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Details of a major accident at the Zaporozhye TPP are being discussed in Ukraine

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Due to the accident at the Zaporizhzhya TPP in the capital of power engineers of Ukraine, the city of Energodar, and the nearby settlements, electricity was lost. In addition, the water supply was cut off. This happened at about half past seven in the evening on February 3.


In Ukraine, the details of the accident at the Zaporozhye TPP were revealed. There is also a video from the scene, published by Ukrainian media, showing a fire at a power plant, which, according to the video's title, was preceded by an explosion.


The mayor of Energodar, Dmitry Orlov, said on his Facebook page that as a result of the accident, all four power units of the Zaporizhzhya TPP were disconnected, which left the city without electricity. But after half an hour, the power supply began to recover, as two of the four power units were launched. By 22.00, the mayor reported on the social network that the problems with electricity had been eliminated almost one hundred percent.

As the head of the Zaporizhzhya Regional State Administration Alexander Starukh said on his Facebook, it was possible to restore the city's electricity supply by connecting backup lines.

There is little information about the causes of the accident, but one of the station's employees told reporters that shortly before the accident, “valves were rustling for a long time”.

It can be assumed that accidents at energy facilities in Ukraine will become more frequent due to significant wear and tear of equipment and the outflow of specialists, many of whom have left to live and work in Russia.


Zaporizhzhya TPP is part of DTEK, a company owned by a major Ukrainian entrepreneur Rinat Akhmetov. It is considered the largest heating plant in Ukraine.
Photos used:
https://www.facebook.com/elizaveta.rigerkhavroshina, dtek.com/ru
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  1. Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 4 February 2021 16: 11
    +23
    The shed and the hut burned down.
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 4 February 2021 17: 42
      +9
      One word - Ruin!
      1. hirurg
        hirurg 4 February 2021 21: 43
        +10
        It's only the beginning. I'm afraid of accidents at nuclear power plants.
  2. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 4 February 2021 16: 12
    +17
    One Chernobyl is enough for us ... I really fear the experiments of Ukrainian nuclear scientists with fuel for nuclear power plants. What to expect from them is unknown!
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 4 February 2021 16: 17
      -6
      .In Ukraine, they are discussing the details of a major accident at the Zaporizhzhya TPP

      We are talking about thermal power plants, that is, about a thermal power plant. What does the nuclear power plant have to do with it, that is, nuclear power plants and Chernobyl?
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 4 February 2021 16: 31
        +45
        Everything related to power generation in Ukraine ultimately rests on nuclear power plants. An accident at a TPP - accordingly, gives an increase in the load on nuclear power plants, for which a sharp decrease or increase in loads is Critical!
        The largest nuclear power plant in Europe is located in Zaporozhye.
        1. Cananecat
          Cananecat 4 February 2021 17: 29
          0
          An accident at a TPP - accordingly, gives an increase in the load on nuclear power plants, for which a sharp decrease or increase in loads is Critical!

          Undeniably, but in my opinion the key phrase "belongs to Rinat Akhmetov," we must look at what else he has in his assets, including in Novorossiya. And is this not a harbinger of a grandiose nix in the Donbass.
        2. dmmyak40
          dmmyak40 4 February 2021 20: 25
          +1
          And why is the increase critical? A nuclear power plant is not a thermal power plant, not a hydroelectric power station: it cannot sharply increase or decrease production. At peak hours, NPPs have no problems, but at night they do. To solve this problem, a pair of nuclear power plants with accumulating hydroelectric power plants was designed in the USSR.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 4 February 2021 21: 44
        +5
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        .In Ukraine, they are discussing the details of a major accident at the Zaporizhzhya TPP

        We are talking about thermal power plants, that is, about a thermal power plant. What does the nuclear power plant have to do with it, that is, nuclear power plants and Chernobyl?

        So that would be yes, but there is such a situevina that you don't know where it comes from. Even though thermal power plants, even nuclear power plants, even hydroelectric power plants, they are all in a pre-emergency state and are held only due to the strength resource laid down in the USSR, which is also exhausted. With a high degree of probability, the state of the dams of the state district power station can be considered among the top-priority threats of man-made disasters in Ukraine, especially after "specialists" from the United States were admitted there in 2014-2016.
    2. frruc
      frruc 4 February 2021 16: 21
      +3
      There is little information about the causes of the accident, but one of the station's employees told reporters that shortly before it, “valves were rustling for a long time” ........

      Everything is clear - the valves are to blame !!! stop
      1. 210ox
        210ox 4 February 2021 17: 06
        +13
        At TPPs, strong noise can occur due to sudden changes in the load, the operation of the reduction and cooling devices, when starting the units. Fire? Sometimes transformers burn, accidents at outdoor switchgear. What happened there is still unknown. I would not pay attention to such accidents in a neighboring country. Sometimes hydrogen explodes - there it is used in generator cooling systems.
        1. Alexander Lugovyh
          Alexander Lugovyh 4 February 2021 17: 31
          +1
          Are you right, you are probably an energy drink? And then I read wild game from sofa chairs.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 4 February 2021 17: 40
            +12
            I worked for twelve years at CHPP2 in Smolensk in the heat automation and measurement department. Now I have another job in a different area.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 4 February 2021 17: 49
              +1
              Quote: 210ox
              in the heat automation and measurement workshop

              CTAI? bully
              1. 210ox
                210ox 4 February 2021 18: 38
                +17
                Yes, in the automation group. I'm reading the comments here .. It's a man-made accident, it has a very distant relationship to politics. We ourselves also have all sorts of crap going on. Remind Sayano-Shushenskaya HPP? And there dozens of people died. In Smolensk, at CHPP2, the queue cannot be built for more than twenty years - they use only the chimney of the unfinished queue. And the equipment was there from the 70s. To be honest. We ourselves have so many holes that there is nothing to nod at the ruin.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 4 February 2021 19: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: 210ox
                  And the equipment there is from the 70s. To be honest

                  Do you think differently in Togliatti? There is a banal squeeze of the Soviet legacy. Only our pipes have already been built, even then, under the Union. One was even cut in half.
                2. Narak-zempo
                  Narak-zempo 4 February 2021 19: 23
                  -4
                  Quote: 210ox
                  Remind Sayano-Shushenskaya HPP?

