The reason for the interruption of the test flight of the Il-114-300 in the Moscow region is named

February 5 2021 43

It became known about the situation with the testing of the Il-114-300 aircraft. In the reports from the Zhukovsky airfield, it is stated that the test flight had to be interrupted at one of its stages.

Information Service Interfax with reference to the press service of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) reports on the reason for the interruption of the test flight of a new Russian aircraft in the suburbs.

The messages say that during the flight the oil temperature sensor was triggered in one of the IL-114-300 engines. There was nothing critical. However, the crew, guided by the directives, decided to land.

Representatives of the UAC note that the landing of the aircraft at the Zhukovsky airfield took place in a normal mode.

In general, during test flights, such situations are quite commonplace and typical for testing a variety of airliners. Therefore, the very presentation of information by individual resources that "an emergency landing was made near Moscow" does not stand up to criticism.

For reference: IL-114-300 is equipped with turboprop engines from "UEC-Klimov". These are power plants TV7-117ST-01. They allow the aircraft to move at a cruising speed of about 500 km / h. The flight range with full load is up to 1,5 thousand km. Ceiling - 7600 m. The plane can carry up to 70 passengers.

The first test flight of this aircraft took place in December last year. The tests continued in 2021. Serial deliveries to customers are expected in about 2 years.

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Mountain shooter

+40

5 February 2021 16: 04

A common case ... Trials. For that and testing ...
1. credo
  
  +17
  
  5 February 2021 16: 37
  
  Quote: Mountain Shooter
  A common case ... Trials. For that and testing ...
  
  I don’t know whether it’s good or bad when such "news" from the manufacturer itself is reported on any occasion.
  Indeed, in the world, probably, every day some new products are tested, but not every manufacturer reports on the defects that have appeared, considering them either insignificant or optional for publication. Take at least the same F-35 or the latest model of the civilian Boeing, about which design (equipment) flaws were not reported during the tests.
  Maybe it was not worth the management of the UAC rushing to announce the reasons for the interruption of the flight, so as not to create an excuse for competitors once again pointing out the "bad Russian plane".
  Tests exist in order to eliminate the problems and issues that have arisen during their implementation, so that they can then be put into series.
  1. Mountain shooter
    
    +11
    
    5 February 2021 17: 58
    
    Quote: credo
    Maybe it was not worth the management of the UAC rushing to announce the reasons for the interruption of the flight, so as not to create an excuse for competitors once again pointing out the "bad Russian plane".
    
    In contrast to "democratic" countries, in which for the disclosure of confidential information you can get a considerable fine, at least ... Our fried fact will be merged instantly. That, probably, the press service of the UAC took it as a rule. Do not hide anything, and publish before any plum ...
  2. YOUR
    
    +1
    
    6 February 2021 12: 48
    
    This is also not clear to me. Quite an ordinary case. And not a failure, but a sensor triggering. Why post this?
2. venik
  
  +13
  
  5 February 2021 19: 08
  
  Quote: Mountain Shooter
  A common case ... Trials. For that and testing ...
  
  ========
  I’ll even tell you more: at one time (back in the days of the USSR), there even existed such joke"If tests the new techniques (especially aviation!) go through "without a hitch" - it HURTS: it means that something is "WRONG""!
  1. Wolf
    
    +2
    
    6 February 2021 13: 24
    
    Namely Broom. There is no manufacturer in the world who will not have childhood diseases on a new aircraft. Even a new car model. There is nothing to hide here and why.
  2. Mikle2000
    
    -9
    
    6 February 2021 13: 38
    
    Well, what a new technique. A glider from the 80s. The engine also draws its history from time immemorial.
3. Rzzz
  
  0
  
  11 February 2021 22: 14
  
  Not ordinary. Such failures must be eliminated even during bench tests. On an airplane in a test flight, the engine must be completely serviceable and completely ready.
Boa kaa

+5

5 February 2021 16: 10

It is a matter of everyday life and during tests it is even possible: triggering of the oil temperature sensor in the engine ... The question is different: the reason !? Either it is a dross, or is it a sabotage as on the leader of "Tashkent" at one time ...
Speaking of sabotage. In 2007 it became known (the stamp was removed) that at the ZKHI TAKR "Minsk" (the second building of pr.1143), instead of water, KEROSIN was poured into fire extinguishers !!! Now you can imagine what would happen if (God forbid!) Such a fire extinguisher would be used to extinguish a fire in some kind of fan baffle ...
Therefore, you need to check everything a hundred times, right down to the screw!
AHA.
1. faiver
  
