Turkish attack drone Bayraktar Akinci ready for serial production

Turkey is preparing mass production of reconnaissance strike drones Acinci. This was reported by the Turkish branch of CNN, citing a statement by the technical director of Baykar Technologies, Selçuk Bayraktar.

According to a company representative, the drone has passed the necessary tests and is ready for mass production. Mass production of the new drone will begin in the near future, and the attack drone will enter service with the Turkish army by the end of 2021.

At the same time, Mahmut Aksit, director of the Turkish engine-building company TEI, said that Turkish PD-222 engines will be installed on the Akinci drone instead of the Ukrainian AI-450T engines currently standing.

Akıncı belongs to a new class of "heavy" drones. The wing span of Bayraktar Akinci is 20 meters, the length of the craft is 12,2 meters, and the height is 4,1 meters. The maximum take-off weight declared by the manufacturer is 4500 kg. In this case, the maximum payload mass is 1350 kg. The declared operating altitude is 30 thousand feet (approximately 9150 meters), the apparatus's service ceiling is 40 feet (approximately 000 meters), and it remains in the air for 12 hours. The drone can fly in fully automatic mode, land and take off on its own. Maximum speed - 200 km / h, cruising speed - 24 km / h.

The drone is equipped with an AFAR radar, six computers with artificial intelligence, a guidance system and six weapons suspension points with a total weight of 1350 kilograms.

Comments

[voronkin]

In Karabakh, they have been tested .. Is the element base clearly Israeli?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: voronkin

In Karabakh, they have been tested .. Is the element base clearly Israeli?

No.

[T.Henks]

The price did not agree.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: T.Henks

The price did not agree.

Since 2009, Israel and Turkey have not had military-technical contacts.

[voronkin]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: voronkin

In Karabakh, they have been tested .. Is the element base clearly Israeli?

No.

No, or no, yes?

[Ryaruav]

judging by the characteristics presented, it is a serious machine, but what about the reliability parameters, only combat use will clarify

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ryaruav

but how is it actually and the reliability parameters only combat use will clarify

Judging by Erdogashi's habits, they may soon clarify

[Lipchanin]

Serious and very dangerous car

a guidance system and six weapon suspension points with a total weight of 1350 kilograms.

[tralflot1832]

An attack aircraft with a pilot with such characteristics sucks; the last century! But it's a miracle without a pilot it's like a wunderwaffe. That air defense can't shoot it down? How is it different from an airplane?

[aars]

Cheap stealth and lack of a pilot.
As a kamikaze, you can use it and not really regret the plastic craft.

[ck9999999]

No pilot on board - yes. With the rest - you can argue.

[113262a]

It is cheaper to train a martyr for one flight. The Japanese know!

[kventinasd]

Well, let the Turks at least rejoice in this, in the absence of their aircraft industry.
For normal air defense, these drones do not present any problems.
And our maize workers flew at such speeds back in the 60s.

[vadim dok]

But at the same time, Turkish UAVs crumbled a lot of various equipment (including the Russian Federation), as well as people in Karabakh.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: vadim dok

But at the same time, Turkish UAVs crumbled a lot of different equipment (including the Russian Federation)

The NKR had neither adequate air defense nor aviation. And so ... These Turkish handicrafts remain in relative safety exactly as long as they are much cheaper than surface-to-air missiles, or air-to-air missiles that can reach them. And even then ... Only on the condition that the very missiles, albeit expensive, but with the approaching disposal date, or the enemy did not decide to spit on the questions of what and how much, did not accumulate in the warehouses. And if for me, then every complication of these UAVs makes them less suitable for real combat operations. Well, if we're not talking about the war against the beggars, who have the most powerful air defense - at the level of the ZU-23.

[Revolver]

Quote: Lannan Shi

while they are much cheaper than surface-to-air missiles, or air-to-air missiles that can reach them

If we talk about the economy, then the price of the rocket should be compared not with the target, but with the price of the object that it has been assigned to guard, and which can be damaged or destroyed if the rocket does not work / does not work well on the target. Jews spend Iron Dome missiles, roughly $ 40000 apiece, to shoot down makeshift rockets at a cost of $ 100 or more, because this makeshift missile can hit, say, a house and cause tens of thousands of damage, and a human life, in terms of insurance, can cost millions. but from the point of view of morality it is generally priceless.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Nagan

If we talk about the economy, then the price of the rocket should be compared not with the target, but with the price of the object,

Does this somehow cancel out the fact that this wunderwolf, in fact, differs little from the Ju-87, designed almost a century ago? What dimensions, what flight characteristics. Being a huge and inhibitory krakozyabra. And in the area of ​​operation of both aviation and air defense, at least at the level of the 60s of the last century, this device will fly, exactly as long as the pilot or the operator of the air defense system is not tired of being lazy and decides to slam it.