                  This is different.
                3. bad
                  bad 4 February 2021 19: 51
                  +16
                  Quote: 210ox
                  We ourselves have enough holes that there is nothing to nod at the ruin

                  I even meet Masleniks, exported from Germany after the Victory - they still work.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 4 February 2021 20: 11
                    -1
                    Quote: malo
                    I even meet Shrovetide

                    What kind of carnival?
                    1. 210ox
                      210ox 4 February 2021 21: 01
                      +2
                      Oil switch. These circuit breakers have been using SFXNUMX gas for a long time. More precisely, SFXNUMX circuit breakers are a different design, but the same purpose.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 4 February 2021 21: 18
                        -1
                        Quote: 210ox
                        Oil switch.

                        Got it. I am not qualified in this field. hi
                  2. sharp-lad
                    sharp-lad 4 February 2021 23: 11
                    +3
                    But they need constant and regular care, adjustments and repairs. And so yes, both German and Soviet work for glory.
                    1. vadimtt
                      vadimtt 5 February 2021 13: 32
                      +1
                      Now they like to put vacuum ones - there is no need to service, just change after the destruction of contacts.
                      1. sharp-lad
                        sharp-lad 5 February 2021 21: 15
                        0
                        Yes, but they cost a little more and replace them after the manufacturer has developed the number of turn-on cycles. hi
        2. Victor jnnjdfy
          Victor jnnjdfy 4 February 2021 17: 37
          +2
          How did they manage to synchronize two of the four power units half an hour after the station went to zero?
          1. 210ox
            210ox 4 February 2021 17: 49
            +4
            Well, I don't know about half an hour. A healthy block from a hot state (only after evaluation) starts up rather quickly. The backup lines have already been switched on by this moment, then synchronization and power gain.
            1. Victor jnnjdfy
              Victor jnnjdfy 5 February 2021 05: 33
              +2
              Blocks were picked up from us in antediluvian times. Banned long ago. At the same time, the hawkers must bring out a number of protections and interlocks. They, the local people, still have to be in place at the time of the shutdown.
              If without serious violations of instructions, then from the block to synchronization is not less than an hour. And on the block there should be a blocker-ace. It's okay if you can plug the unit into the network in two hours.
        3. O-2-2
          O-2-2 4 February 2021 18: 59
          0
          Wow, there are more details in the commentary than in the opaque article "In Ukraine, the details of a major accident at the Zaporozhye TPP are being discussed!" Not a fig saw the details! Looks old age! Can such author be in the furnace ?!
    3. yehat2
      yehat2 4 February 2021 16: 28
      +11
      Quote: Hunter 2
      I am really afraid of experiments of Ukrainian nuclear scientists with fuel for nuclear power plants

      do not worry, their struggle between reason and greed is long over.
      it's too late to be afraid, it remains to wait for the results.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 4 February 2021 16: 32
        +2
        Not over. They are still struggling. Well, judging by the latest events, greed wins. The peasant stupidity came to the rescue of greed.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 4 February 2021 17: 57
          +3
          Due to peasant stupidity, nothing can be started at the TPP. We are discussing this accident? And believe me - trained personnel work at the power plant, regardless of politics. Although there are all sorts of types. A year in 93, I remember some drunken eccentrics driving when the load on the main switchboard changed - the boiler flue was blown up. And that was with us, not in Ukraine.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 February 2021 16: 35
      +11
      Quote: Hunter 2
      What to expect from them is unknown!

      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 4 February 2021 16: 39
        +15
        Do they make fun of the patriots of Ukraine by writing all this in the forbidden Russian language? The patriots, after reading this, will not go there, because they do not know the state language, they will write a denunciation to the police.
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 4 February 2021 16: 44
        +8
        Zaporozhye (Aleksandrovsk), an ad in the 9th hospital ...

        We treat ONLY patriots of the Outskirts ...


        And an ad for "patriots"- On the movi aggressor ...
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 4 February 2021 16: 52
          +3
          One thing is good that after the Maidan of the virus, there are fewer of them in St. Petersburg. Let them live and get treatment and wash the latrines. This is patriotic.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 4 February 2021 17: 00
            +4
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            One thing is good that after the Maidan of the virus, there are fewer of them in St. Petersburg.

            The only thing lousy is that ours from the DPR and LPR, those who for one reason or another came to the Russian Federation, "row with the same brush"with chubato-maydanuty, not bothering to parse where anyone.

            In the summer, my son was visiting Moscow-Moscow region for a month, and was somewhat upset by some unpleasant "nuances" in this matter ...
            1. major147
              major147 4 February 2021 17: 58
              +2
              Quote: Insurgent
              upset with some unpleasant "nuances"

              While working in one organization, I talked with two guys from Donbass, but from the Ukrainian side. They seem to be hiding from service in the Armed Forces. No questions arose.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 5 February 2021 08: 12
                0
                Quote: major147
                While working in one organization, I talked with two guys from Donbass, but from the Ukrainian side. They seem to be hiding from service in the Armed Forces. No questions arose.