  +3
  
  5 February 2021 16: 20
  
  KEROSINE was poured into fire extinguishers instead of water
  - and you can ask why?
  1. Dodikson
    
    0
    
    5 February 2021 16: 28
    
    sabotage ........
2. evgen1221
  
  +10
  
  5 February 2021 16: 34
  
  Something like the next perestroika-Yeltsin myth is similar to this bike - it is at the factory that they make fire extinguishers on a conveyor belt.
3. akarfoxhound
  
  +17
  
  5 February 2021 17: 42
  
  Do not build intrigues from scratch, it is still an aircraft power plant, and not a motor from a ground auto-drum. And a test flight. Thank God, after the Sea of Okhotsk, the D-30F6 also drove the chips, got up, Rita was screaming in a voice that was not her own, the engine was under factory warranty, so what? Sabotage ??? How many decades has it been produced?
  In the 80s, in the fighter regiment MiGar 23rd, they burned from an airfield fire: summer, heat, landing without a brake parachute (failure), braking with pneumatics, red-hot wheels. So that refractory plugs do not shoot during such an unplanned landing, after lowering the wheels, they are poured with water. And the "groundmen", having conceived to comunicate kerosene, poured it into AAshka, a full tank. From the engineering PU they call a fire brigade to the taxiing board, water the chassis from the sleeve, a fire occurs. We barely managed to roll out the neighboring sides.
  Well? Spies or dolbaks after all?
  1. Boa kaa
    
    +9
    
    5 February 2021 19: 24
    
    Quote: akarfoxhound
    Thank God, after the Sea of Okhotsk, D-30F6 also drove the shavings, got up, Rita screamed in a voice that was not her own,
    
    Colleague, I also had a chance to hear WHAT the ZKF "talked" about the core-based aviation, when the dvigun drove the shavings on his turntable ... Thank God, then everything worked out ... But after landing on the deck, he drank from a glass like water, even without washing it down!
    Quote: akarfoxhound
    Spies or dolbaks after all?
    In these cases, they are clearly not SPIES ... But on the "Tashkent", a cardboard tube was inserted into the oil line of the main engine, which was squeezed out by oil pressure at full speed, and it closed the opening of the inlet pipe ... , but in battle, with an air raid - the destroyer would have a scribe!
    And one more question: And which of the "smart guys" thought of pouring 152/2 of trifluorotrichloroethane (solvent! POISON !!!) into LOH K-3 instead of freon 114V-2 ... And that was already in 2008! The result is 20 lives ...
    Therefore, as my good friend used to say: “You don’t need to help me serve. The main thing is not to interfere. And I myself will make mistakes - enough to understand for everyone!
    1. akarfoxhound
      
      +4
      
      5 February 2021 20: 44
      
      It is clear with Tashkent, imported radishes - no options, but to be honest, I don’t know what LOKH K-152 is. But I met in the army both the Soviet and the present especially gifted ones who consumed dichloroethane under various circumstances, who confused it with alcohol, who else with something, having sipped, rinsed a mug of "liquid", etc., 2 drops are enough for the herd. Already in civilian life, 2 years ago, while working in the management of the regional airport, bypassing the "possessions", I came across an old dilapidated chemical protection warehouse. There, among the smashed and rotten boxes with gas masks, tents, RHBZ devices, and so on. Xenia found decontamination glass flasks in this poison, just like that everywhere, on the shelves and underfoot. Barely persuaded the insane civilian authorities that it was not a toy, he called the Ministry of Emergency Situations for export. Our Russian slovenliness - no enemies!
      1. Boa kaa
        
        +4
        
        5 February 2021 22: 30
        
        Quote: akarfoxhound
        Our Russian sloppiness - no enemies!
        
