The rich get inflation and the poor get higher prices

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About this - either nothing, or only good


Alas, prices, even with a complete failure of demand for very, very much, still surpassed the benchmarks outlined by our economists during the government. Instead of 3,7–3,8%, which the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank expected to reach, it turned out to be 4,9%.

But I don't really believe in such a modest figure. In reality, the situation with prices is about the same as with the weather. When the officially announced four-odd percent of growth is "felt" as 10. Or even all 15%. Especially in the most sensitive areas.



And this means - more (and significantly) than by 4,9%, the prices for food and essential goods, housing, utilities and transport have risen. We will return to the main one. And we will make a reservation about the latter. And here it's not even about gasoline. Although he has jumped in price already to frightening heights.

If we talk about transport for the majority of citizens, then it is not even surprising, but frightened by the cynicism with which in the same capital (and also in quite a few regions) they decided to “save” pensioners by blocking social cards for them. Those with the right to free travel.

Here, the contribution to inflation (and not taken into account in any way) turns out to be simply prohibitive. From scratch - to the “tariff for everyone” level. But you still need to ride. And you have to.

Yes, here, at least for doctors and specialized pharmacies, which I recently encountered in practice, when I had to move from the Moscow region to the capital. The transport blow to the budget turned out to be very powerful - almost half a thousand in one sortie.

Did you ask us?


That's all about transport!

Let us limit our journalistic zeal to a dispute about the inflation that we were recently informed about not only from Rosstat, but also from practically all interested departments.

I repeat - it has already been announced and recorded that inflation in 2020 was 4,9%. At the same time, at the end of 2021, we are promised no more than 3,5-4%.

Note - exactly inflation. Not rising prices.

I have already written many times that these are different concepts. That is, as a percentage of inflation, the speech (and calculation) is again about how the entire available money supply exceeds the total volume of goods and services.

But it is not at all about what citizens see on the counters and in payment vouchers for housing and communal services. Therefore, the Public Opinion Fund has recently joined the officials who "estimate prices".

The FOM decided to interview citizens how they felt inflation in 2020 and what they expect from prices in 2021.

I will not spread for a long time, the information is not confidential. I will only note that according to the calculations of sociologists, the same 4,9 percent, the majority of the population perceived the rise in prices as approximately 12-13 percent.

Moreover, the public, for whom the purchase of new cars, jewelry and high-quality equipment is the norm, practically ignores the rise in prices. Many (more precisely, about 28% of those), in general, are sure that really "consumer" prices are not growing at all.

And the expectations, as the FOM specialists found out, the worse the more people have accumulated. And it is clear that this is directly related to the fact that because of the rise in prices, savings are being consumed. Those who have not accumulated anything, or have accumulated very little, and have nothing to lose. So they don’t worry.

The rich get inflation and the poor get higher prices

But on the soil or in the field?


At the dawn of market transformations, the same Chubais, being deputy prime minister, not only in privatization, but also, by the way, in the social sphere with the consumer market, did not really hide that he regularly makes a kind of inflationary stash for the treasury.

Then, after all, the tariffs regulated by the state were always raised earlier than everything else. One might think that things are different now. But if Chubais did this really for the treasury, you see, he would be forgiven a lot.

In fact, the ground for default and he (and others like him) loosened to the envy of any Argentina. The current anti-crisis managers from among the hardened liberals, who have ridden the economic bloc not only in the government, but also in real business, have fought hard for 4% inflation for many years.

They called it "target". I remember very well, may the readers forgive me for such nostalgia, that in the center of Rome there is a good restaurant with the same name, which is actually translated from Latin as “chain”.

If it was really planned to put prices on the chain - this is the goal, the most good one. However, more than ten years have passed since the first serious crisis in the new millennium, and it has not been possible to catch the rise in prices at the same 4%.

At first, measures to deal with the crisis got in the way. Then the sanctions. Again the crisis and again the sanctions. In 2019, it almost worked out. But then a pandemic broke out - what a convenient excuse for many.

A whole new generation of bureaucracy has grown up in the field of the fight against inflation. And his methods are noticeably different from those used by the same "privatizer of all Russia."

The current bureaucrats work thinner. But the propaganda of their actions for the benefit of the Russians is being conducted more impudently at times. It seems that it is not for nothing that it is said that in our time even reputation is nothing, but image is everything!

Here's how - no one expected


In conclusion, a little about your own, about the girl's.

StoriesI know that some of my colleagues had similar ones. Many years ago, the executive secretary of one of the very reputable newspapers managed to put me, a novice correspondent, literally into a stupor.

And this - in just two short conversations. At first, accepting my highly original text on social issues, he immediately stated:

"But no one wrote about this?"

A day later, when I, slightly correcting the note, as they say, brought its content closer to people, I received in response:

"So everyone has already unsubscribed about this!"

Today, in the presence of the Internet and social networks, everyone writes about literally everything. Try to excel here, but no one has a monopoly on the topic. This is to say that writing about prices is never harmful.

Moreover, it was really possible to cope with them, it seems, only under Stalin.

My own grandmother and mother helped me to believe this (always more than the Pravda newspaper), with nostalgia recalling seasonal price reductions, sales, and discounts.

In turn, perestroika and reformers convinced the entire Soviet people that with prices, which had already gone to pieces by the beginning of the 90s, either competition, or even Gaidar's

“Iron hand of the market”.

For almost three decades, we all had to make sure from personal experience that no one managed to cope with prices.
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  1. +31
    10 February 2021 15: 04
    Rich money in dollars keeps inflation on its side .. it is just shifted to the poor.
    By the way, they announced today that all gadgets will rise in price by 25%, and by the spring by another 25%.
    1. +15
      10 February 2021 15: 11
      “Iron hand of the market”.
      order with prices will not bring, and the people will strangle!
      1. +17
        10 February 2021 15: 13
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        “Iron hand of the market”.
        order with prices will not bring, and the people will strangle!

        The hand of the market is so .. she thinks about the people in the last place .. and then, only when the people decide to cut .. for this, yes, it is not the "hand of the market" who can think about the people, but a socially oriented patriotic leader.
        1. +6
          10 February 2021 15: 20
          For almost three decades, we all had to make sure from personal experience that no one managed to cope with prices.

          Whatever the authorities did and thought of in order to direct the people in the right direction to address social issues ... And things are moving towards the fact that this is the path that most of the country's citizens will choose for themselves.
          1. -14
            10 February 2021 16: 00
            Quote: ROSS 42
            For almost three decades, we all had to make sure from personal experience that no one managed to cope with prices.
            .

            maybe because no one knows the nature of price increases? ...
            go to study at universities in economics ... the issue of price increases will disappear by itself ...
            but for lazy people I will reveal a little secret:
            1. with the existing model of the world order, prices will ALWAYS grow !!!!!
            2.I will reveal one more secret - all goods / services in the world = all US dollars ..... the quantitative easing policy does not tell you anything? .......
            1. +25
              10 February 2021 16: 39
              Quote: NEOZ
              but for lazy people I will reveal a little secret:
              1. with the existing model of the world order, prices will ALWAYS grow !!!!!

              Uh-huh. The only question is the size of this growth. In the USA from January 2010 to December 2020 inflation was 20,6%, in our country - 100,5%
              And the existing model of the world order says that only LOW inflation stimulates economic development. High - kills her
              1. -6
                11 February 2021 11: 45
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Uh-huh. The only question is the size of this growth. In the USA from January 2010 to December 2020 inflation was 20,6%, in our country - 100,5%
                And the existing model of the world order says that only LOW inflation stimulates economic development. High - kills her

                Andrey, you upset me ...
                you write not as an expert, but as a propagandist!
                Why do you indicate inflation at 100%, but do not write that the purchasing power of the population, if it has decreased, is no more than 10% in 10 years of tough confrontation with the "West"?
                1. +6
                  11 February 2021 13: 18
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  why do you indicate inflation at 100%, but do not write about the fact that the purchasing power of the population, if it has decreased, then no more than 10%

                  Because it is big inflation that kills the economy. Regardless of the rate of growth of wages. This is economics, and it is precisely its foreign interpretation.
        2. +15
          10 February 2021 15: 24
          Well, about the patriotic leader it is famously said ... but alas, the system that the Darkest One has built eliminates those.
          1. +12
            10 February 2021 15: 50
            Let's not be shy and call everything by their proper names .. Bourgeois NEVER nominate a patriotic leader from among their midst. Only a communist can be such.
            1. +16
              10 February 2021 16: 27
              Quote: paul3390
              The bourgeois have NEVER nominated a patriotic leader from among their midst.

              There will never be such people - "shop discipline" will not allow to appear.
        3. +3
          10 February 2021 15: 26
          Quote: Svarog
          The hand of the market she is

          Very much like non-brothers: "Come to the market - put things in order"!
          1. +22
            10 February 2021 15: 29
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            Quote: Svarog
            The hand of the market she is

            Very much like non-brothers: "Come to the market - put things in order"!

