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Popular Mechanics: Will the new Russian body armor stop a 50-caliber bullet?

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Popular Mechanics: Will the new Russian body armor stop a 50-caliber bullet?

Russia has started to develop a new generation of military equipment called "Sotnik" ("Centurion"). Particular attention is drawn to the newly developed body armor capable of stopping a 50-caliber bullet. Writes about this the American edition of Popular Mechanics.


The Russian state corporation Rostec has announced the start of work on new equipment for Russian military personnel. Equipment "Sotnik" should begin to enter the Russian army in 2025 and replace the equipment "Ratnik". The equipment manufacturer promises breakthrough technology for making body armor that can withstand a 50-caliber bullet hit.

The publication notes that the declared characteristics of the new equipment emphasize the desire of the developers to create a modern system of personal equipment for a soldier.

Equipment (...) will include (...) mine boots, an anti-thermal suit to shelter soldiers from enemy detection and a radar element. The centurion also integrates the system owner with automated command and control and micro-drones, allowing the collected images to be transmitted in real time to a helmet visor or goggles.

- the newspaper writes, adding that the question is only a new bulletproof vest.

The Centurion's armor will consist of lightweight polyethylene fiber and armor designed to withstand a direct shot from a .2 Browning M50. However, according to the magazine, the "polyethylene" armor, even if it stops a 50-caliber bullet, which the authors doubt, the impact will be of such force that the body armor cannot compensate for it.

In the event of a 50-caliber bullet hit, a soldier is unlikely to be able to conduct hostilities, the publication sums up.
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  1. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 6 February 2021 10: 45
    -16%
    How many laughed at Russian nanotechnology - but here it is, the result is quite material.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 6 February 2021 10: 51
      +16
      Equipment "Sotnik" should begin to enter the Russian army in 2025 and replace the equipment "Ratnik". Equipment manufacturer promises breakthrough technology

      To promise is not to marry. Again, this office has nothing to do with Rusnano, although in fact the same thing.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 6 February 2021 12: 44
        +14
        The warrior is not only a 6B45 body armor which can be of 5 and 6 classes and a 6B47 helmet, the equipment includes more than a dozen items (unloading, tent, headphones, knife, ....... knee pads). Unfortunately, it enters the troops in small quantities. And now they were going to change it without supplying even 1/3 of the army with Ratnik. So there will always be something new, but the fighters, as they ran in 6B2, will carry it around.
        1. Genry
          Genry 6 February 2021 14: 27
          +6
          Quote: YOUR
          And now they were going to change it without supplying even 1/3 of the army with Ratnik.

          The army has, as it were, different units. Now we are thinking about the assault sappers, which were abolished after the collapse of the USSR. Their material base is being created, respectively, and armor-clothing.
          1. Genry
            Genry 6 February 2021 14: 47
            +4


            https://pikabu.ru/story/yekipirovka_voennyikh_inzhenerov_iz_rotyi_zagrazhdeniya_i_shturma_4269815
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 6 February 2021 20: 06
              +12
              What the hell?
              If a 50 caliber bullet hits a person, even if it does not pierce the armor, one mince will remain from the person. And no compensators and pressure distributors will help
              1. Genry
                Genry 6 February 2021 20: 30
                -2
                Quote: Shurik70
                What the hell?

                Before writing, maybe you should have read it?
                This is not a new outfit and do not confuse the liquid cooling system with some kind of expansion joints.
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 6 February 2021 20: 50
                  +4
                  Quote: Genry
                  Before writing, maybe you should have read it?

                  It is written that the armor is capable of "withstanding a direct shot from a Browning M2 .50 caliber."
                  And this is a supersonic cartridge 12,7 × 99 mm.
                  So I say - crap. A person cannot survive sweat with such a bullet, even if the armor survives.
                  1. Genry
                    Genry 6 February 2021 20: 55
                    -1
                    Quote: Shurik70
                    it is a supersonic cartridge of 12,7 × 99 mm.
                    So I say - crap. A person cannot survive sweat with such a bullet, even if the armor survives.

                    You need to make allowances for writers. Moreover, they take information from the "damaged phone" of the OBS level. Have you not come across a wave of carbon-copy articles with obvious delirium before.
                  2. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 6 February 2021 21: 52
                    -2
                    Quote: Shurik70
                    And this is a supersonic cartridge 12,7 × 99 mm.
                    So I say - crap. A person cannot survive sweat with such a bullet, even if the armor survives.

                    international conventions prohibit the use of such a cartridge against enemy personnel. It is positioned as antimaterial, i.e. to defeat the material part - armored vehicles ...
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 6 February 2021 23: 10
                      +7
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      international conventions prohibit the use of such a cartridge against enemy personnel

                      The current wars are waged in such a way that no one cares about any conventions. Landmines near the roads, provocations with chemical weapons, phosphorus bombs, hostages and more. And as little as a large-caliber sniper rifle chambered for such a cartridge, it is officially in service with many armies. And the video is laid out as the enemy is destroyed from it. And no one "itches" to be indignant. And if it does, most users of such a rifle do not care about this scabies
                    2. English tarantas
                      English tarantas 7 February 2021 05: 30
                      +1
                      An old joke, it’s not funny for 100 years.
              2. ROMAN VYSOTSKY
                ROMAN VYSOTSKY 7 February 2021 01: 06
                +5
                The author of the article, apparently, does not know what an injury to armor is. It seems that the author believes that after a bullet hits a bulletproof vest, the fighters cheerfully, like in a movie, immediately get up and run on.
                And about cracks in the sternum, fractures of the ribs, rupture of the spleen, aorta, cardiac arrest, internal hematomas and bleeding, he simply did not hear.
                Kinetic energy of a 12.7 mm bullet flying at a speed of about 800 m / s and a mass of 50 grams. just monstrous. About 15-20 thousand joules. I don’t know if such a bullet will pierce the polymer, but the armored injury will not be compatible with the further service of the internal organs.
              3. halpat
                halpat 7 February 2021 07: 24
                +4
                Quote: Shurik70
                What the hell?
                If a 50 caliber bullet hits a person, even if it does not pierce the armor, one mince will remain from the person. And no compensators and pressure distributors will help