        I agree, there is.
        Quote: akarfoxhound
        what is LOKH K-152, to be honest, I don’t know, I haven’t met
        
        This is a boat fire extinguishing system. (Boat volumetric chemical fire extinguishing system). And the incident happened on the K-152 submarine Nerpa (Indian Chakra) at 20.30 Moscow time, 08.11.2008/1/XNUMX, the commander of the guards. kXNUMXr. Lavrentyev D.B.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      
      +3
      
      6 February 2021 07: 18
      
      "awl" .. Not "alcohol". So a northerner.)
      1. Boa kaa
        
        +3
        
        6 February 2021 12: 07
        
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        "awl" .. Not "alcohol". So a northerner.)
        
        AHA.
        
        Andrei Nikolaevich
        
        +2
        
        6 February 2021 12: 49
        
        Ours to you, respect.) And like, a submariner. Respect, doubly!
    3. Flex
      
      +1
      
      7 February 2021 11: 27
      
      Amendment - not freon, but Freon 114 в2 ---- I remember in my first year I got a question on the exam
  2. Alipes
    
    0
    
    9 February 2021 09: 12
    
    Bend, brother, you turned off the engine yourself.
    1. akarfoxhound
      
      0
      
      9 February 2021 12: 14
      
      What have mother's galoshes got to do with it? This is a kind of drawing in knowledge, comrade, an unexpected relative, that such an engine, even if not for long, but works ??
      Nothing in the aftermath does not go crazy, spit on the mansion, even if it goes on with a fire? Those. driving the chips with an overshoot of the temperature of the SU - is it a working SU and can you continue to cut from Dzemg to Uglovka with a full gas station and suspension? What a fine fellow you are!
      1. Alipes
        
        0
        
        9 February 2021 14: 28
        
        Here is your text: "D-30F6 drove the shavings, stood up." They wrote to you that you turned off the engine yourself, in response, you start to breed a flood.
        
        akarfoxhound
        
        0
        
        9 February 2021 19: 01
        
        For the Airplane Flight Manual were you annoyed? take a pie - it's yours!
        Who else would talk about verbiage?
        From your "thoughtful amendment" the meaning of the article discussed in the topic and the information I conveyed to the representative of the fleet for the Boa for some reason did not change, don't you think?
4. Undecim
  
  +6
  
  5 February 2021 17: 53
  
  Speaking of sabotage. In 2007 it became known (the stamp was removed) that at the ZKHI TAKR "Minsk" (the second building of pr.1143), instead of water, KEROSIN was poured into fire extinguishers !!! Now you can imagine what would happen if (God forbid!) Such a fire extinguisher would be used to extinguish a fire in some kind of fan baffle ...
  A link to some document is possible, where did you get this "sensation"?
  If you pour kerosene into a classic OHP fire extinguisher, nothing will happen. In OCP, foam is formed by the interaction of an alkali solution and an acid. If, instead of water, alkali is poured into kerosene, an emulsion is formed. Someone wrote nonsense.
  1. Boa kaa
    
    +1
    
    5 February 2021 22: 36
    
    Quote: Undecim
    A link to some document is possible, where did you get this "sensation"?
    A colleague, unfortunately, did not record the source, but the fact itself is well remembered. In my opinion, A. Timokhin even had it in the material about aircraft-carrying cruisers ... it is possible that Mina or someone else from our naval ships.
    Sincerely, Boa.
    1. Undecim
      
      +6
      
      5 February 2021 23: 14
      
      In those days, PO-1 could be used as a foaming agent in air-foam fire extinguishers, which is 90 percent of the so-called Petrov's kerosene contact.
      It is a high molecular weight monosulfonic acids obtained by sulfonation (treatment with sulfuric acid) of petroleum distillates (wastes from the production of gasoline and kerosene from oil).
      Apparently, someone far from the topic, without understanding, "revealed sabotage."
      If purely theoretically, can you imagine what kind of agent network should be at a secure enterprise in order to ensure that "charged" fire extinguishers hit the ship?
5. Piramidon
  
  +3
  
  5 February 2021 19: 38
  
  Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
  KEROSIN was poured into fire extinguishers instead of water !!!
  
