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The Northern Fleet carried out the first rotation of the MiG-31BM interceptors on the Novaya Zemlya archipelago

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The Northern Fleet carried out the first rotation of the MiG-31BM interceptors on the Novaya Zemlya archipelago

The Northern Fleet has rotated long-range interceptors MiG-31BM, which are on alert in the Arctic. This was reported by the press service fleet.


According to the report, the first rotation of the MiG-31BM crews took place under the leadership of the commander of the Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Northern Fleet, Lieutenant General Alexander Otroshchenko, who personally piloted the MiG-31BM interceptor from the airfield on the Kola Peninsula to the Rogachevo airfield on the Novaya Zemlya archipelago.

The first change of flight personnel and MiG-31BM fighters of a separate mixed air regiment took place at the Rogachevo airfield of the Northern Fleet on the Yuzhny island of the Novaya Zemlya archipelago. A month ago, they took up an experimental combat duty to protect the state border of the Russian Federation in the airspace of the Arctic.

- Reported the press service.

It is specified that the pilots are on alert for one month.

Recall that in mid-January, on the Novaya Zemlya archipelago, a solemn ritual of intercession on experimental combat duty of the MiG-31BM pilots to protect the state border in the Arctic took place. The pilots are on duty together with the anti-aircraft gunners. There is an anti-aircraft missile regiment of the 45th Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Northern Fleet, armed with S-400 air defense systems.

It is noted that no violations of the border were noticed during the month of the experimental combat duty.
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  1. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 8 February 2021 07: 43
    -3
    More air defense and military forces and military forces are needed to cover the north (where missiles with nuclear warheads are supposed to fly from US territory, as well as their bombers along the shortest route).
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 8 February 2021 08: 15
      -6
      so rockets in space will fly, they are ballistic, only against bombers it makes sense ..
      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 8 February 2021 08: 43
        +3
        So "in theory and insider information" the MIG-31 was sharpened for anti-satellite weapons for the future, and on the way are the S-500 air defense systems, which, it seems, are capable of shooting down objects in near space.
        1. yehat2
          yehat2 8 February 2021 17: 09
          0
          Quote: mojohed2012
          seem to be able to shoot down objects in the close

          Recently, several articles have appeared that raise a big question about the possibility of such an interception, so it is difficult to assert such a possibility without practical testing.
          In the United States, 3 out of about 15 such tests ended in real interception - 1 from an aircraft and 2 from a ship. but more than 10 missiles missed. The probability of hitting even a stationary satellite in low orbit, the easiest possible target, is less than 20%. In the atmospheric ballistic trajectory, especially in its second part, the Americans have huge problems not only to get into, but even to simply determine the position of the target - recently tests of North Korean missiles have shown this. And what about the efficiency c 500?
          Perhaps there is a theoretical one, but what about a real possibility?
    2. yehat2
      yehat2 8 February 2021 17: 02
      +1
      from the north now the main threat is cruise missiles, more precisely, whole clouds of cruise missiles and reconnaissance aircraft. The MiG-31 can intercept and patrol them, but there is one but.
      One Arlie Burke is capable of launching about 25-40 of these missiles. And even the MiG-31 flight will not have enough ammunition to shoot down everything, and after all, not everyone will be hit. Those. question about the efficiency of these machines.
      In addition, it is an active defense system that requires a lot of funds.
      And the patrol mig-31 should be gradually replaced with cheaper and more effective means - stationary radars, AWACS aircraft, missile bases, etc.
      1. FRoman1984
        FRoman1984 9 February 2021 05: 24
        0
        Quote: yehat2
        from the north now the main threat is cruise missiles, more precisely, whole clouds of cruise missiles and reconnaissance aircraft. The MiG-31 can intercept and patrol them, but there is one but.
        One Arlie Burke is capable of launching about 25-40 of these missiles. And even the MiG-31 flight will not have enough ammunition to shoot down everything, and after all, not everyone will be hit. Those. question about the efficiency of these machines.
        In addition, it is an active defense system that requires a lot of funds.
        And the patrol mig-31 should be gradually replaced with cheaper and more effective means - stationary radars, AWACS aircraft, missile bases, etc.

