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Russian military refused to attend OSCE seminar on military doctrines

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Russian military refused to attend OSCE seminar on military doctrines

The Russian Defense Ministry refused to attend an OSCE seminar on military doctrines. This was announced by the head of the Russian delegation at the negotiations on military security and arms control Konstantin Gavrilov


For the first time in 30 years, the Russian military refused to take part in the OSCE seminar, explaining the refusal by the unfriendly policy of the West. The seminar is held every five years, it is attended by representatives of the General Staffs of the armies of the participating countries. This year it is being chaired by the United States on February 9-10.

The Americans invited us, there was a request. We answered them that in connection with the current situation on the Russian borders with the conduct of exercises, flights of reconnaissance aircraft of the Russian Ministry of Defense, we consider it inappropriate to participate in this seminar for the first time in 30 years.

- said Gavrilov.

He specified that the Russian delegation will take part in the arms control talks in "final remarks with a statement on military doctrines."

Earlier NATO stated that Russia will remain the "main threat" to the alliance, while NATO advocates a dialogue with Moscow on "peaceful coexistence", but only from a position of strength. Moscow is ready for a dialogue with the West, and all statements about the alleged threat from Russia are called "fiction aimed at increasing the military spending of the countries participating in the alliance."
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  1. Invoce
    Invoce 10 February 2021 09: 02
    +38
    Any state that opposes the plunder of its natural and human resources, defends its sovereignty and independence and strengthens its economy is an enemy and rival to transnational monopolies. The "states" of Western democracy are the second derivative of the US Federal Reserve ... In fact, there is neither sovereignty nor social orientation. No need to deceive anyone
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 10 February 2021 09: 07
      -3
      Information for consideration:
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 10 February 2021 09: 13
        +27
        We do not participate, but we did not say that we would not pry and eavesdrop. Belarus in this regard is our eyes and ears.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 10 February 2021 09: 24
          +27
          Russian Ministry of Defense refused to take part in the OSCE seminar on military doctrines.

