Journalist Semin about Navalny: David's victory over Goliath did not happen

In his statements during the trial, blogger Alexei Navalny showed his true nature. For the West and those who continue to worship him in Russia, the trial of Navalny was supposed to be a complete defeat for the Kremlin. As Konstantin Semin says about this in his issue of Agitprop, "David's victory over Goliath should have taken place."

Konstantin Semin:

But life is not the Bible. David's victory over Goliath did not happen. Again, Goliath won, and David was sent to the corner.

The journalist notes that some individuals saw Alexei Navalny's speech in court as something similar to Fidel Castro's speech. But some kind of absurdity came out - with another insult to the veteran, with reflections about the actor Okhlobystin.

Navalny is clearly not becoming the leader of protest sentiments in Russia. And this is the whole fiasco of the project - a project started by those who are going to rock the situation in Russia. For any normal citizen of Russia, what Navalny carried in court is repulsive, not closer to him, to his point of view. And a simple thing has become understandable for many: this person does not have his own point of view. When there is no pre-prepared text in front of him, his speech turns into hysteria, nothing more.

Konstantin Semin notes that it is time for pro-Western liberals to understand a simple thing: abroad will not help them, there is no need to hope.

Comments

[Israel]

Of course, what kind of politician is Navalny, you just have to listen to him at the debates. But if there are no changes in Russia, then the country will repeat the sad experience of the USSR, just the current generation of schoolchildren and students who know nothing about the 90s and are not at all afraid of their repetition will be the core of protest, which was the generation of people born after 50 -s, who wanted changes ("chewing gum", "jeans", "a better life", down with the party nomenclature, equality and all that) and were not "afraid" of what could be worse.

[210ox]

I already wrote that I do not exclude the arrival of the "tagged 2.0" on this wave. After a certain time. Yes, the authorities should think about it.

[Lexus]

Konstantin Semin notes that it is time for pro-Western liberals to understand a simple thing: abroad will not help them, there is no need to hope.

Yes, the authorities should think about it.

How can that be? After all, the "rowers" built cozy "nests" there, stolen acquired by back-breaking labor and relatives were evacuated. Some even go to work from there, remotely.

[saigon]

Sergei, however, in the 17th year, at first all the same polished gentlemen betrayed and sold the Tsar and the representatives of the authorities and precisely the upper echelons of the empire.
And the turmoil began, Denikin gave this characteristic to the then situation in the country.

[Dart2027]

Quote: saigon

all the same, the polished gentlemen betrayed and sold the Tsar and the representatives of the authorities and precisely the upper echelons of the empire's power

That did not prevent them from being the one about whom the poem speaks.

[raw174]

Quote: saigon

Sergei, however, at the age of 17, at first all the same polished gentlemen betrayed and sold the Tsar

Revolutions are started by romantics, fanatics commit, and scoundrels use the fruits.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: raw174

but the scoundrels use the fruits.

Which continues to be done as a result of the revolution of 91!

[Mk Ve]

In 1991, to use the terms correctly, there was a counter-revolution. And the revolution was in 1917.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Mk-Ve

to use the terms correctly, there was a counter-revolution

These are templates, nothing more. For this assessment can be so expressed only from the point of view of one of the parties. Globally, there was a revolution in both cases, only in the 17th it was socialist, and in the 91st it was bourgeois.

[Mk Ve]

You are mistaken, revolutions do not happen twice, if a bourgeois revolution took place in RI in February 1917, then it cannot be a second time. The monarchy was replaced by capitalism, this is a revolution, socialism was replaced by capitalism, this is a revolution, but capitalism was replaced by socialism (1991), this is already counter-revolution, because this movement is not forward to progress, but back to regression. And revolution is always progress. Just don't confuse the revolution and the coup.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Mk-Ve

but capitalism replaced socialism (1991), this is already counter-revolution,

Everything is relative to the point of view, for capitalism the 91st revolution, for socialism counter-revolution.
The same applies to progress - for Abramovich, there is definitely progress now!

[Mk Ve]

Quote: Ingvar 72

for capitalism 91st revolution

And as I said, this is not correct, but rather a deception. There was already a bourgeois revolution in Russia, in 1917, and there cannot be a second time, in 1991 there was a counter-revolution.

[A1845]

Quote: Mk-Ve

the revolution in Russia already took place, in 1917, and there cannot be a second time

for the same money, the revolution cannot be stirred up a second time, but this is not a hindrance - there are more than enough payers for color revolutions

[Alexandres]

And here is a double-edged sword. Either bandits led by Putin and Shoigu remain in power, or a coup d'etat will happen. In the first case, there are almost zero chances. Putin and a Tuvan will die - the country will fall apart. Rivers will spill blood. And then the intervention. In the second, the same thing can happen, only to a lesser extent.

The bottom line is that the cancerous tumor must be removed before it is too late. The USSR did not dare to treat on the operating table: be treated with charlatans and folk medicine. As a result - the collapse of the union

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Ingvar 72

for Abramovich, there is definitely progress now!

But Deripaska "partners" shod .... And in Cyprus, many of which have lost! But they keep quiet about this. Out of modesty ...

[NKT]

Revolution and coup are one and the same.