        In order for cruise missiles and scouts to appear in this region, targets for them must appear there. Besides the infrastructure of Gazprom and Novatek, there is no nifig there. What is there to defend in this hole? I worked there in the late 2000s, early 2010s, people in those years pre-sanctioned fled from there, now it's full of stars ... dec.
        Again the war of the General Staff with windmills ...
        1. nznz
          nznz 9 February 2021 07: 18
          0
          how long did you work there? Where does this nonsense come from. The significance of the landfill has decreased, of course, after 90. The moratorium prohibits testing. There was a period of desolation, so it was all over the country, I was in the 90s, I left there and all these years I got used to it. 7 years of experience, the period covered a decent amount (80-83 and 86-90). In recent years, they combed their hair. They built a shopping center instead of 5 stores, the houses were repaired (let me remind you that at 90 after the accident, the houses were defrosted on the water pipe).
          News for me that there are facilities of Gazprom and Novoiek there? which ones on NZ specifically? It never happened. They plan to organize coal mining ... but that's the plan.
          as for the protection of the sky, in Pogachevo there were always PYO. At one time they were commanded by General Malikov Anatoly. He is alive, but in old age. I can betray greetings from colleagues, through friends. Except neba, there are two seas, and besides RS-planes of reconnaissance planes flying regularly in my time, submarines roam. And even the buoys are thrown off. It was possible to disassemble this, they brought us to gut it. and boats can carry weapons too. But boats and planes were always under control, intercepted, photographed our aircraft and even shook our fists. for the duration of the CP passage, radio silence was declared.
          1. FRoman1984
            FRoman1984 10 February 2021 04: 44
            -1
            Quote: nznz
            how long did you work there? Where does this nonsense come from. The significance of the landfill has decreased, of course, after 90. The moratorium prohibits testing. There was a period of desolation, so it was all over the country, I was in the 90s, I left there and all these years I got used to it. 7 years of experience, the period covered a decent amount (80-83 and 86-90). In recent years, they combed their hair. They built a shopping center instead of 5 stores, the houses were repaired (let me remind you that at 90 after the accident, the houses were defrosted on the water pipe).
            News for me that there are facilities of Gazprom and Novoiek there? which ones on NZ specifically? It never happened. They plan to organize coal mining ... but that's the plan.
            as for the protection of the sky, in Pogachevo there were always PYO. At one time they were commanded by General Malikov Anatoly. He is alive, but in old age. I can betray greetings from colleagues, through friends. Except neba, there are two seas, and besides RS-planes of reconnaissance planes flying regularly in my time, submarines roam. And even the buoys are thrown off. It was possible to disassemble this, they brought us to gut it. and boats can carry weapons too. But boats and planes were always under control, intercepted, photographed our aircraft and even shook our fists. for the duration of the CP passage, radio silence was declared.

            What does the landfill have to do with it? I'm talking about objects in Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug and NAO - fields, terminals, gas liquefaction plants, infrastructure, pipes, etc.
            This place is interesting from the point of view of SSBN duty - an ideal territory.
    3. FRoman1984
      FRoman1984 9 February 2021 05: 21
      -1
      Quote: mojohed2012
      More air defense and military forces and military forces are needed to cover the north (where missiles with nuclear warheads are supposed to fly from US territory, as well as their bombers along the shortest route).

      What is there to cover? And what can a MiG-31 and air defense missile unit do in the context of intercepting warheads? And what did the US long-range aviation forget there?
      But what needs to be developed - so that is not even in the plans - the detection and counteraction of nuclear submarines.
      1. nznz
        nznz 9 February 2021 07: 21
        0
        who told you that someone would waste a rocket on an empty landfill?
  2. Bez 310
    Bez 310 8 February 2021 08: 05
    .
    Why did the general "personally pilot the MiG-31BM interceptor"
    on the flight? Advertising action, that is, show-off?
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 8 February 2021 08: 22
      +18
      Alexander Otroshchenko - Honored Pilot of Russia, has the highest flying qualification "Sniper Pilot". His flight time on fighter aircraft is more than 2 thousand hours.
      It is good that he is truly a Combat General and Pilot of the highest qualification!
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 8 February 2021 08: 35
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        Quote: Hunter 2
        Combat General and Pilot of the highest qualification!

