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Representative of the Trilateral Contact Group from Ukraine: "The Russian President is preparing to expand the ORDLO-LDNR"

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Attention is drawn to the fact that Ukraine is once again beginning to escalate the situation around Donbass, as well as to the increasing number of provocations by the Ukrainian security forces. All this may indicate that Kiev is trying to "monitor" the possible reaction of the new US administration in case of its own steps to aggravate the situation along the line of demarcation. At the same time, traditionally, the Ukrainian side begins by trying to lay the blame on Russia.


Serhiy Garmash, representing Ukraine in the TCG (Trilateral Contact Group on the Settlement in Donbass), said that "a more decisive position on the part of the United States will help the situation." In fact, the Ukrainian representatives in the above-mentioned group make it clear that special hopes are pinned on Biden. And Biden some time ago, speaking to State Department officials, said that he would "make Russia pay."

Garmash:

Political issues cannot be resolved through the Minsk agreements. We do not see Russia's desire to resolve the conflict peacefully.

According to the Ukrainian side, the Russian president "is preparing to expand the ORDLO-LDNR."

Recall that in Ukraine, the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics are called “separate areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions” - ORDLO.

According to Garmash:

Putin is going to implement the Abkhazian scenario.

For many years now, Kiev has been trying to link its open unwillingness to end the war against its own population in Donbas with the "position of Russia." When Ukrainian officials are asked about Russia in general, they claim that it is with Russia that Ukraine is waging a war today. To the question of why, in this case, martial law has not been introduced in Ukraine and general mobilization has not been declared, the Ukrainian elites traditionally have no answer. Usually they try to explain by the fact that there will be problems with loans from the IMF.
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  1. Siberian 66
    Siberian 66 5 February 2021 08: 27
    +14
    This war makes political and financial capital. It is beneficial to certain structures and specific individuals. Therefore, everything is there for a long time. And precisely in such a sluggish stage. Therefore, the periodic "escalation and exacerbation" is just so that it is not forgotten.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 5 February 2021 08: 42
      +2
      Quote: Sibiryak 66
      This war makes political and financial capital. It is beneficial to certain structures and specific individuals. therefore everything is there for a long time.

      At least - while it is beneficial to the Americans. Because in what is happening on the outskirts, the main customer and beneficiary is the United States.

      And then the "grandpa" supported
      Biden some time ago, speaking to State Department officials, said that he would "make Russia pay"
      Skakuasa fell out of reality, so the word "pay" is understood literally, in dollars. And from this they have even more joy.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 5 February 2021 08: 51
        0
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Skakuasa fell out of reality, so the word "pay" is understood literally,

        They think that something will break off laughing
        Igor, hi
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 5 February 2021 09: 09
          +7
          Ukrainian representatives in the above-mentioned group make it clear that special hopes are pinned on Biden.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 February 2021 08: 45
      +3
      Representative of the Trilateral Contact Group from Ukraine: "The Russian President is preparing to expand the ORDLO-LDNR"

      How do they know? Do they smell it? Is Chuyka ripe?

      This time, let the "chuyka" not let them down yes .

      1. Terenin
        Terenin 5 February 2021 08: 53
        +4
        Quote: Insurgent
        Representative of the Trilateral Contact Group from Ukraine: "The Russian President is preparing to expand the ORDLO-LDNR"

        How do they know? Do they smell it? Is Chuyka ripe?

        This time, let the "chuyka" not let them down yes .


        What do you want from them request if these representatives of Ukraine, from the very beginning of the work of the contact group, do not read the documents, but sniff them.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 5 February 2021 08: 55
        +2
        Quote: Insurgent
        This time, let the "chuyka" not let them down

        Will not let you down lol
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 February 2021 09: 02
          +1
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: Insurgent
          This time, let the "chuyka" not let them down

          Will not let you down lol


          It's like in that joke where the bear sowed hemp, and the hare got into the habit of mowing it ...
          Well, he made a slanting bear on the plantation and while he was enthusiastically mowing the grass, he loaded it between his ears ...

          A hare fell off its hooves, and after a while, having regained consciousness a little, lies and thinks: " Not a fig for myself grass, I have not smoked yet, and so it pokes !!! It is necessary to mow! yes "
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 5 February 2021 09: 09
            -3
            Quote: Insurgent
            It's like in that joke

            So this video from the cartoon about that anecdote smile
      3. Boris55
        Boris55 5 February 2021 09: 06
        +5
        Quote: Insurgent
        How do they know?