[Alex_1973]

NKT (Sergey)
Revolution and coup are one and the same.

Maybe for a start, at least open "Aunt Vika" and finally see the difference ?! Or so bad?

Revolution (from late Latin revolutio - turn, coup, transformation, conversion) - radical, radical, profound, qualitative change, a leap in the development of society, nature or knowledge, coupled with an open gap with the previous state. Revolution as a qualitative leap in development, as faster and more significant changes, are distinguished both from evolution (where development occurs more slowly) and from reform (during which a change is made to any part of the system without affecting the existing foundations).

Coup d'état (abbreviated coup d'état) - change of power in the state, inevitably carried out in violation of the current constitutional and legal norms, usually with the use of force to seize the centers of government and the implementation of physical isolation (arrest or liquidation) of its current leaders.

For those who are still on the armored train, I inform you that in February 1917 there was a STATE REVOLUTION, but in October 1917 there was exactly the GREAT OCTOBER SOCIALIST REVOLUTION! For there was not just a change of power, but a change of the system from capitalism to socialism. If you do not know this, then you are ignorant, and if you know and lie, then you yourself know who ... a woman with reduced social responsibility or Alyosha anal ...

[NKT]

Don't you read anything in your life besides the wiki? Open a collection of works by Lenin or Stalin. Well, the last sentence reveals you very clearly who you really are.

Lenin's speech at the Petersburg Council of R. and S. D. October 26, 1917).

Comrades! Workers and Peasants revolution, about the necessity of which the Bolsheviks were talking all the time, has come to pass.
What is the significance of this worker and peasant revolution? First of all, the meaning of this coup consists in the fact that we will have a Soviet government, our own organ of power, without any participation of the bourgeoisie.

And Stalin's article is even titled like this
«October переворот and the national question ”.

Great worldwide importance Oktyabrsky coup is mainly that it:
1) expanded the scope of the national question, turning it from a private question of the struggle against national oppression in Europe into a general question of the liberation of oppressed peoples, colonies and semi-colonies from imperialism

[sleeve]

Not ... At 91 there was a liberal one. If you don't dig deep. We are the most revolutionary country after France. There is more, but we have a tighter time frame.

[Alex777]

In 91g. in the USSR there was a putsch of the State Emergency Committee.
The members of which party organized it will not remind.
This putsch (an attempt at a military seizure of power) failed.
What gave EBN the opportunity and reason to destroy our country.
What revolution 91g. you say here - I cannot understand.

[sleeve]

The revolution? Well, they curtailed the socialist form of government and property control and replaced it with a liberal one. The final chord of the 1985-1987-1989 processes. The "modernization" of the Union was essentially a murder not only of ideological content, but also of the state itself and, which is very important, of the social order. Private property has become the main violin, i.e. we can talk about a revolutionary process. So "revolution" is quite classical. Without the "Auror" and sailors with "mosinki" for the advantage (the inevitable bloody payment naturally followed, in other forms). And EBN? Well, yes, but what about without an ambitious "leader" with his own "reasons"? Here he is ... the leader.

[Mk Ve]

Congratulations, without thinking, you repeated the nonsense.

[saigon]

I will be wary of calling the lords who betrayed the Tsar romantics, rather a mercantile bastard, selfish interests.
Fanatics are also somewhat controversial, a lot of romantics make revolutions.
Well, as for the fruits of the revolution after the collapse of tsarism, the fruits were seen not only by scoundrels (this is about 17 years old), but I don't know about 91.

[MstislavHrabr]

And you do not admit that "the representatives of the authorities and precisely the upper echelons of the empire's power" can again betray the "Tsar"? ... Then there will be a revolution ... Moreover, first in February, and only then, if the experience of February 1917 is nothing will not tell - October!

[A1845]

Quote: MstislavHrabr

can betray the "king" again

and for the umpteenth time, including with a fatal outcome

[Plastmaster]

Quote: saigon

And the turmoil began, Denikin gave this characterization to the then situation in the country

Again, this is Denikin's version. You yourself know that the bourgeois revolution took place in the order of the West. And not so much with a large number of purchased, supposedly domestic politicians. The same as the bulk. And the elite, the polished gentlemen could only suffer, think, dream. And so the tsar and the provisional government were profiled. I do not mind that we again come to the dictatorship of the proletariat. After all, there is more rot than in 1917. The country needs a very large tidy.

[saigon]

So let's put a dot above and, so to speak. Comparing the politicians of the beginning of the century with Navalny is not entirely correct, the Tsar was brought down and handed over to the imperious scoundrels (Ambition, money, and let them steer).
The difference between the then elite and the nonesh is striking, simply radical.
A large percentage and weight of the military, in contrast to the traders and officials, now the military elite has merged the king!
Remember the fact in February 17 of the year, what a foolish BROTHER of the tsar at the head of the guards naval crew, and with a red bow on his chest he was noted in the revolution ..

[major147]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: 210ox

I already wrote that I do not exclude the arrival of the "tagged 2.0" on this wave

[don-1500]

A member of the forum with the nickname "major" offers everyone here "To live with dignity, you need to plow !!!" Is this humor?

[sleeve]

What options are there? DO NOT plow?

[major147]

Quote: don-1500

A member of the forum with the nickname "major" offers everyone here "To live with dignity, you need to plow !!!" Is this humor?