                I still need to learn 152-mm shells ... to catch smile and everything will be a bunch.
                brought him home, he was alive smile
              4. dementor873
                dementor873 7 February 2021 12: 31
                0
                Maybe they mean the concept of an exoskeleton? There are already prototypes and without power supply, it remains to attach the armor protection and there will be a Spartan from Halo).
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 7 February 2021 12: 37
                  +2
                  Quote: dementor873
                  Maybe they mean the concept of an exoskeleton?

                  The "centurion" has an exoskeleton, but only for support. It will help to carry heavy things.
                  The armor is not attached to an exoskeleton, but to a person.
                  1. dementor873
                    dementor873 7 February 2021 12: 44
                    +2
                    Here we need the concept of an exo with a rigid frame, into which a person is already inserted, so that the impact energy is received by this frame, as in a car dampers made of soft metals extinguish energy in a collision, taking on themselves. But it will turn out to be something like the movie Edge of Tomorrow.
                    The message of protection against a 50-caliber bullet is simply incomprehensible, it must be poured into the frontal onto a pickup truck with a machine gun.
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 7 February 2021 12: 48
                      +1
                      Quote: dementor873
                      Here we need an exo concept with a rigid frame, into which a person is already inserted

                      This will certainly be the armor of the future.
                      Now this cannot be done - there is no compact, powerful and capacious battery.
                      If they make a nuclear reactor the size of a tennis ball, with a capacity of "a hundred horses" and a period of operation at one refueling for at least a day - there will immediately appear armor a la iron man
                      1. dementor873
                        dementor873 7 February 2021 12: 50
                        0
                        Then it’s easier to follow the path of genetically modifying the soldiers, so that they carry on themselves.
                      2. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 7 February 2021 12: 56
                        0
                        It takes a long time to grow gene modifiers.
                        But cyborgs can be stamped a lot
                        As well as robots - if instead of a person in armor there is a complex of batteries and electric motors, then the armor will pull completely.
                        There are already prototypes of "avatar" where, instead of a computer, a person controls a robot remotely
                      3. Narak-zempo
                        Narak-zempo 10 February 2021 08: 39
                        -1
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        But cyborgs can be stamped a lot

                        In this case, it is necessary to follow the path of neurointerface development.
                        Then it will be possible to simply take a separate head or even just a human brain and place it in a combat vehicle (tank, airplane, etc.), connecting the neurointerface with the control system. It will turn out like dreadnoughts in Warhammer 40K.
          2. zenion
            zenion 7 February 2021 21: 08
            -4
            Shurik70 (Alexander). You are not aware of this tank top. They did not add a lot so as not to betray his real capabilities. This sleeveless jacket, when a bullet approaches, calculates where it flies, at what speed, then grabs this bullet, twists it and throws it with all its might to the place where it came from. In this way, it can protect and reject ammunition, even with casings up to 100 mm. Without sleeves up to 101 mm. I hope that now it has become clear to you that no one and will not have analogues in our star system. Bullets of 50 caliber throws at a distance of 5 km. Shells up to 101 mm at a distance of 12 km 115 meters, a tube into a tube into the barrel of a tank or any weapon. Hu! I wrote the whole truth. The leader of the couch troops of the house.
      2. YOUR
        YOUR 7 February 2021 04: 21
        -1
        The warrior was created for various units, different equipment, different protection class for body armor
        1. zenion
          zenion 7 February 2021 21: 13
          0
          YOUR (Vladimir). Different classes, which school, which city plizzhalusta ?!
      3. Private-K
        Private-K 7 February 2021 08: 46
        0
        Quote: Genry
        Now we are thinking about the assault sappers, which were abolished after the collapse of the USSR.

        Assault sapper units were dispersed immediately after the Second World War, and not after the partition of the USSR.
    2. wt100
      wt100 6 February 2021 14: 30
      +8
      6B2 you have completely climbed into history, the army is more than equipped with 6B23 and its modifications, and basically already 6B45
    3. DrEng527
      DrEng527 6 February 2021 15: 56
      +3
      Quote: YOUR
      So there will always be something new

      and this is normal - military construction is underway! If you constantly change all weapons and equipment at once, then no money will be enough! request
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 7 February 2021 04: 23
        -1
        If you constantly change the good for the best, then we will be left with nothing. Only with plans.
    4. Yuri Zaitsev
      Yuri Zaitsev 6 February 2021 20: 54
      -2
      it was necessary not to change anything since the days of the knights ... there would be fewer experts and critics ...
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 6 February 2021 10: 52
    +9
    Now we will attack the M2 Browning without even bending down smile let them be afraid.
    1. WIKI
      WIKI 6 February 2021 11: 38
      +5
      Russia has started to develop a new generation of military equipment called "Sotnik" ("Centurion").
      From the official announcement of Rostec, I still did not understand what "Sotnik" ("Centurion") is. "Rostec, on the instructions of the Russian Ministry of Defense, has begun research work on the creation of fourth generation combat equipment for the soldier of the future. It is planned to develop it to replace the third generation Sotnik equipment. The state corporation is developing the Sotnik third generation equipment, some of which are already undergoing preliminary tests. . "I understand that they are going to change the equipment that does not exist yet. There is no talk about any caliber at all. https://rostec.ru/news/rostekh-razrabotaet-boevuyu-ekipirovku-chetvertogo-pokoleniya/
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 6 February 2021 14: 51
        -1
        The equipment manufacturer promises breakthrough technology for making body armor that can withstand a 50-caliber bullet hit.