            Yes, we are not much different from them .. only more resources .. and so, oligarchy, nepotism, bribery .. well, and most importantly capitalism ..
            1. +24
              10 February 2021 16: 24
              Their bourgeois, even in the wettest worlds, could not resist so much.
        4. +10
          10 February 2021 15: 47
          The hand of the market is so ... she thinks about the people in the last place

          Come on .. How does it not think? And how. And in whose pocket does it go first? Not Rotenberg ..
        5. -19
          10 February 2021 15: 52
          Quote: Svarog
          when people decide to chop ..

          and what does this "people" need? ... why are you not enough all the time? .... what do you lack?
          1. +28
            10 February 2021 16: 47
            Quote: NEOZ
            and what does this "people" need? ... why are you not enough all the time? .... what do you lack?

            Well, yes, well, a salary of 17 thousand, this is the middle class! In the family, two work, this is already as much as 34 thousand. Divide by four (we will assume that they have two children), as much as 8,5 thousand turns out. You can not deny yourself anything)))))
          2. +26
            10 February 2021 17: 00
            Quote: NEOZ
            And what does this "people" need?

            The Russian government has set the level of the subsistence minimum for the population. The government has not yet succeeded in establishing the subsistence level.

            From the election program of "United Russia": "Poor oligarch - a shame for the country!"
        6. -33
          10 February 2021 16: 04
          Quote: Svarog
          and a socially oriented patriot leader.

          these are the ones who have coddled 22 million. own citizens from 1917 to 1922 ???
          1. +17
            10 February 2021 16: 50
            Quote: NEOZ
            these are the ones who have coddled 22 million. own citizens from 1917 to 1922 ???

            Well, yes, it is necessary to hang the blame for the civil war on the Bolsheviks, but were the "whites" "angels" and only gave flowers to the people? Stop lying, it was the white people who unleashed the civil war.
            1. -19
              10 February 2021 16: 54
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              it was the whites who unleashed the civil war.

              how?
              1. +18
                10 February 2021 17: 10
                Quote: NEOZ
                how?

                Do not look in Google? Google for "Czechoslovakian mutiny", "intervention". To put it simply, we can say that the civil war began with the Czechoslovak mutiny.
          2. +26
            10 February 2021 17: 04
            Change the photo, do not disgrace the great man who alone did more useful for his country and people than all of you, enemies of the Bolshevik-Communists, in 30 years for those large and huge incomes and salaries that you had, to justify the capture of the USSR by slandering them, cowardly dumping the blame on them for your crimes, including the war unleashed by you after the October Revolution with the aim of capturing Russia.
            1. -4
              11 February 2021 11: 51
              Quote: tatra
              Change the photo, do not dishonor the great man who alone did more useful for his country and people

              who was shot by his country led by the Bolshevik-communists ....)))))))
              Explain how this could happen?
              also explain how the Bolshevik communists destroyed the USSR?
              1. +5
                11 February 2021 12: 46
                Why the heck did you put it on your avatar at all? By the way, I have noticed this more than once among stupid anti-Soviet people. Straight intrigued because of what kind of cockroaches in your head you are doing such crap.
                1. -3
                  11 February 2021 13: 00
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Why the heck did you put it on your avatar at all?

                  I am impressed by the results of his activities under the circumstances.
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  By the way, I have noticed this more than once among stupid anti-Soviet people

                  what about your upbringing? it lame on both legs .... usually, if education is lame, then education is also lame ... my condolences ...
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Directly intrigued because of what kind of cockroaches in your head you are doing such crap.

                  where do you see the contradictions in my words?
                  1. +2
                    11 February 2021 13: 49
                    Which ones? Executions and other things about what the Liberakhs like to cry so much? Can you still try not to lie? And with regards to my upbringing, I terribly do not like it when the guardians try to hang me on the ears. Get used to it in general.
          3. +8
            10 February 2021 19: 22
            these are the ones that killed
            hundreds of civilians on October 3-4, 1993. They are still in power.
        7. +12
          10 February 2021 16: 30
          The "hand of the market" only satisfies itself, the people remain "on you, wretched that I don't like it."
        8. +25
          10 February 2021 16: 57
          Quote: Svarog
          It is not the “hand of the market” that can think about the people, but a socially oriented patriotic leader.

          Putin:
          - In 2021, Russians will be 2 times richer!
          - What year?
          - Than in 2022.
          1. +21
            10 February 2021 17: 00
            Quote: nils
            Putin:
            - In 2021, Russians will be 2 times richer!
            - What year?
            - Than in 2022.

            Although funny .. but not funny .. in fact it turns out.
        9. +2
          11 February 2021 06: 35
          Quote: Svarog
          it is not the “hand of the market” that can think about the people, but a socially oriented patriotic leader.

          1. The next "patriotic leader" also has friends, relatives, neighbors in the garden.
          2. Until people take responsibility for themselves and shift everything onto their uncle, and this will never happen in Russia, poverty in the country is inevitable.
      2. +10
        10 February 2021 17: 25
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        order with prices

        The prices are still half the trouble ... I noticed this thing: with the same price for food, the quality and weight are falling. Moreover, it falls noticeably. I bought a sausage at one time. So it, at the same cost for several months, began to weigh less, and the taste / quality dropped sharply. It's the same with some drinks.
    2. +22
      10 February 2021 15: 19
      Quote: Svarog
      all gadgets will rise in price by 25%, and by spring by another 25%.

      Here is the trouble, so the trouble. There are no gadgets, food will rise in price with medicines, this is scary. The poor are scared, the rich are right here they wrote
      the public, for whom buying new cars, jewelry and high-end technology is the norm, virtually ignores the rise in prices.

      They don't care. And to stop the rise in prices with a formidable shout from the center - well, it's not serious at least. It's ridiculous and ridiculous.
      "Locomotive, stop! One, two."
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        1. +14
          10 February 2021 15: 34
          And here's more news on the topic:
          Russian cosmonauts lodged a complaint about the work of the Cosmonaut Training Center (Cosmonaut Training Center), Roscosmos told Interfax.

          Sources of Moskovsky Komsomolets told about the detachment's dissatisfaction with the decrease in the quality of training, excessive bureaucratization and a large difference in the salaries of cosmonauts and the leadership of the Center.

          Roscosmos confirmed the receipt of the complaint and reported that it is considering various options for supporting the astronauts. The members of the detachment asked the head of the state corporation Dmitry Rogozin to transfer the cosmonauts into direct subordination to Roscosmos. Rogozin, in turn, reported this request to the president.

          Several years ago, Gennady Padalka, the record holder for the total duration of space flights, left the cosmonaut corps.

          After leaving, he criticized the work of the CPC and accused its leader, Yuri Lonchakov, of nepotism and personnel policy based on the principles of personal loyalty, not professionalism.

          https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/aktsii/rossiyskie-kosmonavty-vzbuntovalis-iz-za-nizkikh-zarplat-1030060019
          1. +14
            10 February 2021 15: 37
            Well, as usual, another "achievement" in Roscosmos:
            The creation of the Russian Yenisei super-heavy carrier rocket for flights to the Moon has been suspended, its technical appearance will be determined by the middle of the year, said Dmitry Baranov, general director of the Progress Rocket and Space Center (a Roscosmos enterprise).

            "The situation here is quite complicated ... Today, it is possible to correct its appearance, so now this issue has not yet been fully resolved. It is possible to correct the technical appearance of the rocket," he told reporters.

            "Therefore, now the work, I would say, is paused. We are ready to continue work after the appropriate decision is made. I think this is a matter of several months, I would say so - until the middle of this year," Baranov added ...

            https://ria.ru/20210210/luna-1596788839.html
            1. +12
              10 February 2021 16: 34
              It is necessary to "try" to get the cosmonauts mad. "Dyremary" and then "flashed".
            2. +14
              10 February 2021 16: 54
              Quote: Snail N9
              Well, as usual, another "achievement"

              Well, the quotes should be removed. Really an achievement. In the third year, I drank, I apologize, the development of budget funds, effective managers came to the conclusion that it was time to decide what we were going to build. Progress is evident.
          2. +25
            10 February 2021 16: 46
            Quote: Snail N9
            And here's more news on the topic:
            Russian cosmonauts lodged a complaint about the work of the Cosmonaut Training Center (Cosmonaut Training Center), Roscosmos told Interfax.

            Sources of Moskovsky Komsomolets told about the detachment's dissatisfaction with the decrease in the quality of training, excessive bureaucratization and a large difference in the salaries of cosmonauts and the leadership of the Center.