If you were a "dear" fellow countryman (judging by your nickname) a little more attentively, you might have noticed that my post with a picture where a scarecrow is burned on Maslenitsa is a response to the post of the respected "Lipchanin" where he really "offers everyone here" What to live worthy, we must plow !!! ", in which I strongly support him, because all my life I" plowed ", as you put it. And after retiring from service, I" plowed "for six and a half years without any vacation. for ten years of such "plowing" I have grown from the initial position of the head of one of the departments to the director of the plant. Accordingly, I "plowed" not for thanks, and now being on a well-deserved rest I have no need to moan about the plight. Which I wish everyone!

[don-1500]

Precisely, this is Lipchanin, you had a carnivore. I apologize.

[major147]

Quote: don-1500

I apologize.

[kotvov]

... Accordingly, I "plowed" not for thanks, and now being on a well-deserved rest I have no need to moan about the plight. ,,
Listen, plowman. I have a miner's seniority and a pension of 13600. Today I was in a day hospital, where I was told that a friend has a sister who worked, shifting papers, first in the KGB, then in the FSB. So she has a pension of 52 thousand. Can we compare how much health she lost and how much did I?

[major147]

Quote: kotvov

Listen, plowman.

I did not serve in the KGB-FSB, although on both "Chechens" I often participated in operations with them, and they worked out their money in full. I have not worked in a mine and have a very superficial understanding of miner's work, but I do not think that it is easy. If you have noticed, after my resignation I went to work in production. No one forced me to "plow" there without vacation and is not standardized in time. I wanted to earn money, provide for myself and my family. And I did it. Who poked you in the back with a gun? Who did not let you work in a higher-paying job in the same KGB-FSB? The same would have now 50 sput. You made the decisions yourself, why complain and envy others now?

[kotvov]

I worked in the mine until they began to close down everywhere (1998). Then it was too late to retrain, I had to work where at least something could be earned. When I retired, a woman, who worked as a CLEANER all her life, did it with me. So our pensions were a penny-for-penny. And this can only say that this power put on the hard workers. You can be seen to be proud of your pension and this regime, but I can only give an assessment, this power is criminal. And remember, I never envied thieves.

[major147]

Quote: kotvov

THIS power put on the hard workers.

In your opinion, the salary of a person who cleans the cesspools of toilets (the work is dirty, but no less necessary and respected in my opinion) should be higher than that of a professor of medicine who studies and gains experience all his life?

[kotvov]

It should be sufficient, not sucked out of the finger. Why shouldn't the people who determine the minimum live on it for two months. I could tell a lot about salaries, but I won't, as you are convinced that everything is fair in the country. Only this kind of "justice" led to the year 17. Then a force was found capable of preserving the country. And now I already doubt whether Russia will remain?

[major147]

Quote: kotvov

you are convinced that everything is fair in the country

"There was no justice, and there will never be" - that's why I taught my children. Under any power, there will always be dissatisfied people. Here's an increase in pension, for example to you (note, when I address you personally, I write "you" with a capital letter. If you write "you" with a capital letter, then you are referring to an indefinite number of people), they will be outraged, again for example retired military personnel, t. to. they risked their lives and health for the money they are receiving now. And so on and so forth. Personally, I don't like everything right now, but that's okay. Dissatisfied were under the tsar, and under the Soviets, and now. Personally, I am for the fact that there were rich, but not the poor.

[kotvov]

Mention ,, you ,,, I mentioned in connection with the fact that you are a lot. And there were an order of magnitude less dissatisfied with the Union, as people began to understand what the Ozero cooperative is. And their number will only increase and this despite the fact that the number of the population will decrease.

[major147]

Quote: kotvov

dissatisfied with the Union, there were much less

I disagree with you. I am 62 years old, and I perfectly remember the times of the Soviets. Time of general deficit, queues, specials. distributors for those in power. Of course the miners at that time lived fine, but for everyone else there was little joy.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: major147

I disagree with you. I am 62 years old, and I perfectly remember the times of the Soviets. Time of general scarcity

This is how the miners raised the buchu. Soap and footcloths were not enough for them.

[kotvov]

Don't lie, I'm the same age as you. He also worked at KBC, women had salaries either on par with miners or slightly less. Even with all these deficits, everyone had everything (well, of course, who wanted to). Those who did not want to WORK went to a salary of 120-150 rubles. Then there was a choice, now what will come across.

[major147]

Quote: kotvov

Do not lie

Are you accusing me of lying !? Follow your tongue! I'm from Rostov n / a. The town of Shakhty, from which the mining region begins, 60 km. from U.S. Before being drafted for military service in 1977, I worked at the Rostselmash plant as an electrician, and my wife then worked in the mining town of Krasny Sulin, and I know the difference in salary firsthand. And the supply was completely different. I could not buy diapers in a city with a population of one million - flannel undershirts for newborn sons. They had to travel to the mining towns and villages after them. From the army came a decent jacket not to buy in Rostov was. For that in some village, in a rural store I bought a real jacket "Alaska" made in Japan, Osaka. Still hanging in the garage. Of course, in order to make good money on PCM, you could go to work on an assembly line. Only out of curiosity I went to look at their work. The conveyor is moving, let's plan! The nut is not tightened - with a hammer! The bolt does not go - use a sledgehammer to replace it! The main thing is to report - the plan is fulfilled! The salary is high "earned"! The management will receive awards. And we, young people the next day from our workplace, for the same money, with a tool on the "mountain" (the place was so called where the ready-made combines were) to fix the jambs of "leaders". The army was sent to harvest, and I take it and boast to the combine operators that I worked for RSM, so I almost burned out with shame from their assessments of our work and the quality of combine harvesters.
You write that you are lying, my upbringing simply does not allow me.