        They don't know but they hope laughing

        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 February 2021 09: 08
          +15
          Quote: Boris55

          They don't know but they hope

          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 5 February 2021 10: 38
            +3
            "That's it, the invaders are back again"
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 February 2021 10: 43
              +4
              Quote: Lipchanin
              "That's it, the invaders are back again"

              So me too,occupant yes Without boasting, I will write that once returning from dismissal, on the way to the bus I picked up a someone else's a bottle 0,5 from under the drink and carried it to the urn ...
              Occupant, in his own home yes
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 5 February 2021 10: 50
                -1
                Quote: Insurgent
                Occupant, in his own home

                Well, according to the logic of Banderlog
              2. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 5 February 2021 12: 32
                0
                Quote: Insurgent
                Quote: Lipchanin
                "That's it, the invaders are back again"

                So me too,occupant yes Without boasting, I will write that once returning from dismissal, on the way to the bus I picked up a someone else's a bottle 0,5 from under the drink and carried it to the urn ...
                Occupant, in his own home yes

                This is done only by "real occupiers". Even in "own home". smile

                The owners don't behave like that. Before my eyes, about 20 years ago in Germany, a Pole (later understood from the conversation) threw a cigarette butt on the sidewalk. And I must say that for us washing the sidewalks with shampoo was also exotic then, but I never threw cigarette butts under my feet - not then, not now. So the "Boss" - the German acted "like a master" - went up to the policeman and complained to him about that Pole. The policeman made the Pole pick up his cigarette butt and throw it into the trash can.

                They act as a "master". And you and I are so-so ... You are "occupiers on your own land", we "illegally own territory and resources rightfully belonging to American transnational corporations" ... request
    3. Clear
      Clear 5 February 2021 10: 55
      +3
      Quote: Siberian 66
      This war makes political and financial capital. It is beneficial to certain structures and specific individuals. Therefore, everything is there for a long time. And precisely in such a sluggish stage. Therefore, the periodic "escalation and exacerbation" is just so that it is not forgotten.

      It is clear to everyone who benefits from military conflicts.
      The population always loses in a war, like both active participants in the conflict. External agents never lose in indirect contact, which are not even visible in the war itself.
    4. Rubi0
      Rubi0 5 February 2021 11: 16
      +2
      It will not be stopped because if it is finished then the reason for all sorts of bans on Russian films, books on TV channels and culture in general will disappear. No one needs an ordlo in Ukraine, the goal is cultural division
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 5 February 2021 08: 28
    +7
    ... When Ukrainian officials are asked about Russia in general, they claim that it is with Russia that Ukraine is waging a war today. To the question of why, in this case, martial law has not been introduced in Ukraine and general mobilization has not been declared, the Ukrainian elites traditionally have no answer.

    They are waging a war with Russia and for one thing, the Russian Federation is the third economic partner!
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 5 February 2021 08: 40
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      Waging war with Russia

      About this from all the irons
      RF is the third economic partner!

      About this mouth shut
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 5 February 2021 08: 49
        +5
        Quote: Lipchanin
        About this mouth shut

        So we do not advertise that we supply oil products to Ukraine, but about the fact that Old Man supplies solar oil for Ukrainian tanks - from every iron!
        But seriously, there are enough beneficiaries in this war, both for us and for them. Oligarchs, so they are changed.
      2. Dym71
        Dym71 5 February 2021 09: 03
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        RF is the third economic partner!
        About this mouth shut

        But why lock? They write in Ukropress that the trade turnover decreases annually, an emphasis is placed on this, this is enough for Russophobes, the rest understands the failure of the ukrovlast.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 5 February 2021 09: 10
          0
          Quote: Dym71
          They write in ukropress that the trade turnover decreases annually,

          Well, this is a different iron, for the chosen Banderlog
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 5 February 2021 10: 18
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      They are waging a war with Russia and for one thing, the Russian Federation is the third economic partner!