        The Commander is not required to fly, he
        needs to be organized and managed.
        During the fighting, "Combat General and
        The highest qualification pilot "must sit
        in the bunker, and manage the fighting.
        What good is it that the general took away
        private pilot raid and training in approach
        to land at a new airfield?
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 8 February 2021 08: 58
          +8
          The pilot will have time to fly, while the commander will have much less time to fly.
          1. Bez 310
            Bez 310 8 February 2021 08: 59
            .
            Quote: 1976AG
            the commander has much less flight time.

            The commander does not need to fly.
            1. krot
              krot 8 February 2021 13: 33
              +1
              Why did the general "personally pilot the MiG-31BM interceptor"
              on the flight? Advertising action, that is, show-off?

              Ponty is your dumbest comment! Pilots, they are pilots in Africa, and they cannot live without flights! Everyone I know, at least so.
              1. yehat2
                yehat2 9 February 2021 12: 51
                0
                Everyone I know, at least so

                the overwhelming majority of pilots can only fly in the army
                and in the army there is a charter and orders and no one gives a shit about who can or cannot.
                And in an amicable way, the leadership should have questions - what for the general climbed into the plane. If for their own wishes it is actually an official misconduct.
      2. The Little Humpbacked Horse
        The Little Humpbacked Horse 8 February 2021 09: 32
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        Quote: Hunter 2
        Alexander Otroshchenko - Honored Pilot of Russia, has the highest flying qualification "Sniper Pilot". His flight time on fighter aircraft is more than 2 thousand hours.


        Alexander Ivanovich Otroshchenko (born March 21, 1962)

        But really why did he get on a plane at 58, unless they fly at that age, and if he felt bad in flight, then he would just ditch the plane
        1. Sergey Averchenkov
          Sergey Averchenkov 8 February 2021 22: 44
          +1
          I don’t know, I’m 57 - my back hurts, my left foot is constantly cramping ... but I have worked on drilling rigs for more than 25 years. In general, not everything is so sweet at this age ... but where to go? Need to work. And now there's cancer. His mother is there ... Let him fly if his health allows. At least for his memory - after all, the pilot.
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 8 February 2021 08: 23
      +19
      Quote: Bez 310
      Why did the general "personally pilot

      I personally looked at the route of the flight, the approach to the airfield, features, and so on. It commands respect.
      Is this a show-off.
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 8 February 2021 08: 32
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        Quote: bober1982
        I personally looked at the route of the flight, the approach to the airfield, features, and so on.

        What for?
        Why is this respectful?
        Usually, weather scouting along the route,
        features of the call and so on, performs
        squad leader.
        Are there problems with the squad leaders in the regiment?
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 8 February 2021 08: 41
          +9
          Quote: Bez 310
          What for?

          It is strange that you ask such a question.
          To personally imagine what it is like to enter this airfield.
          1. Bez 310
            Bez 310 8 February 2021 08: 44
            .
            Quote: bober1982
            To personally imagine what it is like to enter this airfield.

            There is nothing strange in my question.
            The commander has nothing to do
            to training pilots, there are commanders for this
            detachments, castles and squadrons.
            Try to come up with some kind of normal
            the reason for personal piloting, except for show-off,
            plaque, and just "pokatushek".
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 8 February 2021 08: 59
              +13
              Quote: Bez 310
              except show-off

              The airfield in the Arctic is not at all the place to show off.
              You persist in vain, the conversation becomes meaningless.
              1. Bez 310
                Bez 310 8 February 2021 09: 04
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                Quote: bober1982
                the conversation becomes meaningless.