[kotvov]

Listen here, ,, successful ,, retired, to me for your upbringing, somehow the same. I understand how events will develop further (when the board is reset to zero). As you easily changed your shoes (probably you were a party member), there is no place for the country in prosperous capitalism, it will continue to become an appendage of raw materials. Why were you silent when the bolts were hammered?

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

A member of the forum with the nickname "major" offers everyone here "To live with dignity, you need to plow !!!"

That's right, this is not our method !!! Take away and divide - that's our way

[Igoresha]

and what to plow? plowing in the sense of cultivating the soil is one thing, but if plowing in quotes is another. An old Russian proverb about those whom work loves has not yet been canceled, there are not enough cash positions

[Cat]

After a certain time

[Lionnvrsk]

Navalny is clearly not becoming the leader of protest sentiments in Russia. And this is the whole fiasco of the project - a project started by those who are going to rock the situation in Russia.

Quote: 210ox

I already wrote that I do not exclude the arrival of the "tagged 2.0" on this wave

IP Navalalny project ends. The project of IP Navalalny's wife will start soon!

[saigon]

The Bulk wife project is an easy and not dangerous option, the worst is all against everyone.

[vik669]

It's a pity - you won't have to live in this wonderful time - neither me nor you. They wrote much earlier than ...!

[Bolt cutter]

the current generation of schoolchildren and students

Out of nothing to do, I went to his muzzle book. In the comments on his page, half of his supporters are Ukrainians. And although they do not like him for "Crimea is not a sandwich", they do not hesitate to say that if Russia has more problems, it will be easier for us. You look and take Crimea back. Every tenth supporter is also Georgian. Of this public, a good third live in Florida or some other Belgian region The maidens often have Western surnames - like Olena van der Gulten from Rotterdam - moved in marriage, that is, and wishes the Russians freedom as in their native Vinnitsa ... And it’s the Russians — some kind of cocktail of small businessmen, kamvkhor, and — attention — of officials and education workers. Many of them also settled in America. Something like this.

[Israel]

And although they do not like him for "Crimea is not a sandwich", they do not hesitate to say that if Russia has more problems, it will be easier for us. You look and take Crimea back.

This is only in dreams, even if everything in Russia is so bad that it will not be able to defend Crimea, completely different countries will take it away, for today's Ukraine the task is to preserve what it is now.

[Bolt cutter]

It's only in dreams

This is clear. I wanted to highlight their logic, why they support bulk, so that Russia has problems.

[businessv]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

they support bulk-so that Russia has problems.

Many have already noticed that Square lives by the principle "the worse the neighbor is, the happier we are!" Water, electricity - what's in the queue today for a shutdown? Do they think that by such actions they can attract the favor of the Crimeans?

[beeper]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

the current generation of schoolchildren and students

Out of nothing to do, I went to his muzzle book. In the comments on his page, half of his supporters are Ukrainians. And although they do not like him for "Crimea is not a sandwich", they do not hesitate to say that if Russia has more problems, it will be easier for us. You look and take Crimea back. Every tenth supporter is also Georgian. Of this public, a good third live in Florida or some other Belgian region The maidens often have Western surnames - like Olena van der Gulten from Rotterdam - moved in marriage, that is, and wishes the Russians freedom as in their native Vinnitsa ... And it’s the Russians — some kind of cocktail of small businessmen, kamvkhor, and — attention — of officials and education workers. Many of them also settled in America. Something like this.

