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The "old" Sicilian mafia

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Shot from the Italian TV series "Octopus"


Article Albanian crime clans outside Albania it was also said that the "families" of this Balkan country actively cooperate with the criminal communities of neighboring Italy. Continuing the topic, in a small series of articles, we will talk about the Sicilian Mafia, Campanian Camorra, Calabrian Ndrangheta and Apulian Sacra crown unit. And let's start with a story about the emergence of the "old" Sicilian mafia.

Thanks to cinema, other ethnic criminal groups - Russians, Jewish, Mexican, Greek, Irish, and so on - are now called "mafia". Meanwhile, "Irish mafiosi" are the same as "Finnish Indians", "Mexican Vikings" or "Ukrainian samurai". The only foreign criminal groups organized on similar principles to the mafia are Albanian, which operate on the basis of the Besё (literal translation - "trust") code, which is extremely similar to the Sicilian "Omerta". This was discussed in the article Albanian crime clans outside Albania.

The clans of the real Sicilian mafia are still family organizations, and strangers admitted to one of them are "adopted" by them.

Societa d'onore, La Mano Nera and Cosa Nostra


Mafia is often called Cosa Nostra ("Our Business"), but this name appeared in the United States and relatively recently - after 1929. Most researchers believe that it was invented by the famous New York mobster Salvatore Lucania, better known as Charlie or Lucky (Lucky) Luciano. Allegedly, it was he who proposed it at the famous mafia "conference" in Atlantic City in May 1929 (it will be discussed in the next article). However, some believe that this name originally appeared in the FBI documents as a designation of Italian ethnic gangs operating in the United States, and only then began to be used by members of these criminal clans.

One way or another, the name stuck, and now the mafiosi themselves call their "families" Cosa Nostroy. Prior to this, the Sicilians called this organization Societa d'onore - "Honor Society". And the first Sicilian gangs in the United States were called La Mano Nera - "Black Hand". The fundamental difference between Cosa Nostra and La Mano Nera is the wide cooperation of its "families" with people of non-Cilian and even non-Italian origin. We'll talk more about this in the next article.

Legendary Founding Fathers


The legend, first recorded in 1890, says that the founders of the three main criminal groups in Italy were brothers from Toledo, associated with the local gang "La Garduna".

It is curious that a certain Madame de Subervik, in a pamphlet written in 1846, speaks of this gang as a long-standing secret organization of the Jesuits. It is difficult to say whether this gang actually existed, or was invented by this French woman who wanted to show what terrible things the Jesuits are doing in Spain. Perhaps some gang actually traded in Toledo and its environs, but most likely had nothing to do with the Jesuits, being a purely criminal "brigade". But back to our legend.

While the "Toledo brothers" limited themselves to plundering ordinary townspeople and peasants, the authorities did not pay much attention to them. But one day they killed their sister's rapist, who turned out to be a noble man and even a close associate of the king. The bandits were caught and sent to prison on the island of Favignana, located near Sicily. Here they allegedly spent 29 years, 11 months and 29 days, after which they managed to escape. The eldest of the brothers, Osso, who chose Jesus Christ himself as his patron, landed in Sicily, establishing the Mafia here. Mastrosso, who chose the patron of the Archangel Michael, became the founder of the Calabrian Ndrangheta. Carcagnosso, dedicated to Saint Peter, founded the Campanian (Neapolitan) Camorra. The main feature of these "honor societies" was the presence of the law of Omerta (silence, failure to report). This law was especially strictly observed in Sicily.

It is the mafia that is currently the most famous criminal community in the world: "old", Sicilian, and "new" - American. The best known are the Chicago and New York clans of Cosa Nostra. The Chicago mafia is inextricably linked with the name of Al Capone, and the "frontman" of the New York is Charles (Lucky) Luciano. Carl Gambino managed to spread the influence of his "family" (which from 1985 to 2002 was headed by the equally famous John Gotti) to New York, Chicago and Los Angeles. But more on that later.

What is "mafia"?


Sicily has an extremely advantageous geographical position and is famous for its excellent climate (in many guidebooks you can read that "there is no bad weather"), and therefore it constantly served as an object of expansion of the surrounding states.


Sicily on mediterranean map

The Greeks, Carthaginians, Romans, Normans and Arabs tried to gain a foothold on this island. In the Middle Ages, the German Hohenstaufens, the French and the Aragonese fought for him. You can even say that Sicily served as an indicator of the power of various nations and states: whoever owned this island was stronger. That is why they try to translate the word "mafia" using different languages. There are a great many versions, and its meaning varies over a very wide range.

Many authors are convinced that the word "mafia" originally had a negative connotation. Some say that it comes from the Tuscan word maffa ("poverty" or "misfortune"). They refer to the first dictionary of the Sicilian dialect, published in 1868, where "mafia" is called a word brought to Sicily by Garibaldi's volunteers in 1860, and speculate about its Tuscan origins. But in the same dictionary the Campanian word Camorra is called a synonym for the word "mafia". That is, in the Tuscan dialect there are no analogues to the name of this organization, just as there is no word by which a criminal community of this type could be called. And therefore this version is doubtful.

Some researchers derive the word "mafia" from the French Mauvais ("bad") or from the Arabic Mahias (to deceive, fool). Another consonant Arabic word - Magtaa, means a cave (supporters of this version believe that this is an allusion to the gangs who took refuge in these caves).

At the same time, according to Diego Gambeta, in Sicily in the XNUMXth century, the word "mafiusu" was used in relation to proud, arrogant and cocky people, but sometimes it served as a synonym for the word "brave". In the Russian language there is a word with a similar meaning - "dashing": it can be applied to a person "evil, bringing trouble", but it is also used in the meaning of "daring, courageous".

Other authors, on the contrary, are trying to ennoble the word "mafia". So, for example, some researchers argue that it is formed from two Arabic words - Mu '(strength or security) and afah (protection, protection) - Mu'afah.

Finally, there are supporters of the version according to which the word "mafia" is an abbreviation. Some say that it is derived from the phrase Mazzini Autorizza Furti, Incendi, Avvelenamenti (“Mazzini allows robbery, arson and poisoning”). Others talk about the phrase Morete Alla Francia, Italia Anela ("The death of France is Italy's sincere desire"). In this case, as we can see, the mafia acts as a patriotic organization that unites fighters against the French occupation.

Another "patriotic" version connects the word "mafia" with the events of the so-called "Sicilian Supper", when the Anjou dynasty was overthrown in 1282. Then on Easter Monday, a French soldier raped a young Sicilian, and on her wedding day. According to legend, the girl's mother went mad with grief and ran through the streets shouting "Ma fia!" (My daughter!). Outraged inhabitants of Palermo revolted and killed the invaders.

However, according to another version, on March 30, 1282, the Frenchman simply molested a girl who wanted to enter the church. In the ensuing scuffle, the Sicilian men killed the insolent man. At this time, the bell sounded, calling people to evening prayer, and more and more people came to the church. The stories about the incident were overgrown with more and more details, it all ended in an uprising, during which thousands of French were killed.


Erulo Eroli. Sicilian Vespers

After the French, the Aragonese came to Sicily, and for many years this island belonged to the Spanish Habsburgs, and then to the Spanish Bourbons. In 1860, Sicily became the base of the Thousand Campaign organized by Garibaldi, which ended with the fall of the Neapolitan Bourbon Kingdom of the Two Sicilies and the annexation of Southern Italy to the Sardinian Kingdom.

The "old" Sicilian mafia
Disembarkation of Garibaldi in Sicily

This is how the Kingdom of Italy was created, in which Sicily was traditionally a backward depressive territory with a low standard of living and almost universal illiteracy.

But when does the word "mafia" appear in written sources in a meaning close to the modern - "secret criminal group"?

For the first time it sounded in the report of the prosecutor of the Sicilian province of Trapani Pietro Ulloa in 1838 (even under the Bourbons), who wrote to the Minister of Justice:

“In many villages there are brotherhoods, mostly consisting of seven people and calling themselves parties. They do not arrange gatherings and are associated only with their leader, who is in some places an official, in others - a priest. "

In 1843, a play by Gaetano Mosca and Giuseppe Rizzotto, Mafia in the Vicar, was published (Vicar is the name of the prison in Palermo).

Then, in 1865, we see this word in the report of the prefect of Palermo, the Marquis Filippo Gvalterio.

Finally, in May 1875, the Chevalier of Soragny, Deputy Prefect of Palermo, writes to the Minister of Foreign Affairs:

"Mafia ... this huge organization ... which has spread to the entire social organism and, using opposite methods of intimidation and patronage, is trying to replace public authority ... Now it has more power than government and law."

And in 1894, Italian Interior Minister Girolamo Cantelli spoke of the mafia as a "real social scourge" and "epidemic."

On the other hand, many experts say that the mafia is not only a criminal community, but also a lifestyle. Giuseppe Pitre, himself a native of Palermo, wrote:

“Mafiosi are not a thief or a vagabond ... Mafiosi are extremely brave and tough people, people who never fall for the bait ... Mafiosi wants to be respected, and almost always respects others himself. If he is offended, then he does not rely on either law or justice, but he himself administers it; when he lacks the strength to do so, he acts with the help of other people who find themselves in the same situation as him. "

The influence of the mafia was already so great that there was a saying on the island:

“There are three governments in Sicily: Rome, the regional government and the mafia. But the mafia needs to obey unquestioningly or die. "

Mafioso


Jan Potocki's novel Manuscript Found in Saragossa has a good account of how the mafia came to be. The robber Zoto, the son of a Calabrian bandit, who by the will of fate ended up in Sicily, tells the protagonist of this novel about the chieftain of his first gang. It was Testa-Longa - a resident of the town of Val Caster, located at the foot of Etna, who was outlawed after the murder of the local duke, who "thrust his hand into the corsage" of his wife. Zoto's words:

"In his place, every decent person would have done the same."

And here's what happened next:

“Testa-Longa entered into negotiations with the main tenants of the surrounding estates.
“We will rob together,” he told them. - When I come to you, give me whatever you want, and for this you can blame all your robberies on me in front of the owners.
Testa-Longa conscientiously divided everything between his comrades ... Moreover, passing through some village, he ordered to pay for everything in half, so that very soon he became the idol of both Sicilies. "

Thus, with minimal risk to himself and his people, Testa-Longa received money, fame and reputation.


Zoto is a former Sicilian bandit, the son of a Calabrian robber. Still from the Polish film "The Manuscript Found in Saragossa"

Over time, some of these tenants came to the very logical conclusion that paying even a small part of the "profit" to field commanders like Testa Longa is economically impractical. They themselves created detachments that allegedly robbed them. With the help of these gangs, they kept both disgruntled peasants and intractable aristocrats at bay.