                Конечно.
                Explain the need for a personal flight
                general is impossible, but on "emotions" we
                we will not reach the meaning.
                I remember once the generals from office
                "commander of the formation" in general
                forbidden to fly, and nothing happened,
                flight work in parts did not die out.
                1. bober1982
                  bober1982 8 February 2021 09: 11
                  +6
                  Quote: Bez 310
                  I remember somehow

                  It's good to remember.
                  The commanders of the formations, I remember, were forbidden to fly, then I remember they were allowed again.
            2. 1976AG
              1976AG 8 February 2021 09: 00
              +12
              This is a ride for you, and he is a combat pilot.
              1. Bez 310
                Bez 310 8 February 2021 09: 01
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                Quote: 1976AG
                This is a ride for you, and he is a combat pilot.

                The commander is not a pilot at all,
                and the organizer of future victories.
                "Pilots" generally end
                at the AE commander level.
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG 8 February 2021 09: 20
                  +8
                  Who told you that? You are simply confusing pilots with sofa experts.
                  1. Bez 310
                    Bez 310 8 February 2021 09: 21
                    -8
                    Quote: 1976AG
                    Who told you that?

                    Yes, the pilots themselves said ...
                    Well, and personal experience.
                    And what, the Commander will personally "intercept"?
                    1. 1976AG
                      1976AG 8 February 2021 09: 58
                      +6
                      Quote: Bez 310
                      Quote: 1976AG
                      Who told you that?

                      Yes, the pilots themselves said ...
                      Well, and personal experience.
                      And what, the Commander will personally "intercept"?

                      Where did you find such pilots? And about personal experience ... tell others fairy tales.
                      1. Bez 310
                        Bez 310 8 February 2021 10: 03
                        -1
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        And about personal experience ... tell others fairy tales.

                        Do you want to get personal?
                        Why do you need this?
                        After all, this is not about me, but about an elderly general,
                        who for some reason climbed into a combat plane.
                        Explain this flight in terms of common sense
                        impossible, but you can try to "put in place"
                        a reader who simply asked - why?
                      2. 1976AG
                        1976AG 8 February 2021 10: 10
                        +5
                        So, according to your judgments, it is clear that you have no personal experience. You would tell him that he is not a pilot, but an elderly general and listen to what he will answer you. But of course it will not be possible to write it literally.
                      3. Bez 310
                        Bez 310 8 February 2021 10: 14
                        -4
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        you have no personal experience.

                        No need about me, I am a simple visitor to this resource, I read the news, enlivened by the fact of the general's personal flight, and asked the question - why did the general do this?
                        I have not received a clear explanation of this fact ...
                        But I remember very well how the general, our division commander, died in flight.
                      4. 1976AG
                        1976AG 8 February 2021 10: 31
                        +1
                        Well, who dies in flight, who is at home in bed, and who is in an accident, to each his own. But it pulls the sky. And it is desirable to know the possibilities of new technology firsthand. Respect is usually those who tried everything themselves, and then began to teach and demand others. And they are theoreticians and theoreticians in Africa.
                      5. Bez 310
                        Bez 310 8 February 2021 10: 39
                        -2
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        But it pulls the sky.

                        These are all emotions ...
                        I got it, explain the general's flight
                        You can not. Well, that's it.
                      6. 1976AG
                        1976AG 8 February 2021 11: 04
                        +7
                        A self-respecting commander, before demanding something, must understand the capabilities of technology and it is desirable to be able to do it himself, but unfortunately you do not understand this.
                      7. nznz
                        nznz 9 February 2021 07: 41
                        0
                        Absolute!
                    2. The Little Humpbacked Horse
                      The Little Humpbacked Horse 8 February 2021 12: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: Bez 310
                      These are all emotions ...
                      I got it, explain the general's flight
                      You can not. Well, that's it.


                      Yes, they can explain, they just do not want to admit the obvious. I myself am a sailor, and I worked as something with one captain, so he loved to wash the superstructure of a steamer from a fireman in the south, he would leave the bridge in his shorts, and the sailors were pulling a fire hose up to here he is supposedly washes the superstructure, and the whole crew from his toiler is consumed
                    3. 1976AG
                      1976AG 8 February 2021 13: 31
                      +1
                      Yes, everything was explained to him long ago, a person simply cannot understand that not all generals are only able to wipe their pants in offices, and a combat general in a fighter and a durogon in shorts on the bridge are completely different things.
                    4. Bez 310
                      Bez 310 8 February 2021 13: 47
                      +2
                      Quote: Humpbacked Horse
                      Yes, they can explain, they just do not want to admit the obvious.