Exactly the same story is with the "quiet" Belarusian "zmagars", for a long time already citizens of the United States (however, they keep "for convenience" also the passports of the Republic of Belarus, which they then hypocritically present when they come "on leave" renounce their Motherland and solemnly swear, against signature, in unquestioning total devotion, not sparing their belly, exclusively to the US state interests! - this is if, suddenly, some of our readers do not know the "initiation ceremony in an American citizen" ...), but, in many respects biased-mercantile (after all, for example, having bought apartments in the Republic of Belarus with their dollars, and renting them out to local citizens through proxies, these overseas citizens - "familiar BCHB patriots" by all means evade paying legal taxes on income to the Belarusian treasury, and the authorities "under Lukashenka" strictly observe the laws and punish violators, because local officials, even of very high rank, can be severely punished for malfeasance and bribery oh, therefore, they are not at all as bribed and shamelessly stealing as in the neighboring, already pro-American "democrat", razmaydanny and until the very bottom of the "uncorrupted", "Ukraine", where, under the supervision of Washington curators, bureaucratic lawlessness, impunity and arbitrary anti-people "Maidans" were elevated to a militant Banderonazi "absolute" ...) eager to "bring" deriban amerocolonial "freedom (from observance of the Constitution) and democracy (in promoting anti-popular, antihuman Western" human values ​​")" to Belarus!
I just personally knew and know (since childhood and youth, the former neighborhood, vollens-nolens, we still communicate on the Internet ...) some of our former compatriots, Ukrainian and Belarusian, sort of "wonderful-hearted patriots of foreign affairs" (who have long become US citizens !))), many personally, ideologically and materially contributed or contribute to the pro-American "Maidan" coups (coup attempts, as now in Belarus) in the former Ukrainian SSR and BSSR, but by no means intending to ever live here ... these "enlightened" Maydauns-zapadoids, allegedly "with the best intentions", "selflessly carry" the dastardly colonial "banner of American democracy" on the head of their former fellow citizens ...
Looking from the "razaydanny" Zakordonia, I see this hypocritical Russian "blogger" as a vile Judeo-Mazepa, as well as "our" amero-Marionette "Fuhrer of the Maidan" - "a noteworthy oppositional anti-corruptionist" (and, with the help of Washington, having seized in the occupation administration "Ukraine", the most shameless mega-thief!) Senya Rabbit- "KulyaVloba (BulletVlob)" is an example of "successful Maidan implementation" of this kind of unprincipled mercantile subchiks, a "w / Bandera" analogue of the Russian "anti-corruptionist" Sisia!

[saigon]

Forgive me, but what's the point of going to their administrations they have that many rights?
Do you believe that local administrations are the main plunders of capitalist goods? Not for advertising purposes, the administration of our region, you will not believe it, but they work well, to the best of their authority.
And it is a very big and dangerous mistake to consider the youth as boobies.

[Svarog]

Quote: Israel

Of course, what kind of politician is Navalny, just listen to him at the debates

He's really no politician .. and his program is the same .. well, maybe with a difference that he won't steal .. But here's what he showed the population how he was being robbed .. it's good .. the country should know its heroes.

then the country will repeat the sad experience of the USSR, just the current generation of schoolchildren and students who know nothing about the 90s and are not at all afraid of their repetition

The country is repeating it .. everything is moving towards the 90s. Especially in the economy, but in politics it is quite sad to become, here the vector to the Republic of Ingushetia is taken, with all that it implies .. Sole ruler with a team of pensioners who have not done anything significant for 20 years .. As the population declined, it continues, only the pace has accelerated .. as we were dependent on the West in terms of technology, and remained .. after the collapse of the industry of the USSR we did not build anything of our own .. how we kept money in enemy currency and beyond the hill, so we keep it .. In general, everything is stable .. with a minus sign ...

born after the 50s, who wanted changes (“chewing gum,” “jeans,” “a better life,” down with the party nomenclature, equality and all that) and were not “afraid” of what could be worse.

Change is good. Changes were needed ... but it was changes, and there were not changes, but betrayal. And all the worst, today's managers have taken over from there .. and all the best, for some reason they killed.

[Bolt cutter]

with the distinction that he will not steal.

Of course not, he will redistribute everything stolen by honest means to honest people. Honest people are those who support him, Navalny. For example, Khodorkovsky, Chichvarkin (this is one of those who do not hide) His children will plow for the good of the Power in the state offices for more money, so that others do not steal ... Naturally, bosses.

[Svarog]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

with the distinction that he will not steal.

Of course not, he will redistribute everything stolen by honest means to honest people. Honest people are those who support him, Navalny. For example, Khodorkovsky, Chichvarkin (this is one of those who do not hide) His children will plow for the good of the Power in the state offices for more money, so that others do not steal ... Naturally, bosses.

About that and speech..that sewed on soap .. some thieves will replace others .. But the fact that a criminal case was brought against Platoshkin is a clear chaos. Which shows the whole cowardly essence of today's usurpers of power.

[businessv]

Quote: Svarog

And all the worst, today's managers have taken over from there .. and all the best, for some reason, they killed.

Today's managers do not know how to create, they are destroyers, not creators, unfortunately! If, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, they could not preserve what was ready and working, then how can they create something ?!

[Doliva63]

Quote: businessv

Quote: Svarog

And all the worst, today's managers have taken over from there .. and all the best, for some reason, they killed.

Today's managers do not know how to create, they are destroyers, not creators, unfortunately! If, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, they could not preserve what was ready and working, then how can they create something ?!

Don't worry, today's executives are great at creating - look at their fortunes!

[businessv]

Quote: Doliva63

today's managers are great at creating - look at their fortunes!

A bit wrong! As for me, so not create, steal will be more correct!

[Doliva63]

Quote: businessv

Quote: Doliva63

today's managers are great at creating - look at their fortunes!

A bit wrong! As for me, so not create, steal will be more correct!

And this is the cost of interpretation, no more. For the very essence of capitalism is robbery.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Svarog

But this is what he showed the population how he was being robbed .. it's good .. the country should know its heroes.

I heard about the same thing when I was a schoolboy, only then the country was called differently and other people had power.

[Svarog]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Svarog

But this is what he showed the population how he was being robbed .. it's good .. the country should know its heroes.

I heard about the same thing when I was a schoolboy, only then the country was called differently and other people had power.