        Even if you believe that this is possible, the question remains: how much will it cost? request
    2. figwam
      figwam 6 February 2021 12: 16
      +9
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Now we will attack the M2 Browning

      For comparison, the .50 Browning is the first on the left - 12.7x99 mm, and with the green sleeve our 7.62x39 mm.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 6 February 2021 14: 43
        +11
        For comparison .50 Browning is which
        and 15530-20257 J., and how are they going to stop him with a supermolecular polymer and ceramics with a titanium layer with fifty layers of aramid fiber ???? and compensate for the over-the-counter action, or with "meat" the body of a fighter with fragments of bones !? laughing
        1. JonnyT
          JonnyT 6 February 2021 21: 07
          +3
          Magnetic field and liquid plasma
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 7 February 2021 05: 39
            0
            Magnetic field and liquid plasma
            maybe better, then with fastening amulets and astral power 80lvl !? laughing
          2. zenion
            zenion 7 February 2021 21: 18
            -1
            JonnyT. Why did you suddenly start calling Jews liquid plasma and other words that you did not write, but thought it was better not to write. Wait until it is written from Israel against you that you do not understand Jews and that liquid plasma is made not from Jews, but on the contrary, from a completely different substance that is boiled, from the very substance that is this very plasma. In general, you confused me, almost fell off the chair. Do not write to me any more, do not call me and do not send telegrams. Postman Lepechkin.
        2. Sergey Fomenko
          Sergey Fomenko 7 February 2021 09: 09
          +4
          A portable altar with bell chimes ...
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 7 February 2021 13: 18
            0
            A portable altar with bell chimes ...
            it is quite possible and so, to raise the morale of the operators-carriers of the "Centurion", as an additional function! wink
    3. FrankyStein
      FrankyStein 6 February 2021 13: 10
      -2
      What a pessimist you are, you are an optimist.
    4. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 6 February 2021 16: 20
      +4
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Now we will attack the M2 Browning without even bending down smile let them be afraid.
      special forces shield
      special forces shield
      Perhaps the designers have in mind this option ...
      As SHIELD soldier
    5. RaiderXV1909
      RaiderXV1909 6 February 2021 18: 44
      0
      Well, not every fighter, even with an old machine gun, walks
  • donavi49
    donavi49 6 February 2021 10: 52
    +18
    Well, there are problems with body physics. Where to dissipate 18 J? For comparison, now the peak of what heavy systems dissipate is 000-3,5 kJ. Well, again, there is an opportunity to increase the caliber. Even the grandfather's PTR and attempts to make a sniper rifle out of it - 4 J.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 6 February 2021 10: 58
      +22
      Yes, yes ... to dissipate the energy of a 50-caliber bullet ... here's the cuirass ... was also intended to dissipate something ... at one time ... request

      It is curious that judging by the indentation mark, she still stopped the bullet, but the core ... crying
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 6 February 2021 11: 04
        +39
        Well, it just didn't scatter anything, but "There is a breakthrough."

        The point is that it is technically possible to make armor that will hold more - for example, a voiced heavy machine gun. The problem is the spasmodic build-up of energy. What thread a policeman takes in a soft bulletproof vest with a shock-absorbing layer a bullet with 350 J - will get off with a bruise. Army systems with distribution and serious depreciation allow holding 7,62x39 - this is already 2000+ J. They, in a certain configuration, allow you to hold 7,62x51 / 54 - and this is already up to 3500-4000 J. But 12,7 is from 18000 J. This energy must be put somewhere. And if you do not figure out how to take it away, then the bulletproof vest will withstand, moreover, in the grave the deceased will be as alive, only inside there will be minced meat from organs and bones.
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 6 February 2021 11: 10
          +6
          And here is a sample wrapped ... in an overcoat with a jersey:

          But this, oddly enough, is a model for ..... the police, although it looks, is very "militaristic"
          1. aars
            aars 6 February 2021 11: 19
            +9
            The Germans love different pieces of iron ...
            1. user1212
              user1212 6 February 2021 12: 09
              +8
              Quote: aars
              The Germans love different pieces of iron ...

              Why "all sorts", quite a suitable option for the police during riots. There are almost no firearms, but knives, an awl, "roses" from bottles and other "inventory". Finely braided chain mail as one of the options
          2. Sofa batyr
            Sofa batyr 6 February 2021 11: 29
            +9
            Quote: Snail N9
            And here is the sample wrapped ... in an overcoat with an undercoat

            Also an option :

        2. lucul
          lucul 6 February 2021 13: 36
          +4
          Army systems with distribution and serious depreciation allow you to hold 7,62x39 - this is already 2000+ J. They, in a certain configuration, allow you to hold 7,62x51 / 54 - and this is already up to 3500-4000 J. But 12,7 is from 18000 J. This energy must be put somewhere. And if you do not figure out how to take it away, then the bulletproof vest will withstand, moreover, in the grave the deceased will be as if it were alive, only there will be minced meat from organs and bones inside.

          And why does everyone think that a bullet must necessarily hit an armored vehicle from a distance of no more than 10m? ))))
          This Browning 12,7 mm shoots without problems at 2 km, and with a distance the bullet, as you know, loses energy.
          And in this Centurion, the fighter will have a MUCH better chance of surviving.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 6 February 2021 14: 02
            +3
            Well, 2 km is really quite optimistic. But all the same, there will be a lot of energy, more than 2 times more than modern army systems dissipate.