                In the Rostov region, it may not have arisen. But it should be borne in mind that Moscow is a peculiar city, far from Rostov-on-Don, and it has its own very interesting specifics.
            2. Andrei Nikolaevich
              Andrei Nikolaevich 5 February 2021 08: 38
              +1
              Insurgent, you are wrong. Not all one size fits all. Normal people always clarify - Donbass or the outskirts ... Although, he somehow collided - a chubby "disguised" as a Donetsk resident .. And I hear that he has an accent, not a Donetsk ... And his behavior is typically chubato - helpful ingratiating ... The guys and I are at work, quickly brought him to clean water ...
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 5 February 2021 09: 36
                0
                Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                Insurgent, you are wrong. Not all one size fits all. Normal people always specify - Donbass or the outskirts ...


                I'll tell you from my son's observations during his month in Moscow.
                For example, a person from us, who is, say, in a difficult situation, wants to get a job at least as a janitor, but he won’t get it ... Nor will a Belarusian get it.
                But the Central Asian will be taken.
                Nuance also in the fact that many in Russia think that in the DPR and LPR everything is pretty often already with Russian passports. This is not so, far from it.
                I note that you can get it quickly, but nIf there is a DNR... And here is the "bottleneck". I know teenagers who for a year, after reaching the age of 14, have not been able to obtain a republican passport, and some for two years ...
                FIRST PASSPORT ... Not to mention those who themselves want to change the Ukropsky one, or its validity has simply expired ...

                And if you are stopped by the police with a Ukrop passport, then the policeman does not care about your actual registration in the DPR - you are "Ukrainian" for him ...
                1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                  Andrei Nikolaevich 5 February 2021 10: 03
                  0
                  Strange ... I didn't know. In our convoy, a guy from Donetsk has been working for a long time. True, he has already arrived with a DPR passport. But I got our passport too, quickly. And of course, it's better to get rid of the Ukropskiy passport ..
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 5 February 2021 10: 05
                    0
                    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                    In our convoy, a guy from Donetsk has been working for a long time.

                    So ask him what and how with the certification at the moment, and what BRIBE (did they fight and are fighting for this?) You need to give in order to get a DPR passport ...
                    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                      Andrei Nikolaevich 5 February 2021 12: 51
                      0
                      Good. I will definitely find out. He's a great guy. I don’t think he’ll lie.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 4 February 2021 17: 00
            0
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            One thing is good that after the Maidan of the virus, there are fewer of them in St. Petersburg.

            Lucky you St. Petersburgers.
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 4 February 2021 17: 18
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          And the announcement for the "patriots" - On the aggressor's movi ...

          So that's just the point! You also need to know what the people who wrote the ad mean by "patriots of Ukraine". Maybe just those who stood and defended the monument to Lenin and their families. And in general, there are many relatives from Donbass in those parts ...
      3. 210ox
        210ox 4 February 2021 17: 09
        +2
        Why in a forbidden language? It's time to take action. Up to the disassembly of the chief doctor for organs.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 4 February 2021 17: 13
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          Why in a forbidden language? It's time to take action. Up to the disassembly of the chief doctor for organs.


          The head physician, there is most likely still "from the scoop", so that his organs are shabby, and not Svidomo-patriotic. Like this fellow
          1. O-2-2
            O-2-2 4 February 2021 19: 40
            -6
            Why are you writing here? They don't need you! You were just used.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 February 2021 08: 04
              +3
              Quote: O-2-2
              Why are you writing here? They don't need you! You were just used.

              Be quiet, they did not give a word to the footcloth.
      4. Black lotos
        Black lotos 5 February 2021 00: 26
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine

        What to expect from them is unknown!

        Google does not show any such side news from there and the picture leads to Pikaba.
        Funny address at hospital number nine
        street Happy, 1

        reviews about the hospital itself are not very funny.
    5. Ruslan Sledkov
      Ruslan Sledkov 4 February 2021 17: 16
      +6
      Experiments with American fuel are still INTO. They have 2 units of the Rivne NPP that have exhausted their resource 10 years ago and are working. MAGATE does not itch. But if we are pierced on some trifle, then the screams from the MAGATE will go.
      1. Black lotos
        Black lotos 7 February 2021 18: 18
        0
        Quote: Ruslan Sledkov
        MAGATE does not itch. But if we pierce on some little things, then the screams from the MAGATE will go

        their work is overseen by both the Western European Nuclear Regulators Association (WENRA) and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), both of which are designed to promote nuclear energy.
        As for "the IAEA does not itch" - the example of Fukushima, and there were regular inspections of the IAEA. That is, they were constantly scratching there. We see little sense.
        Quote: Ruslan Sledkov
        They have 2 units of the Rivne NPP that have exhausted their resource 10 years ago and are working

        so they extended them.
        In 2010, the VVER-440 reactor vessel was annealed at the first power unit. In December 2010, after studying the results of the program for extending the service life of power units No. 2005 and 1 at Rivne NPP, which has been going on since 2, the State Nuclear Regulatory Inspectorate decided to extend their service life by 20 years.
        Back in 2017, the deadlines for the remaining power units of the Rivne NPP were over
        In 2018, a license was obtained to operate the nuclear installation of power unit No. 3 of the Rovno NPP until December 11, 2037.
        1. Ruslan Sledkov
          Ruslan Sledkov 8 February 2021 20: 28
          0
          I did not know about the extension of the 1st and 2nd Rivne Blocks back in 2010, that is, before the coup in Ukraine. Thanks for the info. Something very much they extended, as much as 20 years.
    6. antivirus
      antivirus 4 February 2021 17: 33
      +2
      the faster it bangs, the faster they will be resettled from the contaminated zone - and now to the fraternal Nimetz.
      kokhly are the smiths of their own happiness
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 4 February 2021 19: 15
        +3
        Quote: antivirus
        they will be relocated from the contaminated zone - and now to the fraternal nimetchina.