But the "brotherhood" of the mafia included not only fraudulent tenants and "romantic bandits", but also quite respected citizens - priests, lawyers, doctors and even "heads of administrations."

The "Honor Society" offered its "protection" both to the local barons and to the peasants who worked for them, acting as a kind of intermediary and taking payment from both. In case of any "offense", the person turned to the local "godfather", who could help collect the debt (taking a certain percentage of the amount returned) or avenge the "outraged honor". People who tried to solve their problems on their own were persecuted by both the mafia and local authorities, often under the control of "respected people". Those who refused "protection" were first warned. As such a "warning" they could burn down farm buildings, destroy crops, throw the head of a sheep, pig, donkey or mule under the door. If this did not help, they abducted a family member and again entered into negotiations, threatening to send his ear or finger with the next letter. Finally, they killed the head of the family or someone from the household. In this case, the head of the local mafia clan referred to one of the piccolo ("baby"). Kissing him on the lips, he called the name of the victim and uttered a ritual phrase:

"If the mother (or father) demands, the baby obeys!"

"Picciolo" took a lupar (that was the name of the sawn-off shotgun of a hunting rifle, usually used for hunting wolves) and went to obey the order. At the same time, he added salt to the buckshot.


Lupara found in one of the caches

It was supposed to shoot at close range in the face or the back of the head. After the successful execution of this order, the killer's status increased, and he was no longer called Picciolo, but Tavaro - "Bull".

Each member of the "Honor Society" was under the protection of the entire clan, an attack on him was punished even at the risk of high losses. Traitors were sentenced to death; they usually learned about the sentencing when they saw the head of a dog (or the corpse of a dog without a head) at their door.

In "historical times "admission to the" brotherhood "began to take place in a ritual similar to the Masonic. The candidate was introduced into a dark room by two clan members who vouched for him, here he pierced the middle finger, soaked a paper image with blood and burned it over a candle, taking an oath. In it, he promised "to remain faithful to the brothers, never to deceive or betray them, to help them with all his might" and assured everyone:

"As this holy icon turned into ashes, so will I disappear, if I do not keep my oath."

Such was the old Sicilian mafia that few people had heard of outside Italy. But soon a new mafia appeared - the American one. It is curious that back in the 30s of the twentieth century, new members of the American Cosa Nostra, upon "initiation", took an oath in the Sicilian dialect of the Italian language. The phrase was added to its text:

"I live by gun and knife and die by gun and knife."

But the final part remained almost unchanged:

"May I turn to ash like this paper if I betray the organization."

This is known from the testimony of Joseph Valachi, who was admitted to one of the New York "families" in 1930.

Mussolini against the mafia


The "Godfathers" of Sicily at one time financially supported the future Duce, donating a certain amount to organize the "campaign against Rome" (October 28, 1922). The King of Italy, Victor Emmanuel III, had enough strength to disperse the "Blackshirts", but he did not dare to give an order to the army. Instead, the cowardly monarch appointed Mussolini head of government, in which he received dictatorial powers, taking also the posts of ministers of internal and foreign affairs.

During Mussolini's trip to Sicily in 1924, an incident occurred that had far-reaching consequences for both the mafiosi and fascist Italy.

The hero of the scandal was the mayor of the city of Piana dei Greci (and also the head of the local mafia clan), Ciccio Cuccia. This rascal in 1923 managed to shove his newborn son into the arms of the king of Italy in the church, who unexpectedly became the godfather of this child and, according to the protocol, was forced to award the mafiosi the Order of the Italian Cross.

Ciccio suggested that Mussolini give up the protection, saying that next to him the dictator was not in danger. After an arrogant refusal, he forbade the townspeople to attend the fascist rally at which Duce spoke. Offended by Mussolini, he issued a decree to completely ban the mafia, and the Minister of Police, Cesare Mori, was appointed responsible for its "eradication".

This campaign turned out to be extremely "dirty": many Sicilians took advantage of the pretext to settle scores with their neighbors, the police did not particularly understand and reacted to any, even the most absurd denunciations, beating out "confessions" with the help of torture and torture.

The largest convicted mafia leader turned out to be Don Vito Casho Ferro, who in 1909 personally killed the American police lieutenant Joe Petrosino, who was sent to Sicily to "exchange experiences", and also more than 20 people. They managed to accuse him only of smuggling.

In 1934, Mussolini stated:

“The mafia is gone. She is finally destroyed. We wiped it off the face of the earth forever! "

However, many "people of honor" escaped punishment. They either hid or left the island, including going to the United States, where they joined the ranks of the local Cosa Nostra. And in 1932, in honor of the tenth anniversary of the "March on Rome" in Italy, a large-scale amnesty was held, as a result of which many convicted mafiosi were released. Many years of efforts by the police (among whom there were honest people who sincerely wanted to rid Sicily of criminals) went to waste, but the mafia did not forgive Mussolini.

"Antifascists" of the American and Sicilian Mafia


After the US entered World War II, New York District Attorney Frank Hougan proposed using the Cosa Nostra to counter sabotage and prevent possible sabotage in American ports, saying:

“I am deeply convinced that so many of these Italians racketeers are loyal Americans. As far as I know them, they do not give Mussolini a penny. "

And soon Lucky Luciano, who was in an American prison, was visited by old friends and associates - the lawyer Moses Polakoff and Meyer Lansky, "the mafia accountant" (one of the founders of the gambling business in Las Vegas). On behalf of the American government, they made the "godfather" "an offer that cannot be refused."


Lucky Luciano and Meyer Lansky

Cooperation with the mafia was very successful: American ports during the war years worked like a clock. And during the landing of the Allies in Sicily ("Operation Husky"), the losses of the Americans, who were assisted by local mafiosi, were significantly less than the British.

The eighth British army of Montgomery, which landed in Syracuse and Pachino, fought its way to Messina for 5 weeks with stubborn battles.

American troops of George Patton (Seventh Army) from Jele and Licate reached Palermo in seven days practically without fighting. On this journey, at the request of Lucky Luciano, they were personally accompanied by the "boss of the bosses" of Sicily - Calogero Vizzini (Don Calo), whom the Americans called "General of the Mafia". Later, he was even appointed mayor of the city of Villalba and was awarded the rank of "honorary colonel" of the American army.


Calogero Vizzini, illiterate "boss of the bosses" of the Sicilian mafia

And the second most influential mafioso of the island, Genco Russo, without any help captured Colonel Salemi - a convinced fascist and commander of the impregnable fortress of Monte Cammarat. Many of the soldiers and officers of the demoralized garrison were Sicilians. Threatened with reprisals against their family members, they capitulated to the mafiosi.


Giuseppe Genco Russo, boss of the mafia of the city of Mussomeli (province of Caltanissetta)

According to eyewitnesses, in the cities where the Americans entered, shooting often began: emboldened mafiosi settled scores with their enemies and overly principled police officers.

In 1962-1963. in Sicily, the so-called "First Mafia War" began, in which the "authoritative" clan of Salvatore Greco met with the "upstarts" from the "family" of Angelo La Barbera. The culmination of those events was the explosion in the city of Ciaculli (June 30, 1963), which claimed many lives of random people. This terrorist attack caused great indignation, its important consequence was a change for the worse in the attitude towards the mafia of ordinary Sicilians. The repressive repression of the authorities forced many mafiosi to emigrate to the United States.

Another blow was dealt to the mafia in 1978, when 114 members of various "families" were arrested and convicted ("Trial 114").

Unlike Mussolini's short-term campaign, in modern Italy the fight against the mafia is constantly and very active. In this photograph, taken by Letitsiya Battalya in Sicily in 1980, we see the moment of the arrest of the famous mobster Leoluca Bagarella:


Laetitia states that after she took this photo, Bagarella managed to kick her so hard in the stomach that she fell to the ground.

A powerful blow to the Sicilian mafia was dealt in 1986-1987: 338 mafiosi were convicted thanks to the activities of the prosecutor Giovanni Falcone.


Giovanni Falcone at the funeral of the murdered mafia police prefect of Palermo Carlo Alberto dalla Chiesa, 1982, fotograf Letitsiya Battalya

In May 1992, Falcone overtook the revenge of the mafia: his car was blown up near Palermo. In addition to the prosecutor, his wife and three bodyguards were killed.


Memorial sign at the site of the death of the prosecutor Giovanni Falcone

Two months later, the car of his successor, Paolo Borsellino, was blown up in Palermo. Currently, the names Falcone and Borsellino are assigned to the Palermo airport. A tree grows at the door of Falcone's house, on which photographs of new victims of the mafia are now placed next to his portrait. And in one of the squares of Palermo, you can see a black stele dedicated to the memory of all people who have ever died at the hands of the mafiosi.

Judges and prosecutors handling mafia-related cases are often under government protection. In this 1998 photograph, also taken by Letizia Bataglia, you see Judge Roberto Scarpitano walking surrounded by four guards:


Judge Roberto Scarpitano with security, 1998, fotograf Letitsiya Battalya

La Stidda


In the 80s of the twentieth century, a new criminal group La Stidda ("Star") appeared in Sicily, which broke away from the "old" mafia. It was headed by Croce Benvento and Salvatore Calafato, the members of this organization are called steddari or steddaroli.

According to the most probable version, La Stidda got its name from the locally revered icon "Madonna with the Star".

La Stidda managed to withstand the "Great Mafia War" that unfolded in the 80s of the twentieth century (according to forensic experts, up to a thousand Zvezda militants and about 500 mafia members were killed then). Currently, La Stidda controls the southern part of Sicily, especially its position in the area near the cities of Gele, Agrigento and Caltanissetta.


This organization also has branches in Genoa, Turin and Milan. Little is known about her activities, it is believed that the main sphere of interests of the "splitters" is control over the sphere of sexual services and the organization of the gambling business.

Now let's go back a little and see that at the end of the XNUMXth century, a new, even more powerful mafia began to emerge in the United States. The reason for its occurrence was the massive emigration to this country of Italians, among whom there were many immigrants from Sicily.

"Lemon Rush"


Many people know that the US mafia clans got very rich on the illegal import of alcoholic beverages, their production "locally" and the trade in alcohol during the "Prohibition" (we will talk about this in the next article). And that the basis of the well-being of the modern mafia is the drug trade. Mafiosi also do not disdain trade now weapons, an organization of sexual services, earn on illegal migration. However, the first successful "business project" of the mafia "families" of Sicily was the control over the cultivation and export of lemons.

