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Dead lions are only kicked by jackals

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“I have never sung about the global,
I've always believed

It's better to have a live dog
Than a dead lion ... "
A. Grigoryan, "Crematorium" group


In general, the choice is so-so. Moreover, depending on what angle you look at it, which is better, a live dog or a dead lion.

But in our case, we are not talking about dogs, but about jackals. Like Tobaccos in the famous cartoon about Mowgli.

For only jackals can afford this - yapping towards the lions. Dead, naturally. Aside the living, you know, it's scary.

Surprisingly, I could not even imagine that the death of an actor, an artist, albeit a great one, would be able to stir up society. For this, the last applause to Vasily Lanovoy, he played his last role in the Russian performance. The role of the indicator by showing very clearly who is who.

On the web and in the media, they have already gone through Krastoshevsky, an employee (I really hope that the former) of the Kultura TV channel. Deservedly.

I will not post photos of this organism on our pages, as the photos of Vasily Lanovoy are more appropriate here. And where eagles fly, there is nothing for vultures to catch, so we can do without Krastashevsky, agree?

In general, with this Krastoshevsky, the situation turned out to be interesting. He decided that he could spit at Lanovoy and did it. You see, one less putinoid has become, Krastoshevsky's joy.

Dead lions are only kicked by jackals


But the fact that he then began to screech that he was an employee of the federal channel, that everyone who attacks him would simply not get away with it, and stuff like that looks strange. The Kultura channel is a part of VGTRK, the all-Russian STATE TV channel. That is, a very funny chain is drawn.

Krastoshevsky despises Lanovoy and calls him a putinoid. But at the same time, he calmly receives a salary from the very state, headed by the same person, for relations with which he spits at Lanovoy. Into the dead Lanovoy.

And again bees against honey, and again anti-Semitism, in which Krastoshevsky accused all opponents.





An excellent situation: Lanovoy, who has benefited all his life, playing roles that will remain with us forever, receiving money and awards from the state, is a bad person. And Krastoshevsky, who does the same in terms of money from the state, is just an angel.

By the way, the Kultura TV and Radio Company for some reason did not confirm the presence of Krastoshevsky in his state ... And as a result, our fighter, who had previously promised everyone ruin through the courts, for some reason deleted his page from which he was broadcasting so furiously ...

Strange, isn't it? But even more interesting are these statements by Krastoshevsky:



Nice about the Motherland, right? Read carefully the work of the "Culture" channel scriptwriter. A good channel, by the way. You just wonder. how could such a thing be there ...

And Krastoshevsky is not alone. All the light-faced Warriors of Light from the company of Navalny's supporters suddenly uncovered far from human faces and ... Well, yes, everyone will choose words for himself that better characterize what our “fair-faced” and “brightest” have begun to broadcast.

Wow, BP walked alongside Putin on the march ... Crime of the century, there is nothing to say!



Yes, I am not a fan or even a supporter of Putin. However, you need to know when to stop. A great artist has the right to be friends with anyone. But, if someone considered it necessary to speak, he could do it, as a person should. That is, in the face.

But we have recently been fashionable to do it in the back. As Krastoshevsky did, as the comedians of the quartet did, as thousands of "fair-faced" people do, who suddenly shuddered towards Lanovoy.

Do not mention it? Well, I do not.

Krastoshevsky, if he is known for what, is how cowardly he acted. First, spitting at the deceased person, and then, fearing that more and more people called him who he really was, deleted his page.

How it's called? It's called COWARD!

And how it all began ... Sasha showed self-confidence, an American nuclear aircraft carrier would have envied. He threatened with "multimillion-dollar fines for libel" and "real terms", promised to "go all the way" and "break the life" of those who dared to encroach ...

He told me what a good lawyer he had and not only that. In general, he said so much that it could really come out to him sideways. And when it dawned on him (or someone clever suggested) that the search was done in full, he rushed to change the information in the profile and partially wipe past posts.

In general - another "Putin's palace".

I am so boldly comparing, because the Czechs have officially confirmed that pictures of the library in the Czech Republic were issued for the surroundings of the "palace". Well, in general, everything was sewn so-so. A little crooked and not so good.

It's the same here.

All this yapping and grunt at the great artist who left us is ridiculous if it weren't so sad.

It is sad that this is performed by a choir of those who seem to be the opposition. Who should be there to demand something from the same Putin and so on. But in fact, these "fighters for the Light" simply tore off their masks and showed their true ... spots.

But let them be offended. If Krastashevsky remains in memory, it is precisely as a scoundrel who has so ridiculously lowered himself.

And Lanovoy will remain. And it will stay for a long time. And nothing to erase from the memory of his role. Personally, I saw him for the first time in Scarlet Sails, and if the best Arthur Gray appears, it will not be during my lifetime.

And what about his work in the TV series "The unknown war"? And what about other equally significant roles? And not only Ivan in "Officers", Lanovoy played a lot of people. And he played with his soul.


"Scarlet Sails"



"Anna Karenina"



"Officers"


Yes, our regular readers have already written to me. What kind of "Officers" Lanovoy is worthy ... Yes, worthy. Indeed, a landmark film.


"Seventeen Moments of Spring"


Well, and the scene at the airport - isn't it brilliant? Mimicry, plastic, well, after all, an episode that has become a masterpiece. And let's confess, because many even sympathized with the handsome Wolf, who could get into circulation with dad Mueller. But it was Lanovoy who played the episode like that ...

This is what separates the great actor from the great cowardly nonentity.

But you want to criticize - what's in the back?

In general, our "Most Serene Opposition" once again showed its culture, upbringing and everything else.

However, after campaigning for participation in meetings of minors in schools, I personally am not surprised at anything. And spitting at a person who has left us is the final touch to the portrait.



So really, on the one hand, it's disgusting that such история happened to one of the most beloved true folk artists of the two countries, on the other - our opposition showed once again its true "face". More, however, similar to the muzzle.

And then let them talk as much as they want about the fact that we have an inactive people, slaves, slaves and everything else.

But you know, with such sublime and enlightened Krastashevskys, many smart and well-mannered people are definitely not on the way.

We still understand perfectly well that only jackals yapping towards the dead lions.

As long as our generation is alive, the great People's Artist Vasily Semenovich Lanovoy will live. In memory, in great films, in their roles on stage and screen.

And, as practice shows, even the younger generations have enough honor and conscience to trample the jackal. Lanovoy will be remembered for a very long time. But the Krastashevskys must die into oblivion.

Vasily Semenovich showed us a lot with his images and taught us a lot. As these days have shown, he had, is and will be the most important award - people's appreciation. Therefore, you can be calm in this moment - the people will never give offense to their favorites.

No wonder that the highest gratitude to the artist is the people's ...
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  1. Malver
    Malver 4 February 2021 10: 06
    +25
    To wisely live life, you need to know a lot.
    Two important rules to remember for a start:
    It's better to starve than to eat anything,
    And it's better alone than with just anyone !!!
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 4 February 2021 10: 14
      +27
      Don't forget about Pavka Korchagin ...
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 4 February 2021 12: 06
        -6
        "Tell me who your friend is and I'll tell you who you are." (WITH)
        I do not shield the scoundrels rejoicing in the death of the Great Actor. Moreover, I openly despise vileness / baseness inappropriate for a person ... Nevertheless, one must be reasonable in choosing friends. For "useful acquaintances" with villains are no better. Respectful communication with the recidivist villain is support / indulgence in his cursed designs, nothing else - aiding / serving the Devil, not deserving of justification.
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        2. zenion
          zenion 9 February 2021 16: 06
          0
          Jackals don't kick a dead lion. They bark at him, but from afar. These are all Tabaki jackals, loyal servants of Sher Khan while he is alive.
      2. Alien From
        Alien From 4 February 2021 18: 00
        +10
        Lanovoy will not be forgotten! An exceptional person, with a capital letter! And jackals share a share!
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 4 February 2021 11: 19
      +17
      No wonder that the highest gratitude to the artist is the people's ...

      Novel! Rather, the highest praise for an artist is popular recognition. This is almost the same as a folk song.
      It was not worth stopping to those jackals who can only bite a dead lion.
      Vasily Lanovoy took place not only as a person, but also showed individuality in the skill of an artist. Yes! To play in such a way that tears come to people's eyes is a given from above.
      Vasily Lanovoy, one of my favorite artists, will remain in our memory forever. Unlike those shameless jackals, on whose grave mounds there will not even be a tablet.
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 6 February 2021 20: 40
        -1
        Skomorokhov wrote a good article. Because he writes on orders, I doubt it was an impulse of the soul. Lanovoy VELik and a glimpse of greatness should not fall on the author of the article.
    3. Kart
      Kart 4 February 2021 11: 38
      +2
      Do not go children with anyone and for whom at all rallies.
      Moreover, you are not starving.
    4. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 4 February 2021 11: 58
      +10
      Quote: Malver
      It's better to starve than to eat anything,
      And it's better alone than with just anyone !!!

      Omar Khayyam has been translated by many. I like this thought more in the translation of O.B. Rumer:
      You better starve, than what horrible there is,
      And it's better to be alone than with anyone.
      1. Malver
        Malver 4 February 2021 12: 23
        -2
        Umari Hayem in the Persian way
      2. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 4 February 2021 12: 30
        +16
        I FULLY agree with Roman that fellow countryman Vasily Semyonovich Lanovoy is a wonderful Man who lived as he played and played as he lived, a great artist who forever entered the history of Soviet / Russian art, cinema, who will be remembered for a long time, a great patriot of his Motherland who influenced the fate and left an indelible mark on the hearts of people.

        I saw Lanovoy on stage in Vakhtangov and at one time congratulated him on his birthday: we were born with him on the same day, I always remembered (and will remember) him in my DR.

        And Alexander Krastoshevsky is a vile, disgusting, corrupt and vile city ... but, spitting on the dead, a rootless cosmopolitan who has no Motherland and only earns money in Russia (who pays him for what?).

        It is VERY sorry that there is no law in Russia now about throwing out of the border any obvious rubbish, enemies of Russia and Russians. And that it is not practiced in Russia now.
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 4 February 2021 14: 35
          +7
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          Alexander Krastoshevsky is a vile, vile, corrupt and vile city ... but, spitting on the dead, a rootless cosmopolitan who has no homeland and only earns money in Russia (who pays him for what?). It's a pity that ..

          For some reason, officers at the end of their service are often deprived of the right to travel; why does the budget continue to pay like krastoshevskims ... for a caponier
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    6. Pushkar
      Pushkar 4 February 2021 17: 23
      +1
      Quote: Malver
      To wisely live life, you need to know a lot.
      Two important rules to remember for a start:
      It's better to starve than to eat anything,
      And it's better alone than with just anyone !!!

      Omar Khayyam
  2. paul3390
    paul3390 4 February 2021 10: 08
    +22
    Old man Ecclesiastes was wrong - a lion, even a dead one, is much, much better than a still living jackal ..
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 4 February 2021 11: 16
      +6
      Quote: paul3390
      Old man Ecclesiastes was wrong - a lion, even a dead one, is much, much better than a still living jackal ..