        They were once already massively resettled there ... They forgot how much "happiness" they got there? For the last 30 years, and especially for the very last six, they forgot ...
      2. Clear
        Clear 4 February 2021 20: 41
        +5
        Quote: antivirus
        kokhly are the smiths of their own happiness

        So while they are not forging, but jumping ...
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 4 February 2021 22: 32
          +1
          they forge him with horseshoes. did you think they were playing tap dance? ........................................... their sidewalks are even from such dances
          1. Clear
            Clear 5 February 2021 09: 23
            +4
            Quote: antivirus
            their sidewalks are even from such dances

            During icy conditions and flat sidewalks are dangerous winked
    7. venik
      venik 4 February 2021 19: 55
      +2
      Quote: Hunter 2
      One Chernobyl is enough for us ... I really fear the experiments of Ukrainian nuclear scientists with fuel for nuclear power plants. What to expect from them is unknown!

      =========
      I don't know if you know, but there is very close to the Zaporizhzhya TPP, literally a few kilometers away - the Zaporozhye NPP is located (!) ....
      I do not think that this (a fire at a thermal power plant) can somehow seriously threaten the nuclear power plant ... But if the power in the energy cluster is lost, the nuclear power plant will have to go to increased power mode (to compensate for losses) that given by you the above - there is not "comme il faut" at all ... request drinks
    8. Clear
      Clear 4 February 2021 20: 36
      +5
      Quote: Hunter 2
      One Chernobyl is enough for us ... I really fear the experiments of Ukrainian nuclear scientists with fuel for nuclear power plants. What to expect from them is unknown!

      Yes, you can't move your neighbors away, no matter how inadequate they are ...
  3. Guru
    Guru 4 February 2021 16: 13
    +3
    So it is not far from New Chernobyl.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 4 February 2021 16: 18
      +1
      What does Chernobyl and a thermal power plant (thermal power plant) have to do with it?
      1. frruc
        frruc 4 February 2021 16: 27
        +5
        Connection with the finding of inadequate control panels of power plants and wear and tear of the hardware.
      2. Brturin
        Brturin 4 February 2021 16: 33
        +5
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        What is Chernobyl and TPP (thermal power plant)?

        Taking into account the fact that a large thermal power plant has stopped, and the others are not so hot with coal, the load will fall on the nuclear power plant ... old age, the fuel of the wrong brand ... and the cats are not conscious, they asked very much not to feed on Khmelnitskaya, one got where not to ...
      3. Guru
        Guru 4 February 2021 17: 06
        0
        What does Chernobyl and a thermal power plant (thermal power plant) have to do with it?

        Whose fuel cells at the Zaporizhzhya NPPs? And whose coal at Zaporozhye TPPs? Fuel cells are American, and the coal is African?
        I support the opinion of Alexei (Hunter 2) - By the way, Alexei hi
        Everything related to power generation in Ukraine ultimately rests on nuclear power plants. An accident at a TPP - accordingly, gives an increase in the load on nuclear power plants, for which a sharp decrease or increase in loads is Critical!
        The largest nuclear power plant in Europe is located in Zaporozhye.
        1. O-2-2
          O-2-2 4 February 2021 19: 15
          -7
          Duru, and whose coal is it ?!
      4. venik
        venik 4 February 2021 20: 01
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        What does Chernobyl and a thermal power plant (thermal power plant) have to do with it?

        =======
        And despite the fact that Zaporozhye TPP (where the fire happened) and Zaporozhye NPP - are just a few kilometers apart! And, worst of all, they are tied up in one energy cluster (i.e., if the power at TPPs drops, compensate for the supply of electricity to the unified energy system easiest by means of power increase NUCLEAR PLANT!
        You see to what Am I leaning?
      5. Clear
        Clear 4 February 2021 20: 42
        +4
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        What does Chernobyl and a thermal power plant (thermal power plant) have to do with it?

        Transfer of unplanned load at nuclear power plants
        1. Turist1996
          Turist1996 5 February 2021 15: 22
          +1
          Exactly!
  4. svoit
    svoit 4 February 2021 16: 20
    +3
    Quote: OrangeBigg

    We are talking about thermal power plants, that is, about a thermal power plant. What does the nuclear power plant have to do with it, that is, nuclear power plants

    This refers to experiments with American Swedish fuel for nuclear power plants, but in general it’s not bad without good, we saved a lot of coal.
  5. Mouse
    Mouse 4 February 2021 16: 22
    +8
    As soon as the screw falls out ... the system is gone ... yes
    And at the screw, the thread has eaten through .......
    1. Clear
      Clear 4 February 2021 20: 37
      +6
      Quote: Mouse
      As soon as the screw falls out ... the system is gone ... yes
      And at the screw, the thread has eaten through .......

      There, some of whom, first ate the brains with rust, and then the cogs.
  6. Alien From
    Alien From 4 February 2021 16: 23
    +1
    Decommunization is really there ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 February 2021 16: 37
      +4
      Quote: Alien From
      Decommunization is really there ...