The fact is that for many centuries the real "scourge" of sailors of all countries was scurvy. Only in the middle of the XNUMXth century did the Scottish physician James Lind prove that when fruits are included in the diet, the incidence of scurvy decreases sharply. Lemons were found to be especially useful. At the end of the XNUMXth century, the British Royal Committee fleet for the sick and wounded, issued a recommendation to make it mandatory for the crews of all state-owned ships to consume lemon juice. "Private traders" followed them, and then the captains of foreign ships learned about the benefits of lemons. Now it became extremely profitable to start lemon plantations in Sicily, demand was constantly growing, supply was lagging, and the prices of lemons were constantly going up. Mafiosi immediately offered their services to "protect the plantations", as well as their safe transportation to ports and loading onto ships. When huge plantations of lemon trees appeared in Florida in the early twentieth century and demand for Sicilian lemons fell, many bankrupt farmers emigrated to the United States. Most of them were forced to get any job there and work literally for a pittance.


Italian immigrants to the USA, photo from the early XNUMXth century

But some have formed new mafia clans here, which eventually surpassed the old Sicilian mafia in scale. At first, these new mafiosi collected levies only from their fellow countrymen, but soon turned their eyes to people of any other nationalities. The first mafia organization in the United States appeared in New Orleans in 1890 and was named the Black Hand. It is characteristic that it was the “fruit dealers” who founded it.

We will talk about this and much more in the next article.
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  1. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 9 February 2021 05: 19
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    Just a great article !. Collected interesting material. Photo.
    Perhaps, in the last years of the 20th century, some information could be obtained in print. But now it's harder to learn about that time
    Thank you very much.
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 9 February 2021 08: 39
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      Excellent Article by Valery Ryzhov, easy to read and superbly illustrated. Thank you very much. I think the whole "mafia" cycle will look very dignified!
      I would like to know more about the connections of the American Mafia and trade union organizations, and of the interaction of the mafia with other criminal communities of the world.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 09: 59
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        Quote: Hunter 2
        Excellent Article by Valery Ryzhov, easy to read and superbly illustrated. Thank you very much. I think the whole "mafia" cycle will look very dignified!
        I would like to know more about the connections of the American Mafia and trade union organizations, and of the interaction of the mafia with other criminal communities of the world.

        Mostly Jews worked with trade unions - remember "Once Upon a Time in America." Italians, too, but smaller. And the cartoon "trade unions-organized crime" is generally originally Irish)).
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 9 February 2021 10: 08
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          The notorious Jimmy Hoffa - worked just with the Italians, they (according to rumors) dug him out after his release from prison.
          Mafia - Trade Unions, the topic is generally interesting. Mafiosi attracted both employers to put pressure on trade unions and trade unions to put pressure on employers.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 9 February 2021 10: 18
            +5
            Yes, everyone worked with them - more Jews.
            on the training and education of gangster-controlled trade unions in the most important industries at the time - among dock workers, car drivers, metalworkers, etc.
            Similar attempts to curb and subjugate the independent trade union movement have been made in the past. So, back in the early [19] 20-ies of the mafia Frank Ayalle began to flirt with New York laundresses, pulling them out of the influence of local trade unions. Each of them paid him $ 4 a month to protect her from the oppression of her owners. His colleague in banditry, Moses Annenberg from Chicago, Al Capone's henchman, quickly seized control of the Duffygen Press driver's union, as well as the staff of finished printed products

            That is, Baksi Segal and Lansky did their unions
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 9 February 2021 10: 32
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              In 1958, Hoover published his famous book on how to fight communism, both Marxism and all leftist ideologies are stigmatized. The program included a whole range of illegal measures - inciting the mafia against the communists (this FBI operation was codenamed "Deception"), contract killings, false accusations of drug and arms trafficking, inciting internal conflicts, fabricating compromising evidence, spreading provocative rumors, slander, forged documents, falsified photographs.
              Valery wrote in some detail about helping the Mafia in the fight against fascism, but ... The Mafia also fought well against communism! Mafia - Enemies of the Communists wink
              Valery, if possible, I am also interested in the connections between the Mafia and the special services.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 9 February 2021 10: 44
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                This is already "gossip" - the work of bandits for the authorities laughing
                The enemies of the communists from irresponsible Italian comrades, instead of joining a number of the Communist Party, began to work for North American imperialism, seduced by the aesthetics of the dollar and the ideology of cash am
                1. Hunter 2
                  Hunter 2 9 February 2021 10: 51
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                  Quote: Krasnodar

                  The enemies of the communists from among irresponsible Italian comrades, instead of joining a number of the Communist Party, began to work for North American imperialism:

                  The Sicilian Mafia and the KGB did a good job at one time bully so not only the imperialists were helped. yes
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 9 February 2021 11: 44
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                    Oh, so these enemies of the communists were also friends of the communists laughing
                    1. Hunter 2
                      Hunter 2 9 February 2021 14: 26
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                      That's right, the Enemies of the Communists were friends of the Enemies of the Communists, but they were friends with the Communists. Enemies were the Enemies of the Communists. what
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 15: 14
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                        It is necessary to call an expert, whose name is inscribed in golden letters in the VO forum. You can't figure it out without her yes
                      2. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 9 February 2021 16: 10
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                        In 1964, Leonid Kolosov (own correspondent of the Izvestia newspaper, lieutenant colonel of the KGB) visited Sicily for the first time at the invitation of the local godfather Nikolo Giantile. The first informal contacts were made with some of the mafia leaders. Thanks to this source, a coup d'état was averted in Italy, which was being prepared by the Italian military and US intelligence services.
                        Kolosov is a very extraordinary personality, he was in contact with both the “godfathers” and the highest clergy of the Catholic Church. Scout with a capital letter.
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 16: 13
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                        Creative, you will not say anything)).
                      4. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 9 February 2021 16: 26
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                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Creative, you will not say anything)).

                        And how...
                        In 63rd year John XXIII headed the Vatican. The Italians called him "good dad." During the Cuban missile crisis, he sent a letter to Catholic John F. Kennedy urging him not to bring the crisis to war. This and other responses of John XXIII to the actions of some Western politicians became the basis for considering the Head of the Catholic Church as a possible ally. We decided to agree that he would not mind and support the coming of the communists to power in Italy. Khrushchev's son-in-law Alexei Adzhubei arrived in Rome.
                        Kolosov organized a meeting between Adjubei and John XXIII. We agreed on a "chance" meeting in the Pope's art gallery. During the meeting, the Pope put forward three demands for the Soviet leadership:
                        - to give greater freedom to the Orthodox Church;
                        - release all priests of the Uniate Church in Ukraine;
                        - Khrushchev was supposed to be the first to come to Rome.
                        The USSR assessed this event as a diplomatic victory and promised to fulfill all the requirements of the Pope.
                        That's what I understand - Interesting Destiny !!! good
                      5. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 16: 33
                        +4
                        All scouts have an interesting fate)). For intelligence officers, diplomats, journalists and those who combine these professions laughing
                      6. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 9 February 2021 16: 44
                        +7
                        Adzhubei (Khrushchev's son-in-law), who completed the task, had to go back to the airport with Kolosov. But at the last moment I changed my mind and went with another person. And Kolosov on the same day got into a car accident in his car - the technicians from the residency, having examined the wrecked Juliet, said that a special steel stud was inserted into the skillfully trimmed tire of the left front wheel, which, when the car picks up high speed, had to pierce camera.
                        In the explosion, Kolosov's tires were thrown out of the car, and he found himself on the highway with broken legs and numerous bruises. While in the hospital, the "journalist" learned about the sudden death of the Pope ...
                        In his place came - Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini, whom the Italians will call the American Pope. He led the CIA-funded Catholic Youth League.
                        But, agree Albert and the risk is Huge. The ability to influence the fate of the World is simply not given!
                      7. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 9 February 2021 16: 58
                        +14
                        Well, I would like to finish about Leonid Kolosov - the Legendary Soviet Scout with the following Facts. Car enthusiasts - that's who needs to be grateful for the pennies, deuces, triples and sixes you had from VAZ.
                        After the death of Nicolo Giantile (one of the godfathers of the Sicilian Mafia) Kolosov will receive a letter without a return address, which will be written "gift". The letter will contain information about a secret US base in Sicily. It was a posthumous gift from the Godfather.
                        Later, Kolosov helped the USSR to conclude a deal with the FIAT concern and obtain a loan from the concern for the construction of a plant in Togliatti. For this operation, Leonid Kolosov received a rifle and an extraordinary title as an award. At that time, the deal was considered the "deal of the century." Returning to the USSR, for many he remained an international journalist, was engaged in the training of young personnel in intelligence. He passed away at 81 on January 5, 2008 in Moscow.
                        Not a man but Flint ... eternal memory hi
                        Ps it would be nice to write an article about him ... Homeland should know Its Heroes!
                      8. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 17: 21
                        +3
                        Eh, was it hard to sign a contract with Alfo-Romeo? laughing
                      9. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 10 February 2021 09: 52
                        +6
                        Eh, was it hard to sign a contract with Alfo-Romeo?

                        All jokes, but, as far as I understand, there was a question of filling the Soviet market with massive inexpensive cars. drinks
                        Alexey-Okhotoved - many thanks for the story. Did not know! good
                      10. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 10 February 2021 09: 54
                        +3
                        Quote: Pan Kohanku
                        Eh, was it hard to sign a contract with Alfo-Romeo?

                        All jokes, but, as far as I understand, there was a question of filling the Soviet market with massive inexpensive cars. drinks

                        I agree )).
                      11. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 10 February 2021 10: 10
                        +4
                        I agree )).

                        Although Joseph Vissarionovich twice wanted to do this first. The first time - when he ordered to build the KIM plant, the second - when he brought Opel equipment there after the war. He also owns the phrase, do you remember, something like, "soon every Soviet person will be able to afford a car," or something similar. drinks
                      12. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 10 February 2021 14: 26
                        +2
                        Opel had to be finished. And the idea is old - Ford's, which Hitler took over by building the "People's Wagon" - Volkswagen.
                      13. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 10 February 2021 15: 24
                        +3
                        Opel had to be finished.

                        God works in mysterious ways. I read somewhere that AZLK had its own interesting developments in the 1970s, the ministries were ordered to do something similar to some kind of "Frenchman" for old idiots, and it turned out 2141.
                        having built the "People's Wagon" - Volkswagen

                        Albert, correct. if I'm wrong. EMNIP, "Beetle" was designed even before the war, but Hitler preferred to first build a "people's kübelwagen" for the Wehrmacht. And the "peaceful Beetles" began after the war. drinks
                      14. Phil77
                        Phil77 10 February 2021 16: 14
                        +5
                        Hi Nikolay, is it not by chance? When before the army he worked at UKER AZLK, I saw him in * model *. But he did not go into production. This is 1981.
                      15. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 10 February 2021 16: 32
                        +4
                        When I worked at UKER AZLK before the army, I saw it in * model *. But it did not go into production. This is 1981.