            Roscosmos confirmed the receipt of the complaint and reported that it is considering various options for supporting the astronauts. The members of the detachment asked the head of the state corporation Dmitry Rogozin to transfer the cosmonauts into direct subordination to Roscosmos. Rogozin, in turn, reported this request to the president.

            Several years ago, Gennady Padalka, the record holder for the total duration of space flights, left the cosmonaut corps.

            After leaving, he criticized the work of the CPC and accused its leader, Yuri Lonchakov, of nepotism and personnel policy based on the principles of personal loyalty, not professionalism.

            https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/aktsii/rossiyskie-kosmonavty-vzbuntovalis-iz-za-nizkikh-zarplat-1030060019

            well, if the astronauts are already underpaid and underpaid request Bottom!
        2. +12
          10 February 2021 15: 38
          But another problem is growing - they began to delay, and even this salary.

          Well, what is not the 90s .. very close. And what have they been doing for 20 years that everything repeats itself? The question is rhetorical. hi
          1. +13
            10 February 2021 16: 38
            An insatiable belly and bottomless pockets were stuffed.
        3. +3
          10 February 2021 15: 48
          I think all this was arranged for them in bulk, he is probably to blame.
          Need to work, albeit without a salary, and not whine ??
          1. +12
            10 February 2021 16: 44
            Quote: Revival
            Need to work, albeit without a salary, and not whine ??

            For the promised paradise, but after death. Harchi search in free deadwood.
          2. +29
            10 February 2021 16: 47
            Quote: Revival
            Need to work, albeit without a salary, and not whine ??

            I suppose you are an altruist? Do you work "for this" or do you still pay the entrance fee?
      2. +17
        10 February 2021 15: 33
        The problem is that tablets, laptops and other electronic gadgets have long since gone from luxury to necessity. This applies to everyone, schoolchildren, students, and production engineers.
        1. +1
          10 February 2021 15: 38
          Quote: Van 16
          The problem is that tablets, laptops and other electronic gadgets have long since gone from luxury to necessity. This applies to everyone, schoolchildren, students, and production engineers.

          Yes, yes - "Digitalization technologies in Russia - the era of changes has come" ... and that's it .. the material base - goodbye ... but you can talk ..
        2. -27
          10 February 2021 16: 06
          Quote: Van 16
          The problem is that tablets, laptops and other electronic gadgets have long since gone from luxury to necessity.

          a laptop for work (study) costs 18000 rubles. smartphone 5000 rubles ...... are there people for whom it is expensive?
          1. +21
            10 February 2021 16: 56
            Quote: NEOZ
            are there people for whom it is dear?

            About a third of the citizens of the Russian Federation.
            1. -20
              10 February 2021 16: 57
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              About a third of the citizens of the Russian Federation.

              what are you writing? on what basis?
              1. +23
                10 February 2021 17: 04
                The median salary in the Russian Federation is 35. For a family of 3 people, 60 will remain clean. 15 meals per nose, five communal apartments, plus transport, medicine in general, and masks in particular, washing and washing. Not enough already. And this is 3 people .... And if there are two children? What if one of the parents is out of work? And if not the median, but lower, like exactly half of the employed?
                Laponka. A quarter of the population of Russia is poor. For them, cowards are a serious purchase. A cheap laptop for 18 .... It is cheap for those who like to talk about macaroshkas and patriotism.
            2. -21
              10 February 2021 17: 00
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              About a third of the citizens of the Russian Federation.

              According to the M.Video-Eldorado Group, in 2020, Russians purchased about 3,1 million laptops worth 140 billion rubles, which is 30% in pieces and 55% in money more than a year earlier. Every fourth laptop in Russia was purchased from M.Video or Eldorado. The category has shown double-digit growth since March 2020. Buyers chose mainly standard full-featured models with a display from 13,5 inches and above, costing from 35 rubles. The average check was 000 rubles. Consumers chose not only the classic configurations - the demand for more expensive and powerful gaming models has approximately doubled.
              1. +32
                10 February 2021 18: 23
                Quote: NEOZ
                According to the M.Video-Eldorado Group, in 2020, Russians purchased about 3,1 million laptops worth 140 billion rubles, which is 30% in pieces and 55% in money more than a year earlier.

                you can also put it this way: 3% of the richest Russians own almost all the cash savings and financial assets in the country. 10% of Russians have at their disposal 90% of the national wealth.
          2. +14
            10 February 2021 17: 01
            Quote: NEOZ
            laptop for work (study) costs 18000 rubles

            What are you talking about? 18 thousand I will see how you will process photos or videos on it. For study, it may be enough, and then there you have to make presentations and work with photoshop. And if I take a new computer for work, I'm afraid to see how much it will cost.
            1. 0
              11 February 2021 03: 37
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              And if I take a new computer for work, I'm afraid to see how much it will cost.

              For 160 you can take what you want ...
            2. +5
              11 February 2021 12: 49
              He's just a dumb guardian. And that's it.
              1. +4
                11 February 2021 12: 57
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                He's just a dumb guardian. And that's it.

                There have been a lot of them lately. Not so long ago I picked up my chieftain for writing comments, says that the authorities "strongly recommend" to write comments on political sites.
                1. +4
                  11 February 2021 13: 54
                  Quite possible. For example, our bosses strongly recommended that we go to the polls. In principle, the logic is clear here. To stay in power by any means. Protection of class interests.
          3. +11
            10 February 2021 17: 04
            Quote: NEOZ
            Quote: Van 16
            The problem is that tablets, laptops and other electronic gadgets have long since gone from luxury to necessity.

            a laptop for work (study) costs 18000 rubles. smartphone 5000 rubles ...... are there people for whom it is expensive?


            A normal laptop for work costs under 50. A smartphone is more or less 30. Well, if they do not crack nuts.
            1. +3
              11 February 2021 13: 55
              Well, smart for 30 is probably too much, but for 5 it's definitely crap.
        3. +2
          11 February 2021 12: 48
          with such prices, you will have to use old gadgets
    3. -25
      10 February 2021 15: 50
      Quote: Svarog
      Rich money in dollars keeps inflation on its side.

      do you know what gold reserves are? do you know what is the essence of gold reserves? do you know where the exchange rate comes from?
      ...........
      you don't know a damn thing ...
      what do you write all the time about what you have no idea about?
      1. +34
        10 February 2021 16: 48
        Quote: NEOZ
        do you know what gold reserves are? do you know what is the essence of gold reserves?

        obviously you count it every night laughing Is he there? laughing
        1. -20
          10 February 2021 16: 52
          Quote: Silvestr
          Obviously, you count him every night. Is he there?

          about! Sylvester!!!!
          I haven't heard you for a long time !!!!!
          decided to throw on a fan?
          maybe constructive dialogue is better?
    4. +1
      10 February 2021 16: 13
      Dollars are also eating up inflation.
      It is easier for those who have capital to increase it further - by leveling inflation.
    5. 0
      11 February 2021 12: 43
      Who then will buy these gadgets if they are still expensive because of the course?
  2. Naz
    +9
    10 February 2021 15: 21
    It's a shame for the state.
    1. +11
      10 February 2021 15: 42
      sooner and later, the spring will burst ...
      1. -24
        10 February 2021 16: 07
        Quote: Aerodrome
        It's a shame for the state.

        but in vain ... Russians live very decently ... I think, even with a bust ...
        1. +34
          10 February 2021 16: 52
          Quote: NEOZ
          but in vain ... Russians live very decently ... I think, even with a bust ...

          you are a Jesuit!
          MOSCOW, September 18, 2020. / TASS /. The number of Russians with incomes below the subsistence level increased in the second quarter of 2020 by 1,3 million compared to the same period in 2019 and amounted to 19,9 million (13,5% of the country's population).
          According to the results of the second quarter of 2020, the cost of living in the Russian Federation per capita on average in the Russian Federation amounted to 12 rubles for the able-bodied population, 392 rubles for pensioners and 9 rubles for children.
          Have you tried to live on this money?
          Or just for you, the head of the Public Chamber's Commission for the Development of Agroindustry, Yulia Ogloblina, believes that due to the rise in prices for basic products, low-income Russians need to be issued ration cards.
          1. -6
            11 February 2021 11: 56
            Quote: Silvestr
            Or just for you, the head of the Public Chamber's Commission for the Development of Agroindustry, Yulia Ogloblina, believes that due to the rise in prices for basic products, low-income Russians need to be issued ration cards.

            great idea!!!!
            in the USA it has been practiced for a long time !!!
            1. +5
              11 February 2021 13: 08
              Schizophrenia on the march. A fucking achievement for a tight economy. So we are not like the spiritless West? What are these measures for? We have our own unique path in capitalism, as the filthy guardians tell us. In our country, everything is blooming, being built, ears are growing, milk yield is growing. Where does all this go if, ultimately, the purchasing power of the population falls and food ration cards are required, the very ones that were in use in the bloody scoop? Thirty years of building a bright capitalist future and such a fiasco as a result.
              1. -4
                11 February 2021 15: 01
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Schizophrenia on the march.

                what exactly?
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                A fucking achievement for a tight economy.

