advice ..

          shl. and also asked separately - think a little before writing ..


          well everything for you, sorry

          Sorry .. the Chukchi are not a reader, he is a writer ..))
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 11 February 2021 15: 16
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            Quote: Roman070280
            And what does this have to do with sovereignty and paying "tribute" ??

            Directly proportional. The higher the country's dependence on the United States, the greater the pullback. When you do not have money, they sell their territory for bases, give over to the economy and politics.
            Quote: Roman070280
            In this case, it was about money !!

            Write again?
            Quote: Roman070280
            To which it was quite rightly noted that it would be better for us to learn from Germany .. and not give stupid advice ..

            I remember our leadership of the 90s not only learned from the United States, but gave them everything, sovereignty, economic management and even writing laws!
            And they received in response the plunder of the country and DEMOCRACY! Until now, we cannot collect the economy ............

            Quote: Roman070280
            s. and also asked separately - think a little before writing ..

            Unlike some, I think with my head, not my wallet ............... (I hope you understand the difference)
            Quote: Roman070280
            Sorry .. the Chukchi are not a reader, he is a writer ..))

            Will you be rude, boy? I'll translate you into your Neanderthal, but I'm afraid they'll be banned ................
            1. Roman070280
              Roman070280 12 February 2021 09: 25
              +1
              Directly proportional. The higher the country's dependence on the United States, the greater the pullback

              Once again, in Russian - what does the habits of stoning in Saudi Arabia have to do with money and the United States .. You still wear a hijab here ..


              When you have no money, they sell their territory for bases, give the economy and politics at the mercy

              In Saudi Arabia, they live much richer, but what is considered a prank in Europe can be stoned there.
              What do these two phrases have in common ?? I understand that thoughts are scattering .. Please, pull yourself together and write clearly what does this have to do with the Germans, who supposedly pay tribute to the Americans and suffer from it ..

              I remember our leadership of the 90s not only learned from the United States, but gave them everything, sovereignty, economic management and even writing laws!
              А received in response looting the country and DEMOCRACY!

              Hospadya .. I’m talking to you for the second day - where are we, and where are the Germans !!

              We got the plunder .. and the Germans got a pretty decent standard of living !! And, for this very reason, it is not for us to teach them !!

              Until now, we cannot collect the economy ............
              Somehow the Germans were able to collect, but we did not .. Maybe it was not in the reel ?? Maybe we have such collectors ?? Maybe we are looking for the enemy not there ??
              These are rhetorical questions .. for whatever reason was not, the fact is a fact - we need to learn life from the Germans, and not vice versa ..


              Unlike some, I think with my head, not my wallet ............... (I hope you understand the difference)

              I understand that ... that's why I wrote - don't teach the Germans how to live ...
              They are used to looking at the wallet too !! And count the money ..

              Now, if it's really hard to understand .. let's do just like in kindergarten .. in words ..
              Poor, poor Germans .. They dream of moving to "sovereign" Russia at night .. so as not to pay tribute, but to live humanly, finally ..))

              So, it says here that money and that way of life (without toilets on the street) are more important for the Germans ... well, what in our country is called "sovereignty" is inserted everywhere. as a reason for pride - it is less significant for them .. Especially if this "loss of sovereignty" allows them to live much better - maybe this is not a loss at all ??
              The bum in the trash heap also has more sovereignty than a person. who are obliged to go to work, pay rent, etc.
              So the Germans do not need this sovereignty for a gift .. (yes, any normal person doesn’t need it) .. It's just that for some reason, some people get stuck when there is food, money, good housing and transport, other conditions for life .. this is some sovereignty give it .. they have "not everything is measured by money" .. As if everything should be measured by sovereignty ..
              Now we have this sovereignty .. but we live anyway worse than the Germans .. So who of the two is a fool ?? Rhetorical question again.

              Will you be rude, boy? I'll translate you into your Neanderthal, but I'm afraid they'll be banned ...............

              Not at all .. This was just a request .. to think before writing ..

              For, only a Neanderthal can write:
              Germany differs from Ukraine, only in the presence of money in order to pay tribute to the Americans
              This person has one Russia in the first place .. we are sovereign type .. And all sorts of Germany there - ugh .. slag for us ..))
  19. Berber
    Berber 10 February 2021 14: 21
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    Quote: Roman070280
    German pensioners do not want the standard of living of our pensioners ..
    Therefore, they will continue to work with amers ..

    Let's give a detailed answer. And then the logic is not visible. Judging by what you write, Ukrainian pensioners live better than ours, because Ukraine fell under the United States.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 10 February 2021 14: 59
      +1
      Let's give a detailed answer. And then the logic is not visible. Judging by what you write, Ukrainian pensioners live better than ours, because Ukraine fell under the United States.