                        Hello, hello!
                        As far as I understand, this is AZLK's own development, "Series C", 70s. She was rear wheel drive. They were also told to tie and copy SIMCA-1308. The versions of how such a decision was made differ, but they really began to copy the SIM card. request
                    2. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 10 February 2021 17: 37
                      +1
                      As far as I remember, the beetles were built before the war for the correct citizens of Germany)))
                    3. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 11 February 2021 10: 10
                      +3
                      As far as I remember, the beetles were built before the war for the correct citizens of Germany)))

                      Prototypes, yes. And yes, it was declared as a "people's car". For the right burghers ...

                      But not a single serial was released before the war. On the chassis they began to churn out "kübelvagen" - in fact, the same "beetle", but in a different case. request

                      From the wiki:
                      The Second World War, which began on September 1, 1939, changed all plans. By this time, not a single civilian vehicle had been produced; instead, the re-equipment of the plant for the production of military products began. At first, planes were repaired there, and from 1940 they began to produce army all-terrain vehicles Kübelwagen. At the same time, the use of forced labor began at the factory, the first group of such slave workers were Polish women. Later, prisoners of war and concentration camps worked there - only about 20 people, by 000 they made up two-thirds of the company's workforce. On April 1944, 11, the US Army stopped military production at the factory and freed its slave labor.
      2. tech3030
        tech3030 10 February 2021 12: 57
        +4
        Yes, it would not be good, but certainly! Such people make history!
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 February 2021 17: 08
      +5
      An interesting life is always fraught with risk:
      If you are a businessman, the more money you earn, the more likely you are to face a variety of hostile competitors;
      If you are a party-goer, there is always a chance to get a tire iron in the head from a boyfriend or husband of a girl you may not remember;
      If you are a bandit, then you can run into from all sides - from the police and "comrades" in the shop, to the alleged terpily)).
      Well, External Intelligence at this level is lucky if you survive laughing
    3. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 10 February 2021 10: 52
      +7
      An interesting life is always fraught with risk:

      You will understand this picture:
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 10 February 2021 16: 39
      +3
      Of course - solely out of love for Argentine tango, Jewish prison romance and strong ropes)).
    5. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 10 February 2021 17: 19
      +3
      and strong ropes)).

      this - especially! good did the right thing that Eichmann was stolen. It is a pity that not everyone got it, who inherited the blood.
    6. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 10 February 2021 17: 29
      +3
      Quote: Pan Kohanku
      ... It is a pity that not everyone got it, who inherited the blood.

      Greetings Nikolay hi Here's on a nearby branch:
      SS Obersturmbannfuehrer Paul Zappa, SS man is accused of personal participation in the murder of 13,5 thousand civilians on the Crimean Peninsula. For this he was arrested in Germany, where he was sentenced to life imprisonment. Zapp was released ahead of schedule, in 1986, after which he lived for many more years - up to 94 years.
      The executioner deserved Only Death, unfortunately not finished!
    7. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 10 February 2021 17: 38
      +3
      The problem is that the Germans took it. In Latin America, they would bang
    8. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 10 February 2021 17: 40
      +3
      And in the USSR - they would shoot Scum! am
    9. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 10 February 2021 17: 43
      +3
      One hundred pounds - you have to burn them alive
    10. alsoclean
      alsoclean 10 February 2021 23: 13
      +1
      Quote: Hunter 2
      And in the USSR - they would shoot Scum!

      Actually, in the USSR, they hung scum.
      And only criminals were shot.
    11. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 11 February 2021 10: 02
      +3
      Actually, in the USSR, they hung scum.
      And only criminals were shot.

      Alexey, not always. hi If we take the processes that took place during the war and immediately after it, then yes - they were hanged. But if, after many years, they were found, like Tonka the machine-gunner or the defendants at the Krasnodar trial in 1963, they were already shot. That's where they go! negative
    12. alsoclean
      alsoclean 11 February 2021 16: 19
      +2
      In general, yes. And the trouble is that from the category of "scum" all of them (Tonka and others) were transferred to the category of criminals. This, if one may say so, "amnesty" in the ideological sense became a wake-up call to Soviet reality. After all, it turned out that the fascist monsters and scum were equated with criminals who, according to the Criminal Code of the USSR, also provided for the highest measure of social protection.
  2. Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 11 February 2021 09: 59
    +2
    The executioner deserved Only Death, unfortunately not finished!

    Yes. also passed, read. There was also a traitor - a former Soviet captain (from the Germans), who calmly settled in the United States after the war.
    Yesterday I read about the Krasnodar trial of the 1963 accomplices. The killers...
    Here are the links if there is interest.
    http://militera.lib.ru/prose/russian/ginsburg/index.html
    https://www.vkpress.ru/life/vtoroy-krasnodarskiy-protsess-nad-natsistami-kem-pritvoryalis-predateli-rodiny-/?id=122646
    https://www.vkpress.ru/life/vtoroy-krasnodarskiy-protsess-nad-natsistami-predateley-rodiny-ne-shchadili/?id=122737
  • Liam
    Liam 9 February 2021 14: 04
    +4
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Mafia - Trade Unions, the topic is generally interesting. Mafiosi attracted both employers to put pressure on trade unions and trade unions to put pressure on employers

    The mafia did not care much about the relationship between employers and workers. Their interest was in the pension funds of workers which were managed by trade unions. Through them they laundered money and made "legal" investments in the same casinos. Well, the electoral interest. Packages of votes for the necessary politicians in the elections
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 9 February 2021 14: 22
      +7
      On the whole, I agree, but control of the labor market (especially during the years of depression and other economic crises) also took place. The mafia maneuvered between the interests of employers (interested in the stable operation of enterprises and maximizing profits) and the interests of wage workers (also interested in stable work and obtaining maximum social benefits), this is also one of the reasons for the control of trade unions. As they say: A tender calf sucks two queens.
      1. Liam
        Liam 9 February 2021 14: 30
        +2
        Do not endow the mafia with an outlook that they do not have. This is a criminal organization and not a charitable foundation and not a political party. Composed mainly of very illiterate people. Their motivation and goal are very narrow-profit and they do not care about the problems of society. Especially since economic crises for them - the golden period. The more economic problems ordinary people, companies and so on, the faster and easier they get into the networks of criminal organizations
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 9 February 2021 14: 39
          +7
          Well then, explain the fact that at certain moments the Mafia supported the strikes organized by the trade unions (preventing the appearance of strikebreakers), and at others - strongly opposed (up to the elimination of the trade union leaders) their holding ??? In my opinion, everything is very clear, making a profit from any troubled situation, respectively, and changing "allies" according to the situation.
          1. Liam
            Liam 9 February 2021 15: 02
            +2
            These are general words. Give specific moments of support or non-support and we will discuss. But I am 100% sure that in each such case the mafia had its own particular selfish interest in acting this way, and not at all concern for the public good. For example, in the film The Godfather, dedicated to the many hours of saga mafia You will never hear the word Mafia. It was an informal condition for the mafia not to create problems on the set in the form of the same strikes, etc.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 9 February 2021 15: 16
              +6
              Yes, it is clear that there were no altruists in the organized crime groups laughing
  • Catfish
    Catfish 10 February 2021 09: 13
    +4
    Aleksey, we rode on the Tatra and cleaned both of us from there, her too. laughing
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 10 February 2021 11: 14
      +4
      Konstantin, I am glad - that in History and Armaments Everything is quiet and calm! Violent, piled-ups, Enemies of the Communists, Enemies of the enemies of the Communists - they practically do not look to Us. wink
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 10 February 2021 11: 16
        +4
        It happens, sometimes the door is mistaken. I’ll probably get drunk. laughing
      2. Phil77
        Phil77 10 February 2021 16: 16
        +3
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Everything is quiet and calm!

        Golden words! good Totally agree!
      3. Korsar4
        Korsar4 10 February 2021 20: 38
        +4
        And this is the mutual influence of topics and the community.
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 10 February 2021 20: 53
          +3
          Sergey, to the point hi I would like to add more EDUCATION! We are so different, with so different views and knowledge that it does not prevent us from behaving correctly without turning the branch into a "holivar"!
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 10 February 2021 20: 58
            +4
            You can turn it, but:

            1.It's important to keep it interesting.
            2. Correctness is essential. The classic rule is already: speak on the Internet, as you can tell to your face.
            3. Dialogue is harmonious when there is something to say and there is something to listen to.
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 10 February 2021 21: 01
              +3
              Sergey, I am glad that we Hear each other! You can, of course, push slogans, like a certain part of the members of the forum ... only this is a counterproductive activity, dialogue will not work, and this is the most valuable thing on Our branches!
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 10 February 2021 21: 05
                +3
                And the branch is alive with people.
                "Like to like." Although any site has its own dynamics.
                But this is an example that the world is small.
                Although, it's funny that the professions are completely different. Maybe this is additional facets of communication.
                1. Hunter 2
                  Hunter 2 10 February 2021 21: 17
                  +3
                  Quote: Korsar4

                  But this is an example that the world is small.
                  Although, it's funny that the professions are completely different. Maybe this is additional facets of communication.

                  So is it Great good Comments on Our threads are as interesting to read as the Articles themselves! Constantly someone gives out something new that others did not know! If All were the same ... it would be possible to create only a Chorus from Us, and that is Poor in one key!
  • Alien From
    Alien From 9 February 2021 15: 06
    +5
    I join you! Gorgeous article! Many thanks to the author for the work! hi
  • axxmanm
    axxmanm 9 February 2021 06: 01
    +7
    All organized criminal groups are controlled by special services (and not always local ones).
    To disguise this banal fact, they invent myths and legends for their pets in order to give them a radiant halo of mystery and power, which simpletons, fools and restless youth inevitably peck at.
    1. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 9 February 2021 11: 33
      +3
      Quote: axxmanm
      All organized criminal groups are controlled by special services (and not always local ones).