                Ukrainian?
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                So we are not like the spiritless West? What are these measures for?

                this does not mean that the west is not effective. the measures are aimed at supporting the low-income population.
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                In our country, everything is blooming, being built, ears are growing, milk yield is growing.

                well, not everyone ... but they are working on it.
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Where does all this go if, in the end, the purchasing power of the population falls and food ration cards are required, the very ones that were in use in the bloody scoop?

                purchasing power is falling all over the world, in Russia by less than the world average. grocery cards are a tool to support local producers and low-income families, otherwise they would distribute money (one-time / monthly payments), just people buy foreign goods with this money, otherwise they will buy domestic ones (sometimes alcohol families just drank child subsidies)
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Thirty years of building a bright capitalist future and such a fiasco as a result.

                no fiasco !!!! just capitalism implies competition and natural selection ... the weak / stupid get poorer and the strong / smart get richer. further rich to rich, and poor to poor = strong stratification of society ... such is the law of nature!
                1. +3
                  11 February 2021 16: 48
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  Ukrainian?

                  How do I know who you are? But judging by the delirium that you are carrying, if you are not a Ukrainian, then somewhere nearby.

                  Quote: NEOZ
                  this does not mean that the west is ineffective.

                  Who can argue about efficiency. By shifting the public into a private pocket, he will give our kids a hundred points from the capital. That is, in your opinion, it is necessary to strive for this? Somehow then the differences between tight and loose capitalism completely disappear. If they were at all
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  purchasing power is falling all over the world, in Russia by less than the world average.

                  So tell the defender skrep why. By the way, on average, what are the categories?
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  it's just that people use this money to buy foreign goods, and so they will buy domestic

                  So write support for the domestic oligarchy. And we are not talking about alcohol families, but about the poor, it is not necessary to put an equal sign between them, this is rotten demagoguery.
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  no fiasco !!!! just capitalism implies competition and natural selection ... the weak / stupid get poorer and the strong / smart get richer. further rich to rich, and poor to poor = strong stratification of society ... such is the law of nature!

                  Then I hope you understand that periodic pendals from the people of power in the form of revolutions is also a law of nature.
                  1. -3
                    11 February 2021 16: 57
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    Then I hope you understand that periodic pendals from the people of power in the form of revolutions is also a law of nature.

                    Of course!
                    so countries are trying to exploit other countries ...
                    1. +4
                      11 February 2021 17: 15
                      Then why are you bothering me about morality? I don't care about your capitalist morality.
                      1. -3
                        12 February 2021 13: 07
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        I don't care about your capitalist morality.

                        this is a law of nature, not morality!
                        you are complaining about the law of nature! - and this is stupid !!!
                        it's like complaining about winter, which inevitably comes after autumn ... even if you really want summer, winter will come anyway ...
                      2. +2
                        12 February 2021 13: 38
                        How simple it is with you. The law has limits of applicability. Your favorite laws operate within the capitalist economy. So stop talking nonsense.
                      3. -3
                        12 February 2021 13: 48
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Your favorite laws operate within the capitalist economy.

                        laws operate in any economy !!!! even market, even planned!
                        the proof of this were the shopkeepers and black-marketeers in the USSR ... as well as millionaires from the Caucasian republics selling tangerines ...
                        in the USSR everyone wanted to drink Pepsi, smoke Marlboro, wear jeans ...
                        remember the queues at the first McDonald's !!!!!!!
                        jeans cost 100-120 rubles ... and they bought them !!!!!
                        the whole USSR really wanted to rot, as the West decays !!!!
                        remember Petrosyan !!!!!
                      4. +2
                        12 February 2021 14: 07
                        Bullshit. You do not understand nifiga. If tomorrow there is a shortage of bread, you will be ready to kill for it, and if it is in bulk, you will play football for them. So stop writing nonsense.
                      5. -3
                        12 February 2021 14: 21
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        You do not understand nifiga.

                        What education do you have?
                        which university did you graduate from?
                        specialty?
                      6. +3
                        12 February 2021 14: 45
                        The highest. Technical. What is the question? Again, will there be appeals to the person? smile
                      7. -3
                        12 February 2021 14: 47
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        What is the question?

                        I have doubts about your education.
                        What university? what specialty?
                      8. +3
                        12 February 2021 16: 55
                        The university is large, built in the neoclassical style. laughing the specialty is very good and necessary. laughing
        2. +3
          11 February 2021 03: 56
          Quote: NEOZ
          but in vain ... Russians live very decently ... I think, even with a bust ...

          Here is about the search and about the development of science in the Russian Federation:
          1. -6
            11 February 2021 11: 57
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Here is about the search and about the development of science in the Russian Federation:

            teachers in Moscow receive under 100 thousand rubles a month ...
      2. -24
        10 February 2021 16: 10
        Quote: Aerodrome
        sooner and later, the spring will burst ...

        why do you need it?
        I sincerely don’t understand?
        what are you missing in this life?
        are you starving?
        how many people live in the apartment with you and how many rooms?
        do you have a car, make, model?
        1. +35
          10 February 2021 16: 55
          Quote: NEOZ
          are you starving?

          yes you are a "hataskraynik"!

          Did you eat and that's enough?
  3. +22
    10 February 2021 15: 25
    Now regular putinoids will run in and tell that everything in the article is a lie, the people are satisfied and happy, and paid agents of the Anglo-Saxons are rebelling.
    1. +15
      10 February 2021 15: 41
      Probably like that?
    2. -19
      10 February 2021 16: 13
      Quote: aars
      Now regular putinoids will run in and tell that everything in the article is a lie, the people are satisfied and happy, and paid agents of the Anglo-Saxons are rebelling.

      write what you are unhappy with !!!!
      and also tell us a little about yourself:
      is there a high?
      How many rooms are there in the apartment and how many people live in it?
      what is your car (brand, model)?
      how often do you have a rest at sea?
      do you have a summer residence (which one)?
      do you have land (how many acres)?
      1. +13
        10 February 2021 16: 22
        It's not gonna go.
        You were not appointed as the head, you have no right to demand a report.
        But if you are satisfied, tell us, if you yourself wish, how you live on 20 tr. per month.
        This is from Rosstat data, 45% less than 15 thousand, 70 less than 25, took the average.
        If your income is more than 25 thousand, please do not tell, it is not indicative.
        1. -18
          10 February 2021 16: 35
          Quote: aars
          It's not gonna go.
          You were not appointed as the head, you have no right to demand a report.

          apparently, you are all right with prosperity ... but you are concerned about the "people" ...
          Quote: aars
          This is from Rosstat data

          Do you trust Rosstat? - commendable!
          Quote: aars
          45% less than 15 thousand, 70 less than 25, took the average.

          what is it? decipher ... 45% of what? - population?, and 70 is this figure? ...
          ps
          I see the standard of living of the population by new buildings / summer cottages / cars on the roads / the number of Russian tourists at popular resorts .....
          1. +12
            10 February 2021 16: 39
            And I don’t count palaces, cars and dachas, for me statistics are more important.
            almost half of the country's population (45%) lives on less than 15 thousand rubles a month, and 70% have monthly incomes below 25 thousand rubles.
            And my wealth is bad.
            But why are you silent about life for 20 tr. ?!
            1. -27
              10 February 2021 16: 48
              Quote: aars
              statistics are more important to me.

              ok, I'm ready to give you statistics!
              with which country will we compare the standard of living in Russia?
              Quote: aars
              But why are you silent about life for 20 tr. ?!

