Space explorers have no time to rest: Roscosmos told how cosmonauts are trained

Roscosmos told how they prepare future cosmonauts for flights. The duration of the preparatory program is two years.

Such data in the form of infographics were published today by the press service of the state corporation.

The two-year program is designed for 4085 hours. It seems that the future conquerors of space have no time to rest, because during the two years of preparation for vacation they are given only 520 hours, that is, less than 22 days.

At the end of the training, cadets must pass final exams, for which 40 hours are allotted.

In the near future, four new candidates are to begin general space training. At the end of last month, the Interdepartmental Commission recommended that the Cosmonaut Training Center enroll them in the space detachment. These lucky ones who passed the open competition were Sergey Irtuganov, Harutyun Kiviryan, Alexander Kolyabin and Sergey Teteryatnikov. As in the previous recruitment, there were no girls among the candidates.

Among other things, future cosmonauts will undergo a survival course after landing if they cannot be quickly evacuated. After all, a spacecraft can land anywhere on our planet, including in a deserted impassable area where wild animals live.

Comments

[novel66]

one of the cosmonauts, not having learned the lessons, caught poop at the station ... but then as he knew it !! ACS specialist called

[Lech from Android.]

And I wish good luck and success to future astronauts.

[Alien From]

I join you! Good luck guys!)

[slipped]

Cosmonauts Oleg Artemiev and Dmitry Petelin are practicing extravehicular activity skills in the hydro laboratory of the CTC:

[mojohed2012]

The preparation is serious, but against the background of stupid and empty shouts about the "trampoline" and the lack of modern developments in the field of technology in this area, somehow everything is sadder and sadder.
The world is moving towards recoverable stages of missiles, or even entire ships without their combustion in the atmosphere, and we still make ships one way ...
There were, after all, initiatives to develop the Spiral, and Buran, and the intention to launch from the side of a flying heavy aircraft, but where is it all?
Only Rogozin's tales, and his empty mockery of other people's experiences - that's all we have.
We fly to the ISS somehow - yes, we launch satellites - too, but the United States buys engines from us - and then more often and massively exploit space.

[lis-ik]

Quote: mojohed2012

empty cries about "trampoline" and the lack of modern developments in the field of technology in this area, somehow more and more sad.

And who will develop? Moreover, the task of development is not worth it. They pumped out all the profit from Soviet developments, and then set the clown to tell tales for internal use.

[mojohed2012]

I totally agree.

[Lexus]

If you can't make money, you can always "saw" it, imitating a stormy activity - this is the principle of temporary thimblers. The main thing is to share "with whom it is necessary".

Shot and fragment from the movie "Treasure Island" (1988)

[slipped]

Quote: mojohed2012

the absence of modern developments in the field of technology in this area, somehow more and more sad.

Oh, one more saddened one

And "modern developments in this field of technology" are.

Quote: mojohed2012

The world is moving towards recoverable stages of missiles, or even entire ships without their combustion in the atmosphere, and we still make ships one way ...

Apparently, everyone on the ISS is buried right there ?!

Quote: mojohed2012

There were, after all, initiatives to develop the Spiral, and Buran, and the intention to launch from the side of a flying heavy aircraft, but where is it all?

IN THE USSR. It turned out to be unprofitable.

Quote: mojohed2012

We fly to the ISS somehow - that's still yes,

As we flew and we fly, and on new ships.

Quote: mojohed2012

we launch satellites - too,

Wow, we're also launching satellites, “Wow. Space Force. It's the plane of today! ” © Jane Psaki

Quote: mojohed2012

but, the United States buying engines from us - and even then more often and massively exploit space.

The Herods are crushing the masses!

[akropin]

If you haven't read it, I recommend a blog about space https://zelenyikot.livejournal.com/

[slipped]

Quote: akropin

If you haven't read it, I recommend a blog about space https://zelenyikot.livejournal.com/

Are you suggesting to me a blogger to read? Well, well.

[akropin]

There is no glamor, only accessible facts and sound analysis

[slipped]

Quote: akropin

There is no glamor, only accessible facts and sound analysis

Yes, I do not mind, let him analyze. I remember his Yeltsin foundation promoted.