      This is from the same series as -
      Let the neighbor devour, otherwise I have nothing to shit under your door.
      Well, everything is clear with them. without our support there will very quickly come an economic collapse and, consequently, a collapse of power, but our political "businessmen" are difficult to understand, because the financial support of the junta leads to an increase in anti-Russian rhetoric. The sooner Russia applies economic and political euthanasia to the junta, the more chances that more adequate politicians will come to power there.
      I wonder if Russia curtails economic contacts with Ukraine, how soon will the US impose sanctions and require the "aggressor" to restore trade contacts with the "victim"?
      1. Scharnhorst
        Scharnhorst 5 February 2021 13: 02
        +2
        I like the way you think! Two days ago I read that Ukraine has again started buying electricity from the Russian Federation with a lack of its own generation during peak hours. And we could be glad that the enemies pay us, but here's the price of the question: 1 MW / h costs 1500 rubles (1 kW / h costs 1,5 rubles)! In Crimea, I pay 3,41 rubles per kW, my mother in the Tver region, 4,95 rubles per kW. Something is not very beneficial to the war for our people - maybe it's time to end the war with a victory or cut the wires?
        1. Alexander Seklitsky
          Alexander Seklitsky 5 February 2021 16: 33
          -2
          1,5 rubles is wholesale by power lines. During transportation and transformation to the final consumer, losses are inevitable, but various distribution companies also want to live on something. In Siberia, 2.56 kopecks per kW
  3. Terenin
    Terenin 5 February 2021 08: 28
    +3
    Representative of the Trilateral Contact Group from Ukraine: "The Russian President is preparing to expand the ORDLO-LDNR"
    It is high time. Tired of this Bandera rudeness growing into outright fascism.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 5 February 2021 08: 41
      0
      Quote: Terenin
      growing into outright fascism

      It has long been outgrown
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 5 February 2021 08: 49
        +3
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: Terenin
        growing into outright fascism

        It has long been outgrown

        Sergey, that's what I say
        Quote: Terenin
        It's time.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 5 February 2021 08: 58
          -1
          Quote: Terenin
          Sergey, that's what I say
          Quote: Terenin
          It's time.

          No really. Let yourself
          As littered, so let them clean up
          Neighbors don't come to me to wash the floors and take out the garbage
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 5 February 2021 09: 04
            +2
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: Terenin
            Sergey, that's what I say
            Quote: Terenin
            It's time.

            No really. Let yourself
            As littered, so let them clean up
            Neighbors don't come to me to wash the floors and take out the garbage

            Rubbish is okay. But, the lads are calling for replacing Russian nuclear fuel for nuclear power plants with an American one, preparing territories for its further disposal (Russia is exporting its spent fuel).
            What do you think, closer to which border they will do it? Really with Poland?
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 5 February 2021 09: 15
              -1
              Quote: Terenin
              What do you think, closer to which border they will do it?

              Well, this is understandable to the lame
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 February 2021 08: 40
    +2
    You have to understand that Ukraine is not independent in its actions ... They will throw troops under fire ... The problems of the Sheriff's Indians are not ... worried. So they prepare "public opinion" in advance. Maybe the order has already been received?
    1. Victor Chernenko
      Victor Chernenko 5 February 2021 08: 51
      0
      Telegram TV channels are protected under this. War is coming soon.
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 5 February 2021 08: 52
      0
      Throw troops under fire ...

      Where you saw the troops there, these are gangs of gopniks. hi
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 5 February 2021 09: 08
        -1
        Quote: Ros 56
        Where you saw the troops there, these are gangs of gopniks.

        Well gang, I agree. But with weapons ... I don't feel sorry for them ... they deserve their "godfathers" ...
        I feel sorry for those who may die from the LPNR side while this gang is being hacked ...
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 5 February 2021 09: 15
          +1
          Dialectics, nobody canceled it. Life is a struggle between good and evil. The main thing here is to be a man.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 5 February 2021 09: 16
        -1
        Quote: Ros 56
        these are gangs of gopniks.

        But still dangerous
        With your meanness
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 5 February 2021 08: 56
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      You have to understand that Ukraine is not independent in its actions ... They will throw troops under fire ... The problems of the Sheriff's Indians are not ... worried. So they prepare "public opinion" in advance. Maybe the order has already been received?

      This is obvious even to the blind and not only in Ukraine.
      By the way, Grandma Merkel has not been seen for a month. Has her fantasy run out?
      1. Clear
        Clear 5 February 2021 10: 39
        +3
        Quote: Terenin
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        You have to understand that Ukraine is not independent in its actions ... They will throw troops under fire ... The problems of the Sheriff's Indians are not ... worried. So they prepare "public opinion" in advance. Maybe the order has already been received?


        By the way, Grandma Merkel has not been seen for a month. Has her fantasy run out?