                      That's exactly what you got it all right,
                      and gave a stunning example.
                      I personally have flown many times with generals,
                      and I know that the general on the plane is only
                      satisfaction of the general's ambitions,
                      and tremendous stress for everyone who provides
                      this flight.
                    5. Pamir
                      Pamir 10 February 2021 01: 09
                      -1
                      Bez, do not get into a squabble, from a distinguished guest, one hassle, and plus stress, psycho-pressure on the crews, after all, many do not even know the functions of deputy politicians. it will not hurt them, in our time they will be equated to a military order, with all the regalia, as expected. Kharchevsky received an award for his flight with the president, I suppose?
                2. BABAY22
                  BABAY22 8 February 2021 13: 12
                  +13
                  Here you have made a storm in a glass of water.
                  General flying, what's wrong with that.
                  Now is not the 90s, when every barrel of kerosene was counted.
                3. Alexey RA
                  Alexey RA 8 February 2021 18: 09
                  +3
                  Quote: BABAY22
                  Here you have made a storm in a glass of water.
                  General flying, what's wrong with that.
                  Now is not the 90s, when every barrel of kerosene was counted.

                  The problem is that for the commander of the Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Northern Fleet, flight is an absolutely non-core thing; his task is to control the actions of units and formations entrusted to him, and not to personally participate in combat in the style of the unforgettable Kliment Efremovich.
                  If a general goes on a combat sortie in a combat situation, then the command and control system has collapsed and command and control has been lost. Because in a different situation he will not have time to fly.
  • nznz
    nznz 9 February 2021 07: 28
    +2
    agree with you. The man who hollows why, why was not there. And the flyers need to try there. And it's not the runway, there is a stormy weather and wind, there were cases when heavy planes were demolished and blinded by a squall ... they flew off the runway, broke off the runway. And it is very important that the commander who sends his guys on risky flights does not make stupid mistakes, relying on theory. I am far from aviation, but in our work there have been many cases when the new leader, an arrogant turkey, created dangerous situations. until I tried it and calmed down. It's good that he left quickly, the team did not accept him. And he did not listen to old people with experience (old people by experience).
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 8 February 2021 11: 05
    +3
    Quote: bober1982
    Is this a show-off.

    Vladimir, it is useless to explain anything, because everything is dull. Tellingly, in other situations the same organisms begin to howl about "plump parquet generals" - such are their harsh bourgeois everyday life. yes hi
    1. 2534M
      2534M 10 February 2021 01: 58
      -2
      Quote: Paranoid50
      the same organisms begin to howl about "plump parquet generals"

      unlike you Bez 310 is not an "organism from a sofa", and a person more than in the subject and with flying experience
  • Runway
    Runway 8 February 2021 08: 23
    0
    Plaque hours. Three hours round trip.
    1. nznz
      nznz 9 February 2021 07: 29
      0
      and this is. I do not know how it is now, but at the age of 60 the general will receive a pension.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 February 2021 08: 41
    +5
    No. Not the level to show off. Pontorez do not last long in fighter aircraft.
    1. 2534M
      2534M 10 February 2021 02: 06
      -1
      Quote: Captive
      Not the level to show off. Pontorez do not last long in fighter aircraft.

      are you talking about the "case with the Su-34"?
      or the famous PONTORESA from Facebook, provoking (with the blessing of the command) the flight crew to show off?
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  • Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 8 February 2021 14: 58
    0
    They are also supposed to do flight hours
    1. Bez 310
      Bez 310 8 February 2021 15: 00
      +1
      Quote: Interlocutor
      They are also supposed to do flight hours

      For what?
      1. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 8 February 2021 15: 01
        +1
        To confirm qualifications. He's probably a sniper pilot
        1. Bez 310
          Bez 310 8 February 2021 15: 02
          +3
          Quote: Interlocutor
          To confirm qualifications.