      It's like this ..
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 4 February 2021 16: 44
        +5
        Even worse, all around the damned maskals are seizing ... laughing
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 4 February 2021 19: 17
          +3
          Quote: Alien From
          Even worse, all around the damned maskals are seizing ... laughing

          Have we already been declared guilty of the accident? Or wait for the next humorous show from day to day?
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 4 February 2021 19: 29
            +4
            Igor is here hi if Sharahnet is serious ... it will be indifferent to look for the "guilty" - we will get rid of everything. Energy, especially nuclear power, is a serious thing. And such accidents at thermal power plants - They certainly do not add optimism.
            It’s a sinful thing to think about why so many nuclear power plants have been built in Ukraine, I hope the reactors will gradually shut down, but the new non-brothers - Definitely not to see!
          2. Alien From
            Alien From 4 February 2021 19: 36
            +1
            Most likely to wait)
      2. O-2-2
        O-2-2 4 February 2021 19: 17
        -8
        And you are still quiet Marina will not be quiet! Well, lines, windbag.
  7. Eldorado
    Eldorado 4 February 2021 16: 23
    +4
    All is well, beautiful marquise!
  8. keeper03
    keeper03 4 February 2021 16: 24
    +14
    The Soviet legacy ends its work, and the new the ruin built nothing ! request These accidents will soon be the norm. belay
  9. yehat2
    yehat2 4 February 2021 16: 36
    +5
    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
    Peasant stupidity came to the rescue of greed

    stages of agony have long been debugged.
    dullness is followed by strange unexpected problems
    the extreme will follow them, the leadership will begin to merge and even the semblance of control will disappear,
    and then everyone who is nearby will look for copper basins to cover themselves.
    1. major147
      major147 4 February 2021 18: 07
      +3
      Quote: yehat2
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Peasant stupidity came to the rescue of greed

      stages of agony have long been debugged.
      dullness is followed by strange unexpected problems
      the extreme will follow them, the leadership will begin to merge and even the semblance of control will disappear,
      and then everyone who is nearby will look for copper basins to cover themselves.

      Meanwhile, Ukraine lacks 600 MWh daily, which they buy from Belarus and Russia. Why don't they gnaw through the "enemy" cable !? I remember a case when one Svidomo blew up his house, good having learned that the gas comes from Russia. That's what I understand! But unfortunately, they are no longer made there. lol
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 4 February 2021 18: 33
        +1
        Quote: major147
        Meanwhile, Ukraine lacks 600 MWh daily

        But how do they drive electricity to Europe? request
        https://www.epravda.com.ua/rus/news/2020/10/8/666067/
        1. major147
          major147 4 February 2021 18: 56
          +1
          Quote: Piramidon
          But how do they drive electricity to Europe?

          Are you asking me !? recourse
          http://k-politika.ru/cemi-tes-ukrainy-xvatit-uglya-na-1−5-dnej-energozakupki-v-rossii-rastut/?utm_source=finobzor.ru
        2. Brturin
          Brturin 4 February 2021 21: 18
          0
          Quote: Piramidon
          But how do they drive electricity to Europe?

          So when the electric system was built ... they separated the same Khmelnitskaya from the electric system and transferred it to Poland .. and at the same time in other places for balancing the electric power came from the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus ... They want to separate, they will to build new power lines, a simple consumer will pay for it ... the owner is a master, only taking into account the fact that the EU lobbies and finances the closure of coal mines, then there is still the question of what will happen to the thermal energy ...
      2. O-2-2
        O-2-2 4 February 2021 19: 21
        -12%
        Aha, and the Khibiny knocked out Cook! Smile, fool, if you read and ACCEPT these sources of "information"!
      3. Black lotos
        Black lotos 5 February 2021 00: 36
        +1
        Quote: major147
        Meanwhile, Ukraine lacks 600 MWh daily, which they buy from Belarus and Russia.

        It's very simple there. The first is a unified system of RF / Ukraine / RB. From the USSR.
        Secondly, the transfer of energy that the RF sells to different countries.
        Then the purchase of energy from Ukraine itself to save peak coal consumption (buying energy is cheaper than buying coal from the same Russia and getting energy from Akhmetov)
        But this is limited, and only as a last resort, so as not to disrupt the supply of its own energy to the EU, and the transfer of Russian energy. Unless in case of emergency.
        For example, a lot of energy was bought in 2019. And in 2020 there are very few.
        Ukraine is at the bottom of the list among the buyers of Russian electricity.
        In fact, the purchase of energy on such a market allows you to save on the purchase of coal and threaten with cheap import prices within Ukraine. What causes Akhmetov's demarche.
        In general, there are pros and cons. Even without politics, business as usual and the marketplace.
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 4 February 2021 19: 20
      +1
      Quote: yehat2
      and then everyone who is nearby will look for copper basins to cover themselves.

      They have a stock of pots left from Maidan. Due to poverty, instead of copper basins (you can hand over non-ferrous metals!), They will cover with enameled pans ...
  10. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 4 February 2021 16: 40
    +5
    Most likely, non-slaves will be announced about the residual bland, will raise prices to European ones, but will continue to buy electricity in Russia. How was it with gas)))
  11. Dimide
    Dimide 4 February 2021 16: 45
    -2
    Delirium is delusional.
    Today they are discussing a fire with 200m in the Zaporozhye information station.
    Including the author's favorite country ua.
    1. Vadim Ananyin
      Vadim Ananyin 4 February 2021 17: 15
      +4
      I don't want to croak, but they will have more and more 200s.
      It’s a pity for hard workers and ordinary people, but they must someday get that power is their shit.
      Although in our country, in fact, she did not go far.
  12. bar
    bar 4 February 2021 16: 53
    +3
    As the head of the Zaporizhzhya Regional State Administration Alexander Starukh said on his Facebook, it was possible to restore the city's electricity supply by connecting backup lines.