      You've misinterpreted the Scripture. Ecclesiastes 9: 4 says: "Whoever is between the living, there is still hope, for even a living dog is better than a dead lion."
      In English it is exactly the same: "Anyone who is among the living has hope - even a live dog is better off than a dead lion!"
      I wonder what the original Hebrew says.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 4 February 2021 11: 21
        -6
        How do you know that I have misinterpreted if you don’t read Aramaic or Hebrew ?? belay what
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 4 February 2021 11: 23
          +8
          To see that you have perverted the spirit and letter of Scripture, the Russian and English translations officially accepted by the churches are enough.
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 4 February 2021 11: 33
            -3
            If you had bothered to take an interest, and not engage in pompousness and attempts to show off knowledge, you would find that the thesis "Better a live dog than a dead lion" is commonly used not only in Russian culture, but also in Italian as "Better a live donkey, than a dead doctor, "and so on. All of them go back most obviously to one source .. So - the claims are not to me.
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 4 February 2021 11: 53
              +5
              Why are you trying to argue with me? Argue with Scripture; I just gave relevant quotes. And they usually try to stick labels like "clergy" when there are no more weighty arguments.
              1. Fat
                Fat 4 February 2021 13: 16
                +2
                Colleague Nagant. Don't get attached to words. What is important to you? Your polished statements or the Truth as it is?
        2. indy424
          indy424 5 February 2021 21: 01
          0
          it is necessary to read this way: better a live dog ...
      2. zenion
        zenion 4 February 2021 14: 51
        +1
        Surprisingly, Paul did not write that Solomon was right, he wrote that it was Solomon's mistake. It was Solomon who spoke under the pseudonym Ecclesiastes.
        1. Fat
          Fat 4 February 2021 17: 55
          0
          I'm not good at theology. I dare not argue. Here you, my comrade, a monk, Father Seraphim, could be an opponent, But he has no time - service. He reads us sometimes. If it must, he will speak out.
          A very smart person.
      3. martin-159
        martin-159 5 February 2021 16: 40
        0
        And Ecclesiastes is not an old man but a book
  3. Svarog
    Svarog 4 February 2021 10: 10
    +20
    Among the liberal public, unfortunately, there are a lot of bad and boorish ones .. that they brought up ..
    But the split in society is becoming more and more obvious .. and the liberal authorities are to blame for it, which decided to make themselves uncontested.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 4 February 2021 10: 14
      +35
      the liberal authorities are to blame

      The recipe exists ..

      1. Lexus
        Lexus 4 February 2021 12: 22
        +6
        They have not been able to finish building the "apart-hotel" for 15 years. If only to motivate "in a galley" way.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 4 February 2021 12: 24
          +6
          Nothing. Comrade Stalin left us some good recipes for stimulating such an audience .. wink
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 4 February 2021 12: 45
            0
            Indulging the terror and calling for reprisals against the dissenters, their leaders and hangers-on, without realizing it, thoughtlessly signed in agreement with reciprocal cruelty.
    2. tasha
      tasha 4 February 2021 10: 59
      +1
      and the liberal authorities are to blame for it, which decided to make themselves uncontested.
      Do you see some contradiction in this phrase? Something reminiscent of "I will teach you the freedom to love" ... wink
  4. Egoza
    Egoza 4 February 2021 10: 10
    +20
    Bravo, Roman! I subscribe to every word! Even in the smallest episode, V.S. Lanovoy played with full dedication, put his whole soul into it! Remember how he is looking for the trail of the killer of his friend in the film Ogarev 6. Near the cash register on the platform - yes, in one episode he could have been given a folk song! And what about the monologue about the Motherland and responsibility for Russia in the film "The Young Lady-Peasant"? He is a GREAT artist and a GREAT person !!!!
    Only such a Krastashevsky and others like him should receive in full for their tyfkanie. And even more so for statements about the Motherland!
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 4 February 2021 10: 16
      +18
      Well, if the author was ashamed to post a photo of this organism, then it is not a question to find his photos on the network like dirt. From different angles it is enough for identification. Well, there, according to the circumstances ... whoever has what in his hand will ... and say hello
      All he needs is money ... a couple of lamas.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 4 February 2021 10: 43
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      Only such a Krastashevsky and others like him should receive in full for their tyfkanie. And even more so for statements about the Motherland!

      To deprive Russia of citizenship and send this inhuman! Let him look for another satisfying place!
      1. Fat
        Fat 4 February 2021 13: 23
        +6
        Do not! A pocket for such people is the most painful place. Let it burn, a couple of millions will fall into another, more necessary and sensible place. He created the conditions for himself in the press to be horrified. That is why it merged. Let him say goodbye to his beloved Porsche, he ran into the wrong Person.
    3. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 4 February 2021 13: 39
      +4
      But you know, with such sublime and enlightened Krastashevskys, many smart and well-mannered people are definitely not on the way.

      Only such a Krastashevsky and others like him should receive in full for their tyfkanie.


      That is why normal people are not on their way with the state. These Krastashevskys are everywhere, clogging up all the sewer pipes. Around them all feces rose and flooded Up.
      Soon we will all, not only get our feet dirty, but we will also drown up to our throats in it.
      And, there is no one to clean. They are also in charge of cleaning offices.
      Here is such a cycle of feces in nature.
      1. skullcap
        skullcap 4 February 2021 14: 32
        +4
        Quote: DED_peer_DED
        That is why normal people are not on their way with the state.

        The state is the greatest gift of Destiny to the people. That is why the Jews fought to restore their state.
        And what it will be - depends on us. But it is necessary to protect it from destruction more than the apple of an eye. And strengthen it as much as possible. This is exactly what Vasily Semyonovich did - a blessed memory to him.
        But the parasites of peoples are looking for all possible loopholes to eat fat and not work at the same time. The easiest way to do this now is in art; all avant-garde and lip-slapping in front of television cameras. This is what anthropoids like this jackal do.
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 4 February 2021 14: 37
          +2
          But it is necessary to protect it from destruction more than the apple of an eye. And strengthen it as much as possible.

          The state must fulfill the function of protecting its citizens from an external enemy, in the first place.
          But, when all the enemies are already INSIDE, who needs it, respectively? To those who are already inside and for their opposite purposes?
  5. clerk
    clerk 4 February 2021 10: 13
    +6
    Written mentally, although for my taste with a lot of pathos. It is not clear only - what does anti-Semitism have to do with it, if Krastoszewski is a purely Polish surname?
    1. pmkemcity
      pmkemcity 4 February 2021 10: 34
      +8
      In some areas of Germany and Austria at the end of the 90th century, the proportion of Jews who had hereditary surnames was significant, and in the Prague Jewish community, the owners of such surnames even made up the majority, yet most of the Jews of Eastern and Central Europe still did not have hereditary surnames until the end of the XNUMXth century ... Nevertheless, the need to streamline the collection of taxes and recruitment services led to the fact that at the turn of the XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries in Austria (Austria-Hungary), the Russian Empire and the German states, laws were passed that obliged the Jewish population of these countries to adopt hereditary surnames. After the partitions of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, over XNUMX% of all Ashkenazi Jews lived in these countries, so that the vast majority of the modern surnames of Ashkenazi Jews date back to this era.
      The Austrian Empire was the first state to introduce compulsory assignment of hereditary surnames to Jews. According to the law issued in 1787 by Emperor Joseph I], the nameless Jews were obliged to take their surname, which from that moment became hereditary. The law did not apply to Jews who already had surnames. There were no formal restrictions on the choice of a new surname in the law. However, if a Jew did not choose a surname for himself, then an official responsible for implementing the law was forcibly assigned to him. In Eastern Galicia, where a large part of the Jews of Austria lived and which was removed from the center and, accordingly, from the control of the capital's authorities, officials began to abuse the right to assign surnames at their discretion: for the right to receive a harmonious surname, they extorted bribes from Jews, and those who refused to pay or did not have the means for this, assigned names with offensive or comical meanings. Thus, the names Krautkopf ("cabbage head"), Drachenblut ("dragon's blood"), Oxenschwants ("oxtail"), etc. arose, up to the offensive ones, like Canalgeruch ("ditch stench") or Bleder ("feeble-minded , dumbass ").
      1. clerk
        clerk 4 February 2021 11: 14
        +1
        Thank you for the interesting information, but Krastoshevsky is a Polish surname, not a Yiddish-German one.
        1. pmkemcity
          pmkemcity 4 February 2021 11: 15
          +4
          Quote: clerk
          Thank you for the interesting information, but Krastoshevsky is a Polish surname, not a Yiddish-German one.

          His mother is Georgian ... was.
  6. Cowbra
    Cowbra 4 February 2021 10: 14
    +1
    The author, your categorical mistake is this. Who is this ... How is it? Krestoshevsky?
    Well, let it bark, whatever - the wind carries
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 4 February 2021 10: 26
      +12
      Quote: Cowbra
      Well, let it bark, whatever - the wind carries

      Oh no! His youth is listening and reading. And the channel "Culture" - there was definitely something connected with it. And he himself "caught himself" after he was, apparently, urgently turned from there. So you need to, you need to know this individual!
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 4 February 2021 11: 06
        -3
        Elena, you are, of course, wonderful. But only one thing - "young people listen and read." Strugatsky, "OZ", as far as I remember. "It takes the talent of a writer, and what is important - the talent of the reader"
        And further. I don't understand such a thing. Have you been raised? You. clowns - there are mostly 15 to 20 years old. Did your ancestors feed you? Ancestors - let's say, stupid people. Build your own world, not moronic! Oops. Elena, will you tell me - is there at least one creative idea they have? Well, they put Rogozin in prison. will shoot Putin - and ... What will they do?
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 4 February 2021 14: 19
          +4
          Oops. Elena, will you tell me - is there at least one creative idea they have? Well, they put Rogozin in prison. will shoot Putin - and ... What will they do?

          Since there are no ideas, then there is nowhere to think about "What to do". We have already lost these generations, with "help" from outside and sent inside. Further, I think it will not be better, because this "rust" has eaten our entire world, with our connivance and desire to "live well."
          How many million of our citizens fell for external "values" in the early 90s, how many of them were supported by Eltsin and all this kolobrod? Tens of million
          Personally, even before the arrival of Eltsin, he almost had a fight with his agitator when he said in the company that "these" new "will be worse than the old ...". I have never voted. And I saw right through them.
          Everyone would be so, a little more thoughtful, you see, and the kalobrod would not have taken place. But we have that they have us.
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 4 February 2021 16: 40
          +4
          Quote: Cowbra
          you say - is there at least one creative idea they have? Well, they put Rogozin in prison. will shoot Putin - and ... What will they do?