          Why should he confirm his qualifications if
          Does the commander "go to battle" sitting in the bunker?
          Now you have the right opportunity
          to answer the question - why do generals fly?
          1. Interlocutor
            Interlocutor 8 February 2021 15: 07
            -1
            Why should he confirm his qualifications?


            So that the plane could continue to land in cloud cover from 100 meters above the ground and above.
            And they fly at any opportunity. Moreover, in this case it is the redeployment of a certain amount of equipment. He is most likely determined by the senior of the whole event.
            1. Bez 310
              Bez 310 8 February 2021 15: 10
              0
              Quote: Interlocutor
              So that the plane could continue to land

              You failed to give the correct answer ...
              1. nznz
                nznz 9 February 2021 07: 31
                +1
                You did not manage to ask the right question. You have already been answered, this is the Arctic. There are few theoreticians or not at all. From the control room, without knowing the conditions, you will not plant anything there. conditions there are hellish. I know.
                1. Bez 310
                  Bez 310 9 February 2021 08: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: nznz
                  this is the Arctic.

                  Don't tell me anything about the Arctic, I flew there.
                  But the general's flight is not at all about the Arctic.
                  1. nznz
                    nznz 9 February 2021 09: 06
                    +1
                    probably now only the general himself will explain to you.

                    about the Arctic, it is different everywhere. there is a coastal Arctic, Tiksi, Dikson, Narn-mar, Amderma.

                    the question is, what did you call the New Land? For a long time it was impossible to name anything at all and there were names that changed geographic.

                    according to weather conditions, you can probably compare Norilsk tllko-72 degrees are the same as on the NZ near Belushka.
                    1. Bez 310
                      Bez 310 9 February 2021 09: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: nznz
                      what did you call the New Land?

                      So they called it.
                      The call sign of the Rogachevo airfield is "Grasshopper".
            2. 2534M
              2534M 10 February 2021 01: 54
              -2
              Quote: Interlocutor
              And they fly at any opportunity.

              only, according to the results of the airborne conservancy, the average flight time turned out to be frankly "liquid" - less than 100 hours ...
              in MA - generally popets (MA BF at level 60)
          2. 2534M
            2534M 10 February 2021 01: 55
            -2
            Quote: Bez 310
            why do generals fly?

            let them fly
            on something like Lek
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 8 February 2021 19: 10
          -1
          Quote: Interlocutor
          To confirm qualifications. He's probably a sniper pilot

          He no longer needs to confirm anything - is that clear? You definitely served in the Air Force?
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 8 February 2021 15: 10
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        Quote: Interlocutor
        They are also supposed to do flight hours

        For what?

        At least so that the preferential length of service was. a year in two.
        1. Bez 310
          Bez 310 8 February 2021 15: 13
          0
          Quote: Piramidon
          At least so that the flight seniority was. a year in two.

          The general has more seniority than he is,
          and he just doesn't need it. Sit down, deuce!
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 8 February 2021 15: 16
            +1
            Quote: Bez 310
            Sit down, deuce!

            A teacher or what?
            1. 2534M
              2534M 10 February 2021 01: 52
              -2
              Quote: Piramidon
              A teacher or what?

              actually he is a navigator
              and not just a navigator, but with more than worthy experience in serious positions in naval aviation
        2. nznz
          nznz 9 February 2021 07: 33
          +1
          flying hours for length of service is not required. On the islands, the military always took two years for a year. We have a different ministry and it’s a shame, but in a year and a half in total. work around the clock in any weather.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 9 February 2021 12: 12
            +1
            Quote: nznz
            flying hours for length of service is not required. On the islands, the military always took two years

            If the required annual flight time is not available, then the length of service for the flight crew goes for a year and a half, instead of a year for two. And the commander did not sit on the islands.
  • Eirik Krause
    Eirik Krause 8 February 2021 18: 05
    0
    Why do you need other people's troubles? "Many knowledge, many sorrows" (C)
  • Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 8 February 2021 17: 56
    +2
    Quote: Bez 310
    Quote: 1976AG
    you have no personal experience.