[alexmach]

in fact, little different from the Ju-87

Did the Ju-87 have guided weapons?

[Revolver]

Quote: alexmach

Did the Ju-87 have guided weapons?

Ju-87 was a guided weapon
And if, aside from jokes, the trained pilot of the Ju-87 was able to put a bomb from a steep dive into a tank or machine-gun trench. Precision weapons of those years. As long as the Messers were enough to clean the sky over their places of work, it was the horror of all fronts. But as soon as most of the fighters, moreover the best ones, were recalled to cover the Reich from the massive American bombings (somewhere in the middle of the Battle of Kursk), the "laptese" became a laughing stock, on which experienced pilots taught the yellow-horned pilots how to shoot down the Germans correctly. By the middle of 1944 "Stuks" were practically worn off, and more, at least in large quantities, were not used.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: alexmach

Did the Ju-87 have guided weapons?

And what does the UO have to do with it? The UO can be stuck anywhere. At least for a balloon, at least for a galley. Which does not make galleys an alternative to frigates. It was about the carrier of the UO itself. And here the Turks wandered in the wrong place, as it seems to me. The discussed device is not so cheap as to spit on their losses, dozens of them. And too primitive to resist aviation and air defense. Dead end road, if for me.

[alexmach]

And what has the UO?

In the presence of a long-range and high-precision UO, there is no need to enter the short-range air defense coverage area. There is no need to carry out an "attack", there is even no need to carry ammunition with you. Just highlight the target, and the launch itself can be carried out by someone else. Or even just visually correct the art fire. And at the same time, the requirements for maneuverability and speed are reduced.

And then the Turks wandered in the wrong place, as it seems to me ... Dead-end road, if for me

Here, yes, an interesting question regarding the tactics of application. As for me, such a thing would make a good anti-MALE fighter. For shock missions, it really looks reddish, although even the KR-OTRK is predicted for him as a strike weapon.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: alexmach

KR-OTRK some as a strike weapon are prophesied.

This refers to the SOM cruise missile, the range of destruction is 200 km for the first versions. They talk about a version with a range of 500 km or more.

Another interesting weapon option is the Turkish analogue of the GBU-39

Well, naturally guided 250-500 kg JDAM bombs, a new version of MAM-L, AIM-9/120 V-V missiles, etc.

[kventinasd]

Quote: vadim dok

But at the same time, Turkish UAVs crumbled a lot of various equipment (including the Russian Federation), as well as people in Karabakh.

I do not understand this bravado! They can only fight against a helpless enemy, but in a confrontation with an enemy with developed VKS, Turkish drones have exactly the same chances as a hare against a wolf. The Turks do not have a full cycle of UAV production, due to the complete dependence of the supply of components from Western suppliers.

[Israel]

They crumbled where there was no air defense or an unorganized air defense, and real success was only in Karabakh, in Syria after the air defense was pulled up, Turkish drones began to fall, and not only did the video stream stop, so the Assad army successfully took back everything that have lost plus control over key roads.
In Libya, it began not badly for Turkey, because, again, the opposite side was not ready, but then somewhere the whole fuse of the Turks disappeared along with the video from the UAV.

What the Turks are doing took place in Israel and the United States (large slow attack UAVs) and still decided to rely on traditional aviation, because if the enemy has normal air defense, then the UAVs are ineffective.
One of the trends in UAVs is stealthy reconnaissance drones capable of detecting targets, directing artillery, directing kamikaze drones, a lot of work is being done here both in Israel and in the United States, and it is on the verge of scientific progress. The second trend is a swarm of UAVs, but also small UAVs.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: tralflot1832

How is it different from an airplane?