          For the first time in 30 years, the decision of statesmen. How many beads can be thrown in front of this "OSCE".
          Now let the whole organization OSCE ... on fecal matter ...
          1. Sergey Nikiforov
            Sergey Nikiforov 10 February 2021 10: 07
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            But the point is not that. The point is that this is another step towards confrontation with the West. Why.? Yes, everything is simple We begs for all sorts of troubles, such as sanctions, then the answer to their evil intrigues, we stop letting our citizens out to Europe, such as fucking feed the rotten West with our tourists West is to blame
            1. KAV
              KAV 10 February 2021 10: 16
              +23
              Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
              this is another step towards confrontation with the West. Why.?
              And you, apparently, are proposing to agree with the West in everything, fold your paws to take off your pants and open your buns? No really, pipes! We, for the most part, see and understand what will become of us with such a policy. Thanks, but we don't need this!
              1. Sergey Nikiforov
                Sergey Nikiforov 10 February 2021 11: 08
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                The most interesting thing that needs to be understood We fucking don't need anyone in the West Ordinary Europeans live differently and care, and But we are simply afraid I can assure you that the wording is afraid means they respect the wrong case. They are afraid of our unpredictability. NATO consisted of two old planes of the German Air Force, Which once a week flew along the border AND EVERYTHING 2004 km to St. Petersburg No bases, nothing But since 20014 the border countries of Europe have tensed, think further
                1. KAV
                  KAV 10 February 2021 11: 43
                  +13
                  Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                  The most interesting thing to understand is that we don't fucking need anyone in the west
                  This is the most important and key misconception! If we were not needed by anyone, they would not come to us with their charter! And then, almost every day one can hear the screams of Western "partners" about human rights in Russia, about oppression of the opposition, about wrong policies, about erroneous amendments to the constitution, and much more! Why are they all coming to us if we didn't give up to them ??
                  Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                  Ordinary Europeans live by other care and but us
                  And all wars and coups begin and are carried out by far from ordinary Europeans! All this is being done by the political and shadow oligarchal elite of the West!
                  Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                  they are just afraid of us I dare to assure
                  Wrong again! They are not afraid of us, but they are afraid to go to war against us. That's why they squeal in bouts of greedy hysteria. Therefore, they train the fifth column in an attempt to overthrow the authorities and erect their puppets in their place (for example, Ukraine, Libya, Iraq, etc.)!
                  Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                  For the interest of all the Baltic states present in NATO since 2004 Until 20014, all NATO consisted of two old planes of the German Air Force, Which once a week flew along the border AND EVERYTHING 200 km to St. Petersburg No bases, nothing But since 2014, the border countries of Europe have tensed, further think
                  Everything is correct! Indeed, until 2014, the West believed that we had been lying at their feet for a long time and we would no longer be able to rise! And here they got it wrong! But, if now they put us at our feet again, then you can be sure, they will beat us to death! And they won't give us any second chance!
                  1. Sergey Nikiforov
                    Sergey Nikiforov 10 February 2021 12: 04
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                    Look less Solovyov read you, just carry out political information And you just go to any Western country, live there in any family for a month or two and then you will immediately understand what concerns they have. By the way, ask us, especially from those 20 million who even according to official data, they live below the poverty line Believe me, the results of the polls will greatly disappoint you
                    1. KAV
                      KAV 10 February 2021 13: 20
                      +14
                      Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                      Look less Solovyov read you-only carry out political information
                      Let me decide what to watch and what conclusions to draw. Respecting your and your right to choose, I will not advise you where to go.
                      Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                      And you just go to any Western country, live there in any family for a month or two and then you will immediately understand what worries they have
                      Alas, I will not be allowed to live with the families of Merkel, Macron, Biden, Soros and others like them. And ordinary families will not tell me about the real goals of the governments of these countries.
                      Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                      By the way, ask us, especially from those 20 million who, even according to official data, live below the poverty line Believe me, the results of the polls will greatly disappoint you
                      And what do the poor have to do with talking about the West's goals in relation to Russia? Or do you want to assure me that the West will come and feed all the poor in our country ?? Stop! No more of these tales.
                      1. Sergey Nikiforov
                        Sergey Nikiforov 10 February 2021 14: 20
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                        I want to assure you of only one thing, that all this hysteria is being started with only one purpose, to distract ordinary people from internal problems.If there is no enemy, then it should be created for the Authorities much easier. And if you are such a guardian for a just cause, then Read the defense doctrine of Russia , in the part concerning the use of nuclear weapons, I think of a few idiots in the world who will decide on a direct conflict with Russia But to exhaust us economically, with great pleasure We have already passed And Solovyov still look less
                      2. KAV
                        KAV 10 February 2021 15: 01
                        +9
                        Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                        I want to assure you of only one thing, that all this hysteria is started with only one purpose, to distract ordinary people from internal problems.
                        Not convinced. Tell me more that all these uncoordinated rallies of youngsters in support of Navalny are also a cunning trick of our authorities in order to distract people from problems ... actors of the Bolshoi Theater)? Are the demands of ambassadors and diplomats to immediately release all detainees - also a cunning move of our authorities to create an enemy image? So we can agree to the point that the entire collective West is happy to play along with our authorities to facilitate the creation of an enemy image. lol
                        Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                        But to exhaust us economically, with great pleasure
                        So the West is doing this. Finding reasons for imposing sanctions is not a problem.
                        Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                        And Solovyov still look less
                        You just can't do without advice? It says a lot ...
                        Sorry, but I am no longer ready to spend my time discussing this issue with you. You are not convincing.
                      3. Sergey Nikiforov
                        Sergey Nikiforov 10 February 2021 15: 38
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                        But you are convincing, there is nowhere else I suppose you are a full-time propagandist on Prilepin's party cell I also don't want to waste time on you Go to the store more often, compare prices with income and think, think, think
                2. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 10 February 2021 16: 13
                  +8
                  Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                  Look less Solovyov read you, just carry out political information And you just go to any Western country, live there in any family for a month or two and then you will immediately understand what concerns they have. By the way, ask us, especially from those 20 million who even according to official data, they live below the poverty line Believe me, the results of the polls will greatly disappoint you