              I don’t know who has such salaries ... my child’s teacher in kindergarten receives 83000 rubles. two rates of 45000 each ... a teacher at school receives 65-100 thousand rubles ... a police major 100 salary + 100 bonus ... lieutenant 45 thousand ...... what kind of 20 thousand are we talking about ???
              1. +14
                10 February 2021 16: 54
                There is no need to compare with any, foreigners are not interesting, in general, in principle, none, do not care and forget.
                No need about the kindergarten, and about the teacher, too, in principle are not interested in any special cases, I also know a person with a salary of 360 thousand.
                Only mass cases are interesting, then what is the most.
                So fig lieutenants, let's talk about 20 thousand, according to Rosstat.
                Otherwise, I can also tell you about the pleasant life of the chief geologist.
                1. -15
                  10 February 2021 17: 05
                  Quote: aars
                  There is no need to compare with any, foreigners are not interesting, in general, in principle, none, do not care and forget.

                  no no!
                  an objective picture can only be obtained by comparison !!!!
                  ps
                  can you have unattainable needs? and all the time is not enough for you?
                  1. +15
                    10 February 2021 17: 08
                    Don't give a damn about comparisons, what do we care about blacks?
                    Just tell us about 20 thousand and that's it!
                    You don't need anything else, just about 20 thousand.
                    20 thousand, period!
                    And how is it there in sunny Singapore some other time, on occasion ...
                  2. +3
                    11 February 2021 13: 17
                    Can you kick in the ear for demagoguery?
              2. +14
                10 February 2021 17: 15
                The classic cosmopolitan, selfish, inhuman mentality of the enemies of the Communists, who climb to present themselves as "objective facts" in assessing the life of the entire people in the pre-revolutionary, Soviet, post-Soviet periods, is their crown "but I, I, I ..."
              3. +2
                11 February 2021 09: 35
                I read, read your crazy comments and could not react to this very shameless and cynical one, you see you live in another parallel world, take us with you to that Russia, with such salaries and other social benefits.
                1. -7
                  11 February 2021 12: 09
                  Quote: yuliatreb
                  Read, read your crazy comments and couldn't

                  Vasilisa Yulievna, are you he or she? ..... it's not entirely clear who you have to deal with ...
                  Quote: yuliatreb
                  take us with you to that Russia

                  you are already in it ... it's just that the Russian Federation today is not the USSR, in today's Russia no one will help alcoholic beasts and other inadequate people, no one will keep bad workers, and this is a quick slide into marginalization ...
                  1. +6
                    11 February 2021 13: 24
                    The trick is that no one will keep normal workers if it is not profitable. In general, shut up already the apologist of correct capitalism.
                    1. -5
                      11 February 2021 16: 28
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      In general, shut up already the apologist of correct capitalism.

                      Sir, you are badly brought up .... why did your father and mother raise you so badly? can your parents themselves be poorly educated? .... bad parents, as a rule, have bad children .... who, like parents, are not capable of anything ... when the realization of their worthlessness comes, then comes a natural desire to take everything away among the more successful ... human vices are ineradicable ...
                      go to church though and / or buy something for the children in the orphanage!
                      ps
                      my wife (and other friends / acquaintances) and I bought a bunch of mittens / hats / scarves for the new year 2021 at the orphanage, and my wife also organized gifts for the nursing home.
                      PPP
                      what have you done?
                      1. +3
                        11 February 2021 17: 12
                        What the hell are you talking about? How will your mittens help hundreds of thousands of other children? No way. Keep quiet about education. Your mom and dad should cry bloody tears looking at how rotten you have become. Unless they themselves are not like you.
                      2. -3
                        12 February 2021 12: 58
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        How will your mittens help hundreds of thousands of other children?

                        I try to make this world a better place! and it's within my power ...
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Keep quiet about education.

                        yes, I would have kept silent if you hadn't written insults to me ...
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        How will your mittens help hundreds of thousands of other children? No way.

                        we, specifically, helped 25 children from the orphanage ... and it cost more than 30 thousand rubles!
                        and to whom and how did you help?
                      3. +3
                        12 February 2021 13: 32
                        Quote: NEOZ
                        I try to make this world a better place! and it's within my power ...

                        Mittens are good, but they are more to soothe your conscience. And it will not radically change the situation in any way. And you shouldn't try to appeal to the person. This is rotten demagoguery. Which in my case won't work for you.
                        Quote: NEOZ
                        yes, I would have kept silent if you hadn't written insults to me ...

                        Your demagoguery is an insult. You started first. I would not try to hang this cheap noodles on your ears, no one would touch you.
                  2. +2
                    12 February 2021 03: 53
                    Vasilisa Yulievna, are you he or she? ..... it's not entirely clear who you have to deal with ...
                    It is not entirely clear to me that you are deliberately doing this, or a specially trained person so as to bash his forehead for something that is not, and from my answer, if you read it carefully, who I am, no questions should arise.
                    1. -3
                      12 February 2021 12: 53
                      Quote: yuliatreb
                      It is not entirely clear to me that you are deliberately doing this, or a specially trained person so as to bash his forehead for something that is not, and from my answer, if you read it carefully, who I am, no questions should arise.

                      from the answer it follows that you are male, and from the nickname it follows that the female ... in fact, that's all .... it's hard to answer, or what?
              4. +4
                11 February 2021 12: 19
                my child's guardian in kindergarten receives 83000 rubles. two bets of 45000 ... a teacher at school receives 65-100 thousand... rubles ..

                So Putin thinks so .. and, smiling, makes silly eyes ..

                I do not know who has such salaries.

                You don't know much in this life ..




                Teacher of the Year, Karl !! (with)
                1. -5
                  11 February 2021 12: 54
                  Quote: Roman070280
                  So Putin thinks so .. and, smiling, makes silly eyes ..

                  Rum, check with the nearest school ...
                  1. +3
                    11 February 2021 13: 25
                    I can be deceived ..
                    But the fact that "Teacher of the Year" does NOT lie in the eyes of the president - I'm sure !!
                    And you can see from the shifting eyes of the president .. that he also believes ..
                  2. +3
                    11 February 2021 13: 47
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    Rum, check with the nearest school ...

                    Poke your nose for the Moscow region and check with any school.
                    1. -5
                      11 February 2021 14: 34
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Poke your nose for the Moscow region and check with any school.

                      so let them go to the Moscow region !!!! there are not enough teachers !!!!!
                      1. +4
                        11 February 2021 18: 25
                        Quote: NEOZ
                        so let them go to the Moscow region !!!! there are not enough teachers !!!!!

                        Soon the Kyrgyz will teach you the Russian language. Let them go? Are you ready to provide them with all the conveniences, and not a basement with keyboards?
          2. +32
            10 February 2021 16: 57
            Quote: NEOZ
            I see the standard of living of the population by new buildings / summer cottages / cars on the roads / the number of Russian tourists at popular resorts .....

            then for order: the debt load of the population, the availability of housing, food, healthcare ...
            1. -5
              11 February 2021 12: 14
              Quote: Silvestr
              then for order: the debt load of the population, the availability of housing, food, healthcare ...

              so what don't you like?
              credit is a tool to get what you want right now!
              housing - by the end of 2020, 80,6 million sq. m of housing, mortgage 5% (almost like in Europe)
              food - everything is normal, children are fed for free at school ... what are the problems?
              medicine - but what about nitak? how would you like? on what basis?
              1. +2
                11 February 2021 13: 25
                Remind me then why the hell was such a mortgage interest done and what happened to housing prices in the end. Fucking storyteller.
          3. -19
            10 February 2021 17: 32
            Don't even try, it's useless. Income is judged according to statistics, despite the fact that the shadow part of income is on average at the same level as the white.
            45% receive less than 15 thousand? What a wild number? We consider ... the communal apartment is about 4 thousand. Transportation costs (benz) are about the same 4 thousand. The average trip to the store for a week is more than 5 thousand. Plus, small purchases like milk / bread and other things that you can't buy for a week.
            And also the cost of cosmetics, clothing.
            And people go to the sea in summer.
            And cinemas are also packed.
            And cafes are never empty.
            And a bunch of little things.
            Logically, 45% of people are either starving, or wearing rags, or both together, if there is also a mortgage.
            Every second.
            And where are these "every second"? Only a few, yes, there are. But for some reason I don't see emaciated hungry people. And no, I do not live in Moscow. In Rostov-on-Don.
            By the way, the domestic car industry like kopecks, nines and Volga is almost gone on the roads.
            1. +9
              10 February 2021 18: 54
              He lived in a village ...
              There are no cinemas, no cafes, no communal apartments, no one goes to the sea ...
              But they donate milk and 20 thousand is considered an excellent salary.
              1. -5
                11 February 2021 12: 15
                Quote: aars
                He lived in a village ...
                There are no cinemas, no cafes, no communal apartments, no one goes to the sea ...

                why didn't you leave?
                by the way, what kind of village?
            2. -4
              11 February 2021 12: 17
              Quote: Pensive Lawyer
              Don't even try, it's useless.