      Not all and not always the special services, and one can speak of "control" itself only with great reservations.
      Organized crime always has a connection with state structures (not necessarily law enforcement or security forces), but the specifics of these connections can be different - from parity mutually beneficial cooperation to complete control of the government as a crime, and vice versa.
      1. VLR
        9 February 2021 13: 18
        +4
        Cooperation of state structures with organized crime is a very "slippery" path. And, it is not known who gets the most benefits. Here, for example, Azef - he has the stigma of a sexot and a provocateur, but his revolutionary record - my God! This is one of the most effective terrorist commanders. When he met Burtsev, who exposed him, he said:
        "If you, Vladimir Lvovich, had not exposed me then, I would have killed the tsar."
        And who used whom? I personally think that it was Azev who received the main benefit from "cooperation". And in his heart he laughed at the narrow-minded "curators". So the "hunter for provocateurs" Burtsev in this case played on the side of the tsarist regime.
        Another example: the KGB infiltrated a huge number of its agents into nationalist and dissident organizations. Who, after the collapse of the USSR, "forgot" about their KGB past and became the most real anti-Soviet and Russophobes. For example, Lithuanian President Dalia Grybauskaite is suspected of working for the KGB.

        1. Trilobite Master
          Trilobite Master 9 February 2021 14: 44
          +4
          Operational games in general, and intelligence work in particular, are basically a system of compromises, in this process each side pursues its own interests and takes into account the interests of the opposite side. You can list dozens, if not hundreds, or even thousands of cases when, for example, representatives of criminal communities leaked their colleagues to law enforcement agencies in order to take the place of those who dropped out in the criminal business, and the opera deliberately turned a blind eye to some crimes or even provoked their commission.
          I recalled one conversation, a long time ago. I talked with an opera from RUBOP, discussed the details of one event, I asked if there could be a leak. He replied: "This team has no people in our department. The sixth (third, fifth - it doesn't matter) department works with them." That is, in the unit for combating organized crime, in fact, at the official level, different departments had contacts with different criminal groups and who worked for whom is another question. The exchange of information between the agent and the curator is always, absolutely always, two-way. The winner is the one who correctly identifies the goals of the rest of the participants in the game and is able to keep their own in secret.
          No state laws or criminal "concepts" with all their codes of honor and other husks in such games do not matter and all this is beneficial if the opera does not begin to confuse official interests with personal ones. Well, even such a bridle does not exist for criminals.
          And in general, all these "concepts" exist solely to justify the right of the strong, nothing more. The fable "The Wolf and the Lamb" in its purest form.
          In the 90s there was such a case, I remembered.
          Thugs broke into one of the hucksters and, posing as representatives of an authoritative group, sprang a little, so, in moderation, demanded tribute. It turned out, however, that they had nothing to do with this group, and the person on whose behalf they spoke was not in the know. Jamb? Iron jamb. The reason for a specific presentation in all terms. To the question of the authority on whose behalf the guys spoke, like, do you want to ask them, he replied approximately like this: "Do you want to ask them? Ask, no one will stand up for them, there is a jamb behind them. You cannot ask yourself - pay me, I’ll ask. If you don’t want to pay, sit there and bear with me, wait for the next hit. " To the question "what about concepts, they, like, used your name without your knowledge," he said: "Concepts are for bulls. For serious people, only money and reputation matter. I won't get anything from them, but they give me a reputation. rather, they promoted me, choosing me as an authority. So decide your questions yourself. "
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 10 February 2021 09: 56
            -2
            Quote: Trilobite Master
            "Concepts for bulls.

            Not so little .. concepts are for equals.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 9 February 2021 06: 10
    +6
    The article is good, but the questions remain: Why did America become the target of the mafia? Is it true that in the beginning the Italian mafia fought against the Jewish in America? Why didn't the border countries with Italy become so mafia-like? Each criminal organization tries to put on an aura of romanticism and nobility, thanks to the cinema.
    1. VLR
      9 February 2021 07: 56
      +14
      The fact that Italians and Jews competed at the beginning of the century is true. For example, Lucky Luciano (Sicilian) and Meyer Lansky (Jew, "Belarusian" by birth) were in hostile teenage street gangs - and then became bosom friends and partners. And in the "Corporation of Murders" - this is the power structure of Cosa Nostra, created in many ways by the efforts of Luciano, very many were Jews. We will talk more about this in the following articles. By the way, the Black Hands fought not only with Jewish gangsters, but with other ethnic gangs too. In Chicago, for example, with the Irish.
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 9 February 2021 08: 14
        +10
        Quote: VlR
        Luciano

        Valery! Thank you so much for the article. Interesting! I have read so far diagonally, work, alas! Thanks, and see you tonight!
        1. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 10: 13
          +7
          Valery! Thank you so much for the article. Interesting! I have read so far diagonally, work, alas! Thanks, and see you tonight!

          Sergey, hello! Glad to see finally!
          Luciano was scolded for his connection with the Jewish mafia. But they had quite a working tandem. Albert and I usually mention the main outrageous - Louis "Lepke" the Accountant. It's funny that he was almost the only high-ranking American mobster to be executed in an electric bullet. laughing
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 9 February 2021 10: 24
            +7
            Quote: Pan Kohanku
            Albert and I usually mention the main outrageous - Louis "Lepke" the Accountant. It's funny that he was almost the only high-ranking American mobster to be executed in an electric bullet. laughing

            Even that little bitch
            In the theatre:
            - Tell me, and Tatiana the Jew?
            - Russian.
            - And Olga?
            - Her sister, also Russian!
            - And Onegin?
            - Russian.
            - And Lensky?
            - Jew, Jew ... leave already ..
            - You will see - they will kill him fellow
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 10: 38
              +6
              Even that little bitch

              Created a "new direction in business". No.
            2. Korsar4
              Korsar4 10 February 2021 21: 22
              +4
              An example of using inside information.
          2. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 9 February 2021 10: 24
            +7
            A great honor, however! Hoover himself was not too lazy to escort him.
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 10: 40
              +8
              Hoover himself was not too lazy to escort him.

              The FBI appeared on the initiative of the grandson of Napoleon's brother Bonaparte. But it was Hoover who made this structure important in the law enforcement system. By the way, he also pushed "Tommy Gun" into the FBI's arsenal. Kept in step with the times! soldier
          3. Phil77
            Phil77 9 February 2021 19: 30
            +3
            Quote: Pane Kohanku
            Glad to see finally!

            Hi Nikolay! I still * broke *! What happened to the * gadget * I don't know! belay But now he is plowing! In the evening! good
      2. Phil77
        Phil77 9 February 2021 08: 18
        +10
        Quote: VlR
        by Jewish gangsters

        Frankie Costello.
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 08: 22
        +10
        Quote: VlR
        The fact that Italians and Jews competed at the beginning of the century is true. For example, Lucky Luciano (Sicilian) and Meyer Lansky (Jew, "Belarusian" by birth) were in hostile teenage street gangs - and then became bosom friends and partners. And in the "Corporation of Murders" - this is the power structure of Cosa Nostra, created in many ways by the efforts of Luciano, very many were Jews. We will talk more about this in the following articles. By the way, the Black Hands fought not only with Jewish gangsters, but with other ethnic gangs too. In Chicago, for example, with the Irish.

        In Chicago, Al Capone defeated the Jews. That moment from "There are only girls in Jazz", where mafiosi disguised as policemen shoot gangsters is based on real events - the Italians thus shot Jewish competitors.
        1. Liam
          Liam 9 February 2021 09: 48
          +7
          Quote: Krasnodar
          mafiosi disguised as policemen shoot gangsters based on real events - the Italians thus shot Jewish competitors.

          )))
          In reality, everything was the other way around. As in that joke ... Jews were not killed, but Jews were killed. And not in Chicago but in New York.
          September 10, 1931 4 Jewish killers disguised as tax police with the help of the Sicilian mafia Gaetano Lucchese entered the office of the godfather of the American mafia Maranzano and killed him. The customers were Luciano and Lanski. Reason - Maranzano tried to kill Luciano and Vito Vincent " Mad Dog "Coll
          hi
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 9 February 2021 09: 53
            +7
            Shalom, shalom! hi
            Both cases took place - I also read about what you described laughing
            1. VLR
              9 February 2021 09: 58
              +9
              Quite right, but the Chicago shooting is better known. It will be discussed in the article about Al Capone.
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 12: 42
                +5
                He will be discussed in the article on Al Capone.

                "With a kind word and a pistol, you will achieve much more than just a kind word." laughing Interestingly, the man who planted him - Dewey - then ran for president. Will it be about that too? An unusual example of adherence to principles - went to the end, as they say. drinks
                1. VLR
                  9 February 2021 12: 45
                  +7
                  There will be - about Capone, and about Dewey. Dewey's name will pop up from time to time in various articles.
                  1. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 12: 51
                    +5
                    There will be - about Capone, and about Dewey. Dewey's name will pop up from time to time in various articles.

                    Then we wait, sir!
                    Last week I remembered that at the beginning of the 2000s I was reading "Bandits of the West" by Razzakov. And even found this book on the Internet (though for some reason without chapters about Dillinger and Bonnie with Clyde). I can't take every phrase of Fyodor Ibatovich (that's the name of Razzakov - if all of a sudden the highly respected moderators have doubts about my veracity, you can check it in a search engine) take on faith, but he writes beautifully. They say there are many claims to him as a historian. Very prolific! Although, as far as I understand, he writes more about cinema and show business.
            2. Liam
              Liam 9 February 2021 14: 43
              +2
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Shalom, shalom! hi
              Both cases took place - I also read about what you described laughing

              Were those killed in Chicago on Valentine's Day Jewish? Or Irish?)
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 9 February 2021 15: 09
                +4
                I don't remember on what day they were killed, but Italians working under the police killed the Jews))
                1. Liam
                  Liam 9 February 2021 15: 10
                  +2
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  I don't remember on what day they were killed, but Italians working under the police killed the Jews))

                  )))
                  North side gang

                  Boss Dean O'Banion
                  Hymie weiss
                  Vincent drucci
                  George moran
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 9 February 2021 15: 13
                    +4
                    Haimi Weiss - Jew
                    The rest did not have the right to repatriate to Israel laughing
        2. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 10: 09
          +6
          In Chicago, Al Capone defeated the Jews.

          EMNIP, he defeated the Irish there? were they his main opponents at first?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 9 February 2021 10: 25
            +6
            Quote: Pan Kohanku
            In Chicago, Al Capone defeated the Jews.

            EMNIP, he defeated the Irish there? were they his main opponents at first?

            Then the Jews
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 10: 42
              +7
              Then the Jews

              Competition is such competition! request
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 9 February 2021 10: 46
                +5
                Jews also worked for him - Moses Annenberg, for example.
                1. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 10: 49
                  +5
                  Jews worked for him too

                  Criminal International. If you remember, there is a movie called "The Fist" with a young Stallone, which shows the relationship between the mafia and the trade union movement in the 40s.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 9 February 2021 15: 09
                    +3
                    Quote: Pan Kohanku
                    Jews worked for him too

                    Criminal International. If you remember, there is a movie called "The Fist" with a young Stallone, which shows the relationship between the mafia and the trade union movement in the 40s.