    Coming from Russia ...
    They also run out of coal for thermal power plants. An unhappy country dying from its own "independent" ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 4 February 2021 17: 31
      -6
      Energodar has more electricity than any other city in the world. almost ten thousand megawatts.
      there is no need for any external electricity, there is a huge surplus.
      1. bar
        bar 4 February 2021 17: 34
        +3
        Country 404 federalized? Now they have every man for himself? Then I am calm for the residents of Energodar laughing
        1. Avior
          Avior 4 February 2021 18: 46
          -4
          Energodar has generating capacities of almost ten gigawatts, there is no such thing anywhere else in the world, switching to a backup is not a problem there.
          1. Dimide
            Dimide 4 February 2021 19: 18
            -4
            By the way, in Energodar the Germans want to build a hydrogen production plant and a data center precisely because of the surplus of electricity and the proximity of water resources
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 4 February 2021 18: 36
        +2
        Quote: Avior
        Energodar has more electricity than any other city in the world. almost ten thousand megawatts.
        there is no need for any external electricity, there is a huge surplus.

        Have they accumulated in underground storage facilities? laughing
  13. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 4 February 2021 16: 58
    +7
    Take Chubais to help you, he is a "distinguished power engineer". Is free!
    1. Clear
      Clear 4 February 2021 20: 39
      +5
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Take Chubais to help you, he is a "distinguished power engineer". Is free!

      I, I even agree to fold yes
  14. evgen1221
    evgen1221 4 February 2021 17: 06
    +3
    Are we waiting for the statement of the SBU about the terrorist act of the FSB agents? And what can you hear from the investigation of the pipe explosion?
  15. Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 4 February 2021 17: 11
    +1
    In general, this was to be expected, naturally.
    It is strange that it began only now, but then it will be more dynamic and tragic.
    At an outstripping pace, but this is already fraught, crap and will not seem a little.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 4 February 2021 17: 23
      +4
      Quote: Vadim Ananyin
      It's strange that it only started now

      Yes, there were already several signals from there, in the sense of Zaporozhye and the region. Not the first time, but so far managed to patch up
      Quote: Vadim Ananyin
      but this is already fraught, lousy and will not seem a little.

      And it will not seem a little that Europe. What will they sing then?
      1. Vadim Ananyin
        Vadim Ananyin 4 February 2021 17: 32
        +2
        To be honest, I personally do not care about the EU (Europe), not because I am the last cynic but the wind rose can pump our side too. This is scary, I'm not afraid to die, but because of these stupidity (to put it mildly) our people, children and everyone else may suffer. This fact does not raise the mood. And then, as a result, the exclusion zone for hundreds of kilometers! And a killed economy
        in these regions.
        1. Turist1996
          Turist1996 5 February 2021 15: 33
          +1
          But in this case, troops will have to be deployed to ensure the safe jamming of all nuclear power plants by our specialists and the subsequent removal of spent nuclear fuel. In this case, the stations with all the infrastructure will have to be taken under protection and control.
          And Europe, I think, will also offer its help, because they also do not need a "monkey with an atomic grenade" at their side.
  16. sergo1914
    sergo1914 4 February 2021 17: 13
    +2
    If an accident happens there,
    It will be cold for all of us without a CHP ...
    (c) KVN "Snezhnogorsk"
  17. Avior
    Avior 4 February 2021 17: 23
    0
    Complete nonsense
    According to Deputy Energy Minister Yuriy Boyko, the accident at a substation in the Zaporozhye region occurred due to a short circuit. As a result, consumers with a total load of 24 MW were left without electricity for just over an hour.

    "At 21:26 at the Zaporozhye thermal power plant, they began to connect the blocks to the network," the deputy minister informed on Facebook ..

    On the 150 kV line - and the vicinity of Znerhodar is shrouded in power lines like a cobweb - in all directions - a short circuit passed, the protection did not work completely, the transformer burned out - it is on the video that is on fire. The usual commission in such cases works, they figure out why the protection did not completely turn off or did not work on time.
    An accident, of course, but nothing special for power grids. By the way, the accident had no direct relation to the power plant. And even to the atomic - and even more so.
    but the video is somehow tragically filmed :))))
    What kind of valves could make noise and who came to the substation and, most importantly, why? Is a complete mystery. Most likely someone's awkward invention.
    At the Zaporizhzhya TPP, by the way, there are 7 power units, not 4. Due to a network closure, 3 that were in operation were disconnected by standard protection.

    household consumers were disconnected, an hour later they were all connected back, the units were returned to work.
    They are probably surprised by this - Energodar, it seems, is the city with the most electricity supply in the world - the total installed capacity of units in Energodar is 9650 MW.
    There is not so much power electrical equipment in one relatively small area, it seems, nowhere else.