[Cosm22]

The return of the first stages of the launch vehicle is an overwhelming task for Russia today.
On the existing Soviet line of liquid-propellant rocket engines (and there is nothing else in fact, except for some "modernization" and "modifications"), it is impossible to make a propulsive landing of the first stage. Basically.
Even Rogozin understands this.
Therefore, all talk about reusability comes down to either a parachute method, or landing in an airplane way. There is no other way.
Amur-LNG was conceived to be reusable. But to say is not to do. And for the execution of a reusable concept, it is necessary to create an essentially new engine. Not to modernize the Soviet prototype once again, but to make a fundamentally new one. Moreover, not necessarily methane. There are kerosene stoves on the Falcon at Musk. But with this, as can be seen from the implementation of the Amur project, the Republic of Kazakhstan is progressing slowly.
It is clear that a lot needs to be done. We need to build a new engine. We need to get away from multi-chamber. It is necessary to achieve acceptable values ​​of throttling parameters. It is necessary to completely revise the architecture of the first stage and change its lower cut. In short, you need to do something. New.
But it is much calmer for the RK to work according to the old drawings. Pull the same "Angara" into the light by the ear.

[slipped]

Quote: Cosm22

But with this, as can be seen from the implementation of the Amur project, the Republic of Kazakhstan is progressing slowly.

Where can you see? I can see that the KBKhA tested the gas generator and mixing head of the RD-0177 methane engine prototype according to the Amur-LNG design and development project last year.

Within a year, they will assemble a ready-made prototype and start testing it. The engine itself will be ready by the time the Progress RCC makes the tanks for this rocket. Now the RCC is tightly occupied with Soyuz-5.

[Cosm22]

I can see this because RD-0177 does not exist in nature.
From your "they will collect ... they will do ... they will conduct tests ... it will be ready ..." and then, according to the list of future tense (there are apparently no other verbs in your vocabulary), the engine is neither hot nor cold.
There is no engine. For first you need to make it a demonstrator. Then build a flight modification, in this case we are talking about RD-0169. As for the finished RD-0177, its first sample (key word) will be ready even according to the director of NPO Energomash Arbuzov not earlier than 2022-2023. You can estimate the real date of birth, taking into account the shift of dates to the right, which is already traditional for Kazakhstan. And not by one unit.
How tightly is Progress busy with Soyuz-5? How is it going? Really managed to reincarnate Zenith? Overpower this overwhelming task? I would be very surprised. Yes, that's just noticed long ago: a replica, a duplicate is always worse than the original. But the main question is - are people busy with this? Perhaps all efforts should be focused only on the Amur-LNG project? For this is the only at least something new and progressive that Roskosmos voiced.
The Samara people, of course, are great. They do at least something, and it is only thanks to them that Russia still holds the third place in terms of launches. And the Soyuz-5 project is seen as much more promising than the long-suffering Angara. But the diseases are the same. The main thing is the same abundance of cooperation.
Engines - NPO Energia and KB KBKhA from Voronezh, LV design - RCC "Progress" in Samara, RB "Fregat" - from NPO Lavochkin, ground infrastructure and launches from TsENKI. Oil painting. The speed of creation of the entire product will be the same
I'm not talking about reusability, this is unnecessary, it is excluded a priori.
And even without it, the already announced design characteristics of the Soyuz-5 are inferior in almost all parameters to Musk's nine.

[slipped]

Quote: Cosm22

I can see this because RD-0177 does not exist in nature.

This year they will. As previously made and burned 40-ton methane RD-0162D2A.

Quote: Cosm22

From your "they will collect ... they will do ... they will conduct tests ... it will be ready ..." and then, according to the list of future tense (there are apparently no other verbs in your vocabulary), the engine is neither hot nor cold.

They already do that. Now. Don't you get it?

Quote: Cosm22

There is no engine. For first you need to make it a demonstrator.

This is the demonstrator. RD-0162D2A was also a demonstrator. We have a whole program for creating methane engines.

Quote: Cosm22

Then build a flight modification, in this case we are talking about RD-0169. As for the finished RD-0177, its first sample (key word) will be ready even according to the director of NPO Energomash Arbuzov no earlier than 2022-2023.

So I also say they will do it within a year, then the tests will begin.

Quote: Cosm22

You can estimate the real date of birth, taking into account the shift of dates to the right, which is already traditional for Kazakhstan. And not by one unit.

There is no "right shift".

Quote: Cosm22

How tightly is Progress busy with Soyuz-5? How is it going?

The tanks were welded together with the engine for dynamic testing. What?

Quote: Cosm22

Really managed to reincarnate Zenith?

The Soyuz-5 launch vehicle is not Zenit. The rocket is much more powerful, the diameter of the tanks, the second stage engine and the control system are different. The production technology too.

Quote: Cosm22

I would be very surprised.

Apparently you still have a lot to wonder here.

Quote: Cosm22

But the main question is - are people busy with this? Perhaps all efforts should be focused only on the Amur-LNG project? For this is the only at least something new and progressive that was announced by Roskosmos.