What have you heard? That we have 20 million beggars, while the number of billionaires is only multiplying? Or did the general secretaries build castles for themselves? Yes, at that time, even the secretary general did not have what the mayor of some seedy town has ..

[strannik1985]

What have you heard?

Navalny gave guarantees that the new government will be better, just like the EBN in its time ???

[Dart2027]

Quote: Svarog

What have you heard? That we have 20 million beggars

That our entire population is poor, and a handful of party leaders steal and fatten.

Quote: Svarog

Yes, at that time, even the secretary general did not have what the mayor of some seedy town has.

At that time, only a big boss had what any hard worker can now buy for himself, and without cronyism.

[Plastmaster]

Quote: Svarog

Yes, at that time, even the secretary general did not have what the mayor of some seedy town has ..

I didn't understand why my vision of the situation was erased. What did I write about this ..... If further comments are about the same ..... We have removed the previous meeer, for an alleged bribe. Meeeer was a stranger. Now, as it were, dear. His work is more evident in fact. Here it is necessary to restore order from the places. And periodically loud. To support in other regions ... About their own ...

[A1845]

Quote: Svarog

well, maybe with a distinction that he won't steal ..

Do you think that what he has already stolen is enough for him?

[credo]

Quote: Israel

Of course, what kind of politician is Navalny, you just have to listen to him at the debates. But if there are no changes in Russia, then the country will repeat the sad experience of the USSR, just the current generation of schoolchildren and students who know nothing about the 90s and are not at all afraid of their repetition will be the core of protest, which was the generation of people born after 50 -s, who wanted changes ("chewing gum", "jeans", "a better life", down with the party nomenclature, equality and all that) and were not "afraid" of what could be worse.

Looking at a similar rabble that has entrenched itself in the Ukrainian parliament, acquired mandates of deputies and the title of politicians, Navalny looks no worse than their background, it was just that they managed to overthrow the legitimate government and imprison outright demagogues, idle talkers, thieves and even murderers, and in Russia, such how it did not work.
Until it rolled. But if the government does not pay attention and allocate funds in the required amount for education, medicine, law enforcement agencies, economic recovery and increasing social protection of the population, then it is quite possible that such as Navalny, Bykov, Rynska, Shenderovich, Chirikova or Kasparov will find a response in souls of immature and offended people and will again take out their squares, the country will not be good.

[businessv]

Quote: credo

But if the government does not pay attention and allocate funds in the required amount for education, medicine, law enforcement agencies, economic recovery and increasing social protection of the population

It's not about the means, colleague! The point is in the system that needs to be changed. To begin with, change the ruling party to a socially oriented one.

[Israel]

But if the government does not pay attention and allocate funds in the required amount for education, medicine, law enforcement agencies, economic recovery and increasing social protection of the population, then it is quite possible that such as Navalny, Bykov, Rynska, Shenderovich, Chirikova or Kasparov will find a response in the souls of immature and offended people and again will take their squares out, the country will not be good.

As far as I know, funds are allocated in a decent amount, another question is that not all of them reach and even this is not the biggest problem, this is the "charm" of democracy, it allows you to "drain" protest sentiments in a non-violent way. In this regard, in the United States, the bipartisan system ideally makes it possible to create the appearance (and sometimes it really does) of a change of power, which makes a big protest seemingly meaningless, well, in fact, why break the country when in four years you can go and vote, and the fact that the powers of the same president are limited to two terms, it works well (over 200 years), although let's see how the American system will pass the test by Biden and the control of both chambers by the Democrats.
In the case of Russia, the real power and the “talking head” have not changed for 20 years, plus objectively there are problems that not only are not solved, but also worsen over time, and all this can catalyze the process in the future, when, under the ideas of combating corruption, reforming the constitution , down with the oligarchs, etc., will begin to “break” the country. Well, and the worst thing is that this can happen if Navalny, Chichvarkin, Khodorkovsky and the like come to power in Russia, then all relatives will need to be taken out), although I don't believe in this, they are not like those who are able to take power in Russia ...

[Finches]

In this case, I liked this:

“Representatives of the embassies of the USA, Canada, Great Britain, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Austria, Czech Republic, Bulgaria and Japan attended the court session in the case of Alexei Navalny. All this time, Estonian diplomats were waiting for the landing of the plane with Navalny at Vnukovo airport "

As the saying goes, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye, there were more foreign curators than sympathizers, a strong, independent Russia stands across the throat for everyone ... - Navalny must be shot, along with all the FBK and relatives up to the third generation, that such a geek was created! The 5th column must appear before a military tribunal - better than a troika ... That will be fairer!

[Israel]

Navalny must be shot, along with all the FBK and relatives up to the third generation, that such a geek was created! The 5th column must appear before a military tribunal - better than a troika ... That will be fairer!

This is the worst thing that the Russian authorities can do, I do not understand why Navalny was arrested and given a term and they are trying to start new cases, thus only giving him political points, making him a victim and at the same time a “fighter” against the regime.

[Finches]

He was arrested according to the law, but he must be shot according to his conscience!

[Svetlana]

Of course, what kind of politician is Navalny, you just have to listen to him at the debates. 

And who is he if not a politician? Baker - Turner?