          Either they will quarrel for power, or they will sell themselves to the West, they will wait for someone to "democratically put on the throne." And to build the world on your own ... well, you have to work, and by yourself. Unfortunately, if this was not taught at home, then indeed, they lost a generation. So far, this is "the dragonfly hopping summer sang red." And if you do not expand now agitation both in universities and in schools, and show responsibility in the implementation of laws, oh, how far can you go with "crap"
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 4 February 2021 16: 59
            +1
            You know ... About the lost generation. My son doesn't bother with such nonsense. he has another goal in life - my granddaughter is soon one year old, and he will build the world for her so that she likes it. The daughter of my neighbor's VRN - she will turn 18 one of these days, she does not have to be bored in the Ministry of Emergencies either. I don’t see her with bulging eyes and a rubber duck ... Well, for some reason, it seems to me that this generation is not lost, they will plug us in the belt, it's just that this generation has scale - useless, foaming, bubbling. shouting loud nonsense ... Christmas trees, such, by the way, are easy to teach, according to the principle, whatever the soldier does, if only ... I will give these children for a week ... I'm not sure that there will be no light bodily, only I’ll say right away - they will understand a little in a week where life is, and where ... Maidan and a saucepan.
            PiSi: one of the episodes, then for the first time I returned from Donbass, the rally will be piled up at Manezhka. On December 30, as far as I remember, they buy all the gifts for NG. I ran, sir) I got joked that the cops in the cordon stood with shields OUTSIDE, they did not hold back the protesters, but they defended them. Looks like many who tried to "thank". By the way, the truth is)))
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 4 February 2021 17: 10
              +3
              Quote: Cowbra
              My son doesn't bother with such nonsense. he has another goal in life

              Well, I have the same. I'm not talking about everyone, but about those who take to the streets like this, what can happen to them later if they fall into power. It is necessary to return discipline and the rule of law. And teach this, but not on the Kultura channel. This morning ("Morning of Russia") there was just a conversation with Shakhnazarov on whether it is worth introducing as a separate subject "national treasure, in the form of films ...." But how to explain to their children? Or not? And will they understand? " And you can clearly hear “Oh, no need for Soviet films. It’s better not to show them at all, but if you show them, then there is“ War and Peace. ”And again: Personally, I am firmly convinced that the state should have an ideology. Otherwise it will fall into swamp.
      2. for
        for 4 February 2021 11: 15
        -3
        Quote: Egoza
        His youth is listening and reading. And the channel "Culture

        Yes, she only reads it, from morning until breakfast.
        Can it (dog feces) be buried deeper (or better in a bag), and not scattered.
    2. Thompson
      Thompson 4 February 2021 10: 31
      +5
      Everything has its place. And tolerance too. But everything has a criterion after which it is already overkill
  7. URAL72
    URAL72 4 February 2021 10: 16
    +9
    In the old days, in Russia such people were impaled.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 4 February 2021 10: 41
      +3
      Who knows? Can this CAM sit down on (three letters) every evening?
  8. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 4 February 2021 10: 17
    +10
    The word "putinoid" is already a diagnosis, no matter how it relates to GDP.
    1. Fat
      Fat 4 February 2021 13: 35
      +2
      Vladimir! good drinks I agree! Indicator of infantilism. That is to say, "childhood" in thoughts and judgments ...
  9. Mouse
    Mouse 4 February 2021 10: 18
    +14
    who is Krastoshevsky ... just a louse ...
    Lanovoy is a human being !!!!

    IN MEMORY OF V.S. LANOVO

    He is the honor and conscience of our people,
    He is a great patriot of the country of the Soviets!
    There was undoubtedly a breed in it!
    He loved the verses of the great poets!

    He did not betray anyone in his life,
    Not Captain Gray, not Barabbas.
    Nowhere and never was he superfluous,
    And he always lived as if according to the charter!

    He is a man - a legend, he is made of steel!
    We've lost an entire era!
    He did not serve the theater for medals,
    I would have climbed Calvary for the Motherland!

    He played the role ahead of him for two hundred years:
    He is Vronsky, he is Korchagin, he is Octavius,
    He is prince Calaf and he is the iron Felix,
    And in the Pushkin "Blizzard" he is Porfiry ...

    Gone is the titan, talent, romantic!
    He left, but did not close the door tightly.
    And he will be from the screens, like a messenger
    Tell us how he loved and believed!
  10. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 4 February 2021 10: 23
    +13
    The government itself divorces such citizens and themselves on a salary ..... and how many of these teaches? Who are they teaching?
    1. 210ox
      210ox 4 February 2021 11: 44
      +4
      This is an interesting little thing. Doesn't consider it shameful to consider himself a "valuable employee". The reaction of his employer would be interesting.
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 4 February 2021 14: 24
        +7
        The reaction of his employer would be interesting.

        Ага.
        Very interesting.

        One gang.

        1. 210ox
          210ox 4 February 2021 15: 28
          +4
          Is this Kultura TV channel? If so, the country is over.
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 6 February 2021 18: 40
          0
          "Gentlemen, this is a freak show, I bought a ticket to the theater ...!?"
    2. 210ox
      210ox 4 February 2021 15: 31
      +2
      Who are they teaching? Economists, diplomats ... Those who in ten years will be responsible for the country.
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 4 February 2021 10: 25
    +7
    No wonder that the highest gratitude to the artist is the people's ...

    Neither add nor diminish.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 8 February 2021 19: 40
      +1
      Both the article and the comments leave the best impression. There is an interesting comment below, Victor. Comrade Deniska wrote a great comment about the correspondence of the main characters of the films to social needs. For example, a woman-leader in the film "Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears" ". I watched this film for a long time, I don't remember any special details. But it seems to me that turning to the film is a request for socialism and the life that was before. Too bad a colleague didn't write about age groups. And what do you think? After all, under socialism you lived much longer than I did. And further. Do today's youth understand that there used to be a different system? Looking at the protesters, it seems to me that they do not understand this at all. A complete mess in their heads .....
  12. for
    for 4 February 2021 10: 25
    +2
    I wonder how much time the author spent looking for this dirt, in the vastness of the Internet - garbage can.
    My opinion is to artists, athletes .... you shouldn't get into politics so deeply, especially to be publicly on whose side (God must be in your soul).
    1. Fat
      Fat 4 February 2021 13: 44
      +9
      hi And Lanovoy, who got into politics? He outlined His point of view - is this subject to discussion? Is it forbidden for famous people to be Citizens and have the Right to their point of view? (Faith in God is also a private matter of a citizen. Do you have doubts?)
      1. for
        for 4 February 2021 13: 55
        -1
        Quote: Thick
        Is it forbidden for famous people

        And I forbade anyone.
        My opinion to artists
        1. Fat
          Fat 4 February 2021 14: 12
          +4
          Thank you. Now public people have the right to be citizens without public comment ... laughing
          1. for
            for 4 February 2021 14: 43
            0
            Quote: Thick
            Now public people

            And the more public a person, the more modest he should be. He was popular without any comments and will remain. Why do not other equally popular (not pop music) climb into this swamp?
            1. Fat
              Fat 4 February 2021 14: 47
              +3
              BA! The most public people in the Federation are politicians themselves, not artists.
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 4 February 2021 14: 31
        -2
        Faith in God is also a private matter of a citizen.

        Servant of God Basil enrolled in his memorial. Together with other worthy people.
        But comparing God ... and this very, well, as his ... servant, would also be unfair.
        But this is there, then they will explain. If it is not clear now.
        1. for
          for 4 February 2021 15: 06
          0
          Together with other worthy people.

          By worthy you mean yourself. Isn't everyone equal before him?
          And the point is "guess it yourself."
          And explain where and when. If I have to answer, I won't go to beg. If sins could not be forgiven, they would sin less. And then he played a dirty trick, prayed and went on.
          1. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 4 February 2021 15: 24
            +4
            By worthy you mean yourself.

            On my list for the calmed ones? Yourself? Is it me here and there at the same time? Have a snack.
            If I have to answer, I won't go to beg.

            Clear. Some are in good health and some are for peace.
            I finished the discussion.
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 8 February 2021 19: 25
            0
            ...... if it were impossible ...... sins, they would sin less ......

            But in this respect, the Ancient Mayans are interesting. For each committed sin they had only once in their life a ritual of confession. It was impossible to confess the same sin the second time! It is possible only in those that have not yet confessed. A very revealing tradition. Christians don't have that!
      3. not main
        not main 5 February 2021 01: 10
        +1
        Quote: Thick
        hi And Lanovoy, who got into politics? He outlined His point of view - is this subject to discussion? Is it forbidden for famous people to be Citizens and have the Right to their point of view? (Faith in God is also a private matter of a citizen. Do you have doubts?)

        God have mercy! And here are the minuses, for what?
  13. Thompson
    Thompson 4 February 2021 10: 29
    +3
    better and more completely not to say -
    our opposition has once again shown its true "face". More, however, similar to the muzzle.
    1. Kart
      Kart 4 February 2021 11: 44
      +1
      The more she shows her "face" - the better. Less chance of being zombified.
      Crowds of aggressive, stupid youngsters rage on social networks "for the truth."
      Grown people, even those who also do not like the authorities read this, and are horrified.
      And this is good.
      One of the main mistakes of the authors of the revolution in Russia is to allow such people to shout whatever they want.
  14. yehat2
    yehat2 4 February 2021 10: 33
    +5
    Where do such ghouls come from, and arrogant to the brim
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 4 February 2021 10: 47
      +8
      I think this is a consequence of the complete impunity of communication in the modern virtual world .. I doubt very much that he would dare to say such words while looking people in the eyes. Too great a chance to snag a snout, and the liberals understand this very well .. In the old days for libel one could easily get a challenge to a duel, now - everything is absolutely unpunished. This is what the trash uses ..
      In general, the thesis about defending one's honor and dignity in court has always struck me as somewhat strange. For whether they are damaged or not, only you can judge. And to receive money as a satisfaction is generally prohibitively vulgar. How can honor be measured in rubles ??? But alas - the world is shrinking ..
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 4 February 2021 10: 55
        +5
        It seems to me that he looks like a frequent type of visitors to St. Petersburg clubs, who begin to dismantle, then they begin to beat them in the face on the street, and they only yell "security, security."
        And the guards are standing by and looking with approval.
      2. Yuri Tverdokhleb
        Yuri Tverdokhleb 4 February 2021 11: 06
        +4
        Pavel, yesterday Solovyov had a broadcast about the complete defenselessness of citizens. This and others like them use the complete indifference of government agencies, and this is a direct path to the collapse of Russia.
      3. Fat
        Fat 4 February 2021 14: 04
        +6
        Paul! The claimant pays himself, out of his own pocket. But you probably didn’t come across "miracles of judicial practice". I'll tell you.
        One, a very good friend of mine, defended a woman, whom her "ex" climbed with fists. Down the stairs! The offended person filed a lawsuit .... Obvious violence - beating!
        Well, the plaintiff won the court. The "villain" was condemned. Sentenced to "conditionally" correctional labor
        The judge, as it turned out, was a woman with a difficult fate and mocked the plaintiff and his lawyer to the fullest.
        Like this!
  15. Deniska999
    Deniska999 4 February 2021 10: 33
    +8
    The strengthening of the power party in Russia, as we have seen in recent days, contradicts the demands of the majority of Russians for the type of political system in the country.
    Two years ago, a group of sociologists Belanovsky-Dmitriev-Nikolskaya at their famous focus groups (famous - because the results of their focus groups always predicted the main request of the majority of Russians; for example, already in January 2011 they predicted “swamp protests” that happened a year later ) showed what kind of society and leader Russians want.
    They used the 1999 methodology in focus groups - which movie characters the Russians would prefer.

    Then, in early 1999, it turned out that the Russians needed a leader from the group of "cool" people, the first four looked like this: Gleb Zheglov, Stirlitz, Marshal Zhukov, Peter the First (Zhukov took first place). Then sociologists wrote: “In the post of president, Russians want to see an aggressive, not a caring leader, hoping that it is he who is able to establish order in Russia. As a result, Yeltsin's entourage found the most intelligent of these four characters - Stirlitz-Putin.
    (A separate brief digression - in the novel by Yulian Semenov "Despair", Stirlitz's unenviable fate is described, which is not represented in the film. In the late 1940s, he returned to the USSR, the intelligence officer was arrested and made the main person involved in the "alliance of Jews and Americans with the German Gestapo. Stirlitz, "half-blind, toothless, with broken legs," is still released.

    So, at focus groups in 2019, the Russians chose the following main two characters desired at the head of Russia: Professor Preobrazhensky ("Heart of a Dog"), Ekaterina ("Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears"). There are no more security forces in the first four. The Russians lost the request for a “strong hand”.