Flight duration. Akinchi flies a day, Aksungur 40-60 hours. Aircraft payload: radar, electronic warfare systems, sea and ground radars, missile bombs, etc. Low political and moral cost of loss, no need to train an expensive pilot. Low usage threshold, you can send where the manned aircraft is not allowed.

[Dread]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Flight duration. Akinchi flies a day, Aksungur 40-60 hours. Aircraft payload: radar, electronic warfare systems, sea and ground radars, missile bombs, etc.

Not tired of posting commercials from the Internet and showing your illiteracy?
What is the detection range of the onboard radar, its weight and the range of information transmission from the radar under interference conditions. What is the image intensifier of the UAV (judging by the latest data - more than 0,5 sq. M.). What is the range of action of small-sized UAV ammunition, their weight. And what is the maximum flight altitude of the UAV, depending on the load of weapons, and so on ... All this is not yet in favor of the UAV.
Russia has a multi-echeloned air defense system,
as well as the use of the latest air defense systems - the Buk-M3 and Pantsir-SM air defense systems, simply reduces the use of UAVs to zero ... About electronic warfare of UAVs - no need to write fables.
However, the topic of UAVs in Russia is also developing and UAVs are being developed.

[bobba94]

Several years ago I read a serious article about the training of military aviation pilots. I was surprised to read and therefore remembered that training for fighter pilots is cheaper than training for bomber pilots. I remembered that training for an F-16 pilot costs $ 5,5 million.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: bobba94

I remembered that training for an F-16 pilot costs $ 5,5 million.

More importantly, it takes a long time. In the United States, training a full-fledged fighter pilot takes 8-10 years. Ie 2 contracts. And not the fact that he will renew the contract. In civilian life, wages are higher and there is no risk.

[Runway]

Please tell me the conditions for the takeoff of the drone. What is the takeoff run? With a ground cover, maybe?

[OgnennyiKotik]

I have no idea, there is no such information in the available sources.

[Runway]

This is a criterion for the efficiency of the use of all UAVs. Accordingly, vulnerability (determination of bases). At An-2 - roughly 200 meters (from the ground / turf it can). The Turkish bird is close in weight / load, but the power of the engine and the wing area are? And the air temperature / breeze should also affect the size of the runway and the carrying capacity.

[OgnennyiKotik]

For this class of UAVs, basing at the airfield is prescribed. They are expensive there will be few. With a range of 5000 km, Akinchi can fly from mainland Turkey to all theaters where they are present. And to London from New Delhi, and the Hussites will be able to bomb, even fly to sunny Magadan, although refueling will be needed back.

[lucul]

Range of action 5000 km,

What? Is the device only 5 tons in weight and 5 km of range? No, if the wing area there was still like a U-000, I would still believe it, but so ...

[OgnennyiKotik]

Boy, Akinchi's wingspan is only 3,8 meters shorter than the U-2A, but his dry weight is about 1,5-2 times less. This is a healthy colossus.

[lucul]

Boy, Akinchi's wingspan is only 3,8 meters shorter than the U-2A, but his dry weight is about 1,5-2 times less. This is a healthy colossus.

And you can't tell from the photo (in the article).
Akinchi is a classmate of our Altius. Only Altius has a flight range of 10 km, and the wings are larger)))

[Runway]

Until Magadan gets tired ... it means blah with the considered efficiency (like all the Turkish Air Force). Airplane not in wartime, or against hicks.
And what about the blahs promoted in Karabakh? Length, runway quality? Very interesting, I did not find any data (maybe I was looking badly).

[Emil mamedoff]

Quote: voronkin

In Karabakh, they have been tested .. Is the element base clearly Israeli?

1. No, this UAV has not yet visited Azerbaijan.
2. No, not Israeli.

[Mountain shooter]

Serious apparatus. And the bombs are serious.
It is necessary to shoot down such immediately, without waiting for trouble. You can't get one of these from MANPADS, and you can't get "Derivation" either.
This is the beech. The target is big, slow ...

[tralflot1832]

Interestingly, but it can be taken under control immediately after takeoff. It was a long time ago, there was a colonel in our school NVPshnik, a former commander of the Safonov regiment. So he said that the enemy was taken under control during takeoff by radio exchange.

[OgnennyiKotik]

This requires massively AWACS and EW aircraft. They wept like a cat in Russia.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

This is the beech. The target is big, slow ...