                  It seems to be written in Russian, but something confuses winked What's wrong? what Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that in your nickname Nikiforov is written a little differently, namely Nikiforoff
                  1. Sergey Nikiforov
                    Sergey Nikiforov 10 February 2021 16: 30
                    .
                    If it seems they are baptized In the course?
                  2. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 10 February 2021 17: 24
                    +7
                    Yes, in the course, in the course ... The sign of the Cross is already completely baptized, but the doubt does not let go. request
                    Are you not from Odessa for Mother Russia and the people inhabiting it, but from what other country are you worried?
                  3. Sergey Nikiforov
                    Sergey Nikiforov 10 February 2021 18: 12
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                    No, from the very center of Russia, but believe me, unlike many here present, I honestly owed a debt to the Motherland, 32 calendars They do not live so much with preferential treatment But I am friends with my head
                  4. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 10 February 2021 19: 11
                    +6
                    Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                    Well no, from the very center of Russia, but believe me,
                    Who better than you to believe? I believe. I remember you wrote that you live 45 miles from the Vitebsk district, and this is either the Smolensk province or the Pskov province, which are more likely to belong to the border borders, but not to the center of Russia.
                    Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                    unlike many here present, he honestly owed a debt to the Motherland.32 calendars With preferential and-so they do not live so much But I'm friends with my head
                    This is a big rarity !!! You are unique!
      2. Artunis
        Artunis 10 February 2021 13: 57
        +14
        Here I agree with you owls - WE ARE the population of the Russian Federation to the West nafig is not needed at all! We need a territory and all the resources contained on it and in it, Hitler said so directly and carried out "events" to translate this idea into reality. And the one who claims the opposite is either a weak-minded person or an enemy, you need to call a spade a spade.
        1. Sergey Nikiforov
          Sergey Nikiforov 10 February 2021 14: 52
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          62% of the territory of our country, this is the territory of permafrost. Extraction of minerals is associated with huge material costs Example.? How long have you approached the Shtokman deposit? And what So do not replicate someone's nonsense, and turn on your head, not the TV
  2. BecmepH
    BecmepH 10 February 2021 11: 01
    +9
    Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
    Everything is simple We begs for all sorts of troubles, such as sanctions

    What nonsense)) Yes, even though we lick everything for them, they will still find fault. Either the tongue is too rough, then too wet ... It's high time to send them all ...
    We are a self-sufficient and Great Power! Having received a worthy rebuff, they will not dare to bully. Do you think they know the story badly?))) They all know and understand. And they yapped exactly until they hear a loud and menacing roar in response ...
    1. Sergey Nikiforov
      Sergey Nikiforov 10 February 2021 11: 30
      .
      Even cowards and those Chinese from a great power
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 10 February 2021 11: 34
        +1
        Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
        Even cowards and those Chinese from a great power

        So I am about the same!
        It's high time to send them all ...
        And all of you ss ..., shaking. Even stutter with fear
        But the point is not that The point is that this is another step towards confrontation with the West. Why.? Everything is simple We are asking for all sorts of troubles, such as sanctions,
      2. skif8013
        skif8013 10 February 2021 19: 30
        +10
        Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
        Even cowards and those Chinese from a great power

        Why the hell are you living in such a creepy place as you say ?! Enough to breed dampness, if you are a man, pick up the snot and go to where you go deeper!) And then they took the fashion to whine like in kindergarten!
  • frruc
    frruc 10 February 2021 21: 51
    +4
    Earlier, NATO said that Russia will remain the "main threat" to the alliance, while NATO advocates a dialogue with Moscow on "peaceful coexistence", but only from a position of strength .....