    With Catherine, everything is clear - this is a selfmadewoman, an honest, fair, competent person from the bottom, who knows his job, who knows how to organize and establish production. This is part of the request for the normalization of the Russian economy, for throwing thieves out of it.
    And with Preobrazhensky it is more interesting. On behalf of the street dog Sharik (that is, in fact, on behalf of the "deep people" of that time) Bulgakov gives the following characterization to his hero:
    “This one eats abundantly and does not steal, this one will not kick! But he himself is not afraid of anyone, and is not afraid because he is always full. "
    This is part of the political request of Russians - for a competent specialist with a bourgeois orientation. A Europeanized city dweller, wise with experience. In the book (film) the professor is 60 years old. According to the convictions of that time, he is most likely a cadet (it is known that Bulgakov copied his image from his uncle, the famous gynecologist Pokrovsky, who sympathized with the cadets). Those. in politics, this is a moderately right person.

    It is symptomatic that Preobrazhensky is also for strong order, and it does not matter what it is - Tsarist or Soviet: “Policeman! This and only this! And it doesn't matter at all whether he is wearing a badge or wearing a red cap. "
    By combining the two characters, we get a request for a moderately leftist economy (Catherine) and a moderately rightist politics (Preobrazhensky). And once again I will repeat about one more facet of the request - the silovik and the "state of emergency" he establishes is no longer needed by the Russians, in contrast to the 1999 request.

    Later, in an interview, the co-author of this study, Sergei Belanovsky, also explained about the request for action, the methods of changing society among Russians:
    According to our focus groups, we do not see any aggression from society. We have not heard the words that we will go and beat someone up, kill someone. Nevertheless (there is a request): "It is necessary to build up resistance by legal means." You need to demand compliance with the laws. As, in fact, it was in the Soviet Union in the late 70s and early 80s. "
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 4 February 2021 10: 46
      +7
      Quote: Deniska999
      You need to demand compliance with the laws. As, in fact, it was in the Soviet Union in the late 70s and early 80s. "

      Interesting research. Now it is clear why a criminal case was opened against Platoshkin.
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 4 February 2021 10: 50
      +7
      Russians need a leader from a group of "cool" people, the first four looked like this: Gleb Zheglov, Stirlitz, Marshal Zhukov, Peter the First (Zhukov took first place).

      Doubtful .. If we recall the scandalous project of the name of Russia, then Comrade Stalin was in the lead with an enormous margin, up to a tremendous boost in arrogance. So he is the image of the real ruler desired by people ... For obvious reasons.
  16. Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 February 2021 10: 40
    +4
    Article bullshit! Can this Krastoshevsky be put in prison or not? Then other jackals will be afraid to bark. Well, well, we will be outraged, But the jackals will continue to bark, shoot anti-Soviet films, say that our Motherland is *****. This is what the deputy Kalashnikov said. After all, these are all phenomena of the same order.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 4 February 2021 10: 54
      +5
      Why plant, again "hero-martyr" to do, and he will not be corrected? kick out with a "white" ticket from the TV .. let's see what in life, except how to rinse his tongue ..
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 4 February 2021 10: 55
      +3
      Can this Krastoshevsky be put in prison or not?

      If I had my way, I would have to reintroduce the institution of duel without fail .. Let's say - by the decision of the court of honor, which determines whether there is a reason for it or not. In order not to repeat the murder for insignificant reasons, characteristic of past centuries. But a duel is a must, otherwise I see no way to force some people to follow their filthy broomstick ..
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 4 February 2021 11: 30
        0
        Quote: paul3390
        But a duel is a must, otherwise I see no way to force some people to follow their filthy broomstick ..

        There is a pomelo and just gestures and other body movements. yes
        Vysotsky immediately reminded:
      2. Fat
        Fat 4 February 2021 17: 34
        0
        Our inadequate Duma discussed the "Durasov Code" quite recently. The chip did not go through. wassat
        In 2018, a draft of the Dueling Code of the Russian Federation was submitted to the Russian parliament, completely identical to the code of Durasov, in which the concept of "nobleman" was replaced by the term "state and municipal employee", and "commoner" was replaced by the term "citizen". The initiative, as it turned out, was more of a joke than a real proposal. Less than 2 weeks later, the bill was recalled by the initiator and removed from the State Duma's consideration by its specialized committee. Wiki ...fellow drinks laughing
    3. Mikhail Tynda
      Mikhail Tynda 4 February 2021 10: 57
      +4
      I don't quite agree. The atmosphere around such individuals should be such that they would beg to plant them. Not only the state, but we ourselves, the whole society, must reject such moral monsters. Whatever he could not even buy loaves of bread in the store, he was afraid to walk down the street because they would spit. Not beaten, but spit.
  17. Tank hard
    Tank hard 4 February 2021 10: 41
    +6
    with another - our opposition showed once again its true "face". More, however, similar to the muzzle.

    Roman, this is not an opposition at all. Slag ... I have a strong suspicion that a sane opposition is not allowed to form. Then you can really lose power. And those who are with us today plays a role On the one hand, the oppositions are very convenient, because you can't even look at them without disgust, it is immediately clear that they will pass the milestones and that's it. when they come to power. But here you can play too. The people are really tired ... IMHO. hi
    1. clerk
      clerk 4 February 2021 10: 54
      -2
      Not "they don't give her", but she has nothing to form on. "Politics is a concentrated expression of the economy" (c), and the economy works according to capitalist principles, but 2/3 belongs to the state. So you have to create opposition not in essence, but in form.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 4 February 2021 10: 58
        +1
        Quote: clerk
        and the economy works according to capitalist principles,

        Do you think that a sane opposition in the Russian Federation is not possible in principle? And what you said here is the main obstacle?
        1. clerk
          clerk 4 February 2021 11: 09
          0
          PMSM - yes, but I don't see this as a problem. The classic was a genius political strategist and knew what he was talking about. In our country, the opposition is created not for real politics, but for playing off a pair of political sympathies - for the right - Zhirik, for socialists - Mironov (formerly there was Yavlinsky), for "for the West and against all" - Navalny, for the commies - Zyuganov, for the current work - Edros (over the past 30 years - this is the EMNP 4th or 5th party in power). And there is no need to break the "obstacle" - in principle, the system works both in politics and in the economy.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 4 February 2021 11: 14
            +2
            Quote: clerk
            Basically the system works

            And it seems to me that there are already some failures. The most significant is Khabarovsk, it is understandable. that the truck is there to the people - "nothing", the people freak out. Navalny, this is an empty phrase, but again Khabarovsk ... Something needs to be changed, and it will not take long to lose the country ... request
            1. clerk
              clerk 4 February 2021 12: 10
              -1
              It's hard for me to say "for Khabarovsk" - it's too far away, but I get the impression that this is either a clash of business interests between local and central officials, or the Liberal Democratic Party gave its "cover" to local criminals, which did not suit Moscow.
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 4 February 2021 12: 27
                +2
                Quote: clerk
                It's hard for me to say "for Khabarovsk" - it's too far away, but I get the impression that this is either a clash of business interests between local and central officials, or the Liberal Democratic Party gave its "cover" to local criminals, which did not suit Moscow.

                The point is not about the "roof" and the "centers", the point is that the people are really starting to express their protest. And the van. just an excuse.
                1. clerk
                  clerk 4 February 2021 12: 50
                  -2
                  How many people in Khabarovsk came out against the removal of Furgal and how many for Navalny?
                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 4 February 2021 19: 44
                    +2
                    Quote: clerk
                    How many people in Khabarovsk came out against the removal of Furgal and how many for Navalny?

                    Who cares how much ... People start marrying not them, Furgal and Navalny, but out of principle, out of protest. And if the government does not understand this, then the bell is already ringing for power. Roughly speaking, there is already fuel, the match has not yet struck. For example, if the protests start in several regions at the same time, and the protests are serious (not like with Navalny). In some regions, there simply will not be enough forces and means to localize and eliminate "fires". For "reoptimized" ... IMHO.
                    1. clerk
                      clerk 4 February 2021 21: 12
                      -1
                      I agree about excessive optimization, but so far I don't see any significant protest. There is psychological fatigue from Putin's personality, but so far it has not outweighed the understanding of the harm from a possible mess. It will be thinner when the brains of young people finally freeze.
                      1. Tank hard
                        Tank hard 4 February 2021 21: 26
                        +2
                        Quote: clerk
                        but so far I do not see any significant protest.

                        It's sad if they don't see. And he is. request
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 February 2021 11: 06
      +7
      Quote: Tank Hard
      I have a strong suspicion that a sane opposition is not allowed to form.

      A perfectly correct suspicion. Because if Putin had allowed the formation of a real opposition wing, then he would not have been president for sure.
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        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 February 2021 12: 42
          +2
          Quote: clerk
          Do you seriously believe that at this stage in Russia, without the direct support of the West, a serious opposition to Putin can form?

          It would have been formed long ago, and exclusively from our own forces, if not for V.V. Putin.
          Now many are dissatisfied with Putin, not only in the real sector of the economy, but, oddly enough, in the security forces, and in many other places. But the point is that in the existing organization of the state they cannot create a real opposition, because with such an attempt they will immediately lose their business / positions. In essence, it is permissible to rebel if the "rebel" leans against any permitted opposition, such as the Communist Party of the Russian Federation or the Liberal Democratic Party, since it exists for show and has no plans to take power in the country. But an attempt to create a real opposition will be immediately stopped.
          1. clerk
            clerk 4 February 2021 12: 49
            0
            The disaffected are not the opposition, but "down with Putin" (the option is - tired of Putin) is not a program.
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 February 2021 13: 34
              +4
              Quote: clerk
              The disaffected are not opposition

              You see, due to the circle of my contacts and some of my acquaintances and friends, I most likely know the situation better than you. Many of the owners of "factories, newspapers, ships" of average rank are dissatisfied with the economic course of Putin and would be ready to join the opposition. But they are not ready to become the instigators of the opposition, since they understand well what personal losses this will lead to them.
              1. clerk
                clerk 4 February 2021 14: 27
                -4
                It is precisely due to the fact that, unlike you, I look at the situation with my own eyes, and not through the prism of my circle of contacts, I can judge relatively objectively. 1) In Russia for more than 200 years it has been "zapadlo" to admit support for the current government. Navalny's protests showed the price of real discontent. And what you call discontent is more psychological fatigue from the personality. 2) Those who are dissatisfied with the current economic course have no real alternative to the current course. The alternatives that are offered here are bullshit, which in six months or a year will bring the country into a severe economic crisis, and everyone understands this.
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 February 2021 15: 13
                  +5
                  Quote: clerk
                  It is precisely due to the fact that, unlike you, I look at the situation with my own eyes, and not through the prism of my circle of communication, I can judge relatively objectively

                  (sigh) You are not even able to admit independence of thought in your opponent, but at the same time you are talking about your own objectivity.
                  Quote: clerk
                  Navalny's protests showed the price of real discontent.