              and why? on this site only rogue? or people who write about the situation in Russia from a neighboring country?
              1. -3
                11 February 2021 18: 14
                No, I do not think in terms of "rogue".
                On this site, most receive more than the average income, not to mention 15 thousand per month.
                But the topic about 15 thousand and the mythical half of the population living on these 15 thousand is already sooo fashionable. It's cool to feel that you are more successful than half of the population, right? And no one wants to see at close range that this is actually not the case. Impossible just at our price level.
                And in fact what? Those with an official income of 15 are spinning, sabbath. Teachers, for example, take students for additional training. This is from 500 rubles per hour if in the region, to an average of 2 thousand in the city. And there are many who want to go to a good teacher.
                Or, if in rural areas, they are engaged in the same agriculture in parallel. Well, all kinds of animals - birds, pigs, who are richer, have a cow. And, let's be honest, in the village there is a slightly different commodity turnover than in the city, there bread is not at 30 rubles per loaf and meat is not at 400 per kilo.
                Enough for life. Here's the problem with clothes. And so it is very difficult for a villager to move to a city - the difference in the cost of living is wild.
                But our rural population has long been not half.
                Well, if someone works here in the city for 15 thousand - no offense, this is your personal choice. Almost about supply and demand. Everyone is ready to plow for a pittance - here are penny patches, and directors are fattening. We do not have communism, the state will not arrive in a blue helicopter and will force the merchants to pay you 40 thousand if you are ready to plow for 15.
            3. +4
              11 February 2021 13: 28
              To judge the whole country by Moscow and the regional capital is simply gorgeous. Where do you get such stupid people from?
              1. -5
                11 February 2021 18: 38
                There are many friends from small towns in the region, and I don’t notice a significant difference in income between them.
                A counter question - where do you get such stupid people who judge the whole country by isolated cases?
                Let's go to the Chukchi or nomadic local guys in the taiga? Oh-oh-oh, they have no wages at all! How does Mother Russia live? And the same, of course, the sea! Urgent shit rallies! And to print, print from a PC, which costs like the average salary according to Rosstat for 2 months (well, that's different, I'm the chosen one, everyone around me is starving, I'm the only lucky one, and all my friends, too, it happened), about how bad it is.
                Is it bad for someone? Change your place of work, do not work where you are not appreciated.
                Didn't graduate? I'll tell you a secret that the average painter earns no less than the average accountant or lawyer. Or a master tiler. Or a plumber. Study, since a university is not needed here, and go ahead. And there are many such professions.
                And I'm just listing the options for the men.
                The girls also have additional opportunities.
                The tongue is suspended and the face is pretty - forward to the managers, to impose services. Or in advertising, where they don't always ask for diplomas.
                Market, comrades, market! Nobody cares about you, but there is freedom of speech, thanks to which you can pour mud on everyone and everything in the comments, within reasonable limits. Or read how the citizens of Israel, for example, Israel, are pouring over you on this website, telling how cool they are and what kind of garbage we have.
                Or read the pearls of the Sumerians.
                And for this super freedom they gave social guarantees, fair wages and a bunch of other things.
                Hope everyone is happy. Freedom is priceless, right?
                1. -3
                  11 February 2021 19: 01
                  Everyone is unhappy with everything. But no one, I repeat, no one does anything to protect their rights. Protecting your rights is your own business.
                  Don't like the pension reform? Coordinate the meeting with the appropriate agenda. Not in support of another head yelling about corruption. And with a specific idea. Yes, the administration crossed itself, that for once not screaming idiots go out into the street, but normal citizens who normally exercise their rights, without riots and violations of the law. And demand not the resignation of everything and everyone, but the adoption of the decision you need. Try it, the result will surprise you. The authorities do not like when they are asked to withdraw themselves, but very adequately perceives when they are asked for something specific.
                  It's the same with the minimum wage. Get organized. Finally declare a strike, you have such a right. Social networks to help, if the topic is topical, you will not be alone.
                  But still they are quietly boiling at home and in social networks. All dissatisfaction is expressed, funny to say, in dislikes and minuses.
                  Who will take you seriously?
                2. +4
                  11 February 2021 23: 52
                  Does your circle of acquaintances consist entirely of painters and tilers? Perhaps I will not believe nifiga. I don’t need to tell me about the market, what kind of shit I understood long ago. And freedom of speech is bullshit. If tomorrow your words threaten the ruling class, it will find a way to silence you.
                  1. -3
                    12 February 2021 13: 17
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    Perhaps I will not believe nifiga. I don’t need to tell me about the market, what kind of shit I understood long ago. And freedom of speech is bullshit.

                    intolerance of other opinions shows meager mind ...
                    1. +3
                      12 February 2021 13: 40
                      And what shows tolerance for stupid opinions?
                      1. -3
                        12 February 2021 13: 53
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        And what shows tolerance for stupid opinions?

                        peevishness .... it's so simple !!!! .... you even have difficulty with antonyms .....
                      2. +3
                        12 February 2021 14: 10
                        It's not my difficulty with antonyms, but your difficulty with logic. As, incidentally, with any apologist for capitalism. Maybe it's enough for you to punch the bottom?
          4. +5
            11 February 2021 08: 54
            Quote: NEOZ
            write what you are unhappy with !!!!
            and also tell us a little about yourself:
            is there a high?
            How many rooms are there in the apartment and how many people live in it?
            what is your car (brand, model)?
            how often do you have a rest at sea?
            do you have a summer residence (which one)?
            do you have land (how many acres)?

            Are you yourself ready for a constructive dialogue? Are you ready to answer the questions yourself?
            I have (especially) nothing to hide. Higher education; twice retired; we live together with my wife in a two-room apartment (apartment from the USSR Ministry of Defense - RF) at / p; the last time he rested at sea was in 1977; no summer residence; no car (bike "GT Avalanche" 3.0, 2011 purchase); no land owned; total income: 31 646,47 +15 158, 34 = 46 804, 81 ...
            You ask questions about dissatisfaction. With the same right, you can ask a question to you about your "contentment".
            Quote: NEOZ
            apparently, you are all right with prosperity ... but you are concerned about the "people" ...

            Do you think that a citizen of Russia (the middle class according to Putin) has the right to be content with his life? For example, am I strained by the method of calculating pensions to citizens (without privileges) in comparison with those appointed to power?
            It is very interesting why the construction of private real estate objects in the environmental and water protection zone is legalized?
            I wonder if the disgusting architecture and the speed of construction of social facilities (schools, kindergartens, hospitals, clinics, sanatoriums, homes for lonely elderly citizens) are connected with the withdrawal of funds into private pockets?
            The most important thing. Why is there a scanty share in the income from production of a person of creative labor in comparison with “different kinds”? In connection with what state necessity one category of citizens is prescribed to enjoy life for 12 792 rubles, and their "servants" and "servants of servants" have to interrupt from several hundred thousand to several million.
            Announce the principle of social justice, recognized as impeccable in Russia.
            1. -3
              11 February 2021 12: 38
              Quote: ROSS 42
              Are you yourself ready for a constructive dialogue?

              of course!
              Quote: ROSS 42
              Are you ready to answer the questions yourself?

              Ready!
              Quote: ROSS 42
              total income: 31 +646,47 = 15

              not very bad for retirees !!! and you are not enough?
              why don't you have children? they would help you !!!
              Quote: ROSS 42
              With the same right, you can ask a question to you about your "contentment".

              I:
              60000 + 20000 = 80000 for five (three children)
              auto (vesta) / 3-room apartment / cottage with a house (parent) / once a year by the sea (ours).

              Quote: ROSS 42
              Do you think that a citizen of Russia (the middle class according to Putin) has the right to be content with his life?

              yes, I think so! because the citizens of the country that collapsed 30 years ago (the Russian Federation is 40% of the USSR) lost the Cold War, today they do not live very badly, moreover, I think that with a change of power we will only live worse !!!
              Quote: ROSS 42
              For example, am I strained by the methodology for calculating pensions to citizens (without privileges) in comparison with those appointed to power?

              in vain, the authorities are trying to prevent the situation with Gorbachev (they sold the country and half the world for a million ...), the authorities are trying to give the powers that be as much as the West cannot offer (people remain people with their vices and weaknesses)
              Quote: ROSS 42
              It is very interesting why the construction of private real estate objects in the environmental and water protection zone is legalized?

              because these lands are removed from the protected area ... everything is according to the law ...
              Quote: ROSS 42
              I wonder if the disgusting architecture and the speed of construction of social facilities (schools, kindergartens, hospitals, clinics, sanatoriums, homes for lonely elderly citizens) are connected with the withdrawal of funds into private pockets?

              Western construction model ... and of course it's profitable ...
              Quote: ROSS 42
              In connection with the state necessity of one category of citizens it is prescribed to enjoy life for 12 792 rubles, and their "servants" and "servants of servants" have to interrupt from several hundred thousand to several million.

              I described to you above ...
              Quote: ROSS 42
              Why is there a scanty share in the income from production of a person of creative labor in comparison with “different kinds”?

              it's not entirely clear what you mean ....
              1. +3
                11 February 2021 13: 33
                Gorgeous of course. A house with a dacha from mom and dad is a decent salary, and there are certainly bonuses. Don't live like that. Try with a mortgage and three children and a salary of 30 ku.
                1. -3
                  11 February 2021 14: 46
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Try with a mortgage and three children and a salary of 30 ku.