            And yes, if you decide directly on the forehead, then this reinforced plate can be made (taking into account the non-penetration of 2 km) and not come up with scaly armor of the 21st century.
        3. Stone
          Stone 6 February 2021 16: 52
          +3
          Most likely, such an armor will be used in conjunction with an exoskeleton, then it will receive the main load. The person will simply be carried away, like a shock wave, but he will not receive serious (fatal) injuries.
          1. zenion
            zenion 7 February 2021 21: 25
            0
            With modern medicine, the head can be glued in place. But if you manage to find and save a hand, where to send it, to a museum, or to a family home?
        4. vargo
          vargo 6 February 2021 18: 08
          +2
          As far as we know, it is planned to use an exoskeleton in the kit. Perhaps part of it will be allocated? Shakes, of course, no joke, but still
        5. zenion
          zenion 7 February 2021 21: 22
          -1
          It is best to deflect such a bullet with your hand wrapped in blue duct tape. But be careful and upward, so as not to blow off your neighbor's head.
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 6 February 2021 11: 14
        +5
        Quote: Snail N9
        judging by the indentation mark, she still stopped the bullet, but the

        Your words should be understood as a wish to the developers of body armor not to stop there? what
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 6 February 2021 11: 16
          +3
          Yes! There is no limit to perfection! fellow
          1. Snail N9
            Snail N9 6 February 2021 11: 17
            +3
            I hope the irony is understandable here? wink Or is it, in such a topic, is not appropriate? winked
      3. indy424
        indy424 6 February 2021 12: 52
        +2
        bullet mark may belong to the manufacturer. as far as I remember, in the workshop they shot once to show that the shot was holding
      4. Intruder
        Intruder 6 February 2021 14: 45
        +1
        she still stopped the bullet
        blunt-nosed, or spherical lead without a core !? With a subsonic speed of movement and a propellant charge on black powder ???
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 February 2021 15: 10
      +2
      There is only one option to create an exoskeleton under such protection on which all this will be attached and which accounts for all the kinetic effect of a large-caliber bullet. But unless, of course, Rostec does not come up with an energy-absorbing suit based on new physical principles.
      1. zenion
        zenion 7 February 2021 21: 27
        -1
        Wouldn't it be easier to push a cart of hay or straw in front of you? The bullet will get confused, will not know where to fly, stop, reflect and lie down to rest.
  • Sofa batyr
    Sofa batyr 6 February 2021 10: 56
    +3
    Quote: Narak-zempo
    How many laughed at Russian nanotechnology - but here it is, the result is quite material.

    Explain what place in development promising remedies occupy dwarftechnology ?
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 6 February 2021 13: 24
      +6
      Quote: Divan-batyr
      Explain what place nanotechnology occupies in the development of a promising protection tool?

      I explain.
      For polyethylene to become armor, it is necessary to provide a special crosslinking of molecules. Those. it differs from the one from which food bags are made, just at the nanoscale.
      Anyway, the properties of materials are hidden there, and if we want to improve them, this is already a task for nanotechnologists.
      As you can see, in Russia they did not receive funding for nothing, since domestic UHMWPE surpasses the best foreign analogues.
      1. zenion
        zenion 7 February 2021 21: 30
        -3
        Words are most suitable in this vest - there are no similar analogs anywhere, not even here. In addition, in order for the vest to work, it is necessary to spray it three times with holy water.
  • Avior
    Avior 6 February 2021 11: 40
    +7
    Actually, not yet a result, but only plans.
  • onstar9
    onstar9 10 February 2021 06: 07
    0
    Will the protesters have 50 caliber weapons?
  • DDZ57
    DDZ57 11 February 2021 09: 18
    +1
    [quote] How many laughed at Russian nanotechnology - but here it is, the result is quite material. / quote]

    The news of the article is described by V.S. Chernomyrdin. in his chernomyrdinkas.

    "We wanted the best, but it turned out as always."
    Or.
    "This never happened when I was born, and again the same thing."

    A relative of Besogon and others like him can only have one famous Russian product: Fecal, which they always want to turn into money by any means.
    When a durable point product that has 20 kJ (and not 20 kBucks) with it, what is behind this bulletproof vest turns into a blood chop, while the brains, which are almost gone, but which cannot distinguish kilo bucks from kilojoules, are shaken off.
    But they can do it:
    The exploits of Albert Bakov | Business | RUCOMPROMAT
    Albert Bakov - "Trojan horse" of "Rostec" "Compromising GROUP (compromat.group)
    Albert Bakov is the best "milkmaid" of Rostec - RUCRIMINAL Truth loves to act openly.
    1. DDZ57
      DDZ57 11 February 2021 09: 21
      +1
      Or that:

      http://www.moscow-post.su/politics/poligony_dlya_zabav_alberta_bakova34900/
      http://news3day.ru/obshhestvo/v-tsniitochmash-uvolyat-kazhdogo-pyatogo-sotrudnika.html
      A billionaire thief, a traitor or a two-in-one?
      https://rucriminal.info/ru/material/vor-na-milliardy-predatel-ili-dva-v-odnom

      What can these people do?
      After them, only ruins, as after the hostilities.
  • Bradley
    Bradley 6 February 2021 10: 52
    +8
    This is a lot of energy, what will happen to the body after the bullet stops? The heart will not stop from such a blow? Will it tear your lungs? And what will the ribs be?
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 6 February 2021 11: 03
      +6
      50 caliber in the article is for understanding what this product is
      1. Pike
        Pike 6 February 2021 11: 14
        +1
        It is impossible not to agree. It does not mean that "to attack the M2 Browning without even bending over", this is guaranteed protection against smaller caliber bullets.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 6 February 2021 14: 49
          +1
          This does not mean that "to attack the M2 Browning without even bending over", this is guaranteed protection against smaller caliber bullets.
          so it is in the article, directly written by the author:
          The equipment manufacturer promises breakthrough technology for making body armor that can withstand a 50-caliber bullet hit.
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 6 February 2021 22: 35
            0
            Quote: Intruder
            The equipment manufacturer promises a breakthrough technology for the manufacture of body armor that can withstand a 50-gauge bullet.

            actually why not? Do you know this thing?