                  Only in your "objective" imagination. You cannot even understand that if a person is against Putin, it does not mean at all that he is for Navalny. Let me put it more simply - more or less serious people, ready for opposition, do not perceive Navalny as a person at all and will never go anywhere for him, and will not support him.
                  As I said, we are talking about a REAL opposition. And you are here talking about Navalny ...
                  Quote: clerk
                  And what you call discontent is more psychological personality fatigue

                  No, this is dissatisfaction with the current economic course
                  Quote: clerk
                  Those dissatisfied with the current economic course have no real alternative to the current course. The alternatives that are offered here are bullshit

                  I will not even ask what your confidence is based on. I just see that you do not know ANYTHING about the Russian economy. You don’t understand that, since 2008, the real sector of the economy has survived not thanks to, but in spite of government policy
                  1. clerk
                    clerk 4 February 2021 15: 40
                    0
                    1) You referred to familiar businessmen. This is just the lack of independence of thinking 2) The real opposition has a real program. What is the program of your so-called. real opposition? Well, except for the theses on duty - to distribute money to everyone and reduce taxes to zero? 3) Let's first define the concepts - give an example of an enterprise in the real sector in your understanding. Then we will analyze it specifically.
                    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 February 2021 16: 54
                      +3
                      Quote: clerk
                      1) You referred to familiar businessmen. This is just the lack of independence of thinking

                      I refer to businessmen I know in order to explain to you that dissatisfaction with the economic course of the government and Putin was not invented by me, but really exists. Moreover, not only among local bloggers, or people who, by the will of fate, ended up at the very bottom of the modern social "food pyramid", but among quite successful people. For you, it somehow, in a completely unclear way, was transformed into the idea that I am just a repeater of someone's opinion. You have not seen any other interpretation of what I have said.
                      Eugene, I'm very sorry, but I have to state your inability to make simple conclusions.
                      Quote: clerk
                      The real opposition has a real program

                      I wrote to you in Russian and white
                      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                      It would have been formed long ago, and exclusively from our own forces, if not for V.V. Putin.

                      и
                      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                      But an attempt to create a real opposition will be immediately stopped.

                      That is, there are people who are dissatisfied with the current state of affairs, including among the quite successful, and they cannot express their opinion by creating a real opposition party.
                      Which of my words is not clear to you? And if everything is clear, then how do you order to understand your
                      Quote: clerk
                      What is the program of your so-called real opposition?

                      They write to you that it is IMPOSSIBLE to create a real opposition, and you propose to me to present the program of something that does not exist? :)))) Do you have such a word - "logic" - does it mean anything at all? :)))
                      If we talk about business claims to the current state of affairs, then it boils down to
                      1) The jumping dollar exchange rate. Business does not believe that this is justified and is confident that this could have been avoided
                      2) Services of banks, which are insufficient and excessively expensive compared to the services of foreign banks. At the same time, foreign loans cannot be used by virtue of p1
                      3) an ineffective system of public procurement and state defense order, with the extreme corruption of officials
                      4) Excessive tax burden
                      5) Profanities of business support - the state spends a lot of money on this, but is extremely ineffective
                      6) The fall in the level of education - in fact, the enterprise today must train its employees-workers by itself
                      Enough for you, or continue?
                      Quote: clerk
                      Let's first define the concepts

                      "After such a classic phrase, I am absolutely unable to resist you, nasty one!" (with)
                      Quote: clerk
                      give an example of a real sector enterprise in your understanding

                      Plant
                      1. clerk
                        clerk 4 February 2021 17: 12
                        -2
                        1) There is discontent. The meaning of the question was specific and in scale. About the specifics will be further. 2) A program is how to solve problems. The party and the opposition need a program. No batch creation is required to develop a program. There is no program. CHTD
                      2. clerk
                        clerk 4 February 2021 17: 27
                        0
                        Will I answer item 3 about specific claims later? For now, I will ask you to say what the plant produces?
                      3. clerk
                        clerk 4 February 2021 18: 18
                        +1
                        3. 1) You can. Foreign exchange interventions (which will inflame the appetites of speculators and sink the gold reserves) or foreign exchange regulation (which will greatly strengthen the ruble (up to about 40 rubles per dollar), but will lower exporters and budget revenues. 2) Crying about high interest rates on loans has been going on since 1992, when they went off scale for many hundreds of percent per annum. Loan rates are in line with inflation in the country. Foreigners are also not benefactors and will not lend below market. 3) Either there must be a specific claim to the system, or to a specific competition. Without specifics - this is "Yaroslavna's cry". Officials also complain that because of tenders they cannot choose a normal supplier and are forced to contact formally more profitable rogues. Officials are also not stupid and understand that how much it can really cost.
                      4. clerk
                        clerk 4 February 2021 21: 21
                        -1
                        3. 4) The excessive tax burden is the lyrics. Those who propose to reduce taxes must clearly (with specific figures for the next 5 years at least) show how they will compensate for lost income or reduce expenses. Duty cries - "due to the reserves of the Central Bank" or "less to steal" are not rolled. 5) And here the authorities will consider specific proposals with great interest. Just do not complain "do not give him, but give me, because he is bad, and I am good", namely system proposals "6) There is one" but "- the company must also somehow guarantee that it will provide these specialists with a good salary for Whatever happens, the state will train specialists at the expense of taxes, and they will not work in their specialty. 7) If you want, you can continue - I will try to answer
                      5. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 February 2021 06: 38
                        +4
                        Quote: clerk
                        And here the authorities will consider specific proposals with great interest. Just do not complain "do not give him, but give him to me, because he is bad, and I am good", namely systemic sentences "

                        You are a naive person :)))) At one time we tried to do this - I was a member of one Petersburg club of economists (informal), well, they were sent far and clearly.
                        Quote: clerk
                        Can. Foreign exchange interventions (which will whet the appetites of speculators and squeeze the gold reserves) or foreign exchange regulation (which will greatly strengthen the ruble (up to about 40 rubles per dollar), but will lower exporters and budget revenues.

                        You don't even know what you are writing about. I am telling you about the need for a STABLE ruble / dollar exchange rate, you are writing to me about the strengthening of the ruble. Do you understand at least a little about economics before teaching me?
                        Moreover, you do not know the basics of stock exchange business. A stable ruble exchange rate CANNOT inflame any speculators - it will not be interesting to speculate, they thrive in conditions of the ruble's "volatility".
                        Quote: clerk
                        If you wish, you can continue - I will try to answer

                        I don `t want. Sorry, but what you answer is this ... You are extremely far from economics
                      6. clerk
                        clerk 5 February 2021 09: 51
                        -1
                        1) Now I understand why you were sent with your proposals - the club of university students who read books really have nothing to do with the real economy - you can only shake the air. 2) You are our theoretical "stock exchange trader", when the market sees (and he sees) that the ruble exchange rate is constantly supported by the Central Bank's interventions, the demand for foreign currency begins to grow like an avalanche and the gold reserves begin to melt like spring snow. Of course, they don't write about this in your smart books, but this is the boring truth of life. If you don’t want to believe me, compare the dynamics of the exchange rate and gold reserves in 2014, approximately from spring (the most striking and close example). I don’t suggest the summer of 1998, because you then most likely walked under the table. 3) Of course, far from your theoretical one. And on how the exchange rate is established and what measures it is regulated by is much closer than your theoretical knowledge. And I strongly suspect that your knowledge of the real sector is the same theoretical - it is not for nothing that you avoided specifics about the plant. Apparently your hypothetical plant is also from a book example. You and your like-minded people quickly merge from the specifics - only you can minus laughing
                      7. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 February 2021 13: 06
                        +2
                        Quote: clerk
                        Now it is clear to me why you were sent with your proposals - the club of university writers who read books really have nothing to do with the real economy

                        Yeah. All in all, acting financial directors of large (including city-forming) enterprises ... For example, the person who invited me there was the financial director of a St. Petersburg holding, numbering 30 thousand people. He found my ideas interesting then ... laughing
                        Quote: clerk
                        You are our theoretical "stock exchange", when the market sees (and he sees) that the ruble exchange rate is constantly supported by the Central Bank's interventions, the demand for foreign currency begins to grow like an avalanche and the gold reserves begin to melt like spring snow. Of course, they don't write about this in your smart books, but this is the boring truth of life. If you don’t want to believe me, compare the dynamics of the exchange rate and the gold reserves in 2014, approximately from spring (the most striking and close example).

                        Are you out of your mind at all? You reproach me for theorizing, but you yourself cite as an indicator .... the crisis of 2014? When all the stock brokers were laughing at the wheel, looking at the crazy actions of Nabiullina, who managed to make 10 mistakes out of 5 possible? Hmm ...
                        You do not quite understand what you are talking about.
                        Quote: clerk
                        I don’t suggest the summer of 1998, because then you most likely went under the table

                        I was working at that time - at a factory. And the next year he became the head of the planning and economic department :))))
                        Quote: clerk
                        And I strongly suspect that your knowledge of the real sector is the same theoretical - it was not for nothing that you avoided specifics about the plant

                        Well, yes, I'm just a CFO who pulled a couple of city-forming enterprises out of bankruptcy. Well, they had a population of up to 6 people, you think, what a trifle :)))))
                        Whether it is you. Come on, teach me to live on. Laugh hunt
                      8. clerk
                        clerk 5 February 2021 15: 28
                        -2
                        1) The Vasyukin chess players listened to Ostap with filial love. Ostap suffered. He felt a surge of new strength and chess ideas. (c) 2) But I quite understand what I am saying and with whom I am talking laughing Can you voice the main mistakes, in your opinion, that the Central Bank allegedly made in 2014 when regulating the exchange rate? 3) Well, our dear "financial director" - what about the answer to the question - what kind of products does the "plant" you named as an example of the real sector produce? I ask for the third time. 4) Good. To begin with (when answering your other post) I will teach you to ask the right questions.
                      9. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 February 2021 22: 24
                        0
                        Quote: clerk
                        To begin with (when answering your other post) I will teach you to ask the right questions.

                        Great :))) "Note, I did not suggest this!" (with)
                        Quote: clerk
                        Well, our dear "financial director" - what about the answer to the question - what products does the "plant" you named as an example of the real sector produce? I ask for the third time.

                        I don't see any point in discussing this issue now. But as your homework, I give you time to think and choose any direction from the proposed
                        In the part of the food industry - you can talk about dairy, meat canning, or sugar production
                        In terms of mechanical engineering, you can talk about factories for the production of road equipment or caravans. Or compressors, for example.
                        If the former seems too easy for you and the latter is difficult, you can discuss the leather industry. Or, generally speaking, industrial services. For example, seismic exploration.
                        Of course, the real sector is not limited to all of the above, but I have some knowledge in all of the above positions, and I can speak in detail.
                        But before moving on to discuss all this, we will sort out one simple question with you in the comment below. You will be able to answer it clearly - we will continue here
                      10. clerk
                        clerk 6 February 2021 08: 21
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                        Name a plant that since 2008 has been "surviving despite the actions of the state."
                      11. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 February 2021 10: 52
                        +1
                        Quote: clerk
                        Name a plant that since 2008 has been "surviving despite the actions of the state."

                        Almost any of the above industries. Take mechanical engineering, for example, say the production of caravans. Or do you need to name a specific plant? Take CHMZAP.
                      12. clerk
                        clerk 6 February 2021 11: 52
                        0
                        Thanks. Do not consider it a nit-picking - can you tell the INN? I'll see what it breathes.
                      13. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 February 2021 12: 21
                        0
                        Quote: clerk
                        TIN can you tell? I'll see what it breathes.

                        Why? :))))) Are you going to assess the state of the plant according to financial statements? !!! :))))))))))
                        Okay, you asked - I answered TIN 7450003445
                      14. clerk
                        clerk 6 February 2021 13: 24
                        0
                        Thanks. I'll try to take a look this week. For now, explain - how has the policy of the state hindered this office for the last 12 years? If possible - with specifics
                      15. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 February 2021 16: 50
                        0
                        Quote: clerk
                        For now, explain - how has the policy of the state hindered this office for the last 12 years?