[VORON538]

Blocher he is :))) Not very honest :))

[Svetlana]

No, not a blogger. With blogging, he, yes, when he started. But today he is no longer a blogger. Bloggers are "Other" (now he has disappeared somewhere), Colonelcassad, Varlamov with Bozena. The same "Petty Officer of the Reserve" who pretended to be killed is also a blogger.
Bloggers, unlike him, do not rush to power. They make money from content, not from leadership.

[Israel]

Blogger- ”journalist”, engaged in leaking compromising evidence, various “journalistic” investigations. Why is he not a politician in my understanding, at least on the basis of the fact that he could not organize a party normally, so that it would not have a circus with horses? My opinion is that Navalny's maximum is a state deputy. thoughts.

[Svetlana]

The party is an administrative thing. Chairman, congresses, candidates, contributions, etc. and so on. The youth on whom he relies and from whom the pioneer and the Komsomol were taken away and nothing was given in return, this is not necessary.
And a State Duma deputy is already a politician (from which the conversation began) and not a business executive. But he will not pull into the State Duma. After all that he has done lately, he will not gain votes. And "a thief should go to jail."

[Alexandres]

That is, the problem is not that Khrushch put the union on an oil needle or Prezhnev sat for almost 20 years and died in a chair, but in the wrong generation? Think narrowly.

[Cowbra]

Which Goliath? Which David? David by nationality from that pack is rather Bykov, who nee Zilbertrud, and even then, from literary characters, both of them are more like a bad boy -

Sits Malchish-Plohish, eats and rejoices.

Do you want to tell me that this "it" looks like a beggar Jewish shepherd?

[210ox]

I applaud while standing.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 210ox

I applaud while standing.

Here's what I found on the internet

[Lipchanin]

To an anonymous minus player navalnenk and his followers

[Alexandres]

It is known that Tolstoy's daughter is studying at Yale. Some kind of shitty Patriot turns out.

[Leon68]

Join us!

[smart ass]

Damn, I haven't even tried crabs

[Cowbra]

Nothing. Tuta one bulk for all! And eats and steals. And all alone. Can you imagine how tired he is? Bloody redhead. No to help Hiro

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Clever man

Damn, I haven't even tried crabs

So do I. But I used to take shrimp on a regular basis, but now I can't afford it, at all. I love their infection with beer, I can easily 3 kilograms in one mug. Recently, in general, I have clung to food, cheese, cottage cheese, meat, fish, all this has become less in the diet.

[ANB]

... Damn, I haven't even tried crabs

Urgently serve or work for Kamchatka :)
In the 90s I could not afford potatoes, but I ate crabs.
You can also try sea urchins and octopus caviar.
However, I do not want to go back there.

[A1845]

Quote: Cowbra

Do you want to tell me that this "it" looks like a beggar Jewish shepherd?

the astonishing fact that echoes and all such others so support the de facto anti-Semite
they are ready to sell everything for money

[Bolt cutter]

so support actually anti-Semite

He tried to break into power as an anti-Semitic nationalist. It didn't work, he became an anti-corruptionist. I just changed my role on stage. His goal is power at any cost. If there is a failure, he will go to communists Will tighten the theory only

[A1845]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

Will tighten the theory only

What for?
the text will be written, Google will translate, everything is as usual

[Poetry]

Mr. Navalny
With a cheeky face
Puffing, he climbed onto Parnassus.
And he wanted to spit on us.

Spit on the flame of the eternal flame
Just think, Victory! It's all bullshit ...
Millions more dead bodies
He also didn't care.

I don't care about the law, about the power.
It would be sweet for him to sleep and eat to his heart's content ...
He ought to live somehow beautifully.
Everything else is delirium of a gray mare.

Spit on the Motherland, which is sick,
And to her people, who would. for
All idiots, he is the only one normal,
Alyosha by the name of Navalny.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Poetiszaugla

Spit on the Motherland, which is sick,
And to her people, who would. for
All idiots, he is the only one normal,
Alyosha by the name of Navalny.

[Gado]

Hello, Sergey! And again to the point! Although, as for me, Navalny did not deserve to write poetry about him.

[Poetry]

Welcome.
An upright and talking two-legged animal is still God's TV. ar.
PS Although, I would remove the word "God".

[Prisoner]

Well, which of Navalny is David? David is a man, he did not hide behind other people's backs, especially for children. Bulk dishonest crook pretending to be a politician.

[Baloo]

Quote: Captive

Well, which of Navalny is David? David is a man, he did not hide behind other people's backs, especially for children. Bulk dishonest crook pretending to be a politician.

He will now have a new business project in the near future

[Cowbra]

Leshka in the north is a polar bear song ... "Leshkoy interfering with snow"

[IT Professional]

In the Vladimir region, he is ... in Kolchugino ..

[Alexandres]

Can children be involved in political events of the "United Russia"?

[aars]

Even according to the data of Navalny's supporters, from a quarter to a third of the protesters completely trust him, partially about half.
He was never a popular leader, from the category of fishless and cancer trout.

[Bolt cutter]

from a quarter to a third of protesters fully trust him, partly about half

According to former comrades-in-arms, Navalny pays them the same - even his close associates he meets only with bodyguards.