        So it is necessary to find Merkel's husband, Joachim Sauer, and he will explain everything yes
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 February 2021 08: 49
    -1
    Stupid Banderlog, it's Donbass preparing to take control YOUR PRIMORDIAL land. And Russia ....., Russia will simply help, just as the West helps pots.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 5 February 2021 10: 03
      +2
      As long as this nonsense continues, this war will not end. We need to declare some of the territories we really claim to be Russia. And defend them with a military hand. There is no other way out if we do not want these lands to continue to be a bleeding wound on the body of the country. Not a perfect solution, it will have consequences, but there is no better solution. Is that to seize the whole of Ukraine, and then for years to put thousands of hopeless Banderites against the wall.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 5 February 2021 10: 42
        +1
        Quote: Mikhail3
        and then for years to put thousands of hopeless Banderites against the wall.

        Until 1947, Bandera and other accomplices of the Nazis were hanged, and in 1947 Stalin abolished the death penalty, and instead of the gallows, they began to put them in prison for 25 years. Why, one wonders? Maybe they would bring at least some benefit before they die? Although Stalin did not expect that Khrushch would give them an indiscriminate amnesty.
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 5 February 2021 11: 12
          +1
          What's the point in remembering mistakes? What has been done has already been done. And the roots of Banderism cannot be pulled out. I already wrote that the whole of Ukraine is the result of the settlement of fertile lands by those who cannot get along with normal neighbors. Usually such people as tumbleweeds on the ground carry, but the lands of Ukraine are so fertile ... These people hate us, as any geek hates normal people. Set them up in the United States, and they will hate Americans ...
  6. sergo1914
    sergo1914 5 February 2021 08: 50
    0
    How do they manage to get around like that by this time? Friday has just begun.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 5 February 2021 09: 00
      +2
      Quote: sergo1914
      How do they manage to get around like that by this time? Friday has just begun.

      In Ukraine, unlike Russia, the climate is warmer, and there are more sunny days. Here the hemp ripens.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 5 February 2021 09: 08
        0
        Quote: Nagan
        In Ukraine, unlike Russia, the climate is warmer, and there are more sunny days. Here the hemp ripens.

        Nagan, and in the state where you live, you can probably use it legally? bully
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 5 February 2021 09: 16
          +5
          Quote: Dym71
          Nagan, and in the state where you live, you can probably use it legally?

          Yes, you can. And I don't like the tendency. They used to be imprisoned for this, and for a long time. Then the terms were reduced. Then it was generally replaced by socially useful labor. Then they allowed it on a doctor's prescription. Recently they were allowed just because they wanted to. If he goes further in this direction, then smoking weed will be obligatory. Because the shitcrats have such a logic that, without a smoke, they cannot understand.
          1. Clear
            Clear 5 February 2021 10: 42
            +3
            Quote: Nagan
            Quote: Dym71
            Nagan, and in the state where you live, you can probably use it legally?

            Yes, you can. And I don't like the tendency. They used to be imprisoned for this, and for a long time. Then the terms were reduced. Then it was generally replaced by socially useful labor. Then they allowed it on a doctor's prescription. Recently they were allowed just because they wanted to. If he goes further in this direction, then smoking weed will be obligatory. Because the shitcrats have such a logic that, without a smoke, they cannot understand.

            Greetings hi
            How clearly you have shown the action of the "Overton window" yes
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 February 2021 09: 22
      +4
      Quote: sergo1914
      How do they manage to get around like that by this time? Friday has just begun.


      The calendar is special, and the time zone is the same.

      Ves pokryit promezhnostyu, absolyutno ves.
      Ostrov nezalezhnosti v okeane est.
      Tam zhivut neschastnyie ukrodikari.
      Na litso svobodnyie, no rabyi vnutri:
      Chto oni ne delayut, ne idut dela.
      Vidno v vyishivanke ih mama rodila.
      Na Banderu molyatsya, ne zhaleya slYoz.
      Krokodil zakonchilsya, ne vstavlyaet koks.
      Vrode tse Evropa i mogli byi zhit
      Vyishivanku Leninu novuyu poshit.
      Netu v hate sveta, v pechke net uglya.
      Na Maydane sotnya pogibala zrya.
      Pa-pa-pa-pa-po takomu sluchayu s booked do zari
      Zhgut pokryishki v Kieve ukrodikari,
      Skachut i ryidayut i klyanut "** uylo"
      V den kakoy nevedomo *** kalyam nazlo.)
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 5 February 2021 09: 33
        +1
        Quote: Insurgent
        Quote: sergo1914
        How do they manage to get around like that by this time? Friday has just begun.


        The calendar is special, and the time zone is the same.