                  I think I deserve my salary (not great, by the way).
                  school - honors, university - no triples.
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  House with a dacha from mom and dad

                  without them it would be more difficult, of course ... thank them very much for that. I hope that I will also leave something for my children to make life easier.
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  there are probably still awards.

                  there are no bonuses ..... the wife will be released from the decree that will be 60 + 50 = 110!
                  1. +4
                    11 February 2021 15: 02
                    Enough demagoguery. It's not about what you deserve there or not, but about the people in general and sad tendencies. But in reality, we have victorious reports and all sorts of propaganda has been done in our country, and the falling incomes of the population against the background of the growing stratification, the shitty situation at the borders and the growing irritation of people with empty rhetoric of power.
                    1. -4
                      11 February 2021 15: 09
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      falling incomes of the population against the backdrop of growing stratification, the shitty situation at the borders and the growing irritation of people with empty rhetoric of the authorities.

                      I answered this earlier ...
                      1. +2
                        11 February 2021 16: 13
                        How did everyone get drunk with stories? And about the fact that with bloody komunyaki people did not have iPhones?
                      2. -3
                        11 February 2021 16: 15
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        How did everyone get drunk with stories? And about the fact that with bloody komunyaki people did not have iPhones?

                        look in the book see a fig?
                      3. +3
                        11 February 2021 16: 57
                        Are you talking about your vision of reality?
                      4. -3
                        11 February 2021 17: 04
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Are you talking about your vision of reality?

                        all right ....
                      5. +2
                        11 February 2021 23: 39
                        Self-critical. I’m still waiting for you guards to start changing shoes en masse. In 2020, there has been a positive trend in this regard. But it is still rather weak. laughing
                      6. -3
                        12 February 2021 12: 58
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        ... I'm waiting for everything

                        well wait, wait ...
                    2. -3
                      11 February 2021 19: 33
                      The people cannot be judged as a whole.
                      You cannot compare a nuclear physicist and a janitor. You can't compare a waiter and a top manager.
                      The stratification of the population occurs first according to professions, and only then according to income as a consequence of engaging in a particular professional activity.
                      And all the problems are that those who are unable to defend their rights have the minimum wages. Those who are just waiting for the manna from heaven. Those who have been paid 10 thousand for 15 years, and they do not stutter about a raise.
                      And those who are fighting for their happiness and a place in the sun, sooner or later go up.
                      This is the labor market. On it, as in an oriental bazaar, you need to bargain. Or rip off.
                  2. +2
                    11 February 2021 18: 32
                    I have a neighbor too:
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    school - honors, university - no triples.
                    He also taught at the university. He died 2 years ago, receiving a disability pension of less than 5 thousand.
                2. -3
                  11 February 2021 19: 11
                  And the head on the shoulders of such a person has three children to do, when you can't make ends meet?
                  And about children, such a person thinks - doom them in advance to not a very joyful childhood?
                  Of course, it's gorgeous when you think with your head and it's nasty when you don't think with it.
      2. +7
        10 February 2021 17: 07
        Quote: NEOZ
        Quote: aars
        Now regular putinoids will run in and tell that everything in the article is a lie, the people are satisfied and happy, and paid agents of the Anglo-Saxons are rebelling.

        write what you are unhappy with !!!!
        and also tell us a little about yourself:
        is there a high?
        How many rooms are there in the apartment and how many people live in it?
        what is your car (brand, model)?
        how often do you have a rest at sea?
        do you have a summer residence (which one)?
        do you have land (how many acres)?


        Write an autobiography? Relatives like this now breathed. As I remember our secrets ...
      3. AUL
        +6
        10 February 2021 20: 52
        Quote: NEOZ
        is there a high?
        How many rooms are there in the apartment and how many people live in it?
        what is your car (brand, model)?
        how often do you have a rest at sea?
        do you have a summer residence (which one)?
        do you have land (how many acres)?

        ... the size of your shoes and panties?
        your mother's maiden name?
        the size of your lover's bust?
        1. -2
          11 February 2021 12: 39
          Quote from AUL
          ... the size of your shoes and panties?
          your mother's maiden name?
          the size of your lover's bust?

          1.42/52
          2. I do not remember
          3.absent (mistress)
  4. +11
    10 February 2021 15: 27

    At a distance from 1 year onwards, Russia is a very convenient country for forecasting: both because of the simplicity of the structure of the Settlement, and because of the historical track. It is more difficult to make a forecast for a week-month))
    It is clear what will happen next in the country. I write a lot about this, but it is not a sin to repeat it. The end of the long reign began. As with any such stage, further tightening of the nuts awaits us. At least a couple of years will have to live in this (as they said at the end of the reign of Nicholas I, "The intelligentsia is hiding and trembling"). Then there will be a Thaw-Perestroika - a reboot of the Uklad due to an energy transition. The current team of KGB managers came under another project, its competencies will not be enough for the energy transition (but the team has fulfilled its historic task by 80 percent - it remains only to introduce and test the mechanisms of legalizing all property and transferring it to heirs). There will be new managers. "Just business, nothing else."
    As for Navalny, as long as Putin is physiologically alive, he will not be allowed to move. The remnants of his structures will be completely crushed, the liberal agenda will be pumped into systemic organizations (the fact that Yavlinsky has already woken up is significant).
    1. +10
      10 February 2021 17: 20
      Why so much verbiage, they also dragged the Chekists. The enemies of the communists, not just to justify the capture of the USSR, create myths "how everything was wonderful before the communists", they proved that it was for the sake of the System, as in the Republic of Ingushetia - with a huge gap in income between the people - and the rich and richest parasites, that they captured THE USSR .
      1. -3
        11 February 2021 12: 44
        Quote: tatra
        The enemies of the communists create myths not just to justify their capture of the USSR

        how many millions more bourgeoisie need to be killed for all-Russian happiness?
        Quote: tatra
        create myths "how everything was wonderful BEFORE the communists"

        Yes, yes, under Yanukovych they lived better than now it is also a myth !!!! or not?
      2. -3
        11 February 2021 12: 46
        Quote: tatra
        as in RI -with a huge gap in income between the people, -and the rich and richest parasites, they captured the USSR.

        as? for 70 years, not all the counter was cut out? and even climbed into the upper echelons of power? .....
        maybe human nature cannot be killed?
  5. +7
    10 February 2021 15: 29
    The author only forgot one thing, when, according to her mother and grandmother, prices were reduced, we had a period of building socialism, and now capitalism with its animal murl. Hello Chubais.
    1. +11
      10 February 2021 15: 41
      Oh, is it only Chubais to send greetings? Who is responsible for the irremovability of the country's economic and political course? Who guarantees everything?
      1. -5
        10 February 2021 15: 48
        You can Gaidar, Koch, Nemtsova, in short, everyone you reach for
        1. +9
          10 February 2021 15: 55
          And those who are now in power and support the further course of capitalism with an animal grin, what about them, they have nothing to do with it? The fish rots from the head.
          1. -8
            10 February 2021 18: 46
            And they are happy with everything, why should they change something. I remember in the 90s huge crowds voted for capitalism, and we have it, or rather, it has us.
            And about the irremovability of the course. This is not for you to turn the steering wheel in the car. We still have not finished what we started in the 90s and it is unknown when we will finish. And if we now start turning 180 again, then there will be a lot of rumble, but there will be no country, it will fall apart. Moreover, this is expected of us in the west, and even its fifth column is doing its best. As soon as we stagger, they will rush at us from all sides like wolves, there are few examples for you.
            1. +2
              10 February 2021 23: 05
              You are right to vote, but for European capitalism, or at least for American, but not for African.
              1. -4
                11 February 2021 08: 36
                Starved me with their simplicity. Can't you see what they are worth? Anyway, think what you want.
      2. +34
        10 February 2021 16: 57
        Quote: ALARI
        Who is responsible for the irremovability of the country's economic and political course? Who guarantees everything?

  6. +2
    10 February 2021 15: 37
    In turn, perestroika and reformers convinced the entire Soviet people that prices, which by the beginning of the 90s had gone to pieces, would be put in order either by competition.
    .. the competition in Russia is in full swing and everything is over the head ..
  7. +10
    10 February 2021 15: 38
    If the ruble is dropped a couple more times, we will become millionaires again. And so a weak ruble is a blessing for the population))) Not the last person in the country said this.
    1. -19
      10 February 2021 16: 17
      Quote: ALARI
      And so a weak ruble is a blessing for the population))) Not the last person in the country said this.

      it is ... hard in training - easy in battle! ... this is our payment for our own production ...
      1. +6
        10 February 2021 16: 34
        If this goes on, we will not have this production. In what textbook on economics it is written that the higher the inflation, the production flourishes. Whoever will buy your manufactured product, inflation will eat up finances and will remain only for food. And if you drive everything over the hill, then why produce?
        1. -17
          10 February 2021 16: 43
          Quote: ALARI
          And if you drive everything over the hill, then why produce?

          ask the PRC.
          Quote: ALARI
          In what textbook on economics it is written that the higher the inflation, the production flourishes.

          economics mcconnell chapter supply / demand (theory)
          .....
          ps
          When the PRC lowered the yuan rate, the United States protested and forced to raise the rate ... why did the PRC do it?
          remember the default of 1999, short-term impoverishment, and then rapid growth !!!
          1. +9
            10 February 2021 16: 54
            It is not correct to compare with the PRC, they rather strictly regulate prices and wages, the value of the currency. And here everything is growing despite any achievements in agriculture or industry.
          2. +10
            10 February 2021 17: 08
            Quote: NEOZ
            short-term impoverishment, and then rapid growth !!!