    That's all the "explosions" and so on. Nothing extraordinary.
    1. Victor jnnjdfy
      Victor jnnjdfy 4 February 2021 17: 44
      +4
      When the power unit is turned off for protection, the blowdown of the steam collection chambers into the atmosphere on the boiler opens. They make noise until the driver closes them.
      1. Avior
        Avior 5 February 2021 11: 22
        0
        This happens if the boiler heat load regulator fails.
        As a rule, with a sharp large load drop.
        But the accident was not at the power unit, but in the network and at the substation.
        And before the accident, no "valve" could be connected with this in any way.
        and there they write about the situation before the accident in the network.
        1. Victor jnnjdfy
          Victor jnnjdfy 5 February 2021 23: 34
          0
          Do not confuse the boiler safety valves and the blowdown of the steam collection chambers.
          Before the accident, it could have been anything. On the chipboard, on the ROU ..... there is also protection. The substation is a separate topic. There is nothing to make noise.
          1. Avior
            Avior 6 February 2021 04: 59
            -2
            Since the disconnection of the units occurred due to a short in the network and a disconnection at the substation, nothing that would have happened to the units before the accident could have anything to do with it.
    2. O-2-2
      O-2-2 4 February 2021 19: 30
      -4
      The main thing here is Ukraine! And fart with nothing!
  18. AVA77
    AVA77 4 February 2021 17: 41
    +2
    Urgently rename Energodar to Los Angeles and straighten the alternating current with a sledgehammer and
    rename to square. belay
    .
  19. aries2200
    aries2200 4 February 2021 17: 41
    +3
    great news ... even to the heap and frost -30s it would be very good to jump kakunam
  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 February 2021 18: 10
    +4
    Centerenergo OJSC said that an emergency shutdown occurred at power unit No. 1 of Zaporozhskaya TPP and No. 9 of Kurakhovskaya TPP due to damage to the heating surface of the boiler unit: “After repair, the power units will be ready to operate in the power system. Such a technological disruption is a common occurrence for any thermal generation, especially during a period of high load. In order to balance the system, DTEK took power unit No.10 of the Kryvyi Rih TPP out of repair ahead of schedule. In addition, at the command of NEC Ukrenergo, power units No. 9 and No. 12 of Burshtynskaya TPP and No. 7 of Dobrotvorskaya TPP were promptly connected to the grid, although their work was not provided for by the load schedule. "

    One of the TPP employees, on condition of anonymity, shared information that valves at the TPP had been rustling for a long time before the accident. But already tonight the protection system worked there. After that, 3 blocks were turned off. At the same time, the director of the TPP was not there during the emergency. He is on a business trip. According to Ukrenergo, at the moment 4 units are in emergency repair. Another 2 just stand without fuel.

    Today, Ukraine has increased the purchases of electricity in Belarus and Russia, and in the coming days, purchase orders have been increased several times (apparently, just in case - until they figure out the severity of the accident).

    There is no doubt that Russia will be accused of the accident tomorrow. But while Ukraine is being saved from rolling blackouts by the Minsk "usurper" and the Moscow "aggressor" laughinghttp://80.91.174.205:17813/Blocks/memo.jsp
  21. Cowbra
    Cowbra 4 February 2021 18: 10
    +1
    Nu-nu ... It just so happened that Mnu has a lot of acquaintances in the Outskirts ... There is also one just there in Ukrenergo, well, he said back in the 15th year that in fact it is no longer necessary to repair the generation and power transmission ... Like the same substations and power lines - but to build anew, there is nothing to repair there - a trishkin caftan ... Yes, I saw it myself. even before the 14th year. there are such pretzels. - you come - and you stand in a daze - guys. and what - THIS is also what works ?! And you pulled me out. so that on THIS I have a non-acid load for you? The owner is a master. only it will blaze, even if not today, maybe not tomorrow, but the day after tomorrow - and what will you do then? I already looked at the duplicate branches - they are on paper. They are not workers ...
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 February 2021 18: 15
    +3
    Yes, and drowned lace panties that were prepared for the EEC and slippers that were prepared for the war with Russia. laughing lol
  23. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 February 2021 18: 17
    0
    It will be fun if the pumps supplying water for cooling the NPP units receive electricity from the Zaporozhye TPP. belay
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 February 2021 18: 20
    +3
    It's okay, restart 

    And here's how to restart to system work:

    "At the same time, according to the Ministry of Energy of Ukraine, as of February 2, 2021, coal reserves at TPPs are 431,9 thousand tons (291 thousand tons - gas coal and 140,9 thousand tons - anthracite). Current coal reserves are 5,5 , 4 times less than the value as of February 2020, 2,4 (XNUMX million tons)

    The NKREKU clarified that, according to NEC Ukrenergo, as of January 31, 2021, fuel reserves in TPP warehouses since November 2020 have decreased 5,7 times - to 436,8 thousand tons. Moreover, 48% of coal reserves are concentrated only at two stations - Lugansk and Slavyanskaya TPP "

    https://ria.ru/20210204/ugol-1595942636.html

    Meanwhile, from the end of the week, weather forecasters promise a cold snap again, in days until -20. 
    1. Black lotos
      Black lotos 5 February 2021 00: 43
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Meanwhile, from the end of the week, weather forecasters promise a cold snap again, in days until -20. 

      on one site the minimum will be -15 and then one day, then warming.
      On Gismeteo, the temperature is generally below 5 degrees below zero for the whole of February. And up to plus 10.
      Whom to believe?
      It is difficult to imagine a short-term -20 on the territory of Ukraine. If it was minus 20 all over the territory for just a couple of days, it would cause a collapse.
  25. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 February 2021 18: 22
    -1
    Damned Puten broke the stoker laughing (Putin) laughing
  26. svoit
    svoit 4 February 2021 19: 12
    -1
    Quote: Cowbra
    Like the same substations and power lines - but to build anew, there is nothing to repair there - trishkin caftan

    Well, at least there is money for the planned repair of the nuclear power plant, for 5 years probably everyone has already gone through such a repair. Moreover, the equipment is not only replaced, but such that it would work on American fuel.
    1. IL-18
      IL-18 4 February 2021 19: 18
      +4
      Quote: svoit
      put such that it would work on American fuel