And at the same time well stuffed. Those. not cheap. Those. worth spending a rocket on.

[Runway]

The places of basing (about 20 for the Turks) in the dust is necessary for the equipment and the two-legged in the mince for lyulyakebab.

[Emil mamedoff]

Radar AFAR is good, 100% will be air-to-air missiles.
The most interesting thing is that it will carry heavier bombs, such as laser MK82 or its Turkish counterpart.
SOM cruise missiles with a range of 250 and 300 km.
Or a lot of Bozok, Umtas, Mam-L.

Yes, with 2 large engines it will glow just as well for air defense thermal missiles. But what to do, because of this, not to release the UAV or what?)

[kventinasd]

Quote: Emil Mamedoff

Yes, with 2 large engines it will glow just as well for air defense thermal missiles. But what to do, because of this, not to release the UAV or what?)

Produce, but more high-speed and maneuverable, such as the Hunter. And so for conventional fighter aircraft, these Bayraktars are an easy target, and for ground air defense they will shine like a Christmas tree.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: kventinasd

for ground air defense, they will glow like a Christmas tree.

Ground air defense will shine no worse.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Emil Mamedoff

2 large engines will also glow well for thermal imaging air defense missiles

Not really, diesel aircraft engines are "cold", the heat trail dissipates well. The aircraft is made of radio-absorbing composites. In general, not an easy target for air defense. Considering the range of weapons, lethal for most systems.
It needs the latest modifications of the Buk, S-300 and new S-350/400 (well, or Western / Chinese counterparts) there are not so many of them.

[Aviator_]

Turkish PD-222 engines will be installed on the Akinci drone instead of the Ukrainian AI-450T engines currently standing.

What about collaboration? Or Turkish dviguns are made under the Ukrop license?

[Nirvanko]

Fact, but the Turks are now ahead of Russia in the development of UAVs. The result of Russia's investing 1% of GDP in science, while the leading scientific countries invest 4% each.

Alas and ah, but Putin is far from Peter the Great in thinking. All the wild revenues from oil go not to the development of science, but to the bank and pocket.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Nirvanko

Fact, but the Turks are now ahead of Russia in the development of UAVs. The result of Russia's investing 1% of GDP in science, while the leading scientific countries invest 4% each.

Ash and Borei - is it one percent contribution to science? Or maybe Sarmat and Yars-S? Or Su-57 and S-400, S-500 fit in one percent? And what is the percentage of Buk-M3?
Maybe the Brest reactor is one percent? Or a floating nuclear power plant? Aircraft engines of the PD family, too, must be much less than one percent. Or ship diesels. Well, and Zircon in general, according to this logic, is the century before last, and not at all percent.
But the Turks are so ahead of Russia that they have not yet completed their own tank. Probably all four percent of scientific contributions go to UAVs.

Alas and ah, but Putin is far from Peter the Great in thinking.

Well, straight Syromyatnikov from "Let's Live Until Monday"!
- In general, I think that Russia, after Peter the Great, was very unlucky for tsars. This is my personal opinion.
- Here you give him one, and Yuri Nikulin will come out of him. It turns out that the future of our art was stifling.

[Nirvanko]

Ash trees ... Boreas .. Funny. We will boast of this for a long time to come, if in general we need to thank the Soviet school of designers for these developments. This backlog of the Soviet Union, like the entire nuclear and aviation industry. UAVs as a new industry are simply indicative that modern Russia in terms of technical development has dropped to the level of regional powers such as Turkey or even lower.

In the USSR, science was put at the foundation, and in modern Russia its permanent leader for 20 years has been talking about an energy superpower, allocating 1% of GDP for science.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Nirvanko

In terms of technical development, Russia has dropped to the level of regional powers such as Turkey or even lower.

I named not only Ash and Boreas.
And what, besides the UAV, can Turkey do? Or is this enough for her to personally declare Russia backward?
Soviet school, you say? And on what, interestingly, were the Soviet developments of the thirties and forties based? Was there really solid know-how, and the imperial reserve was not used at all?
Did Tupolev weaved out of primitive chaos as a genius aircraft designer only after 1917?
Why could the USSR be able to use the legacy of the Russian Empire, and why modern Russia could use the USSR's achievements - a sheer junk, according to some?