            You made my day!
            1. -3
              11 February 2021 12: 50
              Quote: sergo1914
              You made my day!

              please contact !!!!
              Peter 1 also robbed the people to defeat Sweden ... so that it would be better later!
              the communists destroyed and ruined the Republic of Ingushetia so that later it would be better!
              From 1941-1945 the USSR also exploited the people so that later it would be better ...
              1. Aag
                +1
                11 February 2021 18: 41
                Quote: NEOZ
                Quote: sergo1914
                You made my day!

                please contact !!!!
                Peter 1 also robbed the people to defeat Sweden ... so that it would be better later!
                the communists destroyed and ruined the Republic of Ingushetia so that later it would be better!
                From 1941-1945 the USSR also exploited the people so that later it would be better ...

                Well ... Please, continue your row.
                The current ones, why did they rob the people, ruin and ruin what the communists created, profofonize what was conquered in 1941-1945?
                ... So that it would be better for WHOM later? What they themselves, and right now, is
                Well, and then? Western, eastern, southern neighbors? There will be no people left with this approach.
                1. -3
                  12 February 2021 13: 04
                  Quote: AAG
                  The current ones, why did they rob the people, ruin and ruin what the communists created, profofonize what was conquered in 1941-1945?

                  so the people of the USSR really wanted to live like they live in the west !!!! now he lives !!!! but not all ...
                  Quote: AAG
                  Well, then? Western, eastern, southern neighbors? With this approach, there will be no people of their own.

                  What do you want from the people who charged water from the TV and invested in JSC MMM?
                  1. Aag
                    +3
                    12 February 2021 14: 51
                    "... so the people of the USSR really wanted to live like they live in the west !!!! now they live !!!! but not all .."
                    So not all the people wanted to ... Remember the results of the referendum on the preservation of the USSR. It has now become popular in the media - if you don’t want it like we do, it will be like in France (to disperse the protesters), like in Germany (with migrants, -y We, in some places, have a similar story, only migrants not from the former colonies, but from the former Soviet Union, who have risen rather robustly, as in Ukraine (by all indicators).
                    The country did not fall apart at the request of the people.
                    "... what do you want from the people who charged water from the TV set and invested in ao MMM? ..."
                    On this point I won't argue too much. But .... Agree, in the current reality, even with a reduced population, the number of such citizens has increased (well, it's scary to turn on 10,20 TV channels, is this a market? Government policy ?!).
                    Probably, it was necessary to start with this: sorry if I did not understand you correctly, but it seems that you are abstracting from the people ... No, I appreciate your persistence (there are so many minuses in the thread, sometimes with offensive comments ... By the way, thanks for the answer!
                    ... But it really seems like .... You are interested in denying the obvious.)
                    Sorry, I was distracted ... Since you answered the questions about the size of shoes, etc. How do you imagine the future, your own, your children? Nothing worries?
                    1. -3
                      12 February 2021 14: 59
                      Quote: AAG
                      Not all the people wanted to do that ... Remember the results of the referendum on the preservation of the USSR.

                      unrelated things!
                      the desire to preserve the country within the borders of the USSR is not associated with the desire to rot as in the west.
                      ps
                      I don’t remember the mass demonstrations about the market economy and the collapse of the USSR.
                      PPP
                      here the "red" took up arms for their ideas, like the "white"! and not limply watching the country fall apart ...
                      I think that we ourselves are to blame for everything "inside and out."
  8. -1
    10 February 2021 15: 43
    Here's how - no one expected

    Ha, ha, what is left for us, because swearing, growling, is useless ... the growl of a detached one, like the squeak of a mosquito, does not bother anyone at the top! And to get together and give out a serious, loud roar, we can't ...
  9. AB
    +3
    10 February 2021 15: 55
    The author in the article could not offer anything new from the word at all. Then why is this article? Analytics? Not. A statement of fact about the liberals headed by Chubais and Gaidar. Yes, we ourselves know very well. The fact that official data and real money in our wallets differ at times is not a secret for anyone. The author just cried, so what? Nothing. There are many small letters, but little sense. Dummy, there is nothing to discuss.
  10. +13
    10 February 2021 16: 08
    ALARI (Artem), dear, what are you, what are you!
    Just opened the news: "More about the event
    Putin instructed the Cabinet of Ministers and regional authorities to study the situation with the salaries of state employees
    TASS
    15:01
    Putin instructed to eliminate problems with salaries of state employees
    Rossiyskaya Gazeta
    14:51
    Putin urged to clean up flaws with public sector salaries
    Lenta.ru
    15:06 "
    In 2012, the May decrees were born, in 2018 they reported on their implementation ... Who signed the reports? Who accepted them? Who checked the signed reports?
    So Leonid Filatov remembered:
    "In the morning I smear a sandwich -
    Immediately thought: what about the people?
    And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
    And compote does not pour into your mouth!
    I will stand at the window at night.
    And stand all night without sleep
    All worried about Rasee,
    How is she, poor woman? "
    1. +12
      10 February 2021 16: 25
      Exactly. Many are still led by a fairy tale about a good king and evil courtiers, and in fact adults. He instructed him to instruct and forgot, you won't punish your own people, they won't understand if you tear them off the trough.
  11. +12
    10 February 2021 16: 47
    People, as they used to receive about 20 tr. 10 years ago, they get it, but with prices, something is wrong ... they have increased by 2-3 times in my opinion. Although with their calculations, the difference in height should be less, it seems like
  12. +1
    10 February 2021 17: 15
    The author was inaccurate, he wrote:
    "anti-crisis managers from among the hardened liberals",
    but it was necessary to write:
    "anti-crisis managers from among the projected liberals".
  13. +3
    10 February 2021 17: 55
    They are already full of food. Watch TV!
  14. +13
    10 February 2021 22: 15
    Quote: NEOZ
    Quote: Aerodrome
    sooner and later, the spring will burst ...

    why do you need it?
    I sincerely don’t understand?
    what are you missing in this life?
    are you starving?
    how many people live in the apartment with you and how many rooms?
    do you have a car, make, model?

    First, answer these questions yourself, and we'll see .... lol
  15. +2
    11 February 2021 02: 26
    Five points. Especially with regard to the technology of accounts in the Ministry of Finance. To rip out the trachea of ​​cattle
  16. +1
    11 February 2021 09: 56
    "The problem for Russia is not that the poor have nothing to eat, but that the rich WILL NOT FEEL IN ANYTHING !!!" (with)
  17. +2
    11 February 2021 12: 08
    MOSCOW, February 10 - RIA Novosti. Since the beginning of 2021, prices for electronics in Russia have increased by five to twenty percent, depending on the category, Nikolai Petrov, head of the digital equipment procurement department at Citylink, told Izvestia.
    According to Petrov, the rise in prices began last year.
    The main reason for this, as explained in the company "Marvel-Distribution", was the shortage of basic components for electronics, video cards, screens, memory - about 80 percent of these components are produced in China. In the first wave of coronavirus, production was reduced, and its volumes cannot yet be increased.
    The company hopes that the situation will stabilize by April, but much will depend on the restrictions imposed and the possible easing of sanctions against China by the United States.
    According to the leading analyst of Mobile Research Group Eldar Murtazin, the import of electronics to Russia fell due to the deficit in the fourth quarter of last year. Now in China, production has been suspended due to the New Year holidays, so deliveries to Russia will be in March-May. Depending on the segment, electronics can rise in price by ten to 40 percent within a year, but most of all laptops - from 40 to 50 percent.
  18. +2
    11 February 2021 13: 33
    Quote: Destiny
    Here is the trouble, so the trouble. There are no gadgets, food will rise in price with medicines, this is scary. The poor are scared, the rich are right here they wrote

    Gadgets will rise in price due to the fall of the ruble. And because of the fall of the ruble, medicines and food will rise in price. Moreover, the electronics that have risen in price is used not only in gadgets, but also in the manufacture of medicines and food and all other consumer goods.
  19. Aag
    +2
    11 February 2021 15: 01
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    Who then will buy these gadgets if they are still expensive because of the course?

    Yesterday, the increase in prices for electronics was explained by the Chinese New Year holidays ...
  20. 0
    17 February 2021 11: 03
    As there were talkers, so they remained. There is no normal and honest work from them.