                    Didn't look to be honest
                    1. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 15: 14
                      +4
                      Didn't look to be honest

                      "Fist", 1978. Not very typical for Stallone, the role of a trade unionist. yes
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 15: 18
                        +4
                        Quote: Pan Kohanku
                        Didn't look to be honest

                        "Fist", 1978. Not very typical for Stallone, the role of a trade unionist. yes

                        He can be mistaken for an Irishman, an Italian or a Jew. laughing
                      2. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 15: 38
                        +5
                        He can be mistaken for an Irishman, an Italian or a Jew.

                        You know there were no Irish or Italians? stop Speak correctly, don't cut my eyes, please: "Italo-Rus" and "Slavic-Irish"! laughing Proven by you-know-who and by academician Chizhpyzhikov personally. fellow
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 15: 39
                        +4
                        I adhere to the theory of Svyatorossi from Asgard repeat
                      4. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 15: 42
                        +4
                        I adhere to the theory of Svyatorossi from Asgard

                        I have not heard, but, probably, the most fascinating theory, just invented under other substances. lol "A word to the Bachelor of Science!" (B.B. Grebenshchikov). fellow
                        But leave the Anglo-Saxons - you need to appoint someone to the role of the enemy! request
                      5. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 15: 48
                        +3
                        Read the Slavic Vedas - there are many interesting things there. There are also about the Anglo-Saxons and about the three Moons, which, it turns out, were earlier on Earth laughing
                      6. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 15: 54
                        +5
                        Read the Slavic Vedas - there are many interesting things there.

                        Will you also advise "Veles's book"? what I run the risk of getting carried away and becoming a preacher - with a sect, taxes and a harem. wassat and your own island ... winked yes, perhaps, the island must be included in the outline of sermons by all means! repeat
                      7. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 15: 59
                        +3
                        The main thing is not Solovetsky laughing
                      8. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 16: 01
                        +4
                        The main thing is not Solovetsky

                        Yes, you're right - you have to take it in Latin America, where everyone is in white pants. laughing
                        Read the Slavic Vedas - there are many interesting things there.

                        Did you mean this kondratia-colovratia? wassat and what, a big flock, sir? repeat Or "parishioners scattered to the cities, looking for treasures"? laughing
                        He only has to play without makeup. laughing
                      9. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 17: 29
                        +4
                        Looks like one familiar thug - an Iraqi Jew laughing
                      10. andrew42
                        andrew42 10 February 2021 14: 52
                        +2
                        This is Alexander Khinevich, if I'm not mistaken.

                        "... Based on the foregoing and guided by 307-309 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation, the magistrate
                        SENTENED:
                        To recognize Khinevich Alexander Yuryevich guilty of committing a crime under Art. 282.2 h. 1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and sentenced him to imprisonment for a term of 1 (one) year 6 (six) months.
                        Based on Art. 73 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, the punishment assigned to Alexander Yuryevich Khinevich shall be considered conditional with a probationary period of 2 (two) years.
                        To oblige the convicted person not to change his place of residence without notifying the body that supervises the execution of the sentence, to appear in a timely manner for control marks at the specified body. The measure of procedural compulsion in the form of a recognizance not to leave A. Yu. Khinevich should be left unchanged until the sentence comes into legal force.
                        Material evidence - two videotapes, two DVD discs, an SD disc with the materials of operational-search measures to be stored in the criminal case.
                        Material evidence - videotapes, books, CD disks, flags, photographs, registered letters, confiscated from A. Yu. Khinevich, shall be transferred to Alexander Yuryevich Khinevich.
                        The verdict can be appealed on appeal to the Central District Court of Omsk through the magistrate within 10 days from the date of announcement.

                        Justice of the Peace V. A. Matytsin "
                      11. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 10 February 2021 15: 26
                        +2
                        This is Alexander Khinevich, if I'm not mistaken.

                        Yes exactly. I must admit that I found out about its existence only yesterday (see the discussion with Krasnodar), and having glanced at Wikipedia, I realized how boring I live ... How can people not go crazy .. laughing
                      12. andrew42
                        andrew42 10 February 2021 15: 54
                        0
                        In vain my post was added. I was personally acquainted with this person. Although nodding :) I did not notice anything bad except messianic altruism.
                      13. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 10 February 2021 16: 23
                        +2
                        In vain my post was added.

                        You didn't give me a minus either. wink And a non-malignant person can be a plus. yes
                        I was personally acquainted with this person. Although nodding :) I did not notice anything bad except messianic altruism.

                        Everyone chooses for himself whom to communicate with and what to believe. Let's just say, after reading about his teachings, but not getting to know him closely .. I'm not carried away! hi
                      14. andrew42
                        andrew42 10 February 2021 16: 27
                        0
                        What to believe is not my strong point. I prefer the junction of technical science with humanitarian disciplines. Knowledge is power! But knowledge that does not work for the good of Man is rubbish.
                      15. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 10 February 2021 16: 34
                        +1
                        Knowledge is power!

                        I totally agree! drinks
            2. Fat
              Fat 12 February 2021 16: 48
              +1
              Bro! (forgive me, Nikolay, for the familiarity) I, to put it mildly, do not accept Khinevich. Odious as a Fuhrer and a sweet voice like Goebel. Oh, how omniscient, oh how ... knowing ... what preparation, what class of scam !. Have you ever seen a Slavic calendar of 10 (!) Months? (this is When Midgard - the earth had three moons)
              Kapets! The "lord of the rings" is out ... Middle-earth is in danger, the dunadans (svyatoruses) are getting drunk and do not see the threat from Mordor (somewhere in the east) ...
              It tears logic and common sense into molecules ... Damn it!
              And there are no sources and cannot be! People follow the dream of the "Great Past" ... which was not, but how wonderful it was recourse
              But Khinevich (like Powell in his pocket, a glass vial of deadly poison in the face of an international audience wassat ) a lot of "killer" patriotic arguments.
  • Catfish
    Catfish 9 February 2021 10: 13
    +8
    Hi Albert. hi
    No matter how much I poked around, I still did not find frames of the moment you are writing about, everywhere the emphasis is mainly on MM's boobs.
    And here is the only scene with a weapon, but it's in the garage.
    1. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 10: 19
      +7
      And here is the only scene with a weapon, but it's in the garage.

      Most likely, Albert remembered the movie "The Massacre on Valentine's Day", 1967.
      "False cops" with cutoffs.

      The scene from the garage "There are only girls in jazz" is a reference to this event. Even without a police uniform.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 10: 26
        +6
        Quote: Pan Kohanku
        And here is the only scene with a weapon, but it's in the garage.

        Most likely, Albert remembered the movie "The Massacre on Valentine's Day", 1967.
        "False cops" with cutoffs.

        The scene from the garage "There are only girls in jazz" is a reference to this event. Even without a police uniform.

        Not at all - only girls in Jazz
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 February 2021 10: 26
      +6
      It is this scene, Constantine hi Greetings! drinks
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 9 February 2021 11: 06
        +8
        I found some funny photos of the police of that time, the weapons are quite different, but there are no cutoffs. smile

        1. bubalik
          bubalik 9 February 2021 11: 15
          +8
          ,,, which just was not.

          1. Catfish
            Catfish 9 February 2021 11: 34
            +6
            Yes, and without the designs of Comrade Browning, performed by Mr. Colt, they can nowhere.
        2. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 11: 22
          +5
          the weapons are quite variegated, but the cutoffs are mute.

          Colt's machine gun is serious!
          Bonnie and Clyde are posing with an arsenal.

          One of those who hit the sweet couple is Texas ranger Frank Haymer.

          The participants in the ambush were promised $ 26, but paid only $ 200 each. True, they were allowed to take the bandits' belongings. Heimer got a pretty decent arsenal of their weapons. Later, the legendary ranger confessed to reporters that it was not in his rules to shoot a woman and under other circumstances he would feel bad if he saw a woman's perforated body in a car. But the fact that Bonnie took part in nine murders and fired bullets at the traffic cop at point-blank range saves him from regret. "If it were not for us, they would have us," Heimer explained.
          Source: https://sobesednik.ru/obshchestvo/20191126-krutoj-hejmer
          © Sobesednik.ru
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 9 February 2021 11: 31
            +7
            And here is the original paddy wagon of that time ... with a "barn" lock. laughing
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 11: 33
              +7
              And here is the original paddy wagon of that time ... with a "barn" lock.

              And it's not hot, and the country knows its heroes! laughing
            2. bubalik
              bubalik 9 February 2021 12: 02
              +9
              ,, inspection, first aid kit! laughing
        3. bubalik
          bubalik 9 February 2021 11: 56
          +8
          but there are no cutoffs

          ,, how do you like this "tool".
          1. VLR
            9 February 2021 13: 06
            +9
            This photo of a young mobster is one of the illustrations in the following article. smile
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 13: 58
              +8
              This photo of a young mobster is one of the illustrations in the following article.

              Please note that in this photo, that in the photo with the ostrich laid out by Sergey above - what huge hats! I mean, they're really "super-deep". It was an interesting fashion then!
            2. bubalik
              bubalik 9 February 2021 15: 48
              +5
              illustrations next article
              ,,, that's how I could know crying ruined everything for you. recourse
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 16: 09
                +5
                ruined everything for you.

                False start, I demand Sergey - a penalty glass! drinks
            3. Phil77
              Phil77 9 February 2021 19: 25
              +5
              Quote: VlR
              next article

              Valery, will John Torrio, one of the founders of the * Chicago * group, appear in your articles?