      Stick your Ukraine into every hole less, then the logic will be clear.
      My post is quite detailed in why it is more profitable for the Germans to cooperate with the states, and not with us ..
      1. Berber
        Berber 11 February 2021 13: 24
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        According to you, it turns out that they work with amers German retirees[b] [/ b] - here is your expanded post.
        In general, how do you connect this? And what did you want to express by this?
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 11 February 2021 13: 33
          +1
          In your opinion, it turns out that German pensioners are working with amers

          Of course .. not Russian ones ..
          A person first works during his life .. receives income .. After that he receives a pension ..

          So the Germans work with the Americans in many areas ..
          And their standard of living is also due to this factor ..
          As we can see, they do not want to receive sanctions from America in exchange for our pipe .. and therefore it is not profitable ..
  20. Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 10 February 2021 14: 24
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    Oh this business drinks
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2021 15: 10
    -2
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Quote: iouris
    Pay from both ends of the pipe (I think so). But the point is, $ 1.000.000.000 is a paltry amount.

    Yesterday, several American conspiracy forums actively discussed a message copied from one of the online boards warning of an imminent stock market crash and subsequent global financial reboot. A friend of mine works on Wall Street and said that among brokers there is such a rumor: when corporations will finish handing out bonuses over the past years, they are going to blow up the economy and do away with the dollar as the world's reserve currency. He said that it would be bad that the world had never seen this before, as it would be associated with long underfunding, with the collapse of state pensions, and also with bankrupt entire cities, states and sectors of the economy. He believes that municipalities are using the pandemic as a reason to gradually close prisons, schools, hospitals, etc. As Mr. AblePatriot writes on GLP, the stock market correction by 30% -50% will take place from March 1 to May 1. This view is shared by renowned market professionals such as Motley Fool Buffet, Ramsey and others. The only thing that Mr. AblePatriot adds is a “correction”, that is, the collapse of the Dow somewhere up to 15 points or much lower, will not happen by itself, but there will be some kind of trigger event that will become, as it were, a trigger. In light of the above, I think that both the respondent's message with a friend on Wall Street, and all these forecasts of financiers, tell about one thing - some kind of world financial crisis. It will happen, obviously, within the specified time frame - that is, somewhere between March 000 and May 1, 1, so we are following the development of events. ..What will our financial analysts answer?

    Is it time to buy salt / sugar / matches / buckwheat / pasta?

    PS Yes, I forgot the toilet paper !!!  laughing

    Let's wait and see that I have become afraid for the Germans whose economy has been in the red for three years. laughing
    1. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 10 February 2021 23: 38
      -2
      Don't be afraid for the Germans.
      They with their chemical industry
      while ahead of everyone.
      For this they need a Gazik, in fact.
  22. NF68
    NF68 10 February 2021 16: 23
    +1
    Americans need to grab everything. And preferably as soon as possible. What is this billion euros for them? There are not many fools in Western Europe who will buy expensive American LNG instead of Russian turbine, so there will be little sense in this billion.
    1. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 10 February 2021 23: 37
      -1
      What do you mean "must"?
      De facto, they grabbed everything.
      850 bases around the world.
      Full control of all economies.
      De jure, not everything
      but they will squeeze
      and this aspect.
      These are not groans, but facts.
      And the objectionable US is simply isolated.
      I wonder after the launch of the internet
      from Elon Musk, to blow up optical cables
      will the Americans themselves?
      1. NF68
        NF68 11 February 2021 17: 22
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        Quote: DKuznecov
        What do you mean "must"?
        De facto, they grabbed everything.
        850 bases around the world.
        Full control of all economies.
        De jure, not everything
        but they will squeeze
        and this aspect.
        These are not groans, but facts.
        And the objectionable US is simply isolated.
        I wonder after the launch of the internet
        from Elon Musk, to blow up optical cables
        will the Americans themselves?


        All but not all. So they are bustling about.
  23. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 10 February 2021 23: 33
    -1
    New Nuremberg is expected soon, once
    does the nemchura sprinkle ashes on his head?
  24. sgr291158
    sgr291158 11 February 2021 06: 23
    0
    Wouldn't it be easier, or send them with their sanctions to hell.
  25. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 11 February 2021 08: 17
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    ***

    The Germans do not want to change Nord Stream to Gulfstrom ...

    ***
  26. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 February 2021 18: 50
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    Quote: DKuznecov
    Don't be afraid for the Germans.
    They with their chemical industry
    while ahead of everyone.
    For this they need a Gazik, in fact.

    Oh, well, but I didn’t know ...... Is the fountain completely sick there? laughing Gazik he is immortal laughing