    In this case, let such a dialogue be stuck in a hollow. hi
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 10 February 2021 09: 45
    +6
    Quote: Canecat
    We are not participating, but we didn’t say that we wouldn’t spy on and eavesdrop.

  • figwam
    figwam 10 February 2021 10: 20
    +2
    NATO members want to know our doctrine, but fuck them.
  • BecmepH
    BecmepH 10 February 2021 10: 55
    -2
    Quote: Canecat
    We do not participate, but we did not say that we would not pry and eavesdrop. Belarus in this regard is our eyes and ears.

    I strongly doubt this role for Belarus. Life teaches them nothing. They are not for us and not with us. That's for sure...
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 10 February 2021 09: 29
    +3
    Someone should listen to this heresy! Especially with rear-wheel drive, dad is not a recognized President. And at the end ours will be connected to put the final point. hi drinks
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 10 February 2021 09: 38
    +2
    Quote: Thrall
    Information for consideration:

    And then there is nothing to think about
    Everything as usual request
  • venik
    venik 10 February 2021 10: 39
    +3
    Quote: Invoce
    Any state that opposes the plunder of its natural and human resources, defends its sovereignty and independence and strengthens its economy is an enemy and rival to transnational monopolies. The "states" of Western democracy are the second derivative of the US Federal Reserve ... In fact, there is neither sovereignty nor social orientation. No need to deceive anyone

    ========
    good In! That is why I consider Russia's participation in this "talking shop" absolutely SENSE! Listen to the next attacks and withstand the "buckets of slop" ... Yes, they all went to ...... (in general - exactly - THERE, where they should go!).
    It is necessary to talk exclusively SPECIFICALLY: START-3, INF Treaty, "Open Skies" (and only taking into account our national interests! And nothing else ... And all these "talking houses" like the OSCE, the HRA, etc., etc. - no need for figs !!! Let them (vassals of "transnationals") "defecate" among themselves!
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist 10 February 2021 09: 02
    +8
    No peaceful statements are needed. Optimal - "We carefully observe, draw conclusions".
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 February 2021 09: 44
      +1
      Quote: Botanologist
      No peaceful statements are needed. Optimal - "We carefully observe, draw conclusions".

      Precisely "observe". And not to believe more than one word from the West and the United States, these are sheep in sheep's clothing.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 10 February 2021 09: 47
      0
      Quote: Botanologist
      "We closely observe, draw conclusions."

      And we act as we see fit
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 10 February 2021 09: 03
    +5
    Without a statement about "coordinates of real targets introduced into ballistic missile guidance systems" this is the level of kindergarten.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 10 February 2021 09: 31
      0
      You are minus, probably for the coordinates on ukrovermacht worried! hi
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 10 February 2021 09: 45
        +3
        Quote: tralflot1832
        You are minus, probably for the coordinates on ukrovermacht worried!

        But there are also pluses!
    2. Gato
      Gato 10 February 2021 09: 56
      +5
      Gee-gee. Here's a universal template for diplomatic protest notes:
      "Dear% username%! Please specify your coordinates" hi
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 10 February 2021 09: 58
        +2
        Quote: Gato
        "Please specify your coordinates"

        "Brilliant, be our brilliant coordinator!" lol hi
        1. Gato
          Gato 10 February 2021 10: 02
          +3
          Ingenious

          soldier laughing
          Our CEO's secretary doesn't pronounce the letter "r". Therefore, he will never fire her.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 10 February 2021 09: 04
    +7
    We did it right! The Supreme Commander said: Let's strike at the decision-making places! Period.
    1. Gato
      Gato 10 February 2021 09: 28
      +6
      Yes ... If someone attacks us, they will immediately get in a brazen Anglo-Saxon face.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 10 February 2021 09: 50
        +1
        I am closer to the occupation of the military to the south of Italy, Spain (Canary Islands), well, to the extreme Florida with their cracoidols.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 10 February 2021 09: 48
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The Supreme said: Let's strike at the decision-making places! Period.