              Indeed, in the 20s, it was he who was behind the creation of the criminal empire.
              1. VLR
                9 February 2021 20: 05
                +5
                Yes, of course, in the next article. It was he who invited Al Capone to Chicago and then recommended him to his place.
          2. Catfish
            Catfish 9 February 2021 21: 49
            +3
            "Mozart plays an old violin,
            Mozart plays, and the violin sings ... "(c)
  • Phil77
    Phil77 9 February 2021 10: 56
    +7
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Italians

    Hi Albert!
    Here I would venture to recommend it for reading. Interesting, informative, well ... entertaining. wink
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 February 2021 11: 22
      +4
      Thank you, I'll read it at your leisure))
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 9 February 2021 09: 35
    0
    You can just envy how interesting your article turned out to be! In detail, with good illustrations. I read it with great interest! Thanks.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 9 February 2021 08: 15
    +9
    Is it true that in the beginning the Italian mafia fought the Jewish one in America?
    True, but only at the very beginning of its formation, at the level of street youth gangs.
    1. depressant
      depressant 9 February 2021 09: 54
      +6
      Titanic article! The main thing is that from the point of view of the past it allows you to evaluate the present)))
      Good morning to everyone from Santa Claus from the Moscow region! wassat )))
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 9 February 2021 10: 11
        +8
        Our interest in such topics is due to direct analogies from our recent past.
        1. depressant
          depressant 9 February 2021 14: 22
          +4
          Let the recent, but the past?)))
          Our interest in such topics is shifting towards someone else's past, and we seem to be passing an exam on the knowledge of the history and characteristics of the Sicilian mafia, as well as the reasons for its establishment in the United States. We pull tickets and hand over diligently. The reason is probably purely psychological. So much was said at one time about the "Tambov", "Orekhovskaya", "Podolsk", others, that it makes you sick from the mere memory of them, and so many films were shot ... And only one truthful one - "Zhmurki" by Balabanov. Because it has a true ending. Due to the ability to mutate, keep up with the times, the mafia is immortal.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 9 February 2021 22: 39
            +3
            Quote: depressant
            And only one truthful one - "Zhmurki" Balabanov. Because it has a true ending.

            Everywhere there are films about the mafia.
            1. depressant
              depressant 9 February 2021 22: 58
              +4
              Colleague, do you remember the final "Zhmurok"? )))
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 9 February 2021 23: 05
                +3
                Quote: depressant
                remember the final "Zhmurok"?

                I remember, alas.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 9 February 2021 23: 37
                  +6
                  Here I am about the same. And ... alas! Irresistible, hidden, creeping. From the category "Do you see it? No? And it is everywhere, therefore you do not see it."
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 10 February 2021 09: 50
            +3
            Quote: depressant
            So much was said at one time about the "Tambov", "Orekhovsk", "Podolsk"

            Lyudmila Yakovlevna hi You are right with the ending of the film noticed .. who survived, he now runs the country.
            Due to the ability to mutate, keep up with the times, the mafia is immortal

            A person is social and strives to be in society. When someone offers justice and money, there will always be supporters. Another question is that modern ones have changed so much that only money remains .. which means that the process of "evolution" continues ... and new types of communities will appear.
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 11 February 2021 00: 57
        0
        Quote: depressant
        Titanic article! The main thing is that from the point of view of the past it allows you to evaluate the present)))
        Good morning to everyone from Santa Claus from the Moscow region! wassat )))

        hi hi And good morning to you, Lyudmila Yakovlevna love smile
        1. depressant
          depressant 11 February 2021 01: 22
          +1
          Dima, dear, hello and ... good night!
          Surprisingly, only now I received a link to your comment - on the bell. And after all, I went to the forums all day, read the battles, and the bell was silent)))
          Are you sure you haven't confused the time of day?
          I read how Lexus, Sylvester and the generals bravely fought with NEOZ, how they moved from one topic to another, were mortally wounded, but stood firm and survived - this is an epic saga! I saw you there too)))
          Oh, Lord! ... Considered! Is the hour of the night this morning? lol ))) I turn off the phone - my eyes are watering)))
          Till tomorrow!
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 February 2021 09: 56
      +7
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      Is it true that in the beginning the Italian mafia fought the Jewish one in America?
      True, but only at the very beginning of its formation, at the level of street youth gangs.

      Greetings Anton! hi Not only. During Prohibition in Chicago there was a massacre between Jews and Italians, the latter won. And in New York they united against the Irish.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 9 February 2021 10: 02
        +6
        Hi Albert!
        And a couple of weeks ago I suggested that you write an article about Jewish organized crime groups in America, especially since we exchanged materials on this topic.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 9 February 2021 10: 04
          +4
          Yes, I now need to write articles about SGR on dietary supplements and telemedicine in Germany - I want to eat laughing
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 9 February 2021 10: 06
            +6
            "How scary to live!" (FROM) laughing
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 9 February 2021 10: 25
              +5
              "How scary to live!"

              You wanted to say, "How boring we live"? wink drinks
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 9 February 2021 10: 27
                +5
                It was not I who said this, but R. Litvinova.
              2. VLR
                9 February 2021 10: 35
                +11
                “We were going there, they were chasing after them. From there they go, they are being chased. What an interesting life for people! "
                (quote from Ph. "Don't be afraid, I'm with you!")
    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 11 February 2021 00: 54
      0
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      Is it true that in the beginning the Italian mafia fought the Jewish one in America?
      True, but only at the very beginning of its formation, at the level of street youth gangs.

      there was a film on cable in the 90s, Jewish boys with sows to America, one of them becomes such a mafia gradually ....... gangs ...
      Somehow the Sopranos came to mind ... I should look again ... oh, it's not easy, for a very long time ...
  • Proton
    Proton 9 February 2021 06: 40
    +9
    The article is a huge plus!
    Nice to read, thanks to the author!
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 9 February 2021 06: 55
    +8
    Chiccio suggested that Mussolini give up protection, saying that next to him nothing threatens the dictator. After an arrogant refusal, he forbade the townspeople to attend the fascist rally at which Duce spoke. Insulted Mussolini issued a decree to completely ban the mafia,
    The reason for the prohibition of the mafia was, of course, something else: the mafia, which had grown stronger after WWI, strengthened by veterans, was already threatening and undermining, replacing the state power in Sicily.

    To restore state power (that is, his power, authority and influence), he began the fight against the mafia.

    Mussolini::
    State power must be unconditionally, I repeat - unconditionally restored in Sicily.
    1. depressant
      depressant 9 February 2021 11: 46
      +4
      Ciccio Cuccia - people knew how to choose names and give them such their surnames that you do not want, but it becomes fun, although the story is disgusting.
      My village has also experienced mafia wars. According to legend, two Armenian family clans fought among themselves in the early 10s for the right to produce and supply baked goods to nearby shops. Representatives of one of the clans stole and then killed the daughter of the leader of the competitors, law enforcement officers did not find the killers. And then the victims turned to the mafia of a higher level, I don’t know, to which one - ethnic or international mafia. The mafiosi, having received a good bribe and a promise to unfasten regularly, lightly found and punished the killers so that since then there has been no word about them. Hardworking Armenian bakers thrive and, under the auspices of the mafia, have built a spare parts store, a gas station and a huge house there. And even an adjoining piece of land of hefty size was taken and fenced off. And it is difficult to say what kind of mafia is this "high level" and in general - whether it is a mafia or something else. But the people confidently say - "mafia".
  • Catfish
    Catfish 9 February 2021 07: 03
    +12
    How much I like Valery's articles, always detailed, with a lot of interesting details and previously unseen photographs. And about the Mafia you can tell many more interesting things, how many books have been written about it and not only documentaries, how many films have been shot, there is even a series of computer games called "Mafia".
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 9 February 2021 07: 09
      +8
      ..... you can tell more ...
      bully bully I would very much like this to happen and Valery would continue this topic
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 9 February 2021 19: 59
        +2
        I join. There is never too much interesting material
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 9 February 2021 08: 21
    +5
    Meyer Lansky, "Mafia accountant"
    Lansky was not a "mafia accountant". The biography of this person can serve as material for a separate article.
    Thank you, Valery!
    1. VLR
      9 February 2021 08: 43
      +10
      Lansky was a "mafia accountant" - and what kind. But, he is often confused with another "Accountant" - Luis Lepke. The difference: Lansky has an "accountant" - an unofficial "title", a hint that he "controls financial flows" and without his "signature" "money will not go", while Lepke has "Accountant" - an "official nickname".
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 9 February 2021 08: 55
        +5
        Valery, with all due respect!
        On the face of the merger of interests of criminal groups, but no more. Simply, Lansky came up with more sophisticated "business" schemes and knew how to work for the future.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 9 February 2021 10: 50
        +6
        Quote: VlR
        Lansky was a "mafia accountant" - and what kind. But, he is often confused with another "Accountant" - Luis Lepke. The difference: Lansky has an "accountant" - an unofficial "title", a hint that he "controls financial flows" and without his "signature" "money will not go", while Lepke has "Accountant" - an "official nickname".

        If in Russian, then Lansky is a priest.
  • Liam
    Liam 9 February 2021 09: 27
    +4
    Mafia is often called Cosa Nostra ("Our Business"), but this name appeared in the USA