            50 caliber by the way wink
            do you even know what a caliber is?
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 7 February 2021 05: 27
              0
              50 caliber by the way wink
              do you even know what a caliber is?
              in the course, but what has this "short barrel" with ammunition, in caliber: .50 AE PISTOL / 12.7x33 mm. ??? to caliber: .50 BMG (12,7x99m) !?
      2. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 6 February 2021 12: 01
        +3
        They have it 12,7x99
      3. zenion
        zenion 7 February 2021 21: 34
        0
        Do not worry and do not hit your opponent, there is no product yet. I remember in Chaplin's film The Great Dictator. His deputy called Hinkel to an inventor who invented the impenetrable vest made of spider hair. What won't break through? The inventor framed his chest. Hinkel fired, the inventor threw back his hooves. Hinkel - why are you distracting me with nonsense.
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 6 February 2021 14: 47
      +1
      The heart will not stop from such a blow? Will it tear your lungs? And what will the ribs be?
      just a liver with particles of bones and all this "in a puddle of ketchup" wink
  • saigon
    saigon 6 February 2021 11: 09
    0
    How to understand a 50 caliber bullet?
    In another article, it was indicated at 0 ", that is, 5 mm. Which is nevertheless closer to the truth.
    1. Couchexpert
      Couchexpert 6 February 2021 12: 19
      +6
      The closeness to the truth is equal. These are just different ways of classifying calibers: in the west, both metric designations (12,7 mm) and fractions of an inch (in this case, half (0,5) inches - 25,4 mm * 0,5 = 12,7 mmalso denoted as .50 cal., "50th caliber"). This refers to the cartridge from the Browning M2 HB 12,7 * 99-mm heavy machine gun.
    2. Simargl
      Simargl 6 February 2021 14: 49
      0
      Quote: saigon
      How to understand a 50 caliber bullet?
      Calibers measure, including, and hundredths of an inch. Those. 50 hundredths ...
  • Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 6 February 2021 11: 10
    +1
    Even if it does not hit, it will knock you down for sure.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 6 February 2021 11: 21
      +9
      The problem with knocking down is that the energy transfer process is faster. That is, first the organs go into mush, the lungs ruptured, and then on the flight. While they are able to dissipate up to 4 kJ. It is so confident and without much sophistication, but in heavy systems.

      50 caliber - 18 kJ.

      There is a trivial problem with the distribution of energy, there are not even questions about protection. Baking a ceramic plate from 12,7 is not a problem at all. And even in Russia. They are bolted to all kinds of armored vehicles and other protected vehicles.


      The variant that we see is a rigid exoskeleton that will take energy onto itself and fall. But if you put an exoskeleton, then the issues of protection against 12,7 disappear in general, because you can hang 80-90 kg of tiles on it. It is quite feasible, even today, even from serial and certified products.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 6 February 2021 11: 24
        +5
        And, if you "go" even further than exoskeletons, then .... "robot wars" ... yes
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 6 February 2021 14: 51
          +2
          Quote: Snail N9
          then .... "robot wars" ...
          It is already relevant. Further more.
      2. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 6 February 2021 12: 43
        +4
        The variant that we see is a rigid exoskeleton ..


        You need a force field right away ... laughing
      3. Intruder
        Intruder 6 February 2021 14: 56
        +2
        But if you put an exoskeleton, then the issues of protection from 12,7 disappear altogether, because you can hang 80-90 kg of tiles on it
        the epic hero will wear, plus everything else, and when in this mass, he will still fly under 18 kJ., pure kinetic energy wink plus a cart with batteries to power the exa drive !?
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  • Professor
    Professor 6 February 2021 11: 17
    +2
    The Centurion's armor will consist of lightweight polyethylene fiber and armor designed to withstand a direct shot from a .2 Browning M50.

    Promising doesn't mean getting married. A direct shot from a Browning M2 50 caliber at a distance of 1400 meters penetrates 19 mm rolled steel armor ...

    The armored body of the BTR-80 is made by welding from rolled sheets of homogeneous armor steel with a thickness from 5 to 9 mm.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 6 February 2021 13: 38
      +5
      Quote: Professor
      Promising doesn't mean getting married. A direct shot from a Browning M2 50 caliber at a distance of 1400 meters penetrates 19 mm of rolled steel armor

      Professor, this is a 7.7mm WC APM. It is unlikely that such cartridges are fired from a machine gun. And from a sniper rifle single at a distance of a kilometer ... Only at a fixed target. The bullet travels this distance for more than a second. A person can take a couple of steps ...
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 6 February 2021 14: 58
      0
      A direct shot from a Browning M2 50 caliber at a distance of 1400 meters penetrates 19 mm of rolled steel armor ...
      exactly bully , I wrote above, about this super-warrior in the "exoskeleton", who also drags a cart with an onboard power supply .... everything on him! laughing
      1. O-2-2
        O-2-2 6 February 2021 23: 38
        +2
        Transformers, definitely! Hang armor on the front of a car with five safety stars + exoskeleton! BMP for one! Heavy!
      2. lucul
        lucul 6 February 2021 23: 55
        -1
        just bully, I wrote above, about this super-warrior in the "exoskeleton", who also drags a cart with onboard power supply .... everything on him!