[Nirvanko]

Dear, you can grimace as much as you like - the fact that the developed technological powers allocate up to 4% of GDP for science, while Russia you will not cancel 1%.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Something you have long sculpted your answer. Out of indignation, lost the gift of typing on the keyboard? AND! We thought day and night how you could answer my questions more weighty. But all the thoughts did not lead to anything, so they decided to simply ignore the questions. What a brave act! A self-sufficient and erudite person is immediately visible!
Continue in the same spirit. So, you see, someday you will even start reading books.

[Bolt cutter]

The Turks are now ahead of Russia in the development of UAVs.

They have access to any components and electronics that will not be sold to Russia due to the sanctions.

[Emil mamedoff]

Quote: kventinasd

Quote: Emil Mamedoff

Yes, with 2 large engines it will glow just as well for air defense thermal missiles. But what to do, because of this, not to release the UAV or what?)

Produce, but more high-speed and maneuverable, such as the Hunter. And so for conventional fighter aircraft, these Bayraktars are an easy target, and for ground air defense they will shine like a Christmas tree.

Well, these are slightly different UAVs, I think it is inappropriate to compare them. The Jet Hunter does not know how to hover for long observation (or fly at super low speeds). And even more ground for air defense.
Each of them has its own advantage and its own purpose.

[Nestor Vlakhovski]

Well done Turks, drones have almost caught up with the ripper, it remains to tighten the breo, and one can say "Ottomans are strong".

[Ros 56]

At the same time, Mahmut Aksit, director of the Turkish engine-building company TEI, said that Turkish PD-222 engines will be installed on the Akinci drone instead of the Ukrainian AI-450T engines currently standing.

That's the same zrada, but the saucepans, well, Turkish ally.

[Avior]

Something wrong
Turkish-American turbodiesel engines PD-222 can be supplied instead of jet turboshaft AI-450?

[OgnennyiKotik]

The AI-450T turboprop engine is a variant of the AI-450 twin-rotor turboshaft engine developed for installation on a UAV.

[Errr]

The AI-450 with the letter T (AI-450T) is a variant of the AI-450C - an engine for light multipurpose general aviation aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles. It is not a turboshaft, it is a turboprop.

http://ivchenko-progress.com/?portfolio=аи-450с&lang=ru#prettyPhoto

[Sands Careers General]

Something the Turks have been raging lately, is this to him?))

[cniza]

The old wounds stopped hurting ...

[ck9999999]

The Turks, of course, well done - they quietly staged an "aviation Galipoli". The uprising of the machines will show everything.

[dust31]

the news cut straight with contrast. News about Russia is all in the future tense, and this is in the present, sorry not about us.

[Zaurbek]

That's what the Turks love about all technology - design! Ours will do it ..... compare with Altair.

[APASUS]

equipped with radar with AFAR, six computers with artificial intelligence,

The Turks have solved the problem of artificial intelligence?

[Israel]

as many as six computers were delivered, and all with artificial intelligence.

[Emil mamedoff]

Quote: Zaurbek

That's what the Turks love about all technology - design! Ours will do it ..... compare with Altair.

I don’t think that designers work there separately for the beauty of appearance. It's just that when developing the design, all sorts of aerodynamic, stealth-stealth moments and so on are taken into account - that's what it looks like by itself.
For example, TB2's design is ugly for me.)
Like a shark cub born under radiation conditions.

(And their armored vehicles, tanks, ships are really very beautiful.)

[OgnennyiKotik]

TB-2 is still ok, but TB-2S is really ugly.

[Emil mamedoff]

Well, yes, but this is a forced measure, because of the antenna.) Although the TB-2S has a bulge with a very graceful thin transition (in aviation this is a plus), it is not as sharp-spherical as that of Anka S and other similar UAVs, the fashion for which went after MQ-9, further from Israel and China, all as a carbon copy.)

[xomaNN]

instead of the currently standing Ukrainian AI-450T engines.

Then why do Turks need Ukraine as partners?

[Israel]

Yesterday, all this is in order to drive the enemy without more or less normal air defense. A big, slow target and already expensive enough for the Buk to work on. If the declared characteristics of the Russian Pantsir-SM correspond to the real ones, it will destroy such drones until there is enough ammunition.