The Soyuz-5 LV is being created for the Baiterek complex. The ROC "Amur-LNG" does not suffer from this.

Quote: Cosm22

And the Soyuz-5 project is seen as much more promising than the long-suffering Angara.

These are various missile systems of different weight categories.

Quote: Cosm22

The speed of creation of the entire product will be the same

The first launch is in 2023.

Quote: Cosm22

I'm not talking about reusability, this is unnecessary, it is excluded a priori.

She is not needed there.

Quote: Cosm22

And even without it, the already announced design characteristics of the Soyuz-5 are inferior in almost all parameters to Musk's nine.

The Soyuz-5 launch vehicle is a middle-class missile, not a heavy one like the F9. But it can replace the heavy one at launches at the GPO.

[Cosm22]

Here's one thing I can't understand, Mr. Opponent ...
Are you singing these eulogies to Roscosmos at the behest of your soul or out of duty? Are purely mercantile interests involved here?
Why are you telling me all these elementary truths? TO ME???
Yes, I’m at the moment of any of your so-called arguments roll into dust. Any. For I am a fan of Russian space sincerely, and therefore I am interested in all new products and the state of affairs. That is why I don’t shout “everything is fine, beautiful marquise!” I don’t hide my head in the sand. Therefore, at least here I am pointing out the obvious miscalculations and mistakes of the RK, and not throwing hats at the ceiling. In the hope of somehow attracting someone's attention. In light of this, which of us is the greatest patriot of Russia?
I will not answer. The level of discussion is so low that it is more interesting for me to speak with a student.
I can only say one thing.
Your tactics are extremely flawed.
After all, and one thought! Not a single one! Long sheets due to the opponent's citation, a bunch of photos, videos ... Why? Even if the task is to divert the conversation aside, to blabber the topic - you cannot even cope with this.
Here a colleague gave you a very good description - a talking manual. You can't say more precisely. A banal set of words, a dull style, common facts, a very modest vocabulary ...
It's not yours. Or learn more materiel, or change the subject. It will be difficult for you with me.
You can, of course, complain to the moderators, ask them to block. Also a way out. But very dubious.

[slipped]

Quote: Cosm22

Here's one thing I can't understand, Mr. Opponent ...
Are you singing these eulogies to Roscosmos at the behest of your soul or out of duty? Are purely mercantile interests involved here?

If I see xp .... nonsense in the comments on a topic of interest to me, and I know that this is nonsense, I usually say it as it really is. Don't you understand this?

Quote: Cosm22

Why are you telling me all these elementary truths? TO ME???

So you ask questions, and I answer. Another thing is that you don't like my answers, because they do not coincide with your virtuality and you are nervous.

Quote: Cosm22

Yes, I’m at the moment of any of your so-called arguments roll into dust. Any.

"Hold me seven!" © not mine

Quote: Cosm22

After all, and only one thought! Not a single one! Long sheets by quoting an opponent, a bunch of photos, videos ...

Apparently, it is the latter that drives you out of yourself.

Quote: Cosm22

It will be difficult for you with me.

Don't worry, I will always correct you on drifts.

Quote: Cosm22

You can, of course, complain to the moderators, ask them to block. Also a way out. But very dubious.

Denunciation? What else is there for you? This is normal for your content, how to drink water, do not hesitate.

[carstorm 11]

In fact, the spiral was buried precisely because of the snowstorm.

[slipped]

Quote: carstorm 11

In fact, the spiral was buried precisely because of the snowstorm.

The spiral - as a spacecraft, was planned as the safest winged spacecraft for the cosmonaut. It had a complete rescue system. Only the apparatus itself would be single and highly specialized.

[Knell wardenheart]

Let me add a fly in the ointment!
The "conquerors of space" have been conquering him on earth's orbit for 60 years, and even if this is a difficult, destructive and heroic business, but are the gusli vigorous? It was cool and fun for the first 2, well, 10 years of space activity. And now it is no longer fun, like the fortieth anecdote heard.

[kit88]

And what, someone in the world is already flying beyond the ISS?

[mojohed2012]

There is also something in this, too, although many will not like your idea.
Of course, the training of cosmonauts is the preparation of personnel for the presence in orbit. In fact it is. And if this is interrupted, then we will not be in orbit at all. And the specifics of the gas environment, temperature and orientation require spending money and time so that a person can work there.
On the other hand, it would be much more interesting if at least one of the countries that have access to space at the level of delivery of cosmonauts and spacecraft modules, thought about it and created at least a prototype of a spacecraft with reusable engines, which could take off on its own without rocket stages, and also return to the cosmodrome. And only refueling, and restoration of the integrity of the thermal protection would be needed.
That would be a breakthrough. But these are still dreams ...