        I repeat, why did you all decide that the firing range would be no more than 10 meters? ))))
        There are different combat distances, it can fly at 100m, and maybe at 800m, this Browning M2 12.7mm shoots at 2 km. And with distance, the bullet loses energy. This time.
        Secondly, NATO members are going to switch to small arms with a caliber of 6.8 mm, because existing body armor already hold a bullet with a caliber of 5.56 mm. It was the insufficient penetration of the bullet that initiated the transition to 6.8 mm.
        And here the armor holds a 12.7mm bullet, and will withstand a 6.8mm bullet without any problems.
    3. lucul
      lucul 6 February 2021 23: 42
      -1
      Promising doesn't mean getting married. A direct shot from a Browning M2 50 caliber at a distance of 1400 meters penetrates 19 mm of rolled steel armor ...

      The armored body of the BTR-80 is made by welding from rolled sheets of homogeneous armored steel with a thickness of 5 to 9 mm.

      The angles of inclination of the armor have not yet been canceled)))
      1. Professor
        Professor 7 February 2021 09: 12
        +1
        Quote: lucul
        The angles of inclination of the armor have not yet been canceled)))

        If you are talking about BMP, then the corners there are funny and do not change the situation. If about body armor, then the penetration is calculated along the normal. However, as with the BMP.
        1. lucul
          lucul 7 February 2021 09: 15
          -2
          If you are talking about BMP, then the corners there are funny not changing the situation.

          About the BTR-80, if that.
          1. Professor
            Professor 7 February 2021 12: 42
            0
            Quote: lucul
            If you are talking about BMP, then the corners there are funny not changing the situation.

            About the BTR-80, if that.

            It doesn't help him. The armor is too thin.
  • Tusv
    Tusv 6 February 2021 11: 29
    -1
    Military medics are certainly not Gods, they do not return the dead to life, but they know how to correct several robers. Better ask the blockade military doctors. My grandmother had her favorites, which she sewed up three times, and the nemchura bombed hospitals in cleaner trenches, but Leningrad was not taken. Now ask if a bullet will stop a soldier in the Centurion
    1. O-2-2
      O-2-2 6 February 2021 23: 34
      +1
      What's this for ?!
      D. Yura is that you ?!
  • Graz
    Graz 6 February 2021 11: 49
    0
    I think the new equipment implies an exoskeleton. therefore, options with heavy protection are possible there
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 6 February 2021 12: 08
      +4
      Is it worth the candle? What will be the actual mobility of a soldier wearing an exoskeleton on the battlefield? Inertia? Ground pressure? Dimensions?
  • businessv
    businessv 6 February 2021 12: 02
    +4
    In the event of a 50-caliber bullet hit, a soldier is unlikely to be able to conduct hostilities, the publication sums up.
    Something I also doubt that a person could withstand such over-the-counter loads, no matter how unpatriotic it may look. 16000 joules = 163 154.594 Kilogram-force centimeter, according to the online calculator. Great energy!
  • Alex_You
    Alex_You 6 February 2021 12: 49
    +5
    Create a bulletproof vest that can withstand fifty dollars, but no question. Whether the host's intestines will withstand the energy is another matter. An old acquaintance in the 90s, during the storming of an apartment, was fired into the chest with a burst of AKM. The armor held out, but only said goodbye to the spleen woman and acquired the status of a disabled person.
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 6 February 2021 13: 34
      -14%
      Quote: Alex_You
      An old acquaintance in the 90s, during the storming of an apartment, was fired into the chest with a burst of AKM. The armor weathered yes, he just said goodbye to the silesian woman and acquired the status of a disabled person.

      By the way, the real disadvantage of such funds is economic.
      Saving a life is terribly humane, of course. But even in battle, three hundredths mean the distraction of healthy soldiers for transportation, and the need for treatment.
      And in a peaceful life, a disabled person pulls money from the state, and also shakes his rights, like he lost his health for his homeland.
      The XNUMXs are less demanding in this regard. Well, put a monument there, name a couple of streets - and then not to everyone, but only to those who distinguished themselves.
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 6 February 2021 14: 59
      +1
      An old acquaintance in the 90s, during the storming of an apartment, was fired into the chest with a burst of AKM. The armor withstood, but only said goodbye to the spleen woman and acquired the status of a disabled person.
      7,62x39, more than 4,5 times less energy than .50 !?
  • Wolf
    Wolf 6 February 2021 12: 52
    0
    Kinetic energy kills, and the pool just transfers it. Right hit zpr. 2-3 bullets as in A 745 7,62mm in "one" dirk in the chest and ........ ??? It's like not hitting the pool. , and A 545 only in 5,45 and 7,62mm caliber, it is a pity that they did not try Grendel in 6,5mm caliber, it is only for special strength, and the grain ballistics 6,5mm x 39 Grendel is much better and 7,62 and 5,45mm. With such a bullet, you can freely shoot from the A 545 as a sniper at 500m and 3 bullets in 1 dirk. smile
  • 113262a
    113262a 6 February 2021 13: 01
    +6
    Saw a blindfold after being hit by a bullet from NSVT. Bronik saved the liver from flying over a long distance))) By the way, there was a woman-sniper. First, a tree was stitched, behind which I tried to hide, then an armor and another tree 5 meters away.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 6 February 2021 15: 06
      +2
      By the way, there was a woman-sniper.

      I hope they hung it on this tree later?
      1. 113262a
        113262a 7 February 2021 00: 18
        +2
        And the point is that it smelled in brilliant green on a drawstring for a week, the non-brothers did not manage to pick it up - OSCE officials with volunteers, but ours from the middlemen shoveled on a stretcher with shovels. And the sappers and I were allowed to go ahead. How to unsee this now?
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 7 February 2021 09: 40
          0
          Were you covered with mortars, as usual in WWII?
          1. 113262a
            113262a 7 February 2021 10: 39
            +1
            No, they drove 64b and zhahnul from the anti-aircraft gun.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 7 February 2021 13: 32
              0
              And, so the initial blindness - this woman was! And at first I didn't understand, I thought about who she killed with a large-caliber rifle.
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 6 February 2021 13: 03
    +4
    Particular attention is drawn to the new developed body armor capable of stopping a 50-caliber bullet.
    Well, it is very doubtful, even if there is no penetration, which is hard to believe (not at all), then what to do with enormous kinetic energy? is she herself transformed into something useful? it's like a pedestrian gets knocked down by a car at high speed, here breaking is not necessary
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 6 February 2021 14: 00
      0
      Absolutely.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 6 February 2021 20: 06
      +4
      Quote: _Ugene_
      what to do with huge kinetic energy?