[7,62x54]

Bulk is a valve that drains protest sentiments. And it allows you to calculate especially dissatisfied.
I would not be surprised if it is supported by both the Kremlin and the West.

[Svarog]

Quote: 7,62x54

Bulk is a valve that drains protest sentiments. And it allows you to calculate especially dissatisfied.
I would not be surprised if it is supported by both the Kremlin and the West.

Yes, very much like that ..

[A1845]

undoubtedly, such an opposition is the best support of the current government, but I would not overestimate the capabilities of the Kremlin's political strategists

[aars]

He is definitely supported by the oligarchs, there was information about his financing through the structures of Potanin.

[The eye of the crying]

Navalny at least tried it. And Semin is a cheap talker.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Navalny at least tried it.

And he showed everyone what all these screams about "popular indignation" are worth.

[Prisoner]

Yeah, I tried it. And now there is no place to put samples on the lech.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

And Semin is a cheap talker.

Are you dear?
Here you are right, the Semin budget does not bother, in contrast to the Prigozhinsky trolls, who receive their 30 pieces of silver from taxes from the already poor population of Russia.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Are you dear? wink

I'm generally dumb. I don't even have a YouTube channel.

[Snail N9]

Is Lesha-Sisyan lying? So attract him for lies and slander. But this is not the case. They are attracted for anything, but not for slander and lies in this particular film. From the word "absolutely". So ...

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Snail N9

Is Lesha-Sisyan lying? So attract him for lies and slander.

If they are not attracted, then there are reasons.

[nikvic46]

I love to listen to Konstantin. And other leftists educate the people. But it turns out like Zhvanetsky did: “You watch TV-Yo-mine. And you go out into the street, everything is the same.” If the left does not go down to scale, and will first teach the workers to legal literacy. Some district committee will announce that everyone who wants to get free legal advice will give more than hot appeals. All of them stigmatize the oligarchs who rob the people. But if you put a question to the next herald, you will get an answer - questions are accepted only from sponsors.

[Warrior MorePhoto]

Salaries were issued to the propogandons, the rates are increasing)
Soloviev and Kiselev still quote, in general there will be excellent diarrhea

[72jora72]

Soloviev and Kiselev still quote

Kiselev stopped looking after he began to "drown" the pension reform, and so clumsy and disgusting ...

[Vadim Ananyin]

Yes, he was not anyone and will not be, what a clownery!
What are you about ?!

[sergo1914]

It's fun to read the comments anti-naval. Bile - in streams. No arguments. One swearing. Like grandmothers at the entrance. Not a politician, say sofa politicians. An agent of the State Department, the sofa Stirlitz say. You yourself are not disgusted with writing this nonsense? Well, on the debate - I agree. Better than GDP, no one holds debates in our country.
PS And they have come up with this creatively since February 14th. Maybe the flashlight will light up in the Kremlin?

[Dart2027]

Quote: sergo1914

It's fun to read the comments anti-naval. Bile - in streams. No arguments. One swearing.

And what wise thoughts will they have ... You yourself don't mind writing this nonsense?

[Santa Fe]

Do you want facts? I have already quoted these FACTS more than once

1. Bulk is disgusting outwardly, like Khrushchev. People do not want leaders with such an appearance, the leader of a great nation should not look like that. Where the hell are the image makers why are they bad at work

2. Navalny has no merit. No career, no titles, no feats, no military orders, no protege, no recognition among colleagues. You can't really explain what he did all his life

3. Whoever chose Navalny for the role of opposition leader, there was probably no worse candidate. An unknown blogger with a sick face, who studied in the USA,and not even trying to hide this fact... Not serving in the army, insulting veterans and power structures of Russia - for a candidate for the post of President of the Russian Federation this is an impossible set of input parameters

[Igoresha]

1. Bulk is disgusting outwardly, like Khrushchev

and further point by point ... almost INTO our Ukrainian Yanukovych, only he was in prison for theft and this one for the fact that he is fighting thieves

[for]

LTD...!!! How many zhurnalyug, authors, etc. are trampled upon in bulk. You can make a lot of money from this by building a brand.
Themselves are promoting it, there would be no way to give it to oblivion.
NAVALNY (forbidden word in Russia, a fine of 1000000 ... rubles)

[Growlers]

They flattered Navalny with such a comparison, flattered him .... Only he cannot be David by definition .... because his whole image is the merit of Western and pro-Western media and nothing else. But in fact, a petty petty little man in the service of the West, even not so with the special services

[yehat2]

Don't even try to rock it - the government and the Duma themselves do it.
no matter what the law is, it’s complete trash, no indication is a broken bottom of insanity.
It is enough just to honestly convey to people what the top authorities are doing.
These people themselves will shatter and ruin everything, we can only dodge what will come to us during the process. But people want a less painful process of change, preferably not a fatal one.

[Gregory Charnota]

anyone can sway the regime, especially with outside help
but to offer control over the government and organize a real opposition in the country
and not pocket parsley of the State Department it is necessary to sweat and work.
what losha oval does not want to do

[ser.rudov2016]

The authorities got a click on their noses and woke up thanks to the dedication of Navalny, who was not afraid to come after treatment. The government, out of fear, found 500 billion to donate to the electorate before the elections to the State Duma, and Siluanov had to look for money for a decent salary for scientists.