[mojohed2012]

I even feel sorry for the cosmonauts. Let it be 2 flights after training, but these two times they will be in zero gravity under the penetrating rays of radiation, in unusual conditions.

[Cosm22]

Actually, Musk is about that.

[akropin]

Those. Doesn't it confuse you that a person can become a neurosurgeon after 13 years of training? )

[Knell wardenheart]

A neurosurgeon saves the lives of completely different people in completely different ways in completely different situations. And here people hang out in a bucket around the planet endlessly chewing experiments, for the most part repeating the first 30 years of such activity. Where is the conquest of space? In fact, there is less and less heroic in their activities, apart from the actual training, precisely because of the reinforced concrete run-in of the process itself. I understand if these crews flew to Venus or Mars or, at worst, would sit around the lunar base - and so there are about as many adventures as children in a sandbox.

[Cat]

If it's not a secret, I would like to know the content of 335 hours of humanitarian training. What is this?

As in the previous recruitment, there were no girls among the candidates.

But this is sad .. That is boring.

[Blackmokona]

I think these are languages, etiquette, culture and other things necessary for communication with astronauts of other nations.

[Cat]

etiquette

335 hours of etiquette? In which hand on the CC to hold the fork, and in which cutlet? It should be understood that the candidates were not recruited in wild mountain villages.

[slipped]

Quote: Gato

If it's not a secret, I would like to know the content of 335 hours of humanitarian training. What is this?

Lessons. Learning languages, communication in a team, etc.

Quote: Gato

But this is sad .. That is boring.

There is one girl in the detachment, the former radio host Anna Kikina. By the way, she is a hydraulic engineer by education.

Her flight into space should take place next year.

[mojohed2012]

Probably, when landing on a foreign territory, this is the knowledge of the basics of languages, the procedure for such a situation with the peculiarities of the legislation of the countries of the proposed landing. Also - the ethics of communication with astronauts from other countries on the ISS and so on.

[slipped]

Training of cosmonauts from a new set in the IL-76MDK laboratory in zero gravity flight:

[sergo1914]

... survival course after landing in case of impossibility of their quick evacuation.

What for? Any citizen of the Russian Federation can survive on the territory of the Russian Federation. And if he can get hold of the barrel, then make some money.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: sergo1914

Any citizen of the Russian Federation can survive on the territory of the Russian Federation.

They can also land in Africa. But most likely, in the dense taiga.

Quote: sergo1914

And if he can get hold of the barrel, then make some money.

And the cosmonauts have nothing to shoot back with, except that again Makarka is shoved into NAZ.

[Kuroneko]

Roscosmos, explain to me, I’m ignorant, why on your circular infographics, the vacation sector (520 hours) is for some reason less than the same sector of the basics of cosmonautics (466 hours). = _ = And not only him. The recreation sector must be the largest, and, accordingly, other sectors must shrink.
Some kind of alternative geometry? Or, as always, make the picture more attractive and meaningful?

[Sands Careers General]

Serious preparation, whatever you say.

[evgen1221]

And the imperishable Rogozin is not forced to sing in chorus?))) A joke like.

[slipped]

Meanwhile, at Baikonur, the Soyuz MS-18 spacecraft was tested in an anechoic chamber:

After that, the ship was installed in the dynamic stand of the assembly and test building to continue the prelaunch preparation.

[kovpak]

I read somewhere that the program for the selection and training of our cosmonauts is the best in the world! They prepare a universal specialist, ready for the most extreme situations in space, and on earth, too, for an emergency landing

[slipped]

Quote: kovpak

ready for the most extreme situations in space, and on earth, too, for an emergency landing

Well yes, something like that :

[kovpak]

Quote: slipped

Well yes, something like that

I hate these amerskih spiders and super-heroes, which the minds of our children are stuffed in all the media .. "ours" ..
Real stories about survivability would show ingenuity, as before in Soviet films and cartoons, fairy tales, etc. .. Here were real scenarios of how and what to do in stressful situations (friendship, composure and courage) Children were taught correctly then.

[slipped]

Quote: kovpak

Realistic survival stories

In the USSR, there were practically no films about real astronauts, there were not very truthful about the creators of the rockets, more truthful about the life of the testers of these rockets, but about the cosmonauts there was only one film "Return from Orbit" with Solomin in the title role and that's it. Yes, there the story was just about survival, but the presentation ... the tarkovism is straightforward. So, what came to hand then posted.