    No need about me, I am a simple visitor to this resource, I read NovoBelst, animated by the fact of the general's personal flight, and asked the question - why did the general do this?
    I have not received a clear explanation of this fact ...
    But I remember very well how the general, our division commander, died in flight.

    Why would a simple visitor comment on the specifics of aviation, landing troops. 1968 - 1970 ... served in the 1070 separate communications and radio technical support division of the Center for Combat Use and Retraining of Flight Personnel named after E.N. Preobrazhensky (Ukraine, Nikolaev, Kulbakino). When relocating, according to the mobplan, we are auto and infantry smile had to tear to a new place (some earlier, some later), the flight crew, led by the commander, the political officer (nacpO), went there by air. Therefore, everyone flew to whom it should be during redeployment. Well, so that he would not be surprised later, even cooks and scribes were jumping at the landing party ... By the way, I also managed to serve in Belushka (Rogachi). Good to you guys northerners. Soviet-10, Fomina-2 ??? (where the walls were with a stove, they were heated with air).
    1. nznz
      nznz 9 February 2021 07: 35
      +1
      fomina 8.with a boiler.
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  • Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 8 February 2021 18: 06
    +2
    And in general ... to the northerners-New Zealanders big greetings from the Novaya Zemlyans of 1974-82. How young we were, how sincerely we loved our NZ, Gusinoe ... Nekhvatova. Someone further, someone higher ... To each his own, but we are all NEW LANDS !!!
    1. nznz
      nznz 9 February 2021 07: 37
      +2
      Thank you earth. 7 years of happiness in this blessed met. Pledged by three generations of my family.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 9 February 2021 09: 51
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    Quote: FRoman1984
    Again the war of the General Staff with windmills ...

    Well, firstly, there are targets for an attack, although there are few, but the main thing is that this is just a place where missiles can fly to more important points. The range of cruise missiles is not weak.
    for example, an attack on Krasnoyarsk or Novosibirsk is quite real. In addition, from there, you can strike at our missile forces.
    Well, the last, elementary destruction of the Transsib is also unpleasant. For more information on the goals, see the American dropshot plans.
    1. nznz
      nznz 9 February 2021 10: 45
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      all the time it seemed to me that the main and priority tasks of the attacking side were the suppression of launch pads, from where something could fly. There is no such thing on NZ. Transsib, well, it is possible, but why, if at the same time the missiles will fly in return. These are secondary targets designed for a protracted war. But it will not be. There will be an exchange of missiles from all means. Since the Russian Federation has adjusted its military doctrine and introduced the concept of a preemptive strike, it’s generally difficult, what will the amers have after a preventive strike, and will there be enough for such non-primary purposes .. agree the test site, now and always, is only a test site, not an attack weapon. Air defense - well, probably. But they are also counted for interception and not weapons of attack. So why shoot at them until the launching shatkhas and submarines and aircraft are destroyed. Will get it for everyone.
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 9 February 2021 11: 27
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        the essence of the first blow is to cover everything at once.
        the Russian Federation has a strategic advantage in that part of the infrastructure is deep in the rear.
        and this meant that tactical short- and medium-range missiles could not quickly cover all targets
        if shelling opens from the northern coast and part of independent bases on the territory of the former republics, then almost the entire territory is covered within 15-25 minutes
        plus ballistic missiles.
        and the main function of the mig-31 is to seriously complicate the attack on deep territories in Asia - this aircraft is not able to adequately protect the European part
        But the times when we could only wait for a pitiful handful of bombers, which had passed by the teeth of the moment-31.
        now the main threat from the north is about 10-20 arsenal of submarine and surface spikes, ready to launch several hundred cruise missiles and about two hundred ballistic trident3. This is why the United States is seeking "free shipping" along the Northern Sea Route. They simply have no other purpose of staying there.
        And for such tasks, the moment-31 is poorly suited. Much better is seen the banal IL-76 in conjunction with the A-100 or the Mig-31, loaded with fifty anti-aircraft missiles or a network of s300, s-400, s-500 missile batteries. And such projects were already being worked out before the collapse of the USSR.