        Ves pokryit promezhnostyu, absolyutno ves.
        Ostrov nezalezhnosti v okeane est.
        Tam zhivut neschastnyie ukrodikari.
        Na litso svobodnyie, no rabyi vnutri:
        Chto oni ne delayut, ne idut dela.
        Vidno v vyishivanke ih mama rodila.
        Na Banderu molyatsya, ne zhaleya slYoz.
        Krokodil zakonchilsya, ne vstavlyaet koks.
        Vrode tse Evropa i mogli byi zhit
        Vyishivanku Leninu novuyu poshit.
        Netu v hate sveta, v pechke net uglya.
        Na Maydane sotnya pogibala zrya.
        Pa-pa-pa-pa-po takomu sluchayu s booked do zari
        Zhgut pokryishki v Kieve ukrodikari,
        Skachut i ryidayut i klyanut "** uylo"
        V den kakoy nevedomo *** kalyam nazlo.)


        Right now, snatch the warning. Yesterday I came across a hyphenated spelling of the name of a Japanese city.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 February 2021 09: 39
          0
          Quote: sergo1914
          Right now, snatch the warning.

          Yes, right there ... Just something tenth (nine on the account), and Goodbye my love, goodbye yes

          All the more so grasp into the meaning and content of the comment, where there is nothing reprehensible, no one will.

          Quote: sergo1914
          Yesterday I came across a hyphenated spelling of the name of a Japanese city.


          Really for this belay

          Yokó (Japanese 横須賀 市 Yokosuka-shi)
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 5 February 2021 11: 25
            +1
            Quote: Insurgent
            Quote: sergo1914
            Right now, snatch the warning.

            Yes, right there ... Just something tenth (nine on the account), and Goodbye my love, goodbye yes

            All the more so grasp into the meaning and content of the comment, where there is nothing reprehensible, no one will.

            Quote: sergo1914
            Yesterday I came across a hyphenated spelling of the name of a Japanese city.


            Really for this belay

            Yokó (Japanese 横須賀 市 Yokosuka-shi)


            Yes. And added a signature below. Paul McCartney.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 February 2021 11: 31
              0
              Quote: sergo1914
              Yes. And added a signature below. Paul McCartney.


              In vain did McCartney subscribe ... Yoko Ono was Lennon's wife ...
              1. sergo1914
                sergo1914 5 February 2021 12: 28
                +1
                Quote: Insurgent
                Quote: sergo1914
                Yes. And added a signature below. Paul McCartney.


                In vain did McCartney subscribe ... Yoko Ono was Lennon's wife ...


                She ruined the Beatles. The attitude of all the other members of the group (especially Paul) towards her ... is ambiguous.
  7. askort154
    askort154 5 February 2021 08: 54
    0
    With the return of the Democrats to US power, their "hawkish" habits will completely switch to Russia. They will be worn with a "can of gasoline" around the entire perimeter of Russia. The hottest point will be Ukraine.
    The Democrats did not light a fire here to extinguish it.
  8. Svetlana
    Svetlana 5 February 2021 09: 08
    0
    His words would be yes to God in the ears.
  9. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 5 February 2021 09: 58
    +1
    When asked why, in this case, martial law was not introduced in Ukraine and general mobilization was not declared, the Ukrainian elites traditionally have no answer. Usually they try to explain by the fact that there will be problems with loans from the IMF.
    Maybe this is because then Russia will get a legitimate reason to immediately bomb some buildings on Bankova Street? And destroy so much more that could be easily razed to the ground? Hehe ...
  10. cheburator
    cheburator 5 February 2021 11: 14
    0
    Or maybe it's a cold war laughing
    We are Russians! God with us!
  11. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 5 February 2021 17: 27
    +2
    Recall that in Ukraine, the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics are called “separate areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions” - ORDLO.

    Apparently the time is coming when it is necessary to transform them into a full-fledged republic of Novorossiya, adding to them other regions, donated by the Bolsheviks / Communists out of stupidity to some Ukraine. And the actual concept of Ukraine was wrongfully appropriated to this territory. hi
  12. kovpak
    kovpak 5 February 2021 18: 36
    -3
    Donbass is no longer Ukrainian! Forget banderlogs .. You threw the Chinese for a large sum, but they don’t like to talk .. So prepare the caches, but rather run to Canada, etc.
  13. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 6 February 2021 11: 25
    0
    The funny thing is that the Americans themselves were "for" the federalization of Ukraine.