      Create other "body armor"! They are also sometimes called exoskeletons!
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 6 February 2021 20: 08
        +1
        these are no longer bulletproof vests, but walking armored vehicles
    3. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 7 February 2021 00: 07
      +2
      then what to do with huge kinetic energy?


      What does huge mean? When fired, the recoil energy is equal to the energy of the bullet.

      The shooter's insides remain intact. And the shoulder does not tear off completely.

      It all depends on the area of ​​impact of energy. It is clear that there are nozzles on the barrel that reduce recoil, the butt area also dissipates, but the bullet also loses some of its energy in flight.

      If they can make an armor that distributes energy over the entire surface area and retains its shape, then no insides will turn into minced meat.
      The difficult if remains. In the meantime, part of the energy penetrates the armor in a concentrated form and does its dirty work. If you manage to distribute it evenly, then the impact on the target will be equivalent to damage from recoil to the shooter.

      Let them dare. The road will be mastered by the walking one.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 7 February 2021 11: 49
        0
        Quote: Podvodnik
        What does huge mean? When fired, the recoil energy is equal to the energy of the bullet.

        You are stubbornly broadcasting complete nonsense! The recoil energy of the bullet is not equal.
        Why?
        First, the mass of the machine gun is not equal to the mass of the bullet. Otherwise, the machine gun would move at the same speed as the bullet, but in the opposite direction. But that doesn't happen. It did not occur to me - why?))
        Second, the muzzle brake compensates for a significant part of the energy.
        Third, part of the energy is consumed by the gas outlet pipe, a small gas outlet works as a pneumatic resistance.
        Fourth, part of the energy is consumed by the shutter (its mass) and the return spring, otherwise the automation would simply not work.
        Couch experts, damn it .. laughing
        1. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik 7 February 2021 23: 31
          +1
          The recoil energy of the bullet is not equal.
          Why?


          Indeed, why? The propellant charge emits propellant gases during combustion. They press with equal force both on the bottom of the bullet, pushing it forward, and on the bottom of the cartridge case, pushing it back together with the weapon. The force of action is equal to the force of reaction. Have you heard about the conservation of momentum? Take a physics textbook and brush up on your school knowledge. The machine gun will move in the opposite direction at a speed inversely proportional to the mass of the "bullet-machine gun".

          Couch experts, damn it ..

          I specifically explain that if a bullet weighing 50 grams flies out of the barrel at a speed of 800 meters per second, then a machine gun weighing 15 kg will "fly" in the other direction at a speed 15000/50 = 300 times less than a bullet. More details: 800m / s / 300 we get 2,6 meters per second. Naturally in "normal conditions". Or have you discovered some new laws in physics?

          You are stubbornly broadcasting complete nonsense!


          I broadcast the laws of physics that operate in our world. I am very sorry that you did not bother to carefully read my comments and grasp the meaning they contain.
          1. Al_lexx
            Al_lexx 8 February 2021 00: 02
            -1
            Quote: Podvodnik
            I broadcast the laws of physics that operate in our world. I am very sorry that you did not bother to carefully read my comments and grasp the meaning they contain.

            You broadcast outright stupidity, completely not understanding the essence of the issue and those real laws that work in this regard.
            I carefully read the nonsense that you are talking about here. Apparently, you completely lack knowledge in the field of theoretical mechanics and thermo / gas dynamics. I have a higher technical education (MAI), real experience of firing from this machine gun, as well as development / creation of various internal combustion engines with my own hands (which implies a certain amount of knowledge).
            Well, it is quite obvious that you saw the DShK only in the pictures. Once again, on the fingers, for the "gifted". Stupidly, two or three shots from a KOLT 911 45 caliber (11.43mm) first stops a person running at you, and then throws them back. At the same time, the KOLT 911, in comparison with the DShK, is like a mosquito in comparison with a crossbow arrow.
            In any case, to teach you is to descend to your own level, a kind of wikipedia expedition, with an education in eight grades.
      2. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 7 February 2021 23: 18
        +2
        If they can make an armor that distributes energy over the entire surface area and retains its shape, then no insides will turn into minced meat.

        even "if" there is no penetration, then 15 kJ kin. energy is guaranteed internal bleeding and internal injuries, if you are very lucky, you will remain disabled for life, if not, then you will die from these injuries
        1. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 8 February 2021 00: 08
          +1
          Quote: _Ugene_
          even "if" there is no penetration, then 15 kJ kin. energy is guaranteed internal bleeding and internal injuries, if you are very lucky, you will remain disabled for life, if not, then you will die from these injuries

          So. hi
          Considering that DShK easily sews most APCs / BMPs, etc. lightly armored vehicles from a distance of 1,5-2 km, hitting a person will be comparable to hitting a steam hammer. What difference does it make if he pierced the chest plate of the armor or not, if in the end this plate stuck to the "back"? But some schoolchildren who know the multiplication table and Newton's law cannot be explained.
  • Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 6 February 2021 13: 59
    +2
    "In the event of a 50-caliber bullet hit, a soldier is unlikely to be able to conduct hostilities," sums up the publication.
    .
    No options. It is possible and able to save lives, purely hypothetically and in some rare cases (hit on a tangent, at the end, etc.). But the fact that a fighter will permanently receive a serious injury and be out of action for a long time is definitely (!). You can't argue against the laws of physics. Whatever the protection, if only it is not a heavy exoskeleton that makes a walking tank out of an infantryman (which today is from the field of economic fiction), the energy of a 12mm bullet is such that neither the density nor the body weight of an infantryman is enough to endure such a hit without heavy consequences. Fractures, contusion, trauma to internal organs (internal hemorrhage), etc., severe injuries are inevitable.
    Another question is that if such armor cannot be penetrated by a fiftieth caliber, then it should protect very well from light rifle.
    1. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 7 February 2021 00: 18
      -3
      that neither the density nor the mass of the infantryman's body is enough to endure such a hit without serious consequences.