                        Let's go, as they say, step by step. I will definitely sign it all for you, but after we finish with a stable ruble exchange rate and Nabiullina. Regardless of how the discussion ends :)
      2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 February 2021 13: 38
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        By the way, "practitioner" You are my homebrew, please comment on the dynamics of the dollar and gold reserves, when the rate was REALLY more or less stable
        In 2004, the dollar exchange rate was 28.81 (annual average)
        In 2007, the dollar exchange rate was 25.58 (average annual
        In January 2004, the amount of gold and foreign exchange reserves was $ 77,1 billion
        In December 2007, the amount of gold and foreign exchange reserves was $ 474 billion.
        Let's explain from the point of view of your "practice"
      3. clerk
        clerk 5 February 2021 15: 31
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        "Explain" can be a person who seeks to understand something. You still have this aspiration in its infancy. Be so kind as to clearly formulate - what exactly of these numbers is not clear to you and ask your question.
      4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 February 2021 22: 47
        0
        Quote: clerk
        "Explain" can be a person who seeks to understand something. You still have this aspiration in its infancy.

        You see, I understand for sure that I am faced with a militant dilettante. But you wanted to get the right questions from me .... laughing

        Excuse me. In order not to complicate entities beyond what is necessary, let's examine the issue of a stable ruble exchange rate and the issue of Nabiullina's mistakes in 2014.
        In response to my phrase
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        If we talk about business claims to the current state of affairs, then it boils down to
        1) The jumping dollar exchange rate. Business does not believe that this is justified and is confident that this could have been avoided

        You answered
        Quote: clerk
        Can. Foreign exchange interventions (which will whet the appetites of speculators and squeeze the gold reserves) or foreign exchange regulation (which will greatly strengthen the ruble (up to about 40 rubles per dollar), but will lower exporters and budget revenues.

        Will you open up? Please give a simple answer - "yes" or "no".
        If - "yes", then you simply are not responsible for your words, and there is nothing more to talk about.
        If - "no", then the second question
        Do you really think that large foreign exchange interventions, ruinous for gold and foreign exchange reserves, are necessary to maintain a stable exchange rate, and there are no other ways?
        If your answer is "No", then I suggest that you list these other methods, and I ask you why you were "ashamed" to indicate them when answering me and why did you reduce everything to currency interventions.
        If - "Yes", then please answer the next question.
        I gave the statistics above, but it's easy for me to repeat
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        In 2004, the dollar exchange rate was 28.81 (annual average)
        In 2007, the dollar exchange rate was 25.58 (average annual
        In January 2004, the amount of gold and foreign exchange reserves was $ 77,1 billion
        In December 2007, the amount of gold and foreign exchange reserves was $ 474 billion.

        Why, in spite of your words about the ruinous foreign exchange interventions necessary to maintain the ruble exchange rate, in the indicated time period (over 4 years) the ruble exchange rate fell by 11,2%, while the gold and foreign exchange reserves not only did not decrease, but also increased more than sixfold?
        Have I formulated my questions clearly enough? :))))))))
        But that's not all. You see, the question I asked you is with a small trick, which you will learn about a little later. In light of this, think WELL before answering the questions about Nabiullina's failures
        I wrote to you
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        When all the stock brokers were laughing at the wheel, looking at the crazy actions of Nabiullina, who managed to make 10 mistakes out of 5 possible?

        You answered
        Quote: clerk
        Can you voice the main mistakes in your opinion, allegedly made by the Central Bank in 2014 when regulating the exchange rate?

        I am answering your question. Yes, of course I can. But - only after you, sir. Please answer a few questions
        In your opinion, did Nabiullina do everything correctly? "Yes or no"?
        If - "yes", then just answer. If - "no", please indicate the mistakes that you think she made.
        Do not be afraid :))) Seeing your level, you can be 99,9% sure that I will name completely different mistakes that you will name. But ... then it will be very difficult for you to explain why what I will write about is not errors :))))))
        And yes, I promise to give you a complete list of Nabiullina's mistakes (or - almost complete, I do not promise that I will remember all of them, but at least the main ones) in 2014. After answering my questions above.

        ZY, Eh, Eugene ... Chesslovo, you shouldn't have started this game of questions. Don't complain now
      5. clerk
        clerk 6 February 2021 08: 34
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        There is nothing to complain about - and not such storytellers were brought to clean water
        ... Quote: clerk
        Can. Foreign exchange interventions (which will whet the appetites of speculators and squeeze the gold reserves) or foreign exchange regulation (which will greatly strengthen the ruble (up to about 40 rubles per dollar), but will lower exporters and budget revenues.
        .
        ... Do you really think that large foreign exchange interventions, ruinous for gold reserves, are necessary to maintain a stable exchange rate, and there are no other ways?
        Now you see the difference between what I wrote (two ways to maintain the exchange rate) and what you attributed to me (only currency interventions). Unfortunately, you do not want to conduct a discussion without such manipulations.
      6. clerk
        clerk 6 February 2021 08: 39
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        ... In 2004, the dollar exchange rate was 28.81 (annual average)
        In 2007, the dollar exchange rate was 25.58 (average annual
        In January 2004, the amount of gold and foreign exchange reserves was $ 77,1 billion
        In December 2007, the amount of gold and foreign exchange reserves was $ 474 billion.

        Why, in spite of your words about the ruinous foreign exchange interventions necessary to maintain the ruble exchange rate, in the indicated time period (over 4 years) the ruble exchange rate fell by 11,2%, while the gold and foreign exchange reserves not only did not decrease, but also increased more than sixfold?
        Have I formulated my questions clearly enough? :))))))))
        ... Now yes. Favorable conditions have emerged - clear and effective currency regulation, rising prices for export hydrocarbons and relatively low government expenses, which allowed the state to buy out a large amount of export earnings
      7. clerk
        clerk 6 February 2021 08: 56
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        ... I am answering your question. Yes, of course I can. But - only after you, sir. Please answer a few questions
        In your opinion, did Nabiullina do everything correctly? "Yes or no"?
        If - "yes", then just answer. If - "no", please indicate the mistakes that you think she made.
        ... To answer this question, you need to know about those tasks, the actions for the solution of which we are going to evaluate. I do not know these tasks. If you know, then voice
      8. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 February 2021 12: 15
        +1
        Quote: clerk
        Now you see the difference between what I wrote (two ways to maintain the exchange rate) and what you attributed to me (only currency interventions)

        Very good, but you have not answered my question.
        You are not reducing everything to foreign exchange intervention, leaving room for some kind of foreign exchange regulation. Perfectly. But I repeat my question
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Do you really think that large foreign exchange interventions, ruinous for gold and foreign exchange reserves, are necessary to maintain a stable exchange rate, and there are no other ways?

        Yes or no? Or are there other ways in which the gold reserves will remain in an acceptable state? Of course you write
        Quote: clerk
        Favorable conditions have emerged - clear and effective currency regulation, rising prices for export hydrocarbons and relatively low government expenses, which allowed the state to buy out a large amount of export earnings

        But this is not a direct answer. Firstly, you have not specified what currency regulation is in your understanding, and what specific measures have led to the stabilization of the exchange rate. Secondly, it is not clear from your answers whether a situation is possible when large foreign exchange interventions are not needed to maintain a stable ruble exchange rate can be provided with other measures.
        Third, you are wrong about low government spending. The question is not whether they are high or low, the question is whether we have a budget deficit or a surplus. In other words, it is not the size of expenses that matters, but the balance between income and expenses.
        Do you agree with this interpretation?
      9. clerk
        clerk 6 February 2021 16: 21
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        ... Very good, but you have not answered my question.
        The answer to your question about theoretically possible measures to maintain the course (well, except for verbal interventions: laughing ) was given before you asked it. Maybe you should admit that in the heat of the argument you forgot about it or didn't notice? This can become that benchmark, after which we can calmly discuss the applicability of certain measures at this stage of economic development (I believe that is exactly what you planned).
      10. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 February 2021 16: 30
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        Quote: clerk
        I believe that the answer to your question about theoretically possible measures (well, except for verbal interventions wink) to maintain the course was given before you asked it. Maybe you should admit that in the heat of the argument you forgot about it or didn't notice?

        I am quite openly ready to admit that I misunderstood you. Something, but I always admit my mistakes. I believed that both of the methods you listed use foreign exchange interventions, or independently
        Quote: clerk
        Currency interventions (which will whet the appetites of speculators and sink the gold reserves)

        or together with other measures
        Quote: clerk
        or foreign exchange regulation (which will greatly strengthen the ruble (up to about 40 rubles per dollar), but will lower exporters and budget revenues.

        Therefore, if you explain exactly what you mean by currency regulation, then I can confirm for sure that I was wrong about your statement
      11. clerk
        clerk 6 February 2021 18: 52
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        What is currency regulation is spelled out in the law of the same name (173-fz) and I see no reason to retell it. If we talk about specific and PMSM measures that were most effective in their time (they have been canceled long ago), these are the mandatory sale of part of the export foreign exchange earnings and the mandatory preliminary deposit of rubles when buying foreign currency by lawyers and individual entrepreneurs. PS And I would like to return to the assessment of the Central Bank's activities in the foreign exchange market in 2014 - Do you know the tasks that the Central Bank faced then?
      12. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 February 2021 11: 37
        0
        Quote: clerk
        What is currency regulation is spelled out in the law of the same name (173-fz) and I see no reason to retell it.

        Very good.
        Quote: clerk
        If we talk about specific and PMSM measures that were most effective in their time (they have long been canceled), these are the obligatory sale of part of the export foreign exchange earnings and the obligatory preliminary deposit of rubles when buying foreign currency by lawyers and individual entrepreneurs.

        Eugene, you wrote
        Quote: clerk
        or foreign exchange regulation (which will greatly strengthen the ruble (up to about 40 rubles per dollar), but will lower exporters and budget revenues.