    Cosa Nostra is the original Sicilian name for the mafia
    1. VLR
      9 February 2021 09: 41
      +9
      The original name of the Sicilian Mafia: Societa d'onore - "Honor Society"
      1. Liam
        Liam 9 February 2021 10: 05
        +3
        You shouldn't argue. The mafia had many names. Cosa Nostra was one of them and that was how the Sicilians in Sicily called it. The Americans just used the traditional name.
        1. VLR
          9 February 2021 10: 27
          +6
          This is a common but incorrect opinion. The name "Cosa Nostra" appeared in the USA and not earlier than 1929. Before that, there were Honor Societies in Sicily and Black Hands in America. Moreover, Cosa Nostra is no longer quite a mafia, because its members can be non-Cilians and even non-Italians. This is her weakness - Omerta's law does not work. The boss of the Bonanno mafia clan, Joseph, wrote about this in his autobiographical book "A Man of Honor":
          "They (modern-day US mafiosi) allow non-Sicilians to become full family members, they do not respect elders. Slowly but steadily, our traditions have become nothing, the ideals to which we have given our lives are hopelessly perverted."
          "What we were before no longer exists."
          We will talk about this in more detail in other articles.
          1. Liam
            Liam 9 February 2021 11: 13
            +4
            You operate mainly with cinematic folk style and sources. Mafia is a criminal organization that killed thousands of people. Its history, structure, name, mode of operandi-object of hundreds of criminal trials and real data about it must be taken from there and not from fiction and films. Sicilian mafia You can learn from the interrogation protocols of the most famous pentito "boss of two continents" Tommaso Buscetta and the testimony given by him and others to Judge Falcone and then on the Palermo maxiprocesso in the 80s that initiated the defeat of the Sicilian mafia
            1. VLR
              9 February 2021 11: 30
              +4
              The Sicilian mafia was called "Societa d'onore", the first gangs founded by the Sicilians in the United States - La Mano Nera (with one exception, about which - in the next article). After the "mafia conference" in Atlantic City in May 1929, the previously unknown name "Cosa Nostra" appeared. These are dry facts. The rest is fantasy.
              1. Liam
                Liam 9 February 2021 12: 18
                +4
                I understand that I am interfering with your author's plan)
                I'll try simpler. You are committing the well-known logical mistake "after does not mean afterwards" on the contrary.
                The fact that the phrase Cosa Nostra became known to the general public at first in America does not at all mean that it was "born" there. It's just that American mafiosi, unlike their ancestors, were distinguished by excessive talkativeness. Let me remind you that when Al Pacino and Brando received their Oscars for the Godfather, at home Mafia in Sicily in the public field, the existence of such an organization was denied in principle. The Sicilians still observed a real omerta. And their American gatherings were already heroes of films, novels, and the bosses took part in the 50s in the Senate hearings. Therefore, I say that your sources of knowledge are fiction. I can throw off links to the protocols and videos of interrogations of real mafiosi, but a non-native speaker will not understand much. For example, he will not understand the difference between the concept of Onorata Societa (which was really used by mafiosi) and Societa d 'onore (which never existed as a term and is just poor translation of fiction from Italian into English, from English into Russian, and from Russian about in Italian)
          2. vladcub
            vladcub 9 February 2021 19: 55
            +3
            "Clean Hands in America" ​​is a kind of humor. Their hands are so clean that ... No soap is enough to wash
  • Trilobite Master
    Trilobite Master 9 February 2021 12: 15
    +10
    I will join colleagues who liked the article.
    However, I would like to note that the author still could not (or did not consider it necessary) to completely move away from the romantic flair, which we usually endow various criminal communities with.
    All readers of materials on organized crime should always remember that, despite any attempts to give the heroes of these materials a certain nobility and honor, etc., in fact, they are unprincipled self-seekers of varying degrees of influence - nothing more.
    Neither nobility, nor honor, nor any other considerations play an essential role when it comes to benefits. No matter how they are decorated with noble motives, these or those actions are always based on material benefits. If the business does not bode well for income or reputation gain, nobody cares about it.
    In the same way, like all these mafiosi, they knock on each other, fall apart during interrogations, breaking in accomplices and bosses, and if they resist, it is solely out of fear for their lives and the lives of relatives who may suffer, if anything. And everyone always acts only as it suits them with a small proviso that ordinary human motives (anger, for example, or jealousy), of course, are not alien to them, although they are inherent to a lesser extent than ordinary law-abiding people. At the same time, the higher the status of a particular mafioso, the less these "human" motives have on him, well, this is the case, in fact, everywhere.
    In general, they are vile bastards, cynical and ruthless, selfish, unprincipled and immoral, and all their "laws", "rules", "concepts" are nothing more than a romantic husk to attract young people and cloud the brains of ordinary people.
    In this, the Italian mafia is no different from any other - all are the same.
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 9 February 2021 19: 45
      +5
      "does not differ from any other" it is for sure that they only need profit.
      Perhaps the "progenitors" of all the groups had romantic thoughts, but the "heirs" exchanged everything for money
      To alter Marx: "a bandit is ready for any crime for the sake of money"
  • dmitry21
    dmitry21 9 February 2021 16: 38
    +6
    awesome!
  • vladcub
    vladcub 9 February 2021 19: 34
    +4
    Valery, you reminded me of my youth. I was 17 and on TV they were telling the story of the emergence of the Sicilian mafia and it was argued that these groups had become transnational.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 10 February 2021 06: 29
      +2
      Quote: vladcub
      Valery, you reminded me of my youth. I was 17 and on TV they were telling the story of the emergence of the Sicilian mafia and it was argued that these groups had become transnational.

      Did you recall your youth? hi and not only to you. smile people, older people even recalled that earlier the topic of the mafia and its growth was discussed a lot in the last century. I heard that in the 70s, but rather in 75, in the journal Foreign Literature, in several issues it was just about turning into transnational.However I didn’t want to know more, no one remembered either the name, or the Italian, like, the author ...
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 11 February 2021 13: 25
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        Dmitry, I saw this magazine, but did not read it. But perhaps I know the author. In the 70s there were not many foreign authors, but at one time I read "Abroad". I remember the materials on the mafia there. Authors: Polkin, I remembered it because in my childhood I often heard: "Polka's yard, at the Polka's corner, etc. Mesini?"
  • depressant
    depressant 9 February 2021 21: 19
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    Sicily's dark population spawned the mafia. Well, let's see.

    University of Palermo (Università degli Studi di Palermo) - located in the city of Palermo, it has about 65.000 students. Currently, the university has twelve faculties: agricultural, architectural, fine arts, economic, pedagogical, engineering, jurisprudence, mathematical, physical and natural sciences, medical, physical, pharmacological, political science. Although the university was officially founded in 1806, the origins of higher education in these places can be traced back to 1498, when medicine and law were already taught here.


    The University of Messina (Università degli Studi di Messina) is located in the city of Messina. Founded in 1548. About 11 students study at 40.000 faculties of the university. The University currently occupies four land plots in Messina. The central administration building and four faculties (economics, political science, law and education) are located in the city center. The Campus of the Polyclinic, located in the southern part of the city, houses the Faculty of Medicine; The Papardo campus, which houses the Faculty of Science and Engineering, is located in the north on the shores of the Strait of Messina, and so on ...

    University of Catania (Università degli Studi di Catania) is a university in Catania, the main university in Sicily. Founded in 1434, it has about 60.000 students. The university has 12 faculties: agricultural, architectural, economic, pharmacological, legal, engineering, literature and philosophy, foreign languages ​​and foreign literature, medical, pedagogical, mathematical, physical and natural sciences, political science, etc.

    The spread of interests of the population of Sicily is surprising, isn't it? Didn't the question arise, where did the honest and courageous police officers, judges, mayors of cities come from, who at the cost of their lives opposed the mafia? And they were. Because the population was not that dark. It was very different.

    Why did I remember the universities of Sicily? There was a mathematical dispute, one of the Sicilian mathematicians attributed the solution of a certain problem to himself, and it was incorrect, but when one of the mathematicians, no matter where he was, tried to challenge his solution, he died in a strange way. This was in the first half of the 20th century.
    Once I read about it, now I tried to find traces of this legend on the Internet, like a cow licked it with its tongue. But when I read about this story, I was amazed: how so? Dark downtrodden Sicily and here you are - universities and a mathematician! But a mathematician, connected, as it should in Sicily, with the mafia))))
    1. VLR
      10 February 2021 07: 01
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      In the second half of the twentieth century, the Italian authorities have invested huge funds in the development of education in Sicily. And even at the beginning of the twentieth century in villages, a person who can write was considered "educated". University education, of course, was elitist. At the same time, local mafias were often headed by people "with higher education": priests, lawyers, even "mayors" of cities and, in general, authoritative (without quotes) people among the people.
      Doctors were often members of the mafia: of course, doctors did not "work" with "Lupars" - only in their specialty. But how can a respected person stay away from a "respected society" (synonymous with "honor society")? There were, of course, illiterate "nuggets" who came forward thanks to their administrative talents and relative fairness in resolving disputes (and not cruelty, as one might think), and therefore enjoying authority. But the deputy for such, again, was one of the educated.
      1. depressant
        depressant 10 February 2021 10: 10
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        Actually, this phenomenon is called a state outside the state. I will not pretend to be an expert. It's just that in recent months I managed to get acquainted, of course, on the Internet, with such a concept. This is when the authorities are not able to create laws that resolve the contradiction in a dignified manner. But changing power is more expensive for yourself. And then society, represented by the strongest, develops its own unspoken laws that suit the majority. Develops and according to pay "taxes". But since there are taxes, then the state outside the state is still a state, that is, an instrument for suppressing some by others.
        Characterizing the self-seizure of vast areas of the Siberian taiga by rich people and the implementation of illegal economic activities on them with the complete connivance of local authorities, the concept of "state outside the state" is used by the scientist - Doctor of Sociological Sciences, Associate Professor, Vice-Rector for Research and International Affairs of the ISU Konstantin Grigorichev.
        This concept made me look with different eyes at what is happening in my village.
    2. taxamata
      taxamata 14 February 2021 11: 40
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      universities one, and the other mountainous Sicily, which is very similar to the Caucasus. in the evening, old men in hats take to the streets, evening service, most of the city takes part in it. a patriarchal country, unlike the Caucasus - a freer sex ratio.
      youth walks without restrictions
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 10 February 2021 05: 08
    +4
    Mafia is often called Cosa Nostra ("Our Business"), but this name appeared in the United States and relatively recently - after 1929.

    Generally speaking, “our house”, “our hut” is translated from Latin.
    Valeria is definitely a plus!
  • Svarog
    Svarog 10 February 2021 09: 33
    +3
    An interesting topic raised and a wonderful article!
    The topic is very extensive and if there is a lot of information about the Italian mafia and a lot of films have been shot. That is the yakuza, not so well-known .. although no less interesting community. Perhaps the author will include this topic in the series of articles.
  • GUSAR
    GUSAR 10 February 2021 11: 55
    +1
    The series "Boardwalk Empire" look, everything is very well shown there and about the connection between organized crime and politics, and the Kennedy clan appears. And let's say very atmospheric.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 11 February 2021 00: 12
    +1
    I remembered the novel "The Sicilian Specialist".
  • Bi-mac
    Bi-mac 12 February 2021 11: 14
    +1
    God, how many beasts there are in the human race! (((((... eat your neighbor ...
    I hope that over time (through the centuries) this will pass.
    1. Fat
      Fat 12 February 2021 13: 26
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      Greetings, Sergey. Hope it doesn't work. Having lost interest in intraspecific competition and expansion, humanity will degenerate and die out. "The process has begun," or rather, it has been going on for a long time. For example, I really only hope that brute, blocky force will give way to other types of rivalry.
  • taxamata
    taxamata 14 February 2021 11: 36
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    when in 1925 the Duce gave Cesare Mori carte blanche, he began to imprison dozens of mafia members. at first there was no effect, Mori was an experienced fighter against banditry, appreciated the support of the mafia
    ordinary people who were too dependent on her. in addition
    in the 20s, many ordinary mafia fighters went through the First World War,
    (war in the mountains of Tyrol) and knew military affairs. In general, Mori understood the essence of the war, and laid siege to one of the strongholds of the Ganji mafia (then the village, now a very beautiful town, was there for a couple of hours on the way to Catania, northern mountainous Sicily. Pts beautiful view, Ganji against the backdrop of Etna). went to all residents. A war with the mafia is possible only by its own means, Mori set up a blockade, began to take hostages, family members, shoot fighters and bosses and solved the problem in 2-3 years.
    Some went into hiding, most left for the USA. But there was no such "iron prefect" in the history of the fight against the mafia. She rose up during the Second World War