  What kind of fire extinguishers are filled with water? Moreover, ships and aircraft are equipped with carbon dioxide. So, most likely - nonsense.
  1. mlad
    
    +1
    
    5 February 2021 20: 42
    
    The most common foaming agents PO-1 and PO-6. The composition of foaming agent PO-1 includes: kerosene extract - 84%, bone glue - 4 5%, ethyl alcohol - 11% and caustic soda - 0 5%; in the composition of the foaming agent PO-6 - whole blood 100 kg, caustic soda - 4 5 kg, sulfuric acid - 20 kg, iron sulfate - 10 kg, sodium fluoride - 4 kg. [nine]
    1. Piramidon
      
      0
      
      5 February 2021 22: 23
      
      Quote: mlad
      The most common foaming agents PO-1 and PO-6. The composition of foaming agent PO-1 includes: kerosene extract - 84%, bone glue - 4 5%, ethyl alcohol - 11% and caustic soda - 0 5%; in the composition of the foaming agent PO-6 - whole blood 100 kg, caustic soda - 4 5 kg, sulfuric acid - 20 kg, iron sulfate - 10 kg, sodium fluoride - 4 kg. [nine]
      
      As far as I understand, foaming agents are a mixture that is added to the tanks of fire engines, and not what fire extinguishers are filled with. And, it seems, such compositions are not used to extinguish energized power grids. And how did I write "boa constrictor KAA"
      at ZKHI TAKR "Minsk" (second building of project 1143) into fire extinguishers instead of water they poured KEROSINE
6. Rzzz
  
  0
  
  11 February 2021 22: 29
  
  Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
  KEROSIN was poured into fire extinguishers instead of water !!!
  
  Are they pouring water into some fire extinguishers?
  No, I know which ones, but I have never dealt with such. These are air-foam fire extinguishers. Water with a foaming agent is poured there. Do you know the composition of the foaming agent? Mainly kerosene as a film former and strong alkali, usually NaOH.
  So that's it. From a long hovering in a stationary position, the liquid in the fire extinguisher stratifies, and guess what will float from above?
evgen1221

+3

5 February 2021 16: 32

Perhaps a software glitch, or there were some production particles in the oil. It's good that it flies already!
1. D16
  
  0
  
  5 February 2021 16: 40
  
  Perhaps a software glitch, or there were particles of production in the oil.
  
  What kind of shavings should there be to fuck up the oil cooling system?
  IMHO the sensor is buggy.
  1. Piramidon
    
    0
    
    5 February 2021 19: 47
    
    Quote: D16
    What kind of shavings should there be to fuck up the oil cooling system?
    
    Surely evgen1221 (eugene) confused the oil temperature measuring system with the "chips in oil" alarm system, which are independent of each other.
  2. akarfoxhound
    
    +2
    
    5 February 2021 20: 49
    
    In an aircraft engine, with an unnoticed factory microdefect, this process occurs at a count of 3! When the technicians of the engines "disassembled" me, the shavings on the filter bristled the size of a hedgehog's needle, and also thickly. To be honest, the view is impressive.
    1. D16
      
      +1
      
      5 February 2021 21: 46
      
      In an aircraft engine, with an unnoticed factory microdefect, this process occurs at a count of 3!
      
      Well, so it would have happened on the first or second flight. It seems to me that after the first flights of the filter should be examined under a microscope.
  3. dauria
    
    0
    
    5 February 2021 23: 14
    
    IMHO the sensor is buggy.
    
    The Mogochinsky crew of the Mi-6 (in '87, not exactly) pulled like this. Rita - "Low oil pressure", then "shavings in the main gearbox compartment", then six coffins. So much for the "sensor is buggy"
Dimide

+2

5 February 2021 17: 04

Better keep it out
Nevertheless, the tests are designed to identify and correct shortcomings and errors.
businessv

+1

5 February 2021 17: 51

Serial deliveries to customers are expected in about 2 years.
God grant that it was!
Mikle2000

-5

5 February 2021 23: 37

Tests and tests. But IMHO the whole project is somehow rotten. Characteristics of the AN-24 in the 21st century, the market of insignificant capacity (only Russian). In general, it looks more like a saw cut than a project that has a chance of life.
Vitas

+1

6 February 2021 06: 55

Here is the future electric motor for IL-114 doing.
1. Mikle2000
  
  0
  
  6 February 2021 11: 48
  
  It remains to understand where they will get electricity for him
Evil 55

0

6 February 2021 13: 31

Yes, this is not news, but an ordinary situation ...