      So now let these "points" scratch their turnips
  • NDR-791
    NDR-791 10 February 2021 09: 05
    +2
    The Russian military refused to attend an OSCE seminar on military doctrines ...
    ... NATO stands for a dialogue with Moscow on "peaceful coexistence", but only from a position of strength ...

    Well at least the army can say its firm NO !!! And while leaving the last word! good
    the Russian delegation will take part in the arms control talks in "concluding remarks with a statement on military doctrines."
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 10 February 2021 09: 33
      +1
      All the same, the normal upbringing of children remains!
  • rocket757
    rocket757 10 February 2021 09: 24
    +4
    Much worth giving up, in view of the uselessness, even harmfulness of those gatherings!
  • Gato
    Gato 10 February 2021 09: 24
    +4
    And what is the essence of such seminars? General stackers gather, take plans and doctrines out of sealed portfolios and start measuring them against each other? No, seriously, I don't understand the meaning of such events.
    1. HAM
      HAM 10 February 2021 09: 30
      +2
      Well, where else can military "lions" and "lionesses" demonstrate costumes with orders !?
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 10 February 2021 09: 50
        +1
        Quote: HAM
        Well, where else can military "lions" and "lionesses" demonstrate costumes with orders !?

        Direct fashion show of some kind laughing
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 10 February 2021 09: 50
      +2
      Quote: Gato
      No, seriously, I don't understand the meaning of such events.

      Squeaks are measured who barked louder at Russia
      1. Gato
        Gato 10 February 2021 09: 52
        0
        Well, and why the Russian delegation? Sit on the jury to assess the number of decibels? laughing
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 10 February 2021 09: 59
          +1
          Quote: Gato
          Sit on the jury to assess the number of decibels?

          Whoever scored more deserved more goals to hit laughing
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 10 February 2021 09: 54
        -4
        And it turns out that we have not only a shorter rocket, but also more squeak. A three-liter can of Vaseline will help?
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 10 February 2021 09: 59
          0
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Will a three-liter jar of Vaseline help?

          Milk flask for 40 liters will not be enough
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2021 09: 55
    +1
    Quote: Thrall
    Information for consideration:

    So daddy kinks let him appear there in person laughingThey will sip, warm up and assign to the Hague in a separate number laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2021 10: 08
    +2
    Diogenes had no big deal, economically. And, for example, the economically powerful Macedonian came to him himself (for some reason) and was sent far .......  laughing PS Between Diogenes and Macedonian I forgot Aristotle. laughing
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 February 2021 10: 24
    0
    NATO advocates dialogue with Moscow on "peaceful coexistence", but only from a position of strength
    Does Moscow need such a "dialogue", or rather a Western monologue with reproaches and threats? Therefore, the Russian side did the right thing by sending it diplomatically.
  • Lexus
    Lexus 10 February 2021 10: 52
    -6
    As in a joke about a representative of the peoples of the North, who "deceived" the taxi driver - paid, but did not go. What devil is there to "membership" on "bird" rights, wipe trousers, get cuffs and feed them with considerable contributions? The guards and minus-kremblevotam, who consider this amount insignificant, I propose to chip in for the same and support the Military Review.

  • iouris
    iouris 10 February 2021 12: 54
    -1
    Well ... it turns out that not only financial, but also military doctrine ...
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 10 February 2021 17: 55
    0
    What are they discussing there in the OSCE seminar on military doctrines? Are they measuring their letters?
    1. Thompson
      Thompson 12 February 2021 16: 43
      +1
      Yeah. Without reaching. A gentleman's word!
  • Thompson
    Thompson 12 February 2021 16: 40
    +1
    Very interesting - the OSCE is a European organization! Which side is Matrasia on? The host is at the head of the table! And they blather that we are the aggressors!
  • Thompson
    Thompson 12 February 2021 16: 42
    +1
    Quote: lexus
    Guardians and minus-kremblevotam

    I'm sure all the cons, including mine, are for this! There's nothing to put up labels