      You're wrong. Mass and density are sufficient. Recoil energy when fired (take simplified conditions) is equal to the energy of the bullet. The shooter doesn't die from a shot, does he? And it doesn't fly back a couple of meters like in a movie. As I already pointed out, it all depends on the area of ​​the energy impact. If they can distribute it with the help of an armor on the entire chest, for example, the target will remain unaffected.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 7 February 2021 11: 41
        -1
        Quote: Podvodnik
        Mass and density are sufficient.
        Quote: Podvodnik
        Recoil energy when fired (take simplified conditions) is equal to the energy of the bullet.

        You yourself understood what you wrote? Have you ever fired this machine gun? Have you seen its impact not on YouTube, but in real life?
        Do not write nonsense about what you did not hold in your hands and have no idea how it works. You look, you will pass for a smart one. wink
  • voronkin
    voronkin 6 February 2021 15: 35
    +1
    Will the new Russian body armor stop a 50-caliber bullet?

    It will stop, of course, but only the minced meat will be from a soldier, and the armor is whole .. Wipe out and hand over to the new fighter .. (black joke, of course, but)
    1. agond
      agond 6 February 2021 17: 33
      -1
      And if you count the blow of the bullet on the cuirass, the bullet is 15,36 g, the speed is 844 m / s, the online calculator gives 5345 J, comparable to the blow of the knight's spear on the cuirass in the tournament knight 60 kg + horse 400 kg + weapon 5 kg + armor 50 kg = 516 kg, the riders jump to meet each other, so let's take the approach speed of 20 m / s, the calculator gives 51.600J, of course the comparison is not correct, but still the spear blows were not weak and the knights remained alive at the same time
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 6 February 2021 19: 31
        +3
        the comparison is incorrect, there is only a small part of this kin. energy fell on the blow, firstly the knights and then after the blow they jumped in different directions (those most of the kin en just passed by), secondly, the spear is not rigidly fixed in the structure but is held by a hand that is mobile and only a small part is transmitted to the blow, in the third spears most often broke from impact, and in tournaments they broke specifically for greater entertainment and less injury
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 February 2021 18: 24
    -2
    Quote: YOUR
    The warrior is not only a 6B45 body armor which can be of 5 and 6 classes and a 6B47 helmet, the equipment includes more than a dozen items (unloading, tent, headphones, knife, ....... knee pads). Unfortunately, it enters the troops in small quantities. And now they were going to change it without supplying even 1/3 of the army with Ratnik. So there will always be something new, but the fighters, as they ran in 6B2, will carry it around.

    Are you against more sophisticated? Here I remember the first control cabinets in the years so the 95s is something laughing
  • meandr51
    meandr51 6 February 2021 22: 56
    -1
    In principle, if it is possible to distribute the energy of a bullet 12,7 in 20 kJ over the entire area of ​​the body, then it can only overturn, like a blow from the horns of a ram. The Mythbusters fired from Barrett at the hanging pig carcass - it only swayed a little. There is a boar hunt. Animals don't jerk at all, they just fall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPFd_xO97oA
    1. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 7 February 2021 00: 23
      -2
      if you manage to distribute the energy


      You are absolutely right.
  • Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 6 February 2021 23: 38
    +1
    In general, when a bullet of this caliber hits, a soldier is not unlikely, but will not be able to conduct hostilities for sure.
    Ballistic strike, and interesting things like that from a forensic textbook.

    Although it looks interesting, and I think it will be a promising development of Russian technology))
  • English tarantas
    English tarantas 7 February 2021 05: 27
    +1
    that can withstand a 50 caliber bullet hit

    It is not clear why. There is such a list of things that will not be done by 25, I don’t believe, but after this opus, even more so. Now the armor is holding 7,62, I can understand that, the safety factor for smaller cartridges. But no more is needed, the fighter will never stand a greater number and quality of hits.
  • Mustachioed Georgian
    Mustachioed Georgian 7 February 2021 08: 59
    +1

    For some reason, the Germans refused such an adaptation, it probably hurt the head.
  • Maxwrx
    Maxwrx 9 February 2021 00: 28
    0
    I remember 15 years ago, everyone laughed at the Americans with their bulletproof vests against a 7,62x39 bullet. Armored bullet action will kill everyone! But statistics showed a sharp increase in the survival rate of soldiers.
    + against smaller calibers, survivability will increase even more
    For example, IOTV (body armor) can withstand damage from simple (not armor-piercing) rifle bullets of 7,62 × 54 mm and 7,62 × 51 mm cartridges with steel and carbide cores.
    1. agond
      agond 9 February 2021 12: 26
      -1
      As for the knights, yes, the comparison is highly incorrect, but
      1 in combat copies of the second half of the 3th and up to the end of the 3.5th centuries. the shaft, on average, had a length of 7.5 - 8 m, the maximum thickness of the shaft at the grip point was 3 - 3.5 cm, the minimum at the hub was 4 - XNUMX cm, and the weight was about XNUMX kg.
      2, both in the tournament and in the war, the spears really broke, and the knights sometimes remained alive, !!!
      and now let's ask ourselves the question from what height should the spear be thrown so that it would break from hitting the asphalt?