      Are reactors changing? Really! belay
      1. Clear
        Clear 4 February 2021 20: 45
        +6
        Quote: IL-18
        Quote: svoit
        put such that it would work on American fuel

        Are reactors changing? Really! belay

        It is hardly that simple
  27. AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 4 February 2021 20: 20
    0
    This TPP was built in the USSR in 1977. It has been in operation for 44 years. After the collapse, the maintenance was probably not carried out properly. On the face of a clear wear and tear of equipment resources, so it began to pour in.
  28. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 4 February 2021 21: 06
    0
    the first swallows or rooks have arrived ..... it is great that the North Crimean canal was blocked ... soon the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant will tear up..skakuas greetings from the Crimeans
    1. Black lotos
      Black lotos 5 February 2021 00: 52
      -2
      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      . soon will tear the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant .. skakuasam greetings from the Crimean people

      Will the partisans from Crimea blow up?
      The largest nuclear power plant in Europe is pretty well watched.
      1202,23 billion kWh over the entire history of ZNPP.
      per day 121 million kWh
      4.14 billion kWh since the beginning of the year
      After extending the service life for 10 years, power unit No. 5 was launched, which allowed the NPP for the first time in the history of Ukraine to approach the full design capacity of 6000 MW. It was January 15th.
      By the way, half of the generation of Ukrainian nuclear power plants (220 million on February 4) is ZNPP-121 million.
      Do you want to strike at the energy heart of Ukraine?
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 5 February 2021 07: 29
        0
        Will the partisans from Crimea blow up? ... it's unlikely, but Westinghouse is easy
        to approach the full design capacity of 6000 MW .... and it's not good to lie ... VVER-1000 cannot produce more than 1000 MW, and three units are in water ... that's why the junta urgently bought power from Belarus and the Russian Federation
        Do you want to strike at the energy heart of Ukraine? ...... Ukraine's heart ended in February 2014 ... only the undead are left

        ..
        1. Black lotos
          Black lotos 7 February 2021 18: 01
          0
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          approach the full design capacity of 6000 MW .... and W is not good to lie ... VVER-1000 cannot produce more than 1000 MW and three units are in zeros

          well, if in numbers, data is February 5
          ZNPP-2 - current capacity is 1025 MW.
          ZNPP-3 - current capacity is 1020 MW.
          ZNPP-4 - current capacity is 1005 MW.
          ZNPP-5 - current capacity is 1000 MW.
          ZNPP-6 - current capacity is 1025 MW.
          There are 6 VVER-1000 power units. Which in total gives .... gives just 6 thousand MW.
          So, on January 15, at 0:25, power unit No. 5 of ZNPP was connected to the network after repairs.
          All six power units of the station were in operation. For the first time in history, the Ukrainian nuclear power giant in Europe, the Zaporizhzhya NPP, has reached its full design capacity of 6 MW.
          This was facilitated by -
          operation of all 6 power units (about 1000 MW each)
          commissioning of a 750 kV power transmission line from ZNPP to the Kakhovskaya substation.
          So, before the scheduled repair of one of the units, ZNPP produced 6 MW.
          ZNPP worked with 5 power units with a maximum capacity of 5300 MW.
          This moment is a picture of the work of all nuclear power plants
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 8 February 2021 17: 42
            -1
            ZNPP-2 - the current power of 1025 MW ....... the electric power of VVER-1000 cannot be higher than the design power of 1000 MW ... because the design thermal power of VVER-1000 is 3000 MW ... that is, three times more electrical, that is, almost 100 MW higher than the design one threatens with melting of the reactor core ... just AZ-5 will not allow this to happen, the reactor will be automatically shut down ... most likely we are talking about thermal power and this is about no more than 400 kW from the reactor ... along the way, this is the reason for the purchase of electricity from the Russian Federation and Belarus ...
            another interesting feature .... nuclear power is the cheapest in the world .. then a logical question ... why then, wow, the electricity tariff has doubled with such epoch-making record capacities ... someone is lying there .... but why there ... all who lie at the feeding trough ... then they are at war with the Russian Federation and that did not come to the war, then their courts are advanced and the killers wander the streets ... so with energoatom ... .I would rather believe the IAEA vodkas ... and they are disappointing for vnau
  29. 113262a
    113262a 5 February 2021 00: 01
    0
    Yes, at first they totally mined, and now they are sawing for ferrous metal and our Schastinskaya GRES. Akhmetovskie devils.
  30. realmadmaxx
    realmadmaxx 5 February 2021 07: 40
    0
    Nenya Nenya sprinkled Ridna, Nenya Nyasheka Nasha belay
  31. musorg
    musorg 5 February 2021 11: 52
    0
    However, we will ask Minsk for electricity, although we have shit on him recently, but nothing will survive!
  32. iouris
    iouris 6 February 2021 12: 22
    0
    What I pointed out three ... five years ago began. And now we need to calculate the economic consequences of the occupation of nuclear power plants and the environmental consequences of a nuclear disaster and compare.
  33. Black lotos
    Black lotos 7 February 2021 18: 24
    0
    the commentators are so keen on discussing the NPP, and the accident was at the TPP.
    I note that only bad news is popular in the world and in particular here. Let's say the good ones, the ZNPP has reached its design capacity - they are not interesting to anyone. But the accident is more interesting.
    So everywhere - the news that how many children were born does not bother anyone. But the murder is yes. Interesting for everyone.
    Unfortunately, human needs only for the bad.