        Please explain how the mandatory sale of part of the foreign exchange earnings and the preliminary deposit of rubles should greatly strengthen the ruble and lower the income of exporters.
        The fact is that exporting companies, including oil and gas production, in any case receive profits in foreign currency, but incur expenses in rubles. Therefore, one way or another, they will still sell part of the foreign exchange earnings. The meaning of the mandatory sale of currency is to make the process of selling the currency more even throughout the year in order to eliminate unnecessary peaks / falls and the need for regulator intervention. And you can do the same through interventions, by and large in terms of the volume of sales / purchases of currency by year for the Central Bank, then it will work out for that.
        Advance deposit ... I don't see at all how it might affect the course. Perhaps you mean the absence of "short" speculations, when it is possible to buy and sell without capital during the current period? Well, yes, this will to some extent limit the activity of speculators, but precisely that to some extent, nothing more.
        And finally, the most interesting thing. How would you like to understand your statement in light of the extensive interventions of the Central Bank in the period 2004-2007? :))))))
      13. clerk
        clerk 7 February 2021 12: 38
        +1
        ... how the mandatory sale of part of the foreign exchange earnings and the preliminary deposit of rubles should greatly strengthen the ruble and lower the income of exporters
        ... Well, you yourself wrote - this will reduce the surges and, as a result, speculative, rush and unsecured demand. As they say now, it will smooth out volatility (Ugh,). In this situation, the exchange rate will return to the balance of real supply and demand and will be where it should be according to PPP with a small margin - around 40 rubles per dollar. Despite the fact that the budget of last year was drawn up at the rate of 65,7 rubles per dollar. In addition to problems with a sharp fall in budget revenues, if the dollar / ruble exchange rate is reduced and kept at a low level (40 + - rubles / dollar) (who wanted to reduce taxes there?), This will lead to a sharp increase in imports and, accordingly, large problems with the sale of a domestic manufacturer. Against this background, the current screams about the failure of the import substitution policy will seem outrageous praise. And you shouldn't think that speculation without a captain is a trifle. I will not give a link now, but from memory, even on world stock exchanges, the volume of transactions without the delivery of the underlying asset is several times larger than the real ones.
      14. clerk
        clerk 7 February 2021 12: 47
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        ... And finally, the most interesting thing. How do you order to understand your statement in the light of the extensive interventions of the Central Bank in the period 2004-2007? :))))))
        Not understood. Decipher your thought.
      15. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 February 2021 17: 36
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        Quote: clerk
        Well, you yourself wrote - this will reduce the surges and, as a result, speculative, rush and unsecured demand. As they say now, it will smooth out volatility

        Evgeny, all of this is not a factor in the long-term stabilization of the ruble. Roughly speaking, all this makes it possible to smooth out exchange rate fluctuations relative to average values ​​- and nothing more. I do not dispute that these are good and useful instruments and they played a role, but they did not determine the ruble's exchange rate against the dollar and its stability.
        Quote: clerk
        In this situation, the exchange rate will return to the balance of real supply and demand and will be where it should be according to PPP with a small margin - around 40 rubles per dollar. Given that last year's budget was drawn up at the rate of 65,7 rubles per dollar. In addition to problems with a sharp fall in budget revenues, if the dollar / ruble exchange rate is reduced and kept at a low level (40 + - rubles / dollar) (who wanted to reduce taxes there?), This will lead to a sharp increase in imports and, accordingly, large problems with the sale of a domestic manufacturer.

        I think I understand your point. You think that the ruble is now undervalued, and the application of the "soft" measures you listed above will lead to the strengthening of the ruble to about 40 rubles / dollar, which, in turn, will cause problems for the budget and will lead to an increase in imports. If I understood you correctly, I am ready to answer why this point of view is incorrect. Did I understand you correctly?
  18. clerk
    clerk 6 February 2021 16: 32
    0
    ... Firstly, you have not specified what currency regulation is in your understanding, and what specific measures have led to the stabilization of the exchange rate.
    These are legislative and administrative restrictions on foreign exchange transactions, which were in effect including the first 12-15 years of Putin's rule, including the premiership. If you are the one you position yourself to be, then at least indirectly and in general terms, you could not have known about them at all.
  19. clerk
    clerk 6 February 2021 16: 38
    0
    ... Third, you are wrong about low government spending. The question is not whether they are high or low, the question is whether we have a budget deficit or a surplus. In other words, it is not the size of expenses that matters, but the balance between income and expenses. Do you agree with this interpretation?
    ... In this case, we are both talking in different words about the same thing. Budget surplus due to initially low expenses in 2004 allowed to increase the gold and foreign exchange reserves in 4 years due to the growth of the exchange rate. At the same time, budget expenditures for 4 years have grown by more than 2,3 times.
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 4 February 2021 13: 01
    -2
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Now many are dissatisfied with Putin, not only in the real sector of the economy, but also, oddly enough, in law enforcement agencies, and in many other places

    There are especially many dissatisfied here, on the site, who, apart from words like "... tired, go away ...", have no other reasons.
    There are no real candidates for the post of head of state. And not visible. Since none of the "applicants", as a rule, have any experience in administrative work, nor experience in serving in government agencies or in law enforcement agencies. As a rule, these are characters from the media space. And VO is no exception.
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    But an attempt to create a real opposition will be immediately stopped.

    Don't confuse opportunism with chauvinism ....
    No civilized country will allow anyone to form an opposition that stands on the platform of overthrowing the current government by any means. Especially if these oppositionists only know one mantra "Go away!"
    Do you want a new guarantor of the Constitution? Come to the polls and vote. But there is no need to speak in advance about dishonest elections, wrong counting, etc. This is all - screams in favor of the "poor" - liberals and pseudo-patriots, disguised as statists, and dreaming of the USSR 2.0. Ordinary dialectics suggests that it is impossible to return the blessed Soviet times. But the next revolution will finally bury both the country and civilization. Since the only alternative in the country is national fascism in its purest form. How it happened in Ukraine.
    But you, Internet patriots, are itching to. It itches and itches ...
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 February 2021 13: 39
      +6
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      There are especially many dissatisfied here, on the site, who, apart from words like "... tired, go away ...", have no other reasons.

      There are other reasons, and they were repeatedly listed on the same VO
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      There are no real candidates for the post of head of state.

      They are in bulk, but they are not media faces. For example, in 1998 you did not know who Putin was. And he turned out to be the president much better than the previous one (Yeltsin). It's the same today.
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      Don't confuse opportunism with chauvinism ....

      And let us not rush with words you do not understand.
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      No civilized country will allow anyone to form an opposition that stands on the platform of overthrowing the current government by any means.

      You distorted it, because I was talking about something else. I said that today the real opposition will have one, there are NO legal ways to challenge Putin's power
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      Do you want a new guarantor of the Constitution? Come to the polls and vote. But there is no need to speak in advance about dishonest elections, wrong counting, etc. This is all - screams in favor of the "poor"

      You see, unlike you, I know very well how the elections REALLY go. From the persons directly organizing them. And some people participating in them. Therefore, do not tell me about the cries for the poor.
      And yourself - believe what you want, we have freedom of religion
      1. clerk
        clerk 4 February 2021 16: 42
        -1
        For example, in 1998 you did not know who Putin was. And he turned out to be the president much better than the previous one (Yeltsin). It's the same today.
        It’s not the same. It does not matter whether we knew about Putin or not in 1998 - it is important that he knew about him, the one who offered him to us. Therefore, the question arises - does anyone from the sphere of big politics or public administration know your "unknown candidates" in general - what they are, how they showed themselves, how did they recommend?
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 February 2021 06: 38
          +5
          Quote: clerk
          It’s not the same. It does not matter whether we knew about Putin or not in 1998 - it is important that he knew about him, the one who offered him to us.

          So he knows now. But he won't.
          1. clerk
            clerk 5 February 2021 10: 13
            -3
            Knows, but will not offer; they want but are afraid; they are, but I will not name them; wants to join the opposition, but without a program; the real sector is "this is a factory"; I know. from the people who organized the elections, and so on and so forth. Sorry, but this is already a vivid sign of a person not just out of topic, but only puffing out his cheeks in vain.
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 February 2021 13: 17
              +3
              Quote: clerk
              Sorry, but this is already a vivid sign of a person not just off topic, but only puffing out his cheeks in vain.

              Sorry, but this is just a clear sign of a person who does not fit into your pink "reality", because he lives with the current reality.
              You were given a simple example - Putin. Whom neither you nor I KNEW until he became president, but who turned out to be a president is better than the previous one. And what could you answer? "Well, does anyone know?" And you continue to demand a surname from me. As I already said, the concept of "logic" does not work for you. You have a conditioned reflex to an external stimulus. They said that Putin is not an ideal president - you will demand the name of someone who would be better than him. That this requirement is absurd in the light of my argumentation, you are unable to understand.
              And if you had carried you back to that time, 1999, you would have shouted foaming at the mouth, "What kind of Putin is ?! I don't know any Putin! Yeltsin is our everything, if you take him out, all of Russia will collapse at once!"
              And they would be wrong. As, in fact, now.
              1. clerk
                clerk 5 February 2021 16: 08
                -4
                It's not about me and not about reality. The fact is that you twist and run away from questions. We agreed that neither Putin in 1998 nor your "unknown contenders" are now known to the Shirnarmass. Good. But by 1998, Putin had been a major federal official for several years and the Kremlin knew him and Putin's surname was not secret for the media .. About your "unknown candidates" there is only your "he knows them, but will not appoint" and "I will not tell you their names." ... That is, in fact, from you only ambiguous hints - the essence of idle chatter. And so on any issues discussed. They were right about you - you only sow confusion in the minds, but do not answer for words or questions.
              2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 February 2021 22: 11
                +2
                Quote: clerk
                But by 1998 Putin was a major federal official for several years and the Kremlin knew him and Putin's surname was not secret for the media .. About your "unknown candidates" there is only your "he knows them, but will not appoint" and "I will not tell you their names." ...

                Not "I will not say", but "I do not know." In this respect, I am no different from you. Such things are not reported to me, and I do not enter those circles. But I know that there are such people. Russia is large, and it is absurd to think that there is no person in all of Russia who could do the job of the president better than Putin. Who copes with her at best a C. With a minus.
                There is a person whom I know, and who could, under certain conditions, grow to the level of the President of the Russian Federation. Not the fact that it will grow, but the potential is there. Well, I'll tell you his last name - it's no use. You don't know this person anyway. Mavrin A.N.
                Quote: clerk
                That is, in fact, from you only ambiguous hints - the essence of idle chatter. And so on any issues discussed.

                My dear, here we are now going to take one question and analyze it. We'll see who is talking in vain
              3. clerk
                clerk 6 February 2021 09: 13
                -1
                ... There is a person whom I know, and who could, under certain conditions, grow to the level of the President of the Russian Federation. It is not a fact that it will grow, but the potential is there. Well, I'll tell you his last name - it's good for you. You don't know this person anyway. Mavrin A.N.
                ... I do not know. But you can briefly describe his "combat and work path" and tell - what exactly he (or you)))) is so good. By the way, Putin appoints a lot of young and unfamiliar people to big positions. Also a kind of smotrin
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 4 February 2021 20: 23
    -1
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    You see, unlike you, I know very well how the elections REALLY go. From the persons directly organizing them. And some of the persons participating in them

    Yes, you are a great connoisseur. Everything and everyone.
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    You distorted it, because I was talking about something else. I said that today the real opposition will have one, there are NO legal ways to challenge Putin's power

    Am I twisting it?
    This message is clearly visible in the post. This is exactly how it reads.
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    There are no real candidates for the post of head of state.

    They are in bulk, but they are not media faces

    Is it Bulk in bulk? wassat
    There is not a single sane politician with the necessary experience of working in government agencies. From the word "in general". And as for the siloviki, I am keeping quiet. If there are dissatisfied people there, it is only that the President is too soft towards the adversaries of all brands, in their opinion.
    The problem is that you, and others like you, flourishing on this site, are too naive in their thoughts about the need to change the government. And the definition of "naive" is the best and most acceptable compliment to the irreconcilable.
    You are not calling against the authorities, not against changing the country's leadership. You are wreaking havoc in the minds. In their own and others. You, as professional revolutionaries, are ready to destroy "... to the ground, and then ...".
    The point is that there will be no "then". Since the slightest breakdown of the existing system (there are no sinless systems, there is no) will instantly bring down not only the vertical of power, but the entire country, starting with the economy.
    The world is already teetering on the brink of war - it needs someone who will pay the EXPENSES for the upcoming redistribution of the world. And this SOMEONE will be the country of Russia, with its market, industry, and mineral reserves ...
    The story of the "Berlin patient" is a clear proof of this. China will emerge from a similar situation. Lose a lot in terms of economy and income. And our country will not endure the next "leap to the side". Today's Russia is not the USSR, with its powerful economy and the Soviet people ready to make sacrifices. The people are now demanding bread and circuses for the state price. And there is no one to work for certificates. And calls for a change of course and the government that adheres to it is a direct path to self-destruction.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 February 2021 06: 41
      +3
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      Yes, you are a great connoisseur. Everything and everyone.

      it just so happened. Envy silently :)
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      This message is clearly visible in the post. This is exactly how it reads.