[Zaurbek]

Colonial Wars - Reality and Future. They are dying "dear" soldiers of developed countries. Such UAVs save their lives. This segment will actively develop. How much would Azerbaijan lose in such a conflict without the UAV?

[Azimuth]

As many.
The main losses of the Azerbaijanis are the composition of the special forces, the number of which they hid among various security agencies and their units.
The role of the UAV in the Karabakh war was greatly exaggerated by the Armenians and partly by us in an effort to justify the defeat. The same units of the Azeri Special Forces inflicted many more casualties on the Armenians in manpower, despite the fact that they did not have heavy weapons and operated in ordinary combat, often in hand-to-hand combat.

Here you need to understand the background of the conflict - Aliyev would never have dared to start hostilities without receiving any good from the GDP, and immediately stopped on command and did not achieve the desired result and failed to restore his sovereignty within the borders of the Azerbaijan SSR. There are many words about Turkey, but she acted only as a guarantor for Aliyev and, apparently, not without our consent.
For us, the task was to resolve the issue of changing the internal political situation in Armenia and changing the pro-Russian Pashinyan, while with minimal damage to our status as an ally and guarantor of Armenia's security. But, the degree of degradation of the Armenian army in the training and equipping of which we took part, including with large deliveries of weapons literally on the eve of the start of hostilities, turned out to be so great that the hostilities turned into beating a baby. A further offensive of the Azerbaijani army would end in disaster for the Armenians, especially since the Azerbaijanis, having felt the taste of victory, gained superiority over the demoralized Armenians, every day reducing the proportion of losses in their favor, and this despite the fact that they were conducting offensive operations. The complete defeat of the Armenians was no longer included in our plans, as it compromised our status as an ally, in addition, the destruction by Azerbaijanis of our modern air defense systems, electronic warfare, etc. discredited our systems in the global arms market.
Regarding the latter, this is important, one has only to remember how much interest in Turkish attack UAVs has grown as a result of the war.


If at all about UAVs, then the war in Transcaucasia once again proved that UAVs in need of operations at home airfields or hard-surface runways were and will remain weapons against Zulus or pasties of various colors and colors. In the modern conflict between two developed countries, the price of such a UAV is ZERO, airfields and control points, relay systems, including satellite ones, or effective jamming will be installed rather quickly. But relatively light UAVs as a means of destroying radar systems and air defense systems, a means of fighting tanks and long-term firing points will continue to be effective and relevant.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Azimuth

Aliyev would never have dared to start hostilities without receiving good from GDP

Preparations for the war in Karabakh were sharply accelerated after the fighting in Idlib. The SAA and the allies at Idlib were defeated and unable to continue fighting. This threatened the loss of Aleppo. For stopping the counter-offensive of the Turkish coalition, the surrender of Sirakib and the routes could be given, including Karabakh, i.e. assurance that the RF Armed Forces will not fight directly.
The blitzkrieg of Azerbaijan was a surprise for everyone. The technical and tactical superiority over the Armenians turned out to be too great. And yes, Turkish UAVs did not play the biggest role, Israeli ones were more effective.

Quote: Azimuth

In the modern conflict between two developed countries

There will be no direct conflicts between developed countries, it is not profitable. Now is the time of hybrid wars when video is more important than the action itself.
The Akinci class already has the pinnacle of excellence MQ-9. This is where they will stop. Swarms of small drones and jet unmanned systems will be further developed. Loyal Wingman's concept is one of the most promising.

[Azimuth]

This heavy UAV will serve as a launch platform for its own Turkish-made cruise missiles. In this capacity, it is quite effective, since it has a long loitering time, a large flight airiness.
In fact, a mini missile carrier, significantly reducing costs and risks.

[OgnennyiKotik]

He will be more effective as a scout. Air, sea, ground radars, various electronic warfare systems, PLO systems.
Also suitable for a first strike on air defense systems. KR, panic bombs of the GBU-39 type. Covering the operation area of ​​lighter UAVs from manned aircraft is also within the power. Shoot down a helicopter or L-39 completely.
Working as an attack aircraft is not exactly his task.
For these tasks, Bayraktars are more suitable for regional conflicts; jet UAVs are being created for larger-scale military operations.