      If a man, looking at a brick, thinks about women, then this is definitely not a brick problem.
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      There is not a single sane politician with the necessary experience of working in government agencies. From the word "in general".

      If you don't know them, then no. Well, well :))) I gave you Putin as an example. You didn't know him.
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      The point is that there will be no "then". Since the slightest breakdown of the existing system (there are no sinless systems, there is no) will instantly bring down not only the vertical of power, but the entire country, starting with the economy.

      Complete nonsense. All over the world, some people in power replace others, and nothing falls. But with us - it must definitely fall.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 5 February 2021 18: 26
        -1
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        If you don't know them, then no. Oh well:))

        Have the Americans learned with the Europeans? These are the ones who always make excuses "We know, but we won't show you."
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        it just so happened. Envy silently :)

        To envy the sire and the poor? Not my profile ...
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Complete nonsense. All over the world, some people in power replace others, and nothing falls. But with us - it must definitely fall.

        Do you really see nothing at all but "bad" Putin? Ukrainian syndrome? Did you go to the doctor?
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 4 February 2021 19: 30
    +2
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    There are especially many dissatisfied here, on the site, who, apart from words like "... tired, go away ...", have no other reasons.

    Come on ... Prices go up, wages go down. For such a "prestigious" job as a taxi driver, not everyone has a car.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 4 February 2021 19: 57
      -4
      Quote: Tank Hard
      Come on ... Prices go up, wages go down. For such a "prestigious" job as a taxi driver, not everyone has a car

      The global trend, however ...
      And I don't remember those glorious times when it was the other way around.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 4 February 2021 20: 00
        +2
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        A worldwide trend, however.

        Duc and the people are the same as 1000 years ago. The consumer is mostly. Desires to eat and have plenty of comfortable things. But he does not like to forgive those who promise, but do not keep their promises. request
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  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 4 February 2021 10: 48
    +5
    Everything about Krastoshevsky is written correctly and correctly. A disgusting act without a relative political preference.
    But here's to bind an employee federal TV channel to Navalny and Putin's palace, oh, forgive Rottenberg, and even at the same time saying that the author of the article is "not a fan of Putin," this means acting in the same way as Krastoshevsky did. Just a minor manipulation. Not pretty. And most importantly, again the effect will be the opposite.
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  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 4 February 2021 10: 52
    +3
    such jackals .. to the wall it is necessary .. even during life like this! and if indeed from the channel .. so it is possible for both Faberge and him to squeeze!
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  • Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 4 February 2021 11: 13
    +2
    Well, I don't even want to comment, a normal, adequate person who lives in harmony with conscience knows perfectly well that they say either good or nothing about the deceased! Krastoshevsky and the public similar to him, to put it mildly, not people, just creatures !!!
  • The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 4 February 2021 11: 17
    -3
    And Krastoshevsky is not alone. All the light-faced Warriors of Light from the company of Navalny's supporters suddenly uncovered far from human faces


    You, in general, are also Krastoshevsky.
  • Valter1364
    Valter1364 4 February 2021 11: 25
    +1
    That's right, Roman! Was not so long ago in the forest. Saw a couple of jackals. Pretty cute creatures. It is clear that this is a metaphor, but I would not compare him with a jackal. This person does not even deserve comparisons.
  • north 2
    north 2 4 February 2021 11: 27
    +2
    Of course, if after the return of Crimea to Russia and the feat of Donbass, the Russian Spring and the prospect of Novorossia had not been ruined, then today such Krastoshevskys only whined wherever into the microphone of Radio Liberty from outside Russia. They themselves would have fled from such a new reviving Russia, so then in 2014 there was a strong rise of patriotism in Russia and in the Russian World as a whole. But Crimea returned, and the rest of the revival of the new Empire was strangled. And since Russia cannot exist in a non-empire status, the enemies of Russia will now give up all their forces in order to drive people into their heads that the Russians cannot have any Motherland, but there is only a place of birth. So what else is the Empire of Russia for you, what else is the Russian World for you - you must not only be without the Motherland in the status of the Empire, but you must be without the Russian World as a statute of Russia's spirituality. And of course, from here attacks on Lanovoy, as the spokesman for the soul of the Russian World and as the embodiment of the defender of the Motherland-on the Soviet officer.
    Only, the greatest composers and poets who created immortal songs were born in the USSR and created their creations, the greatest directors and actors in the USSR created their creations. But for thirty years after the Red Empire of the USSR was destroyed, at the microphone on the stage, to the soundtrack, only the singing cowards with screams open their mouths ... you kiss me everywhere I'm eighteen already .., and from the screens only films about cops and bandits yes more about cultural fascists. And this is a consequence of the fact that the destruction of the USSR should deprive the Russian World of spirituality and true heroes and authors. Do you think that now who is not able to write, like Yan Frenkel and Inna Goff, the great song "Russian Field"? Or who wouldn't be able to create a film like "The Officers" with actors like Lanovoy and Yumatov? And therefore they are not capable of corroding the spiritual state of the Russian World, as the main component of the Russian Empire. And Russia cannot exist in a non-imperial state. That is why its enemies tear and throw from virtually all bodies. channels, if only the Empire of Russia in any form was not revived and that the Russian spirit was destroyed.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 4 February 2021 12: 13
    +3
    Quote: 2 level advisor
    Why plant, again "hero-martyr" to do, and he will not be corrected? kick out with a "white" ticket from the TV .. let's see what in life, except how to rinse his tongue ..

    If everything is exactly like that, such dodiks should first of all be punished with a ruble. Big ruble. For them, this is worse than general contempt. Although on the quiche, they would probably cut the thread quickly. Well, they are apparently no stranger to this sense.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 4 February 2021 12: 47
    +2
    Maybe it's a petty envy. Maybe an open rejection of the roles of Vasily Lanovoy. Komsomolets, a Soviet officer. And just an honest Man.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 4 February 2021 12: 51
      +1
      Quote: nikvic46
      Maybe it's a petty envy. Maybe an open rejection of the roles of Vasily Lanovoy. Komsomolets, a Soviet officer. And just an honest Man.

      Here more often "Baba Yaga is against"
  • seacap
    seacap 4 February 2021 12: 52
    +4
    So if the central channels in their fragments of programs between endless advertising of Viagra and pads are actively "debunking" the great artists and distinguished people of the country. Especially recklessly zealous to maniacal dancing on coffins and necrophilia "second-hand", smelling and associated with a garbage dump and a cemetery, always eking out Malakhov, and then a fresh corpse was brought up. The squalor and immorality of our advertising TV (what are the big doubts, especially when looking at their interested, hysterical experiences and every minute reports during the elections of the overseas president), his deceit and incompetence of programs in which there is no news, about snow in winter in Siberia and oh, horror, it turns out that in January there are frosts in Chukotka, mixed with psychosis "horror, horror, we will all die tomorrow", all this from a powerful tool of the media and education, propaganda, turned into a fetid cesspool, where one negative and a stream of lies emanate from the screens and paid performances in the form of various so-called. shows in the form of inserts between endless advertisements, in which the speakers already have difficulty expressing themselves in their native language, replacing Russian words with foreign ones. etc. All this is under the strict control of the New People and the boyar class, all this squalor shows the level of their intelligence, as well as the attitude and degree of contempt for people, for us, slaves, and so it will come down.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 4 February 2021 13: 41
      +4
      Quote: seacap
      where one negative and a stream of lies emanate from the screens

      Worse, watching TV is like letting demons into your home.
      What to do? Oh, don't watch anything on TV and don't turn it on.
  • Captan78
    Captan78 4 February 2021 14: 08
    +4
    Vysotsky had lines ... They chew hyenas and cowards and brave men without any special tricks, but they do not stain the names of the dead - this is the work of people. Therefore, I think this creature is not even worthy of comparison with a jackal or a hyena ...
  • Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 5 February 2021 07: 54
    +3
    Hmm, what a disgusting type, and after all he will yell that he is a victim of the regime and he was hounded.
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 5 February 2021 10: 50
    +3
    How disgusting all these syavki, stinking dogs from "high culture", I know LANOVO, but I don't know Krastoshevsky. Here, the CITIZENS of RUSSIA are sure for sure 95% know LANOVO, and where did this mediocre disgrace come from?
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    1. Mona kisa
      Mona kisa 5 February 2021 12: 32
      +1
      "Wow, next to Putin BP walked on the march… The crime of the century, there is nothing to say!
      Yes, I am not a fan or even a supporter of Putin. However, you need to know when to stop. A great artist has the right be friends with anyone."
      © Roman Skomorokhov

      at the BP procession - this is Skomorokhov about the Immortal Regiment procession
      be friends with anyone - This is a novel about the President of Russia V.V. Putin. The implication is - to be friends with "horrible", even with bad people.
      1. seacap
        seacap 6 February 2021 11: 22
        +1
        There were still millions and they too ,,,?
  • Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 5 February 2021 12: 28
    +2
    Vasily Lanovoy only for one role in the film Officers should be erected. And Krastoshevsky, except perhaps an aspen stake in the grave.
  • Alexfly
    Alexfly 5 February 2021 17: 50
    +1
    Who is Krastashevsky? I don't know .... Upstart for an hour, immoral ignoramus? Ashes from a smoked cigarette butt? But no more ... A person who calls for democratic values, in fact a bazaar woman ... In short, Mousieu's bad manners ... Stand up against the wall, you obscure the rays of light of the departed talent with your amorphous figure ...
    1. seacap
      seacap 6 February 2021 11: 28
      +1
      And who is he in general? He himself has created such masterpieces, or maybe something significant and great for our civilization, he at least possesses some abilities, he did at least something with his own hands or head, what he earns on a life? Every insignificant wants at the expense of the greats to be noticed, because. he himself is not capable of anything, and ambitions are higher than the top, he is not worth a minute of attention.
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 6 February 2021 18: 44
      0
      Upstart for an hour, immoral ignoramus? Ashes from a smoked cigarette butt? But nothing more ...
      duels were canceled, reptiles and hamlo to beat in the face - forbidden, divorced like cockroaches !!!
      A person calling for democratic values, in fact, a bazaar woman.
      the bazaar has more culture ..., but here it is, the biomass is hype, ugh, petty nasty !!!
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  • Intruder
    Intruder 6 February 2021 18: 37
    0
    promised to "go all the way" and "break life"
    and ..., barked and jumped sad , it is evident that he was scared that in the dark entrance he was already: "life will be broken, together with the facial bones ..." no....
  • riwas
    riwas 9 February 2021 08: 39
    +1
    I'm very sorry for Lanovoy.
    This latent behavior of the coronavirus in elderly people (with weak immunity) was described back in the summer of 2020 - a mild course of the disease, and then rapid deterioration and death.
    But could he have been saved?
    You can, if at the first signs of the disease you immediately begin to intensively treat. For example, how Trump was immediately and intensively treated (a cocktail of antibodies, remdesiver, etc.).
  • REZMovec
    REZMovec 10 February 2021 21: 34
    +1
    Quote: lexus
    Indulging the terror and calling for reprisals against the dissenters, their leaders and hangers-on, without realizing it, thoughtlessly signed in agreement with reciprocal cruelty.

    Flag of the Great Country - USSR, remove it from the avatrak. You are not a comrade to the Soviet people. Bulk you ...