[Azimuth]

[quote = OgnennyiKotik] [quote = Azimuth] Aliyev would never have dared to start hostilities without receiving good from GDP [/ quote]
Preparations for the war in Karabakh were sharply accelerated after the fighting in Idlib. The SAA and the allies at Idlib were defeated and unable to continue fighting. This threatened the loss of Aleppo. For stopping the counter-offensive of the Turkish coalition, the surrender of Sirakib and the routes could be given, including Karabakh, i.e. assurance that the RF Armed Forces will not fight directly.
The blitzkrieg of Azerbaijan was a surprise for everyone. The technical and tactical superiority over the Armenians turned out to be too great. And yes, Turkish UAVs did not play the biggest role, Israeli ones were more effective. [Quote] I'll start from the end.
The fact that the Israeli UAVs were more effective, I will not argue, they are at least more perfect, this became noticeable when we slowed you down at the end of the war. It was only necessary to use electronic warfare and the Turkish UAVs immediately stood up, the strikes continued only by the Israeli Harop and Orbiter, it was so obvious and noticeable that only a layman could not pay attention.

For the main part. I do not think that Karabakh was the subject of an exchange between us and the Turks for positions in Syria. Aliyev needed Turkey as an arbiter and guarantor in negotiations and agreements with the GDP, nothing more. By the beginning of the war, Turkey prepared more than one generation of your officers and most of those who distinguished themselves, up to the generals, were just natives of the special forces from and to trained by the Turks and others, including the United States. Turkey could not give more to Azerbaijan, having a military-industrial complex too dependent on Europeans and Americans, although they drool over seeing multi-billion dollar contracts with us and the Israelis.
Aliyev and Azerbaijan are quite rich Buratins, but all that broke off the Turks was the supply of Chinese licensed MLRS, communication systems, partly uniforms and equipment, and the very same UAVs, although in the latter case they got bumps because of the subsequent refusals in the supply of components from European and American companies.

If the role of Turkey is as great as you think, then the results of the war in Karabakh can be regarded as its defeat. In fact, we just supported Erdogan's falling pants, and he is still beneficial to us. Azerbaijan has achieved limited and incomplete success and I do not think that Aliyev expected more. We, in turn, have just solved all our tasks and not without the help and participation of Aliyev and your army. The Armenians got off, albeit not easy, but so far only with fright and their future fate entirely depends on their own choice and behavior, but judging by the monument to Nzhdeh erected recently in Karabakh and not removed in Yerevan, they have not yet made the correct conclusions and there may be local suggestions with our side.

Everything else is NAIV and the snot of high school girls.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Azimuth

If the role of Turkey is as great as you think, then the results of the war in Karabakh can be regarded as its defeat.

On the contrary. There could be no better option for the Turks. The remnants of Artsakh are not needed for nothing, a poor territory without resources and a hostile population. It is a great option to bring our peacekeepers there to disarm the Armenians and maintain order. The introduction of Azerbaijani troops there would mean the introduction of full-fledged sanctions, no one needs it at all. In addition, Aliyev does not need this, the enemy on which he can be promoted disappears, the Turks are not profitable due to the fact that Azerbaijan will solve all the problems, Russia is not profitable for the same reason, in short, it is not profitable for anyone to end the conflict in Karabakh, otherwise it would be resolved a long time ago. This problem is not worth a damn.
For the Turks, more important is the direct railway to the ports of Baku, with access to Central Asia and China. Restoration of railway communication with Russia as another +. The Lachin corridor is the guarantee for the existence of the corridor to Nakhichevan. Another plus is the strengthening of Turkey's image as a winning country.
The hidden beneficiary is England, for the fact that Turkey is the conductor of its interests, Turkey gained access to the British market and its technologies.
The current Russian government made a good face on a bad game. Yes, we were not kicked out of the Transcaucasia, they restored our influence on Armenia, we have a lever of pressure on Azerbaijan. But these are tactical victories with strategic losses. Within 5 years, transport corridors will work, Europe and Asia will be connected directly bypassing Russia. The Russian market will become less interesting for Asian countries, and the influence will decrease accordingly. Another betrayal of the current government of Russia's interests, nothing new.

[cheap trick]

then these flyers will bomb the Crimea!

[elai]

How did the barmaley planted 2 of our eagles in Idlib, who helped with electronic warfare?